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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: Advocating for Isreal | Stakelbeck Tonight | May 5, 2026
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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- I'm erick stakelbeck and we are in washington, d.c.
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- For the annual israel advocacy day.
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- Now why is this day necessary?
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- Well, folks, if you think about it,
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- There is one thing that the three devious factions right
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- Now, the radical marxist left, the radical right,
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- What used to be the right,
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- At least led by tucker carlson, candace owens
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- And radical islamists.
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- One thing is varying far flung ideologies all can agree on
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- Is they despise israel and the jewish people and
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- The bible believing christians who stand with israel.
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- And the hatred is intensifying against the backdrop,
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- Of course, of israel facing a seven front war of the us
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- Right now, battling iran's terror regime.
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- That's why
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- This day is so necessary to push back against the hatred
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- That has been growing, ironically enough,
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- Since october 7th, 2023.
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- You would think that vicious terror attack by hamas
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- Would cause an outpouring of support for israel
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- And the jewish people, but sadly, in many cases,
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- It's been quite the opposite.
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- That's why our good friends at eagle's
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- Wings, led by bishop robert stearns,
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- The israel allies foundation, led by jordan macmillan,
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- And the international christian embassy in jerusalem,
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- Represented here by our good friend susan michael.
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- They've come together for this very special event
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- You'll see
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- Leading throughout the week here on the show, leading pastors,
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- Rabbis and commentators, pro-israel voices
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- Who are bringing you
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- The truth in a time where truth is at a premium
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- When it comes to israel and the jewish people.
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- Up first, judge roy altmann, author
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- Of a great new book called israel on trial, folks.
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- He's got a lot to say,
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- Not only about the geopolitical necessity of israel, but
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- Israel's legal basis to exist.
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- And it all starts now.
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- With.
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- We are here with the author of the brand
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- New blockbuster israel on trial, judge roy altmann.
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- Great to see my friend and ian israel on trial.
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- You get into the legal case for the world's one
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- And only jewish state.
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- Tell us a bit more about a judge.
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- Look, israel.
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- We say ancient, ancestral right to land.
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- We can go on about that.
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- But there's also a legal right
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- That people may not know as much about.
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- Break that down a bit for us. yeah.
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- So first of all, thank you for having me.
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- You know, in my travels around the country
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- And churches and synagogues and college campuses all over
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- These 50 states in the last three years,
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- I've come to recognize that there really are six main claims
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- That people bandy about that are at the core of the debate
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- About israel.
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- And each of those six claims, actually,
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- If you pull back all the emotion and all the diatribe,
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- They're actually legal claims at their heart.
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- And so i thought, you know,
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- Why not just apply the same legal methodology
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- That judges, lawyers and juries have been applying
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- In every courtroom and city across this country?
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- It's a time tested methodology
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- We've been using for hundreds of years,
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- And we know we trust it because we use it
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- Where truth telling matters the most in our courtrooms,
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- Where someone's life is at stake,
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- And then apply it to each of these six claims
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- And see what happens.
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- And that's why
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- It's called israel on trial, because we put israel on trial.
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- Six chapters, six claims each chapter gets a claim.
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- We apply the relevant
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- Legal methodology, we produce the facts,
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- And then we issue a verdict one way or the other.
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- We hear a lot about a palestinian state,
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- But you write in the book
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- That they really don't have that legal claim.
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- The palestinians to the land.
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- Talk more about that, because that's a key issue.
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- This is a really important point,
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- Because one of the
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- Subthemes of the book, i say, is that each of the six claims
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- About israel genocide, apartheid, colonialism
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- Actually is a thing that's happening in the middle east.
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- It's just not being done by jews.
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- It's being done to the jews.
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- So each of the claims is actually like a mirror
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- Being held up to jewish suffering so as to that point,
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- There's no doubt that israel is a legitimate nation state.
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- That's one of the myths.
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- People call it illegitimate,
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- But it meets and has met since it was founded in 1947.
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- All four of the elements that international law outlines
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- For the creation of a legitimate nation states.
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- Those come to us from the montevideo convention of 1933.
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- Does it have a defined population? yes.
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- Does it have defined borders? yes.
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- Does it have the capacity of conducting foreign relations?
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- It always has.
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- Always will.
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- And does it have a single effective government?
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- Yes it has.
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- On the other hand,
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- The state that over 140 countries around the world
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- Have seen fit to recognize in the last few years.
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- The supposed state of palestine doesn't meet
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- At least two of those four elements, because, first of all,
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- It doesn't have defined borders.
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- In fact,
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- All of the recent european states that have recognized it
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- Have refused notably to to say
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- What its borders are because they know that doesn't have any.
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- But second, and more importantly,
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- It doesn't have one government, much less an effective one.
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- Gaza is being run partly by hamas, partly by israel.
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- Judea and samaria is being run
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- Partly by the palestinian authority,
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- Who the palestinians themselves have said they don't want,
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- And partly by israel.
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- So it doesn't meet the montevideo test.
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- Was that one of the motivations judged to write this book,
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- Especially after october
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- 7th, where you think there would be an outpouring of support
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- For israel and the jewish people?
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- In many cases, it's been the opposite,
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- Especially in the western world of all places.
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- And it's under siege
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- By what should be its allies, its natural allies.
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- Absolutely.
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- The world needs a strong and sane and morally clear america.
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- And the problem i saw after october 7th
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- Is that history has taught us that societies that persecute
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- The jews are societies that are sick and dying.
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- Look at the rush of kitchen eve in 1903.
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- 14 years later, it was gone.
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- Look at the nazi germany of 1938, of kristallnacht.
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- Seven years later, it was dead.
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- So not because i'm jewish, but because i'm first and foremost
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- An american
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- Who loves this country and understands
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- That all of us have been bequeathed to us,
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- This judeo-christian civilization
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- And all of its blessings.
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- I believe that we have a moral obligation to root out
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- This jew hatred whenever and wherever it appears, because
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- It's the moral rot in the wooden framework of our house.
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- And if we're not careful, it'll bring the whole house
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- Tumbling down on all of us, not just our jews.
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- Israel and the us, right now, side by side
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- And taking on the world's number one
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- State sponsor of terrorism.
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- The iranian regime, to you, judges, is to strengthen
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- The case, in terms of why americans should support israel.
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- Look where europe
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- Is taking a pass
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- And all of our traditional allies
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- In confronting this existential threat, the iranian regime,
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- Which could have had nuclear weapons.
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- Israel has stepped up and has answered the call.
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- We see this all the time.
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- Our geostrategic enemies china, iran, north korea and russia,
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- They're looking at our side
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- Of the 50 yard line, to use a football analogy.
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- And they're saying, who should we be afraid of over there?
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- Well, the united states, that's a big, bad enemy,
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- The most powerful army that's ever existed.
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- But who's going to stand with america
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- In the geostrategic struggle that's coming?
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- I don't think they're all that afraid of the belgians
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- Or the irish or the spaniards, but they do see a nation,
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- A western, pluralistic, religiously free democracy
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- That is willing
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- To fight and die for the judeo-christian civilization
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- We all believe in, and that's israel.
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- And so should we be
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- At all surprised that all of the negative and misinformation
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- We see about a foreign ally on our tiktok feeds
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- And on the news are about that one vital geostrategic ally?
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- Yeah.
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- Which is the size of the state of new jersey, by the way.
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- And i think it's
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- 0.01% of the world's entire population is jewish.
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- And yet the jewish people, the state of israel, are blamed
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- For all of the world's ills.
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- That's why your book, judge
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- Roy altmann, is so important, folks.
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- It's called israel on trial.
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- You can pick it up right
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- Now, amazon.com, wherever books are sold.
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- Coming up, more with judge roy altmann.
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- Are the jewish people in israel right now
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- The real descendants of the ancient israelites?
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- We'll break that down with roy altmann after the break.
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- Stick around.
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- Stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight
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- We are here at the israel advocacy day in washington, dc.
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- We're talking to judge roy
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- Altmann, author of the brand new blockbuster israel on trial.
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- Folks, this is a must read for such a time as this.
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- It goes without saying and judge,
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- I've been struck in recent months.
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- We've heard podcasters and different people on social media
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- Suggesting that the jewish people
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- Who live in the state of israel today are not descendants
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- Of the original jewish people.
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- The original israelites who live there say 2000, even
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- 3000, 3500 years ago.
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- And even tucker carlson has called on the jews in israel
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- To take dna tests.
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- But you've broken down that. hey, wait a minute.
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- We've been there, done that.
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- And these are the descendants of the biblical israel.
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- Talk more about that.
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- I think it's a really important point.
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- As my book lays out,
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- There have been dozens of genetic studies done
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- On every major jewish population around the world in the last
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- Few decades
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- The syrian jewish population, the yemenite, the moroccans,
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- The ashkenazi jews of europe, the sephardic jews of north
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- Africa, south american and north american populations,
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- The jews in israel,
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- And of course, iranian and iraqi jewish populations.
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- And all of these studies have shown
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- Not only that all the major jewish populations in the world
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- Are intimately genetically related to one another,
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- But that we all come back from one place,
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- And that's the middle east, the levant, 2000 years ago.
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- Now, the claim that you're talking about
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- Is called the khazar conspiracy.
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- It is a flat out conspiracy theory,
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- And like any good conspiracy theory at its core,
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- There is a little grain of truth.
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- And so i think it's important to talk about what that is.
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- In the year 805, the king of a khazar empire.
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- These are turkish tribesmen
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- Who lived in what is now ukraine.
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- They're from the central asian steppe.
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- He became enamored with the ancient hebrew bible,
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- And he did, in fact convert to judaism
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- And then either force converted or compelled his subjects
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- In the khazar empire in ukraine to convert as well.
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- Now, the issue with the khazar conspiracy theory
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- Is mainly three fold.
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- The first issue, as i just said, is that the dna evidence
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- Bears out that all of the jewish populations in the world
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- Are related to one another and come from israel.
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- The second is that we have now done a genetic study,
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- One done by doctor gil asman, that tested khazar descendants
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- Against modern jewish descendants and found
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- That they are not, in fact related.
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- And the third and most important problem,
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- Or maybe they're all three are equally important,
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- Is that even if you accept the khazar conspiracy
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- And say,
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- Okay, the jews of eastern europe are themselves not descended
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- From the ancient israelites,
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- That still leaves the vast majority of the world's
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- Jews and israel's jews, who are not european
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- By the ascendancy. including in israel itself.
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- The majority are sephardic or mizrahi
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- Jews from places like you said iran, iraq, yemen, morocco.
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- We can go on israel, the most diverse
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- Place in the world, by the way, jerusalem
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- And jews of every shade from every nation background.
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- It's amazing.
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- And as you said, just a seamless line.
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- Judge from the ancient israelites
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- To the jewish people today in the land of israel,
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- It's amazing.
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- Only god, in my opinion, can do that. amen.
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- Hey, speaking of which, this event, israel advocacy
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- Day, it's an incredible alliance here.
- 00:12:08.550 --> 00:12:11.653
- Shoulder to shoulder.
- 00:12:11.653 --> 00:12:13.655
- Jews and christians speaking up with one voice for israel.
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- Why is it so important to you
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- To be part of an event like this?
- 00:12:19.594 --> 00:12:21.062
- This is the most important thing
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- That i've seen over the last three years.
- 00:12:22.730 --> 00:12:24.465
- You know, after october 7th, maybe 2 or 3 nights later,
- 00:12:24.465 --> 00:12:28.269
- My wife and i hadn't slept at all.
- 00:12:28.269 --> 00:12:30.371
- Look over at her and she said to me, how is it
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- That 80 years after the holocaust,
- 00:12:33.775 --> 00:12:36.611
- We jews are still all alone?
- 00:12:36.611 --> 00:12:39.681
- And then something amazing
- 00:12:40.248 --> 00:12:41.583
- Happened over the next few days and weeks and months.
- 00:12:41.583 --> 00:12:45.653
- We proved that we weren't alone because first dozens
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- And then by the end, hundreds and thousands of our non-jewish
- 00:12:50.825 --> 00:12:54.629
- Friends around this country
- 00:12:54.629 --> 00:12:56.197
- Reached out to see that they stood
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- Shoulder to shoulder with the jewish people,
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- That they stood shoulder to shoulder with us,
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- That they stood shoulder to shoulder
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- With the one jewish state in the world.
- 00:13:04.038 --> 00:13:06.140
- And by the way, that is an unbreakable bond.
- 00:13:06.140 --> 00:13:09.244
- So true.
- 00:13:09.244 --> 00:13:10.945
- Another question about the legal case for israel.
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- How do you combat because even the u.n.
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- And international and world bodies
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- Get involved in this pile on on israel,
- 00:13:18.319 --> 00:13:20.521
- And they try to do it from a legal perspective, i guess.
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- What would your answer be to them?
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- There's the veneer of credibility,
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- I guess, with the u.n.
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- And these different world bodies.
- 00:13:28.229 --> 00:13:29.631
- Have you battled back against them as well?
- 00:13:29.631 --> 00:13:31.299
- Remember, these are entities that were created
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- In many cases in the wake of the holocaust.
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- It was a manifestation of the idea,
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- Spoken out loud by the rest of the world,
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- That we will never again allow a true genocide
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- Against the jews.
- 00:13:47.348 --> 00:13:48.583
- And now to have those same organizations
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- Turn their backs on the one jewish state in the world,
- 00:13:50.752 --> 00:13:53.855
- Which is responding to a war it didn't start
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- And never wanted by a genocidal entity.
- 00:13:57.425 --> 00:14:00.194
- That means in its own charter to destroy the jewish state
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- And kill every last you in it is the ultimate treason.
- 00:14:03.331 --> 00:14:06.668
- But what you should know
- 00:14:06.668 --> 00:14:08.002
- Is that a lot of what happens in these so-called
- 00:14:08.002 --> 00:14:11.005
- International courts is really just politics.
- 00:14:11.005 --> 00:14:13.775
- The people on the courts are delegates
- 00:14:13.775 --> 00:14:16.577
- That are sent as judges by countries,
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- And they are beholden to their country's view
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- About what the particular issue is.
- 00:14:22.550 --> 00:14:24.485
- So the chinese judge, is it any surprise,
- 00:14:24.485 --> 00:14:27.588
- As the geostrategic enemy of the united states,
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- With israel as america's most important ally,
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- That he's going to vote every time against israel?
- 00:14:33.127 --> 00:14:35.596
- Same thing with the russian judge.
- 00:14:35.596 --> 00:14:37.398
- Same thing with the lebanese judge.
- 00:14:37.398 --> 00:14:39.133
- Well, until recently.
- 00:14:39.133 --> 00:14:40.635
- And so what you get is
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- You get a lot of judges who are placed there,
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- Who come from geostrategic enemies,
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- Not just of israel, not even necessarily of israel,
- 00:14:46.174 --> 00:14:49.010
- But of ours of the united states.
- 00:14:49.010 --> 00:14:51.079
- And their votes match that geostrategic reality
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- Accordingly.
- 00:14:54.115 --> 00:14:54.916
- Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
- 00:14:54.916 --> 00:14:56.150
- You lay it all out in the book, judge. last question.
- 00:14:56.150 --> 00:14:58.486
- You're living the american dream.
- 00:14:58.486 --> 00:14:59.854
- As you said. your family left venezuela.
- 00:14:59.854 --> 00:15:01.522
- You're a district judge now.
- 00:15:01.522 --> 00:15:02.490
- You've been a federal prosecutor.
- 00:15:02.490 --> 00:15:03.558
- Talk more about
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- Your journey here in america and why this country
- 00:15:04.592 --> 00:15:07.395
- Means so much to you.
- 00:15:07.395 --> 00:15:08.262
- And as a jew who can live here freely
- 00:15:08.262 --> 00:15:10.131
- And prosper here in the united states.
- 00:15:10.131 --> 00:15:11.632
- You know, when i was a little boy,
- 00:15:11.632 --> 00:15:13.234
- All of our family vacations were the same summers
- 00:15:13.234 --> 00:15:16.070
- We would go to israel
- 00:15:16.070 --> 00:15:17.372
- And winter break, we would travel all around
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- The american south.
- 00:15:19.640 --> 00:15:21.009
- One day we were at chattanooga and it started to snow.
- 00:15:21.009 --> 00:15:24.479
- And i didn't see a lot of snow when i was a kid
- 00:15:24.479 --> 00:15:26.247
- In miami, venezuela, israel, you know?
- 00:15:26.247 --> 00:15:28.483
- So i said, oh, this is so beautiful to my dad.
- 00:15:28.483 --> 00:15:30.618
- And he said, beautiful.
- 00:15:30.618 --> 00:15:32.053
- You think we bring you here because it's beautiful?
- 00:15:32.053 --> 00:15:34.422
- He goes, we bring you here.
- 00:15:34.422 --> 00:15:35.790
- So you understand the character of the country.
- 00:15:35.790 --> 00:15:38.393
- We brought you to.
- 00:15:38.393 --> 00:15:39.694
- This is a country where 600,000 men gave their lives
- 00:15:39.694 --> 00:15:45.066
- So that a part of the country who were slaves could be free.
- 00:15:45.066 --> 00:15:49.003
- He said that is the level of dedication and devotion
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- That a free and fair democracy requires.
- 00:15:52.640 --> 00:15:55.176
- And i believe that with every fiber of my being
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- And i will serve this country until the day i die.
- 00:15:57.678 --> 00:16:00.915
- God bless. judge.
- 00:16:00.915 --> 00:16:02.050
- And the book is called again, folks, israel on trial.
- 00:16:02.050 --> 00:16:04.719
- Pick it up right now, amazon.com
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- Wherever books are sold, coming
- 00:16:06.287 --> 00:16:07.588
- Up, more from israel advocacy day here in d.c..
- 00:16:07.588 --> 00:16:10.691
- Bishop robert stern's an old friend is joining us.
- 00:16:10.691 --> 00:16:13.461
- That's next. don't move.
- 00:16:13.461 --> 00:16:18.001
- That's next. don't move.
- 00:16:18.001 --> 00:16:20.734
- We'll come back to stakelbeck tonight.
- 00:16:21.535 --> 00:16:23.170
- He's a founder
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- And executive director of eagle's wings international.
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- Bishop robert stearns is here.
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- Israel advocacy day bishop, this has become an institution
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- In d.c..
- 00:16:32.679 --> 00:16:33.780
- You're heading this up every year for eagle's wings.
- 00:16:33.780 --> 00:16:35.649
- And i think this year in particular, as the u.s.
- 00:16:35.649 --> 00:16:38.585
- And israel are lined shoulder to shoulder
- 00:16:38.585 --> 00:16:40.654
- Against the world's number one state
- 00:16:40.654 --> 00:16:42.122
- Sponsor of terrorism, the iranian regime.
- 00:16:42.122 --> 00:16:44.391
- I think the timing of this event is very important because
- 00:16:44.391 --> 00:16:48.562
- Israel and bible believing christians who support
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- Israel are coming increasingly under fire in this time of war.
- 00:16:51.598 --> 00:16:55.469
- Bishop, talk more about the time
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- We're in right now and the timing of this event.
- 00:16:57.137 --> 00:16:59.873
- You know,
- 00:16:59.873 --> 00:17:01.141
- I love the name israel advocacy day
- 00:17:01.141 --> 00:17:03.076
- Because we stand in solidarity with america's
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- Greatest ally in the middle east, the state of israel.
- 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.749
- But there's a part of me that says,
- 00:17:09.749 --> 00:17:11.451
- You know, we almost need a subbrand
- 00:17:11.451 --> 00:17:13.386
- Because this really is about western civilization
- 00:17:13.386 --> 00:17:17.224
- As we know it.
- 00:17:17.224 --> 00:17:17.858
- It's about human
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- Freedoms, human values, the judeo-christian way of life.
- 00:17:19.392 --> 00:17:23.463
- I have the privilege of being friends with dozens
- 00:17:23.463 --> 00:17:26.933
- And dozens of persian families who escaped iran,
- 00:17:26.933 --> 00:17:30.403
- Of so many christian families who escaped lebanon.
- 00:17:30.403 --> 00:17:34.641
- All around our world, radical islam has terrorized
- 00:17:34.641 --> 00:17:39.546
- Is murdering people in real time across africa
- 00:17:39.546 --> 00:17:43.383
- And now in america.
- 00:17:43.383 --> 00:17:44.584
- They've come into collusion
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- With the far left, with with marxist forces
- 00:17:45.886 --> 00:17:49.289
- That genuinely want to
- 00:17:49.289 --> 00:17:51.124
- Disintegrate and destroy america as we know it.
- 00:17:51.124 --> 00:17:54.995
- So as we gather here in dc,
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- Yes, of course,
- 00:17:57.998 --> 00:17:59.466
- Every jewish person in america should feel safe,
- 00:17:59.466 --> 00:18:02.569
- As should every person in america of any minority,
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- Of any background.
- 00:18:05.705 --> 00:18:07.107
- Being in america means
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- You should be able to live in safety and freedom.
- 00:18:08.208 --> 00:18:11.678
- But beyond fighting anti-semitism
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- And beyond our alliance with the state of israel,
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- This is a clarion call to americans,
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- Christian americans, yes, but to americans.
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- Wake up.
- 00:18:22.589 --> 00:18:23.757
- There really are bad guys
- 00:18:23.757 --> 00:18:25.625
- Who are out to destroy our nation and our way of.
- 00:18:25.625 --> 00:18:28.228
- Life, getting increasingly
- 00:18:28.228 --> 00:18:29.763
- Their grouping in
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- Not only israel and the jewish people,
- 00:18:30.664 --> 00:18:32.299
- But christians who support israel.
- 00:18:32.299 --> 00:18:35.135
- Have you seen that trend now?
- 00:18:35.135 --> 00:18:36.770
- It used to be, okay, we support israel, but we're not jewish.
- 00:18:36.770 --> 00:18:39.472
- But now we're also feeling the blowback
- 00:18:39.472 --> 00:18:41.408
- As bible believing christians
- 00:18:41.408 --> 00:18:43.243
- Who stand with the nation of israel at a time
- 00:18:43.243 --> 00:18:45.445
- Where much of the world is turning against israel.
- 00:18:45.445 --> 00:18:48.615
- I not only see it, but, several weeks ago,
- 00:18:48.615 --> 00:18:53.053
- There were
- 00:18:53.353 --> 00:18:54.387
- Active death threats put out against me online.
- 00:18:54.387 --> 00:18:56.957
- They took pictures of my house.
- 00:18:56.957 --> 00:18:58.458
- They took my address.
- 00:18:58.458 --> 00:18:59.626
- They took the names of my three children,
- 00:18:59.626 --> 00:19:01.928
- Put everything online and called for me to be eliminated.
- 00:19:01.928 --> 00:19:05.632
- And we had to put in a whole massive security system.
- 00:19:05.632 --> 00:19:08.868
- And all of this, and,
- 00:19:09.369 --> 00:19:10.837
- It was it came off of a speech that i gave in miami.
- 00:19:10.837 --> 00:19:14.674
- There was nothing in that speech that was inflammatory.
- 00:19:14.674 --> 00:19:17.244
- That was angering.
- 00:19:17.244 --> 00:19:19.479
- We are here about peace, and yet we really are dealing
- 00:19:19.479 --> 00:19:23.750
- With a level of mob mentality right now
- 00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:27.854
- That the algorithm is, accelerating.
- 00:19:27.854 --> 00:19:31.858
- The algorithm is seeking to divide this nation,
- 00:19:31.858 --> 00:19:36.596
- And it's doing it through fear.
- 00:19:36.596 --> 00:19:38.498
- It's doing it through accusation.
- 00:19:38.498 --> 00:19:40.267
- It's doing it through misinformation.
- 00:19:40.267 --> 00:19:42.068
- So i experienced that personally.
- 00:19:42.068 --> 00:19:44.204
- And that's why we've had to have security everywhere.
- 00:19:44.204 --> 00:19:46.706
- If this event.
- 00:19:46.706 --> 00:19:47.841
- Bishop, we are so sorry to hear that.
- 00:19:47.841 --> 00:19:49.342
- Number one. and number two, you see the incitement online.
- 00:19:49.342 --> 00:19:51.778
- You mentioned algorithms,
- 00:19:51.778 --> 00:19:53.280
- Podcasters, social media, these slanders.
- 00:19:53.280 --> 00:19:56.850
- At first it was israel and the jewish people.
- 00:19:56.850 --> 00:19:58.685
- Now it's turned,
- 00:19:58.685 --> 00:20:00.186
- Along with bible believing christians
- 00:20:00.186 --> 00:20:02.889
- And the biblical mandate to support israel.
- 00:20:02.889 --> 00:20:05.025
- That's under fire.
- 00:20:05.025 --> 00:20:06.126
- And that's why it's so important that you're here in dc
- 00:20:06.126 --> 00:20:08.528
- For this event this week. bishop, talk more about that.
- 00:20:08.528 --> 00:20:11.064
- The importance to get in the ears of lawmakers,
- 00:20:11.064 --> 00:20:13.600
- Of their staffs, to advocate for israel in these times.
- 00:20:13.600 --> 00:20:17.971
- As we've built.
- 00:20:17.971 --> 00:20:19.172
- Eric, i've said we want to build the largest tent possible.
- 00:20:19.172 --> 00:20:23.476
- It was a great british, writer named melanie phillips.
- 00:20:23.476 --> 00:20:27.080
- She and i had lunch recently, and she said, bishop, she said,
- 00:20:27.080 --> 00:20:29.983
- We have to build the largest coalition in human history.
- 00:20:29.983 --> 00:20:34.220
- We have to build the coalition of common sense,
- 00:20:34.220 --> 00:20:37.590
- Common decency, common values, common sense.
- 00:20:37.590 --> 00:20:40.560
- And so,
- 00:20:40.560 --> 00:20:41.795
- Yes, there are christians and jews at this event,
- 00:20:41.795 --> 00:20:43.730
- But there are christians and jews from all denominations,
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- From all races.
- 00:20:47.200 --> 00:20:48.268
- There are democrats, republicans.
- 00:20:48.268 --> 00:20:50.537
- At last year we had, senator cory booker
- 00:20:50.537 --> 00:20:53.740
- And we had speaker of the house mike johnson.
- 00:20:53.740 --> 00:20:55.508
- We are very intentional that these are about human values.
- 00:20:55.508 --> 00:20:59.446
- This is not about politicizing a moment.
- 00:20:59.446 --> 00:21:02.415
- This is about fighting for core human values.
- 00:21:02.415 --> 00:21:06.753
- So of course, we rejoice that, the long lost brothers, right,
- 00:21:06.753 --> 00:21:10.557
- That the jews and the christians are finding one other.
- 00:21:10.557 --> 00:21:12.592
- That's fantastic. that's wonderful.
- 00:21:12.592 --> 00:21:14.561
- But we welcome people of all faiths, of all backgrounds
- 00:21:14.561 --> 00:21:19.332
- Who say we want to live under the rule of law.
- 00:21:19.332 --> 00:21:22.736
- That has been such a part of the american dream.
- 00:21:22.736 --> 00:21:26.439
- That's why immigrants come to america,
- 00:21:26.439 --> 00:21:28.575
- Because they're escaping the tyranny
- 00:21:28.575 --> 00:21:30.744
- Of a venezuela, or places where there is not the kind
- 00:21:30.744 --> 00:21:33.780
- Of freedom that we have here.
- 00:21:33.780 --> 00:21:35.782
- So doing that and then
- 00:21:36.249 --> 00:21:37.417
- Going to the hill and saying to our lawmakers, listen,
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- These basic american values are important to us.
- 00:21:41.588 --> 00:21:46.092
- Every community should feel safe in america.
- 00:21:46.092 --> 00:21:48.328
- Houses of worship should not be attacked.
- 00:21:48.328 --> 00:21:50.530
- I don't want any house of worship attacked in america.
- 00:21:50.530 --> 00:21:53.533
- And we have to fight for what my friend
- 00:21:53.533 --> 00:21:56.269
- Marc gerson calls, the principal dissenter.
- 00:21:56.269 --> 00:21:59.305
- Right?
- 00:21:59.305 --> 00:22:00.006
- We have to fight for this place
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- That we treat one another with, with respect
- 00:22:01.307 --> 00:22:04.043
- And genuine civility.
- 00:22:04.043 --> 00:22:05.412
- Even if we have disagreements on different issues.
- 00:22:05.412 --> 00:22:08.681
- Bishop. thank you. we appreciate it. great stuff.
- 00:22:08.681 --> 00:22:10.650
- God bless.
- 00:22:10.650 --> 00:22:11.551
- Brother. yeah, we'll see you again soon.
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- And coming up after the break,
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- My final thoughts from here in dc.
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- Stick around.
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- Stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight we are wrapping up
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- From the israel advocacy day here in washington, dc.
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- And folks, a foundational verse.
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- Genesis 12 three god says to abraham
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- About his descendants, the people of israel,
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- I will bless those who bless you, and i will curse those who
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- Curse you.
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- History bears it out very clearly.
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- I don't see the babylonians, the philistines,
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- Haymon, pharaoh or the nazis any more around any place.
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- But i do see the people
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- Of israel reviving their ancient and ancestral homeland
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- In 1948, in what can only be described as a miraculous event.
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- Thankfully, amid all the hatred and the blowback,
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- The people here tonight, the israel advocacy event
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- Israel advocacy day realized israel's special role
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- Not only biblically but geopolitically
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- And as a great partner
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- With the united states of america
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- And the christian community here.
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- So much more from this great event here
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- At the israel advocacy day all this week.
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- Interviews from dc.
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- It's going to be good until tomorrow night.
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- God bless you and we'll see you soon.
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