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Erick Stakelbeck: May 28, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

May 28, 2025 | S25:E528

From wars and rumors of war abroad, to the rise of anti-Christian, "woke" ideology here at home, it’s clear that Americans are living in perilous and unprecedented times. Some would even say that we’re witnessing biblical prophecy unfold in real time. Stakelbeck Tonight will make sense of these stunning developments through a bold and biblical lens.

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Coming
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Up on a very special edition of stakelbeck tonight.
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What if i told you that there is hard evidence
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Beneath jerusalem for the truth of the bible,
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And that the world is trying to cover it up?
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Darren spielman is here to reveal the jaw dropping
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Archeological discoveries at the city of david
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That are shaking
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The entire foundation of the anti israel narrative.
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Darren has been in the trenches, on the battlefield
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And underground, and now he's revealing
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How the stones are literally crying out in god's land
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And what it means for israel and for every bible believer.
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And it all starts now.
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From serving as a major in the israel defense forces
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And briefing the world's media during war time to helping
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Lead the excavation of one of the most important
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Biblical sites in human history, the city of david.
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Darren spielman has been
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At the forefront of the fight for truth
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With his powerful new book, when the stones speak,
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He's exposing what israel's enemies desperately want to keep
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Buried the undeniable evidence beneath jerusalem,
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Proving the ancient jewish roots of the land of israel.
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Doron, great to see you my friend. congrats on the book.
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We love it.
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We love the city of david, but maybe some of our viewers
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Don't know a lot about this incredible site.
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Tell us why the city of david
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In jerusalem doron is so significant
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Historically, biblically, and geographically.
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First of all, i have to say it is such a pleasure
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To be here with you and to see you on american soil,
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American soil, you know, the city of david.
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It's unbelievable, erick, because for 2000 years
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We didn't know it, but we had actually lost jerusalem.
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We thought we knew where jerusalem was.
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We have an old city.
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We have a beautiful old city wall
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With an incredible four corners
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Christian, jewish, armenian and muslim.
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But 150 years ago, an explorer came
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To find the ark of the covenant.
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His name was charles warren,
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And he's looking in the old city
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And he's digging underneath the ground,
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But he's not finding anything biblical.
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One day he leaves the old city
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Walls and he's walking through a field,
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And he sees a spring of water.
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He goes into that spring,
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And above his head he sees a manmade shaft.
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So he climbs up and he finds an entire underground city
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Outside the walls of the old city, which now we know
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That is the actual city of david from king david's period. wow.
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And it is.
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It's just the gem that waited for us for 2000 years, erick,
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Until, ironically, after 2000 years
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When the jewish people's connection
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To the land of israel is being challenged.
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That's when god says, you want to challenge this.
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I'm about to show you where jerusalem's been hiding.
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And that's the city of david.
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I mean, it is the truth of the bible drone combined
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With irrefutable scientific and archeological evidence fact.
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It's amazing.
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Tell us about some of the incredible finds
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Which you detail in when the stones speak folks.
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Amazon.com.
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Wherever books are sold right now, pick it up.
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But tell us about some of the incredible
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Finds have been uncovered over the past few decades
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In the city of david, and it seems to be intensifying.
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The more the years pass, the more you're uncovering well.
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In when the stones speak, i tell a story
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Which is actually about the title when the stones speak.
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So there's an archeologist.
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Her name is doctor mazar, a blessed memory.
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She was in the city of david, and she found a pillar head
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That was made by the phoenicians.
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And she said, the phoenicians.
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The phoenicians built king david's palace,
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And so she circum emulated where it was.
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And she said, i think king david's
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Palace is underneath your office.
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That's what she said to me.
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You're and two other people in 2004.
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And i remember i'm
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Looking at this kind of cruddy
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Little floor of our office on tapping with my foot down here.
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She says, down here.
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So she cleared off our office and she dug.
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And lo and behold, 15ft beneath our office, she found walls
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An entire foundation of a massive home with pottery
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Inside and an olive pit that was carbon dated in oxford
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Directly to 1000 bc, the time of king david.
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Now what happened?
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Once you find something this amazing from the bible,
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There are people say, can't be true.
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The bible's fantasy. it can't be true.
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You had the muslim leadership which had been denying
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The bible.
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You had, you know, atheist, whoever was after us.
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And so i said to a lot one day, jokingly, i'm like,
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Can you find something that like, proves this?
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Lo and behold, two weeks later, she calls me.
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She found two clay seals that you stamp with your ring.
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And on those seals is the name you.
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How the son of schlemiel and god dalyell, the son of pershore.
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Now, i didn't know who these people were,
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But she said, open up the book of jeremiah.
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And in the book of jeremiah
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The last king of david is zedekiah.
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He sends two messengers to jeremiah
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To get a blessing for war against the babylonians.
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And jeremiah says, you ask me for blessing.
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Now you're at war.
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I told you to be righteous.
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You weren't righteous.
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So they sent two people to kill him.
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The two people were you.
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How many?
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Schlemiel and goodly elbe and puskar.
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The two clay seals we found beneath our office are
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On the page of the bible.
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And it just blasted out of the water the bible.
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And at that point, erick,
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We went from being kind of a neglected archeological site
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To an incredible site.
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And that's what i speak about in the book. yeah.
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And as soon as these shockwaves
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Reach out to the world and people are come to see,
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Unfortunately, there's also a negative side
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Which you've seen in
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Gaza recently, which are people that say, well, gee,
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We've been saying for the last few decades that jews
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And christians really have no connection to jerusalem.
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It's only about islam. yeah.
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And that place is very dangerous.
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And so those people circle the site with the bullseye.
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Yeah.
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And they began the process, like you said,
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To try to stop the excavations in the city.
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Of this is very important point that you dig into in the book,
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No pun intended to rome, but i want to talk more
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About the geopolitics of it in a second.
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But in terms of discoveries, just so people know why,
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This is my favorite place in all of jerusalem.
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That's saying something.
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The city of david, king david's palace, obviously.
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Hezekiah's tunnel,
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Incredible biblical site, the seals, which you mentioned.
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But the pilgrimage road.
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Doron, this is big.
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And the pool of siloam as well.
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But the pilgrimage road in particular.
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Tell us more about that.
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I mean, one of the most significant
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Archeological finds ever, i think.
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Absolutely, in terms of scale and importance,
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I don't think anything has ever
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Been unearthed in israel on this scale.
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It all began with a sewage leak.
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There was a sewage leak
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At the bottom of the city of david,
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And the city sent in tractors to dig,
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And they uncovered a staircase
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That goes down to a massive pool,
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Which we very quickly realized was a ritual bath
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For the early pilgrims
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That were walking their way up to the temple.
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Now the temple's around 500 yards away,
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And once you're pure, if you bump into anyone
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That's not pure, you have to go back in again.
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And so the archeologist said, look,
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If this is really the pool, we're going
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To find the ancient pilgrimage road
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That led the pure into the temple precinct.
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Jews and non-jews, the whole world came.
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We dug, and we found that initial stair
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Heading up that now we have revealed over the course
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Of half a mile,
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A staircase that goes up into the temple precinct
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I even went into underneath the al-aqsa mosque.
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I was allowed in one side pictures of this
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Following the road.
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It goes right to where
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The temple stood at the dome of the rock.
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And this erick, imagine, you know,
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The muslims have something called the hajj.
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Yeah. which is their pilgrimage.
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Biggest one in the world. go to mecca. they go to mecca.
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But in hebrew, 2000 years
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Earlier, in the bible, in the book of exodus,
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God commands the jewish people, the israelites, to do the hog,
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The pilgrimage.
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And it pre-dates this is the original pilgrimage
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In hebrews called the hog,
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And 2000 years later, and islam's called hajj.
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This is the pilgrimage where you left your family.
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You went with your family,
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You left your home, you came to the road
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And you marched up together to the temple.
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It is it is truly magnificent.
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Yeah.
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And you've had a front row seat for this for years, darren.
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It's amazing. but up next we want to talk more.
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Drone touched on it.
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Why would palestinians want to block knowledge
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Of the city of david?
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It seems like a great thing. right?
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So why are so many people scared
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Of the city of david will break it down
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With their own after the break? stick around.
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With their own after the break? stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight,
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We're talking to our good friend doron spielman,
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Author of the great new book, when the stones speak, folks,
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You can pick it up right now, amazon.com.
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Wherever books are sold to run.
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Before the break,
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We were talking
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About the likes of unesco and some of these arms
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Of the un, certain international bodies
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That don't seem very thrilled about the city of david
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And the incredible discoveries that have been made there.
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Why, i should say, why not?
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Why wouldn't they be excited
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About seeing the bible come to life and science,
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Proving the bible, great things,
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The existence of king david, jesus, the list goes on.
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Why are they so opposed to it?
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You know, erick, it's amazing.
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For 2000 years,
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No one had any doubt
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That the ancient israelites come from israel
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And that the jews come from judea.
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Even muhammad, when he wrote the koran,
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He never mentions palestine, but he mentions jews eight times
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And the children of israel 40 times.
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And jerusalem never mentioned the.
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Never mentioned jerusalem, and of course, no palestine,
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Because there was no palestinians
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At the beginning of the palestinian movement.
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And this is only goes back 80 years.
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Their leader, haji al-husseini, who was very close with hitler,
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Partnered with hitler.
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He created a new history.
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He began to claim that jerusalem began with muhammad.
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Wow. now, as crazy as this is,
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They began repeating this again and again to these
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Young palestinians until a lie became truth.
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Erick.
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And what is unbelievable, erick, is unesco, the united nations.
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Even at times, the obama white house came down against us
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And joined the muslim brotherhood and hamas
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To support these lies.
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Because, you know,
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If if you want to believe the palestinian narrative,
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It says that they were here first,
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Then you cannot have a city of david. no.
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When you unearth the city of david
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And you find these seals, you find the pilgrimage road,
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And now millions of people are going to come.
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They feel the bible.
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They know the bible.
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And you take that palestinian narrative and when it hits
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The stones of the city of david, it shatters.
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And so the forces that are against israel
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Saw us as the number one threat.
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They forced our workers.
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We used to have arab workers dig
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In the city of david on the pilgrimage road. yeah.
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One day i drove into the site.
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There was no sounds of picks in the ground,
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And i went and i saw on the
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On the telephone pole, writing in arabic,
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I called over an arab friend of mine said it was this
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He said, these are the arab names
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Of everyone working at your site.
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This is from the muslim brotherhood and the top.
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It was a death threat and 85 of them quit.
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Time goes on.
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Left wing ngos that are anti-israel join into the fray.
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Take us.
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The court claiming homes are falling down
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Because of us when it's the opposite
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And ultimately, erick, it reached its its height
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When a group of jews moved into homes
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In the city of david, bought by arab sellers
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Who made a lot of money and left.
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Yeah, i got a call from ron dermer.
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This is in the book.
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I'll just give you a little hint of it. yeah.
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And ron called me and he said, did you just move into homes?
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I said, sure, jewish people moved into homes.
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He said, i want you to know, tomorrow
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The obama white house is going to condemn you
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For what he said, because jews moved into jerusalem.
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And he said, we told obama, when he condemns you,
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We're going to defend you.
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And ron dermer right now, the strategic affairs minister.
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Yeah.
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And prime minister netanyahu went on to face the nation,
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And they defended us all of this,
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Erick, was a calculated campaign
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So that you and me and your entire audience
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Does not know about the city of david.
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The book
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I wrote, erick, is the story they did not want us to know.
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That's why i wrote the book.
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Yeah, man.
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Tell us more about the book too,
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And what you dig into their own.
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Obviously the archeology, the amazing discoveries,
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The geopolitical ramifications of it.
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But i want to know more about your personal journey.
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You worked at the city of david for 21 years.
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What drew you to the site and why does it mean so much to you?
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And hey,
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A guy from michigan originally you made aliya move to israel.
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That's been quite a journey you've been on
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And you talk about in the book.
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You know, it really is as all things divine.
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Yeah,
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I had a nice job in israel, i made aliya,
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It was hard enough, and i was working in high tech
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Until i was called in the army.
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This is 2002, the church of the nativity in bethlehem.
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The terrorist had blown up busses and gone into that church
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And taken the church.
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Church worshipers hostage inside the church family tivity
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I was called on to the scene.
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I'm at the church of the nativity,
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And a group of students broke through an army barrier
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Trying to bring food to the terrorists in the church.
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Obviously misguided youth.
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Yeah, we arrested them
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And the head of that group and i went to
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The university of michigan together. a restless girl,
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And we're
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Talking and she says to me, we'll never stop
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Until you move back to the 1948 borders of israel.
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I said, what are you talking about?
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That's spells of destruction to the state of israel.
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She said, that's when we're going to move back.
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I left that meeting.
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She was deported. i left the meeting.
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I said, god, this is what they are thinking.
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We have got to defend ourselves.
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And honestly, i said to my wife, what should i do, sir?
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And she said, pray, pray to god.
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A few days later,
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A tour guide called me and said
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He wanted to take me to the city of david.
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I went, i met the leadership and they offered me a job.
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Wow. and i gave up my high tech job.
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People thought i was crazy,
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And i joined a group of small group of crazy people
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Excavating on a hilltop outside of jerusalem.
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We were all alone.
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Even the city of jerusalem wasn't for us,
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And we began to dig beneath the ground.
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And the amazing thing is, when we found those seals,
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When we found the pilgrimage road and hezekiah's tunnel,
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When people began walking through it.
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Normal people, people that are not, don't know
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The bible began to undergo a transformation.
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Erick. wow.
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And that transformation turned each of them
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Into soldiers for jerusalem.
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And the book, the reason
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What we see in the book is the soldiers for jerusalem
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Became an army of people
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That stood
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Against the muslim brotherhood and all those who try to silence
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The excavation.
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And it includes president trump
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And includes former ambassador friedman,
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Mike pompeo, nikki haley.
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All of these people came to our defense.
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And you, erick,
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I have to say that before anyone came to the site,
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You came to the site and walked around you.
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One of those original heroes, as are your is your audience.
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And the book details the battle of good against the evil. yes.
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And today we can see that good, because this is a godly work.
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Good is actually winning this war.
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And that's why we have the book,
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Because we're all under attack,
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Whether it's in israel with hamas,
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Whether it's
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In the united states campuses, the united nations, america
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Is under ideological attack.
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We have to not only understand the knowledge in this book,
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Every person has got to tell the story.
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They didn't want us to know the story.
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We have to tell the story that the stones are telling us.
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Yes, and that is my passion.
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That's why i wrote the book, because at the end of the day,
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Ask if what they're saying is true.
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We have to get up and leave.
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Yeah, but inconveniently for them, it's not true.
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Yeah, our story is true. it's all in the book, folks.
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When the stones speak more with their own after the break.
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Why is this book so important for such a time as this?
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The moment we are living in right now.
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More with the spielman after the break. stick around.
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More with the spielman after the break. stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight,
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We're talking to our good friend
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Doron spielman about a place that has transformed my life.
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I don't say that lightly.
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The city of david, ancient jerusalem is my favorite place
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In god's one
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Only holy city, and doron shares the inside story on all of it
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In his great new book, when the stones speak their own.
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You've been a very busy man over the past year
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And a half, writing a book, of course,
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But also serving as a spokesman for the idf
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During a war on seven fronts since the october 7th massacre.
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Give us an idea of why what's happening now
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Geopolitically around israel the wars,
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The rumors of war in israel's borders
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Factored into the timing of you writing this book.
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Well, erick, actually wrote the book twice.
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I wrote it initially about the city of david,
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But then i put it on hold until october 8th, october 7th.
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I was called in the army
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By the morning of the eighth, 9:30 a.m.
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I was in the southern border between the city of steroids
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And all the kibbutzim.
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I was sent there scoping it out.
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If i was going to be able to bring pressure.
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Bombs were going off.
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There were still fighting going on.
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And i go to the edge of the road and i'm on a road of hundreds
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Of abandoned cars, just me and one other soldier.
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The bodies had been taken out.
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There was blood dripping out of the cars.
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This was 24 hours prior. yes. everything happened.
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Everything.
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And i can hear the gunshots and stuff's going on
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And we're all armed, of course.
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And i open up the doors of one of the cars,
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And i see that the first responders,
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All they had was the driver's id, they put it on the seat,
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I pick it up. it's dripping with blood.
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And the soldier says to me, look, look, look who.
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It's under your feet.
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And i look down and i see white zip ties.
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I said, what is that?
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He said, these people,
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At least one of them, were taken hostage.
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At that moment.
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Erick, my life changed.
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I looked at this road and i understood
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Why the muslims, hamas calls it the al-aqsa flood.
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A flood brings water in and sweeps it out and leaves
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All the wreckage.
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Yeah, it was like a flood.
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And i looked down, seen how.
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And then i realize al-aqsa.
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It's not called the gaza flood, not the southern israel flood.
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For them, it is all about jerusalem's,
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The battle that we are fighting today.
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If anyone thinks it's about southern israel
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Or northern israel, that's not the case.
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The battle today is over jerusalem.
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It is over.
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If they're going to have a caliphate,
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Which is their goal,
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A muslim stronghold encompassing all of israel,
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Or whether we are going to follow
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The path of the bible and western values.
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And i left that experience after 96 days.
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Deeply affected, of course, mentally and emotionally.
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But i sat down after two weeks.
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I said, you know what?
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Now is the time to write this book.
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Yeah, israelis, my own children have to go fight in gaza.
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They have to know what they're fighting for.
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They're not fighting for 1948.
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They're not fighting even for 1967
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Or for the united nations declaration.
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They're fighting for the our biblical brothers
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And sisters who stood in for thousands of years ago.
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So we would be here today.
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And i look at the universe, i look at my university
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Of michigan, where i went to college,
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And all these schools where your children
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Are going to go when americans are going,
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If you like israel, you're called the colonialist.
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Yeah. you're called a settler.
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You're just the harvard report taught you come under abuse.
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And the question is, how can we be settlers
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Or colonialists in our own land for thousands of years?
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And i felt at that moment a calling.
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And i closed the door for three and a half months.
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My light, my wife let me write,
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And i wrote this book, which shows, without a doubt,
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That there are lots of indigenous people in the world.
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Like i'll give them that.
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No one is more indigenous than the jewish people
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Are to the land of israel.
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And that was the calling.
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It's from october 7th till today.
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Everyone who wants to stand up and believes in the bible,
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They're spewing hatred.
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Yeah, and they're gaining momentum.
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We've got to fight back.
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And we have to have knowledge.
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We have to know how to tell the story
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And this is a fight that every person in the world
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That loves the bible, loves america, loves israel.
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Jewish christian
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Needs to stand together and tell this story together.
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If we do that, erick, will defeat
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It, will defeat the evil no doubt.
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And the vitriol we've seen on american college campuses,
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Which you mentioned.
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Doron, how much does that impact you as an israeli?
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After the worst massacre of the jewish people
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Since the holocaust, to see people,
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I mean, literally 24 hours later on the streets protesting
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Against hamas, against israel, and for hamas, as israeli
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Watching this
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Unfold in the west in america, how did that impact israelis?
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I can tell you, i was in uniform fighting in gaza,
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And when i came out, i looked at the news.
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I could not believe what i was saying.
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I felt that it is 1939 again with the holocaust
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And israelis, you know, we have arms.
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We know how to fight. we know how to defeat our enemy.
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We would fight, as prime minister
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Netanyahu said, with our fingernails.
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But to see our brothers and sisters, also jews,
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But also non-jews who are being just pummeled
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By these massive crowds, by the way, these crowds, erick,
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They're saying the exact same thing
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About denial as they as hamas is in gaza.
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They're all educated under the exact same leadership.
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They're of the same core. yeah.
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And the feeling for israelis was,
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We're not sure
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If we need to fight hamas or go save our brethren in america.
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And no one seem to be doing anything.
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And so we really feel in israel
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That americans need to take a stand.
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There is a battle here.
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And that's the overwhelming feeling.
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A lot of israelis have said we were going to go to america.
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They've been flying over here.
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The hostages that have been released.
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Why are they here? yeah.
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To give strength to americans.
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If you stand with israel, now's the time to stand.
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And thank god many have all the arms
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Shipments that came in and the vests
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And all the volunteering and the prayers.
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But we need more.
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Yeah, because this is the hour
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We're going to look back at in a thousand years, erick
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And know who stood with the jewish people who didn't.
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It's an existential struggle
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Not only for israel, but for western civilization.
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Israel is the first line of defense for the west.
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If israel goes down, we all go down.
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Thankfully, we've read the book.
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We know that's not going to happen.
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We've also read this book when the stones speak their own.
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It's great folks. amazon.com.
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Wherever books are sold, when the stones speak
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The city of david, there is no place like it.
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Read the book and also get to the city of david throne.
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This is great!
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Good luck with the book. we appreciate it my friend.
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God bless you.
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And coming up after the break,
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My final thoughts on israel's right to the land.
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That's next. stick around.
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That's next. stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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As wrap up here,
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I really want you to take a second
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And think about the moment we are in right now.
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I think the book of zechariah chapter
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Eight, verses three through five, breaks it down very well.
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This is what the lord says
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I will return to zion and dwell in jerusalem.
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Then jerusalem will be called the faithful city,
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And the mountain of the lord almighty
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Will be called the holy mountain.
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This is what the lord almighty says
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Once again, men and women of ripe
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Old age will sit in the streets of jerusalem,
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Each of them with cain in hand.
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Because of their age,
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The city streets will be filled with boys and girls
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Playing there.
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Folks, that's happening in real time right now,
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Before our very eyes in jerusalem.
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That's why it was such a treat today
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To talk about the city of david, ancient jerusalem,
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With our good friend doron spielman.
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God is moving in his city.
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And remember, the people of
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Israel have returned to their land, to their ancient
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And ancestral capital, never to be uprooted again.
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Speaking of which, tomorrow
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We will be on the ground in israel
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To bring you the history of the crusades in the holy land.
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That's going to be fascinating.
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Until then, god bless you and we'll see you soon.
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Erick Stakelbeck: May 28, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

May 28, 2025 | S25:E528

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