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Erick Stakelbeck: November 13, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

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Join Erick Stakelbeck on Stakelbeck Tonight as he discusses the latest developments in the Middle East with his guests, Mati Shoshani and Yair Pinto from Israel. From the rearming of Iran and Hezbollah to the potential for a new war on the horizon, they delve into the complex geopolitical landscape. With insights on Syria, Gaza, and the rise of anti-Semitism, they uncover the spiritual underpinnings of these global issues. As they share prayer points for peace and wisdom, the show offers a compelling blend of analysis, personal experiences, and faith-driven perspectives on the challenges facing the region.

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: November 13, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight | November 13, 2025

Welcome to stakelbeck tonight,
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I'm erick stakelbeck and we have been following
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Some major stories in the middle east.
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Major developments that affect all of us right here in america.
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Iran and hezbollah are rearming.
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Could a new war be on the horizon?
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The president of syria
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Was at the white house earlier this week.
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He's a former al-qaida commander.
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Can he be trusted?
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Turkey and its radical islamist president are making moves.
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Hamas is refusing to disarm.
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And anti-semitism and anti-israel sentiment
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Are exploding, including right here in america.
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A lot to discuss.
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That's why we are very happy to have our good friends here.
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Pinto and marty. shoshana
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Joining us here in studio all the way from jerusalem.
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They are, of course,
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Co-host of boots on the ground,
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Which you can see right here on tbn every thursday night.
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Gentlemen, welcome.
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Great to have you here in dallas, texas.
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Eric, of course. always great to see you.
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And hey, let's start with a conflict
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That both of you covered extensively for us here
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At tbn throughout the month of june.
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Yeah, the 12 day war.
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Iran severely weakened, of course.
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Israel inflicting major damage.
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The u.s.
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Joins in, destroys iran's nuclear
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Facilities alongside israel.
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But now, gentlemen,
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There are signs and reports that iran is rearming,
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And it's attempting to rearm its proxy, hezbollah, as well.
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Marty, we'll start with you.
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I hate to even ask, but could a new war
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Be on the horizon in the near future between iran and israel?
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Yeah, the short answer is yes.
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And the complicated answer is the fact that we
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I believe in western minds,
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Imagine that the iranians would just give up and state,
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Oh, look, we were wrong in our ways.
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Please accept our apology.
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We're going to we're going to transform.
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They are a dictatorial regime.
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They're radical islamic.
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They have a agenda that is destructive
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To the way of life we have in the west.
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And they haven't changed or changed their tune one bit
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Since this all started.
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They lost a lot.
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They've suffered dearly from the sanctions on their country.
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They've been publicly shamed
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In front of their own people and internationally.
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And what they're
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Doing is trying to once again rebrand themselves.
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And the way they're doing that
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Is they're trying to rekindle the fire of hezbollah,
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Which was weakened but not destroyed
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By pumping in money and weapons.
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And politically influencing what's happening there
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And in every possible front that they can.
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They're trying to once again
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Be the force
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That is strong enough
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To have to be considered in
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Everything that happens in the middle east.
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And we're seeing exactly that.
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You could call it
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The death throes of a very weakened regime,
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A government that suffered financially.
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A government that suffers right now
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From infrastructure problems to the point
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Where they're looking at, and,
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Removing the population from their capital city
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Because of water shortages.
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That's how bad it is in iran.
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And then you look at the way they're operating.
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It's more of the same.
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And they took a serious beating back in june.
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We might have to once again,
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Dish out the same medicine to them.
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Israel and the united states together
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Because they're not done.
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They're weakened, but they're not done.
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Yeah. marty. great points all around the air.
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It seems the iranian regime did not get the memo,
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Needless to say.
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And marty makes a great point
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About that water shortage as well.
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This is a major deal.
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Tehran, a city of 10 million people may be evacuated.
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Let's talk also, though, about iran's
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Crown jewel of its proxy network, hezbollah.
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Both of you
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Spent a lot of time up north as well on that lebanon border.
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Hezbollah rearming with help from iran and israel
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Increasing its activity there.
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It seems like lebanon is kind of a tinderbox right now.
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Yeah, exactly.
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First of all, iran is not slowing down.
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There are threatening israel with 2000 ballistic missiles
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Every day, compared to the 500 that they launched at us in
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12 days of war in the previous round of fighting in june.
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So when the people are suffering,
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They're just investing more money in missile production,
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In their infrastructure of war instead of their own people.
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And more than that,
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They're sending money into lebanon, smuggling it to get to
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Hezbollah operatives to rebuild their command structure,
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Train new militants, get more weapons.
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And every day the idf is identifying
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And striking down hezbollah targets that are trying to cross
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Close to the border with israel, dig up their weapons caches
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That are underground in tunnels that were prepared
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To invade israel in their big plan to conquer
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The northern parts of israel, the galilee.
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They had a plan
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To conquer israel at the same time
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As hamas launched their attacks,
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And to reach all the way to haifa.
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This is half of the country of israel
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That would have been under hezbollah control.
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Marty and i, we were trained in the idf
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As officers of the armored corps units, the tanks unit
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To be under attacks from hezbollah
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Of 3000 mortars and missiles every day.
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So the idf, miraculously, with the help of god,
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Launched the beeper attacks
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And other strikes that terminated
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The hizbollah capabilities to launch these attacks.
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But they're not giving up the rebuilding.
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They are training more people, getting more arms.
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Now it's a bit further from the border with israel,
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Because the idf is at key positions in strategic locations
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In the hezbollah side,
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On the lebanese side of the border between israel.
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And i've been there. marty has been there.
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We know that if the idf will take the foot off the gas
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Of the defensive operations for just a few days,
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He's probably be right back on our borders,
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Looking at our civilian communities on the israeli side,
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And we cannot let that happen.
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Now, guys, as you look around that iranian ring of fire,
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Which of the rings concerns you most?
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Yeah, yeah, i'll start with you then.
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Marty, let us know what you think as well.
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I think that the number one concern is hezbollah.
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That is the biggest, strongest, most equipped and trained enemy
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And the super close to us.
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So i think that's the number one.
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Yeah. marty, i completely agree.
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And it's what we're watching is again,
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Is the iranian regime pumping everything they can into
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The region, trying to save their lost investment in hezbollah,
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In syria itself and hamas in judea and samaria.
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They're doing everything they can to hold on to
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Whatever they can in this huge reshuffling of power
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That president trump is leading in the middle east.
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Yeah, the trump effect. and, marty, you said it.
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The death throes of the iranian regime
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Are desperately clinging to what they had.
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But it's all been blown up quite literally.
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We're going to talk more about that
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After the break with marty and yaya.
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The president of syria, a former al-qaida commander,
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Was at the white house this week.
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What do we make of that?
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Can he be trusted more with marty and year after the break?
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Stick around.
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Stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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We are talking to our very good friends, marty,
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Shoshana and yaya pinto.
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They are co-host of boots
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On the ground, seen right here on tbn.
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Every thursday night.
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Folks also check out their youtube channel at tbn israel.
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I think over 1.5 million subscribers now got 1.6.
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Amazing.
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It is surprising for such a time as this.
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It goes without saying, incredible
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Reporting on the ground that you won't see anywhere else
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On the ground from israel.
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We had ahmed al shah, a gentleman.
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He is the former al-qaida commander
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Who was now the president of syria.
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Not too long ago, about a year ago, he had a $10 million bounty
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On his head, courtesy of the united states.
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And now, earlier this week, he was at the white house.
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Let's take a look.
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Yeah, you can expect some announcements on syria.
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We want to see syria become
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A country that's very successful.
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And i think this leader can do it.
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I really do. i think this leader can do it.
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And people said he's had a rough past.
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We've all had rough pasts, but he has had a rough past.
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And i think, frankly, if you didn't
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Have a rough patch, you wouldn't have a chance.
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He gets
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Along very well with turkey, with president erdogan. is
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A great leader.
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Erdogan's a great leader and very much in favor
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Of what's happening in syria.
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Okay, guys, very interesting.
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A lot to unpack there.
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President trump praising ahmed al shara, the syrian president,
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Praising recep erdogan, the turkish president,
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Who we've criticized here on the show, and rightfully so.
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He is a muslim brotherhood anti-israel ideologue.
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Marty, we'll start with you.
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We were talking off-camera about the trump effect here.
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What's trump's angle here?
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How do you see this?
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I think there's a brilliance and a tactical understanding
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Of the way power works
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In the trump administration that we often miss.
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And what it is, is they're able to identify
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The pragmatic nature of the different governments
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And the dictators that lead many of them,
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And understanding that they're problematic
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And understanding they're they're tricky to work with.
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Erdogan is a great case of that.
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But he's done so with many people,
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Including the qataris.
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He says, look, we're up against.
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And if i was in his seat up as the u.s.
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Up against the chinese threat on the horizon,
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Up against the russian problem that's taking place in europe
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And several other big conflicts that are coming down the line.
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He says, how do i align all these people
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Behind my interests?
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And the way he does that,
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He speaks to their desire for power.
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He speaks to their desire for influence, for finances.
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And he he massages and manipulates whatever works.
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And i have to tell you, it has been working.
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Look at what trump did.
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I mean, he he brought in the qataris.
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He brought in the turks, he brought in the egyptians,
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He brought in other jordanians to a lesser degree,
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Even the palestinians.
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All that wants to show
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And gets them to play along, including
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Several european governments.
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And he
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I mean, he's just masterful
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At really working whatever works for these people.
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And i don't think he's blind to the fact
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That al-qaida is a problematic character.
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I don't think he's blind to the fact that elder
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Cohen is a problematic leader.
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What he does is he sees the need
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To bring them onto the side of the u.s.
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With all their shortcomings,
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And what the move that he's making,
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If he can stabilize syria
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And still doesn't have total troops inside syria,
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If he can rebuild lebanon.
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Israel doesn't have to have the same
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Amount of troops in lebanon.
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We're talking about reshaping the middle east
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In a way that is has been decades in the making.
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And if it takes using erdogan
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And using a shout out to do that, so be it.
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I'd say from an israeli perspective,
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I think that's a lot better than the alternative
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Of more destabilization in the hands of the iranians.
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You know, great points all around.
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And yeah, the abraham accords, marty just mentioned
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There have been rumblings that syria under al shah,
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Of all people, may actually join the accords.
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Saudi arabia, of course, we've heard about lebanon, indonesia,
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As we survey
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This new middle east where the iranian axis
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Is weakened, as we discussed earlier.
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Do you see possibilities for the abraham accords?
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Perhaps in 2026, for that to be very much back on the table?
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It's been shown that peace is made
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With the strong side, and israel has been proven
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To be the strong side in this conflict.
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And the middle east is reshaped.
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We have a new middle east peace through strength. yes.
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And it's always worked.
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It's amazing to see what god has been doing
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Through israel in the middle east in the past three years.
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Just miracles on a biblical scale.
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You know, every day when you wake up in the morning,
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It's just amazing to know that our god is listening
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And is performing amazing miracles in modern days.
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But let's go back to al qaida, al giuliani,
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However you like to call this former al-qaida leader,
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Because he's not doing this out of his own good heart.
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Okay.
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His regime is hanging on by a thread,
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And many extreme oppositions don't like the fact that he's
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Communicating with the west.
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You said he's talking about israel. yeah, yeah.
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Isis, al qaida
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And other terrorist regimes, including iranian militias.
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They want to get their control back in syria so that they can
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Smuggle weapons into lebanon and re strengthen hezbollah.
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So this guy needs all the help he can get just to stay alive
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And to survive.
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So i think that that's good for israel, for the united states.
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And that is a good reason
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That we can trust him to actually honor these agreements,
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Because he has no other choice.
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Yeah.
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So i don't think that he became a reformist.
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He just is with his backs against the wall.
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Yeah. and how does israel feel about him?
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We got about a minute left.
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So israel is it knows who is very cautious about him.
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But israel wants to have a long term solution
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That will guarantee our security and the security
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Of the residents of the northern border.
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So if it's with israeli boots on the ground
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Or with american boots on the ground,
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These are the main two options, not the united nations.
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Right.
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And the golan heights, obviously
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Completely off the table, which is israeli territory.
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Marty, quick question about 30s the houthis.
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They took some major blows, it seems. courtesy of israel.
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They took some major blows, a series of blows
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Going back to the us, attacks
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On their facilities within, yemen, northern yemen,
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Specifically, then pressure by israel.
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But i'd say it's the combination of everything.
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It's the weakening of their overlords,
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The iranians,
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Their ability to pump money and weapons into the country.
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The lack of relevance of their operations
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In the red sea
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Because of the military presence,
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And then the ongoing strikes by israel,
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Ultimately eliminating several of their facilities
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And leadership, sort of cells have really brought them down.
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And i'd say they probably lost momentum in the region
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Because of their lack of efficacy in really making
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A substantial difference in recent months.
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Yeah, great things are happening, guys.
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I mean, despite all the madness, great things are happening.
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But does that include in gaza?
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We've got an update with the iron marty
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On the latest hamas refusing to disarm.
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What about that gaza peace plan?
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We'll get the full breakdown after the break.
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Don't move.
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Don't move.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight
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We are talking to our very good friend
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Jair pinto and marty shoshone, co-host of boots on the ground,
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Seen right here on thursday night on tbn.
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Gentlemen. gaza.
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Look, we've done a pretty good
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Around the horn breakdown of the region
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Thus far in our conversation here.
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You've spent time, obviously, in gaza, your idf reserves,
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The latest hamas refusing to disarm
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Most of the hostages home.
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Now, hamas has been dragging its feet
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In releasing the remains
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Of the deceased hostages, but only a few left.
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Now, i believe
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We've got some hamas jihadis as we talk right here,
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At least trapped underground in the tunnels.
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A prisoner of their own making, i should say.
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What are your thoughts on gaza and where it's heading
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Is at 20 point peace plan president trump laid out.
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Can it ultimately work if hamas isn't on board?
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It can work.
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And the only way it can work is if israel
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And the united states,
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Together with the arab mediator, countries that are on
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Board, will pressure hamas like serious pressure
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To return all the remains of the hostages
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And then complete the stage a of this deal,
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And then move on to stage b, which the core part of it
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Is the disarming of hamas in the gaza strip.
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Know we're still in phase
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One, by the way, like you said, exactly.
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Full form for too long already, and this time is moving
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In favor of hamas terrorists
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Because they're regaining their control in gaza.
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They're training their new recruits.
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They are pressuring
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Other palestinian oppositions to yield down to their needs.
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They're gaining more money, more civilian control.
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And the longer we drag this out, the further away
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The peace plan between israel, the gaza strip and the new
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Palestinian government or leadership will be from us.
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So we have to pressure hamas because they do not want peace
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With israel.
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They just want to buy time to wait
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For the next
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American administration in the united states.
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Yeah,
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And they're murdering their fellow
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Palestinians in the streets,
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Accusing them of being israeli collaborators.
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What's your sense, marty, of a post hamas gaza?
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We've been talking about the trump effect,
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And he sees he's got that vision.
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He's outside the box thinker.
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What's your sense of a post
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Hamas gaza and what that looks like.
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And so the first thing we really need to understand
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Is no one ever expected hamas to just lay down their arms
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And leave the gaza strip, that that was a misunderstanding.
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If anyone walked away with that notion,
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What they always were planning to do is to fight back.
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And the idea that trump presented in his 20 point plan,
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Or what used to be the 21 point plan,
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Was to replace them by force.
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And it's the layering, the stacking of all the elements
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Of pressure on the tactical level.
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Israeli boots on the ground inside the gaza strip.
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So that's on a military level
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That's working amazingly right now.
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Then you have the incentive package.
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If you give up your weapons,
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If you leave, if we bring in a replacement,
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Other countries will rebuild humanitarian aid,
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The rebuilding of the gaza people
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And possible amnesty for hamas terrorists.
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And then the stick on top of all of that is
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If you don't do that, here are all these coalitions
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And specifically in this game are the turks and the qataris.
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That said to hamas, international leadership,
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If you don't play along with with our demands, you are done.
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And done
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Means they can't travel anywhere in the world
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Without the fear of assassination, or by israel,
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Or by those countries themselves.
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And all of that together
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Is the game plan that allows
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Phase two to take place,
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Which is an international coalition
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That's already been built on the ground
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In facilities and forces pulling together different countries.
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So it's not one country, not just the u.s.,
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Not just israel,
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Everyone together
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Rebuilding and then forcing on the head of hamas,
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An international force with whatever acronym
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It's going to end up with at the end
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To really rebuild the gaza strip
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For civil life, then humanitarian
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And ultimately military that replaces hamas.
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Yeah, might be a great breakdown.
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And as you said,
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It's key to the arab and muslim nations on board for this.
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And that changed everything once they got on board.
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Hey, shifting gears a bit. yeah.
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Here we see this explosion of antisemitism.
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We expect it from the radical islamist.
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We expect it from the radical left.
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There's a portion of the so-called right
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Right now in america, i think of tucker
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Carlson, candace owens, and people like this
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Who are engaging in really vicious anti-israel,
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Rhetoric and downright anti-semitic, in my view.
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Yeah. what's your view from israel?
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How closely are people in israel following this kind of,
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Division inside the conservative movement in america right now?
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It all boils down again
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To the jewish people in the state of israel.
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Well, it looks like it's always coming
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Back to the point that this is a spiritual war.
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And a spiritual war is cross-border, not just a left
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Or right political anti-israel bias.
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It's something deeper.
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It's something from the spirit.
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And we see that the enemy tried with the radical left failed.
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Now he's trying
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With the radical right, which the people of israel
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Not realizing that they're not 100% on our corner.
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So this is something isolationist
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Wing and it's anti-israel.
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Yeah.
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So this is something very,
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Very serious that we need to deal with.
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We need to keep sharing the truth
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Like you're doing here every night.
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So it's just amazing.
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And we need to pray.
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We need to pray for the peace of jerusalem
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And for god to change this window of the spirit of evil.
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Yeah.
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And this internal battle is unfolding right now, marty.
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And i'm encouraged because people are speaking out.
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I've spoken out about it.
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Of course,
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The majority portion of the right
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Is speaking out against this madness.
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Yeah, i think there's more that needs to be done.
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Yeah. and it's 88 point.
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The big the big issue here
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Is, is the departure from biblical values
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And a knowledge of what the bible says
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About these topics.
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It's not just about politics.
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It's not just about information.
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It's not just about what character it is.
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And you can get
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Into the personal conversation of who's funding tucker
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And why he's saying these things,
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And what political
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And religious influences are on candace owens.
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But the bottom line is, is
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When you depart from the truth that is clearly in the bible.
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So you can't really read reality without the three tenants
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Of of understanding biblical scripture,
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A knowledge of what's really happening.
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And isaiah says, prayer,
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The three of them together, you have those.
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You're going to understand what's happening in the world.
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You don't have those three
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The biblical scripture, the knowledge and the prayer.
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You're going to go astray
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And start listening to crazy people
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Who say insane things about the us influence around the world.
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And let me just say this from the israeli perspective.
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Well, president trump
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And his government have done in israel is a biblical magnitude
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Of being able
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To pull and rally countries together in support of israel
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In this time.
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It is unheard of, and it is historic
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On every possible level, and it's biblical.
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And the opposition to that is exactly the same.
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It is a biblical and spiritual,
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Anti-israel and anti-god sentiment that is,
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Pretending to be just an america first agenda.
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It is an america first.
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It's godless.
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That's what it is.
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So true.
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It's all about if you hate the
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People of israel, you hate the god of israel.
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And that's what boils down to god's great points all around.
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Final thoughts with marty.
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And yeah, coming up, stick around.
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And yeah, coming up, stick around.
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Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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We are wrapping up here with marty, shoshana and yaya
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Pinto again every thursday night.
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Final thought share prayer points.
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How about some prayer points real quick?
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How can we be praying for israel
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And for you and marty right now?
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Well, thanks for asking that.
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I think that's the key in changing the situation
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Of what's happening around the world.
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So one thing i would say, pray for wisdom to our leaders,
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To all the leaders that are involved in
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This conflict, can be your leaders.
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Wherever you are around the world, can be the leaders
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Of israel and can be the leaders of the enemies of israel.
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Okay, god can work and change the hearts of anybody.
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And i really believe that.
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The second thing that god has placed on my heart lately
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Is a very hard point is to pray for enemies.
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It's very hard to pray for them,
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Especially as you and your kids are in a bomb shelter
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Waiting for the missile to land or to hopefully be intercepted.
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But that's what god said.
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And i do try to do what he tells me where we'd argue exactly.
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But he told me, don't pray for the missiles to succeed.
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Pray that they will start to have a change of heart
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Than loving and israel, instead of, you know, hating.
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The jewish people no doubt hate the supernatural hate.
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You can change that into a supernatural love.
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The third thing i would say pray for the idf soldiers
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And the families.
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It's already been 760 days or something like that.
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The war.
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And it's very hard on the family unit of israel.
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So pray for the wife, the kids at home, or the husband
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And the kids at home, depending if the wife is serving.
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Amen. and then the last thing.
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Hostages. hostages are back home.
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They're starting the process of getting back to their lives.
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Many of them don't know what chatgpt is, even
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Because they've been in tunnels for three years.
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So let's pray for them.
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Yeah. amen.
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Great prayer points all around.
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And, monty, can you take us out with a quick prayer?
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Yes. let's do that.
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I'm sure we thank you for your sovereign
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Plan for this world in this middle east.
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And we thank you for revealing your faithfulness and your,
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Steadfast nature to the people of israel
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And those who follow you
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Over these two years for revealing to me personally,
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To you, to our families, and to the nation of israel
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And we ask that you work in the hearts of our leaders
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To bring forth a peace, and a, sustained ceasefire
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In this region in a way that we don't see
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Coming as we have before,
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And continue to work through our leaders,
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To president trump,
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To foreign minister netanyahu
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And everyone else, including erdogan
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And the other leaders
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Of the arab world,
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Because, god,
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You work in miraculous and unexpected ways,
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And we thank you for your faithfulness.
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We ask you to safeguard the hearts
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Of the people of israel, and to bless all those who stand
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And pray for the people of israel
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And for god's sovereignty around the world.
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Amen, amen, amen, guys. great job.
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Always a pleasure being with you folks.
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Great being with you all this week.
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We've got some great shows lined up next week.
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Until then, god bless you and we'll see you soon.
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Erick Stakelbeck: November 13, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

November 13, 2025 | 25:5

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