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- on today's show, fbi director patel
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Announces probe into arctic frost federal agents.
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Kash patel exposes federal agent probe.
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And i was like, "what does that mean?" well, that's right,
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Fbi director patel announced
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There is an ongoing criminal investigation
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Against the personnel involved in that controversial,
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Of course, biden-era arctic frost,
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Which probed a lot of different people,
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And got a lot of phone records,
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Many members of congress,
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People that were like lightly adjacent.
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These were people who maybe just were republicans,
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Maybe just conservatives,
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Didn't necessarily have anything to do
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With specific trump-era things.
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And of course, now we are seeing once again
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Some positive movement from the fbi.
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But, will, why don't you give us a bit more information
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About this fbi probe?
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- that's right, there is a lot of movement
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Around arctic frost
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As well as the side of the fbi
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That was investigating
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Not just president trump,
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But other members of congress, conservatives,
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After the 2020 election.
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And what we're finding out
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Is that kash patel,
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The director of the fbi, has disclosed
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That there is an ongoing criminal investigation
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Into federal personnel
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Involved in arctic frost
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As well as, he said to just the news,
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"i'm not gonna let people get off the hook
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Or get a hall pass.
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It takes a little time
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To break down the disease temple
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That they built here in washington for decades.
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But i harp on the fact
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That this investigation should show the world
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How we're gonna operate in every single investigation."
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So kash patel obviously has been in the news a lot lately
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Because of the catching of the alleged pipe bomber
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In the january 6th and january 5th pipe bombing incident,
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Where pipe bombs were placed at the dnc and the rnc.
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They did not go off.
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However, it took nearly five years
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To catch and apprehend the individual responsible for that.
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So what we are looking at now
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Is not only is this a revelation
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That there is a criminal investigation ongoing
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And how the agents operated,
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How things were taken,
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The violation of maybe individuals' constitutional rights
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By the fbi,
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But there's a lot of other things going on, too,
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We'll get to in the next segment
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Out of congress
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That pushes back and hopefully blocks some of this
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From ever happening again.
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But i think it's a very important step
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That we know it's not just an internal investigation,
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It's not just a inspector general of the doj
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Looking into, "what we could do better,
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Where we went wrong,"
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There is actual ongoing criminal investigation
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Looking into the actions of federal agents
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And federal employees
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As they weaponized the doj and the fbi
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Against conservatives
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Just a few years ago.
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- for a lot of you who are just joining us right now,
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You may be seeing that headline.
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That's right, fbi director kash patel
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Announced that there's an ongoing criminal investigation
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Into those federal agents
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Who were involved in that arctic frost probe,
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Which again i'm sure you've heard about us talk about
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What feels like ad nauseum,
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But if you haven't, we're talking about
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Where many members of congress and others,
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Their phone records were gathered and distributed.
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But of course, we have a new fbi
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Who's saying, "you know what?
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We're not just gonna let
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People who did these things get away with it."
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'cause again they were people
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Who were not necessarily even directly involved
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With what was happening.
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Let's actually hear from director kash patel, bite one.
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- it takes a little time to break down the disease temple
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That they built here in washington for decades.
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But i harp on the fact
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That this investigation
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Should show the world
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How we are going to operate
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In every single investigation.
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Arctic frost specifically,
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We have a huge investigation going.
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That is public, i can say that.
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And it's gonna take a little more time to peel it back,
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But no, i'm not gonna let people
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Get off the hook or get a hall pass.
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I don't care what position you held in the fbi,
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You're gonna be held accountable.
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And this doj is assuredly backing us.
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- once again, being very direct, will.
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- that's right, and this is at a time
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When you're also seeing a lot of other moves.
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You're seeing that the house judiciary committee
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Has subpoenaed jack smith
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To sit before them for a deposition,
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So a closed-door deposition, on december 17th,
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Just a week from today.
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Then you also look at that they are requiring documents
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Be provided by friday
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So they can prepare for that deposition.
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Remember they had offered,
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They'd asked for him to come speak,
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And he said, "i'll do it in public.
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I'll go for the show."
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It's much easier to defend yourself in an open hearing
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When there's a lot of partisan made-for-tv moments
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Than it is in a true deposition
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Behind closed doors.
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So jim jordan called his bluff
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And said, "no, we're not gonna do that.
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We're gonna subpoena you
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And you're gonna come sit before us in a deposition
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In the middle of december."
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So good on that.
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We'll see what comes out of that.
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We also know that chuck grassley over on the senate side
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Saying that they will be holding hearings
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About arctic frost and jack smith
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In the new year in january.
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Early on, they'll be having that on the senate side.
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So congressional oversight's taking place,
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The fbi itself is doing a criminal investigation
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Of the bad actors involved in this.
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At the same time, elise stefanik,
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Who is running for governor of new york,
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Still in the house of representatives,
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Good friend of the broadcast,
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Has gotten a provision
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Into the national defense authorization act,
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Which is where the money,
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The funding of all of our national defense comes through.
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This is the appropriations bill for that.
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A provision in there
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That forces the fbi
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To disclose the initiation
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Of a counterintelligence assessment
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Or investigation against a candidate for federal office
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Or a current elected official
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Within 15 days of its launch.
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So putting into law,
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And the national defense authorization act
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Is expected to pass.
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It is a very essential piece of legislation
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That keeps our military
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And all of our national defense funded.
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There may be some pushback on little provisions,
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But by and large, the 3,000-page bill
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Typically goes through
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Because both sides see it as important.
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So if her provision remains,
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It will then be codified into law
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That if the fbi is looking into a candidate
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Or a current elected official,
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As they did during arctic frost,
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They have to notify that person within 15 days.
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So you got about a two-week headstart
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Of trying to get your information
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Before you have to notify them.
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- and elise stefanik spoke about this today
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On fox business,
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Let's take a listen to that.
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- i've been working on this provision
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For a number of years,
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And it goes back to when james comey,
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Former fbi director,
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Testified in an open hearing.
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He did not follow proper protocol
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When he illegally opened crossfire hurricane
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Targeting president trump in 2016,
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He did not notify congress.
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That closes this comey loophole
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And it pushes back on the illegal weaponization of the fbi
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To target political candidates,
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Like they have done with president trump.
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- so now we have seen this sort of on repeat
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Over and over again,
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But what's nice is,
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Maybe unlike previous administrations even,
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Look, i would even say the previous trump administration,
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You have an fbi that's not just showing corruption,
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Not just saying, "this is what happened or is happening,"
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Saying, "we're gonna take action."
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You hear that from elise, you hear that from kash patel,
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People who are actually putting probes in place
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That are investigating,
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That's not just, "here's what happened, whoops."
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And i think he even mentioned that,
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Like they're not just gonna get a hall pass
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For these kind of egregious behavior.
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- here's what's interesting to me as well,
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And i am curious where it all stems from,
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Was the trust in the fbi so broken
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By what we saw from comey and wray
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Over that long period,
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Which was even during the trump administration
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Because christopher wray
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Was put into that position
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During the trump administration the first time,
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And we saw the bad actions of the bureau continue
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Because they the entire time
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Were weaponized against president trump
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And against conservatives.
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Then we saw that get hyper speed,
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Put into hyperdrive almost,
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In the biden administration,
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Where they were going after
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Just normal everyday conservatives.
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But what i'm seeing you see in the world of x,
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With all the influencers and things,
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That they've created a anti-fbi bias so much
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That even president trump's handpicked people
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Are the bad guys still.
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- right. - and i see that
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In the chat right now.
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Like, "what is kash patel gonna do anything about it?"
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Well, he is the director of the fbi,
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And if there's a criminal investigation into this,
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Then what you can logically conclude
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Is that if the evidence is there,
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There can be charges that come from this.
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Not just, "you're fired,
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Ah, maybe you still get your pension,"
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But actual criminal charges. - yeah, you've built a bias
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Against the federal government,
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The federal government branches
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And all the different sort of departments.
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It is hard to break that.
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It is hard for me to remind, not hard,
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But when we're doing these broadcasts,
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To remind myself all the different versions.
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When we're talking about the fbi,
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We're not necessarily always talking about the fbi of now,
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We could be talking about the fbi four years ago,
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We could be talking about the fbi though
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From the trump administration the first time
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That they also told us was doing things
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That were not necessarily up to snuff,
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Because we know the issues
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That we had with that fbi.
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And of course, you have james comey
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And you have all of these people.
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It is hard when you have built that distrust system,
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As will said.
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And then you have even cracks.
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If there's a crack,
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And of course, we had that a couple times this year
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Where maybe some of the campaign promises
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By those fbi directors,
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Or really the answers that they have
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Are not what the answers
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Of the social media side of politics,
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Which is only maybe 5% i'd say or less
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Of people who actually vote and actually care.
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95% of people don't care,
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Are not engaged that way.
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But the people that do care say, "you know what?
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These are some of the top topics we cared about,
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It feels like you've blown us off,"
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And now you're seeing the fbi
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Trying to rebuild even their own maybe stumbles
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In the first six months
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By now doing things like the january 6th bomber
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Or this issue specifically with arctic frost,
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Saying, "look, you can trust us, you can rebuild."
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- well, and what's so interesting too,
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And i think it's very telling,
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Is even the deputy director dan bongino,
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He was asked directly by,
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I believe it was either sean hannity
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Or whoever he was on the night of the announcement
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Of the bomber being apprehended.
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They asked him, "hey, when you were on air,
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You were talking a lot,
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You went many different places.
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Is there a coverup specifically?
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Is there all these things?
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But now you're saying this is the individual
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And the fbi had the information, what changed?"
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And he was like,
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"i was a paid opinion broadcaster.
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And i didn't have all the evidence,
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I had training and things to look at,
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But i was giving my opinion." - "i wasn't behind
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The curtain." - "of what it was.
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Now that i'm in here,
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I've looked at all the evidence,"
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But that's even not enough for many people on the right,
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Which is shocking,
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In the conservative sphere
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That trust these people.
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And then when they see the evidence,
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The individual, and says, "hey, here's what it is,
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They no longer trust them,
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Because they'd rather believe the opinion sphere
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Rather than when someone does have the evidence is able to,
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And i give dan bongino a lot of credit for admitting,
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And saying like, "right,
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There's two different sides of this.
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Now that i'm in it and can see all the evidence
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And know that we have got our man,
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You should take my word for it."
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- yeah, and i think i understand
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There is a bit of that
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Because if you were a hardcore follower
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Of bongino, or kash patal,
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Or any of these people, you're right,
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And they were giving their opinions,
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Their thoughts, kind of definitively.
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You can't say they didn't have any record.
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Sure they didn't have record
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As a public servant,
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Or didn't have a record as a fbi director,
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Or behind the curtain at the time,
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But they certainly have a large public record
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You can go back on.
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I think when president trump makes the decision
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To bring on people who have been loud
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For years on air,
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It would not be unlike going back through our archives
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And finding stuff that we've speculated on or said.
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Sure, we could be wrong, there could be statements.
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Now, we don't really get into a lot of those kind of issues,
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But he did. and it's not that i think they should be
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Held accountable for them.
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I think you should be able to say,
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"okay, now i have the facts, it's true."
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But i understand maybe a little bit of a disappointment
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If you were one of their fans.
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That's what, let's just go back to,
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It's like dan bongino has fans,
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Kash patel has fans,
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People who are like listeners,
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Daily viewers, listeners, supporters,
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Who do remember if you speculated for months
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That this was something more nefarious
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Than what was being led on.
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Same with the epstein situation, same with those.
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When you get 'em in a room and you go,
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"oh, well, now we have the evidence,
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We think it's x, not y."
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There is a big record you can go back on.
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I think it's important to remember that
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When you're broadcasting,
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Specifically if you have dreams and goals
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That maybe are beyond that,
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That one day you may be held accountable for those views.
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Not to say that they aren't two separate entities,
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And they kind of are,
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But i think if there's a large record,
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We gotta be careful.
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That's why you can't just go with what's trending right now.
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You can't go with whatever's gonna pop a number real quick.
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If you do have beyond aspirations,
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Beyond youtube, or rumble, or whatever it may be.
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(upbeat music)
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(upbeat music)
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(upbeat music)
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- i think we should go to a phone call here
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Because we did ask,
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Why are we seeing on the right
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A lot of pushback
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Against whether it be kash patel,
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Dan bongino. - see it in the calls,
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In the comments, yeah. - we see it in the comments.
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So i think we should get to some of that.
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Let's go to bob calling from florida on line one.
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Bob, you're on "sekulow."
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- hey, bob. - how are we doing, guys?
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Hey, let's just, on the patel
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And can he defeat the deep state?
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Kash patel cannot defeat the deep state.
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Kash patel doesn't prosecute.
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Patel can't prosecute them.
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Bondy has to prosecute them.
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They screwed up the comey prosecution.
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You're going after the dc pipe bomber
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Who nobody knows,
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Yet anthony fauci is out there.
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You don't have to build a new case against him.
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The department of justice needs wins
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That everybody on both sides of the aisle know.
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Don't bring me some brian cole.
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Not that that's not important.
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Brian cole doesn't move the needle.
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Anthony fauci moves the needle.
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Comey moves the needle.
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Now, president trump, who we voted for,
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Who i really like on 99% of the things that he does,
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He can be free and loose
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With the way he says things.
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He can come in and say,
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"i will end the war before i even take office,"
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Or, "it will end in my first 10 days."
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Nobody really believes that
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Because those wars aren't stopping that quickly.
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He speaks loudly
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And he's a little free with things.
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Patel and bongino,
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They don't have that luxury,
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And they have, as you guys very, very smartly pointed out,
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They have a past as being personalities,
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And every time it looks like they swing and miss,
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It pushes the investigation
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Or the belief in the investigation
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To the general public
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Back weeks or months-
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- bob i think-- - because now we spend weeks
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And months talking about kash patel
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In a jacket that doesn't fit.
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- i think you have very valid points.
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And look, i don't necessarily agree with them,
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But i understand the frustration.
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Like i said, we are about to be at a year
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Into president trump's administration.
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At a year is when you gotta stop blaming the other side,
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Stop blaming the other previous administration.
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We gotta start moving forward here.
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We talked about that yesterday.
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I believe it today.
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You are right, they have a record.
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We're gonna talk about that,
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And of course, what does that record look like
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When they were just opinion journalists, if you will,
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And now they're moving forward as fbi directors?
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We'll get into that.
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I understand you feel like they need to earn your trust.
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I disagree in the sense of i think something
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Like the january 6th pipe bomber,
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I don't really want people
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Who are essentially terrorists
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Roaming the streets of virginia.
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And if that was something that was that easy
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To take care of,
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I'm happy that it got taken care of.
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- i think there are kind of two things at work here
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As i see it,
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As a media analyst
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As well as a government analyst,
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With all the hats that we wear here.
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One, i do feel like to some degree
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The voices on social media on the right,
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From conservative-ish influencers,
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Have gotten to a point
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Where they are doing very much similar things
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That the mainstream media have done
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Where they find one thing
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And latch onto it and don't let go,
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And that becomes the narrative,
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When in reality, they are releasing the numbers
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Of how much violent criminals they've taken down,
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How many terror attacks they've stopped,
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Things of that nature.
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The fbi is trying to be transparent
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With what they are doing.
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But i do feel like there's a lot of influencers,
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Like he mentioned the jacket that didn't fit.
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- yeah, i don't know- - it was a hit piece-
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- anything about that one. - that was printed
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In "the new york post" by miranda devine
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About how bad he is at his job.
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It was a hit piece by anonymous sources.
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So it wasn't like he was putting that out there,
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Like, "i'm gonna talk about this only,"
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It was a hit piece, he responded to it.
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And eric swalwell picked it up and ran with it.
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So to some degree, a lot of people
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That are hearing things like this
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Are then taking the bait
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That people like eric swalwell are taking.
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I agree with you on the january 6th pipe bomber.
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I would prefer to have someone
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That planted active devices at the rnc and dnc
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Not roaming the streets.
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I do agree there are other people
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That should be looked at and investigated.
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There is the other thing too,
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If there's no law that they can prove
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Beyond a reasonable doubt in court,
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Then they're probably not gonna get indicted by the doj.
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The comey situation was a disappointment.
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It was rushed through at the end
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Because the statute of limitations was running out.
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And i agree with the caller as well.
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Yes, the attorney general
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Does have to, at the end of the day, move forward,
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Or us attorney, not necessarily her
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Signing off on everything. - they're working hand in hand
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A lot. - but the doj
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Is who takes the evidence
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Gathered by the fbi,
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And then proceeds with prosecution.
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So yes, that's how that works.
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But i think that the doj
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Has been doing a very good job
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About prosecuting who they can
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And not prosecuting who they cannot.
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And so we'll have to see how it plays out.
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But i'm not at the point where a lot of people are
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That i've given up all faith in the system.
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- we actually have a lot of comments coming in,
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And one of 'em just said,
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"it's surprising that we as conservatives are skeptical,
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Even though i trust patel and bongino,
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We had the last regime lie to us about everything."
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I think there is part of that,
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There is some fatigue
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In terms of when you hear the fbi,
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You hear the cia,
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You hear the department of justice,
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Maybe because you had four years of trauma,
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You now hear those same three letters
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And immediately think negatively.
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And i do think they have a job to do still to rebuild,
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Like you said, rebuild that trust,
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But also rebuild the trust in the brand,
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'cause you know it's not everyone has been changed,
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Not everyone has been rooted out.
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It's not how it works in washington dc.
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Not everyone is the same.
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But let's move ahead and get some phone calls here.
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Let's go, there's one actually coming about it,
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Let's go to jeff in ohio on line two.
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Jeff, go ahead.
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- [jeff] yeah, you mentioned it took five years
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To get the pipe bomber,
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But a part of me can't help but wonder
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If the previous administration at the outset,
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That is christopher wray,
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That they knew who the perpetrator was early on,
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But they didn't wanna catch him
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Because it didn't fit the narrative.
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- yeah, jeff, that's obviously a possibility,
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I think more than likely than not.
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It's not that it didn't fit the narrative
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As much as that this was not where their focus was.
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They decided that this was not important,
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For some reason, you may be right,
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They may know who it is, they may have said, "you know what?
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This isn't good for us
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Or this isn't good for any specific reasons."
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We don't have that definitive details.
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What we do know is at least their eye was off the ball,
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Because 10 months into president trump's regime,
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11 months into his regime,
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We have, at least allegedly,
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That person apprehended only 30 miles from the site.
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- well, and to that point as well, jeff,
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They said they had all the evidence,
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They didn't collect necessarily any new evidence,
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But instead they went through
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What they said was three million lines of data,
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Which is a lot of evidence.
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And a lot of that is cellphone data,
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License plate readers,
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Cameras nearby, things of that nature.
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That's a lot of things to go over.
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And then were able to build the case
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And put it all together
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That it was the person that they were seeking.
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Now, what is unclear
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Is whether or not that that was the assumption
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They then had to work through all the data to confirm
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That a previous fbi had
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That it was this individual
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And just didn't go any further with it,
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Or whether they had all the evidence,
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Had all the data,
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And then didn't do any of the real police work
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To figure out who it was.
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That's what we don't know.
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But to jeff's point,
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It is apparent there was not political will
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Or even police will
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To go after this individual
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That placed two active bombs
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At the site of the dnc and the rnc
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The night before the january 6th unfolded.
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You would think regardless of narrative
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That the fbi would want to be putting someone
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Who placed active bombs at the two
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Leading parties of the united states' headquarters,
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One of which the vice president elect spoke at
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While the bomb was there.
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You would think that the fbi,
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No matter who the administration is,
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Would wanna go after that.
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What do we know?
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Things surrounding arctic frost
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Kicked off very quickly.
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And so whether it be political doj,
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Whether it be political fbi and deep state,
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They went all in
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And they went across the entire country
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And they said domestic terrorism
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Was the largest threat to america.
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And they traced it through all these cases
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Because someone from texas
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Went and stood on the mall that day in washington dc
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And didn't even go inside the capitol,
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But can link to that as a domestic terrorism case.
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They built a political narrative
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Out of the january 6th events
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And they pushed forward
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And they tried to make it so that a republican,
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Whether it be donald trump or anyone else,
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Was so tainted by that
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They would never be able to win another election.
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Now, the events, breaking in the capitol,
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It was not a good thing for our country,
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It was a bad day for our country,
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But they went so far with the political narrative
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That people saw through what they were doing.
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And i think that is evident
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In this entire january 6th pipe bomber case.
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- yeah, there's a lot of comments coming in.
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Many are these sort of,
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I guess, conspiratorial messages.
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People are concerned,
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They have their own theories and thoughts.
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We actually have a call related to that as well.
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I wanna take that.
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Bobby's calling in new york.
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Bobby, go ahead.
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- [bobby] i'm very concerned
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About conspiracy theories on the right.
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I think they're hurting the right very badly.
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You know, a guy named andy,
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No, i think i have the name right.
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And he wrote a book about saying
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How these conspiracy theories on the right
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Are hurting the right very badly.
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And after he wrote that book,
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He started getting hate mail.
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- well, bobby, i don't disagree with you at all
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In terms of the conspiracy theories.
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And look, some of them,
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Some of those conspiracy theories
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Just end up becoming theories and they end up being right.
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So look, i understand that people feel vindicated in that,
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But sometimes they get spurred so far outta control
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That you start losing sight
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Of really what's going on.
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You start making real evidence
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Or try to create evidence
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Of things that aren't true,
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Or you do the, "i'm just asking questions,"
00:24:01.795 --> 00:24:04.264
That we hear from so many people right now,
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Asking questions that lead people down roads
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That are very hard to come back from,
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Roads that really can hurt
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Not just the conservative movement,
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But can hurt you and your family
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And your mental state.
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And i really am concerned
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About even the way my feed on social media looks right now.
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When i open up x,
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There was a time when i feel like elon had just taken over
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And things started sort of shifting
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To more of a center right point of view.
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And now i feel like i'm getting fed,
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And probably is the content i'm interacting with,
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'cause some of it's so shocking,
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I'm getting fed a endless stream of conspiracy.
00:24:37.464 --> 00:24:41.769
Often targeted conspiracy
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To people of different races or religions,
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And usually without any sort of basis,
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Just pure kind of hate that's coming out.
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And there is that big concern we need to be careful with.
00:24:53.847 --> 00:24:56.016
I think when you're trying to,
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People say, "guard your heart," or something like that.
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There is a lot of that
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That needs to be going on right now.
00:25:00.220 --> 00:25:01.588
Maybe you need to be taking in a little less
00:25:01.588 --> 00:25:03.323
Or listen to shows like ours.
00:25:03.323 --> 00:25:04.858
Like i don't wanna just be here and self-promote,
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But i think we do a pretty good job
00:25:06.827 --> 00:25:08.095
Of not being those conspiracy theorists.
00:25:08.095 --> 00:25:10.431
We've never been that way.
00:25:10.431 --> 00:25:11.665
We give you the facts.
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People call in with their point of view,
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We'll take them, we'll analyze them,
00:25:15.302 --> 00:25:16.737
We'll give you our response to their opinions.
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But that is what kind of separates
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The work we do here
00:25:20.974 --> 00:25:21.875
From a lot of other shows
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Is we are not just a show,
00:25:23.444 --> 00:25:24.611
We are also a legal organization.
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We can't just come on here
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And say whatever we think
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'cause we think that's what's gonna drive numbers.
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I'm sure there are members of our social media team
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That wish we would.
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Numbers may be higher
00:25:33.887 --> 00:25:35.823
If we would just come out and say the most outlandish thing
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We can think of right now,
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Rile you up,
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And then ruin your day,
00:25:41.161 --> 00:25:42.696
Probably ruin your thanksgiving,
00:25:42.696 --> 00:25:43.931
Then ruin your christmas,
00:25:43.931 --> 00:25:45.766
'cause we've decided to put all this in your head.
00:25:45.766 --> 00:25:48.435
What i really hope you do is watch this show
00:25:48.435 --> 00:25:50.404
For one hour a day.
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You think about it,
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Maybe you have a conversation
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That spurs with you and your friends, your family,
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And then you move on with your life.
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That's what i hope.
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I hope we give you all the information
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You need for your day,
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And then you can move on,
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And you don't have to spend 24 hours
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In this sort of endless cycle.
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Sekulow - Kash Patel Exposes Federal Agent Probe

December 24, 2025 | 26:13

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