In the film "The Dragon's Prophecy," filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza explores the spiritual battle between good and evil as it unfolds in the Middle East. Through biblical archeology and on-the-ground experiences in Israel, he delves into the historical and current significance of the land, showcasing how Israel's enemies are also America's enemies. With powerful interviews and never-before-seen footage, the film highlights the importance of standing with Israel and the profound impact of spiritual warfare on modern geopolitics. It's a timely and thought-provoking examination of the enduring struggle between light and darkness in a world filled with chaos and conflict.
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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: October 9, 2025 | Stakelbeck Tonight | October 9, 2025
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight i'm erick stakelbeck,
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- And the hostages are coming home.
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- Hamas has agreed to president trump's gaza peace plan.
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- And, folks, they really had no choice.
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- It was either release the hostages
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- And lay down their arms or be destroyed.
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- And so, in the coming days, hamas will release all of the 20
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- Remaining live israeli hostages and the remains of 28 more
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- Who were murdered.
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- Israel will pull back its forces in gaza, but will maintain
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- A security perimeter inside the strip.
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- The downside is that israel will also release hundreds
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- Of palestinian terrorists from israeli jails.
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- It's a tough price to pay, but with hamas
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- Almost completely smashed and even the arab
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- And muslim world lining up behind president trump's deal.
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- Israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu decided it was
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- Worth it in order to finally bring the hostages home
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- And put an end to the gaza war.
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- Right.
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- As we mark two years since the october 7th massacre.
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- Now, the next phase of the deal requires hamas to disarm,
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- Which will be challenging, no doubt.
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- But in the meantime, there is jubilation in israel.
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- And remember the news comes during the holiday of sukkot,
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- The feast of tabernacles.
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- The october 7th massacre
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- Came on the final day of this same holiday two years ago.
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- So things have now come full circle, and none of this
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- Would have been possible without president trump.
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- This is yet another masterstroke of diplomacy
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- And statecraft by the president and his team.
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- Peace through strength always gets results.
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- Here's more from president trump.
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- As you know, last night we
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- Reached a momentous breakthrough in the middle east,
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- Something that people have said was never going to be done.
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- We ended the war in gaza
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- And really on a much bigger basis, created peace.
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- And i think it's going to be a lasting peace,
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- Hopefully, and everlasting peace.
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- Peace in the middle east.
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- We secure the release of all of
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- The remaining hostages, and they should be released on
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- Monday or tuesday.
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- Folks, this is now the eighth war
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- That president trump has ended through diplomacy.
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- In the past nine months alone.
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- If he doesn't
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- Receive the nobel peace prize, they should just retire
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- The award. it'll have no significance.
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- Trump's diplomatic approach is so successful
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- Because he projects strength, demands respect.
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- Uses common sense, thinks outside the box,
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- And does not hesitate to use america's considerable leverage.
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- And then bibi netanyahu, he's got the perfect partner.
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- Together, they're making history.
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- And with the gaza war winding down, you can expect the abraham
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- Accords, peace treaties to now be very much back on the table
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- With saudi arabia and other arab and muslim nations lining up
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- To normalize relations with israel.
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- We live in exciting prophetic times,
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- But not everyone is happy about it.
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- On tuesday in new york city, on the two year anniversary
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- Of the october 7th massacre, hundreds of pro hamas works
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- Marked the occasion by gathering in front of trump tower
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- To engage in muslim prayers
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- And call for more october 7th style attacks.
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- Watch. we did not act in a way.
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- If we acted in a.
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- Headline behind, we would read.
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- We have been liberated.
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- So our work is not done
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- To show up
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- Stronger than we did the 1st
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- October seven.
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- Louder than we did
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- The 1st october.
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- To make it clear,
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- We are not going anywhere.
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- Folks, again, that's new york city,
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- Usa on october 7th.
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- And there were similar anti-semitic protest rallies
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- Worldwide.
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- If it all seems completely insane and evil,
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- That's because it is.
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- Coming up, we're joined by filmmaker
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- And bestselling author dinesh d'souza
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- To hear about his brand new film that exposes the spiritual war
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- Being waged
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- Against god's people and land, and how to fight back.
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- And it all starts now.
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- Dinesh d'souza has powerful new film.
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- The dragon's prophecy brings history, current events,
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- And biblical prophecy
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- Together in a way few filmmakers dare to attempt.
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- Based on jonathan kahn's international bestseller,
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- The film includes never before seen october 7th footage,
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- Onsite reporting, and compelling interviews with figures
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- Like israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu,
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- Ambassador mike huckabee and yours truly.
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- If you want to understand the stakes behind the headlines
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- And how israel's current wars against evil echo
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- Ancient biblical battles, you need to see this film.
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- Here's a sneak peek.
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- Then another sign appeared
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- In heaven an enormous red dragon.
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- Revelation 12 three.
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- Once again, an armed attack in the middle east.
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- But this time it's different.
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- October 7th
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- Was the devil's holiday.
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- It's very hard to believe what happened.
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- Even though i was there and seen with my own eyes.
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- And seeing them laughing and killing and having fun with it.
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- Because if you don't open the door,
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- They are going to kill you and they are going to kill me.
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- So please open the door.
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- So who are the jews?
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- Who are the palestinians and whose land is it really?
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- Good.
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- The fate of the world, of humanity itself
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- Is somehow tied to this place.
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- The nation of israel is a reservoir connected nation.
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- So what if there was going to be a resurrection
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- Of another people, an enemy people of israel?
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- The bible speaks
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- About this whole war as a dragon representing the enemy,
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- Attacking a woman representing israel.
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- Civilian deaths on both sides represent victories
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- On the part of the dragon, and must put everything
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- Within their ability to maximize the civilian casualties.
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- We came back to a land that was largely barren and empty,
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- And we brought it back to life, and we are going to keep it.
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- The devil hates the jewish people
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- Because they represent the existence of god.
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- Because without that jewish foundation,
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- There is no christianity.
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- If we're approaching the end of time, god will reveal himself
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- More and more and dramatically speak back through the stones.
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- The story that they've been telling
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- Is that israel is a colonial project.
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- The problem with that is the city of david.
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- We are an inconvenient truth.
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- Are you aware of any significant
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- Archeological finding that contra the bible?
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- No. god's word stands firm to god.
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- The dragon will not prevail.
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- Earth to god.
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- Your message here is become a dragon slayer.
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- That's based on jonathan kahn's number one
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- International bestseller and the dragon's prophecy.
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- And dinesh joins us now.
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- Dinesh, such a great job on the film.
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- I was honored to appear in it, by the way, in theaters
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- This week.
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- Theaters were sold out nationwide
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- To see the dragon's prophecy, and for good reason.
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- The number one.
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- Let's start with the dragon's prophecy.
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- What exactly does the title of the film represent?
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- The dragon's prophecy is a reference
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- To the book of revelation.
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- Revelation 12, where a dragon representing
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- The devil declares war on a woman representing israel
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- And the woman is pregnant, representing the messiah.
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- So the idea here is that there is a world behind the world,
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- And that when we observe events in front of us,
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- There is behind them a kind of
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- Moral and spiritual battle raging.
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- And it's nothing less than a battle
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- Between good and evil, between god and the devil.
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- A battle that has been going on since the beginning of time,
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- But that is in some ways
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- Becoming more stark and more manifest in our time.
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- So this is a film that connects the past.
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- Biblical archeology, and the ancient battles between
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- Israel and the philistines described in the bible.
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- With things going on now and then, a look
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- Forward to the unfolding of biblical prophecy.
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- It's all
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- Packed together in a film that is based on jonathan kahn's
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- International bestseller called the dragon's prophecy.
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- Yeah, dinesh,
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- It goes for what we're seeing unfold right now
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- In the middle east
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- And really beyond goes far beyond geopolitics.
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- It is a spiritual battle.
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- I believe, in the film, you're on the ground.
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- You're in those hard hit communities in southern israel.
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- What struck you most in your on the ground
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- Experiences filming for the dragons prophecy in israel?
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- To me, one of the most haunting moments was,
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- Being in one of the kibbutz is,
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- And there is a conversation,
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- With a woman,
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- Namely shai miran and her husband, omri.
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- Miran is one of the hostages in gaza.
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- In fact, hamas claims to have, quote, lost him.
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- So i don't think that means that's probably not a good sign.
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- But in any event, he was taken captive.
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- So here is lee.
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- Shai was standing outside in her
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- Front yard of the little kibbutz,
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- And we can actually hear bombs going off
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- And we can hear machine gunfire.
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- So obviously the war is raging
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- And it's raging just a football field away.
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- And gaza.
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- Not only that, but as she's talking about her captivity,
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- About how these hamas monsters, as she puts it,
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- How they came through the window,
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- They were in her house, they were shouting at her
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- And her husband to come out of the safe room.
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- They grabbed the teenage kid next door.
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- They put a gun to his head
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- And they tell him, listen, tell him to open the door
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- Or we're going to shoot you right now.
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- I realized as i was talking to her about this,
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- That we have the actual footage of the hamas terrorists
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- Coming into her house.
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- And so it's a very remarkable
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- Feeling where someone is describing
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- A set of events that occurred in the past,
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- And you happen to have video footage of those exact events,
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- You know, then it is stunning.
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- It is powerful. again, folks can stream it right now.
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- The dragon's prophecy film.com.
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- More with filmmaker dinesh d'souza.
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- After the break. we're talking dragon's prophecy.
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- Why israel matters to you and what the prime minister
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- Netanyahu had to say during his interview with him
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- For the film. find out after the break.
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- For the film. find out after the break.
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- It seems like
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- In our time, radical islam has been the primary
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- Transmitter of terrorism.
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- It's been said that not all muslims are terrorists,
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- But all terrorism in the modern age seems to be committed
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- By muslims.
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- We're seeing a great resurgence of radical islam.
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- I really think it began in 1979.
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- Chaotic celebrations erupted in tehran when the news broke.
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- The shah had gone. the shah is defeated.
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- Colony has won.
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- Iran was a friend of israel, a friend of the united states
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- In the west.
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- That all changed in 1979.
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- That was really the watershed moment for modern day terror,
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- Because terrorists around the world,
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- Whether they were sunni, shia, they saw the ayatollah
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- Did in iran, it inspired jihadis around the world.
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- They said,
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- If they can do it, perhaps we can do the dragon's prophecy.
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- That was a scene from
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- The blockbuster new film the dragon's prophecy.
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- Folks, you can stream it right now.
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- Visit the dragon's prophecy film.com,
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- And the man behind the film is joining us.
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- Dinesh d'souza, our good friend is back with us folks.
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- By the way, follow dinesh on social media.
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- Look, he has 5.2 million followers
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- And that's for a very good reason
- 00:13:08.353 --> 00:13:09.587
- Because he's putting together
- 00:13:09.587 --> 00:13:10.488
- Great and important and timely content
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- Like the dragon's prophecy.
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- Dinesh, i think we talked about iran in that clip.
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- I think a big takeaway for me from the film is something we,
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- Both you and i think are both driven home on our platforms,
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- That israel is the first line of defense
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- For western civilization.
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- Israel's enemies and america's enemies are one in the same.
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- Could you break that down a bit more?
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- Yeah.
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- For me, the connection operates at three levels.
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- There is the the strategic level where, yes,
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- Israel is on the front right lines fighting radical islam.
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- They know how to do it.
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- In fact, they do it much better than we do.
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- We were you mentioned in this clip you talk about iran.
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- Look, jimmy carter pulled out the persian rug from the shah.
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- That's how khomeini came to power.
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- That's how radical islam got a hold of a major state.
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- So the u.s.
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- Record in fighting radical islam very, very mixed.
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- We expelled the taliban after 911, but they came back.
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- We've kind of made a bit of a mess
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- About the over the iraq war.
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- Israel, by contrast, knows what it's doing.
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- They're able to take on these jihadis in sudan, in yemen,
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- In, in, in iran, obviously in, in gaza.
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- And they do it with a kind of strategic brilliance.
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- I mean, i'm thinking
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- Here of that pager
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- Attack, for example, and i think to
- 00:14:32.904 --> 00:14:34.305
- Myself, could rcaf pull that off?
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- I don't think so.
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- So there's that strategic rationale that israel knows how
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- To do this fight. they're on the front lines.
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- They do it really well.
- 00:14:43.047 --> 00:14:44.315
- But the second is that western civilization itself is based on
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- Athens and jerusalem, two massive pillars.
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- And there appear to be some people,
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- Including some people on the right,
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- Who think you can, like, keep athens but get rid of jerusalem.
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- Know why?
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- Because jerusalem gives us creation.
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- It gives us the exodus.
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- It gives us abraham and isaac.
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- It gives us the ten commandments.
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- It gives us the teaching of the psalms and the hebrew prophets.
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- Do you really think
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- Western civilization would be what it is or could survive
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- Without that? no.
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- And then there's the spiritual side,
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- Which is, of course, the idea that that the messiah
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- Comes through israel.
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- God has a blessing, to israel, that, by the way, will carry
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- On to those who embrace israel and those who bless israel.
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- That is the kind of divine prescription of the divine
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- Element here. all three, by the way,
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- In one way or another, are in this film.
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- Hey, about a minute left before the break.
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- Then we will bring you right back.
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- Big takeaways from your sit down with bibi, with prime
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- Minister netanyahu.
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- Well, i started off by surprising him a little bit.
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- I asked him, like, what do you think of jesus?
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- He had a little pause and a little bit of a grin
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- Because, he knew what i was doing.
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- I'm basically asking the jewish head
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- Of a jewish state
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- To comment on the most famous jew of all time,
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- And but he handled it beautifully,
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- Because really, what he did was he said, well, you know,
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- There are people these days who think jesus is a palestinian
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- Or he is some he was something other than a jew from israel.
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- And he goes on to emphasize jesus's jewishness.
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- So i think this was an excellent,
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- Sort of
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- This was a case
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- Where israel is
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- Basically recognizing,
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- I think, the importance of the christians.
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- And here's netanyahu basically saying,
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- I'm not embracing jesus theologically,
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- But i am embracing
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- Jesus historically and culturally as one of us did.
- 00:16:32.590 --> 00:16:36.394
- That's great stuff all around.
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- Hey, you mentioned a pool of siloam
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- And the pilgrimage road in jerusalem coming up
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- More with dinesh d'souza.
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- We're going to talk about the importance of
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- Biblical archeology in the fight for israel's survival today.
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- That's next. don't move.
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- That's next. don't move.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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- We are talking to the man
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- Behind the blockbuster new film the dragon's prophecy.
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- Our good friend dinesh d'souza is with us. dinesh.
- 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:09.195
- One of the things i love about the film is you pay a visit to
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- Perhaps my favorite place in all of jerusalem,
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- The city of david.
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- You're with our good friend stakelbeck tonight.
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- Viewers know him well, ze'ev orenstein,
- 00:17:18.571 --> 00:17:20.907
- And you dig in to biblical archeology,
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- Which really not only verifies the truth of the bible,
- 00:17:23.610 --> 00:17:26.779
- But the jewish people's long standing presence
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- And claim to the land.
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- Tell us why biblical archeology plays such an important factor
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- In this entire conversation that we're having.
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- Once i decided to base the film on jonathan kahn's book,
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- I realized that kahn speaks in a way to an audience
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- That already accepts the authority of the bible.
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- But i have an audience that is christian but also secular.
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- And so i realize i'm going
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- To have people who say, well, yeah, dinesh, but how do we know
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- That pontius pilate or the high priest caiaphas,
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- Or the prophets jeremiah or isaiah or king david?
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- How do we know that these are real people?
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- How do we know that the bible is describing true events?
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- And i flashback to when i went to college.
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- You know,
- 00:18:18.965 --> 00:18:19.332
- There was
- 00:18:19.332 --> 00:18:20.333
- The heyday of the biblical higher criticism,
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- Where you have all these armchair literary pundits
- 00:18:22.235 --> 00:18:24.737
- Would read the bible and they say, well, looks to me
- 00:18:24.737 --> 00:18:27.473
- Like somebody wrote this stuff hundreds of years later
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- And they probably if
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- They didn't make stuff up, they embellished greatly.
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- Now, all of this kind of,
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- Theories
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- Has been shot down by astounding discoveries
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- In biblical archeology, really in the last 25 to 30 years.
- 00:18:41.854 --> 00:18:46.292
- And what this archeology is doing, you have you have coins
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- And you have stone inscriptions and clay seals, artifacts
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- Coming out of the ground.
- 00:18:54.200 --> 00:18:55.435
- And they are authenticating the historicity,
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- Both of the hebrew scriptures and of the christian scriptures.
- 00:18:58.972 --> 00:19:02.842
- It's a it's a really remarkable thing,
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- Because it's almost as if as the world
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- Is becoming more secular,
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- It's almost as if as young people
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- Are learning to speak a certain kind of language of science
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- And reason, god goes, all right, i'm going to i'm
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- Going to come back
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- And i'm going to make my case this time,
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- Not in the thunderous language of genesis one.
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- In the beginning, god created the heavens and the earth.
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- I'm going to speak back through the stones.
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- I'm going to use the language of science and archeology,
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- The language of the modern university,
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- To show you that the events in the bible,
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- You can dispute the theology of it.
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- You can reject the miracles.
- 00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:39.512
- But this is a true account of real people and events
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- That actually happened, you know? so well done.
- 00:19:44.183 --> 00:19:46.386
- You're combining the irrefutable scientific evidence
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- With the truth of the bible.
- 00:19:49.589 --> 00:19:50.790
- In my view, that's an unbeatable combination.
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- By the way,
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- We mentioned seven times the city of david,
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- Jonathan, con ambassador mike huckabee, eric metaxas, myself.
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- We're all in the film, folks,
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- Some faces, voices very well known to tbn viewers.
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- Needless to say, the last question
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- About a minute or so left.
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- This seems to me to be,
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- And we've been saying it throughout a spiritual battle.
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- This is really a battle of good versus evil.
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- Just take us out a bit more elaborate
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- That on a bit more how this is a deeper struggle
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- That is real and by extension, judeo-christian
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- Western civilization is locked in right now.
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- I would put it this way the
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- The devil is not strong enough
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- To dethrone god, and the devil.
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- Therefore, tends to pick
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- The things that god cares about the devil's revenge
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- Just to try to ruin that.
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- So if you look, for example, at the early books of genesis,
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- Why does the serpent pick on adam and eve?
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- What have adam and eve done to the serpent? nothing.
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- But basically the devil says, if i can ruin god's cherished
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- Creation, i will get the last laugh on god.
- 00:20:58.091 --> 00:21:01.661
- The devil picks on the jews for the exact same reason.
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- If i can run them out
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- Of their own ancestral homeland, from the river to the sea,
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- If i can take their holiest site and sort of desecrated
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- By putting an islamic victory arch on top of it.
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- And then if i can target the christians who are the
- 00:21:15.408 --> 00:21:18.478
- I guess the bible suggests
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- That the christians are the spiritual israelites
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- And grafted, as you said, on to the tree,
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- If i can have persecution and hatred and venom toward them.
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- All of which, by the way,
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- I'm not just doing bible speculation, right?
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- We see this in our world now.
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- So the devil is actively at work.
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- And i think the message of the film
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- Is that god's people also need to be actively at work.
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- Jonathan gunn puts it beautifully.
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- He says,
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- Listen, just as just as the jews
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- Have got to put on physical armor
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- Like the ancient israelites, and go and do battle, we
- 00:21:50.143 --> 00:21:53.413
- Christians need to put on some spiritual armor.
- 00:21:53.413 --> 00:21:56.883
- We need to go back to the christianity
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- Of the book of acts, a kind of on fire for jesus christianity.
- 00:21:58.718 --> 00:22:03.389
- That is what our country needs.
- 00:22:03.389 --> 00:22:04.991
- That is what the world needs, and that is what god wants.
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- Amen, dinesh.
- 00:22:08.327 --> 00:22:09.362
- Well said.
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- Great job folks. again, stream it right now.
- 00:22:10.329 --> 00:22:12.532
- The dragon's prophecy film.com a must see dinesh.
- 00:22:12.532 --> 00:22:17.737
- Great job as always, my friend. god bless.
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- We'll see you again soon.
- 00:22:20.006 --> 00:22:21.140
- And coming up after the break,
- 00:22:21.140 --> 00:22:22.375
- My final thoughts on that very prophecy, the dragon's prophecy.
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- That's next. stick around.
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- That's next. stick around.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
- 00:22:36.267 --> 00:22:37.702
- What a great conversation with our good friend dinesh d'souza.
- 00:22:37.702 --> 00:22:40.205
- The dragons prophecy, folks, is an incredible film
- 00:22:40.205 --> 00:22:43.308
- And ultimately a tough subject matter.
- 00:22:43.308 --> 00:22:45.577
- October 7th
- 00:22:45.577 --> 00:22:46.778
- The war against radical islam, but ultimately uplifting. why?
- 00:22:46.778 --> 00:22:50.381
- Think of the gospel of john, chapter one, verse five.
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- The light shining in the darkness
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- And the darkness has not overcome it.
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- Jesus is the light.
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- He will never be overcome by hamas.
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- All of israel's enemies.
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- God almighty is still on the throne.
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- That's the big takeaway.
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- Hey monday, david harris junior is with us.
- 00:23:07.732 --> 00:23:10.969
- That's going to be a great show.
- 00:23:10.969 --> 00:23:12.070
- And if you missed our october
- 00:23:12.070 --> 00:23:13.671
- 7th special,
- 00:23:13.671 --> 00:23:14.572
- The heroes of october 7th and beyond,
- 00:23:14.572 --> 00:23:16.474
- You can catch it right now on tbn.
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- Plus, god bless you. we'll see you soon.
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