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November 5, 2025 | 29:24

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Sekulow | Sekulow - Evidence For Brennan Prosecution | November 5, 2025

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- welcome to "sekulow".
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We got a packed show today.
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Jordan sekulow in studio is along with will haynes.
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Who is here with me as well?
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Executive producer here at sekulow.
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Hannah, i'm looking right now
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As the construction continues on the white house.
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People are freaking out well.
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- not happy.
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- they're freaking out over a facade being taken down
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Of a part of the building
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That needed some love to begin with.
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- not original either. - yeah.
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And that's why...
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Look, i feel like the most pretentious person ever,
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'cause i've started commenting on some of my friends,
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Like, look at the destruction.
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I was like, you haven't
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Spent a lot of time at the white house.
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The white house needs some love.
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- yeah. - we've spent some time there.
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And there are certain nooks
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And crannies that need a little dusting.
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And there's some areas, and by the way,
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The idea - they could be used better.
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- of having a ballroom with,
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If anyone's ever attended one
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Of the christmas parties or anything,
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- they need it. - they're tight,
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They're uncomfortable, they're awkward.
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They're, honestly,
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I would put verging on unsafe for the president
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Because of the way you have to sometimes do the photo lines
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And things like that.
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Weird turns and corners. it is a odd situation.
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So, they need it.
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Now, again, i'm not here like defending a ballroom.
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I don't really care one way or the other.
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- dollars for it either.
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- [logan] i didn't know that.
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- they were able to raise private funds.
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- that's right. yeah.
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Big companies have decided - yeah.
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- to switch in as well. - this was not the topic
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Of the day.
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It just showed up on tv. - i will talk about it
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In a couple segments.
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- it just showed up on the tv
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And i can't help but notice it, but okay, will.
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- break down what we're talking about here.
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- so, a letter went out from the chairman
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Of the judiciary committee, jim jordan,
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Referring the former cia director under president obama,
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John brennan, for criminal prosecution.
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It's addressed to attorney general pam bondi.
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And it starts off with about referring significant evidence
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That former director of central intelligence, john brennan,
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Knowingly made false statements
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During his transcribed interview
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Before the committee on the judiciary on may 11th, 2023,
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Goes on to say that under 18 usc 1001,
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A witness commits a crime if he knowingly
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And willfully makes any materially false statement
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Or representation with respect to any investigation
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Or review conducted pursuant
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To the authority of any committee of the congress.
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And then, goes on to lay out in six pages very explicitly
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The statements in the transcribed interviews.
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Now, these weren't- - they're accusations.
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- these weren't before a camera in a committee room.
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These were transcribed interviews,
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Much more serious type setting.
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- yeah. - it's not a time
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When you see members of congress grandstanding,
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Trying to use their five minutes
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To get a soundbite - yeah.
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- for their campaign.
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These are when they're doing real investigative work
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And when they are alleging he lied.
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And it's not just we think he lied because we disagree.
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- no, no, no. - it actually goes on to show,
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And we'll lay this all out in the next segment,
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That there were things even he memorialized
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Within the cia that has now been declassified
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And released by people like tulsi gabbard
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- yeah. - and john ratcliffe that show
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That he did the opposite and told congress the other.
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- yeah, i mean,
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They were using their intelligence community assessments
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And they were using information from the steele dossier.
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And while they were testifying
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About the intelligence community assessment
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That they signed their name to,
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They said they had never seen the steele dossier,
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Even though it is being utilized in the actual document
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They submitted. - yeah. who has-
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- it said russia was,
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Trump was russia's preferred candidate.
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All the stuff out of the dossier.
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So, even unlike comey, this is multiple times
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Before congress in different ways
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That john brennan, he'd say mislead.
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The best way he'd say is misleading.
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I think it's absolute lying
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Because he's the cia director.
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He knows everything.
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- yeah, at least worth looking into.
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- the big headline,
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A lot of people are just tuning in on youtube.
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And a lot of you do, by the way, watch on youtube.
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There's over 1,100,
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1,200 that watch in the first few seconds that join us.
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And then, it always adds and grows and grows.
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And then, by the end of the day,
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Hundreds of thousands of people
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Have watched the show across all the different platforms.
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And then, of course, everyone who's on terrestrial radio.
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But i do say,
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I want a special thank you to our youtube audience.
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It's growing and growing.
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There's over 531,000 subscribers
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On our youtube channel alone.
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That's great.
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It's great for alternative media, for independent media.
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We have no corporate overlords,
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No one telling us what we can or can't say.
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That is always great.
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And it's great to have audiences that are building,
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That are getting to be the size
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Or bigger than even some of the mainstream media platforms.
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So, i wanna thank all of you who've done it.
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If you haven't subscribed, please do it today.
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It really helps out a lot and costs you nothing.
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That being said, let's move on to our topic.
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Will, of course, we were talking about that the,
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The best way to describe it,
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I think we need to sort of break it down,
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Because the headline, again, says a lot,
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Which is jim jordan.
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Jim jordan is currently, we say chairman jim jordan,
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- right, right. - referring to him as chairman
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Of judiciary. - the house judiciary
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Committees. - right.
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So, let's just break it down.
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- so, effectively, anytime congress,
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In the course of their investigations
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Into various oversight matters,
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If they come across something that appears criminal,
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The congress can't prosecute someone.
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They're the legislative branch.
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But they can refer the evidence of crimes
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That they may discover in the process
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Of their constitutionally mandated oversight
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To the department of justice,
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And say, here's the evidence we found.
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You can do with it
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What you will. - it's very common.
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We've seen this before, - right.
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- sometimes with good results, sometimes with no results.
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- you even see that letitia james,
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Who recently was indicted for mortgage fraud,
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Alleged mortgage fraud, that came as a review
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Within some of the agencies that handle mortgages.
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- yeah. - they looked at it
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And saw this and it raised eyebrows,
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And they referred it to the department of justice,
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Which then decided to act on it.
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So, there's precedent for even in recent history,
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This is something that happens,
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That when congress discovers evidence of a crime,
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They tell the doj about it.
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And what we found here is that john brennan,
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Who repeatedly over the course of years,
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Told congress that the cia
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Was opposed to including the steele dossier.
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They didn't use the steele dossier.
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They didn't like the steele dossier.
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That according to the internal documentation
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At the cia was demonstrably false.
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So, what the director was telling the judiciary committee
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As they're conducting oversight is opposite of the truth.
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That's lying before congress.
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It is misrepresenting the facts.
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And that is a crime under 18 usc section 1001.
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And, jordan, when you look at this, there's things like this
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Where john brennan told chairman jordan himself
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- yeah. - in this interview in 2023,
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When chairman jordan asked,
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"who'd you learn about - yeah.
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- the steele dossier from,"
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He says, "i learned about it from the fbi."
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But then, he was the one in this answer,
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Not just saying, "i learned about it from the fbi,
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Let's move on," said,
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"the cia was very much opposed to having any reference
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Or inclusion of the steele dossier
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In the intelligence community assessment.
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That is that 2017 document
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That president obama ordered at the end of his term
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- [jordan] right before donald trump came and-
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- right after president trump was elected.
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- right. - this is what kickstarted
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All the investigations
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And eventually the special counsel
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That ended up turning up nothing
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But tried to undermine the presidency of president trump.
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- and now, we have the memorandums too.
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And for instance, so brennan says this to jordan,
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"but then according to a cia memo
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Declassified by the trump administration,
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When two cia mission center leaders confronted brennan
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With quote, specific flaws in the dossier,
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Trying to do the right thing,
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As we said so many of them were,
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Brennan disregarded their concerns,
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Quote, appearing more swayed
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By the dossier's general conformity with existing theories
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Than by legitimate trade crafts concerns.
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And he formalized his position in writing,
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Stating that, 'my bottom line is that i believe
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That the information warrants inclusion in the report.'"
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So, he went to jim jordan said,
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"the cia does not believe it should be in the report."
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Then, he tells his cia colleagues who had questions
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About whether or not it should be because they found flaws.
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No, it absolutely should be there.
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The guy, that's lie number two.
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- well, and, jordan, even to bring that up,
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Normally, you don't get something
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When there's this back and forth
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Of whistleblowers raising allegations
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Or telling congress the things
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As the course of the investigation.
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You don't have the principle that memorialized his position.
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- [jordan] they were fighting, obviously.
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- he actually put it in writing
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That he was the one that believed it should be included.
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And we know that even when he was questioned
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About this has a lot of flaws,
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This doesn't meet our standards,
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This is where that famous line of,
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Yes, but doesn't it ring true?
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- yeah, it sounds right. - so, he was going
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On vibes here - feels good.
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- because at the end of the day,
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President obama had tasked them
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With rewriting the narrative
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- [logan] you like the cia
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Coming on vibes. - ahead of it.
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And the cia went on vibes.
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The director here, maybe not the agents,
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A lot of them were pushing back,
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But he overruled their concerns
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And then memorialized it, but yet lied to congress
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Because he didn't want to be the one
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That started the entire thing.
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- i like this call coming in.
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Bill, go ahead.
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- [bill] yeah, thanks a lot for taking my call.
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First of all, i'd like to comment on the fact
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That i enjoy how the mainstream media
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Is covering the ballroom work. - yes.
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- [bill] then, to my question, this evidence about brennan,
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Where he's writing, it also mentions comey in that.
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Do you think that could also be used against comey
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In this business with him? - i mean, listen,
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When you have other individuals
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Who are very closely working together
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And you've already issued indictment,
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There can always be superseding indictments.
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That is that over the course of our investigation,
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We found this initial criminal,
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What we believe is the department
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Of justice initial criminal conduct,
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Which we have went before the grand jury,
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Got the indictments.
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And over the course of that investigation,
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Have found more illegal activity.
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So that there is that ability
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At a certain point as these are light,
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These are kind of like the two most high profile names
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That were very connected
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Within that intelligence law enforcement world,
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Kind of acting as if they were above the law,
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Or in their case, they were the law.
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- well, and, jordan,
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I think we should play this for people as well,
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Because back in 2017, now this statement
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Would be outside the statute of limitations,
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But this was trey gowdy questioning brennan
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About the steele dossier's inclusion
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Back during the entire scenario of the steele dossier
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And the special counsel's investigation.
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But he kept the same line.
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So, he was even lying to congress about this back in 2017.
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We have audio of that
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Because this one was a public hearing,
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Unlike the ones that are more serious
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That are within the statute of limitations.
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But we should go ahead and play this
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Because it's the same line.
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He was consistent with his lies
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That is being alleged here by the judiciary committee.
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Let's go ahead and roll byte one.
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- did the cia rely on it?
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- no.
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- why not?
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- because we didn't, it wasn't part of the corpus
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Of intelligence information that we had.
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It was not in any way used as a basis
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For the intelligence community assessment that was done.
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It was not.
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- we know that that's not true,
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Just even that it was not in any way used
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As a basis for the ica, because it was the annex.
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All the information in the classified annex
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That we just recently got was steele dossier information.
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- yes. - so, even that statement
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Right there, while outside the statute of limitations,
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But just completely the lying. - the cia had to...
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They relied on it because they used it as their source.
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So, you read the intelligence community assessment
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And one of their main sources
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Are pieces of the steele dossier.
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So, of course, you relied on it as, and so there's no way,
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Because there's so much information about brennan out here,
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There's no way he could say,
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"i was just the director and i was kind of misinformed."
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His hands were all over this, like you said, memos.
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For cia directors, he liked to formalize all these memos
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For history's sake. - there's a lot of data,
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A lot of information.
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You could just
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Use searchable information. - memos that directly conflict
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With testimony he gave under oath,
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Which means when they conflict like that
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And you don't go and correct it
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As immediately like you misspoke,
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It is a crime to testify and lie to congress.
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- and, jordan, to that point as well,
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He doesn't have the cover of saying,
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"i didn't really know about this one."
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The directive on a new ica came from the white house
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To the members of the intelligence community,
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The principles. - the wanted the rewrite.
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- they wanted the rewrite. (will drowns out logan)
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- what's the benefit on the way out of office?
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What's the benefit
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Of doing this for him? - trash donald trump.
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The only reason he won is because of russia.
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- it was that insurance policy
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That peter strzok talked about.
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It was then to- - to open up all-
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- [logan] even if it was over.
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- and then, open up
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All the investigations, - gotcha.
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- did donald trump win
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Because of russia propaganda even though it was over
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So they could try and smear him,
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Which they tried to do for all four years.
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- it can't just be a job for any of these people.
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It's gotta be some vindictive business operation
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That's beyond like, all right,
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We're done now. - now, you remember
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What chuck schumer said?
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If trump were to go after the intelligence community,
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They have six ways from sunday to get back at you.
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- mm-hmm. - that was a warning
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From chuck schumer to donald trump.
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And what happened?
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- [logan] the man ended up
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Cooking burgers. - i think we're now seeing
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All six ways laid out right in black and white.
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- and again, remember, the aclj's worldwide operation,
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We are influencing europe.
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We are there in jerusalem.
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We are all over the world
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Some places we can't talk about it.
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But you know what?
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We get to do it because people like you support our work.
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(soft upbeat music)
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(soft upbeat music)
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Joining me in studio right now.
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We are still talking a bit about the brennan.
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Will i break it down again? jim jordan.
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Jim jordan said, "john brennan, you did bad things."
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- that's right. - you know
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I don't wanna hear the word steele dossier
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For the rest of my life.
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I don't even- - well, you're gonna hear
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For it right about now.
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- i don't even want hear the word dossier
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'cause i don't feel like it's english.
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- well, i think it has a french origin,
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Dossier. - i know and it makes me,
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It feels like i'm doing my daily duolingo here.
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- well- - which my streak is strong,
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By the way.
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I don't know if you, what?
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- i was just gonna say, - over a year,
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- you could just do it.
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- almost 400 days of nonstop duolingo.
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- and you're doing specifically french,
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Showing everyone to know that - yes.
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- so that you can ostracize him in the chat.
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- just 'cause i don't wanna talk about dossiers.
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- yeah, there you go. - i still don't know
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What that means.
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- well, what this is is a criminal referral
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From the chairman of the judiciary committee, jim jordan,
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To the attorney general pam bondi, turning over evidence
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Of what they are alleging were lies before congress,
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A violation under 18 usc 1001,
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Where they are alleging
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That the former cia director, john brennan,
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Knowingly and willfully made materially false statements
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Or representations before congress.
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And how do they know that he knowingly or willfully did it?
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Because the opposite of what he said to congress,
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He memorialized in notes as he pushed for the inclusion
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Of the steele dossier
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Into this intelligence community assessment
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That was ordered by president obama.
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This is a serious violation, jordan.
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This is trying to obstruct the due,
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The actual job, the constitutionally mandated oversight
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Of the judiciary committee - mm-hmm.
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- by lying to them,
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By telling them the opposite of what was true
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By trying to cover for him
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And all of the other intelligence community cronies
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That were there under the obama administration
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That knew what they were doing with the steele dossier.
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Even when their agents
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And their analysts were telling them opposite.
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Their career cia officers were saying,
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"this doesn't hold up."
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And they're saying, "yeah, but doesn't it feel right?
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It just feels right
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That president trump would be an agent of russia."
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And that's exactly the lies that get you in trouble
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When you tell 'em to congress. - yeah, yeah.
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He says, he didn't want it to be part
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Of the intelligence information they provided.
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It was not any way a basis
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For the intelligence community assessment that was done.
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And then, the odnis, their staff report
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Said that brennan refused to remove it.
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And when confronted with the dossier's main flaws,
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Brennan responded, "yes, but doesn't it ring true?"
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So, even though these seem fake,
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It sounds true enough
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That we should put it out there, i guess,
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Because we don't like donald trump.
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So, even though it sounds it might be on brand,
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Even though we'd know it's not true
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That people would believe it's true,
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So let's put it out there.
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That is scary cia stuff.
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So, they turn you into this person
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So that people believe you're the kind of person
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That would do the things they're alleging you would do,
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Even though they know that you didn't do those things.
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- well, i mean, that is- - wrap your head
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Around that one.
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- that is the origin
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Of trump derangement syndrome, right,
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Is like that - yeah.
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- you have this image in your mind
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Of what you think may be true,
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And therefore everything that you do after that
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Is predicated on this vibe
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That you have in your head
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About the president of the united states.
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He started john brennan because he's the one that said,
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"but doesn't it ring true?"
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- feels right. - it just, i mean,
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It feels like something he would do.
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So, therefore, let's go ahead and just try
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And destroy everything
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And bring down the democratically elected president
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Of the united states
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And tear down the institutions
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Of the united states in the rule of law in the process.
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- let's go ahead and take a phone call.
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We're also gonna be talking about the destruction,
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Construction going on at the white house,
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What people are saying about it.
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Of course, using this opportunity while there's remodeling,
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To say, look who's tearing down the white house,
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Just like we told you - our institution.
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- he would.
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He would be tearing down a facade
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From the '40s that has been rotting.
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Okay, let's go to sean in florida,
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Listening and watching on rumble.
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Go ahead, sean.
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- [sean] hey, guys, you're doing a great job.
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So, my question is this,
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So hypothetically, let's say mamdani does win
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- yes. - in new york, right?
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Is there anything in the constitution
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Or in the law anywhere
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That would prevent an openly communist person
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To hold any kind of public office,
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Especially as something that caliber?
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That's my question.
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And to end it on a positive note, happy friday, guys.
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- happy friday. you're on a wednesday.
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I love that.
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We need to start doing that. - i like that he's listening.
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- then you need to do happy friday on a wednesday every day.
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Sean, no, i don't think so, right?
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When it comes down to it,
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And he would then say he's not a communist.
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He'll say he is a democratic socialist, which is different.
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And of course, when you break it down, how much different,
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I don't know, would you like some state-run grocery stores
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And state-run everything?
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So, not that different.
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- it's interesting because he wants
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To run the financial capital of the united states
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- yeah. - as a democrat socialist.
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It'd be interesting to see if he does win,
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How long his radical policies survive
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When he is facing the pressures of the biggest corporate
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And the banking in the world.
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But also, it's such a,
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So important for the city of new york and surrounding area,
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So many jobs that what he wants to do away
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With those jobs, - yeah.
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- do away with those people.
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I mean, he's got a lot of,
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If he does win this, and i hope he doesn't,
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But if he does, that he's gonna face a lot
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Of new interests. - yeah, i think
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That was an interesting discussion with jeff,
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When jeff's like,
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"yo, i don't trust him to just be a politician,"
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All this thing.
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I agree with him on that
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Because some of his views have been so radical.
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However, when you get in that seat,
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It does change your perspective.
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As the mayor of new york city, all eyes are on you.
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And guess what?
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The eyes that are currently on new york
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Are not looking at it at the most positive time.
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So, you have an opportunity, mamdani,
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If you become the mayor here,
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To be known as one of those mayors
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Who turned the city around
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Because you are coming in at a time
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Where it's at one of its low points.
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And look, i love new york, i've talked about this so much.
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It's my favorite places on the planet.
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I'm there quite often.
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I would love for it to feel safe.
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I would love for it to feel back
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To how it did in the '90s to 2000s, the giuliani years.
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As controversial as they were at the time, it worked.
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Disney came in.
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All of a sudden,
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New york became a place you could bring your family to.
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And there wasn't concern about that for 20 plus years.
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I would even say there wasn't concern
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About that other than like a security concern post-9/11.
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It still was a place you could bring your family
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And you didn't feel concerned walking down the street.
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That has changed in new york city.
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I would love to see it back.
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So, of course, do i want mamdani to win? absolutely not.
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If he does win, i wish him well, 'cause i wanna see...
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It is a big part of america.
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It's a big part of the world, the economy,
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And the thriving of new york city.
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- well, and that's what's also interesting
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Is that a lot of the policies
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And things that he wants aren't things that as mayor,
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If that's what he wants to initiate, he can do.
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- he could even do. - right.
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A lot of it, like the taxation
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And things of that nature would really go through albany,
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Through the state - yeah.
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- government leadership. - and he says that sometimes.
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He's like, "albany - right.
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- needs help". - so, he also has that ability
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That if he's not able to deliver,
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Can fall back on, "well, i'm just the mayor of new york."
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But a lot of the policies that we have concerns about
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Are the ones that he can directly affect,
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Like the nypd, like the safety of the city.
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And so, that's where it is gonna be a big test.
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Is he just gonna complain about the state government
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Not giving him his state-run grocery stores
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For the entirety of his term?
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Or is he going to try and find a way to actually govern?
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There's a lot of times you see, there's even,
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If he were able to fix the little things in new york,
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Like traffic problems, delays, and things like that,
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- safety in the subways. - safety issues,
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Then people may even forget about that
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And he can have - yeah.
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- a successful mayorship.
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But at the end of the day, when you have someone
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That's an ideologue like him, that's not what their goal is.
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I think his goal is furtherance in politics,
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Not stopping at the mayor of new york.
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So, we'll have to see what happens.
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- yeah, i'm not holding my breath that again,
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He'll do what i just said, which is to actually try his best
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To turn everything around and see where we end up.
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But you know what, again,
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I wish him well if that ends up being the case.
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Let's go to rebecca on line three.
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Rebecca's got a question,
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A comment also about mamdani, go ahead.
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- [rebecca] hello.
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I was wondering why i haven't heard any reporters
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Ask him where exactly he thinks
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He's gonna get the money
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- yeah. - to pay for how-
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- oh, when they do ask him about that,
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Where are you gonna get the money to pay for healthcare,
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For all these things you've said,
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Or maybe the free grocery stores, and all that,
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Well, he often does say,
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"well, i'll be turning to the state for that.
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I'll be turning to...
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Because what he's then able to say is,
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"look, i made my campaign promise,
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I appealed to them and the governor said no."
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- that's right.
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As well as, i mean, there are things
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That you could do within the city,
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With the city council as well.
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- [jordan] sure.
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- obviously though,
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These aren't things he can unilaterally do.
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He's not a king.
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I don't know if you heard this, we don't have kings here.
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- [logan] yeah. but it'd be better if we did.
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- i feel like the city council would probably
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Be more likely to go along with him
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On some of his ideas than the statewide.
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But it only goes so far.
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There's only so much they can do.
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And i think at the end of the day,
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That's why when running for mayor, even of new york,
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When you run on such an audacious platform
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Of democratic socialist, - mm-hmm.
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- there's only so much you can do.
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Really, your aspirations are misplaced
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If that's what you really want to bring about
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And show what socialism can do for you.
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- yeah, i mean, i think, listen, he's gonna try these moves.
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It's gonna get a lot of pushback in new york still.
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Everyone doesn't agree with his positions.
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Just because they might agree with him
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As someone young to be mayor,
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I think, again, if he actually did become mayor, phew,
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A lot of reality is gonna come rushing him in the face
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And it's not gonna be the issues he is campaigned on.
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It's gonna be just the hard work of being a mayor
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Of a huge city. - right.
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- and it's not all about identity politics
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And faith groups coming together to meet together.
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And foreign policy also.
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I mean, that's really not in the mayor's top issue,
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Though new york a little bit different than that
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Because the international city that it is.
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He's gotta manage a huge city with crime problems
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And business issues,
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And lots of legal issues and construction going on,
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And just economically so diverse
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And different from anywhere else
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In the united states of america, even the world.
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That's a lot to take on.
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Take out all the crazy issues.
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Take out all the campaign rhetoric
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About religion and israel and protesting
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And just realize what he'd have to deal with
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On day one as the mayor of new york normally.
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- absolutely.
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Look, we only got a minute left in the broadcast today.
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Will, we didn't get to the one thing
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You wanted to talk about. - we didn't even,
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I wanted to talk about it.
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- do you wanna do it - the absurdity,
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In a minute?
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- the absurdity of people on the left,
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I called it earlier this week
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When they started that construction,
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They'd be using it as an ad.
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They'd be saying, "he's tearing down our institutions."
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And gavin newsom didn't disappoint me.
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He already put up a tweet saying,
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"donald trump doesn't want you to see this picture.
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He's literally destroying the white house."
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The absurdity of this, it's so disingenuous and not serious.
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It's frustrating
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And i could talk about it for an hour, but i won't.
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- [jordan] as always, let me thank everybody at tbn
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For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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Sekulow - Evidence For Brennan Prosecution

November 5, 2025 | 29:24

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