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Stakelbeck Tonight | Eric Stakelbeck: U.S./Israel: The Allied Front | Stakelbeck Tonight | June 2, 2026
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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- I'm erick stakelbeck and israel
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- Is the first line of defense for western civilization.
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- This tiny nation
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- The size of the state of new jersey
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- Is fighting the good fight and helping
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- Hold back the wolves of jihad from coming to our shores.
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- So it's no wonder that the same forces that want to destroy
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- Western civilization, whether it's
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- Islamist, radical, leftist, or fringes on the right.
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- Also despise the world's one and only jewish state,
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- And even dispute its right to exist.
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- That's why the work of judge roy altmann is so important.
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- He serves on the united states district court
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- For the southern district of florida,
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- And has become one
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- Of the most compelling voices defending israel in the war
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- Of ideas.
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- In his new book, israel on trial,
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- Which is a new york times bestseller, judge altman
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- Takes on some of the most common accusations leveled
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- Against the jewish state, from claims of colonialism
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- And apartheid to questions of international
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- Law and israel's right to defend itself.
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- Drawing on archeology, history, legal precedent
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- And hard evidence,
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- He exposes how
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- The anti-israel narrative is dominating college campuses,
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- And media headlines simply don't stand up to scrutiny.
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- The judge joined me earlier to share more.
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- Judge roy waldman, we want to dig into your new york
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- Times blockbuster bestseller, israel on trial.
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- But first, i have to ask you.
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- We had the israel day parade in new york city on sunday.
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- Zoran mamdani, the mayor of new york city, boycotted the event.
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- Yet the event was a huge success.
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- Still, like it always is.
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- But, mom, donnie's absence.
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- Judge, what does that tell you in a larger sense, about what
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- We're facing right now in america with anti-israel,
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- Anti-semitic sentiment?
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- I think it really leads
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- Back to the arguments made in your book.
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- So thanks for having me again.
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- I think it's really important, you know,
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- Not talking about any particular politician at the time.
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- I just think it's really important
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- To make clear that most americans,
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- The vast majority of whom i have met over the course of my
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- Travels these last three years to almost all 50 states,
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- They don't agree with the anti-israel sentiment
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- That we see on some college campuses.
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- They viscerally understand that the project of america
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- Is intimately tied in with the project
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- And value system of the jewish people.
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- And most of them, i think, recognize
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- That israel is america's most important strategic
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- Ally in the world.
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- You know, all over this country, i have
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- People who work for the navy or for the department of war
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- Coming up to me and saying, judge,
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- You have no idea how right you are.
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- We sell israel a piece of military technology.
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- And by the way, we do sell it to them.
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- And then they do something we couldn't do,
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- Which is that
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- Because we're not at war all the time,
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- And they unfortunately are they battle tested
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- And give us real time assessments
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- Of what it's doing well and what it's doing badly.
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- And then something amazing happens.
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- They tell me a year or two down the road,
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- They give it back to us for free, like a free
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- Research and development lab.
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- And it's ten times better than it was when we sold it to them.
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- Better prepared, better adapted to the 21st century wars
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- That are coming in the geostrategic conflicts
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- In our future.
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- They vote with us over 93% of the time
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- At the united nations, more than any other country.
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- They are our most important geostrategic ally.
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- I think most americans viscerally understand that.
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- And it's on us, those who understand the truth,
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- Those who have seen the truth
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- To get out there with most americans
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- And to show them that israel is the future.
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- That's what modi saw when he traveled from india to sign.
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- I think it was 39 treaties about ai and machine learning
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- And infrastructure.
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- That's what the american military sees
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- With its day to day, shoulder to shoulder stance with israel.
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- We just need to show americans what the truth is.
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- Judge so well said.
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- And i think of israel also standing side by side
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- With the united states
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- Right now as we take on a terror regime in iran and israel
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- Sharing intelligence since 9/11 especially, that's
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- Broken up countless terror plots on american soil.
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- So absolutely well laid out as you do in the book, too.
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- And look, israel on trial, your federal judge, of course.
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- So this is a very unique perspective that you have
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- In making the case
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- For the world's one and only jewish state.
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- Well, let's start with a few claims, judge,
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- One of the claims you tackle in the book
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- Is that israel's very founding was illegitimate.
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- Tell us more about that.
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- The miraculous rebirth of 1948 and how the anti-semitic
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- Forces say they shouldn't even count illegitimate.
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- This is really important because,
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- You know, there is a legal test that the international law
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- States sets out.
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- It comes from the montevideo convention of 1933 to determine
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- Whether a people has become a legitimate nation state.
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- And those four elements are does it have defined borders?
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- Does it have a defined population?
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- Does it have the capacity of conducting foreign relations?
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- And does it have a single effective government?
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- And the fact of the matter is that israel satisfies
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- All four factors of that test today.
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- Obviously, it has defined borders.
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- It has to define people.
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- It has a foreign ministry
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- Totally with the capacity to conduct foreign relations.
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- And it's governed by a single effective government
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- With a prime minister, a knesset,
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- And of course, a supreme court and judicial system.
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- By the way, it's important to note
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- Also that israel has met all four elements of that test
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- Every single second of every single day
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- Of every year since it was founded in 1948.
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- There's no dispute that in 1948 there were defined borders.
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- There was a defined population.
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- There was a single effective government
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- Headed by david david ben-gurion,
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- The first prime minister of israel.
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- And that there was a
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- Forceful foreign ministry headed by moshe
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- Charette, the first foreign minister of israel.
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- One thing to note, though,
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- Is that although 140 odd countries around the world
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- Have recognized a supposed state of palestine,
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- And even though a lot of those 140 countries are the ones
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- Who are claiming that israel's founding was illegitimate,
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- That there is also no dispute that the state of palestine,
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- Which doesn't exist, fails the montevideo test
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- Because it fails two out of the four elements.
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- What are those two elements?
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- First, it absolutely does not have defined borders.
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- And by the way,
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- All of the states, the european states
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- That recognized the supposed state of palestine
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- In 2025, notably in their press releases
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- And thereafter failed to tell us what the supposed state
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- Of palestine's borders look like
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- Because everybody knows that
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- Whatever borders the europeans would be living,
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- Willing to live with,
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- The palestinians themselves would outright reject.
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- We know that from history,
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- Where they have rejected any two state solution
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- At any time when it was offered to them.
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- But second,
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- And more importantly, even if we did create
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- Defined borders for them, which we don't,
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- We know that the supposed state of palestine is not governed
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- By a single government, much less an effective one.
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- Gaza is split into part of its ruled by the israeli government,
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- Which no one would like to see in charge.
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- And the other part is ruled
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- By hamas, a us designated terror organization
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- That all of the 140 states that have recognized
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- The state of palestine have said it can never be in charge
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- Of the palestinian people.
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- And then judea and samaria,
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- The west bank is also a part of it, ruled by israel.
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- And part of it is ruled
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- By a palestinian authority that is corrupt.
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- Judge, such a great break down all around, folks.
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- That's why you must pick up this book.
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- Israel on trial.
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- It's a runaway new york times bestseller written by our good
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- Friend, judge roy altmann.
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- After the break,
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- We're going to dig into history with the judge.
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- Was there a nation of palestine thousands of years ago?
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- What does archeology in israel
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- Tell us about the jewish people's ancient
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- And ancestral claim to the world's one
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- And only jewish state?
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- More with judge roy altmann after the break.
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- Stick around.
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- Stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight
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- We're talking to judge roy altmann, author of the brand
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- New blockbuster bestseller israel on trial.
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- You can pick it up right now, amazon.com.
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- Wherever books are sold, it is a must read in the
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- Subtitle examining the history, the evidence, and the law.
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- Judge, let's dig into the history.
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- Okay, before the break,
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- You broke down israel's legal right to the land,
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- But many critics would say, but israel stole the land.
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- There was a thriving nation
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- State of palestine 3000 2000 years ago.
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- This was arab land.
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- History says otherwise.
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- Your book says otherwise and proves otherwise.
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- Tell us a bit more about that.
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- How the nation of palestine or there is no nation of palestine.
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- But the terminology palestine even came about some 2000
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- Years ago. i'm thinking hadrian, the roman emperor.
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- Yeah, this is really important to understand.
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- And that is that there was never such a thing as palestinians
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- And never such a thing as palestine for thousands
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- Of years of jewish history in the levant, in the land
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- Between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea,
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- The people who lived in govern that land were jews.
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- You don't have to take my word for it.
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- There are three buckets of evidence that are neutral.
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- They are objective.
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- They aren't part of the zionist project.
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- They are found in the ground thousands of years old,
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- Many by archeologists and other historians that are not jewish
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- And had no connection to a future zionism project
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- They never knew would have come about.
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- And i like to put these three buckets into context.
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- One is rocks in the ground.
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- This is archeological evidence going back thousands of years
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- Across multiple levels of the geologic earth,
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- Going back to the year 1205 bc.
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- That's 3200 years ago.
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- The first piece of
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- Archeological evidence is a stele, a large basalt stone
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- Found in egypt, where neptune, the 13th son of ramses,
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- The emperor of all egypt,
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- Says that he brought his egyptian army into
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- Not palestine.
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- No such thing existed at the time into israel,
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- And he fought the king of israel in battle.
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- And he says he defeated him at places like giza
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- And ashkelon, places that are still in the land
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- Of israel today.
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- And by the way, that archeological evidence goes
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- All around the land of israel, as the book
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- Lays out, not just from egypt, but from what today?
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- Jordan.
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- What syria, what's today lebanon, what's today turkey?
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- All of these ancient adversaries of israel.
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- We have found archeological evidence composed by them,
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- Talking about how the land between the jordan river
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- And the mediterranean sea was governed by jews
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- Who spoke hebrew and practiced the jewish religion.
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- Second words on the page documentary proof on papyrus
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- And paper and parchment, again going back thousands of years,
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- Showing that the people who invaded and oftentimes
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- Occupied the land.
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- Assyrians, babylonians, romans, greeks, byzantines
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- And the later muslim invaders, which i'll talk about
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- In a moment.
- 00:11:33.651 --> 00:11:34.919
- They kept detailed records of the people they were subjugating
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- And conquering in the land between the jordan river
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- And the mediterranean sea.
- 00:11:41.425 --> 00:11:42.660
- And they wrote again that those people were jews
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- Who spoke hebrew and practiced the jewish religion.
- 00:11:45.763 --> 00:11:48.833
- And then third, there's dna evidence
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- That's blood in the veins.
- 00:11:50.601 --> 00:11:52.370
- Genetic testing of all the major jewish populations
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- Of the world over the last few decades has confirmed
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- Not only that we're all intimately
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- And genetically connected with one another,
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- But that we all broke off from each other at one time
- 00:12:02.914 --> 00:12:06.818
- About 2000 years ago in the levant,
- 00:12:06.818 --> 00:12:10.087
- In the middle east, the where the land of israel is today.
- 00:12:10.087 --> 00:12:12.924
- In fact, 2000 years ago in 70 a.d..
- 00:12:12.924 --> 00:12:16.627
- If you're doing the math at home, titus of rome,
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- The son of the emperor vespasian,
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- Destroyed the temple in jerusalem
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- And exiled most of the jews of the land of judea,
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- Thus creating the major diaspora populations of the world,
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- Which is now reflected in our dna
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- Through those blood tests.
- 00:12:33.811 --> 00:12:35.379
- But what's really important
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- Is that that's only the first revolt against rome.
- 00:12:36.948 --> 00:12:39.317
- There are two more.
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- And after the third revolt, in 132 to 135 a.d.,
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- It's what's called the bar kokhba revolt
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- After its founder, the leader of the jewish rebels
- 00:12:47.792 --> 00:12:50.628
- Was a man named simon bar kokhba, which is hebrew,
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- Not arabic.
- 00:12:53.865 --> 00:12:54.632
- For simon, son of the star.
- 00:12:54.632 --> 00:12:57.201
- Emperor hadrian in rome crushed the rebellion in 135,
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- Executed hundreds of thousands of jews,
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- According to cassius dio, one of the roman historians.
- 00:13:04.108 --> 00:13:07.411
- And then he made a very interesting decision
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- That reverberates even today.
- 00:13:09.647 --> 00:13:11.749
- He said, you know what?
- 00:13:11.749 --> 00:13:12.783
- These pesky jews have revolted three times now
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- We it's not enough just to kill them.
- 00:13:15.987 --> 00:13:17.955
- We now need to erase their memory from history
- 00:13:17.955 --> 00:13:22.393
- So that future generations
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- Will never remember that there was even such a land as judea,
- 00:13:23.928 --> 00:13:27.732
- Even such a place as jerusalem, even such a country is israel.
- 00:13:27.732 --> 00:13:32.036
- And so he renames jerusalem after burning it to the ground.
- 00:13:32.036 --> 00:13:35.740
- Alia, capital
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- After his own family, the alien family
- 00:13:37.241 --> 00:13:39.410
- From spain and capital lina after jupiter capital, lina's
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- The primary god of the romans,
- 00:13:42.813 --> 00:13:44.615
- And then he renames the entire country of judea,
- 00:13:44.615 --> 00:13:48.252
- Which in hebrew is just land of the jews and literally land.
- 00:13:48.252 --> 00:13:51.889
- Jews builds a pagan temple atop the temple mount,
- 00:13:51.889 --> 00:13:54.892
- Where the temple once stood.
- 00:13:54.892 --> 00:13:56.727
- Correct.
- 00:13:56.727 --> 00:13:57.561
- And he renamed the land palestina
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- After the ancient philistines who had lived in gaza.
- 00:14:00.264 --> 00:14:03.334
- By the way, these aren't ancestors of the palestinians.
- 00:14:03.334 --> 00:14:06.103
- They used to sometimes claim
- 00:14:06.103 --> 00:14:07.571
- They were descended from the philistines.
- 00:14:07.571 --> 00:14:09.307
- They've abandoned that argument because
- 00:14:09.307 --> 00:14:10.942
- We now know the philistines were actually a greek people
- 00:14:10.942 --> 00:14:14.679
- Who spoke not a semitic language,
- 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:16.514
- But an indo-european language like you.
- 00:14:16.514 --> 00:14:18.516
- And i do like greek and latin and german and english.
- 00:14:18.516 --> 00:14:21.118
- They came from the greek islands.
- 00:14:21.118 --> 00:14:22.954
- They conquered gaza,
- 00:14:22.954 --> 00:14:24.522
- And they lived as foreign occupiers in gaza
- 00:14:24.522 --> 00:14:26.590
- And fought many wars against the jewish
- 00:14:26.590 --> 00:14:28.459
- People who were their neighbors,
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- Until they disappeared completely
- 00:14:29.827 --> 00:14:32.163
- From the archeological record about a thousand years
- 00:14:32.163 --> 00:14:36.300
- Before hadrian decided to rename judea after them.
- 00:14:36.300 --> 00:14:40.972
- An ancient people who we know
- 00:14:40.972 --> 00:14:43.441
- He knew would never be a risk of coming back and reclaiming
- 00:14:43.441 --> 00:14:46.777
- The land for themselves.
- 00:14:46.777 --> 00:14:48.012
- I don't think he ever dreamt that he would be this successful
- 00:14:48.012 --> 00:14:52.283
- In erasing the memory of jewish heritage and sovereignty
- 00:14:52.283 --> 00:14:55.653
- Over that land, as he has been on our ivy league campuses.
- 00:14:55.653 --> 00:14:59.323
- Yeah, judge, that's a great breakdown, man.
- 00:14:59.323 --> 00:15:01.192
- We need to do about ten shows with you as you unpack history
- 00:15:01.192 --> 00:15:04.428
- And the legal rights lands. amazing folks.
- 00:15:04.428 --> 00:15:06.397
- Israel on trial.
- 00:15:06.397 --> 00:15:07.398
- Judge beth 30s, left.
- 00:15:07.398 --> 00:15:09.700
- Are you optimistic your book is making a difference?
- 00:15:09.700 --> 00:15:12.803
- Israel is making a difference in the world.
- 00:15:12.803 --> 00:15:14.872
- Are you optimistic that.
- 00:15:14.872 --> 00:15:16.273
- Yeah, we have this anti-semitic wave
- 00:15:16.273 --> 00:15:18.209
- Right now, even here in america. but are you optimistic?
- 00:15:18.209 --> 00:15:20.978
- We're optimistic that things are trending
- 00:15:20.978 --> 00:15:23.414
- In the right direction overall, only about 30s left.
- 00:15:23.414 --> 00:15:26.650
- I'm optimistic because i believe in martin
- 00:15:26.650 --> 00:15:28.953
- Luther king's admonition to the world,
- 00:15:28.953 --> 00:15:31.022
- Which is that the moral arc of history bends towards justice.
- 00:15:31.022 --> 00:15:34.291
- King was, until the day he died, an ardent zionist,
- 00:15:34.291 --> 00:15:37.661
- And he understood what i think all of us understand,
- 00:15:37.661 --> 00:15:40.331
- Which is that the project of america,
- 00:15:40.331 --> 00:15:42.400
- Which is intimately tied in with the judeo-christian
- 00:15:42.400 --> 00:15:45.136
- Values system that forms its core,
- 00:15:45.136 --> 00:15:47.271
- Is the greatest force for good the world has ever known.
- 00:15:47.271 --> 00:15:50.374
- It's the most
- 00:15:50.374 --> 00:15:51.542
- Just and righteous project the world has ever created.
- 00:15:51.542 --> 00:15:54.111
- And so i am optimistic about the future of america
- 00:15:54.111 --> 00:15:57.281
- And optimistic about its closest
- 00:15:57.281 --> 00:15:59.283
- And most important ally in the world,
- 00:15:59.283 --> 00:16:01.419
- The one jewish state in the world,
- 00:16:01.419 --> 00:16:03.120
- The land of israel. judge.
- 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:04.889
- And well said.
- 00:16:04.889 --> 00:16:05.723
- We've also got the god of israel,
- 00:16:05.723 --> 00:16:06.791
- The god of abraham, isaac, and jacob.
- 00:16:06.791 --> 00:16:08.592
- Good things lie ahead. judge walton.
- 00:16:08.592 --> 00:16:10.361
- Great job folks.
- 00:16:10.361 --> 00:16:11.328
- Again, the book is called israel on trial.
- 00:16:11.328 --> 00:16:13.064
- You can pick up right now amazon.com
- 00:16:13.064 --> 00:16:15.132
- Wherever books are sold. judge. keep up the great work.
- 00:16:15.132 --> 00:16:17.301
- We will see you again soon. god bless.
- 00:16:17.301 --> 00:16:18.869
- And up next we talked a bit about this
- 00:16:18.869 --> 00:16:20.871
- Anti-semitic wave and especially among younger generations.
- 00:16:20.871 --> 00:16:24.909
- We're going to break down the cure to that next.
- 00:16:24.909 --> 00:16:28.813
- Stick around.
- 00:16:28.813 --> 00:16:33.003
- Stick around.
- 00:16:33.003 --> 00:16:36.650
- Welcome back
- 00:16:36.983 --> 00:16:37.951
- To stakelbeck tonight, a very disturbing scene
- 00:16:37.951 --> 00:16:40.921
- Unfolding right here
- 00:16:40.921 --> 00:16:42.456
- In the united states on the streets of new york city,
- 00:16:42.456 --> 00:16:45.592
- In the heart of brooklyn's jewish
- 00:16:45.592 --> 00:16:47.527
- Community, outside a synagogue.
- 00:16:47.527 --> 00:16:49.729
- Anti-israel protesters marched through
- 00:16:49.729 --> 00:16:52.332
- A residential neighborhood calling for an intifada,
- 00:16:52.332 --> 00:16:55.669
- Waving a hezbollah flag and shouting, death to the idf,
- 00:16:55.669 --> 00:17:00.807
- Folks, this is happening right now in america.
- 00:17:00.807 --> 00:17:04.010
- Joining us now is david bragg, executive
- 00:17:04.010 --> 00:17:05.779
- Director of the maccabee task force.
- 00:17:05.779 --> 00:17:07.414
- David, great to have you with us.
- 00:17:07.414 --> 00:17:09.082
- Hey, you've been sounding the alarm about this for years,
- 00:17:09.082 --> 00:17:11.418
- And now it's coming
- 00:17:11.418 --> 00:17:12.219
- To frightening
- 00:17:12.219 --> 00:17:13.353
- Fruition in mom danny's new york violent anti-semitism.
- 00:17:13.353 --> 00:17:17.057
- David, on the streets.
- 00:17:17.057 --> 00:17:18.992
- What can be done to push back against this?
- 00:17:18.992 --> 00:17:21.595
- Because it's a growing trend.
- 00:17:21.595 --> 00:17:25.132
- Yeah.
- 00:17:25.365 --> 00:17:26.433
- Erick, you know, you you've been warning about this
- 00:17:26.433 --> 00:17:28.435
- For a long time as well.
- 00:17:28.435 --> 00:17:29.769
- I remember the days when we would see this happening
- 00:17:29.769 --> 00:17:32.572
- On the streets of paris and london,
- 00:17:32.572 --> 00:17:34.808
- And we'd say, we better we better wake up.
- 00:17:34.808 --> 00:17:36.676
- We better take action before it comes here to america.
- 00:17:36.676 --> 00:17:39.312
- Yeah, but we didn't,
- 00:17:39.312 --> 00:17:41.281
- You know,
- 00:17:41.581 --> 00:17:42.482
- Europe allowed immigrants into europe
- 00:17:42.482 --> 00:17:44.918
- Who brought in, this idea of anti-semitism,
- 00:17:44.918 --> 00:17:48.588
- And never abandoned it.
- 00:17:49.089 --> 00:17:51.591
- And we made the same mistake.
- 00:17:51.591 --> 00:17:52.993
- We let muslim immigrants into america
- 00:17:52.993 --> 00:17:55.328
- Who didn't want to assimilate, become americans,
- 00:17:55.328 --> 00:17:57.197
- But who brought foreign ideas like their hatred of jews
- 00:17:57.197 --> 00:18:00.367
- Into our country and now onto our streets.
- 00:18:00.367 --> 00:18:03.436
- And we didn't do anything to stop it.
- 00:18:03.436 --> 00:18:05.305
- And now the
- 00:18:05.305 --> 00:18:06.406
- Political authorities, like mayor mamdani in new york,
- 00:18:06.406 --> 00:18:09.743
- And governors and mayors and other places across america,
- 00:18:09.743 --> 00:18:14.347
- Instead of calling out
- 00:18:14.347 --> 00:18:15.348
- The protesters, mamdani will criticize the event
- 00:18:15.348 --> 00:18:18.451
- That took place within the synagogue.
- 00:18:18.451 --> 00:18:20.787
- The only way to stop this is to make it
- 00:18:20.787 --> 00:18:24.157
- Unacceptable again,
- 00:18:24.157 --> 00:18:25.659
- To draw a bright red line and say, this kind of hate,
- 00:18:25.659 --> 00:18:29.262
- This kind of overt, clear hatred of and hatred of jews
- 00:18:29.262 --> 00:18:33.867
- And glorification of violence
- 00:18:33.867 --> 00:18:35.468
- Against jews is unacceptable in america.
- 00:18:35.468 --> 00:18:37.804
- And that's only going to happen if people who share our values,
- 00:18:37.804 --> 00:18:41.074
- American values demanded speak out.
- 00:18:41.074 --> 00:18:45.278
- And the main body of people in america who shared
- 00:18:45.278 --> 00:18:47.781
- These values are evangelical christians.
- 00:18:47.781 --> 00:18:50.884
- And evangelical christians might sit
- 00:18:50.884 --> 00:18:53.787
- And observe it and criticize it, but it's not enough.
- 00:18:53.787 --> 00:18:57.490
- They've got to get back in the political game.
- 00:18:57.490 --> 00:18:59.960
- Not only do
- 00:18:59.960 --> 00:19:00.927
- We have to confront the hatred of the left,
- 00:19:00.927 --> 00:19:02.729
- We now have to confront the hatred
- 00:19:02.729 --> 00:19:04.364
- That's been emerging on the right.
- 00:19:04.364 --> 00:19:06.266
- David, so well said in a great call to action.
- 00:19:06.266 --> 00:19:08.835
- By the way, you focused a lot on replacement theology.
- 00:19:08.835 --> 00:19:11.738
- We talked about evangelicals.
- 00:19:11.738 --> 00:19:13.106
- I think, of the tucker carlson wing,
- 00:19:13.106 --> 00:19:15.141
- Which used to be the right i don't know what they are
- 00:19:15.141 --> 00:19:17.110
- Now, but really personified by him and candace owens.
- 00:19:17.110 --> 00:19:21.081
- And this claim by them
- 00:19:21.081 --> 00:19:22.682
- And these podcasters that god's done with israel
- 00:19:22.682 --> 00:19:25.685
- And the jewish people.
- 00:19:25.685 --> 00:19:26.953
- What can evangelicals do to push back
- 00:19:26.953 --> 00:19:29.055
- Against this replacement theology madness?
- 00:19:29.055 --> 00:19:31.391
- Because it's growing.
- 00:19:31.391 --> 00:19:32.726
- Got to get back in the gate.
- 00:19:33.326 --> 00:19:34.828
- You know,
- 00:19:34.828 --> 00:19:36.096
- When you and i work together, a christians united for israel,
- 00:19:36.096 --> 00:19:40.267
- We and we.
- 00:19:40.567 --> 00:19:42.168
- This was a time when everyone understood that
- 00:19:42.168 --> 00:19:44.671
- Conservatism in america, the republican party in america,
- 00:19:44.671 --> 00:19:48.608
- Was dominated by the people who provide the votes
- 00:19:48.608 --> 00:19:52.579
- For republican candidates, evangelical christians.
- 00:19:52.579 --> 00:19:56.049
- And that grassroots power was translated
- 00:19:56.049 --> 00:19:58.451
- Into policy in washington.
- 00:19:58.451 --> 00:20:00.220
- But now that grassroots power isn't being translated
- 00:20:00.220 --> 00:20:03.089
- Into political power anymore.
- 00:20:03.089 --> 00:20:04.624
- The debate has moved from the grassroots online.
- 00:20:04.624 --> 00:20:07.327
- It's moved from evangelicals that, you know, in america
- 00:20:07.327 --> 00:20:11.197
- To to this sort of new combination
- 00:20:11.197 --> 00:20:14.601
- Of people
- 00:20:14.901 --> 00:20:16.303
- Who converted to catholicism very recently in some cases,
- 00:20:16.303 --> 00:20:20.173
- Or people who claim to be protestants
- 00:20:20.173 --> 00:20:22.642
- And brag about having just read the bible
- 00:20:22.642 --> 00:20:24.778
- For the first time in their lives, like tucker carlson,
- 00:20:24.778 --> 00:20:27.247
- Which people who don't really understand
- 00:20:27.247 --> 00:20:29.449
- The christian faith they claim to represent,
- 00:20:29.449 --> 00:20:32.085
- And they're bringing these new and very foreign ideas
- 00:20:32.085 --> 00:20:34.688
- Into our politics, claiming they're american, claiming
- 00:20:34.688 --> 00:20:37.390
- They're a christian when they are neither.
- 00:20:37.390 --> 00:20:39.459
- We need to demand that the policies of the republican party
- 00:20:39.459 --> 00:20:44.230
- Mirror the priorities of evangelical christians,
- 00:20:44.230 --> 00:20:47.334
- And we need to demand that our leaders condemn those
- 00:20:47.334 --> 00:20:50.136
- Who cross the line into anti-semitism and hatred.
- 00:20:50.136 --> 00:20:53.540
- It's been good to see president trump
- 00:20:53.540 --> 00:20:55.308
- Distance himself from tucker carlson, you know,
- 00:20:56.242 --> 00:20:58.378
- Criticize tucker carlson.
- 00:20:58.378 --> 00:20:59.946
- It's a beginning, though. it's not the end.
- 00:20:59.946 --> 00:21:01.481
- Hey, last question about 40s left.
- 00:21:01.481 --> 00:21:03.817
- Tell us more about the maccabee task force,
- 00:21:03.817 --> 00:21:05.919
- The great work you're doing on
- 00:21:05.919 --> 00:21:07.587
- A lot of levels, david, but in particular the
- 00:21:07.587 --> 00:21:09.422
- Battle back against, boycott, divest from and sanction israel
- 00:21:09.422 --> 00:21:13.159
- That bds movement.
- 00:21:13.159 --> 00:21:14.294
- There is this false anti-israel narrative that dominates
- 00:21:14.294 --> 00:21:18.398
- The progressive left in america
- 00:21:18.398 --> 00:21:19.899
- And is increasingly becoming popular on the right in america.
- 00:21:19.899 --> 00:21:24.003
- And the one thing we found is there is an antidote
- 00:21:24.003 --> 00:21:26.239
- To that false narrative. it's the truth.
- 00:21:26.239 --> 00:21:28.842
- And so what we do more than anything else
- 00:21:28.842 --> 00:21:32.245
- Is we bring student leaders
- 00:21:32.245 --> 00:21:34.647
- To israel and the palestinian territories
- 00:21:34.647 --> 00:21:37.450
- To see it all for themselves, because we are confident
- 00:21:37.450 --> 00:21:40.954
- That anyone who sees the reality on the ground in israel,
- 00:21:40.954 --> 00:21:44.724
- In the pa, will understand that
- 00:21:44.724 --> 00:21:47.660
- That false narrative of the left and increasingly the right.
- 00:21:47.660 --> 00:21:50.764
- Yeah, is exactly that.
- 00:21:50.764 --> 00:21:52.332
- A false narrative lies about israel.
- 00:21:52.332 --> 00:21:54.367
- The truth about israel is our most potent weapon.
- 00:21:54.367 --> 00:21:57.470
- And ultimately,
- 00:21:57.470 --> 00:21:58.671
- I think people need to realize that one side's going to try
- 00:21:58.671 --> 00:22:01.474
- To keep you from seeing the truth.
- 00:22:01.474 --> 00:22:02.876
- They're going to spread these lies
- 00:22:02.876 --> 00:22:04.110
- And hope you don't bother
- 00:22:04.110 --> 00:22:05.512
- To do your own research or reading the other side.
- 00:22:05.512 --> 00:22:08.014
- The pro-israel side is always going to say,
- 00:22:08.014 --> 00:22:10.150
- Let's have these debates, let's have these discussions,
- 00:22:10.150 --> 00:22:12.285
- Because ultimately, the truth and the facts vindicate israel.
- 00:22:12.285 --> 00:22:15.455
- And vindicate the jewish and christian support for israel.
- 00:22:15.455 --> 00:22:19.993
- Amen. david. great stuff folks.
- 00:22:19.993 --> 00:22:21.995
- Be sure to follow david and the maccabee task
- 00:22:21.995 --> 00:22:23.797
- Force on x and across social media.
- 00:22:23.797 --> 00:22:25.899
- David. great stuff my friend. keep up the great work.
- 00:22:25.899 --> 00:22:27.867
- We'll see you again soon. god bless.
- 00:22:27.867 --> 00:22:29.602
- And coming up next, my final thoughts.
- 00:22:29.602 --> 00:22:32.739
- Don't move.
- 00:22:32.739 --> 00:22:36.001
- Don't move.
- 00:22:36.001 --> 00:22:39.480
- Come back to stack.
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- Come back tonight folks.
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- As wrap up here, what great conversations
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- With judge roy altman and david broder
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- Doing incredible work in defense of israel.
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- But at the end of the day,
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- It all boils down to what god almighty says the god of israel.
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- I always go back to the book of amos, chapter nine, verse 15,
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- God says, i will plant israel in their own land.
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- Never again.
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- He point there never again to be uprooted from the land.
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- I have given them, says the lord your god.
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- It's pretty non-negotiable.
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- There's really no gray areas there.
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- God has planted
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- Israel in the land, and they are there for ever.
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- So take heart.
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- Hey, tomorrow night, great show coming.
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- Much more here all week on stackelberg tonight.
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- Until then, god bless you and we'll see you soon.
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