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- welcome to "sekulow."
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President trump announcing, "hey, guess what?
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We're gonna restart our nuclear testing."
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And i know a lot of you are going, "whoa!
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I don't know if that's good, bad."
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We're gonna break it down we feel like that
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Why president trump feels like this is important.
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What's it gonna look like? when's it gonna start?
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We're gonna get into all that in just a minute.
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We're gonna hear from president trump himself.
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And then later on in the show, we'll actually be joined
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By senator marsha blackburn, senator out of tennessee.
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We're gonna hear from her.
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We're gonna discuss, of course,
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That jack smith investigation, arctic frost.
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And then later on in the broadcast,
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We're gonna hear from ric grenell
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So it's gonna be packed, a packed show.
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And of course, we're gonna hear from you.
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President trump has been traveling.
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My brother is in washington dc.
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He's been traveling also and getting a lot of work done,
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Including spending some time at the white house,
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Has been involved in a lot of what's been going on,
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Some key meetings going on in washington dc right now.
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So if you can send some prayers out to our aclj team
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In washington dc, they would really appreciate it
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As they are doing some great work.
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Some of which, again, they could talk about.
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Some of which they'll probably never be able
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To talk about, but that's okay.
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That is why the aclj team is in action,
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And that's why they exist, why our government affairs team
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And our washington dc team is expanding right now
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As well as our media team.
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But let's get back to the whole point here.
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Of course, it is that breaking news,
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President trump announced,
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"it's time to restart this testing."
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And of course he's saying, "we're restart the testing
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Because essentially, the top three others
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Are starting to test, and they're testing even more,"
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Including russia, china, a little bit below that.
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But russia has, they at least claimed
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They've been trying out these missiles
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That are going 8,000 miles.
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That's right.
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And president trump responded saying,
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"hey, we don't have to travel 8,000 miles.
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We got a nuclear sub right outside of russia in the water."
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So you know what, it escalates. it's a little concerning.
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I think we should have discussed this.
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What do you think about this?
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Obviously, there is a lot of debate.
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President trump seems to want to,
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Completely end these programs,
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But it's almost a peace through strength moment here saying,
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"by saying we're gonna test it,
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Will it inevitably end with the dissolution of it?"
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I don't know if that's the case.
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Obviously, these are concerning times.
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Whenever anyone starts talking about this,
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It should be taken very seriously.
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Let's hear from president trump.
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He was on air force one yesterday talking about this.
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- [reporter] per your truth social about nuclear testing,
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What about resuming nuclear testing?
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What prompted you to do that right before the meeting?
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- it had to do with others.
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They seem to all be nuclear testing.
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- [reporter] russia?
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- we have more nuclear weapons than anybody.
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We don't do testing and we've halted it years,
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Many years ago, but with others doing testing,
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I think it's appropriate that we do also.
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- yeah, i look forward to hearing from ric grenell
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And his thoughts on this as well
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'cause he obviously is a bit inside,
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Knows what president trump is thinking always
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And seems to know some of the moves here.
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And is this just a move?
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Is this a move to just, again,
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Put everyone on their toes a little bit,
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Get the world to take notice of what america's doing,
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Saying, "well, if you're gonna start claiming these things,
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We are not going to hold back either."
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And you know, putin has been pushing forward saying,
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You know, they've been doing these testings, including,
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Again, like i said, missiles that are going 8,000 miles,
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And president trump said, "we have more than anybody
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And we stopped testing," which is probably a good thing.
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But you know what, if they're gonna be testing, china said
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They're about five years behind matching us in testing.
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Maybe it's time we do as well. i wanna know what you think.
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Obviously, this is a very controversial topic.
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If he is the president of peace, is that the same
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When you start talking about nukes and testing nukes?
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Of course, we have test facilities and sites
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That we could do this in relatively safely, i would assume.
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Of course, it's all on the heels
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Of these big international meetings
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And the war in russia and ukraine.
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Where do you stand now on that? we'll be right back.
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Where do you stand now on that? we'll be right back.
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- welcome back to "sekulow."
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In the next segment, we're joined
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By senator marsha blackburn,
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So you're not gonna wanna miss that
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And we're gonna talk a bit about arctic frost.
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The bigger revelation, once again,
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It feels like i can't get away from this story.
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That jack smith, who he was looking into,
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It now expands even further.
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Sure, first, it was people
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Directly involved with president trump.
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Then it was people that kind of felt like on the outskirts.
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Then it was senators ted cruz, lindsey graham,
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All these names that started coming up saying,
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"hey, i want their phone records."
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You know, the people like marsha blackburn.
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That all was happening.
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Then, now, as we have seen more and more information
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Come out about this investigation,
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It now moves to the media.
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And of course, when you look at the media,
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The majority of these are conservative-leaning outlets,
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You would say, so you companies
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Such as cbs, communications with those.
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You're also seeing communications with fox news,
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With fox business, with newsmax,
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With sinclair, and with others.
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That's according to chuck grassley.
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Okay, those are the names that we just know.
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Those and we also know stephen miller, dan scavino,
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Jared kushner, and lara trump were also targeted
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Along with major republican donors that,
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Again, aren't necessarily named, and that's probably good,
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That they were looking into.
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This is what was happening
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During this arctic frost investigation.
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Again, that's just a silly name
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They decide to slap on these things.
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It's where you start questioning your government
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When they start, you know, making everything,
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Ooh, it's a fun code name.
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Someone said in the chat, "logan talks like he's burdened
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By the jack smith story."
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Well, you know, it's not that i'm burdened by it as much
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As when these stories keep growing, it's just frustrating.
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It gets frustrating to report on it
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And talk about it each and every day.
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I want these stories to come to their conclusion.
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I want there to be people held accountable.
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But unfortunately, that never seems to happen.
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It just seems to grow and grow and grow.
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And i like looking at this chat, but you know what?
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Jack smith has, you know, at first felt like a boogeyman,
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But now it feels like this is becoming more realistic.
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I will not be surprised if these names
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Continue to grow and grow,
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And now we're seeing the media targeted.
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And that should be alarming.
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As a member of the media,
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I feel like that should be alarming.
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There is journalistic integrity.
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There is also privacy when it comes
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To the way that you can report
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And obviously sourcing and everything like that.
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When you start to break that down
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And the government starts to break down that walls,
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The freedom that comes in with journalism.
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Look, i don't like when the trump administration did it
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A few months ago and said,
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"here's the the pledge you have to have
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If you wanna report here,"
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And everyone walked out except for oan, okay?
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I was proud that they did that
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'cause that should not be the way our media runs.
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There needs to be an open and honest journalism
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Here in the united states.
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So when you start creeping in to what's going on there,
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It becomes a concern.
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Of course, we're also talking about one of the stories
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That came out this morning and really overnight.
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And that president trump said, "it's time to reopen
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And immediately restart our nuke testing."
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And that puts up a lot of signs.
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Look, i understand that it is a big response
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To what's happening internationally.
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So you have russia and china, two of, you know,
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Your biggest countries you have to deal with,
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Many of which are, you would say at this point,
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Not on the best terms.
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China, less on bad terms than russia, but still china.
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And of course, russia is in the middle of a war
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That they don't seem to wanna wrap up, a war with ukraine
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That president trump was, you know, pretty confident
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He was gonna be able to wrap up very quickly.
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But now he's saying that working
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With vladimir putin right now,
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It's simply not moving anywhere.
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So now we're saying, again, "peace through strength,"
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I guess is what you'd say.
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Once again saying, "you know what,
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We have more nukes than anyone.
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You start threatening us with saying,
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'we have a nuclear missile that can go 8,000 miles,'
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Well, guess what?
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We got submarines right off your coast ready to go.
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We don't need 8,000 miles."
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That's what president trump said.
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That's legitimately what he said in talking about this.
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Now, that kind of conversation should raise red flags,
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As it does for a lot of americans.
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But it should raise red flags for around the world
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That you don't want to not treat this seriously.
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Obviously, when we start playing around with nuke talk,
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It should make us all uncomfortable.
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It makes me uncomfortable.
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But at least president trump at least has suggested,
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Even in this interview yesterday,
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This conversation with reporters on air force one,
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That he would like to see it end.
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He would like to see all of it end.
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He would like to see a denuclearization of the world.
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And he said he's been talking about that
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With russia and with china.
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You know, we're here at the,
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Nearly the 250th anniversary of this country.
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That's only, you know, three people long.
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You know, that's a wild thing to think about.
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You know, we haven't been around all that long,
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And blowing ourselves up doesn't feel
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Like it could be out of the question.
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So when these talks start getting there,
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When people are right now also dealing with the fact
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That their food supply may be going away,
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That there's gonna be a shortage
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And they're not gonna be able to use their programs
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That they've been reliant on,
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Whether you like those programs or not,
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But when you start combining all these things,
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It does start to create even more of an unrest.
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And we have to make sure
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That we are not only peace through strength,
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But we're also keeping the american people safe and secure
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And can at least think a little straight
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Of what's going on on a global stage.
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I wanna hear from president trump again. this is bite six.
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Because people are asking, you know, "does this push
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To a more risky environment with those countries,
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Or do you think that it provides a safer outlook?"
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- [reporter] do you worry that we're entering
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A more risky environment when it comes to nuclear issues?
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- no, i don't think so.
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I think we have it pretty well locked up,
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But you know, we have more than anybody.
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But i see them testing.
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I say, "well, if they're gonna test,
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I guess we have to test."
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I'd like to see a denuclearization because we have so many,
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And russia has some, and russia's second and china's third,
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And china will catch up within four or five years.
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I think deescalation would be,
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They would call it denuclearization,
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Would be a tremendous thing, and it's something,
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We are actually talking to russia about that
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And china would be added to that if we do something.
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- i mean, that would be, again,
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A major moment for president trump
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If he could get those three major players to denuclearize.
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Denuclearize? that's the word.
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Yeah, you know what i'm saying.
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Okay, it's hard to say those words, i have to say.
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You guys put these things in front of me.
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I gotta say them and it's like, you know,
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Especially when i'm the only one here.
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I could usually kick it over to will
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And he could say the big words,
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But today, it's just me and you guys.
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If you could end that, if you could end the nuke programs
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Around the world, okay, that is another move
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That i think only president trump could do.
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And of course, that comes in response to russia
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Saying that they launched a missile,
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A nuclear-powered cruise missile
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That can travel 8,000 miles,
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Which is pretty bad for everyone in the western world.
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Now, who knows, this is coming from the putin regime.
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You never know what's true, what's not true.
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President trump did respond and say,
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"you know what, we have one way closer.
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Some of these have been around for a long time.
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They've been sitting there for quite some time.
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And you know what, it's time for us to test 'em,
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Make sure everything's operating successfully
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If they're gonna start threatening this way."
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And you know, i know that there's been a lot of flak
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With people about russia,
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And i've spent a lot of time there when i was a kid.
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And i don't know if people understand the global impact
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Of this nation and the size of it
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And the scope of it and the people.
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You know, we're so far and so distant away,
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Especially the last 30 years,
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That you don't think about it in those terms.
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And when you have this war in ukraine that's looming
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And it's still happening multiple years later and it,
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Again, it feels like the end is not in sight.
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And i'd like it to be.
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And i saw some people getting flak for just saying
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That they miss being able to travel to russia.
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They miss being able to experience it.
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It is a historical place that i would hope i'll be able
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To take my kids to one day that things will calm down enough
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Where you will have these regimes either out of power
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Or you will have a regime
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That is more western in their ways,
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Or at least more accepting of what's going on
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And not starting these wars 'cause it is a beautiful country
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With beautiful people and an amazing culture.
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But unfortunately, like a lot of these,
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When they get stuck under rule of these, you know,
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Dictator-like characters, this is what happens.
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And you start messing around with nukes,
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You start messing around with the safety of the world.
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Ah, man, it is a concern that we all should have.
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And i'm interested to see your thoughts.
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And i'm seeing some of the comments in.
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Maybe you're just not taking it seriously.
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Maybe you think this is just president trump bloviating.
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Maybe it is. what do you think?
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Do you think this is just a game?
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Do you take president trump for his word?
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How are you gonna feel when they start testing these things,
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He said, "immediately"?
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- welcome back to "sekulow."
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Senator marsha blackburn is joining us right now,
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Someone that represents us here in our nashville office
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So it's always great to hear from you.
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This is about what we call arctic frost
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Or what they call arctic frost.
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It seemed to start with just a handful of republicans.
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Information started getting out there.
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Not that that wasn't egregious enough,
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But now we are seeing how deep it is.
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We know there's been over 400 groups that have been,
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And of course they're all, for the most part,
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Majority conservative or republican leaning
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That were targeted here and that have been exposed now
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That cell phone records have been pushed for
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And everything that's been going on,
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Including in the news media, this corruption.
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I mean, how deep does this go within the ranks,
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It feels like, of the previous department of justice?
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- [marsha] yes, and i think it is deep and wide
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Because what you have seen is jack smith
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Was put in place for arctic frost
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By chris wray and merrick garland and lisa monaco.
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And on april 4th, '22, they did a memo.
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Chris wray wrote a memo to merrick garland and lisa monaco
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And said, "we think maybe, possibly
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There could have been some kind of coordination,
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Some kind of obstruction.
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We don't know.
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There's some, there could be alleged activity."
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It was very vague and nebulous.
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- [logan] very nebulous, yes.
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- [marsha] and so then they put jack smith
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In charge of this.
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Well, then they came along and there were nine senators,
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All republicans who support trump, who had valid questions
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About the outcome of the 2020 election.
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So then they sent a subpoena
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Over to our wireless companies
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And pulled our cell phone records,
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And they got every phone call we either made or received,
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The duration of the call,
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The person the call was to or from,
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And where we were physically standing when the call
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Was either made or received. - wow.
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- [marsha] very invasive.
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It's a violation of our first and fourth amendment rights.
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It's a violation of the speech and debate clause
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Of the separation of powers
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And the stored communications act
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And probably a few other things.
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And as we go through this process
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And get ready to begin our hearings with jack smith
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And the wireless companies and find out more,
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I think it's going to be appalling because,
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Think about this, if they were doing this to us senators,
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What are they doing to the american people
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That they don't like or that disagree with them?
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- absolutely, i mean, like, that's what i was thinking is,
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As you were saying this.
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I go, if they were willing to do this to you
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And you've been, you know, personally targeted,
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I mean, along with a lot of this group here.
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And kind of putting into perspective
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Of what that feels like for you and knowing that they,
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You know, and someone like you who has been so pushing heavy
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On child safety and online child safety even knowing that,
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You know, people, parents with kids and grandchildren,
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That this should be a wake-up call
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That this kind of information is happening
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And that your cell phone provider is willing, some of them,
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Some of them did not, to say, push back,
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Some did push back on it, is willing to do this.
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And i guess the answer that a lot of american people
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Are wondering, senator blackburn is,
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You know, you've been targeted by this.
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So many of our other friends have been.
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What does accountability now look like for jack smith?
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- [marsha] yes, well, thank goodness we had kash patel
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Move forward and fire everybody involved with the cr-15 unit
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That worked with jack smith.
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For jack smith, we have written a letter to refer him
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To the office of professional conduct over at the doj.
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And the findings from that would give us the opportunity
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To move far with, get forward with getting him disbarred.
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We also, as we do our hearings, we think that accountability
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Should be being held accountable
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To the full extent of the law,
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Not only for jack smith, but for these individuals.
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Would we hope that we see some indictments on this?
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Yes, because it was criminal
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And it was a violation of rights.
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Should there be a trial? yes, there should be a trial.
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The american people should not have to worry
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About their government being weaponized against them
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Because they are from a different political party
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Or have a different opinion.
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- absolutely, senator blackburn.
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It's always great to hear from you.
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You know, you got a busy day ahead,
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And of course we'll be praying for you.
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And i think our team listening right now and watching,
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Say a prayer for senator blackburn, for all of these people
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To stand strong in this moment and also, you know,
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To weather the storm, if you will,
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Because you all are taking a lot of hits right now.
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Of course, people are gonna be blaming the shutdown
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And everything that's happening on the wrong, you know,
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The republicans will say,
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"no, here's what it is, here's the truth."
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And democrats will be blaming the republicans.
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And you know, i'm overhearing conversations happen
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Here in tennessee where people do get concerned.
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They get concerned when the snap benefits
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Or they hear the air traffic controllers
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Aren't getting funded, what that's gonna look like.
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But people like you are out there standing strong.
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I just wanna say thank you.
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Thank you for being a consistent supporter of us here too.
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But also, i'm just gonna encourage our audience right now,
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Again, as our washington dc team is really growing right now
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As we are having a bigger government affairs operation
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Right now, it's such big events over the next couple days
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In washington, say a prayer for our team and say a prayer
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For people like senator blackburn who are standing strong.
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Thank you so much for calling in today.
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We're now joined though by senior advisor
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For national security and foreign policy here at the aclj,
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Long time friend, ric grenell.
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Ric, of course, when you start saying "nukes,"
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You start talking about nuke testing,
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You know, the calls come in, the comments come in.
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People start going, "oh!
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Okay, what are we talking about here?"
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That's not necessarily what i expected
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To wake up to this morning,
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But i think a lot of people are pushing for,
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Hey, we know that this testing is going on
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From other countries.
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And if the goal is actually to end the nuclear programs
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And to, you know, completely wrap this up,
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We need to get the attention of china and russia.
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Do you feel like that is what's happening
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With president trump or what's the game plan here
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As every american's woke up to probably a push notification
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On their phone saying,
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"president trump to begin nuke testing."
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- look, i think people need to understand
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That nuke testing is extremely important.
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We have to make sure that our stockpiles are working,
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That they're able to be used.
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This is about peace through strength.
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This is not about using them
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But making sure that people know
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That we do have not just a threat but a credible threat.
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As a diplomat, as somebody who hates war,
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I love nuke testing and here's why.
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Because when a diplomat is sitting at the table,
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The best thing in the world is to have president trump
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Behind us saying, "i want our diplomats to succeed,
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But if we have to transfer this file to the pentagon,
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They don't negotiate, so negotiate hard with our diplomats.
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Let's make sure that we have a peaceful settlement.
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The alternative is for you to have the entire situation
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Given over to pete hegseth at the department of war.
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They don't negotiate, they just protect."
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So i love having a credible threat behind us.
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And one thing that we've known about president trump
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Is that he uses the credible threat
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To make sure that he protects americans
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And that the other side always knows
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That there is a threat of tariffs,
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Some peaceful maneuvering of sanctions
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Or other tools of the united states government,
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But there's also a possibility of direct military strikes.
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That combination makes president trump very credible.
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- you've been in those rooms.
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You've sat down with a lot of these people,
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And i do think that you are right in that notion,
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Thinking that, very different.
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We had a call come in and say,
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"hey, a lot of these countries we're talking about here,
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They value human life very differently."
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It's a lot of different concerns that are going on,
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And whether that's economic sanctions or whatever it may be,
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You know, having those tools, as you said,
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Especially when president trump has been more than willing,
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Especially with early on, you know,
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There's certainly a breaking point for him.
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And i think maybe, you know, we're getting there
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In terms of russia and everything that's going on
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Where he's been willing to sit down and have these meetings
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And try to figure out all of the peaceful ways
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To get things done, unlike the biden administration
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Who decided, no, if we deem you a quote unquote "bad guy,"
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We're not even gonna return your calls.
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- look, i think people need to calm down here
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And realize that we're having an adult conversation.
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We're talking about being prepared, not pulling the trigger,
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And there's a huge difference.
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And if you're the us government,
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Put yourself in the situation
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Where you're the leader of the free world.
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You can't just say, "we're giving up all of our nukes
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And so come get us."
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You have to be able to be smart
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About protecting the american people.
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President trump has demonstrated over and over
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And over again that he values human life,
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That he rescues our hostages,
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That he's protecting the american people
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Both from a prosperous standpoint
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And from a national security standpoint.
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And so we need to be able to make sure
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That we have a credible threat, not just a threat.
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This is exactly what the president is doing.
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People need to listen very carefully
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To what is being discussed and not get duped by the media
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Into thinking that something else is happening.
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- that's right, the headline, like i said,
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The push notification a lot of us got happened to,
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You know, very nicely leave off the next part,
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Which was saying, you know,
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"my plan is that there should be no nukes,
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That we need to do nuclearize the world,
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That we need to be talking with...
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That that needs to be the plan.
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If we talk with russia, we're talking with china,
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We're gonna end this entire program if possible."
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But before we can end it, as you said,
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We need to make sure things are operational.
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When russia says, "hey, we have one
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That can go 8,000 miles."
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And you go, "okay, well, okay, well maybe we should be
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At least looking into it."
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You know, whether that's true or not,
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This is coming from russia, who knows?
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But of course, you can't take those threats not seriously.
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- the headline is different than the story.
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But look, we need to be, as consumers of news,
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We need to be very smart about what's happening.
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The media is a business, people. get it through your head.
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They want you to click on things.
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They're gonna say outrageous, outlandish, clickable things.
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You need to be smart enough to read.
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You have a responsibility. read.
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Don't just look at something
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And jump to conclusions and post on facebook.
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- look, it's a tough thing, ric. i'll be honest with you.
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I talk to our team every day about, you know,
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"you gotta have something."
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They'll push for me to say,
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"here's what we're gonna say for the headline."
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And we have to have this conversation to go back and forth
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And go, "well, this is, you know,
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The social media team says this is what's gonna work.
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This is what youtube is gonna serve."
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You know, that's also the truth
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Is that what's getting served,
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It's not necessarily always cut and dry.
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It's about, will people click over?
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Not only will they click over,
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But will it actually make it in front of the eyeballs?
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It is a game.
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It's, sadly, a game that a lot of us have to play.
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- yeah, of course, of course.
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This is the business of media
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And the competition that we face right now.
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- maybe briefly discuss this.
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Of course, we spent a lot of time this morning in the last,
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It feels like the last 10 years, i think,
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We've talked about jack smith here and now arctic frost
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Where we've seen now more pushes and pushes
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And more releases saying,
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"not only was it the people that are around president trump,
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Then it was like a senator that may have called him once."
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To now saying that they were looking at the phone records
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Of major media organizations, fox, cbs even, sinclair.
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That it just seems like
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That it keeps going deeper and deeper.
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As someone who was there, ric,
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And someone that you know what it's like on the inside,
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How you feeling about all this?
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- first of all, let's just say, "thank you, chuck grassley."
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If you live in iowa,
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If you see chuck grassley, you have to thank him
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For all of his work on this. - absolutely.
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- i loved working with him when i was dni.
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He is someone who is digging into these issues.
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- [logan] yeah, no joke.
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- he doesn't just take the government's word for it,
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No matter who's in charge.
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He's the one who unearthed this,
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And we see jack smith is somebody
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Who has literally been politicizing
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All of these investigations.
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I hope he's prosecuted.
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- [jordan] as always, let me thank everybody at tbn
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For providing this time to us at no cost so we
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Can update you on the most important issues of the day.
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From all of us at the aclj, thanks, tbn.
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Sekulow - Trump Goes Nuclear Amid Jack Smith Bombshell

November 12, 2025 | 29:38

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