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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: August 21, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight | August 21, 2025
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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- I'm erick stakelbeck and they said it was fascism,
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- Tyranny and authoritarian takeover of our nation's
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- Capital, soon to spread to every city in the united states.
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- The end of democracy and freedom or not.
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- President trump's announcement last week
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- That the federal government
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- Would now take control of law enforcement
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- In crime ridden, chaotic washington, d.c.,
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- Caused a collective meltdown among left wing
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- Democrats and their partners in the mainstream media.
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- How dare he fight crime and make our capital safer,
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- To make it a symbol
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- Of national pride rather than a national embarrassment
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- Of murders, carjackings and homeless encampments?
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- Not exactly the kind of takeaway you want
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- Visiting world leaders to have when they leave d.c.
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- But remember, the left is very big on defending
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- And excusing the criminal and ignoring and mocking the victim.
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- So of course, they oppose trump's efforts
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- To get a handle on the d.c.
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- Crime wave.
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- Take a look at any democrat run city from l.a.
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- To chicago, philly, baltimore, portland, seattle
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- And of course, new york city, which may soon
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- Have a self-proclaimed socialist muslim mayor in charge.
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- And you'll see
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- The same patterns, rampant crime and lawlessness.
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- Folks, i've lived in
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- And around blue cities for most of my life.
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- Born and raised in northeast philadelphia.
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- Watched it go downhill in real time.
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- Lived in new york city.
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- Moved to washington, d.c.
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- And worked there for 17 years until leaving in 2020.
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- I can tell you firsthand the decline of d.c.
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- Was obvious.
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- As with many of our nation's problems, it took president
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- Trump to come along and say, enough is enough.
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- And right the ship.
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- In just the past nine days alone, since federal forces
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- Took control in d.c., we've seen a 35% reduction
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- In violent crime and a 50% reduction in robberies.
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- And it will only get better from here, just in time
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- For our nation's 250th birthday in 2026.
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- Here was vice president jd vance,
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- Along with defense secretary pete hegseth and white house
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- Adviser stephen miller at dc's union station yesterday.
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- I want to thank all the people, the guardsmen here
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- And the police officers who work very hard for actually
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- Keeping this place safe.
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- If you look at what's happened
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- In washington, d.c., in just the past nine
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- Days, we've seen a 35% reduction in violent crime.
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- We've seen over a 50% reduction in robberies.
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- We are seeing really substantial effects.
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- So i want to come here,
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- Highlight what they're doing, say thank you in person.
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- Obviously pass out a few burgers.
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- But most of all,
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- We do not allow our cities to be taken over by violence.
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- And you can actually bring law and order to communities.
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- You've just got to have the
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- Political willpower to do it, because we want our people
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- To be able to enjoy our beautiful cities.
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- And the last thing i'll say is to the american people.
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- D.c. is already safer than it was nine days ago.
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- But we're going to make. it safer still to come.
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- This is your city.
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- It's about time, folks.
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- It's a new day in washington, d.c.,
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- And it's a new day in america.
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- Law and order are returning,
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- And that's a good thing for you and your family.
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- That's what strong leadership does.
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- It creates peace and prosperity.
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- But none of that comes without putting god first.
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- God is moving and great things are happening in our nation.
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- But remember, we are still locked
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- In a spiritual battle for the soul of our nation.
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- Up next, we'll break down how to turn back the modern day
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- Pagan threat.
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- And it all starts now.
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- The church is under siege
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- Not only from the outside, but also from within.
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- Pagan practices like witchcraft, crystals,
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- And even reincarnation are creeping into the pews.
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- And pastor
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- Lucas miles says it's time to draw a line in the sand.
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- His brand new book, pagan threat confronting america's godless
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- Uprising, is a wake up call to believers
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- To stand firm against a culture of compromise.
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- Lucas is the senior director of tp, usa, faith,
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- A pastor and a bestselling author.
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- And he joins us tonight with a powerful warning for the church.
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- Lucas, always great to see you.
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- I hate when people think of paganism
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- And threats to the church.
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- They say, of course it's the atheistic secular left.
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- But you say within the church we've got this threat rising.
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- That may be hard to believe for some people,
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- But it's very real. you lay it out in the book.
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- Tell us about
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- Some of the troubling trends that you've seen again
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- Within the church.
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- Yeah, absolutely.
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- So we have about 1.5 million people in the country
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- That consider themselves pagan today,
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- And that number is expected to triple.
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- But what we also have is we have a lot of soft paganism.
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- That is what i call it, that has entered into the church
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- In a lot of different ways.
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- For instance, a lot of people don't know
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- That the enneagram, a popular sort of personality profile,
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- The founder of it, says that he developed it
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- By what is known as automatic writing, basically contacting
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- A spirit guide or some sort of,
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- You know, demonic figure in order to get the information
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- And to make that personality profile.
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- We also have a lot of christians that are using things
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- Like burning sage in order to clean spaces of evil
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- Spirits and, and, you know, participating in things
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- Like horoscopes.
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- I was recently on the strip
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- In vegas doing man on the street videos,
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- And about half the people that told me they were a christian.
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- When i asked him, what happens after you die?
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- About half of them said they also believe in reincarnation.
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- So this is the state of the church.
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- And i'll tell you, it's a major problem.
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- Lucas, you're a pastor. you do a great job.
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- How did this happen?
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- How do we get to this point
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- Where, again, people you write in the book,
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- Even using tarot cards, reincarnation, as you mentioned,
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- How do we get to this point
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- As the body of christ where people are so misled?
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- Is it just a sign of the times?
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- You know, this is a major factor, especially for gen
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- Z, which also known as zoomers and millennials.
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- And, you know, really,
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- If you think about this in many ways,
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- There's sort of the harry potter generation.
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- They grew up playing dungeons and dragons.
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- We had, you know, netflix shows that really,
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- You know, pushed a lot of these ideas.
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- They also went through
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- A lot of trauma, school
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- Shootings were massively on the rise for this generation.
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- They kind of lived through,
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- Especially the older, you know, millennials.
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- They lived through september 11th.
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- And i think that all of that
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- Combined has caused them to start seeking alternative,
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- Sources for truth, maybe outside of
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- Of what they felt like were some of these western norms
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- And so they were kind of trading
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- Their crosses and bible studies, for seances and crystals.
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- And, you know, i think we were seeing the,
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- The trauma of that continue.
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- And, and really this become a rising issue.
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- Well, and, lucas, you make a great point.
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- The supernatural themes
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- Of so many tv shows and movies today, even music.
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- It's everywhere. for younger generations.
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- Generation z is is an interesting test case
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- Because on one hand, as you said, they've
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- They're all some components of that generation off the rails
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- And dabbling in what you're laying out.
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- But also we see some encouraging signs that generation
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- Z may be having a sort of mini revival buying bibles.
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- What's your take on that? are you encouraged by that?
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- Yeah,
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- So i am encouraged and also cautious at the same time.
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- So, you know, my work
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- With charlie kirk and turning point usa and tp, usa faith.
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- You know, we are seeing especially young men, you know,
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- Come back to the church in tremendous numbers.
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- The, you know, the comparison between young men today
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- And their boomer counterparts is the first time that young men
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- Have been more conservative than their boomer counterparts.
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- But there's a concern there, especially among young women.
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- And this is not to say that all women fall into this category.
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- But when you think about the,
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- The role models that are available for young men today,
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- There's a lot of conservative figures.
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- It's the joe rogan's, it's the jordan peterson's.
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- The ben shapiro is the charlie kirks that are out there.
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- When you look at young women, it's beyoncé,
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- It's lady gaga. it's
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- Some of the political figures like aoc and kamala harris.
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- And i think it's sabrina carpenter and others, and many,
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- Especially these,
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- These female pop figures, which i go into the book
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- In detail, have identified with witchcraft.
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- They talk about carrying tarot cards in their purses.
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- They talk about, you know, their utilization of crystals.
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- Many of these female pop stars
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- Have boasted about how they have an alter ego
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- That takes over their personality,
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- Kind of describing sort of this inner spirit
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- That they have when they go on stage.
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- So much
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- So that that one of them actually
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- Has a name for that individual and says she is an eight year
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- Old boy stuck inside of her body
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- That takes over when she steps into the spotlight.
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- This these are the role models that young women have had,
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- Unfortunately, and i think that that is having
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- An effect on this generation in many ways.
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- Yeah. great point.
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- We live in a popular culture where good is called
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- Evil, and evil is called good in many cases.
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- We are in bible times, no doubt.
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- And after the break, more with pastor lucas myles.
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- What about wokeness and paganism?
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- Is there a connection there?
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- Author of the pagan threat,
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- Lucas myles is back with us after the break.
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- Don't move.
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- Don't move.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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- The book is pagan threat
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- Confronting america's godless uprising.
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- Folks, you can pick it up right now.
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- Amazon.com, barnes and noble, wherever books are sold.
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- The author is lucas myles.
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- Be sure to follow him, of course, on x
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- And across social media.
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- Lucas, you
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- And i sat down about two years ago,
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- I believe, and talked about
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- One of your great books called woke jesus.
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- Well, in pagan thread
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- You write about the direct correlation between wokeness,
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- This insane ideology we see right now
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- Sweeping across the western world, and paganism.
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- Break that down for us a bit.
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- Yeah.
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- Anytime we talk about wokeism, it's it's really it's
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- Really just another way of saying a marxist framework
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- And that critical theory, marxist worldview,
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- Has attached itself to so many areas of our society.
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- You know,
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- I've spent the last several years
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- Really looking at detail at the effects
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- Of wokeism on christianity.
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- I've written two different books about it, as you mentioned.
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- But what i think we're seeing is that
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- Christianity is not a long term vehicle for the parasite
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- That is marxism.
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- Eventually you're either going to push into marxism more
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- And take on that anti-god framework
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- And leave christianity, or you're going
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- To push into christianity more and you're going to recognize
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- That marxism and the gospel are antithetical to one another.
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- But what is happening is that marxism has found
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- That parasite of marxism has found a new host,
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- And that host is this neo pagan revival that's taking place.
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- There's not a lot of conflicts between marx's worldview
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- And, say,
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- Witchcraft or marxist worldview and wicca or marx's worldview.
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- In some sort of,
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- You know, theosophy or some other,
- 00:11:21.367 --> 00:11:23.402
- You know, esoteric new faith that's popping up.
- 00:11:23.402 --> 00:11:25.772
- And so what we're seeing is that marxism and things
- 00:11:25.772 --> 00:11:29.876
- Like the lgbt movement
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- Have attached themselves to where we have now.
- 00:11:31.277 --> 00:11:34.947
- You know, you can pick up books on, queer witchcraft
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- Or some sort of critical framework to paganism.
- 00:11:38.618 --> 00:11:42.121
- And so i have unfortunately spent
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- About the last year
- 00:11:43.756 --> 00:11:44.724
- Reading a lot of these books. it
- 00:11:44.724 --> 00:11:45.925
- Was some of the most impressive reading i've ever done.
- 00:11:45.925 --> 00:11:48.795
- And i my nightstand was had a lot of scary titles on it.
- 00:11:48.795 --> 00:11:52.298
- But this is this is massive.
- 00:11:52.298 --> 00:11:54.100
- And i think a lot of people are not aware of it.
- 00:11:54.100 --> 00:11:56.035
- They're not talking about it.
- 00:11:56.035 --> 00:11:57.170
- You open up tiktok live,
- 00:11:57.170 --> 00:11:58.638
- And you will find this intersection between paganism
- 00:11:58.638 --> 00:12:01.641
- And marxism happening very strongly,
- 00:12:01.641 --> 00:12:04.577
- And it has deeply influenced our younger generation.
- 00:12:04.577 --> 00:12:07.580
- And i think that we have to be aware
- 00:12:07.580 --> 00:12:08.915
- That wokeism has shown its true colors,
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- And they are in fact, pagan.
- 00:12:10.917 --> 00:12:12.518
- Yeah, it's evil.
- 00:12:12.518 --> 00:12:13.686
- And you write about this in great detail in pagan threat.
- 00:12:13.686 --> 00:12:16.189
- Lucas two things before we closed number one,
- 00:12:16.189 --> 00:12:18.691
- Optimism with president trump in office.
- 00:12:18.691 --> 00:12:20.860
- Look, he's speaking openly about faith.
- 00:12:20.860 --> 00:12:23.329
- We've got a faith office in the white house.
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- And number two, real quick prescriptions to turn back
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- This pagan threat.
- 00:12:29.535 --> 00:12:30.436
- You've got it throughout the book, but
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- Share some real quick for us.
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- Look, i've been to the
- 00:12:34.407 --> 00:12:35.608
- White house a couple times this year, and i can tell you
- 00:12:35.608 --> 00:12:36.809
- There's a lot of movement when it comes to faith.
- 00:12:36.809 --> 00:12:38.778
- And i'm very encouraged and very optimistic
- 00:12:38.778 --> 00:12:40.980
- About where the nation is heading as a whole.
- 00:12:40.980 --> 00:12:43.382
- But on an individual level, within our local communities,
- 00:12:43.382 --> 00:12:45.952
- We still have a lot of work to do.
- 00:12:45.952 --> 00:12:47.286
- And so what i recommend in this book,
- 00:12:47.286 --> 00:12:49.121
- I actually have
- 00:12:49.121 --> 00:12:50.189
- A seven fold strategy for the church in america.
- 00:12:50.189 --> 00:12:52.725
- At the end of the book.
- 00:12:52.725 --> 00:12:53.593
- But i'll give you just a snippet of that.
- 00:12:53.593 --> 00:12:54.927
- First off, i think that we have to return to primary doctrine.
- 00:12:54.927 --> 00:12:58.130
- There's so many christians that have just forgotten
- 00:12:58.130 --> 00:13:00.066
- The basic tenets of the faith or never learn them.
- 00:13:00.066 --> 00:13:02.335
- We need to come back to really understanding
- 00:13:02.335 --> 00:13:04.370
- The core tenets of the faith.
- 00:13:04.370 --> 00:13:05.805
- So there's no confusion about what christianity is.
- 00:13:05.805 --> 00:13:08.207
- I think also we need to leverage technology.
- 00:13:08.207 --> 00:13:10.276
- It is easier today to do evangelism than ever before.
- 00:13:10.276 --> 00:13:12.879
- All i have to do is pick up my phone
- 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:14.480
- And go out on the street and say, hey, i'm a content creator.
- 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.016
- I make videos about spirituality.
- 00:13:17.016 --> 00:13:18.551
- Can i interview and talk to you a little bit?
- 00:13:18.551 --> 00:13:20.286
- And you would not believe the type of open doors
- 00:13:20.286 --> 00:13:22.688
- That can happen is you're creating content
- 00:13:22.688 --> 00:13:24.557
- That you can share with millions of people,
- 00:13:24.557 --> 00:13:26.325
- And also ministering to somebody individually one on one.
- 00:13:26.325 --> 00:13:29.362
- The church has a lot of work to do,
- 00:13:29.362 --> 00:13:30.830
- But there's more opportunity than ever.
- 00:13:30.830 --> 00:13:32.832
- But we have to be very aware of what this,
- 00:13:32.832 --> 00:13:35.201
- What this, you know, real,
- 00:13:35.201 --> 00:13:37.069
- You know, confrontation that we have between goodness
- 00:13:37.069 --> 00:13:39.272
- And evil in the form of paganism today,
- 00:13:39.272 --> 00:13:41.073
- If we're going to be ready for. it, no doubt. lucas.
- 00:13:41.073 --> 00:13:42.975
- Well said.
- 00:13:42.975 --> 00:13:43.743
- It is a spiritual battle,
- 00:13:43.743 --> 00:13:45.278
- But there is a great harvest out there right now.
- 00:13:45.278 --> 00:13:47.546
- And you're at the forefront of that, my friend.
- 00:13:47.546 --> 00:13:49.081
- Again, the book is called
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- Pagan threat and you can pick it up
- 00:13:50.383 --> 00:13:51.617
- Amazon.com wherever books are sold. lucas.
- 00:13:51.617 --> 00:13:54.320
- Great job.
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- God bless. we'll see you again soon.
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- Coming up after the break,
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- We've been talking about making america godly again.
- 00:13:57.657 --> 00:14:00.626
- What about making america healthy again?
- 00:14:00.626 --> 00:14:03.930
- Two top experts joining us after the break.
- 00:14:03.930 --> 00:14:06.465
- You won't want to miss this. stick around.
- 00:14:06.465 --> 00:14:10.002
- You won't want to miss this. stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
- 00:14:12.945 --> 00:14:14.813
- Is your diet making you sick and spiritually drained?
- 00:14:14.813 --> 00:14:19.051
- With so many food fads promising health and happiness, keto.
- 00:14:19.051 --> 00:14:23.322
- Paleo plant-based carnivore,
- 00:14:23.322 --> 00:14:25.724
- It's easy to feel overwhelmed and confused.
- 00:14:25.724 --> 00:14:29.294
- But what if science and scripture
- 00:14:29.294 --> 00:14:31.563
- Are saying the same thing and we've just missed it?
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- Tonight we're joined by pearl barrett
- 00:14:35.233 --> 00:14:36.802
- And serene allison, founders of the trim healthy mama
- 00:14:36.802 --> 00:14:40.072
- Movement and authors of the new e-book trim healthy wellness
- 00:14:40.072 --> 00:14:43.909
- A biblical guide their mission to dismantle the food fads
- 00:14:43.909 --> 00:14:48.213
- And rebuild our understanding of nutrition through the lens
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- Of god's word and science, a great combination.
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- Pearl, serene, welcome back to the show.
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- Great to have you.
- 00:14:57.089 --> 00:14:58.056
- Thank you. it's a pleasure to be here.
- 00:14:58.056 --> 00:14:59.558
- Yeah. we want to unpack these diets.
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- I just mentioned keto etc.
- 00:15:01.293 --> 00:15:03.061
- They've got some pluses and minuses.
- 00:15:03.061 --> 00:15:05.330
- So let's start with keto.
- 00:15:05.330 --> 00:15:06.798
- What should we know about that diet?
- 00:15:06.798 --> 00:15:08.900
- Well keto clearly demonized is a food group
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- That god calls good.
- 00:15:11.837 --> 00:15:13.305
- I mean, complex carbohydrates.
- 00:15:13.305 --> 00:15:15.073
- We need them.
- 00:15:15.073 --> 00:15:16.341
- He created them for a reason.
- 00:15:16.341 --> 00:15:18.543
- We need them for our brain.
- 00:15:18.543 --> 00:15:20.412
- Actually,
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- Our brain thrives on glucose from complex carbohydrates.
- 00:15:21.613 --> 00:15:25.017
- We need it for our hormones.
- 00:15:25.017 --> 00:15:26.685
- We need it for our fibroid to nurture our thyroid.
- 00:15:26.685 --> 00:15:30.122
- And we need it for our adrenals.
- 00:15:30.122 --> 00:15:32.357
- Complex carbohydrates like sweet potatoes and ancient
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- Grains and berries and fruit.
- 00:15:36.228 --> 00:15:38.296
- They actually sing lullabies to stressed out adrenals.
- 00:15:38.296 --> 00:15:42.434
- And we also need carbohydrates for our microbiome.
- 00:15:42.434 --> 00:15:46.038
- And these foods that are fiber rich and filled with fat
- 00:15:46.038 --> 00:15:49.007
- And nutrients, they actually the catalysts to build large,
- 00:15:49.007 --> 00:15:52.911
- Robust families of good bacteria in our gut.
- 00:15:52.911 --> 00:15:57.082
- And you know, you cannot have like a healthy human
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- Without a healthy gut, right?
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- It's the basis of all of our health.
- 00:16:00.852 --> 00:16:02.921
- And, you know, jesus, he multiplied the loaves.
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- And that just says it to me.
- 00:16:06.358 --> 00:16:07.592
- He's like, why would he multiply something
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- That is so devastating for our health?
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- Of course
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- It would have been made of ancient grains,
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- Not the white fluffy bread.
- 00:16:13.698 --> 00:16:15.667
- Sure, it seems that you need carbs to live basically.
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- And, pearl, the paleo diet, that's another one.
- 00:16:19.471 --> 00:16:23.442
- Now, that's kind of the caveman diet, i guess you would say.
- 00:16:23.442 --> 00:16:25.610
- Tell us more about that.
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- Well, i think it's another case of what man thinks
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- It's best versus what god thinks is best.
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- Because when you turn to the scriptures,
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- You can
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- Clearly eat and enjoy grains and dairy.
- 00:16:38.857 --> 00:16:41.893
- And those are the two things
- 00:16:41.893 --> 00:16:43.862
- That the paleo diet says, well, that's not good for us.
- 00:16:43.862 --> 00:16:45.931
- They're inflammatory.
- 00:16:45.931 --> 00:16:47.532
- But the bible, when it talks about forms of dairy,
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- It actually says for the maintenance
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- Of our health, which means the freshening.
- 00:16:51.503 --> 00:16:53.839
- And so we're clearly designed to ingest these things.
- 00:16:53.839 --> 00:16:58.210
- And look, god calls israel the promised land, a land
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- Flowing with milk.
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- Yes. dairy. honey.
- 00:17:02.647 --> 00:17:04.549
- I think we can just get so confused
- 00:17:04.549 --> 00:17:07.219
- Because man's wisdom is kind of like, you know,
- 00:17:07.219 --> 00:17:10.422
- The winds of doctrine, you know, talks like that.
- 00:17:10.422 --> 00:17:13.325
- But but we can just turn to the scripture and say, well, god,
- 00:17:13.325 --> 00:17:16.628
- Do you have anything to say about this?
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- And then, you know, dairy is mentioned over 70 times,
- 00:17:18.296 --> 00:17:21.366
- Grains of mentioned over 300 times in the scriptures.
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- And a positive ways. yeah.
- 00:17:25.537 --> 00:17:27.672
- I like you said, it's fads.
- 00:17:27.672 --> 00:17:29.441
- It seems it's something new.
- 00:17:29.441 --> 00:17:30.609
- Every week i'm hearing about a new diet.
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- One is plant based.
- 00:17:32.043 --> 00:17:33.211
- Three now plant based seems good on the surface.
- 00:17:33.211 --> 00:17:36.014
- Look you think of vegetables,
- 00:17:36.014 --> 00:17:37.215
- But what about any drawbacks there?
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- Yeah, because a healthy diet needs a surplus of veggies.
- 00:17:39.184 --> 00:17:41.987
- We are all about it.
- 00:17:41.987 --> 00:17:43.355
- But when you just kind of restrict
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- Other food groups and you be exclusive
- 00:17:45.957 --> 00:17:47.792
- And you become just exclusive
- 00:17:47.792 --> 00:17:49.394
- To the plant kingdom, only it has a drawback.
- 00:17:49.394 --> 00:17:52.731
- Because we need meat.
- 00:17:53.231 --> 00:17:55.300
- Meat has essential nutrients, essential peptides
- 00:17:55.300 --> 00:17:58.904
- That actually lower blood pressure, lower blood sugar,
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- Help with better body composition, and actually meat.
- 00:18:01.940 --> 00:18:05.710
- It's healthy for our gut.
- 00:18:06.278 --> 00:18:07.846
- It it balances the colon.
- 00:18:07.846 --> 00:18:10.749
- And we need we need animal foods,
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- Especially the critical fats the dhea,
- 00:18:12.918 --> 00:18:17.255
- The vitamin b12, the vitamin d3, creatine foods.
- 00:18:17.255 --> 00:18:21.459
- These animal foods, they have these essential
- 00:18:21.459 --> 00:18:23.828
- Nutrients that you cannot find in the plant kingdom.
- 00:18:23.828 --> 00:18:27.299
- You know, in the resurrected christ, he he ate fish.
- 00:18:27.299 --> 00:18:30.669
- So if it's good enough for the resurrected
- 00:18:30.669 --> 00:18:32.437
- Christ is good enough for me. so a lot. of chicken and fish.
- 00:18:32.437 --> 00:18:35.207
- I mean, grilled chicken.
- 00:18:35.207 --> 00:18:36.441
- Still a good prescription for a good diet.
- 00:18:36.441 --> 00:18:38.577
- Oh yeah. we need the balance.
- 00:18:38.577 --> 00:18:39.911
- The balance of both clean sources too.
- 00:18:39.911 --> 00:18:43.181
- Just seeking clean, pure sources of these things.
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- Okay, speaking of which, i know a lot of
- 00:18:46.384 --> 00:18:48.687
- Guys are going to like this, and we're in texas right now.
- 00:18:48.687 --> 00:18:50.789
- This is steak, country barbecue, country carnivore, pearl,
- 00:18:50.789 --> 00:18:54.526
- The carnivore diet. tell us more about it.
- 00:18:54.526 --> 00:18:56.394
- There's some drawbacks there.
- 00:18:56.394 --> 00:18:58.396
- Carnivore.
- 00:18:58.396 --> 00:18:59.531
- Well, first of all, we're not a lion or a tiger.
- 00:18:59.531 --> 00:19:02.901
- We're an omnivore.
- 00:19:02.901 --> 00:19:04.603
- Like, even if some health influences
- 00:19:04.603 --> 00:19:06.738
- Says we'll eat like a big cat, but we're humans, and god didn't
- 00:19:06.738 --> 00:19:11.443
- Make us to eat like a big cat.
- 00:19:11.443 --> 00:19:13.478
- So he made us to eat meat.
- 00:19:13.478 --> 00:19:16.047
- And these other food groups.
- 00:19:16.047 --> 00:19:17.816
- And when you restrict those,
- 00:19:17.816 --> 00:19:20.185
- You exclude all those vital nutrients. now,
- 00:19:20.185 --> 00:19:22.988
- The people promoting carnivore like meat is good for you.
- 00:19:22.988 --> 00:19:26.124
- Well, hey, we just agreed with that.
- 00:19:26.124 --> 00:19:28.326
- But they're saying these things in plants
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- That are out to kill us.
- 00:19:30.962 --> 00:19:32.130
- You know, maybe you've heard like oxalates and lectins
- 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:34.432
- And these things, humans aren't designed to eat them.
- 00:19:34.432 --> 00:19:36.868
- And designed, but actually we are,
- 00:19:36.868 --> 00:19:39.537
- Because god designed us with that microbiome.
- 00:19:39.537 --> 00:19:42.107
- Serine talked about it.
- 00:19:42.107 --> 00:19:43.208
- And in it that bacteria takes care of those things.
- 00:19:43.208 --> 00:19:46.978
- So if we eat the plants,
- 00:19:46.978 --> 00:19:48.780
- We take care of those things that are in plants.
- 00:19:48.780 --> 00:19:51.016
- So a beautiful cycle.
- 00:19:51.016 --> 00:19:53.084
- Yeah folks, this is biblical wisdom
- 00:19:53.084 --> 00:19:55.153
- For your diet, for your health.
- 00:19:55.153 --> 00:19:56.855
- Trim healthy mama.com. check it out.
- 00:19:56.855 --> 00:19:58.923
- There's some great products there as well in addition to the
- 00:19:58.923 --> 00:20:01.293
- E-book and also follow serena and pearl across social media.
- 00:20:01.293 --> 00:20:05.397
- We were talking before we started serena.
- 00:20:05.397 --> 00:20:06.798
- It seems a lot of this is plain common sense.
- 00:20:06.798 --> 00:20:08.900
- You know, kind of.
- 00:20:08.900 --> 00:20:10.001
- I'm old school diet and exercise and not a fad diet.
- 00:20:10.001 --> 00:20:12.771
- Just common sense, healthy choices.
- 00:20:12.771 --> 00:20:15.340
- Yeah, it's so simple.
- 00:20:15.340 --> 00:20:16.641
- But most people are educated
- 00:20:16.641 --> 00:20:18.810
- Beyond their common sense now in a way that they just
- 00:20:18.810 --> 00:20:22.814
- They're on insane approaches and, you know, so
- 00:20:22.814 --> 00:20:25.450
- These, these, these fad diets, but also just the sad
- 00:20:25.450 --> 00:20:28.720
- Standard american diet that doesn't work either.
- 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:32.223
- So what is it that. fries aren't good for it?
- 00:20:32.223 --> 00:20:34.793
- What is the. shake on the side?
- 00:20:34.793 --> 00:20:36.594
- The ancient path is what's left.
- 00:20:36.594 --> 00:20:38.196
- Returning to the simple, returning to the sane.
- 00:20:38.196 --> 00:20:41.700
- Returning to that sound path.
- 00:20:41.700 --> 00:20:43.868
- You know.
- 00:20:43.868 --> 00:20:44.936
- And they're also some tools to make that easier.
- 00:20:44.936 --> 00:20:47.105
- So check out our website.
- 00:20:47.105 --> 00:20:48.306
- We have lots of tools and supplements
- 00:20:48.306 --> 00:20:50.008
- To just help us on our way to hell.
- 00:20:50.008 --> 00:20:51.643
- Yeah, pearl.
- 00:20:51.643 --> 00:20:52.777
- Trimhealthymama.com and the number for the e-book folks.
- 00:20:52.777 --> 00:20:55.413
- 1-800-746-3640, you see it there on your screen.
- 00:20:55.413 --> 00:20:59.551
- 1-800-746-3640 and of course, trim
- 00:20:59.551 --> 00:21:03.254
- Healthy mama.com for some final thoughts here.
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- We've got about a minute left. what's your big message?
- 00:21:06.524 --> 00:21:08.760
- Big takeaway from the e-book in particular.
- 00:21:08.760 --> 00:21:12.130
- The e-book just
- 00:21:12.497 --> 00:21:13.331
- Gives us the knowledge
- 00:21:13.331 --> 00:21:14.599
- And to make this lifestyle of eating basic, sane foods
- 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:19.003
- Doable in our fast paced, busy world where, yeah, we,
- 00:21:19.003 --> 00:21:22.807
- Bombarded with things like processed foods and sugars.
- 00:21:22.807 --> 00:21:26.211
- And yes, i actually think that's an extreme diet.
- 00:21:26.211 --> 00:21:29.714
- Yeah, but god's calling us to something
- 00:21:29.714 --> 00:21:31.816
- Here's foods and they can be delicious.
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- They can be easy.
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- And we just share that because it's worked in our lives
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- And it's worked for millions of people.
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- Yeah, that dual plan.
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- Yeah.
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- You're changing lives. it's amazing.
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- Ladies this was great.
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- We appreciate it.
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- Coming up, my final thoughts don't move.
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- Coming up, my final thoughts don't move.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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- As we wrap up here,
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- I've been thinking about this grip that paganism.
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- Yes, modern day
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- Literal paganism has in many quarters of the west.
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- There's really no excuse at this point.
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- Jesus has revealed himself to the nations.
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- I think of the book of acts, chapter 17, verse 30.
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- In the past, god overlooked such ignorance,
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- But now he commands all people everywhere to repent.
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- Amen. and folks, we can have revival.
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- But first comes repentance.
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- The good news is i see some very encouraging trends.
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- Certainly in america, we hope revival can spread
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- To europe, where the gospel used to go out from for centuries.
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- But exciting times that we're living in right now.
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- God is moving,
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- But we need to recognize the dual threats this pagan ism,
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- Left wing atheistic worldview, and the rise of radical islam
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- In the west.
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- Hey, tomorrow night,
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- Someone who knows both of those threats
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- Very well is our good friend, doctor robert jeffress.
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- He's here talking about his brand new, very timely book,
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- Jesus revealed in the end times.
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- Folks, you won't want to miss that until then.
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- God bless you. we'll see you soon.
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