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- welcome to "sekulow," a packed show in studio.
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And guests we had, jordan's in studio,
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Will's here, of course,
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But we do have some breaking news.
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Will, let's break it down.
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- that's right. this just came out this morning.
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We're finding out that the acting attorney general,
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Todd blanche, is moving forward
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And expanding the investigation into those individuals
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In the intelligence community
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That may have engaged in a conspiracy
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To undermine the first presidency of donald trump.
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This is something we've talked about.
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This is something we've seen even frustration of,
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Why can't we get there?
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Why can't we see real accountability?
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We know the evidence that's been laid out about this,
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But what we're finding out now is that the investigation
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Is no longer just happening in florida.
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There was a grand jury impaneled in south florida
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Where they were hearing evidence about, namely john brennan,
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The former cia director,
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Which we know pushed forward this russia narrative
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Even when other individuals in the cia were telling him
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This is not credible,
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This does not live up to our standards as the cia.
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And he said, "well, doesn't it just ring true?"
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But we're also finding out it is expanding
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To washington dc that a grand jury
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Is impaneled there as well,
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And that there are cooperating witnesses
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That are going before that grand jury giving testimony.
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So we know now that former senior intelligence
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And fbi officials are cooperating
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With the doj on this, jordan.
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- yeah, i mean, i think when you look at this
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And you realize again that these investigations,
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You got top individuals here like former cia directors,
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You've got to have a serious team on it.
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And obviously what happened when the acting attorney general
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Came in, he saw that you know this career prosecutor
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Had been on this but there wasn't someone who had
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You know, come from the outside or maybe a specialist
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In going after individuals.
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That high ranking, that's not your average,
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Just cia agent that you're investigating for crime,
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This is your cia director.
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And if you truly believe
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That the criminal investigation is warranted,
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The speed at which this one go, has gone has been very slow.
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And i feel like you'd either find
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You should know what you're looking for
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When it comes to the criminal acts,
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And either you find the evidence
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That is going to be strong enough to bring to a court,
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To a jury, to a grand jury,
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Or you're gonna have to come out
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And say, "listen, there were things that we think
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Were wrong along the way,"
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That's different than building a court case,
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Actually sending someone to jail.
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- and that was one of the questions i had is
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What is the end game of all of this
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When you have this so many years later
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And we're dealing with situations
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That feel at this point,
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Based on everything we've gone through,
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Almost like ancient history.
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I know it's not, but what's the end game
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Of these investigations?
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- well and i think once you look at also
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What tulsi gabbard released even last week-
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- that's what i mean. - that the ongoing issue
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Of this conspiracy, how it even tied in
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With that impeachment over the ukraine phone call
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Was really perpetrated by the same people
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That pushed this hoax on the american people.
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The end game is accountability.
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The end game is for the doj is obviously to try
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And bring about a prosecution.
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- if you're watching right now,
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Let me know where you're watching from.
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We always like to see that in the comments.
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It's a great way to, you know, show the worldwide impact
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Of the aclj
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And the worldwide reach of this show that we do here,
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Whether that is on youtube or rumble
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Or any of the platforms we're on.
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But i think we need to reset what's going on
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Because there is obviously confusion
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When we start talking about these investigations
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That starts stemming back a decade with the amount of time
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That has elapsed the amount of things that have happened
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That this is still important and it's good.
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Look, i think it's important to know that your doj cares
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To still be following up on these things
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And not to sweep them under the rug.
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- well and i think that is part of the frustration is
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That almost many of these people
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Think if we can just extend this out long enough
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Or we can win enough elections,
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I'll never be held accountable.
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What you see here, is specifically related
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To a deposition that john brennan gave to congress in 2023,
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Where it was the judiciary committee.
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It was jim jordan also asking questions about this,
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Doing congressional oversight investigations
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And still pushing the lies that we now know were lies.
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We have the evidence
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From the intelligence community themselves
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That was released by the director of national intelligence,
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Tulsi gabbard, that showed that they knew
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What they were saying wasn't true.
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And they were still pushing this russia hoax
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On the american people for one reason, one reason only,
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And that is to bring down a sitting president.
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It was an internal coup.
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This was the deep state in conjunction
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With former people in those offices
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Still pushing a narrative.
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That's why president obama said,
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"you have to do a new intelligence community assessment,
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Ica, as quick as you can now that he's won the election."
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They didn't expect it to happen.
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They thought they'd done enough damage,
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But when president trump won,
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They had to change the entire script.
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And they knew that things they were basing it on were false
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Or erroneous or not up to the standards of the cia
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And our intelligence community.
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And so, jordan, when the oversight continued
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Even into 2023 because of the makeup of congress
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And then the presidency changing hands
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To after the covid era,
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What we see is that they were still trying to get
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At the truth.
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Even though we know that the,
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It appears to the intelligence committee
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Had all the documentation.
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- right, i mean here we also know jim jordan said
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That back in 2023, that it's clear to him now,
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And this is his opinion and view,
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That john brendan, when he was under oath
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And testifying before the judiciary committee,
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And sometimes those are done behind closed doors,
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That when he said the cia had nothing to do with it,
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They had evidence to show that that was, that was untrue.
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And it would've been at the levels of a john brennan type,
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It would've been at low-level officials
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That john brennan wouldn't oversee
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If they were helping to write
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And then distribute the steele dossier,
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Which they used to say president trump was not qualified
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To even run for president of the united states
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Or be the president of the united states.
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And even after he was president, you know,
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Mueller, impeachment, impeachment, nonstop.
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And i think even still to this day,
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The russia-ukraine war, you know, people question,
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Is he really on the right side while we're,
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We've been supplying the number world,
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Number one supplier of weapons to ukraine in the world
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Has been the united states of america.
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President trump has been doing that,
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And yet still he has to deal with every day,
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Oh, he's a puppet of putin somehow.
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The question is to me is like almost not anymore
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About like how the, how much the cia was involved,
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It's was it, at what level, were they lying to congress,
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And then can you connect those crimes there?
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- [logan] yeah, what were the crimes that were committed?
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- 'cause john brendan wasn't writing the steele dossier
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With christopher steele.
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So there's a lot of people that would have
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To be involved in a conspiracy like this.
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And then if you go into a conspiracy
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To take down a president of the united states
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After they were elected as well, so they didn't stop,
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Didn't say, "oh you know what he beat us,
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We're gonna leave this behind," they kept it going,
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And then they did an impeachment.
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- so i guess if they keep going, then might as well,
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We might as well keep going i guess
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On the other side's what the doj is thinking.
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- and i think what's also important to point out here is
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That while we look at these things
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And we think, oh man,
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That now this has been going on 10 years,
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Will anyone ever get held accountable?
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There are a lot of big stories in our news cycle
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That are wanting accountability for things
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That have happened a long time ago.
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And realizing that just because something started
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10 years ago
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And clearly the conspiracy continued on,
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It doesn't mean that there should get a-
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- it's tough. - a free pass
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And that we should not think this is important.
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Remember, they were trying to take down,
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This is the party of democracy, of saving democracy.
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Someone that was elected by the people,
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They were trying to get out of office,
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Not by waiting four years in running a clean campaign
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And trying to win at the ballot box,
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By trying to find ways to tarnish the reputation
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And bring it down internally.
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That shouldn't have a statute of limitations in my opinion.
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- i do wonder if,
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And maybe the audience can tell me this,
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Is it something though that when that election happened
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In 2020, i'm sorry, in 2024,
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And it was a fairly, what you consider a modern landslide
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For president trump winning the electoral
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And the vote-
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- popular vote. - the popular vote,
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Did, does that, it doesn't end the corruption,
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But is that the answer to the corruption?
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Do you care after that?
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I'm curious if you care, like, look,
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I understand why it's important,
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I understand why they should be doing this.
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It's, does the american people find it
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To be worth their time to invest in this story when,
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As you said, so much has happened in the meantime?
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- well, i think personally, this all ties back
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To even stuff we talked about yesterday when we talked about
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The mayor of new york
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And pushing his agenda
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And we brought up that speech by clarence thomas
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That was given at university of texas
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About the foundational documents,
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The declaration of independence
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And how the progressivism that we are seeing
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That he referenced, you know, started with woodrow wilson
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And has permeated, it has uneasily coexisted
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With american founding documents,
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But it is not something that can live forever,
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Coexist forever.
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And when you look at even this battle, not,
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It's not just about president trump,
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It's not just about the deep state
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Or these bad actors that were within it,
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It is really a clash
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Between foundational constitutional republic
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And our founding documents and everything we're based on.
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And the way that the deep state is trying
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To completely subvert our american system of government
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And try to be the only thing that matters.
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And that tilts the scales in elections,
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In policy and everything.
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- i think that they don't like
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That under the trump administration,
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While the cia plays a very critical role
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Under national security,
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They're not put forward as like people
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To go on tv every weekend.
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They sometimes do, but every weekend
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To push a political narrative.
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And that's what the obama intelligence world
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Was kind of weaponized into doing, right
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Which they weaponized it into just another
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Part of the political machine
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And i think they did a very good job of doing that
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In the sense of saying,
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"listen, you can't question the president,
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I'm the head of the cia,
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So if he's telling you this
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And i'm telling you this
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And i gave him the information
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And we're the cia,"
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But when you realize how politically active they all were
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Then when they realized,
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Oh, donald trump may actually win this election,
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What could we do to make him ineffective?
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We've gotta tie him to russia directly.
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So first we're gonna say that we think russia
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Wants donald trump to win.
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Okay, that's a, that's already again, look at,
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Look at the situation now and decide whether
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Or not you wanted donald trump to win
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If you're the situation involving russia
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And what we've done to one of their biggest allies
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To keep things cheap in russia, iran.
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Okay, so in china, do you really think
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They wanted to deal with donald trump again, really?
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The second part i would say to that is then they had
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To craft this dossier, go out, put their names on it
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And say it was completely true.
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Thinking that because it was donald trump,
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No one would've ever scratched the surface
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And think, you know what this sounds a little ridiculous
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And over the top.
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And then you realize it all crumbled, it all crumbled
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And they had to move to a phone call
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About ukrainian prosecutors
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And joe biden saying,
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"if you don't fire someone,
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We won't give you a billion dollars.
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(gentle upbeat music)
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(gentle upbeat music)
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(gentle upbeat music)
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- wanna pivot a little bit
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Talk about the work of the aclj
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'cause you gotta remember what we're fighting for here
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Folks we are fighting battles for life,
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For faith, and for freedom
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And they're happening right now
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And what i want you to see right now is a special video
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Presentation that our team put together.
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They were recently able to spend some time, the aclj team,
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Our incredible crew,
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In the national archives.
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And as we approach the 250th anniversary
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Of this country's founding,
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We wanted to show you a bit more about what it is
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That we are continuing to fight for 250 years later.
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Take a look.
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(traffic whooshing) (horns hooting)
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(lively cello music)
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- the national archives is america's record keeper.
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And that's important because it preserves our history.
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It preserves who we are as a people.
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There's an entire story
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That can be told here over 250 years.
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It's the american story
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And it's told right here at the national archives.
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And it's important that people all around our country
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And all around the world have an opportunity
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To visit these presidential libraries
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And national archives facilities
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And learn from this history.
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My name is jim byron
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And i am the senior advisor
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To the archivist of the united states.
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And i am currently performing the duties of the archivist.
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The national archives is the final repository
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For all of the records of the united states government
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Going as far back as our founding,
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Everything up until world war i
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Is actually in this building.
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And then after world war i,
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There are records all across the country.
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The understanding of history today absolutely helps
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To protect what the founding fathers wrote
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Into those founding documents.
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Now you look at the bill of rights,
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What in the original bill of rights is called article 3,
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Look what it promises, free speech, right to free assembly,
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Most fundamental qualities that we are able to enjoy
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As americans came out of thoughtful debate and dialogue,
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But more importantly, principles,
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That these founding fathers could write in those liberties
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Into something that would survive,
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Survive the test of time.
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This was a radical experiment.
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I mean, these were concepts that needed to be tried.
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And if you look at the effect 250 years
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After the declaration of independence,
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I'd say we're doing pretty well.
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For all those millions of people
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That come through the national archives every year,
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And especially for the youngest visitors,
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I hope that they can take away that they are the legates
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Of an incredible history of 250 years of america,
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Of the american story that they carry forward
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The principles that our founding fathers enshrined
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Into these founding documents.
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You know, if we don't look back
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And understand our history, there's a real risk that,
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You know, going forward we can lose it,
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Lose that understanding
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Of what drove these people 250 years ago
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To build a new government
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To separate from the most powerful empire
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That the world had ever known.
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When you see young people walk through
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And have a chance to go up
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And, you know, be face to face with that tangible symbol
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Of american freedom
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And american liberty, it's really something.
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And it's important to instill in them the knowledge
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Of what came before them.
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(lively music)
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- and again, that was an exclusive look
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Into the national archives just for our team.
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So that's the access that we have right now. very cool.
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I'm glad our team can be up there.
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We'll have more of that kind of content throughout the year
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Again celebrating the 250th of america.
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And with that, celebrating the reason
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Why we continue this fight.
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- well, and once again, a speech kind of went viral
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Last week from justice thomas,
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Where he was speaking at university of texas in austin
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At the celebration marking the 250th anniversary
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Of the declaration of independence.
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And this is something he said in that speech.
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And i think it's so timely,
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Especially when you see that video, it really celebrating
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And showcasing why these founding documents are important
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And why we preserve them, why we protect the original copies
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As a part of our history.
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But here's what justice thomas said.
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He said, "as we meet today,
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It's unclear whether these principles will endure.
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At the beginning of the 20th century,
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A new set of principles of government was introduced
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Into the american mainstream.
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The proponents of this new set of first principles,
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Most prominently among them the 28th president,
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Woodrow wilson, called it 'progressivism.'
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Since wilson's presidency,
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Progressivism has made many inroads
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In our system of government and our way of life.
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It has co-existed uneasily with the principles
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Of the declaration,
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Because it is opposed to those principles,
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It is not possible for the two to coexist forever."
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And that is the fight you're seeing play out in new york.
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It is the fight you see play out across this country
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In california, in some of the bastions
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Of this progressive ideology that tries to get more
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And more progressive as the days go on.
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But it's everywhere.
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It's why we have to fight in places like houston
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And atlanta for teachers that are trying
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To express their first amendment rights,
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For pastors in chicago using their first amendment right,
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The principles of the declaration of independence,
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Justice thomas says,
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"are not possible to coexist forever
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With the principles of progressivism."
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And that is why we can't let our guard down.
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Because even if it seems
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That we get precedent at the supreme court
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And we win a legislative battle
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Or a politician comes into office
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That supports the conservative ideals
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That we hold so dearly, we know that around the corner
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There's another mayor mamdani
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Who's pushing even broader progressive ideals,
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Democratic socialism they'll call it
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To make it sound a little bit more palatable
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For the mainstream right now.
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But it all goes back to this,
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It's no irony or or mystery why the father
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Of progressivism was woodrow wilson,
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Who also instituted the first income tax on americans.
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The root is there and it's not going away.
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And so we have to continue this fight at the aclj
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For the principles, for those documents,
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And that's why even sending our team to go film
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And spend time with the archivist to really unpack that.
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And there's more from that video you'll see
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As we get closer into the 250th anniversary of the country.
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But it is important to remember
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And to understand why these things are precious
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And why we have to fight for them.
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All of this goes to show though that the policies
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That are pushed as justice thomas even referenced,
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That they can't coexist forever.
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And when you look at the way
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How quickly they have made mamdani
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The face of taxing the rich,
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Even though those that would try to call themselves
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More mainstream democrats, not a democrat socialist,
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Are the ones carrying the water for it, governor hochul,
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You're gonna see that continue to happen, that is the fight.
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And so when you see republicans or conservatives that get in
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And want to do, what do we wanna do,
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We want to end waste fraud
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And abuse that could cause budget shortfalls
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Or we want to reform these bureaucracies that are so bloated
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And wasting money
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And spending money that you become,
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You have no heart, you are wanting
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To just take away from people that need it,
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You don't care about the world, you're selfish,
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Or maybe you just, you don't understand how the world works,
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You're naive, in reality,
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We're seeing how much the government's being defrauded
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And wanting to fix things, that you're a bad person.
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But if you want, you know, looking at the tax policy,
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1% already pays 46%.
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Let's find more ways to take money from people
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That have worked hard and earned it.
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It doesn't stop there,
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It's gonna go through the entire system
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'cause the end game of democrat socialism is to not,
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You not own anything.
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Why do they want to cap the price of rent?
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Well then the landlords won't be able
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To raise their rates to pay for these taxes.
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They'll have to forfeit their properties
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And then the savior, mamdani, will come in
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And say, "hey, the government can take these properties
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And make it affordable housing."
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It strips everyone of their ownership, of their agency.
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You cannot be living under the principles
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Of the declaration of independence
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And follow those progressive guidelines.
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And that is what they are trying to get, as logan calls it,
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The capital of the world,
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One of america's great treasures, the new york city.
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- i feel like you said that to slight, like,
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"as logan calls it."
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- well, i mean- - he calls it that.
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I mean a lot of people call it.
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- right, it is, because it is.
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But what we have seen-
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- the global marketplace happens in wall street-
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- part, because of the decisions of these progressives.
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- yeah, and it really is sad.
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And i think this is where, honestly our organization,
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And our show is different than a lot of what you hear from,
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I guess you'd say quote unquote "conservative commentators."
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And i'll be honest,
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This morning when i was driving into work,
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I was flipping through all the major stations.
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You know, you know siriusxm has cnn
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And fox and sec right back to back so let's hear,
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Fox was yelling about how they hated all the people
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On one network
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And then you know cnn was talking
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About how much they hated the other people
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And ms nbc was hating everybody, it was so much negativity,
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- [will] it's ms now by the way.
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- i'm sorry ms now, they hate everybody,
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There's so much negativity
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That you're giving them people no path to hope,
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No path to any sort of success.
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And i don't want this show to become that
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Because when i'm talking about new york city
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And the issues that are happening there,
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It's 'cause i love new york city.
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We talk about los angeles, it's 'cause i love los angeles.
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I've spent some of my most formative times
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In those cities, around those people,
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Great people, great people who by the way, sure,
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Maybe not vote the way you want them to vote,
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But look at what new york city put up.
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Let's just be honest.
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You had a disgraced governor, who again,
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I liked as a leader a little bit.
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I mean, he had some pretty radical stances
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That i do definitely do not agree with.
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But for new york city or for new york, you know,
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It was at least somewhat there.
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So someone who had been run through the mud for, you know,
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The last five years is your only alternative to a young,
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Charismatic, incredibly well-spoken,
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Entertaining man of the people, if you will.
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You may hate that i say that,
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I don't like really any of his positions,
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But i also am not blood.
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It is like barack obama, when you put someone like that up,
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They are gifted
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And they are gifted at speaking to people in a way
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That i had not seen anyone talk about a mayoral race
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In new york city like this in forever, really forever.
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I don't mean that exaggerating,
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No one was talking about the mayoral race of new york city
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The way they were talking about this guy.
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And it is because he's a young, charismatic, gifted speaker
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Who you can disagree with everything,
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But if you were given the options,
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It was gonna be very difficult
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If you were already fairly liberal,
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Which if you are likely living in new york city,
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There's a good chance the left,
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The left liberal is going to win,
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You're gonna engage a lot of voters to get on board.
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They had just come out of
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What they thought was issues with eric adams,
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They had come out of governor cuomo.
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There was so much that happened the last five years,
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You have all the people that come to new york city
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And you have a change of the guard.
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Now again, my hope was that he would find himself
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In a situation where he sees the debt, he sees the issues
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And goes, "okay, i'm a smart guy,
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I'm gonna work my way towards the middle."
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That is not the way he has operated so far.
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The only, you know,
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You'd say walk across the aisle
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Has been the fact that he did what honestly,
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I thought was a pretty risky move for his base,
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Which was going to the oval office
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And meeting with president trump.
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- that's right,
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And and one thing you also said,
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You talked about that hope issue
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When you're hearing the news channels,
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And honestly that has become one of the worst things
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About the online conservative community
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Is you're seeing many people with podcasts,
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With followings, influencers that have become
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This kind of conservative nihilist,
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And where there is no hope,
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And i think as you mentioned,
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What we showcase differently here
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Is that we will continue to fight.
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I think you should always be skeptical of someone
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That doesn't con tell you to continue the fight.
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If they're just saying, this is all bad, this is all rigged,
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This is all against you
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And there is no hope, i would turn it off.
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I wouldn't listen to that person.
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And you're seeing that not only creep
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Into the influencer class or in the media,
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But even when we bring up things
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About potential accountability,
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It's hard not to feel jaded or brought down a little bit,
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But we won't give up.
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- [logan] it's a hard knock life.
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- and we will continue that fight,
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And don't fall for this conservative nihilism
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That is pervasive right now.
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Sekulow - Trump Probe Investigation Expands To D.C.

May 6, 2026 | 26:30

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