Erick Stakelbeck: Evil’s Impact on Our World | Stakelbeck Tonight

September 25, 2025 | S25 E925 | 25:5

From wars and rumors of war abroad, to the rise of anti-Christian, "woke" ideology here at home, it’s clear that Americans are living in perilous and unprecedented times. Some would even say that we’re witnessing biblical prophecy unfold in real time. Stakelbeck Tonight will make sense of these stunning developments through a bold and biblical lens.

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  • In the wake of the october 7th massacre
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  • And the assassination of charlie
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  • Kirk, the world has been reminded of a sobering truth.
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  • Evil exists, and it not only exists.
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  • It continues to be very active, even in our own streets,
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  • Right here in america.
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  • The battle between good and evil is as old as time itself.
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  • And in his brand new bestseller,
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  • Confronting evil assessing the worst of the worst.
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  • Bill o'reilly breaks down what's happened
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  • Throughout history, when good men and women
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  • Have stood aside and done nothing in the face of evil.
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  • Bill is the number one bestselling history author
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  • In the world, with 19 new york times bestsellers to his credit.
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  • He's also, of course, host of the no spin news podcast
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  • Seen by millions on youtube every day.
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  • And the o'reilly update.
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  • You can check out all of his great work
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  • At bill o'reilly dot com.
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  • Bill joins us now.
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  • Bill, talk about timing.
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  • The book is released on september 9th.
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  • Charlie kirk murdered in cold blood on september 10th.
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  • We're still dealing with the fallout of that, of course.
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  • What does that say?
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  • What happened with charlie?
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  • And clearly a movement of evil in our nation right now is
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  • Coming to a head, really? with charlie's assassination?
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  • What does that say about the state of
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  • Things in america right now?
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  • Well, the assassination of charlie kirk
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  • Was a personal evil done by a disturbed human being.
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  • You got to give him due process.
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  • So he's an alleged, assassin.
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  • But the evidence is overwhelming,
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  • And he'll be convicted. so, personally,
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  • A little bit different than institutional evil.
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  • When i decided to write this book.
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  • Eric,k a year ago, i noticed a rise
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  • In evil across the united states, in the world.
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  • And the poster boy for that is.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Who's on the cover of, confronting evil
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  • Along with mao, hitler and the ayatollah khomeini?
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  • Putin, basically is accepted by the russian people,
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  • And they, don't overthrow him.
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  • There's no general strikes like gandhi did in india.
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  • There's nothing like that.
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  • And putin is slaughtering innocent women and children.
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  • He attacks civilians in ukraine.
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  • That's his war tactic.
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  • And you don't get more evil than that.
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  • And in america, i,
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  • You know, following the soft on crime, progressive movement
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  • Which is destroyed, cities like san francisco,
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  • L.a., chicago, probably new york.
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  • Coming up, we have a, communist mayor that might win this guy.
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  • Man. donnie.
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  • And all of that is in the face of people
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  • Either supporting it or turning away from it.
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  • Yeah, and that's all evil needs to prosper.
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  • So that's why i decided to write the book.
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  • Yeah, bill, it's a great one.
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  • And the role faith plays in all of this.
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  • Bill, what happens to a society when it abandons faith?
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  • Of course. america.
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  • We're seeing maybe some stirrings
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  • Of religious revival in our nation. right now.
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  • But, look, we've been trending
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  • Very secular, of course, in previous years.
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  • What role does that play?
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  • When evil rises in a society,
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  • There's a turning away
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  • From faith and in our case, maybe in the case of the west
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  • Right now,
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  • Turning away from those bedrock judeo-christian values.
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  • What role does that play in people embracing evil?
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  • Big, because the concept of sin,
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  • In theology, is what has kept people
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  • Over the centuries pretty much in line.
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  • So when i was a kid, i went to catholic school,
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  • And by the time i was, seven, which is mostly
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  • The age of reason, i knew that you don't lie.
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  • You don't steal, or you don't beat up your friend.
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  • You know, there are things you that are sinful.
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  • I knew that, but in secular places,
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  • There's no judgments made about behavior any longer.
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  • And we have people now
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  • Committing heinous crimes that are not even punished.
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  • They're not even punished.
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  • And you're going. whoa.
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  • In america past,
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  • When religion had more authority
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  • Here, that was very rare.
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  • It couldn't happen in most places.
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  • But now it is common.
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  • And that is all at the doorstep of people
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  • Looking away from theology and into themselves
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  • That there is no greater good, there is no higher power.
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  • I can do what i want, evil loves that.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And bill, we see the ramifications
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  • Of not confronting evil in the book.
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  • Look, you lay out the worst of the worst,
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  • As you mentioned to mal, the ayatollah, stalin, hitler.
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  • And we're still dealing with the repercussions
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  • Of their tyrannical rule,
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  • Their butchery of their own citizens today.
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  • Did that jump out at you,
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  • That look, the mistakes that are made, the
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  • The refusal, the reluctance to confront evil,
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  • It has ramifications for generations to come.
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  • Every person,
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  • All 15 evil doers profiled in my book
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  • Are relevant today.
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  • So you go, oh, you start the book with caligula.
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  • I don't actually start with him.
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  • I start with the attack by hamas
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  • On october 7th.
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  • To put you vividly right in the middle
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  • Of what evil really is,
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  • I'm putting you right in that israeli town
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  • And that is the introduction to the book.
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  • Then we go to caligula.
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  • They go, well, you know, caligula, rome doesn't have any.
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  • Yeah, it does, because rome collapsed.
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  • Because evil took over.
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  • And that could happen to america.
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  • I don't think it will, but it could.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And by the way, you mentioned starting the book
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  • With october 7th and the intro.
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  • Bill, it's absolutely gripping.
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  • I was at that kibbutz in the aftermath
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  • Of the october 7th massacre at kibbutz barry,
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  • And you laid out in stunning detail what it did.
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  • And the only word i can think of is demonic.
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  • And i think that's what we're seeing more and more
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  • Talk about some of those figures throughout history. caligula.
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  • Fascinating chapter.
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  • Genghis khan,
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  • Someone you identify bill as a psychopath, talk more about him.
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  • Obviously a famous historical figure,
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  • But certainly among the worst of the worst.
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  • And you last lay it out and you take us inside
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  • His culture or civilization, or lack thereof.
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  • Genghis khan's evil spread
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  • From the pacific ocean in china all the way to hungary.
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  • In europe,
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  • Millions of people were killed by mongol raiders
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  • Who perfected the art of warfare on horseback, which is why
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  • The great wall of china was originally started.
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  • And i was in china in may, and i went up to the great wall.
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  • And to this day, the chinese people fear outsiders.
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  • And that started with genghis khan,
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  • Which is, again, why it's relevant to today.
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  • But khan was a particularly ruthless barbarian
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  • Who had no limits at all, not.
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  • And he enjoyed killing people, you know that in common
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  • With with hitler and stalin and putin enjoyed it.
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  • So the more i can kill today, the better.
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  • And that's what his worries were already.
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  • Did you just slaughter everybody? yeah.
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  • And they did it very efficiently.
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  • No doubt. and you laid out in such great detail.
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  • You're such a great historian, of course.
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  • And you see the parallels
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  • With the barbarian like a genghis khan.
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  • No value for human life and hamas and that october 7th
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  • Massacre, that entire iranian ring of fire that we see today.
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  • When we come
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  • Back, bill o'reilly exposes the dirty truth about the evils
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  • Of the drug trade and the ruthless cartels involved.
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  • That's next.
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  • That's next.
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  • Hey, bringing it close to home.
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  • And the great thing about the book is you're going back
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  • Thousands of years,
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  • But it's very contemporary as well,
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  • With contemporary instances and examples of evil
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  • The drug lords, the drug trade, el chapo, pablo escobar.
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  • You get into that.
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  • And obviously over the past several years, president trump,
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  • It's been a miracle at the southern border
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  • Over the past nine months.
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  • But in the years prior, we had a literal invasion
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  • Of our southern border where some great evil
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  • Seeped into our country.
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  • Talk about the nature of that drug trade
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  • South of the border and how evil that really is.
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  • It's a nasty business.
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  • Millions of people,
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  • Erick, millions of people have been killed, by their own hand.
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  • They're responsible somewhat for their own deaths.
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  • But narcotics smuggling is as evil as it gets.
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  • And, you know, here in new york,
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  • You can sell heroin on the street
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  • And you won't even get arrested in some places.
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  • That's how appalling this whole thing is.
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  • But these, vicious cartels,
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  • Made billions of dollars.
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  • They don't need to make any more money.
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  • These guys, they have all the money.
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  • They couldn't possibly spend it.
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  • But they continue to do it.
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  • And they don't care who dies of children or addicted enslaved.
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  • They don't care about any of that.
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  • And then we have governments
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  • Like mexico that look the other way, that allow
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  • The cartels to assume power to do all this heinous stuff.
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  • So our conversation with president trump
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  • In his first term and we're at mar-a-lago, was just me and him,
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  • And we're talking about policy around the world
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  • And about how he was very successful in, dismantling
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  • The jihad, isis, al-qaida, revolutionary guard, soleimani.
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  • And he was very proud of that.
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  • Just like, you know,
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  • We had a lot of the evil doers, got a lot of bad guys.
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  • And i said, now you got to look at the cartels.
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  • And the discussion was, well, what can we do?
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  • You got to kill them.
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  • And i said,
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  • You can designate them terrorists
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  • The same way you did with the jihadists.
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  • And that gives you
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  • The legal authority in the united states
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  • To use the military to wipe these guys out,
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  • Because that is not going to stop any other way.
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  • And just this week, we're saying the u.s.
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  • Military take out the drug boats from venezuela.
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  • Yeah, a corrupt narco state.
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  • And soon that's going to happen in mexico,
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  • Where the mexicans like it or not.
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  • And it should happen
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  • Because the president of the united states
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  • Has an obligation to protect the american people.
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  • And biden's open border was the worst
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  • Dereliction of duty i've ever seen of any president.
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  • Yeah, okay.
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  • Allowing that flood of humanity 12 to 15 million
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  • Foreign nationals and tons of narcotics
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  • To come into the country for no reason.
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  • It was no reason to do that.
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  • And that was an evil act.
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  • I'm not saying joe biden was evil.
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  • I'm saying what he did, that policy that was evil.
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  • Yeah, bill. well said.
  • 00:11:28.411 --> 00:11:29.546
  • And now president trump is trying to clean up that mess.
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  • Hey, you trace how fentanyl.
  • 00:11:32.215 --> 00:11:33.850
  • Talk about a great evil in our streets in america.
  • 00:11:33.850 --> 00:11:36.486
  • Fentanyl originating in china. they're shipping it here.
  • 00:11:36.486 --> 00:11:39.389
  • It comes up through latin america, into our country.
  • 00:11:39.389 --> 00:11:43.059
  • Can you talk more about that scourge?
  • 00:11:43.059 --> 00:11:45.128
  • And you dig into in the book a bit, and that it's killed
  • 00:11:45.128 --> 00:11:47.731
  • Tens of thousands of americans at this point?
  • 00:11:47.731 --> 00:11:50.901
  • More than that,
  • 00:11:50.901 --> 00:11:53.470
  • Fentanyl is simply another device
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  • To bring pain to the human condition.
  • 00:11:59.075 --> 00:12:03.647
  • When i was in beijing in may, at the request of
  • 00:12:03.647 --> 00:12:06.316
  • The chinese government, we were discussing,
  • 00:12:06.316 --> 00:12:09.586
  • President trump and will he visit beijing?
  • 00:12:10.453 --> 00:12:13.123
  • And i said, if you want him over,
  • 00:12:13.123 --> 00:12:14.524
  • You're going to have to give him something.
  • 00:12:14.524 --> 00:12:16.560
  • And they said to me, this is the chinese politburo.
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  • What could we give them?
  • 00:12:19.629 --> 00:12:20.630
  • I said, get out of the fentanyl business.
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  • You don't need that.
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  • That's killing
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  • Hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.
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  • Why are you involved with that?
  • 00:12:28.839 --> 00:12:30.540
  • What good does that do? china.
  • 00:12:30.540 --> 00:12:33.109
  • Silence. they had no answer.
  • 00:12:33.109 --> 00:12:35.312
  • So that's the kind of evil drugs
  • 00:12:35.312 --> 00:12:39.583
  • That kind of goes through the cracks.
  • 00:12:39.583 --> 00:12:43.019
  • People are outraged by charlie kirk's assassination.
  • 00:12:43.019 --> 00:12:46.156
  • They're outraged by the terrorism
  • 00:12:46.156 --> 00:12:48.525
  • That we see around the world.
  • 00:12:48.525 --> 00:12:50.160
  • But the drug thing is, they're not outraged.
  • 00:12:50.160 --> 00:12:53.063
  • I am, because i know people who's lost their lives,
  • 00:12:53.063 --> 00:12:57.234
  • And i try to paint that picture as vividly as i could.
  • 00:12:57.234 --> 00:13:01.104
  • And the chapters about more people need to say, no more
  • 00:13:01.104 --> 00:13:05.809
  • Drugs.
  • 00:13:05.809 --> 00:13:06.743
  • Yeah, that is a great, great evil, no doubt.
  • 00:13:06.743 --> 00:13:10.013
  • And look, we see mao, who you highlight in the book,
  • 00:13:10.013 --> 00:13:12.649
  • Or should i say low light in the book, mao zedong,
  • 00:13:12.649 --> 00:13:15.151
  • His legacy lives on in communist china today.
  • 00:13:15.151 --> 00:13:17.687
  • You talked about vladimir putin.
  • 00:13:17.687 --> 00:13:19.289
  • And look, if it's putin
  • 00:13:19.289 --> 00:13:20.891
  • Or the ayatollah khamenei, the successor of khamenei,
  • 00:13:20.891 --> 00:13:23.894
  • Who you highlight in the book, iran, russia, right now
  • 00:13:23.894 --> 00:13:27.430
  • Behind much of the chaos in the world.
  • 00:13:27.430 --> 00:13:30.300
  • Talk about that a bit, bill.
  • 00:13:30.300 --> 00:13:31.701
  • With iran in particular, it was like in 1979,
  • 00:13:31.701 --> 00:13:35.238
  • A great evil was unleashed not only upon the middle east
  • 00:13:35.238 --> 00:13:38.241
  • And the people of iran, but upon the world
  • 00:13:38.241 --> 00:13:40.644
  • That were still still dealing with today.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:13:43.613 --> 00:13:44.047
  • I mean, the shah
  • 00:13:44.047 --> 00:13:45.148
  • Was an evil guy, but he wasn't nearly at this level.
  • 00:13:45.148 --> 00:13:48.852
  • And the persian people said, no, you know,
  • 00:13:48.852 --> 00:13:51.154
  • We don't want him anymore because he's corrupt.
  • 00:13:51.154 --> 00:13:53.123
  • And he was.
  • 00:13:53.123 --> 00:13:54.257
  • But now we're going to get ayatollah khomeini
  • 00:13:54.257 --> 00:13:56.526
  • In from paris, and he's going to wipe out all the infidels.
  • 00:13:56.526 --> 00:13:59.696
  • I mean, come on, you know, the
  • 00:13:59.696 --> 00:14:02.565
  • The persian people allowed it,
  • 00:14:02.565 --> 00:14:05.869
  • And the russian people allow putin to do what he does.
  • 00:14:05.869 --> 00:14:09.639
  • And you go to china, he killed 20 million chinese.
  • 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:14.110
  • Mao did.
  • 00:14:14.110 --> 00:14:15.211
  • And his pictures everywhere.
  • 00:14:15.211 --> 00:14:17.047
  • Imagine if an american killed 20 million
  • 00:14:17.047 --> 00:14:20.083
  • Of his fellow countrymen when his picture be everywhere.
  • 00:14:20.083 --> 00:14:24.087
  • It's an insane world,
  • 00:14:24.587 --> 00:14:27.791
  • And you have to start to understand what evil is
  • 00:14:27.791 --> 00:14:31.628
  • And fight against it, or it becomes more pervasive.
  • 00:14:31.628 --> 00:14:35.732
  • Yeah, we've got this gathering storm.
  • 00:14:35.732 --> 00:14:37.367
  • It seems communist china, putin's russia, iran, north
  • 00:14:37.367 --> 00:14:40.403
  • Korea, you know president trump pretty well.
  • 00:14:40.403 --> 00:14:43.873
  • What's your sense, bill of his approach to confronting evil?
  • 00:14:43.873 --> 00:14:47.243
  • It seems like he's doing exactly that right now.
  • 00:14:47.243 --> 00:14:49.679
  • I think of obviously destroying iran's nuclear weapons program,
  • 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:53.183
  • Taking a tough line with putin and china.
  • 00:14:53.183 --> 00:14:55.752
  • What's your assessment as someone who knows him
  • 00:14:55.752 --> 00:14:57.354
  • Pretty well personally,
  • 00:14:57.354 --> 00:14:58.555
  • Of president trump's view on all of this, on the need
  • 00:14:58.555 --> 00:15:01.458
  • To confront evil?
  • 00:15:01.458 --> 00:15:03.026
  • Well, last thursday, he, asked me to come to yankee
  • 00:15:04.027 --> 00:15:06.629
  • Stadium for the 911 game, which i did
  • 00:15:06.629 --> 00:15:10.166
  • When the president asked you to do something, you do it.
  • 00:15:10.166 --> 00:15:13.303
  • And i gave him a copy of my book,
  • 00:15:14.070 --> 00:15:16.539
  • And i said, look, i know you're busy.
  • 00:15:16.539 --> 00:15:17.874
  • You might not have time to read the whole book,
  • 00:15:17.874 --> 00:15:19.376
  • But read the putin chapter, okay?
  • 00:15:19.376 --> 00:15:21.011
  • Because this is a guy you got to deal with,
  • 00:15:21.011 --> 00:15:23.013
  • And he's not the same guy that you were dealing with.
  • 00:15:23.013 --> 00:15:27.117
  • In your first term.
  • 00:15:27.584 --> 00:15:29.119
  • He's a lot worse now because that's what evil does.
  • 00:15:29.119 --> 00:15:31.855
  • If you embrace evil, you deteriorate.
  • 00:15:31.855 --> 00:15:35.091
  • And putin is a psychopath, a psychopath
  • 00:15:35.091 --> 00:15:37.460
  • With nuclear weapons and ultra dangerous.
  • 00:15:37.460 --> 00:15:41.297
  • But i do think that donald trump sees
  • 00:15:41.297 --> 00:15:43.967
  • And has clarity about danger.
  • 00:15:43.967 --> 00:15:47.203
  • That's the key word.
  • 00:15:47.670 --> 00:15:49.172
  • He sees the danger.
  • 00:15:49.172 --> 00:15:52.409
  • Up next, the assassination of charlie
  • 00:15:53.209 --> 00:15:55.545
  • Kirk was a clear example of evil on the rise.
  • 00:15:55.545 --> 00:15:59.416
  • But something very positive is coming out of it, bill
  • 00:15:59.416 --> 00:16:03.286
  • O'reilly explains after the break.
  • 00:16:03.286 --> 00:16:09.003
  • O'reilly explains after the break.
  • 00:16:09.003 --> 00:16:11.895
  • It seems like president trump in the u.s.
  • 00:16:12.762 --> 00:16:14.964
  • Right now is kind of a beacon of sanity
  • 00:16:14.964 --> 00:16:17.667
  • And common sense and peace through strength.
  • 00:16:17.667 --> 00:16:20.370
  • Bill, when you compare it to, say, canada,
  • 00:16:20.370 --> 00:16:22.439
  • Europe, australia, the rest of the western world,
  • 00:16:22.439 --> 00:16:25.375
  • Or what's left of it,
  • 00:16:25.375 --> 00:16:26.776
  • How concerned are you with evil rising?
  • 00:16:26.776 --> 00:16:29.345
  • Clearly in all quarters, and you documented in the book,
  • 00:16:29.345 --> 00:16:32.115
  • How concerned are you with the future of judeo-christian
  • 00:16:32.115 --> 00:16:35.819
  • Western civilization?
  • 00:16:35.819 --> 00:16:39.189
  • I'm not that concerned on a macro level.
  • 00:16:39.189 --> 00:16:42.759
  • I think the europeans have got a huge wake up call,
  • 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:46.162
  • On this putin situation,
  • 00:16:46.696 --> 00:16:49.299
  • Because they know they're next.
  • 00:16:49.299 --> 00:16:51.167
  • If he starts to, you know, when you're shooting missiles
  • 00:16:51.167 --> 00:16:54.838
  • Into poland, i mean, that's pretty much
  • 00:16:54.838 --> 00:16:56.539
  • Critical mass in the united states.
  • 00:16:56.539 --> 00:16:58.575
  • Here's something interesting you might want to think
  • 00:16:58.575 --> 00:17:00.310
  • About erick and your audience as well.
  • 00:17:00.310 --> 00:17:02.712
  • The legacy of charlie kirk is going to be that
  • 00:17:02.712 --> 00:17:07.050
  • That heinous crime
  • 00:17:07.484 --> 00:17:11.387
  • Has captured the attention of almost every single american.
  • 00:17:11.387 --> 00:17:16.426
  • Americans are engaged in that.
  • 00:17:17.026 --> 00:17:19.162
  • They know it's evil.
  • 00:17:19.162 --> 00:17:20.830
  • They know what happened.
  • 00:17:20.830 --> 00:17:22.632
  • The media can't spin it.
  • 00:17:22.632 --> 00:17:24.467
  • You can't. you're not going to forget it.
  • 00:17:24.467 --> 00:17:26.870
  • And i think there's going to be a resurrection of people
  • 00:17:26.870 --> 00:17:30.406
  • Saying enough
  • 00:17:30.406 --> 00:17:31.975
  • That we're going to fight evil in our own neighborhoods,
  • 00:17:31.975 --> 00:17:34.544
  • Our own families.
  • 00:17:34.544 --> 00:17:35.612
  • Sometimes we're not going to look away anymore.
  • 00:17:35.612 --> 00:17:38.948
  • If that happens, that will be mr.
  • 00:17:38.948 --> 00:17:41.684
  • Kirk's legacy.
  • 00:17:41.684 --> 00:17:42.619
  • And i think there's a good chance it may.
  • 00:17:42.619 --> 00:17:44.988
  • Yeah. amen, bill.
  • 00:17:44.988 --> 00:17:46.289
  • From your lips to god's ears and charlie,
  • 00:17:46.289 --> 00:17:48.825
  • For the great influence he had in life, it might sound crazy.
  • 00:17:48.825 --> 00:17:51.828
  • His impact and death may reach even further, and, as you said,
  • 00:17:51.828 --> 00:17:55.798
  • Could spark a resurgence
  • 00:17:55.798 --> 00:17:57.167
  • In not only in faith but in the american people.
  • 00:17:57.167 --> 00:17:59.335
  • And again, enough is enough.
  • 00:17:59.335 --> 00:18:01.838
  • Hey, an interesting chapter in the book.
  • 00:18:01.838 --> 00:18:03.640
  • Now, we've talked about tyrants and dictators,
  • 00:18:03.640 --> 00:18:06.809
  • A chapter on the captains of industry.
  • 00:18:06.809 --> 00:18:09.479
  • Now, a lot of us learned about them
  • 00:18:09.479 --> 00:18:10.980
  • In grade school, in high school.
  • 00:18:10.980 --> 00:18:12.382
  • Tell us about some of the evil that went on there.
  • 00:18:12.382 --> 00:18:14.918
  • Well, you go to new york, you go to rockefeller center, right?
  • 00:18:16.119 --> 00:18:19.122
  • Yeah.
  • 00:18:19.122 --> 00:18:20.390
  • You go to carnegie hall.
  • 00:18:20.390 --> 00:18:22.859
  • There's a, financial institution,
  • 00:18:22.859 --> 00:18:26.696
  • Morgan stanley.
  • 00:18:27.063 --> 00:18:29.032
  • All these guys were robber barons.
  • 00:18:29.032 --> 00:18:31.668
  • They made their gazillions
  • 00:18:31.668 --> 00:18:34.304
  • Off the backs of american laborers.
  • 00:18:34.304 --> 00:18:37.640
  • No safety miners getting killed.
  • 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:41.377
  • People, in fact, just getting burned up.
  • 00:18:41.377 --> 00:18:43.413
  • Eight year olds working in the factories.
  • 00:18:43.413 --> 00:18:46.249
  • And turn of the century, 20th century,
  • 00:18:46.249 --> 00:18:48.284
  • No protections for the workers.
  • 00:18:48.284 --> 00:18:50.286
  • And these robber barons gutted them.
  • 00:18:50.286 --> 00:18:53.623
  • It's.
  • 00:18:53.856 --> 00:18:54.824
  • And we tell the stories of how it happened.
  • 00:18:54.824 --> 00:18:56.559
  • I injected them into the book
  • 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:58.094
  • Because i wanted to bring in a hero.
  • 00:18:58.094 --> 00:19:00.029
  • The book needed, at that point, a dose of good.
  • 00:19:00.029 --> 00:19:04.000
  • And the dose of good was president theodore roosevelt,
  • 00:19:04.000 --> 00:19:07.070
  • Who went up against these robber barons, the gilded age people,
  • 00:19:07.070 --> 00:19:11.174
  • Very powerful people. to this day.
  • 00:19:11.174 --> 00:19:13.676
  • They're powerful even though they're dead.
  • 00:19:13.676 --> 00:19:15.912
  • Okay. and he beat them.
  • 00:19:15.912 --> 00:19:17.380
  • Roosevelt beat them and he slapped them down.
  • 00:19:18.248 --> 00:19:21.351
  • The supreme court sided with roosevelt,
  • 00:19:21.351 --> 00:19:23.586
  • And then worker protection started to rise.
  • 00:19:23.586 --> 00:19:26.856
  • That is exceeding the important chapter.
  • 00:19:26.856 --> 00:19:29.125
  • Know that evil can be defeated.
  • 00:19:29.125 --> 00:19:32.128
  • And teddy did it.
  • 00:19:32.128 --> 00:19:33.696
  • Yeah.
  • 00:19:33.696 --> 00:19:34.530
  • That was an eye opener for me, bill.
  • 00:19:34.530 --> 00:19:35.832
  • And it's such a great read all around.
  • 00:19:35.832 --> 00:19:37.767
  • At the end of the day.
  • 00:19:37.767 --> 00:19:39.302
  • Big takeaways from the book.
  • 00:19:39.302 --> 00:19:41.471
  • The results, obviously
  • 00:19:41.471 --> 00:19:42.672
  • The repercussions when good men stand aside
  • 00:19:42.672 --> 00:19:44.941
  • And do nothing in the face of evil.
  • 00:19:44.941 --> 00:19:46.876
  • Your big takeaways with the book and anything
  • 00:19:46.876 --> 00:19:50.747
  • You learned along the way.
  • 00:19:50.747 --> 00:19:51.781
  • Your historian
  • 00:19:51.781 --> 00:19:52.982
  • Obviously wrote many number one new york times bestsellers
  • 00:19:52.982 --> 00:19:55.151
  • On historical topics.
  • 00:19:55.151 --> 00:19:56.619
  • Anything you
  • 00:19:56.619 --> 00:19:57.453
  • Learned along the way from this book
  • 00:19:57.453 --> 00:19:59.255
  • With some fascinating, diabolical,
  • 00:19:59.255 --> 00:20:01.524
  • But fascinating historical figures?
  • 00:20:01.524 --> 00:20:04.560
  • I learn stuff from every book i,
  • 00:20:04.560 --> 00:20:07.330
  • I write because it takes a year to put them together,
  • 00:20:07.330 --> 00:20:10.366
  • And the research comes first.
  • 00:20:10.366 --> 00:20:12.568
  • And then on the storyteller, i tell the story,
  • 00:20:12.568 --> 00:20:15.705
  • But i think the most
  • 00:20:15.705 --> 00:20:16.839
  • Dramatic thing i learned was about putin's childhood,
  • 00:20:16.839 --> 00:20:20.143
  • The horrendous childhood that he had
  • 00:20:20.143 --> 00:20:23.379
  • In communist russia, in his soviet union,
  • 00:20:23.379 --> 00:20:26.816
  • And how that molded him into this unbelievable
  • 00:20:26.816 --> 00:20:30.320
  • Killing machine with no remorse, not
  • 00:20:30.320 --> 00:20:33.956
  • You don't have a human feeling in his whole body.
  • 00:20:33.956 --> 00:20:36.959
  • All right.
  • 00:20:36.959 --> 00:20:37.894
  • You got to understand where he came from
  • 00:20:37.894 --> 00:20:40.096
  • And how that happened.
  • 00:20:40.096 --> 00:20:41.464
  • To really understand a man.
  • 00:20:41.464 --> 00:20:43.533
  • And that's what i was talking to president trump about.
  • 00:20:43.533 --> 00:20:46.235
  • So trump had a vision of putin in his mind from the first term.
  • 00:20:46.235 --> 00:20:51.307
  • It's totally different now.
  • 00:20:51.307 --> 00:20:52.809
  • You know, in a different guy now.
  • 00:20:52.809 --> 00:20:54.577
  • And in order
  • 00:20:54.577 --> 00:20:55.712
  • To get anything done, in order to tamp or defeat evil,
  • 00:20:55.712 --> 00:20:58.748
  • Got to know you dealing with
  • 00:20:58.748 --> 00:21:00.249
  • Got to know the capacity and then you find a way.
  • 00:21:00.249 --> 00:21:03.286
  • There's always a way.
  • 00:21:03.286 --> 00:21:05.121
  • And i think putin will go down.
  • 00:21:05.121 --> 00:21:07.657
  • But boy it's one difficult problem, that's for sure.
  • 00:21:07.657 --> 00:21:10.993
  • No doubt. the world's largest nuclear arsenal.
  • 00:21:10.993 --> 00:21:13.930
  • And i think of sons who build the first rule of war.
  • 00:21:13.930 --> 00:21:16.899
  • Know your enemy and you lay it out
  • 00:21:16.899 --> 00:21:19.502
  • Beautifully in the book.
  • 00:21:19.502 --> 00:21:20.470
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  • Bill, we need your voice, my friend.
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  • God bless. keep it up, bill. we will see you again soon.
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  • Thanks again. bill o'reilly, the one and only.
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  • All right. take care, bill. god bless. thank you.
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  • Coming up, my final thoughts on why confronting
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  • Evil is more important now than ever before.
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  • Don't move.
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  • Don't move.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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  • As we wrap up,
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  • I think bill o'reilly's book is so timely because evil
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  • Is most certainly on the rise and as the body of christ,
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  • If we don't take the lead
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  • In confronting it, we're failing in our moral duty.
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  • I think of the book of ephesians, chapter
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  • Five, verses 11 and 12, which tell us have nothing to do
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  • With the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather
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  • Expose them.
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  • That is what we must do now.
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  • Someone who is absolutely doing
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  • That on the world stage is israeli prime minister
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  • Benjamin netanyahu.
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  • Tomorrow night here on stakelbeck
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  • Tonight we will have
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  • An encore presentation of my exclusive interview
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  • With the prime minister from his office in jerusalem.
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  • You will not want to miss that.
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  • Until then, god bless you and we'll see you soon.
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