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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: February 4, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight | February 4, 2025
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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- I'm erick stakelbeck and maximum pressure is back.
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- President trump and israeli prime
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- Minister benjamin netanyahu met today
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- At the white house and it's very clear
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- That the two leaders are on the same page
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- When it comes
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- To the iranian regime, which means the maximum pressure
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- Campaign president trump employed against iran during
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- His first term is about to return in full force.
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- The goal here is to use heavy sanctions and economic
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- Pressure to basically stop all iranian oil exports.
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- Now, oil is the lifeblood of iran's economy
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- Without the ability to export it.
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- The iranian regime is staring at a massive economic disaster,
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- And that's exactly the point.
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- The trump administration wants to squeeze iran so badly
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- That the ayatollahs give up any hope
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- Of developing nuclear weapons.
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- Folks, remember
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- Iran's regime has already been severely weakened over the past
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- Few months.
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- Israel has decimated
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- Iran's terror proxies like hamas and hezbollah,
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- Leading to the collapse of the assad regime in syria.
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- As a result, iran's ring of fire is now in ruins.
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- And oh yeah, israeli airstrikes destroyed iran's air defenses
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- Back in october.
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- The bottom line is that the iranian regime
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- Has never been weaker than it is right now.
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- And if israel either alone or with help from the u.s.,
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- Wants to take advantage of this golden opportunity and destroy
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- Iran's nuclear facilities, now seems the perfect time.
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- Iran's leaders know this.
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- That's why they're reportedly
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- Looking to speed up their nuclear development
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- And find a shortcut to the bomb before it's too late.
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- Meanwhile, according to the wall street
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- Journal, the trump administration is set to supply
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- Israel with a $1 billion military aid package,
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- Including thousands of £1,000 bombs.
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- Call me crazy, but those sound like the kind of heavy bombs
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- That would come in very handy
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- If you're trying to destroy nuclear facilities
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- That are embedded deep underground.
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- I've said that 2025 will be the year of reckoning
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- For iran's nuclear weapons program.
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- And today's meeting between
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- Trump and bibi made that even more clear.
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- Coming up, we're joined by a former
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- Top spokesman for the israel defense forces
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- To break down today's white house meeting and why
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- Iran's wicked regime should be very concerned.
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- And it all starts now.
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- Did we just
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- Witness the iranian regime's worst nightmare?
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- The sight of donald trump
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- And benjamin netanyahu together at the white house today
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- Has iran's mullahs scrambling to project strength.
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- But could their days be numbered?
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- Joining us now to break it down is our good friend,
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- Lieutenant colonel jonathan conricus,
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- Former idf spokesperson, senior fellow at ftd
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- And host of the bottom line show.
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- Jonathan, always great to see you, my friend.
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- Hey, it seems that trump and bibi are very much
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- On the same page when it comes to stopping a nuclear iran.
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- Maximum pressure is back on the table, thankfully.
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- But, jonathan, at the end of the day,
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- Do you believe iran's nuclear ambitions can be stopped
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- With anything short of military action?
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- Well, eric, thank you for having me back.
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- Always a pleasure.
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- I wish we could be talking about, you know, nice things,
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- But we always talk about security and war and the crazy
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- And islamist states with all kinds of nuclear aspirations.
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- But that is what we discuss.
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- Listen, i do not think that this iranian regime
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- Will go back from their number two goal.
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- Their number one goal
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- Is to stay in power and continue to oppress the iranian people.
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- That's always the number one goal of any totalitarian regime.
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- And the number two goal
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- Is to acquire nuclear military capabilities.
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- They have gone too far and spent too much money
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- And made too many sacrifices to backtrack now.
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- And therefore, i don't think that the
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- The other options are really important
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- And will force the iranians to back down.
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- I think at this stage, after so many years of negotiations
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- And sanctions that have been on and off and talks
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- And delegations and all that,
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- We've gone beyond the point of no return.
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- And the only way to force iran out
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- Of becoming a nuclear military menace
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- For the entire region and the world,
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- I think is to use force.
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- Yeah, and jonathan, this seems like a golden opportunity to do
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- Just that.
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- Look there, ring of fire largely smashed.
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- Their air defenses have been destroyed as well.
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- And yet, as i mentioned,
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- They're trying to project strength here, jonathan.
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- They unveiled this so-called underground
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- Missile city yesterday
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- And they tested cruise missiles over the weekend.
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- How strong is iran militarily at this point?
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- Is this kind of all bark with very little bite?
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- Well, i think it's always very
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- Important to respect your enemy and never underestimate.
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- And we've seen what happens when you underestimate
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- And miscalculate and don't understand
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- The strategic intentions of your enemy.
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- And i don't think that israel or the u.s.
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- Is are understate the underestimating the
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- Capabilities of iran.
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- However, we've seen that in the latest real world
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- Confrontations, both offensive and defensive
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- Between the islamic republic of iran and israel.
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- And israel had the support of the united states, u.k.,
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- France and a few other countries.
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- Israel was very dominant, both in defending itself
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- With the help of friends.
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- And in then striking back at iran.
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- And so i think we can learn from that.
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- And i think i agree with you that iran today is more exposed,
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- Less strong,
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- More vulnerable militarily, economically, socially.
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- But i would advise caution.
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- And i think that israeli planners
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- And the israeli air force
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- Mossad are very careful when approaching the iranians.
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- Careful, but resolute.
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- Yeah, well said, jonathan.
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- Do you think now that it's terror,
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- Proxies are in dire straits?
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- Hezbollah, hamas weakened? of course.
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- Assad collapses in syria.
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- Do you see a scenario here, jonathan, where iran possibly
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- Tries to draw closer to nation states, russia, china?
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- Is that in the cards perhaps as they try to cling on to power?
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- Yeah, i think that what the islamic republic of iran
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- Will do is to entrench they're already part of
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- The china russia axis.
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- They're already on the wrong side of the of the world.
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- And i think that what they will do is to raise their bets
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- And to entrench themselves even more
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- When it comes to their attempts to export
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- Oil and evade sanctions,
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- Even with the
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- Presidential memorandum now with maximum pressure.
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- I think they will try to do more with china.
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- I think they will deepen
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- Their strategic cooperation with russia.
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- They will try to get more missile technology.
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- They will try to advance their satellite capabilities
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- And perhaps even get nuclear knowledge from the russians.
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- Who knows?
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- Bottom line, i think it's pretty clear
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- When you zoom out and you look at the globe from
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- From the moon, you can see that there's basically two camps.
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- One is led by the u.s.
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- And israel and saudi arabia and many sunni countries
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- In the middle east are on that side
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- Now with reinvigorated leadership
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- Of the united states of america.
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- And on the other side of the other camp is iran.
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- And together with china
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- And russia and north korea and other totalitarian regimes.
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- So it's a fight against bad against bad countries
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- That are oppressive, regimes
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- That are a threat to the region and to global order.
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- And that's how i see it.
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- And israel happens to be not by chance, together with the u.s.
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- Fighting against those.
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- Yeah. jonathan, great breakdown as always, my friend.
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- The battle lines have been drawn.
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- There's really no gray areas here. it's good and evil.
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- Jonathan, you do a better job
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- Than anyone of breaking it all down.
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- Check them out, folks on x across social media,
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- Of course, the bottom line show and jonathan conricus,
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- Thanks as always, my friend. god bless.
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- Keep up the great work. we will see you again soon.
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- And coming up after the break,
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- We're going to continue this conversation
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- On the world's most chaotic and volatile region.
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- Everything unfolding in the middle east,
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- Why it matters to you with a middle east all star panel.
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- That's next. don't move.
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- That's next. don't move.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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- As we've been discussing, things are unfolding
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- Very quickly right now in the middle east.
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- Joining us now to get us up to speed on
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- What's happening in the world's most strategic region
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- And why it impacts you is a middle east all star panel.
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- Foreign policy expert lisa duff raftery is editor in chief
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- Of the foreign desk and host of the foreign desk podcast.
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- Also joining us is emily schrader,
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- Journalist for ihl tv news, and she also writes
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- For wynette news and is a human rights activist.
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- Ladies, welcome.
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- Great to see you.
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- Emily, i want to start with you.
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- What is the view from israel?
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- You're in the u.s.
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- Right now, but you're based in israel usually.
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- What's the view from israel of the trump administration
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- And the meeting today
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- Between trump and bibi after the last four years?
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- Is there a sigh of relief among israelis that we've got
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- A new pro-israel administration in d.c.?
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- Well, absolutely.
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- I mean,
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- I think the israelis are over the moon about what's happening
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- In terms of the trump administration.
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- We already saw in the first few days,
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- Not only did prime minister netanyahu
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- Receive an invitation to come to the white house,
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- Which is something we didn't see from the biden administration,
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- But we also saw the assurance
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- That trump would be releasing the weapons
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- That israel needs to really get the job done
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- When it comes to gaza, lebanon or even the islamic republic
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- Of iran.
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- So we do see a major change in the approach
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- To israel, the state of israel, and we hope that that continues
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- In the coming days.
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- Of course,
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- We also have the maximum pressure
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- 2.0 campaign of the trump administration coming forth.
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- I know
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- That's something that the prime minister
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- And the president,
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- Of course, are discussing during this visit in washington.
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- And i'm sure
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- That there will be more alliances built
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- When it comes to dealing with the strategic threat
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- Of the islamic republic
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- Of iran and their effort to obtain a nuclear weapon.
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- Yeah, emily, well said. we were talking off camera.
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- It took only 15 days for bibi to get a white house visit
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- Under biden, almost 1300 days before bibi
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- Was hosted at the white house. pretty telling.
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- Lisa emily mentioned the iranian regime,
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- Which will be exhibit a in the top item on the agenda,
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- No doubt between trump and netanyahu in their meeting.
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- No one knows iran better than you, lisa.
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- The regime very weakened right now.
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- Do you get that sense from your sources that they're
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- They're scared right now.
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- They see the full brunt of a renewed us israel alliance.
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- Their proxies have been smashed
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- And they're very, very vulnerable right now. it seems.
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- Absolutely.
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- And, you know,
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- When you
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- Look at the last 15 days, it's that posturing coming from
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- The trump administration that has made our friends
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- Take a step forward and our enemies take a step back.
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- So really, the rhetoric
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- That's coming from the white house
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- And really trump as even a candidate,
- 00:11:47.004 --> 00:11:49.973
- The islamic republic knew that they were in trouble
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- And when they start that saber rattling,
- 00:11:52.609 --> 00:11:54.611
- When they start that chest thumping,
- 00:11:54.611 --> 00:11:56.013
- That's when you know they're in trouble.
- 00:11:56.013 --> 00:11:57.648
- And a few other reasons that we saw,
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- For example, the cease fire deal go through.
- 00:11:59.216 --> 00:12:01.285
- A lot of people pointed to the fact that
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- While the islamic republic's proxies are incredibly
- 00:12:03.287 --> 00:12:06.256
- Weakened at this point, we look at hezbollah,
- 00:12:06.256 --> 00:12:07.958
- You look at hamas, you look at the houthis.
- 00:12:07.958 --> 00:12:10.327
- The fall of syria was another big loss
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- For the islamic republic.
- 00:12:12.629 --> 00:12:14.097
- So right now,
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- I think
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- A lot of dominoes are falling and it's to the advantage of
- 00:12:16.366 --> 00:12:19.369
- Those freedom seeking elements within the middle east,
- 00:12:19.369 --> 00:12:22.606
- Israel, the moderate arab states, those
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- Who are signatory to the abraham accords.
- 00:12:24.441 --> 00:12:26.610
- And we know that the trump administration will continue
- 00:12:26.610 --> 00:12:29.847
- Pursuing more signatories to the abraham accords in order
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- To change the entire dynamic of the region after the war.
- 00:12:33.851 --> 00:12:37.654
- And at least you've got great sources on the ground in iran.
- 00:12:37.654 --> 00:12:40.891
- The iranian people. what is their take on this?
- 00:12:40.891 --> 00:12:43.260
- A large segments of the iranian population
- 00:12:43.260 --> 00:12:45.295
- Oppose this evil regime, obviously.
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- Do you sense
- 00:12:47.798 --> 00:12:48.699
- Maybe a groundswell that could develop
- 00:12:48.699 --> 00:12:50.234
- Among the iranian people, that we could see the end
- 00:12:50.234 --> 00:12:52.369
- Finally of this regime after 46 years of terror and mayhem?
- 00:12:52.369 --> 00:12:56.840
- Absolutely.
- 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:58.008
- Look, i've been doing this for such a long time that when
- 00:12:58.008 --> 00:13:00.177
- When when sanctions were first introduced
- 00:13:00.177 --> 00:13:02.279
- Against the islamic republic, a lot of iranians would say, oh,
- 00:13:02.279 --> 00:13:05.282
- My gosh, this is against us, against the main street
- 00:13:05.282 --> 00:13:08.952
- Economy, and this is, you know, it's unfair.
- 00:13:08.952 --> 00:13:11.922
- Now, iranians are actually asking for sanctions.
- 00:13:11.922 --> 00:13:14.291
- And i know that sounds crazy, but they know
- 00:13:14.291 --> 00:13:16.426
- That the trump administration can be counted on
- 00:13:16.426 --> 00:13:18.629
- For very targeted sanctions that will weaken the regime,
- 00:13:18.629 --> 00:13:21.732
- Not allow them to sell weapons, not allow them to sell oil,
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- Not allow them to rake in money to put into terrorism.
- 00:13:24.301 --> 00:13:27.371
- And for that reason, we're seeing this optimism
- 00:13:27.371 --> 00:13:30.908
- Among the iranian people, even graffiti on the walls of of
- 00:13:30.908 --> 00:13:35.979
- The big cities supporting trump
- 00:13:35.979 --> 00:13:38.615
- And really encouraging him to unleash
- 00:13:38.615 --> 00:13:42.853
- His maximum pressure campaign and to put pressure
- 00:13:42.853 --> 00:13:45.389
- And to maybe ultimately give the iranian people a chance
- 00:13:45.389 --> 00:13:48.492
- At regime change.
- 00:13:48.492 --> 00:13:49.493
- Yeah, that is a key point.
- 00:13:49.493 --> 00:13:50.460
- Lisa and emily, you know that very well.
- 00:13:50.460 --> 00:13:52.029
- You've also advocated for the iranian people very strongly.
- 00:13:52.029 --> 00:13:55.465
- The regime and the iranian people
- 00:13:55.465 --> 00:13:57.067
- Are a very different story, obviously.
- 00:13:57.067 --> 00:13:59.136
- But when we talk about the regime,
- 00:13:59.136 --> 00:14:00.737
- We got to talk about the iran nuclear program.
- 00:14:00.737 --> 00:14:03.273
- Emily seems like a golden opportunity
- 00:14:03.273 --> 00:14:05.876
- Right now with iran exposed, as you both just laid out,
- 00:14:05.876 --> 00:14:09.813
- To take care of that nuclear program one way or another,
- 00:14:09.813 --> 00:14:14.017
- And that perhaps could include military action.
- 00:14:14.017 --> 00:14:16.753
- Could we see that in the offing now that president trump,
- 00:14:16.753 --> 00:14:18.922
- Of course, is back in office as well?
- 00:14:18.922 --> 00:14:20.624
- In the very least, you would think he'd give israel
- 00:14:20.624 --> 00:14:22.793
- The green light to do what it needs to do.
- 00:14:22.793 --> 00:14:25.529
- I mean, i think that's a distinct possibility.
- 00:14:25.529 --> 00:14:27.564
- And i'm certain
- 00:14:27.564 --> 00:14:28.365
- That it's
- 00:14:28.365 --> 00:14:29.232
- Something that will be discussed between
- 00:14:29.232 --> 00:14:30.734
- The two leaders in the coming days, weeks, even months.
- 00:14:30.734 --> 00:14:34.471
- And it may be something that israel does indeed need to do.
- 00:14:34.471 --> 00:14:37.341
- We know already that in response to the trump administration,
- 00:14:37.341 --> 00:14:40.877
- The islamic regime
- 00:14:40.877 --> 00:14:42.479
- Has actually tried to push further
- 00:14:42.479 --> 00:14:44.314
- With their nuclear program, a sort of a last minute
- 00:14:44.314 --> 00:14:46.516
- Effort, possibly even to obtain a nuclear weapon
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- Before a strike.
- 00:14:49.553 --> 00:14:50.687
- Not exactly what they wanted in the initial stages,
- 00:14:50.687 --> 00:14:53.290
- But a different type of nuclear weapon.
- 00:14:53.290 --> 00:14:55.192
- And that is the information that we have coming in
- 00:14:55.192 --> 00:14:57.361
- In the most recent, most recent reports.
- 00:14:57.361 --> 00:15:00.230
- So this may be an action
- 00:15:00.230 --> 00:15:01.598
- That the state of israel does have to take.
- 00:15:01.598 --> 00:15:03.600
- I'm hopeful
- 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:04.634
- That the united states will back israel in that,
- 00:15:04.634 --> 00:15:06.436
- And i am hopeful that they will do even more
- 00:15:06.436 --> 00:15:09.072
- And that we'll have the proper weapons and the proper resources
- 00:15:09.072 --> 00:15:12.342
- In order to take care of that issue once and for all.
- 00:15:12.342 --> 00:15:15.078
- There's one more thing about the sanctions
- 00:15:15.078 --> 00:15:16.646
- That i think is really important to note, though,
- 00:15:16.646 --> 00:15:18.515
- And that is that under the biden administration in 2022, 2023
- 00:15:18.515 --> 00:15:22.719
- And 2024, we saw over $50 billion of oil exports.
- 00:15:22.719 --> 00:15:26.656
- Now, trump's goal with the maximum pressure
- 00:15:26.656 --> 00:15:28.859
- Campaign is to bring that back down to zero,
- 00:15:28.859 --> 00:15:30.827
- Which is what he almost was able
- 00:15:30.827 --> 00:15:32.095
- To accomplish in his first term.
- 00:15:32.095 --> 00:15:34.097
- And this is really, really important,
- 00:15:34.097 --> 00:15:35.699
- Because what lisa mentioned about how the people
- 00:15:35.699 --> 00:15:37.934
- Of iran suffer under sanctions, it's true
- 00:15:37.934 --> 00:15:39.636
- There are negative side effects for the individual person
- 00:15:39.636 --> 00:15:43.874
- In iran, but at the end of the day, it's worth it.
- 00:15:43.874 --> 00:15:46.610
- It's much better than having an all out war.
- 00:15:46.610 --> 00:15:48.912
- And that's what we want to try to avoid.
- 00:15:48.912 --> 00:15:51.448
- We want regime change
- 00:15:51.448 --> 00:15:52.616
- Without having to have a massive war, ideally speaking.
- 00:15:52.616 --> 00:15:55.952
- And so if we are able to bring those oil exports down to zero,
- 00:15:55.952 --> 00:15:59.790
- You also see a correlation.
- 00:15:59.790 --> 00:16:01.758
- In the past, under the previous administration,
- 00:16:01.758 --> 00:16:04.661
- Under the previous trump administration
- 00:16:04.661 --> 00:16:06.063
- Excuse me, of a decrease in other exports to terrorism.
- 00:16:06.063 --> 00:16:10.033
- So funding for terror proxies
- 00:16:10.033 --> 00:16:11.334
- Throughout the middle east and a decrease in executions.
- 00:16:11.334 --> 00:16:14.538
- So the maximum pressure campaign is a critical campaign
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- Not only for stopping the
- 00:16:19.376 --> 00:16:22.279
- The funding of terror proxies throughout the middle east,
- 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:24.781
- Stopping the nuclear program to some extent,
- 00:16:24.781 --> 00:16:27.517
- But also internally inside of iran.
- 00:16:27.517 --> 00:16:29.953
- And when it comes to human rights abuses,
- 00:16:29.953 --> 00:16:31.588
- Which there are gross human rights abuses,
- 00:16:31.588 --> 00:16:33.590
- We saw a massive decrease
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- When it comes to execution and when you had a tougher
- 00:16:34.991 --> 00:16:38.228
- Policy on iran.
- 00:16:38.228 --> 00:16:39.429
- And that's what we need to see if we have a hope
- 00:16:39.429 --> 00:16:42.199
- For regime change in the future.
- 00:16:42.199 --> 00:16:43.667
- Emily, lisa, great points all around
- 00:16:43.667 --> 00:16:45.268
- And we are just getting started.
- 00:16:45.268 --> 00:16:46.536
- Emily schrader, lisa naftali,
- 00:16:46.536 --> 00:16:47.838
- We'll be back with us right after the break.
- 00:16:47.838 --> 00:16:49.539
- What about this
- 00:16:49.539 --> 00:16:50.740
- Gaza relocation plan that president trump has proposed?
- 00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:54.211
- We'll break it down with our middle east
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- All star panel after the break. stick around.
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- All star panel after the break. stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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- We're talking to top middle east
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- Experts emily schrader and lisa duff. tara.
- 00:17:07.521 --> 00:17:10.224
- Lisa, we became accustomed, i think, during president
- 00:17:10.224 --> 00:17:13.193
- Trump's first term to outside the box thinking.
- 00:17:13.193 --> 00:17:16.263
- You mentioned before the break,
- 00:17:16.263 --> 00:17:17.498
- The abraham accords of course, now president trump
- 00:17:17.498 --> 00:17:20.334
- Has been proposing a possible relocation plan,
- 00:17:20.334 --> 00:17:23.370
- I guess we would call it, which would see
- 00:17:23.370 --> 00:17:24.972
- Palestinians leave gaza and go to perhaps egypt.
- 00:17:24.972 --> 00:17:29.409
- Jordan, what do you think of this plan?
- 00:17:29.409 --> 00:17:31.411
- Is this actually a possibility? it's a huge possibility.
- 00:17:31.411 --> 00:17:34.014
- And i don't i don't think it's an awful idea.
- 00:17:34.014 --> 00:17:37.851
- Look, like you said, it's an outside the box idea.
- 00:17:37.851 --> 00:17:40.387
- It's because it's going to take 10 to 15 years,
- 00:17:40.387 --> 00:17:42.256
- Which is the estimate right now to rebuild gaza.
- 00:17:42.256 --> 00:17:45.392
- If if this is you know, if it's a dead end, that
- 00:17:45.392 --> 00:17:48.562
- The global community
- 00:17:48.562 --> 00:17:49.596
- Keeps hitting in terms of finding some sort of
- 00:17:49.596 --> 00:17:53.867
- Stability between the palestinians
- 00:17:53.867 --> 00:17:55.502
- And the israelis,
- 00:17:55.502 --> 00:17:56.570
- If they cannot find proper leadership
- 00:17:56.570 --> 00:17:58.639
- With the palestinian people, this is a great deal.
- 00:17:58.639 --> 00:18:00.908
- Look, so is the prosperity deal
- 00:18:00.908 --> 00:18:02.576
- That was on the table before the abraham accords.
- 00:18:02.576 --> 00:18:04.645
- I was offered to the palestinian people.
- 00:18:04.645 --> 00:18:06.380
- So there's no they never give up
- 00:18:06.380 --> 00:18:08.081
- An opportunity to miss an opportunity here.
- 00:18:08.081 --> 00:18:09.983
- I think president trump is definitely on to something.
- 00:18:09.983 --> 00:18:12.920
- Yeah, no doubt.
- 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:14.121
- Emily, speaking of hamas and hamas support here in america,
- 00:18:14.121 --> 00:18:18.992
- I know that you've you and lisa both called this out.
- 00:18:18.992 --> 00:18:22.296
- President trump
- 00:18:22.296 --> 00:18:23.463
- Took some executive actions recently to to crack down
- 00:18:23.463 --> 00:18:26.266
- On antisemitism, in particular on college campuses.
- 00:18:26.266 --> 00:18:30.637
- That seems like it could be a new day as well,
- 00:18:30.637 --> 00:18:32.973
- Because that hamas support network here in the u.s.
- 00:18:32.973 --> 00:18:35.676
- Is very dangerous.
- 00:18:35.676 --> 00:18:36.843
- Absolutely.
- 00:18:36.843 --> 00:18:37.511
- I mean, i'm
- 00:18:37.511 --> 00:18:38.612
- Thrilled with president trump's new executive orders
- 00:18:38.612 --> 00:18:40.847
- When it comes to combating anti-semitism.
- 00:18:40.847 --> 00:18:42.950
- But i think that that alone isn't going to stop the problem.
- 00:18:42.950 --> 00:18:46.520
- I think we need to examine
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- The sources of this foreign funding
- 00:18:47.854 --> 00:18:49.756
- That's going into american universities
- 00:18:49.756 --> 00:18:51.725
- To the tune of billions of dollars from regimes like qatar.
- 00:18:51.725 --> 00:18:55.562
- So this is a huge problem when it comes to teaching
- 00:18:55.562 --> 00:18:58.832
- Anti-semitism and elevating those who promote
- 00:18:58.832 --> 00:19:01.768
- Anti-semitism and pro terror rhetoric on campus.
- 00:19:01.768 --> 00:19:04.838
- And that's why you see a complete failure
- 00:19:04.838 --> 00:19:07.307
- Of administrations in upenn or columbia
- 00:19:07.307 --> 00:19:10.377
- Or any of these top american universities.
- 00:19:10.377 --> 00:19:13.046
- The administrators themselves
- 00:19:13.046 --> 00:19:14.681
- Are seemingly incapable of acknowledging reality.
- 00:19:14.681 --> 00:19:18.185
- So i'm hopeful that this is just the first of many steps that
- 00:19:18.185 --> 00:19:21.421
- President trump will implement in order to crack down on this.
- 00:19:21.421 --> 00:19:24.825
- And one thing i wanted to add about the gaza relocation
- 00:19:24.825 --> 00:19:27.661
- Is that the arab states
- 00:19:27.661 --> 00:19:28.862
- Have already rejected this proposal,
- 00:19:28.862 --> 00:19:30.497
- Of course, just as they rejected every peace offer
- 00:19:30.497 --> 00:19:33.433
- Or every solution for palestinians
- 00:19:33.433 --> 00:19:35.202
- Throughout all of palestinian history.
- 00:19:35.202 --> 00:19:37.504
- But the reason for this that's important to note
- 00:19:37.504 --> 00:19:39.873
- Is that the arab states don't care about palestinians.
- 00:19:39.873 --> 00:19:43.143
- They don't care about a palestinian state.
- 00:19:43.143 --> 00:19:44.978
- They don't care about what's better for the people of gaza
- 00:19:44.978 --> 00:19:47.914
- To be out of a danger zone temporarily.
- 00:19:47.914 --> 00:19:50.284
- At the very least, in order to rebuild gaza.
- 00:19:50.284 --> 00:19:53.153
- And they don't want the palestinians in their countries,
- 00:19:53.153 --> 00:19:55.555
- Because everywhere the palestinians have gone,
- 00:19:55.555 --> 00:19:57.824
- They have reached absolute havoc.
- 00:19:57.824 --> 00:19:59.993
- They caused a civil war in lebanon.
- 00:19:59.993 --> 00:20:01.828
- They sided with saddam hussein when it came to kuwait
- 00:20:01.828 --> 00:20:04.264
- And ended up getting kicked out of kuwait.
- 00:20:04.264 --> 00:20:06.099
- They've caused tremendous instability in jordan.
- 00:20:06.099 --> 00:20:08.435
- They caused terrorism in egypt.
- 00:20:08.435 --> 00:20:10.203
- These countries know what's going on in a radicalized pro
- 00:20:10.203 --> 00:20:14.241
- Terror society, and they don't want them in their countries.
- 00:20:14.241 --> 00:20:17.978
- And there's a reason for that.
- 00:20:17.978 --> 00:20:19.313
- Emily, thank you for sharing the unvarnished truth.
- 00:20:19.313 --> 00:20:21.982
- You are exactly right.
- 00:20:21.982 --> 00:20:23.283
- And speaking of which, lisa,
- 00:20:23.283 --> 00:20:24.685
- We got about a minute left, but we talk about the campus
- 00:20:24.685 --> 00:20:27.354
- Radicalism, which emily pointed out as well.
- 00:20:27.354 --> 00:20:29.656
- The iranian regime had a hand
- 00:20:29.656 --> 00:20:31.358
- In that right, in stirring things up.
- 00:20:31.358 --> 00:20:33.460
- Anti-israel, anti-semitic violence and rhetoric
- 00:20:33.460 --> 00:20:36.563
- On american college campuses. right.
- 00:20:36.563 --> 00:20:38.965
- The same regime that does not allow
- 00:20:38.965 --> 00:20:42.369
- Their own college students to say anything on campus
- 00:20:42.369 --> 00:20:45.605
- Or else they they face the threat of execution.
- 00:20:45.605 --> 00:20:48.842
- But now they have inserted themselves so deeply
- 00:20:48.842 --> 00:20:52.045
- Within our institutions.
- 00:20:52.045 --> 00:20:53.647
- We found out this last round of encampments
- 00:20:53.647 --> 00:20:56.850
- On college campuses that the iran regime was absolutely
- 00:20:56.850 --> 00:21:00.687
- Integral in organizing and providing money.
- 00:21:00.687 --> 00:21:03.590
- If you saw all the tents were the same,
- 00:21:03.590 --> 00:21:05.192
- All the supplies were the same.
- 00:21:05.192 --> 00:21:07.060
- This was very well orchestrated and very well funded.
- 00:21:07.060 --> 00:21:10.697
- And we know that the iran regime had
- 00:21:10.697 --> 00:21:12.366
- Has had a hand in the protests that have gone on here
- 00:21:12.366 --> 00:21:16.169
- On american soil in our various cities. so
- 00:21:16.169 --> 00:21:19.706
- There is such a deep web,
- 00:21:19.706 --> 00:21:23.343
- This influence campaign that iran's regime and qatar
- 00:21:23.343 --> 00:21:26.012
- And other
- 00:21:26.012 --> 00:21:26.913
- The chinese and the russians and others
- 00:21:26.913 --> 00:21:28.415
- Have unleashed on the united states.
- 00:21:28.415 --> 00:21:30.617
- And i don't know if four years
- 00:21:30.617 --> 00:21:31.718
- Of a trump presidency, although you've
- 00:21:31.718 --> 00:21:33.420
- Gotten a lot done in 15 days,
- 00:21:33.420 --> 00:21:35.655
- I don't know if that's
- 00:21:35.655 --> 00:21:36.890
- Going to be enough to root out the depths of this soft power
- 00:21:36.890 --> 00:21:40.460
- Campaign that has been unleashed on american soil.
- 00:21:40.460 --> 00:21:43.563
- So i do think we have a lot to fight.
- 00:21:43.563 --> 00:21:45.565
- And i do i do appreciate the trump administration's
- 00:21:45.565 --> 00:21:49.803
- Acknowledgment that the biggest enemy here
- 00:21:49.803 --> 00:21:53.807
- Across the board,
- 00:21:53.807 --> 00:21:54.775
- Whether we're talking about the chinese
- 00:21:54.775 --> 00:21:56.443
- Or the iran regime or hamas, is an ideology
- 00:21:56.443 --> 00:22:00.414
- That has permeated and is here in the united states.
- 00:22:00.414 --> 00:22:03.817
- There is no way to fight this if we don't start here at home.
- 00:22:03.817 --> 00:22:07.888
- Amen. lisa, great point, emily, as well.
- 00:22:07.888 --> 00:22:10.557
- Thank god we have both of you keeping an eye on it for us.
- 00:22:10.557 --> 00:22:13.527
- Lisa, that story.
- 00:22:13.527 --> 00:22:14.628
- Emily schrader folks, be sure to follow them on x
- 00:22:14.628 --> 00:22:16.730
- Across social media. ladies, great job.
- 00:22:16.730 --> 00:22:18.598
- God bless.
- 00:22:18.598 --> 00:22:19.332
- We'll see you again soon.
- 00:22:19.332 --> 00:22:20.333
- And coming up, my final thoughts on the situation
- 00:22:20.333 --> 00:22:23.737
- That is unfolding right now in the middle east.
- 00:22:23.737 --> 00:22:26.306
- Why does it matter to you?
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- I'll break it down after the break. stick around.
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- I'll break it down after the break. stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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- As we wrap up here,
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- We can talk all day long about why
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- What happens in the middle east, in israel matters.
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- But at the end of the day, for the follower of jesus,
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- It really comes down to this isaiah chapter
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- 40, verse five, the glory of the lord will be revealed
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- And all people will see it together for the mouth of the
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- Lord has spoken.
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- They're not going to see the glory of the lord
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- In washington, d.c., new york, london or beijing.
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- They're going to see it in jerusalem,
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- The capital of israel.
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- Needless to say,
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- Israel looms large in god's prophetic time clock.
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- It matters to us now more than ever.
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- Hey, tomorrow, jack posobiec is with us
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- With a great breakdown of all the things we're seeing
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- In the trump administration right now.
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- You won't want to miss that.
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- Until then, god bless you.
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- We'll see you soon.
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