Stakelbeck Tonight

Erick Stakelbeck: May 1, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

May 1, 2025 | S25:E501

From wars and rumors of war abroad, to the rise of anti-Christian, "woke" ideology here at home, it’s clear that Americans are living in perilous and unprecedented times. Some would even say that we’re witnessing biblical prophecy unfold in real time. Stakelbeck Tonight will make sense of these stunning developments through a bold and biblical lens.

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: May 1, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight | May 1, 2025

Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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I'm erick stakelbeck, and if you're like me, you know
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When someone is just mailing it in, when they're paying
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Half hearted lip service to a certain subject
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Just to check the box and say they did it,
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And then they quickly forget and move on.
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Well, i am very happy to report that when it comes to prayer
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And to lifting up the name of the lord.
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This white house is all in.
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It is real.
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It is sincere,
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And i believe it's going
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To have an incredible impact on our nation.
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Today marked
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The national day of prayer, and president trump and his team
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Went all out to glorify god and acknowledge the role
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That faith and people of faith play in our nation.
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The president
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Held a rose garden ceremony, complete with worship,
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And he declared that america will always be one nation
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Under god. take a look.
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We're bringing back religion in our country,
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And we're bringing it back quickly and strongly.
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Because for america to be a great nation,
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We must always be one nation under god.
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A phrase that they would like to get rid of the radical left.
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But, ben,
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I don't think we're going to let them get rid of that right?
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Again, this is not just lip service in just a few months.
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President trump has put those words
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You just heard into action today in the rose garden.
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He laid out some of what he's already done
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To move the needle away from the anti-christian and
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Anti-semitic madness
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That had taken root over the past four years.
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Here's more.
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I pardon americans have faith
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Thrown in jail for praying and peaceful protest.
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I signed an executive order to combat anti-semitism
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And set up a doj task force to eradicate the
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Anti-christian bias.
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And in just a few moments,
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I'll also be signing an executive order
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Creating a presidential commission
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On religious liberty, which is really why we're here.
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More than any other reason.
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Folks, on this national day of prayer, i'm
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Thanking god for this president and this administration.
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Just think of where
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We were a year ago when transgenderism and lgbtq
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Were celebrated at the white house
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And bible believing christians were shunned.
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It's a new day.
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Something is stirring in our nation.
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God is moving and revival is at the door.
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When president trump miraculously survived
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An assassination attempt in butler, pennsylvania,
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Something shifted both in our nation and in him.
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And now we've got an opportunity to do great things once again.
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But it won't happen without prayer.
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So on this national day of prayer,
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Let's pray for our leaders.
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Pray for our military, our first responders.
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Pray for our children and grandchildren
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And that the younger generations carry on our country's
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Christian heritage.
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And remember also to pray for the peace of jerusalem.
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On wednesday, massive wildfires raged throughout
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The day in the hills surrounding god's city.
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The fires have finally been brought under control, but
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It's pretty clear that arson played a major factor.
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Folks have to wonder if hamas and other palestinian terrorist
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Have such a sacred, ancient attachment
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To the land of israel, as they claim the.
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Why are they always so eager to burn it down?
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Maybe because it was never theirs to begin with
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And they know it.
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Coming up, we're joined by the leaders
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Of the white house faith office to get the inside story
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On today's national day of prayer.
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And it all starts now.
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A powerful day in our nation's capital.
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As the white house
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Hosted a national day of prayer ceremony in the rose garden,
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Bringing together faith leaders from across america
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To lift up our country in prayer.
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Joining us now to discuss this historic moment
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And the ongoing work of the white house
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Faith office, our senior adviser
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For the white house faith office, pastor paula white cane
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And faith director for the faith office, jenny corn,
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Pastor paula jenny, always great to see you.
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Pastor paula, in watching the proceedings
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Today in the rose garden, i was struck
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Not only by the praise and worship at the white house,
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But this all kind of flowed
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From the leader of the free world,
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President trump, who stood at the podium and said, america
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Will always remain one nation under god.
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How important is it for this to start from the top,
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That profession of faith from president trump?
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It's vitally important.
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If it doesn't come from the head,
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It's not going to flow down very well.
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And i can tell you whether it's the white house faith office,
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Whether it's the anti-christian bias task force, anti-semitism
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Task force, both in doj or today's religious commission,
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And so many other initiatives
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That have been started around faith,
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Where we're protecting faith, defending faith, we're looking
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At the wrong and injustices against people of faith,
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And we're preserving faith.
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That is all president trump.
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And as you saw today,
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What many people don't know, it was supposed to be about a 40
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Minute program.
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The reason it was several hours is because of president trump.
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And he's got a packed schedule today.
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But this is the importance to him.
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There are others. as we know. this is a,
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Something that is done by every president
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As far as a proclamation,
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But no one brings it to the white house.
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President trump is the only one
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That brings people of all faiths
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To the actual rose garden to have a service like this.
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It was absolutely beautiful and anointed.
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Yeah. pastor paul, it's a new day.
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Something is stirring.
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And jenny, look just past the 100 day
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Mark for president trump's second term in office.
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And in that time, just 100 days over 1000
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Faith leaders at the white house in just a few months.
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Jenny, tell us more about that and how faith is playing
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A central role in this administration.
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Right.
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Well, just like president trump, pastor paul
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And i don't sleep much.
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We are on trump time,
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And we want to make sure that we make the most
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Out of these next four years.
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And so that what you said is correct.
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Just think about that. a thousand is actually is over.
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It's about 1500 faith leaders
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Now of every race, of every denomination,
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From across the country, not just for show,
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But to sit at a table and to talk about policy.
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Just think about how precious president trump's time is.
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And he stood there while everybody
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And they went a little long.
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All the prayers went,
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You know, we're supposed to be two minutes there. five minutes.
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And he stood up there, reverend,
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And then brought everybody back up.
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Well, we all sang amazing grace.
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I stood there, almost a tear in my eye, going,
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Yeah, i can't believe i'm at this white house.
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Because here's the thing.
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When leaders and people in america prayed together,
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We can do other things together.
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Erick, what people didn't even see
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After that was what happened after the after everything.
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So he looked at everyone on the stage and said,
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Now we know his schedule.
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It is a crazy schedule today.
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And he looked at everyone and said,
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Come in the oval office with me and spend another 35
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40 minutes with everyone talking to them, praying,
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Giving them one of his, medals is, the pens.
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Everything.
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Just so not only gracious, he loves to be around
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People of faith.
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Jenny. last question.
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About 45 seconds left.
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President trump closed out the ceremony today in the rose
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Rose garden announcing executive action on religious freedom.
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Religious liberty. real quick.
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Tell us more about that. the importance of that.
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Absolutely.
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And this is on the heels of creating the newly
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Created historic white house faith office, creating the,
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Eradicating anti-christian bias, combating
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Anti-semitism, and also any other anti-religious bias.
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Now we're adding a commission on religious liberty,
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Where you have some of the best scholars, some of the best
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Theologians to come together to define religion,
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To define religious liberty,
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And to make sure that people in america
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Truly have their religious freedom.
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Because, as we know around the globe,
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People are looking to us as that beacon.
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If we have religious freedom
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Here, others can have it across the world.
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Yeah, jenny.
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Well said.
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God says those who honor me, i will honor.
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And this white house is honoring god.
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It's amazing to see.
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And, jenny, pastor paul, you are at the forefront of that.
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Keep up your great work at the white house faith office.
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We'll see you again soon.
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And coming up after the break
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Is jenny and pastor paul and mentioned
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America has a long history of faith and prayer,
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And historian tim barton is with us to break that down.
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Why it's still so relevant today. that's next.
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Stick around.
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Stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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Joining us now is historian
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And president of wallbuilders, tim barton.
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Tim, i'm getting right into it
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Because we've got a lot of ground to cover, a lot going on.
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Not only current events, but, tim,
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You're so great at wallbuilders and everything you do
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Because you bring the historical perspective
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And the perspective of our founding fathers,
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The number one, the judicial madness.
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I'd say, runaway rogue leftist judges
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Trying to block president trump's agenda at every turn.
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Tim, is there any historical precedent for this?
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Is this constitutional? how does this all work?
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Yeah, certainly there's not precedent to this extent.
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There's certainly are examples.
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When you had presidents doing things
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That were very questionable, unconstitutional.
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You can go back to andrew jackson,
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Where he was doing indian removal.
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He was violate federal treaties and up to andrew jackson.
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Largely.
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There was a respect for native americans.
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Andrew jackson becomes president and says, nope,
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We're changing this whole system up.
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And there were several cases that when the u.s.
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Supreme court actually
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John quincy adams, former president,
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Argued one of those cases, supreme court,
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The supreme court said he's totally wrong.
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Andrew jackson
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Cannot violate a federal treaty at his whim to do this.
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And andrew jackson was kind of credited with saying, well,
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The courts made their decision. let him enforce it.
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But the point is,
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There were times when the court and president disagreed,
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But that was the supreme court, not a federal district judge.
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Right.
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Not a lower level judge, and especially not
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When the judge was not in the jurisdiction
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Of where the issue happened.
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And so what's happened is we've seen a lot of leftists,
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A lot of these attorneys,
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Whoever it might be, these politicians,
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They do what's called forum shopping.
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They go shopping for the judge
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They think will give them the answer.
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And they've been able to find judges,
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Whether it be in like washington, d.c.
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Or some other very the liberal territory.
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And a judge has given a ruling
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That is clearly unconstitutional.
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One of the things
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The supreme court, just in the matter
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Of the last week or two,
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They actually came out and they said that
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These lower judges were wrong for ruling on these decisions
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When they didn't
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Have standing in the case, because these are not issues
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Happening in their district, etc..
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So we've already seen pushback from the us
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Supreme court,
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But historically, we've never seen lower court judges do this.
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And actually,
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Historically, there were times when even lower
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Court judges would face the threat of impeachment.
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Was president trump mentioned that word?
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It scared some people. sure.
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But but literally, when you had a lower court judge
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That the constitution says a judge serves
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For the duration of good behavior.
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If you are doing things unconstitutional,
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That's not good behavior.
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And therefore that could
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Cross that line
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Into what could be impeachable category and territory.
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The problem now is that the congress doesn't recognize
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Arguably what the article one says.
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Article two. article three, article one deals with congress.
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Article three deals with the judiciary.
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And the congress actually has the power
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To determine and dictate what judges can hear,
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What issues they can have, and what they can't.
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The congress also has the power to dismiss
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Or close down any lower court judge.
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The only thing required by the constitution is to keep the u.s.
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Supreme court, but they also could keep
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The supreme court with one justice.
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Chief justice roberts could be the only judge.
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They could remove every other judge.
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They also could then reissue that court
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An hour later, and president trump could fill that vacancy
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With a different judge. now, that would be very political.
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But this is where most people don't
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Recognize the power that congress has.
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We see these out-of-control judges,
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And we assume, well,
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There's nothing we can do constitutionally.
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That's not correct.
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There's a lot of things that can happen.
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But right now, the supreme court is pushing back on this issue.
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Yeah. tim. incredible.
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I mean, you're an historian and basically you're saying
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This is unprecedented to a degree, what we're seeing.
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Very much so. wow. yeah. for the history of the nation.
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And there's been several people that document this
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The 100 years.
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If you look from the 1900s up to 1999,
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There was a couple dozen times when a district judge
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Would have an injunction against
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Something in the white house or president.
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President trump has dealt with more,
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And the first three months of this administration
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Than 100 years leading up to these moment.
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And so what's happening now is absolutely unprecedented
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And very, arguably quite unconstitutional.
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Yeah. it's insane. and thank god.
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Look, the supreme court, as you said, ruled last week, tim.
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And hopefully more of that to block these judges
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Again at the local level.
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It's insane what's happening.
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Speaking of which, executive orders first three months
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President trump has had to, it seems, in many cases sign
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Executive orders to combat some of the madness
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That's built up over the past few years.
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Talk about that.
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Some people have asked us here
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In the show, how do executive orders work?
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It's perfectly constitutional, right?
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Talk more about that and why president trump
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Has to wield that pen.
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Yeah.
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So executive orders are simply the boss giving a directive
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To his employees
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And where an executive order would be unconstitutional.
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As if an executive order was directed to the judicial branch,
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To the legislative branch, because. right.
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If you're the owner of a chick fil a
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And you tell your employees, hey, we're always going to say
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My pleasure when someone says thank you,
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Well, you have the authority to do that for your employees,
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But you don't have the authority to go to mcdonald's.
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If you're the owner of chick-fil-a
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And say, hey, i want you to do this.
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If you are the executive,
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You can give it directive to anybody that works for you.
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And that is a constitutional directive
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Because you're giving orders to your employees.
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So that's what an executive order is.
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Where we've seen
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Unconstitutional executive orders
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Is where, for example, a president
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A couple of presidents ago might say,
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We're going to give amnesty to 5 million illegal immigrants.
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Well,
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That's not part of the authority of the executive branch.
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That's clearly unconstitutional.
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So what president trump is doing
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Actually, he's been one of the most
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Constitutionally sound presidents
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When it comes to executive orders.
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The executive orders he's given
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Have been to the executive branch.
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When he said things that were outside
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Of the executive branch, it was encouragement
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Where he said, we would encourage the court to do this.
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It wasn't a directive.
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He was encouraging them to do what would be
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Arguably the right thing.
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And the other thing, when people
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Look at how many he's given and they say he's done too many,
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So many of the executive orders
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He's done has been undoing what the biden administration did.
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And when people are saying he's done too many,
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There was not a lot of complaint
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When joe biden was doing executive orders.
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But now there's complaint
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When president trump
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Is undoing things that were arguably unconstitutional
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In the first place. yeah.
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So the constitutionality really comes back to you.
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Is that effective for the executive branch?
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And if he's undoing a former
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Executive order, also, constitutional?
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Yeah, tim,
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You know, it got bad in the previous
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Four years when president trump had to sign
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Executive order on day one, declaring
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There are only two genders, male and female, right?
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Madness.
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But tim is here to help clear up the madness and educate us.
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This was so informative, tim.
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And more to come with tim barton, president of wall.
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What about the department of education?
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It's out the window. is that a good thing?
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More with tim barton after the break. don't move.
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More with tim barton after the break. don't move.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight we're talking to tim
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Barton president of wallbuilders a great organization folks.
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Check tim out on x across social media doing great
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Great work and enlightening us when it comes to history
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And why it matters today. tim.
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And some precedents. look, i've got some numbers here.
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Nearly 1 in 5 graduating seniors
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In the united states cannot read or write.
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I mean, that's staggering. yeah.
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What is the role of the government?
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What does the constitution say?
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I guess, about what the founders say
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About the role of government in our education.
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President trump's about to get rid
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Of the department for education.
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Is that a good thing overall, less government
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Involvement in schools?
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Yeah,
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This is
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One of the most important
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Fundamental questions
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A lot of americans are confused on
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Because largely been lied to and didn't know it.
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When you read the constitution, the constitution has
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What are called enumerated powers where it lists out.
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Usually article one, section
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Eight is where you find the majority of them.
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That congress can do this, the government can do this.
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And it lists those things.
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The 10th amendment to
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The constitution is in the bill of rights.
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It says whatever is not explicitly given
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To the federal government belongs to the states.
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What we're known is states rights.
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Well, if you read the constitution,
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You can read as many times as you want.
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There's nothing about education
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That's given to the federal government.
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So that's clearly something.
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The founding fathers
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Belong to the state, and it actually makes a lot of sense.
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I don't want somebody in washington,
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Dc who doesn't know my family, doesn't know my kids.
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And this is where the founding fathers
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In their brilliance recognized.
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You would rather
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That the things that impact you the most directly,
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You would, rather than be in local control.
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So there's better accountability
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So that i get to navigate and see these people every day.
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It wasn't until 1979 carter is the one
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Who starts the department of education.
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Really, it kind of rolls out under reagan.
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So the department of education,
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Tim, is only 46 years old, right?
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I think the average american thinks, wow, it's been around
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Since the founding of the nation, right?
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Far from it.
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And part of what's interesting is their idea was that there's a
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There's some problems in education,
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There's struggles in education. we need to solve it.
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And what's the best way
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Let the federal government solve the problems?
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Well, what we can now identify is
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If the idea
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Of the department of education was to solve
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The academic problems in america,
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All you have to do is look at the academic performance
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Of the current educational structure,
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And you'll realize we started here and we've nosedived.
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And the department of education identified
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That 19% of graduating seniors were functionally illiterate.
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They could not read or write well enough to sustain maintain
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A job in the workforce because they just didn't know
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How to function and process that way.
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Now, again, if the department of education,
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If the idea was your goal, is to help our kids do better,
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Well, first of all, it's not constitutional.
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But secondly, you failed the entire time you're here.
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So it makes total sense that president trump,
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From a constitutional standpoint and basic accountability
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Of if this is the role you're supposed to do,
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You should have you failed,
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You shouldn't be allowed to do this anymore,
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But it's returning it back to the states.
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And this is what the founding fathers all along
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Thought it should be.
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And by the way,
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When education was the stage,
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We used to be number one in the world.
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At every measurable academic standard
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We have fallen with, with basic reading,
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We fell to number 65 of the nations of the world.
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I think now we're somewhere in between 28 and 33.
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Depends on the year and when you measure that.
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But the reality is we spend more dollars per student
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Than anywhere else in the world, and we are performing
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Far worse than nations,
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Some that we might consider a third world nation.
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They're doing better academically.
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They have different ideas.
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But this is where president trump,
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I would argue
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Quite brilliantly,
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Says, let's return this back to state control.
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Let's let parents have a say in education.
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And there can be better accountability for this.
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This is a time for believers, followers of jesus,
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To roll up their sleeves and get to work.
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But some people would say, and we heard this
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In the election in november and the run up to the election,
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That the church politics should be completely separate.
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No pastor should ever talk about politics, elections.
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How do you respond to that? yeah. so so two things.
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First of all, i would ask you a question.
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What area of our life does a bible not apply to?
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Because if the word of god is supposed to equip believers
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Right for every component of life and living in god,
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Then the idea that we're going to say,
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Well, the bible applies to this area of my life, but not this.
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That seems very inconsistent. but i would go further.
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When people argue separation of church and state,
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It's really a misunderstanding of a very popular phrase.
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If you go back to the bible, you have as an example moses
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And aaron,
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Where moses
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Is the one
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That god gives the law to, and aaron is the one
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That god puts over the temple.
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The tabernacle became known as the church.
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And you see,
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God had two separate leaders over separate institutions,
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But neither one was secular
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Because both of them were getting
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All their directives from god.
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That was the founding fathers idea.
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We believed in separate institutions,
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Not secular institutions, which is totally different.
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Every single founding father
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That became a governor of a state,
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They issued prayer proclamations for their state,
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Having specific days.
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They would call their state to times of prayer
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And fasting or prayer of thanksgiving,
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Acknowledging god in the whole situation
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Because they didn't believe government should be secular.
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They just thought, well, no, the government
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Shouldn't be telling the church what to do.
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Part of that goes back to the context.
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When they left europe,
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In europe, under the kings, every king chose a religion.
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In england you were anglican.
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In germany you were lutheran.
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In italy,
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You were catholic
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Wherever you were, the king said, here's what we believe.
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And they enforce that belief on everybody under them.
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Well, this is the era when america is having people
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Flee from europe coming to america.
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America is heavily populated by those escaping
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Religious persecution, seeking religious freedom.
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And so we wanted to make sure
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There was a freedom of religion in america.
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But a freedom of religion doesn't
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Mean the freedom from religion.
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And so our government, the idea even of the declaration
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That there's a god who gave us rights,
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Government exists to protect those rights.
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If we secularized government and say,
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You can't have gotten government,
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Well, if there is no god in government,
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There are no god given rights in government.
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And if our rights don't come from god,
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Then the government decides, well,
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Wait a second, there's a pandemic.
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You can't go to church anymore.
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The government should not be able to tell us
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What our rights are and are not the founding fathers.
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In the declaration, independence said that
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To secure these rights,
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Government certitude
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Among man government exist to protect our god given rights,
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Not dictate our god given rights.
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Amen. tim.
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Great stuff folks.
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Check it out and check tim out on x across social media.
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It's him. great job god bless my friend.
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We'll see you again soon.
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Coming up, my final thoughts on this nation,
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The state of the nation. what comes next?
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Stick around.
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Stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck
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Tonight, folks.
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Before we wrap up, quick reminder follow me on
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Instagram, facebook, youtube across social media.
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We are bringing it for such a time as this.
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Speaking of which,
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Second chronicles chapter seven, verse 14 if my people
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Who are called by my name
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Will humble themselves and pray and seek my face
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And turn from their wicked ways, then i will hear from heaven,
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And i will forgive their sin and will heal their land.
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We are seeing this
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Play out in real time right now before our very eyes.
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You saw today at the white house
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For the national day of prayer.
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It is amazing to see.
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And tomorrow an amazing guest, virginia pro don lived
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Under communist tyranny, came to jesus, lived to tell about it.
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Incredible story.
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And our good friend robert stearns is here talking
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All things is really.
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You won't want to miss it until then.
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God, bush. we'll see you soon.
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Erick Stakelbeck: May 1, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

May 1, 2025 | S25:E501

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