Erick Stackelbeck, covers the rise of anti-Semitism in the UK, particularly targeting Jews. The show highlights the concerning trend of discrimination against Jews and Christians in the face of growing influence from Islamists and radical leftists. The episode discusses the impact of the tragic death of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, showcasing his unwavering faith and the revival it sparked among young people. Guests Frank Turek and Lucas Myles reflect on Charlie's legacy and the spiritual awakening taking place, while emphasizing the importance of standing firm in the face of cultural challenges.
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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: Faith That Outlives the Flesh | Stakelbeck Tonight | October 21, 2025
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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- I'm erick stackelbeck.
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- And when jews become open targets.
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- It's a pretty good indicator that a society is starting
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- To crumble.
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- Folks, history bears this out.
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- Time and time again.
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- Once a nation
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- Turns against the jews and the persecution begins.
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- That nation is headed for disaster.
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- That's one reason why
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- So many of us are concerned about great britain right now.
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- Not only has the uk let in waves of muslim immigrants
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- That are rapidly transforming its cities and towns,
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- But the brits are also governed by a woke left wing government
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- That seems hell bent
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- On destroying a great nation that once led the western world.
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- When islamists and the radical left are calling the shots, it's
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- Always bad news for the jews, not to mention christians.
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- But the jews are the canary in the coal mine.
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- Over the past week alone in the uk,
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- We've seen police in britain's second largest city, birmingham,
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- Banned fans of the israeli soccer team maccabi tel aviv.
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- The israeli team is scheduled to play
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- In birmingham on november 6th, but the police say
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- The presence of these fans is a security concern.
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- What a disgrace.
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- I'm sure the british police have no problem with muslim fans
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- Who bring palestinian flags to games.
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- We've seen it in britain time and time again.
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- But the star of david
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- Is apparently a provocation today in the uk.
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- Don't believe me?
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- Over the weekend,
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- Footage emerged of a jewish man in police custody in london.
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- The police told him that his star of david necklace
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- Was supposedly antagonizing pro-palestinian protesters
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- Nearby, so they brought him in for ten hours of questioning.
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- Ten hours?
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- Never mind the pro hamas mobs that have spent the past
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- Two years antagonizing everyone with genocidal chants
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- Of from the river to the sea, palestine will be free!
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- No, it's those jews and their pesky star of david
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- That are the real threat.
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- Folks, great britain is in big trouble.
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- Parts of london today are barely recognizable,
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- And the city is governed by a muslim leftist named sadiq khan.
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- If you think it can happen here.
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- Well, the frontrunner
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- To become new york city's next mayor when the election is held
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- Next month is zoran mamdani, a muslim communist?
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- Judeo christian western civilization
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- Is teetering on the brink.
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- And if not for president trump returning to office,
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- It would have already gone off a cliff.
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- Charlie kirk knew this very well.
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- Coming up, we'll talk to one of his close
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- Friends and advisers about charlie's fight
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- To save the west and how we must carry the torch.
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- That's next.
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- On september 10th, 2025, america
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- Lost a bold voice for biblical truth
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- When charlie kirk was assassinated
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- At utah valley university.
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- Frank turk was there with charlie on the day
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- He was martyred,
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- And he'd been a dear friend and mentor to him for years.
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- Frank is a renowned christian apologist and speaker
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- And host of the great podcast.
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- I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
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- He joins us now to not
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- Only remember charlie's legacy, but to break down the revival
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- That's now stirring in our nation.
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- Frank, thanks so much for joining us.
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- It's been said often in the wake of charlie's murder
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- That the devil badly overplayed his hand.
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- The ear.
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- And i thought we saw that on full display.
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- Frank at charlie's memorial service on september 21st.
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- You spoke powerfully there.
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- We saw top government officials
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- Proclaiming the gospel for tens of millions of people
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- Watching around the world.
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- Tell us a bit more about that memorial service
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- And what it sparked or helped spark in america.
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- It might actually be around the world, eric, as you see.
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- I mean, i've gotten emails.
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- I just got an email
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- The other day from a lady from sweden
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- Who's been an atheist for 26 years.
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- She goes, i'm a i'm a christian now because of charlie kirk.
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- From london, from australia, from denmark.
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- I'm getting emails and comments on our, on our podcast
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- About people becoming christians or recommitting their lives
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- To christ because of charlie kirk.
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- And of course, his assassination brought his great persona
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- And influence all around the world.
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- And you know, eric,
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- I don't know if this is true or not,
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- But it could turn out to be that charlie's influence
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- Will be bigger now than had he actually lived, because
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- So many people now are realizing how great he was,
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- And he still is.
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- He's just by jesus aside right now.
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- And so many people have been affected by him.
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- In fact,
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- My friend jack hibbs told me, you know, the day it happened,
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- He said
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- My granddaughter was crying and i was crying.
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- Now, how often do you have a public figure die
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- When you have three generations who are deeply moved by it?
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- Yeah.
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- You know, he i mean, he touched all generations.
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- He did from there, the youngest to the oldest.
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- Yeah.
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- And my 18 year old daughter had a similar reaction.
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- We shared a cry together.
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- She loved charlie, and she was
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- Reasonably apolitical until about a year ago.
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- She was watching charlie,
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- And she said, dad, charlie was my guy.
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- I mean, she didn't get excited
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- About me being on tv, but when she saw me
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- Interviewing charlie kirk, she got very excited.
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- Oh, yeah. dad, can i meet him?
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- That was the question.
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- Talk a bit more.
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- But when gavin newsom,
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- When gavin newsom says, my, my, my son wants to meet you,
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- You know, he's having an effect, right?
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- Exactly. hey. and talk about that effect.
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- My daughter's 18, frank.
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- Gen z. and she said, dad, i love you.
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- I listen to you.
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- But charlie just connected with me
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- Because he spoke directly to my generation, generation z.
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- Talk about the impact he's had on that generation
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- And how they could be the tip of the spear in this revival
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- That's stirring right now.
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- Yeah, well,
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- Of course
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- We want a spiritual revival,
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- And that will bring forth a political revival as well.
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- If it's just politics, it's going to be short lived.
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- But as you said, your daughter got more politically engaged
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- Because of, charlie spiritual influence.
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- And look,
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- Charlie said a month ago in an interview,
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- He said politics is peanuts compared to jesus.
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- The reason he did what he did was because
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- Of his great love for jesus, his savior, who died for him.
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- That's why he did all those good works.
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- And it's why i said at the at the memorial, charlie
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- Kirk is not in heaven because he died for his savior.
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- Charlie kirk is in heaven because the savior died for him.
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- He did all those good works because of his love for jesus.
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- And i think people saw
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- The genuineness of charlie
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- From the youngest generation to the oldest generation.
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- He's out there handing the microphone
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- To his opponents, saying, make your case, let's talk.
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- And yet the left called him a fascist.
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- Eric, how many fascists do you know
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- Who give the microphone to their opponents and say,
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- Say whatever you want to say. let's have a conversation.
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- No, the fascists are the ones that killed him.
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- And, i pray for that man
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- That he would come to know jesus in the night.
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- If he is the true killer, and i think he is, then i.
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- Then i hope he's executed, because that's that's
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- What the government supposed to do
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- Is supposed to execute justice on the wrongdoer,
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- To show the value of life he took, and to also protect
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- Innocent people from evil.
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- Amen, frank.
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- Well said.
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- And talk a bit more about charlie,
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- The man and the man that you knew.
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- And for me, it was interesting, frank.
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- I didn't know charlie well, but i met him for the first time
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- About eight years ago.
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- He was a young, fiery, conservative activist,
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- Very impressive.
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- But to see his trajectory over the past few years,
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- His growth in the lord was just incredible.
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- He was a mighty man of god at just 31 years old.
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- Talk more about the charlie you knew
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- And his spiritual growth
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- As you walked alongside with him in that journey.
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- Well, when you when you,
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- Try and mentor
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- Somebody smarter than you, it could be difficult, right?
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- Charlie was smarter than me.
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- But the only thing that surpassed
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- His intellect was his humility.
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- So the few things that i knew that he wanted to know,
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- He was ready to hear.
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- And it wasn't just me.
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- He had other people around him.
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- He'd always ask, you know, what do you think about this?
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- Could i answer this better?
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- How would you, you know, what would you do here?
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- What would you do there?
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- He was always trying to learn.
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- And the fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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- And he who is wise listens.
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- And that's what charlie did.
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- And just to show you, one of the gentlemen
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- That's been with him
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- A long time, andrew, who runs the, the campus
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- Event, said the first time i met charlie kirk was in 2016.
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- He was sitting in a cafeteria
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- With his bible open and highlighters out.
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- The last time i saw charlie kirk was on the
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- On the the in the suv when we were heading to the event,
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- And he said he was talking to you about the bible.
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- So mickey mccoy, who was a hero on
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- On september 10th and remains a hero, you know, was,
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- Charlie's chief of staff.
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- Now, eric is chief of staff.
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- Mickey just texted me, and he said charlie
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- Was at the peak of his faith when he died.
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- That's powerful.
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- Incredible.
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- And frank charlie's faith didn't end with him.
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- It ignited a movement.
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- Up next, frank turek is back
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- With us to talk about turning points.
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- New chapter with erica kirk
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- And a youth revival gaining speed that's coming up.
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- Don't move.
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- Don't move.
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- Frank, you mentioned erica.
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- She seems to be at the peak of her faith right now.
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- Incredibly, at the wake of horrific,
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- Horrific tragedy and destruction to her family.
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- You've called her a force of nature,
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- And i think rightly so.
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- Talk about erica,
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- How she's doing
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- And her role going forward and carrying on charlie's legacy
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- And the legacy a turning point.
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- She is a mighty woman of god in her own right.
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- She is especially two days after the event
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- When she did that national address, and she said
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- That this widow is not going to be denied.
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- We are going to expand charlie's legacy, keep it going
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- And she is the right choice to do that.
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- Despite her grief, she knows that jesus wants us to go on.
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- Charlie wants us to go on.
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- So we're moving on.
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- And erica is the leader now. you know, i used to,
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- I used to send charlie a text.
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- I'd say, hey, here's the ticket in 2028, vance kirk.
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- And he would just smile back.
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- I'm not giving up on vance kirk.
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- Well, i think erica,
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- She'd be a great first woman vice president and president.
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- She's that solid.
- 00:11:05.588 --> 00:11:08.891
- And only the holy spirit could motivate someone
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- To forgive the murderer of her husband.
- 00:11:11.994 --> 00:11:16.599
- I mean, you don't find this in any other ideology,
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- Any other religion.
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- Love your enemies. pray for those who persecute you.
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- Forgive just like jesus.
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- Forget forgave you.
- 00:11:24.607 --> 00:11:26.909
- I mean, that comes from the holy spirit
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- To forgive the person that destroyed your husband and
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- Has put so much pain in your life
- 00:11:33.215 --> 00:11:36.352
- That only comes from the holy spirit.
- 00:11:36.352 --> 00:11:38.354
- And erica has yielded to the holy spirit,
- 00:11:38.354 --> 00:11:40.422
- And she knows she's going to see charlie again.
- 00:11:40.422 --> 00:11:42.124
- You know, we don't mourn as those
- 00:11:42.124 --> 00:11:43.392
- Without hope, says paul in first thessalonians four write.
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- Encourage people with these words.
- 00:11:46.829 --> 00:11:48.364
- He says that we're going to see our loved ones again.
- 00:11:48.364 --> 00:11:51.934
- Of course we're going to be united with jesus as well.
- 00:11:51.934 --> 00:11:54.904
- So there is a bright future.
- 00:11:54.904 --> 00:11:56.772
- We have to keep an eternal perspective.
- 00:11:56.772 --> 00:11:59.141
- But while we still have time here on this earth, there
- 00:11:59.141 --> 00:12:02.478
- We have to do whatever we can to know jesus and to make him
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- Known, to make heaven crowded, as erica would say.
- 00:12:06.315 --> 00:12:09.451
- Yeah.
- 00:12:09.451 --> 00:12:10.653
- And no doubt, erica forgiving charlie's murder in front
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- Of the eyes of the world.
- 00:12:13.556 --> 00:12:14.557
- What a profound proclamation
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- Of the gospel, frank, that touched, i think,
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- So many people.
- 00:12:18.427 --> 00:12:19.762
- You would hope it even touched some,
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- Of those who were initially celebrating charlie's death.
- 00:12:22.765 --> 00:12:26.001
- I'm sad to say it's difficult frank to even talk about.
- 00:12:26.001 --> 00:12:28.804
- But it seems in america right now,
- 00:12:28.804 --> 00:12:30.306
- In the wake of charlie's death, the dividing line is drawn.
- 00:12:30.306 --> 00:12:33.609
- I mean, this is
- 00:12:33.609 --> 00:12:34.677
- A spiritual battle, and it seems to be intensifying.
- 00:12:34.677 --> 00:12:38.247
- It's good and evil.
- 00:12:38.247 --> 00:12:39.815
- Charlie was martyred for his faith.
- 00:12:39.815 --> 00:12:42.351
- And as the light grows, i guess we have to expect the darkness
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- To continue to grow as well.
- 00:12:46.288 --> 00:12:47.556
- Right?
- 00:12:47.556 --> 00:12:48.257
- And shine that light into it.
- 00:12:48.257 --> 00:12:50.693
- Yeah.
- 00:12:50.693 --> 00:12:51.627
- And what people confuse eric in our culture
- 00:12:51.627 --> 00:12:53.462
- Today is they think love means approval.
- 00:12:53.462 --> 00:12:56.799
- Love does not mean approval.
- 00:12:56.799 --> 00:12:58.367
- Every parent knows this.
- 00:12:58.367 --> 00:12:59.602
- If you approve of everything your kid wants to do,
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- You're not loving.
- 00:13:01.604 --> 00:13:02.938
- You're enabling evil.
- 00:13:02.938 --> 00:13:04.640
- So the person that
- 00:13:04.640 --> 00:13:06.075
- Allegedly shot him and he appears to be the guy
- 00:13:06.075 --> 00:13:09.211
- Hated charlie because probably his faith caused him
- 00:13:09.211 --> 00:13:13.182
- To have a particular view of transgenderism.
- 00:13:13.182 --> 00:13:16.886
- And that view is motivated by charlie's love for jesus
- 00:13:16.886 --> 00:13:20.356
- And his love for people.
- 00:13:20.356 --> 00:13:21.924
- He didn't want to approve of something
- 00:13:21.924 --> 00:13:23.859
- That was going to harm people.
- 00:13:23.859 --> 00:13:25.661
- So he said, in order to love you, i can't.
- 00:13:25.661 --> 00:13:29.131
- I can't confirm what you want me to confirm.
- 00:13:29.131 --> 00:13:31.667
- I can't affirm what you want me to affirm.
- 00:13:31.667 --> 00:13:33.903
- That wouldn't be loving.
- 00:13:33.903 --> 00:13:35.437
- I'm not going to affirm you in your
- 00:13:35.437 --> 00:13:38.240
- In your mental health crisis and your delusion.
- 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.910
- I'm going to try and help you.
- 00:13:40.910 --> 00:13:42.611
- But of course, the people on the left don't see it that way.
- 00:13:42.611 --> 00:13:47.750
- They think you have to approve of somebody to love them.
- 00:13:47.750 --> 00:13:50.452
- Well, they don't approve of our position yet.
- 00:13:50.452 --> 00:13:52.922
- Some of them will say we love.
- 00:13:52.922 --> 00:13:54.123
- You know, love does not require approval.
- 00:13:54.123 --> 00:13:56.725
- Love requires you to seek what's best
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- For the other person, and that requires you
- 00:13:58.527 --> 00:14:01.430
- To often oppose what they're going to do
- 00:14:01.430 --> 00:14:03.799
- And what's best for the other person.
- 00:14:03.799 --> 00:14:05.167
- Whatever god wills, not what we want, what god wants.
- 00:14:05.167 --> 00:14:08.504
- Frank. well said.
- 00:14:08.504 --> 00:14:09.505
- And charlie always responded with such grace.
- 00:14:09.505 --> 00:14:11.473
- And you said earlier, i mean the epitome of free speech
- 00:14:11.473 --> 00:14:15.244
- Prove me wrong at his events.
- 00:14:15.244 --> 00:14:16.779
- And he was attacked many times
- 00:14:16.779 --> 00:14:18.547
- By radical leftist at these gatherings.
- 00:14:18.547 --> 00:14:20.749
- But he always responded with a smile on his face in grace
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- And in truth.
- 00:14:24.853 --> 00:14:25.988
- Hey, last question.
- 00:14:25.988 --> 00:14:27.189
- It's been a very difficult few weeks for you, obviously,
- 00:14:27.189 --> 00:14:29.692
- But you're still keeping very busy.
- 00:14:29.692 --> 00:14:31.060
- You're about to embark on a trip,
- 00:14:31.060 --> 00:14:32.294
- A tour of the middle east and you've got this great podcast.
- 00:14:32.294 --> 00:14:35.898
- Tell us a bit more about a frank before you go.
- 00:14:35.898 --> 00:14:37.800
- I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
- 00:14:37.800 --> 00:14:40.703
- Maybe the greatest podcast name title of all time.
- 00:14:40.703 --> 00:14:44.073
- Tell us more about it where we can find it.
- 00:14:44.073 --> 00:14:46.342
- It's actually the title of our book by the same name.
- 00:14:46.342 --> 00:14:48.811
- I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
- 00:14:48.811 --> 00:14:50.479
- And, that is available on youtube.
- 00:14:50.479 --> 00:14:54.049
- It's wherever you get podcasts, apple podcasts, spotify,
- 00:14:54.049 --> 00:14:57.920
- But i did a couple of podcasts explaining
- 00:14:57.920 --> 00:15:00.789
- What happened that day
- 00:15:00.789 --> 00:15:01.724
- Because i was with charlie
- 00:15:01.724 --> 00:15:02.791
- And actually helped taken to the hospital.
- 00:15:02.791 --> 00:15:05.594
- And that one is called the greatness of charlie kirk,
- 00:15:05.594 --> 00:15:08.797
- An eyewitness account of his life and martyrdom.
- 00:15:08.797 --> 00:15:11.667
- So if people want to see that it's a couple of weeks ago,
- 00:15:11.667 --> 00:15:15.371
- Five days after the murder,
- 00:15:15.971 --> 00:15:19.375
- And, then there's a second one
- 00:15:19.375 --> 00:15:21.210
- On behind the scenes at the memorial service.
- 00:15:21.210 --> 00:15:24.279
- That's on our youtube channel as well.
- 00:15:25.114 --> 00:15:27.116
- And then we do we do two podcasts every week.
- 00:15:27.116 --> 00:15:29.251
- And normally it's presenting evidence
- 00:15:29.251 --> 00:15:30.619
- That christianity is true.
- 00:15:30.619 --> 00:15:31.620
- We're dealing with these cultural issues,
- 00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:33.022
- Trying to teach people the truth about christianity,
- 00:15:33.022 --> 00:15:36.792
- The evidence for it, and how to refute false claims.
- 00:15:36.792 --> 00:15:39.962
- So we talk a lot about logic and the self-defeating nature of
- 00:15:39.962 --> 00:15:43.432
- So many of these,
- 00:15:43.432 --> 00:15:45.234
- Ideologies that are out there that are derailing our kids.
- 00:15:45.234 --> 00:15:49.438
- So it's called i don't have enough faith to be an atheist.
- 00:15:49.438 --> 00:15:52.141
- And i say we do two a week.
- 00:15:52.141 --> 00:15:53.976
- Yeah. and, frank, it's great stuff, folks.
- 00:15:53.976 --> 00:15:55.778
- Be sure to check it out.
- 00:15:55.778 --> 00:15:56.779
- Follow frank also across social media.
- 00:15:56.779 --> 00:15:59.114
- Frank god bless my friend.
- 00:15:59.114 --> 00:16:00.349
- We can't thank you enough for joining us.
- 00:16:00.349 --> 00:16:02.117
- I know how difficult it is for you to talk about it,
- 00:16:02.117 --> 00:16:04.553
- But we're keeping charlie's legacy, his memory, alive.
- 00:16:04.553 --> 00:16:07.156
- You're at the forefront of that.
- 00:16:07.156 --> 00:16:08.424
- Thanks for all you do, frank. god bless.
- 00:16:08.424 --> 00:16:09.892
- We'll see you again soon.
- 00:16:09.892 --> 00:16:11.093
- Up next, lucas myles joins us to unpack the charlie
- 00:16:11.093 --> 00:16:14.630
- Kirk effect.
- 00:16:14.630 --> 00:16:15.597
- Is this the turning point for gen z?
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- That's next. stick around.
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- That's next. stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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- We're seeing
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- Some very encouraging reports that church attendance is up 15%
- 00:16:30.511 --> 00:16:34.549
- And bible sales are surging since charlie kirk's death
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- Last month.
- 00:16:38.119 --> 00:16:39.253
- Faith leaders are calling it the charlie kirk effect,
- 00:16:39.253 --> 00:16:41.923
- Saying charlie's life
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- And death are driving young people back to christ.
- 00:16:43.391 --> 00:16:47.161
- Lucas myles knew charlie well and saw his impact firsthand.
- 00:16:47.161 --> 00:16:50.898
- He's senior director of tp, usa faith, host of the lucas
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- Myles show and author of a great new book called pagan
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- Threat confronting america's godless uprising.
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- Lucas, welcome. always great to see you.
- 00:17:01.509 --> 00:17:04.278
- What have you seen personally?
- 00:17:04.278 --> 00:17:05.680
- Lift your head up tp usa faith, of course.
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- Have you seen personally
- 00:17:08.216 --> 00:17:09.484
- This charlie kirk effect over the past few weeks?
- 00:17:09.484 --> 00:17:12.253
- We see tp usa chapters exploding around the country,
- 00:17:12.253 --> 00:17:16.991
- But is the faith angle among young people a big part of that?
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- Eric, first off, thanks for having you on the program.
- 00:17:22.930 --> 00:17:24.999
- Absolutely.
- 00:17:24.999 --> 00:17:25.766
- I mean, look, we're
- 00:17:25.766 --> 00:17:26.868
- Watching all this unfold, certainly still through,
- 00:17:26.868 --> 00:17:29.470
- A grief filled lens, but, it is overwhelming
- 00:17:29.470 --> 00:17:32.440
- To see what god's doing on the other side of this tragedy.
- 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:35.543
- The charlie kirk effect.
- 00:17:35.543 --> 00:17:36.577
- It very much is a real thing.
- 00:17:36.577 --> 00:17:37.945
- I've got a 45ft banner on my church of charlie.
- 00:17:37.945 --> 00:17:41.549
- Just honoring him and just his martyrdom.
- 00:17:41.549 --> 00:17:44.152
- And we have seen our church attendance literally double,
- 00:17:44.152 --> 00:17:47.088
- Since this has taken place.
- 00:17:47.088 --> 00:17:48.489
- And it's just stayed that way for now for sundays in a row.
- 00:17:48.489 --> 00:17:51.425
- And then some.
- 00:17:51.425 --> 00:17:52.293
- And so,
- 00:17:52.293 --> 00:17:53.461
- I think we're, we're hearing similar reports
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- From churches across the country.
- 00:17:55.129 --> 00:17:56.430
- I think 15% right now is
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- The national average is being reported.
- 00:17:57.798 --> 00:18:00.334
- I'm confident
- 00:18:00.334 --> 00:18:01.502
- That doctor george barna or somebody is going to come out
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- With some better numbers in the future.
- 00:18:03.271 --> 00:18:04.739
- But my guess is that mainline churches
- 00:18:04.739 --> 00:18:06.841
- That have been weaker on the issues might be up to 3%,
- 00:18:06.841 --> 00:18:09.844
- And churches that have been standing
- 00:18:09.844 --> 00:18:11.012
- Strong are probably up 30 to 50%.
- 00:18:11.012 --> 00:18:13.314
- Amazing.
- 00:18:13.314 --> 00:18:14.448
- Lucas, what was it you knew charlie well, of course.
- 00:18:14.448 --> 00:18:16.217
- Worked alongside him on a lot of projects.
- 00:18:16.217 --> 00:18:18.286
- What was it about him
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- That made him resonate so well with young people?
- 00:18:19.987 --> 00:18:23.424
- You know, i think this generation
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- Has really been craving, authenticity.
- 00:18:25.159 --> 00:18:27.328
- And, you know, charlie had that in spades.
- 00:18:27.328 --> 00:18:29.697
- There was such a uniqueness about him.
- 00:18:29.697 --> 00:18:31.532
- This generation wants a confident voice,
- 00:18:31.532 --> 00:18:33.901
- But they don't want an arrogant voice.
- 00:18:33.901 --> 00:18:35.469
- And i think charlie just struck that that,
- 00:18:35.469 --> 00:18:38.406
- That chord between having humility,
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- Being willing to hand the mic
- 00:18:40.775 --> 00:18:42.143
- To the other side and listen to them and
- 00:18:42.143 --> 00:18:44.111
- And ask them questions and really,
- 00:18:44.111 --> 00:18:46.013
- Truly hear what they're saying.
- 00:18:46.013 --> 00:18:47.748
- But also, he knew who he was.
- 00:18:47.748 --> 00:18:50.318
- He was confident in his own beliefs.
- 00:18:50.318 --> 00:18:51.752
- He was confident in the time that he had spent
- 00:18:51.752 --> 00:18:53.854
- Studying, you know, whether it was our nation's
- 00:18:53.854 --> 00:18:55.323
- Founding or the word of god.
- 00:18:55.323 --> 00:18:56.991
- And he was able to bring that to people
- 00:18:56.991 --> 00:18:58.859
- And was believable because he had the facts to back it up.
- 00:18:58.859 --> 00:19:02.630
- And not only just the facts, he had the he had the personal,
- 00:19:02.630 --> 00:19:06.000
- Commitment to the truth, his life,
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- He had worked these things out in its day to day personal life.
- 00:19:07.902 --> 00:19:10.838
- Who you saw from the stage?
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- That was charlie kirk was who he was
- 00:19:13.007 --> 00:19:14.742
- When he was off the stage.
- 00:19:14.742 --> 00:19:16.477
- He was, as i've said before, he was probably
- 00:19:16.477 --> 00:19:18.346
- The most integrity filled person i've ever met.
- 00:19:18.346 --> 00:19:20.881
- He truly practice what he preached, and he.
- 00:19:20.881 --> 00:19:22.850
- And he lived that out, and he dedicated his life,
- 00:19:22.850 --> 00:19:25.152
- You know, to impacting others with that same message.
- 00:19:25.152 --> 00:19:27.188
- Erica kirk,
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- A force of nature in her own right, a mighty woman of god.
- 00:19:28.456 --> 00:19:30.992
- I would say for sure. now, heading up turning point.
- 00:19:30.992 --> 00:19:33.728
- What's the direction of turning point now, lucas?
- 00:19:33.728 --> 00:19:36.063
- Turning point writ large, but also tp usa faith,
- 00:19:36.063 --> 00:19:39.967
- Which you had up.
- 00:19:39.967 --> 00:19:41.469
- Yeah, absolutely.
- 00:19:41.902 --> 00:19:43.104
- So i've been in this role for about the last 18 months.
- 00:19:43.104 --> 00:19:44.538
- You know, god is the one who brings revival.
- 00:19:44.538 --> 00:19:46.974
- But we get to help steward it by moving it forward.
- 00:19:46.974 --> 00:19:49.677
- Erica is, you know, she's the right choice for this.
- 00:19:49.677 --> 00:19:51.912
- She's a stabilizing factor.
- 00:19:51.912 --> 00:19:53.214
- As soon as she was named, i think everybody in the staff
- 00:19:53.214 --> 00:19:55.216
- Just took a sigh of relief.
- 00:19:55.216 --> 00:19:56.917
- The board made the right decision.
- 00:19:56.917 --> 00:19:58.152
- There was really probably no question
- 00:19:58.152 --> 00:19:59.420
- That she was the right person.
- 00:19:59.420 --> 00:20:01.055
- But she's got the whole organization behind her in this.
- 00:20:01.055 --> 00:20:04.091
- Obviously, we want to give her time
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- To grieve and to be able to, you know, just, you know,
- 00:20:05.459 --> 00:20:09.697
- You know, figure out how to put one foot in front of the other
- 00:20:09.697 --> 00:20:12.199
- After such devastating loss of her husband and, and,
- 00:20:12.199 --> 00:20:15.436
- You know, charlie was loved by everybody,
- 00:20:15.436 --> 00:20:17.071
- But he was certainly loved by erica the most.
- 00:20:17.071 --> 00:20:19.240
- And but,
- 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:20.107
- You know,
- 00:20:20.107 --> 00:20:20.975
- She's got the whole support here of,
- 00:20:20.975 --> 00:20:21.976
- I think, the nation behind her right now
- 00:20:21.976 --> 00:20:23.711
- Cheering her on as she steps into this role.
- 00:20:23.711 --> 00:20:25.613
- And she's going to do just great.
- 00:20:25.613 --> 00:20:27.248
- I think turning points a great hands.
- 00:20:27.248 --> 00:20:28.983
- You know, charlie found people that felt like him, worked
- 00:20:28.983 --> 00:20:32.019
- Like him, had the tenacity that he has, and he empowered them.
- 00:20:32.019 --> 00:20:35.690
- He brought the best out of them, and he put them in place.
- 00:20:35.690 --> 00:20:38.025
- And, you know, we're here dedicated to that at tpac faith,
- 00:20:38.025 --> 00:20:40.928
- You know, we're more than committed
- 00:20:40.928 --> 00:20:42.163
- Than ever,
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- To helping to, you know, really stamp out
- 00:20:43.164 --> 00:20:44.832
- Wokeism from the american church to unify the church,
- 00:20:44.832 --> 00:20:47.935
- You know, around primary doctrine.
- 00:20:47.935 --> 00:20:49.437
- We've got a lot of work to do.
- 00:20:49.437 --> 00:20:50.604
- We have 4000 new churches that have signed up with us,
- 00:20:50.604 --> 00:20:53.607
- Since, charlie was killed.
- 00:20:53.607 --> 00:20:55.509
- But we have to vet those churches.
- 00:20:55.509 --> 00:20:56.711
- We have to make sure where they're at.
- 00:20:56.711 --> 00:20:57.878
- We have to know that they're
- 00:20:57.878 --> 00:20:59.113
- Serious about the undertaking of working alongside of us.
- 00:20:59.113 --> 00:21:01.816
- And we've got, you know,
- 00:21:01.816 --> 00:21:02.817
- There's about 400,000 churches in this country.
- 00:21:02.817 --> 00:21:05.386
- We've got about 8000 churches that that
- 00:21:05.386 --> 00:21:07.288
- Have committed themselves.
- 00:21:07.288 --> 00:21:08.389
- We got a long way to go, but we're up for the task.
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- Lucas. that's so encouraging.
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- Stirrings of revival.
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- Hey, we can't let you go without asking
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- About your great book, pagan threat.
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- Tell us why.
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- It's a cautionary tale for america.
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- I wrote pagan threat.
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- Really? as a,
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- As a response to my previous book work.
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- Jesus.
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- I saw that
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- Although i had written a lot about how wokeism had affected
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- The church and infiltrated the church,
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- There was a real threat that i think
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- The left has changed their playbook a little bit.
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- And instead of using christianity
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- As the vehicle for marxism,
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- They're now
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- Trying to kind of supplant christianity
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- As the dominant worldview in america.
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- They've been very successful up until recently.
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- And doing that.
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- I think we took some ground back in the last 30 days.
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- But they're trying to wipe away the memory of christianity
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- So they can usher in this pagan worldview that is more,
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- Affirming of marxist, you know, agenda points and ideology
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- That's going to further support things
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- Like abortion and,
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- And transgenderism and open borders
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- And all of these different components.
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- So i wrote this book really for parents,
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- Grandparents, church leaders,
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- To give them a roadmap on
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- How we take our country back and reach this next generation.
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- Lucas.
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- Great stuff as always, by the way, woke
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- Jesus also a great book.
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- Pick them up both now amazon.com wherever books are sold folks,
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- And be sure to follow lucas on x and across social media.
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- Lucas, always great to see you.
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- God bless. keep up the great work.
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- Coming up, my final thoughts on the charlie kirk effect.
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- That's next. stick around.
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- That's next. stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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- As we wrap up here, we've been talking about
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- The western world, in essence going off a cliff.
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- And when you abandon god that's what happens.
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- I think of the book of job chapter 21, verse 14.
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- Yet they say to god, leave us alone.
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- We have no desire to know your ways.
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- Well, the effect of that.
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- You see it playing out in real time
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- Right now in western europe, in particular in the uk.
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- Pray for revival, not only in america it's here,
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- But for europe as well.
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- The gospel used to go out from europe for centuries.
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- It needs to come back.
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- Hey, coming up on thursday, lisa smith is here.
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- Great investigative journalist.
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- You won't believe what china's doing in our country.
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- You won't want to miss that, folks.
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- Until then, god bless you and we'll see you soon.
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