Erick Stakelbeck: October 9, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight

October 9, 2025 | 25:5

In the film "The Dragon's Prophecy," filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza explores the spiritual battle between good and evil as it unfolds in the Middle East. Through biblical archeology and on-the-ground experiences in Israel, he delves into the historical and current significance of the land, showcasing how Israel's enemies are also America's enemies. With powerful interviews and never-before-seen footage, the film highlights the importance of standing with Israel and the profound impact of spiritual warfare on modern geopolitics. It's a timely and thought-provoking examination of the enduring struggle between light and darkness in a world filled with chaos and conflict.

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  • Welcome to stakelbeck tonight i'm erick stakelbeck,
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  • And the hostages are coming home.
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  • Hamas has agreed to president trump's gaza peace plan.
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  • And, folks, they really had no choice.
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  • It was either release the hostages
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  • And lay down their arms or be destroyed.
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  • And so, in the coming days, hamas will release all of the 20
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  • Remaining live israeli hostages and the remains of 28 more
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  • Who were murdered.
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  • Israel will pull back its forces in gaza, but will maintain
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  • A security perimeter inside the strip.
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  • The downside is that israel will also release hundreds
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  • Of palestinian terrorists from israeli jails.
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  • It's a tough price to pay, but with hamas
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  • Almost completely smashed and even the arab
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  • And muslim world lining up behind president trump's deal.
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  • Israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu decided it was
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  • Worth it in order to finally bring the hostages home
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  • And put an end to the gaza war.
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  • Right.
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  • As we mark two years since the october 7th massacre.
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  • Now, the next phase of the deal requires hamas to disarm,
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  • Which will be challenging, no doubt.
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  • But in the meantime, there is jubilation in israel.
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  • And remember the news comes during the holiday of sukkot,
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  • The feast of tabernacles.
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  • The october 7th massacre
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  • Came on the final day of this same holiday two years ago.
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  • So things have now come full circle, and none of this
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  • Would have been possible without president trump.
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  • This is yet another masterstroke of diplomacy
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  • And statecraft by the president and his team.
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  • Peace through strength always gets results.
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  • Here's more from president trump.
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  • As you know, last night we
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  • Reached a momentous breakthrough in the middle east,
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  • Something that people have said was never going to be done.
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  • We ended the war in gaza
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  • And really on a much bigger basis, created peace.
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  • And i think it's going to be a lasting peace,
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  • Hopefully, and everlasting peace.
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  • Peace in the middle east.
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  • We secure the release of all of
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  • The remaining hostages, and they should be released on
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  • Monday or tuesday.
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  • Folks, this is now the eighth war
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  • That president trump has ended through diplomacy.
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  • In the past nine months alone.
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  • If he doesn't
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  • Receive the nobel peace prize, they should just retire
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  • The award. it'll have no significance.
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  • Trump's diplomatic approach is so successful
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  • Because he projects strength, demands respect.
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  • Uses common sense, thinks outside the box,
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  • And does not hesitate to use america's considerable leverage.
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  • And then bibi netanyahu, he's got the perfect partner.
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  • Together, they're making history.
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  • And with the gaza war winding down, you can expect the abraham
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  • Accords, peace treaties to now be very much back on the table
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  • With saudi arabia and other arab and muslim nations lining up
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  • To normalize relations with israel.
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  • We live in exciting prophetic times,
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  • But not everyone is happy about it.
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  • On tuesday in new york city, on the two year anniversary
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  • Of the october 7th massacre, hundreds of pro hamas works
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  • Marked the occasion by gathering in front of trump tower
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  • To engage in muslim prayers
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  • And call for more october 7th style attacks.
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  • Watch. we did not act in a way.
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  • If we acted in a.
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  • Headline behind, we would read.
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  • We have been liberated.
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  • So our work is not done
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  • To show up
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  • Stronger than we did the 1st
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  • October seven.
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  • Louder than we did
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  • The 1st october.
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  • To make it clear,
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  • We are not going anywhere.
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  • Folks, again, that's new york city,
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  • Usa on october 7th.
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  • And there were similar anti-semitic protest rallies
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  • Worldwide.
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  • If it all seems completely insane and evil,
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  • That's because it is.
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  • Coming up, we're joined by filmmaker
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  • And bestselling author dinesh d'souza
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  • To hear about his brand new film that exposes the spiritual war
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  • Being waged
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  • Against god's people and land, and how to fight back.
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  • And it all starts now.
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  • Dinesh d'souza has powerful new film.
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  • The dragon's prophecy brings history, current events,
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  • And biblical prophecy
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  • Together in a way few filmmakers dare to attempt.
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  • Based on jonathan kahn's international bestseller,
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  • The film includes never before seen october 7th footage,
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  • Onsite reporting, and compelling interviews with figures
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  • Like israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu,
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  • Ambassador mike huckabee and yours truly.
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  • If you want to understand the stakes behind the headlines
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  • And how israel's current wars against evil echo
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  • Ancient biblical battles, you need to see this film.
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  • Here's a sneak peek.
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  • Then another sign appeared
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  • In heaven an enormous red dragon.
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  • Revelation 12 three.
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  • Once again, an armed attack in the middle east.
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  • But this time it's different.
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  • October 7th
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  • Was the devil's holiday.
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  • It's very hard to believe what happened.
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  • Even though i was there and seen with my own eyes.
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  • And seeing them laughing and killing and having fun with it.
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  • Because if you don't open the door,
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  • They are going to kill you and they are going to kill me.
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  • So please open the door.
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  • So who are the jews?
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  • Who are the palestinians and whose land is it really?
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  • Good.
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  • The fate of the world, of humanity itself
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  • Is somehow tied to this place.
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  • The nation of israel is a reservoir connected nation.
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  • So what if there was going to be a resurrection
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  • Of another people, an enemy people of israel?
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  • The bible speaks
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  • About this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy,
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  • Attacking a woman representing israel.
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  • Civilian deaths on both sides represent victories
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  • On the part of the dragon, and must put everything
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  • Within their ability to maximize the civilian casualties.
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  • We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty,
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  • And we brought it back to life, and we are going to keep it.
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  • The devil hates the jewish people
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  • Because they represent the existence of god.
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  • Because without that jewish foundation,
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  • There is no christianity.
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  • If we're approaching the end of time, god will reveal himself
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  • More and more and dramatically speak back through the stones.
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  • The story that they've been telling
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  • Is that israel is a colonial project.
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  • The problem with that is the city of david.
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  • We are an inconvenient truth.
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  • Are you aware of any significant
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  • Archeological finding that contra the bible?
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  • No. god's word stands firm to god.
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  • The dragon will not prevail.
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  • Earth to god.
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  • Your message here is become a dragon slayer.
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  • That's based on jonathan kahn's number one
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  • International bestseller and the dragon's prophecy.
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  • And dinesh joins us now.
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  • Dinesh, such a great job on the film.
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  • I was honored to appear in it, by the way, in theaters
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  • This week.
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  • Theaters were sold out nationwide
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  • To see the dragon's prophecy, and for good reason.
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  • The number one.
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  • Let's start with the dragon's prophecy.
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  • What exactly does the title of the film represent?
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  • The dragon's prophecy is a reference
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  • To the book of revelation.
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  • Revelation 12, where a dragon representing
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  • The devil declares war on a woman representing israel
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  • And the woman is pregnant, representing the messiah.
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  • So the idea here is that there is a world behind the world,
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  • And that when we observe events in front of us,
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  • There is behind them a kind of
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  • Moral and spiritual battle raging.
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  • And it's nothing less than a battle
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  • Between good and evil, between god and the devil.
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  • A battle that has been going on since the beginning of time,
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  • But that is in some ways
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  • Becoming more stark and more manifest in our time.
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  • So this is a film that connects the past.
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  • Biblical archeology, and the ancient battles between
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  • Israel and the philistines described in the bible.
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  • With things going on now and then, a look
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  • Forward to the unfolding of biblical prophecy.
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  • It's all
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  • Packed together in a film that is based on jonathan kahn's
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  • International bestseller called the dragon's prophecy.
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  • Yeah, dinesh,
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  • It goes for what we're seeing unfold right now
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  • In the middle east
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  • And really beyond goes far beyond geopolitics.
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  • It is a spiritual battle.
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  • I believe, in the film, you're on the ground.
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  • You're in those hard hit communities in southern israel.
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  • What struck you most in your on the ground
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  • Experiences filming for the dragons prophecy in israel?
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  • To me, one of the most haunting moments was,
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  • Being in one of the kibbutz is,
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  • And there is a conversation,
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  • With a woman,
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  • Namely shai miran and her husband, omri.
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  • Miran is one of the hostages in gaza.
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  • In fact, hamas claims to have, quote, lost him.
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  • So i don't think that means that's probably not a good sign.
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  • But in any event, he was taken captive.
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  • So here is lee.
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  • Shai was standing outside in her
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  • Front yard of the little kibbutz,
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  • And we can actually hear bombs going off
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  • And we can hear machine gunfire.
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  • So obviously the war is raging
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  • And it's raging just a football field away.
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  • And gaza.
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  • Not only that, but as she's talking about her captivity,
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  • About how these hamas monsters, as she puts it,
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  • How they came through the window,
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  • They were in her house, they were shouting at her
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  • And her husband to come out of the safe room.
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  • They grabbed the teenage kid next door.
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  • They put a gun to his head
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  • And they tell him, listen, tell him to open the door
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  • Or we're going to shoot you right now.
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  • I realized as i was talking to her about this,
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  • That we have the actual footage of the hamas terrorists
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  • Coming into her house.
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  • And so it's a very remarkable
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  • Feeling where someone is describing
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  • A set of events that occurred in the past,
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  • And you happen to have video footage of those exact events,
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  • You know, then it is stunning.
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  • It is powerful. again, folks can stream it right now.
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  • The dragon's prophecy film.com.
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  • More with filmmaker dinesh d'souza.
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  • After the break. we're talking dragon's prophecy.
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  • Why israel matters to you and what the prime minister
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  • Netanyahu had to say during his interview with him
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  • For the film. find out after the break.
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  • For the film. find out after the break.
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  • It seems like
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  • In our time, radical islam has been the primary
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  • Transmitter of terrorism.
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  • It's been said that not all muslims are terrorists,
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  • But all terrorism in the modern age seems to be committed
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  • By muslims.
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  • We're seeing a great resurgence of radical islam.
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  • I really think it began in 1979.
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  • Chaotic celebrations erupted in tehran when the news broke.
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  • The shah had gone. the shah is defeated.
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  • Colony has won.
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  • Iran was a friend of israel, a friend of the united states
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  • In the west.
  • 00:12:27.679 --> 00:12:28.580
  • That all changed in 1979.
  • 00:12:28.580 --> 00:12:30.849
  • That was really the watershed moment for modern day terror,
  • 00:12:30.849 --> 00:12:34.552
  • Because terrorists around the world,
  • 00:12:34.552 --> 00:12:36.120
  • Whether they were sunni, shia, they saw the ayatollah
  • 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:39.390
  • Did in iran, it inspired jihadis around the world.
  • 00:12:39.390 --> 00:12:42.427
  • They said,
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  • If they can do it, perhaps we can do the dragon's prophecy.
  • 00:12:43.695 --> 00:12:47.599
  • That was a scene from
  • 00:12:48.099 --> 00:12:49.100
  • The blockbuster new film the dragon's prophecy.
  • 00:12:49.100 --> 00:12:52.036
  • Folks, you can stream it right now.
  • 00:12:52.036 --> 00:12:53.438
  • Visit the dragon's prophecy film.com,
  • 00:12:53.438 --> 00:12:57.041
  • And the man behind the film is joining us.
  • 00:12:57.041 --> 00:12:59.544
  • Dinesh d'souza, our good friend is back with us folks.
  • 00:12:59.544 --> 00:13:01.880
  • By the way, follow dinesh on social media.
  • 00:13:01.880 --> 00:13:04.449
  • Look, he has 5.2 million followers
  • 00:13:04.449 --> 00:13:08.353
  • And that's for a very good reason
  • 00:13:08.353 --> 00:13:09.587
  • Because he's putting together
  • 00:13:09.587 --> 00:13:10.488
  • Great and important and timely content
  • 00:13:10.488 --> 00:13:13.057
  • Like the dragon's prophecy.
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  • Dinesh, i think we talked about iran in that clip.
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  • I think a big takeaway for me from the film is something we,
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  • Both you and i think are both driven home on our platforms,
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  • That israel is the first line of defense
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  • For western civilization.
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  • Israel's enemies and america's enemies are one in the same.
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  • Could you break that down a bit more?
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  • Yeah.
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  • For me, the connection operates at three levels.
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  • There is the the strategic level where, yes,
  • 00:13:40.118 --> 00:13:43.821
  • Israel is on the front right lines fighting radical islam.
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  • They know how to do it.
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  • In fact, they do it much better than we do.
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  • We were you mentioned in this clip you talk about iran.
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  • Look, jimmy carter pulled out the persian rug from the shah.
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  • That's how khomeini came to power.
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  • That's how radical islam got a hold of a major state.
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  • So the u.s.
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  • Record in fighting radical islam very, very mixed.
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  • We expelled the taliban after 911, but they came back.
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  • We've kind of made a bit of a mess
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  • About the over the iraq war.
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  • Israel, by contrast, knows what it's doing.
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  • They're able to take on these jihadis in sudan, in yemen,
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  • In, in, in iran, obviously in, in gaza.
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  • And they do it with a kind of strategic brilliance.
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  • I mean, i'm thinking
  • 00:14:31.369 --> 00:14:31.970
  • Here of that pager
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  • Attack, for example, and i think to
  • 00:14:32.904 --> 00:14:34.305
  • Myself, could rcaf pull that off?
  • 00:14:34.305 --> 00:14:36.574
  • I don't think so.
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  • So there's that strategic rationale that israel knows how
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  • To do this fight. they're on the front lines.
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  • They do it really well.
  • 00:14:43.047 --> 00:14:44.315
  • But the second is that western civilization itself is based on
  • 00:14:44.315 --> 00:14:48.086
  • Athens and jerusalem, two massive pillars.
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  • And there appear to be some people,
  • 00:14:51.289 --> 00:14:52.824
  • Including some people on the right,
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  • Who think you can, like, keep athens but get rid of jerusalem.
  • 00:14:54.125 --> 00:14:57.195
  • Know why?
  • 00:14:57.195 --> 00:14:58.730
  • Because jerusalem gives us creation.
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  • It gives us the exodus.
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  • It gives us abraham and isaac.
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  • It gives us the ten commandments.
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  • It gives us the teaching of the psalms and the hebrew prophets.
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  • Do you really think
  • 00:15:09.874 --> 00:15:11.109
  • Western civilization would be what it is or could survive
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  • Without that? no.
  • 00:15:14.045 --> 00:15:15.913
  • And then there's the spiritual side,
  • 00:15:15.913 --> 00:15:17.548
  • Which is, of course, the idea that that the messiah
  • 00:15:17.548 --> 00:15:21.285
  • Comes through israel.
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  • God has a blessing, to israel, that, by the way, will carry
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  • On to those who embrace israel and those who bless israel.
  • 00:15:27.725 --> 00:15:31.796
  • That is the kind of divine prescription of the divine
  • 00:15:31.796 --> 00:15:34.499
  • Element here. all three, by the way,
  • 00:15:34.499 --> 00:15:36.300
  • In one way or another, are in this film.
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  • Hey, about a minute left before the break.
  • 00:15:38.369 --> 00:15:39.771
  • Then we will bring you right back.
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  • Big takeaways from your sit down with bibi, with prime
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  • Minister netanyahu.
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  • Well, i started off by surprising him a little bit.
  • 00:15:46.577 --> 00:15:48.746
  • I asked him, like, what do you think of jesus?
  • 00:15:48.746 --> 00:15:51.349
  • He had a little pause and a little bit of a grin
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  • Because, he knew what i was doing.
  • 00:15:53.618 --> 00:15:55.386
  • I'm basically asking the jewish head
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  • Of a jewish state
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  • To comment on the most famous jew of all time,
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  • And but he handled it beautifully,
  • 00:16:01.692 --> 00:16:03.294
  • Because really, what he did was he said, well, you know,
  • 00:16:03.294 --> 00:16:05.263
  • There are people these days who think jesus is a palestinian
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  • Or he is some he was something other than a jew from israel.
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  • And he goes on to emphasize jesus's jewishness.
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  • So i think this was an excellent,
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  • Sort of
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  • This was a case
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  • Where israel is
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  • Basically recognizing,
  • 00:16:22.847 --> 00:16:24.115
  • I think, the importance of the christians.
  • 00:16:24.115 --> 00:16:26.617
  • And here's netanyahu basically saying,
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  • I'm not embracing jesus theologically,
  • 00:16:28.619 --> 00:16:30.988
  • But i am embracing
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  • Jesus historically and culturally as one of us did.
  • 00:16:32.590 --> 00:16:36.394
  • That's great stuff all around.
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  • Hey, you mentioned a pool of siloam
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  • And the pilgrimage road in jerusalem coming up
  • 00:16:39.063 --> 00:16:41.666
  • More with dinesh d'souza.
  • 00:16:41.666 --> 00:16:43.234
  • We're going to talk about the importance of
  • 00:16:43.234 --> 00:16:45.036
  • Biblical archeology in the fight for israel's survival today.
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  • That's next. don't move.
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  • That's next. don't move.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
  • 00:16:59.819 --> 00:17:01.488
  • We are talking to the man
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  • Behind the blockbuster new film the dragon's prophecy.
  • 00:17:02.789 --> 00:17:06.359
  • Our good friend dinesh d'souza is with us. dinesh.
  • 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.195
  • One of the things i love about the film is you pay a visit to
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  • Perhaps my favorite place in all of jerusalem,
  • 00:17:12.732 --> 00:17:15.602
  • The city of david.
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  • You're with our good friend stakelbeck tonight.
  • 00:17:16.903 --> 00:17:18.571
  • Viewers know him well, ze'ev orenstein,
  • 00:17:18.571 --> 00:17:20.907
  • And you dig in to biblical archeology,
  • 00:17:20.907 --> 00:17:23.610
  • Which really not only verifies the truth of the bible,
  • 00:17:23.610 --> 00:17:26.779
  • But the jewish people's long standing presence
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  • And claim to the land.
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  • Tell us why biblical archeology plays such an important factor
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  • In this entire conversation that we're having.
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  • Once i decided to base the film on jonathan kahn's book,
  • 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.595
  • I realized that kahn speaks in a way to an audience
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  • That already accepts the authority of the bible.
  • 00:17:46.666 --> 00:17:50.637
  • But i have an audience that is christian but also secular.
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  • And so i realize i'm going
  • 00:17:55.141 --> 00:17:56.509
  • To have people who say, well, yeah, dinesh, but how do we know
  • 00:17:56.509 --> 00:17:59.712
  • That pontius pilate or the high priest caiaphas,
  • 00:17:59.712 --> 00:18:03.616
  • Or the prophets jeremiah or isaiah or king david?
  • 00:18:03.616 --> 00:18:08.421
  • How do we know that these are real people?
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  • How do we know that the bible is describing true events?
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  • And i flashback to when i went to college.
  • 00:18:16.029 --> 00:18:18.965
  • You know,
  • 00:18:18.965 --> 00:18:19.332
  • There was
  • 00:18:19.332 --> 00:18:20.333
  • The heyday of the biblical higher criticism,
  • 00:18:20.333 --> 00:18:22.235
  • Where you have all these armchair literary pundits
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  • Would read the bible and they say, well, looks to me
  • 00:18:24.737 --> 00:18:27.473
  • Like somebody wrote this stuff hundreds of years later
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  • And they probably if
  • 00:18:30.743 --> 00:18:32.078
  • They didn't make stuff up, they embellished greatly.
  • 00:18:32.078 --> 00:18:34.948
  • Now, all of this kind of,
  • 00:18:34.948 --> 00:18:37.417
  • Theories
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  • Has been shot down by astounding discoveries
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  • In biblical archeology, really in the last 25 to 30 years.
  • 00:18:41.854 --> 00:18:46.292
  • And what this archeology is doing, you have you have coins
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  • And you have stone inscriptions and clay seals, artifacts
  • 00:18:50.296 --> 00:18:54.200
  • Coming out of the ground.
  • 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:55.435
  • And they are authenticating the historicity,
  • 00:18:55.435 --> 00:18:58.972
  • Both of the hebrew scriptures and of the christian scriptures.
  • 00:18:58.972 --> 00:19:02.842
  • It's a it's a really remarkable thing,
  • 00:19:02.842 --> 00:19:04.510
  • Because it's almost as if as the world
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  • Is becoming more secular,
  • 00:19:06.412 --> 00:19:08.114
  • It's almost as if as young people
  • 00:19:08.114 --> 00:19:09.782
  • Are learning to speak a certain kind of language of science
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  • And reason, god goes, all right, i'm going to i'm
  • 00:19:13.453 --> 00:19:17.190
  • Going to come back
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  • And i'm going to make my case this time,
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  • Not in the thunderous language of genesis one.
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  • In the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth.
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  • I'm going to speak back through the stones.
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  • I'm going to use the language of science and archeology,
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  • The language of the modern university,
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  • To show you that the events in the bible,
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  • You can dispute the theology of it.
  • 00:19:35.908 --> 00:19:37.710
  • You can reject the miracles.
  • 00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:39.512
  • But this is a true account of real people and events
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  • That actually happened, you know? so well done.
  • 00:19:44.183 --> 00:19:46.386
  • You're combining the irrefutable scientific evidence
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  • With the truth of the bible.
  • 00:19:49.589 --> 00:19:50.790
  • In my view, that's an unbeatable combination.
  • 00:19:50.790 --> 00:19:52.725
  • By the way,
  • 00:19:52.725 --> 00:19:53.693
  • We mentioned seven times the city of david,
  • 00:19:53.693 --> 00:19:55.528
  • Jonathan, con ambassador mike huckabee, eric metaxas, myself.
  • 00:19:55.528 --> 00:19:59.198
  • We're all in the film, folks,
  • 00:19:59.198 --> 00:20:00.967
  • Some faces, voices very well known to tbn viewers.
  • 00:20:00.967 --> 00:20:04.837
  • Needless to say, the last question
  • 00:20:04.837 --> 00:20:07.106
  • About a minute or so left.
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  • This seems to me to be,
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  • And we've been saying it throughout a spiritual battle.
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  • This is really a battle of good versus evil.
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  • Just take us out a bit more elaborate
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  • That on a bit more how this is a deeper struggle
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  • That is real and by extension, judeo-christian
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  • Western civilization is locked in right now.
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  • I would put it this way the
  • 00:20:29.896 --> 00:20:32.765
  • The devil is not strong enough
  • 00:20:32.765 --> 00:20:35.468
  • To dethrone god, and the devil.
  • 00:20:35.468 --> 00:20:38.871
  • Therefore, tends to pick
  • 00:20:38.871 --> 00:20:42.408
  • The things that god cares about the devil's revenge
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  • Just to try to ruin that.
  • 00:20:45.411 --> 00:20:46.612
  • So if you look, for example, at the early books of genesis,
  • 00:20:46.612 --> 00:20:49.048
  • Why does the serpent pick on adam and eve?
  • 00:20:49.048 --> 00:20:51.250
  • What have adam and eve done to the serpent? nothing.
  • 00:20:51.250 --> 00:20:53.619
  • But basically the devil says, if i can ruin god's cherished
  • 00:20:53.619 --> 00:20:58.091
  • Creation, i will get the last laugh on god.
  • 00:20:58.091 --> 00:21:01.661
  • The devil picks on the jews for the exact same reason.
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  • If i can run them out
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  • Of their own ancestral homeland, from the river to the sea,
  • 00:21:06.165 --> 00:21:09.402
  • If i can take their holiest site and sort of desecrated
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  • By putting an islamic victory arch on top of it.
  • 00:21:12.605 --> 00:21:15.408
  • And then if i can target the christians who are the
  • 00:21:15.408 --> 00:21:18.478
  • I guess the bible suggests
  • 00:21:18.478 --> 00:21:19.879
  • That the christians are the spiritual israelites
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  • And grafted, as you said, on to the tree,
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  • If i can have persecution and hatred and venom toward them.
  • 00:21:25.418 --> 00:21:29.489
  • All of which, by the way,
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  • I'm not just doing bible speculation, right?
  • 00:21:31.157 --> 00:21:33.025
  • We see this in our world now.
  • 00:21:33.025 --> 00:21:36.262
  • So the devil is actively at work.
  • 00:21:36.262 --> 00:21:39.265
  • And i think the message of the film
  • 00:21:39.265 --> 00:21:40.900
  • Is that god's people also need to be actively at work.
  • 00:21:40.900 --> 00:21:44.470
  • Jonathan gunn puts it beautifully.
  • 00:21:44.470 --> 00:21:45.838
  • He says,
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  • Listen, just as just as the jews
  • 00:21:46.539 --> 00:21:48.207
  • Have got to put on physical armor
  • 00:21:48.207 --> 00:21:50.143
  • Like the ancient israelites, and go and do battle, we
  • 00:21:50.143 --> 00:21:53.413
  • Christians need to put on some spiritual armor.
  • 00:21:53.413 --> 00:21:56.883
  • We need to go back to the christianity
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  • Of the book of acts, a kind of on fire for jesus christianity.
  • 00:21:58.718 --> 00:22:03.389
  • That is what our country needs.
  • 00:22:03.389 --> 00:22:04.991
  • That is what the world needs, and that is what god wants.
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  • Amen, dinesh.
  • 00:22:08.327 --> 00:22:09.362
  • Well said.
  • 00:22:09.362 --> 00:22:10.329
  • Great job folks. again, stream it right now.
  • 00:22:10.329 --> 00:22:12.532
  • The dragon's prophecy film.com a must see dinesh.
  • 00:22:12.532 --> 00:22:17.737
  • Great job as always, my friend. god bless.
  • 00:22:17.737 --> 00:22:20.006
  • We'll see you again soon.
  • 00:22:20.006 --> 00:22:21.140
  • And coming up after the break,
  • 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:22.375
  • My final thoughts on that very prophecy, the dragon's prophecy.
  • 00:22:22.375 --> 00:22:27.113
  • That's next. stick around.
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  • That's next. stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
  • 00:22:36.267 --> 00:22:37.702
  • What a great conversation with our good friend dinesh d'souza.
  • 00:22:37.702 --> 00:22:40.205
  • The dragons prophecy, folks, is an incredible film
  • 00:22:40.205 --> 00:22:43.308
  • And ultimately a tough subject matter.
  • 00:22:43.308 --> 00:22:45.577
  • October 7th
  • 00:22:45.577 --> 00:22:46.778
  • The war against radical islam, but ultimately uplifting. why?
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  • Think of the gospel of john, chapter one, verse five.
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  • The light shining in the darkness
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  • And the darkness has not overcome it.
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  • Jesus is the light.
  • 00:22:58.556 --> 00:23:00.191
  • He will never be overcome by hamas.
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  • All of israel's enemies.
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  • God almighty is still on the throne.
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  • That's the big takeaway.
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  • Hey monday, david harris junior is with us.
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  • That's going to be a great show.
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  • And if you missed our october
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  • 7th special,
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  • The heroes of october 7th and beyond,
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  • You can catch it right now on tbn.
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  • Plus, god bless you. we'll see you soon.
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