Erick Stakelbeck: The Power of Persistent Faith | Stakelbeck Tonight

November 12, 2025 | 25:5

Join Erick Stackelbeck on Stakelbeck Tonight as he delves into the escalating battle between good and evil in America. Unravel the high-octane events at the University of California, Berkeley, where violent clashes erupt between Antifa and a conservative organization. Dig deep into the fight for revival amidst opposition and witness the Department of Homeland Security's crackdown on illegal predators. Explore the heartwarming initiative of Operation Christmas Child by Samaritan's Purse, spreading hope and the gospel to children worldwide. Unveil strategies for building a lasting legacy with renowned authors, culminating in a revelation of gradual breakthroughs transforming lives.

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: The Power of Persistent Faith | Stakelbeck Tonight | November 12, 2025
  • Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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  • I'm erick stackelbeck.
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  • And if revival
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  • Is really stirring in america like i believe it is
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  • The devil is going to do everything he can to stop it.
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  • We saw clearly on monday night
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  • At the university of california, berkeley
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  • As the minions of the evil one were out in full force.
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  • Antifa, a radical left wing terrorist organization,
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  • Violently stormed an event held by turning point usa.
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  • Now, turning
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  • Point is the organization founded by charlie kirk,
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  • Who was murdered by a radical leftist
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  • On a college campus less than two months ago.
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  • Charlie's death and his work at turning point
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  • Have helped spark
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  • The revival that i mentioned, especially among generation z.
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  • And left wing radicals like antifa are not very happy
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  • About it.
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  • Take a look at some of the madness
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  • That unfolded at cal berkeley on monday night.
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  • And. the fascist in
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  • The band of.
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  • It was absolute chaos.
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  • A man was also bloodied by antifa,
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  • As you can see right there, folks, the big takeaway here
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  • Is something i've been saying a lot over the past few months.
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  • Evil is relentless and the fight is only just beginning.
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  • Earlier today, the department of homeland
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  • Security secretary kristi noem announced that 150 illegal
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  • Alien child predators were arrested
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  • And taken off the streets in florida.
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  • Watch.
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  • These individuals should have
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  • Never been in our country to begin with.
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  • The fact that they were sexual deviants and perverts,
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  • And now we've gotten them off of our streets. it's remarkable.
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  • And we need to do more of it.
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  • Folks, it's a long, tough road
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  • To return america to sanity and security.
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  • But it's happening
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  • Despite the best efforts of some very evil forces.
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  • And it takes courage, sacrifice, and all of us
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  • Putting our faith in action.
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  • We see that spirit of service
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  • From the team at samaritan's purse,
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  • Who are carrying that same heart of compassion
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  • To the ends of the earth through operation
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  • Christmas child to delivering not just gifts,
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  • But the gospel to children in need around the world.
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  • Find out how you can help. next.
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  • As the holiday season quickly approaches,
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  • It can be easy to forget that millions of children
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  • Around the globe face uncertainty in their everyday
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  • Lives from poverty, hardship, hunger,
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  • The simple joys of being a kid are often left at the wayside.
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  • But one organization is aiming to change that
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  • Spreading hope and the gospel this holiday season.
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  • Operation christmas child from samaritan's purse
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  • Is stepping up with the help of generous people like you.
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  • From toys, school supplies,
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  • And everyday essentials like toothpaste and hairbrushes.
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  • Children all over the globe are being reminded
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  • That they are loved, seen and most importantly, not forgotten.
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  • Susie graham lynch, senior advisor
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  • And ministry spokesperson for samaritan's purse.
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  • Join me to share more.
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  • Take a look.
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  • It is great to have you with us.
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  • And hey, it's that time of year again.
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  • Christmas right around the corner.
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  • It's hard to believe operation christmas child in full effect.
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  • National collection week cic, november 17th.
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  • Coming up, tell us how someone where
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  • I'm sitting right now in dallas, texas, how they can get a box
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  • Halfway around the world into the hands of a needy child?
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  • How does the whole process work?
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  • Oh, you're right, christmas is right around the corner.
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  • I'm a mom of three young kids, and i'm kind of already
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  • Feeling behind on that never ending to-do list.
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  • But national collection week
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  • For operation christmas child is next week.
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  • And what we do.
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  • We've been packing boxes for over 30 years.
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  • Here at samaritan's purse is you take a box, a shoebox size,
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  • And you pack it with toys,
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  • And i let my kids pick out these toys.
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  • It's become our tradition over the holidays.
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  • Next week, we'll go shopping, and i let them pick out whatever
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  • They want.
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  • They pick out the fun items
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  • They would like to receive for christmas.
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  • And we pack these boxes and we pray over them.
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  • We spend time as a family.
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  • My children pray over each of their box.
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  • And then we have drop-off locations five hours out
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  • From all over the country.
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  • You can search a location near you on our website
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  • And find out an easy drop off location for you.
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  • And these boxes are.
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  • They are delivered to countries all across the country,
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  • All over the world.
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  • And the most important thing about these boxes, though,
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  • You know, our hope is to collect over 12 million of them.
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  • And that's a big number.
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  • And sometimes you can think, well, that's a lot of boxes.
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  • Why does mind matter?
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  • Because every child
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  • That will receive a box will hear the gospel.
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  • They will have the opportunity to know that god loves them.
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  • He hasn't forsaken them,
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  • That jesus loves them enough to die for them.
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  • And then our kids that receive our boxes
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  • Get to go through a 12 week
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  • Discipleship program. we get to follow up with them
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  • And stick with them for 12 weeks.
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  • And if they graduate from the program, they get a bible.
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  • So that is the neat thing. it's just not a one time thing.
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  • Give a gift.
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  • Your gift has a long impact on these kids.
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  • Yeah. and it's amazing.
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  • It's been a family tradition for my family as well.
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  • Every holiday season, operation christmas child
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  • Talk a bit more about the impact.
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  • I mean, you're spreading the gospel.
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  • You're giving kids gifts, which is incredible,
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  • But spreading the gospel over 30 years, as you mentioned.
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  • Talk a bit more about the tangible impact
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  • That operation christmas child has had around the world.
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  • Yeah.
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  • You know, every box, there's not one box is the same.
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  • Everyone is different.
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  • And so when a kid receives a box, there's so many times
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  • That you see a prayer that's been answered.
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  • I know one time i got to deliver a box
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  • That my daughter got to pack,
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  • And she put a, a soccer ball into this little girl's box.
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  • And i said, you want share?
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  • You want to put a soccer ball on this girl's box?
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  • And she said, yes, a soccer ball.
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  • Well, when i delivered it to this little girl,
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  • She came up to me and later and said, thank you so much.
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  • I've wanted my own soccer ball.
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  • I have three brothers
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  • And they won't let me play because i'm a girl.
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  • And so she gets this box
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  • And she knows that this box was meant just for her.
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  • And through that opportunity, you know, these kids get to hear
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  • That god loves them. they get to hear the gospel.
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  • And so many times now we see these kids.
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  • They have gone home
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  • To share the gospel with their families,
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  • Their families come to know the lord.
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  • And now we're seeing church plans
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  • And so many of these communities where our boxes have started.
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  • But i tell so many people too, don't
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  • Forget the impact that the box has on this side of the box.
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  • You said you packed them with your daughters.
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  • I pack them, we have packing parties.
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  • We invite, you know, our friends,
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  • Even if they don't know jesus.
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  • And this is a great opportunity
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  • To share about god on this side.
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  • Maybe those who are watching
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  • The might have grandchildren take your grandchildren
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  • Shopping, tell them why you're doing this,
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  • Or friends in your community or in your neighborhood.
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  • It's a great opportunity on this side of the box,
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  • Not just when we ship them over and deliver them.
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  • That is a key point.
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  • I mean, you are blessing others.
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  • It's a season of giving and you are blessing others.
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  • That's a very key point.
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  • This brings families together right here in america.
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  • Hey, last question.
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  • How can we get involved?
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  • Everyone's listening says, wow,
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  • This is an incredible, incredible program.
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  • How can people get involved?
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  • You can go to our website, samaritan's
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  • Purse.org and click on operation christmas child.
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  • It will kind of show you how to pack a box,
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  • But i encourage you, pack things that are fun.
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  • Wow. items,
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  • Let your kids pick them or your grandchildren pick it out
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  • And you can go on our website, find a location near
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  • You next week as national collection week
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  • And where they can drop off these boxes.
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  • But the most important thing you can put in this box,
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  • My dad, franklin graham, would say, is prayer.
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  • Pray over these boxes where they go.
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  • God already knows the child
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  • That's going to receive this box,
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  • But pray that they know how much god loves them
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  • That he sent his son jesus. amen.
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  • Since he very well said, over 232 million children
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  • Around the world have received boxes at christmas time
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  • Through operation christmas child.
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  • Over the past 30 years or so. sissy.
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  • It's amazing.
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  • Thank you so much for all you're doing.
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  • The entire team and samaritan's purse.
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  • God bless. merry christmas, we'll see you again soon.
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  • Coming up, we break down how to build
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  • A lasting biblical legacy for you and your family.
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  • That's next.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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  • Legacy matters not just wills and wealth, but values, vision
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  • And the kind of family culture that outlives us.
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  • David greene, founder and ceo of hobby lobby,
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  • And bill high, ceo of legacy stone, lay it out
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  • In their great new book, the legacy life.
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  • It's a practical roadmap for building
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  • Multi-generational families who know who they are,
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  • Why they're here, and how we should live.
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  • Take a look,
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  • Guys.
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  • Congrats on the book number one.
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  • And david, we'll start with you.
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  • I think of the legacy life.
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  • And you talk about it having nothing to do
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  • With an estate plan.
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  • What do you mean by that? what is the legacy life?
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  • No, i think the legacy life means
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  • What are you going to leave going forward?
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  • And in our case, i think it's our family.
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  • First, i think we have to think about our family.
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  • And in our case, we have 49 people in our family.
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  • My i have kids and great grandkids.
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  • And and so we have a big family and i think we want them all
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  • To serve the lord.
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  • So i think that's our first thing.
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  • And then how can we bring others to know christ.
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  • And i think that's how we leave a legacy.
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  • That's how i would like to leave a legacy.
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  • Amen.
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  • And bill, in the book you talk about,
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  • Look, in terms of family planning,
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  • We should look ahead not just in seasons,
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  • But generational look ahead,
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  • Maybe several generations, and leave that legacy.
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  • Like david just said, tell us more about that.
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  • Yeah, we we take this for granted in america
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  • Because we tend to think about long term planning is,
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  • Let me plan for retirement
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  • And then go sit on a beach somewhere.
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  • But around the world, and certainly in the scriptures,
  • 00:10:31.923 --> 00:10:34.559
  • The idea is, let's think for generations in the bible,
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  • There are families that we can trace 17 generations in history.
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  • There are families that have lasted 40 generations.
  • 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:46.137
  • And that's the kind of long term thinking
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  • That we want to encourage every family to think about.
  • 00:10:48.372 --> 00:10:51.209
  • Because it's not about just money, it's about the idea
  • 00:10:51.209 --> 00:10:54.378
  • Of the intellectual, social, spiritual and emotional capital
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  • That you want to store up for future generations.
  • 00:10:58.549 --> 00:11:01.119
  • Yeah, bill.
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  • Well said.
  • 00:11:01.652 --> 00:11:02.653
  • And david, look, is it important to have, maybe
  • 00:11:02.653 --> 00:11:05.590
  • A family charter of sorts or a mission statement,
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  • On what your how your family should live,
  • 00:11:10.328 --> 00:11:12.430
  • As you said, living for the lord, of course.
  • 00:11:12.430 --> 00:11:14.565
  • But just the general outlook,
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  • How your family is going to conduct itself.
  • 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:18.970
  • Sure.
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  • Bill helped our
  • 00:11:19.604 --> 00:11:20.671
  • Family come together jan one, myself and my wife
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  • Jan, to my three children and their spouses,
  • 00:11:23.407 --> 00:11:25.977
  • And we came together
  • 00:11:25.977 --> 00:11:27.011
  • To put a mission, vision and values together.
  • 00:11:27.011 --> 00:11:29.947
  • So it's not about hobby lobby so much.
  • 00:11:29.947 --> 00:11:31.883
  • It is what is our mission and our vision and our values.
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  • And that's what we want to guide us.
  • 00:11:35.286 --> 00:11:37.221
  • So once a year we gather together
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  • On the first saturday of every year,
  • 00:11:39.357 --> 00:11:41.292
  • Everybody that's 16 and older and we come together
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  • And this is who we want to be.
  • 00:11:43.995 --> 00:11:45.630
  • And every one of those are, have scriptures assigned to them.
  • 00:11:45.630 --> 00:11:49.767
  • After 1 or 2 did it, we gave it to three
  • 00:11:49.767 --> 00:11:51.803
  • And we said, can you accept this?
  • 00:11:51.803 --> 00:11:53.704
  • So i think it's important for us to come together
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  • And we know what our mission, our vision and our values are.
  • 00:11:55.773 --> 00:11:59.243
  • Hey, bill, talk about it.
  • 00:11:59.243 --> 00:12:00.711
  • Look, a lot of people listening right now
  • 00:12:00.711 --> 00:12:01.946
  • Might say, well, it's too late for me.
  • 00:12:01.946 --> 00:12:03.414
  • My family is frayed.
  • 00:12:03.414 --> 00:12:04.916
  • We've had separation, divorce.
  • 00:12:04.916 --> 00:12:06.951
  • We've had a lot of generational problems.
  • 00:12:06.951 --> 00:12:09.854
  • Can we recover?
  • 00:12:09.854 --> 00:12:11.322
  • Kind of family that's been splintered, been broken.
  • 00:12:11.322 --> 00:12:14.158
  • A can that be recovered?
  • 00:12:14.158 --> 00:12:15.393
  • Can there be a new legacy established in a family?
  • 00:12:15.393 --> 00:12:18.830
  • Yeah, absolutely.
  • 00:12:19.263 --> 00:12:20.198
  • And chapter 11 of the book,
  • 00:12:20.198 --> 00:12:22.099
  • We actually talk
  • 00:12:22.099 --> 00:12:23.334
  • About the broken legacy and we don't appreciate this enough.
  • 00:12:23.334 --> 00:12:26.871
  • But there are so many stories in the bible, whether it's
  • 00:12:26.871 --> 00:12:30.975
  • The singleness of jeremiah or moses and the trouble
  • 00:12:30.975 --> 00:12:35.546
  • That he started out with murder and david and adultery,
  • 00:12:35.546 --> 00:12:39.884
  • It seems very broken.
  • 00:12:39.884 --> 00:12:41.285
  • And you wonder, how can we ever recover?
  • 00:12:41.285 --> 00:12:43.521
  • And yet the scripture remind us time and time again
  • 00:12:43.521 --> 00:12:47.091
  • That our god is a god of redemption and restoration.
  • 00:12:47.091 --> 00:12:51.195
  • That's the drumbeat of scripture,
  • 00:12:51.195 --> 00:12:52.997
  • Redemption and restoration.
  • 00:12:52.997 --> 00:12:54.732
  • So he can take anybody right at this moment in time
  • 00:12:54.732 --> 00:12:57.635
  • And say, if you'll be faithful today, we can set in motion
  • 00:12:57.635 --> 00:13:01.405
  • A powerful legacy for generations to come.
  • 00:13:01.405 --> 00:13:04.408
  • No matter how late you may think you might be today.
  • 00:13:04.408 --> 00:13:07.612
  • Yeah, no family is beyond god's reach.
  • 00:13:07.612 --> 00:13:09.847
  • It's called the legacy life.
  • 00:13:09.847 --> 00:13:11.415
  • You can pick it up right now wherever books are sold.
  • 00:13:11.415 --> 00:13:13.851
  • And david talk
  • 00:13:13.851 --> 00:13:14.886
  • About how that's played into your family,
  • 00:13:14.886 --> 00:13:16.554
  • What you've built at hobby lobby,
  • 00:13:16.554 --> 00:13:18.022
  • Obviously multi-billion dollar business,
  • 00:13:18.022 --> 00:13:20.324
  • But you have done it through a spirit of generosity.
  • 00:13:20.324 --> 00:13:23.728
  • Talk about that quality
  • 00:13:23.728 --> 00:13:25.863
  • And why that's so important in families to have that spirit
  • 00:13:25.863 --> 00:13:28.799
  • Of generosity and a spirit of sharing with others
  • 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.535
  • And sharing not only the gospel, but sharing resources as well.
  • 00:13:31.535 --> 00:13:35.406
  • Yeah, i think it's so important.
  • 00:13:36.040 --> 00:13:37.341
  • And i think that's just what happens to us
  • 00:13:37.341 --> 00:13:39.543
  • When we want to build a family that has, a legacy
  • 00:13:39.543 --> 00:13:43.080
  • And that is what are we do with what we have.
  • 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:45.650
  • And what god has is,
  • 00:13:45.650 --> 00:13:47.084
  • You know,
  • 00:13:47.084 --> 00:13:48.252
  • I think about the scripture that's found in psalms 24
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  • And one that said he owns everything.
  • 00:13:50.821 --> 00:13:53.124
  • So we at hobby lobby do not believe we own it.
  • 00:13:53.124 --> 00:13:56.093
  • We believe god owns it because, not because we say so.
  • 00:13:56.093 --> 00:13:58.930
  • The bible says he owns everything.
  • 00:13:58.930 --> 00:14:00.898
  • So we just want to be good stewards of what god has given
  • 00:14:00.898 --> 00:14:03.901
  • Us. so everybody in our family get only
  • 00:14:03.901 --> 00:14:07.338
  • What and what do you want more than what you learn?
  • 00:14:07.338 --> 00:14:10.341
  • And so everything else we have belongs to god.
  • 00:14:10.341 --> 00:14:12.476
  • And so we know that he belongs, it belongs to him.
  • 00:14:12.476 --> 00:14:15.246
  • And so we want to do everything we can to use what he has
  • 00:14:15.246 --> 00:14:19.083
  • And what he owns. we don't own it.
  • 00:14:19.083 --> 00:14:21.085
  • And to tell as many people about jesus as we possibly can.
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  • Yeah. amen.
  • 00:14:24.722 --> 00:14:26.057
  • And bill, last question.
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  • Look,
  • 00:14:27.124 --> 00:14:28.025
  • How do we prevent the next generation
  • 00:14:28.025 --> 00:14:30.695
  • From getting a sense of entitlement?
  • 00:14:30.695 --> 00:14:33.130
  • Because that can creep in, obviously.
  • 00:14:33.130 --> 00:14:34.732
  • And successful families also, in particular,
  • 00:14:34.732 --> 00:14:37.702
  • How do we prevent that from young people saying, well,
  • 00:14:37.702 --> 00:14:40.438
  • You know what's been handed to me,
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  • I don't need to work for this?
  • 00:14:41.405 --> 00:14:43.507
  • Yeah.
  • 00:14:43.741 --> 00:14:44.809
  • The mindset really has to be that if your vision
  • 00:14:44.809 --> 00:14:47.778
  • Is for a family that can last seven generations,
  • 00:14:47.778 --> 00:14:51.082
  • That you have,
  • 00:14:51.082 --> 00:14:52.149
  • Every generation has to be a steward of the values
  • 00:14:52.149 --> 00:14:55.853
  • And the assets that been placed in their hand,
  • 00:14:55.853 --> 00:14:58.522
  • And then steward it for every generation to come.
  • 00:14:58.522 --> 00:15:01.759
  • If you have the mindset
  • 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:02.793
  • Of a steward versus that of an owner,
  • 00:15:02.793 --> 00:15:05.329
  • Then you can be successful seven generations and beyond.
  • 00:15:05.329 --> 00:15:09.567
  • Bill david, great stuff.
  • 00:15:09.567 --> 00:15:11.302
  • Such wisdom here for every family folks.
  • 00:15:11.302 --> 00:15:13.771
  • The book is called the legacy life
  • 00:15:13.771 --> 00:15:15.773
  • Pick up right now wherever books are sold. david.
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  • Bill. god bless.
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  • Thanks, guys.
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  • We'll see you again soon.
  • 00:15:19.543 --> 00:15:22.046
  • Coming up next, the truth about breakthroughs.
  • 00:15:22.046 --> 00:15:25.683
  • They don't happen in an instant.
  • 00:15:25.683 --> 00:15:27.351
  • They're built one fateful step at a time.
  • 00:15:27.351 --> 00:15:30.921
  • Mark patterson is here to show how god moves gradually.
  • 00:15:30.921 --> 00:15:34.191
  • Then suddenly.
  • 00:15:34.525 --> 00:15:35.993
  • That's next. don't move.
  • 00:15:35.993 --> 00:15:41.007
  • That's next. don't move.
  • 00:15:41.007 --> 00:15:45.067
  • Breakthroughs.
  • 00:15:45.401 --> 00:15:46.468
  • Look overnight until you see the grind behind them.
  • 00:15:46.468 --> 00:15:50.205
  • Welcome back to start.
  • 00:15:50.205 --> 00:15:51.140
  • But tonight
  • 00:15:51.140 --> 00:15:51.974
  • Joining us now is mark patterson, lead
  • 00:15:51.974 --> 00:15:53.709
  • Pastor of national community church in washington, dc
  • 00:15:53.709 --> 00:15:56.979
  • And a new york times bestselling author.
  • 00:15:56.979 --> 00:15:59.314
  • His latest book gradually, then suddenly, is a blueprint
  • 00:15:59.314 --> 00:16:03.986
  • For how god uses small, faithful steps
  • 00:16:03.986 --> 00:16:07.256
  • To set up sudden seismic leaps.
  • 00:16:07.256 --> 00:16:10.325
  • Mark, welcome. great to have you back on the show.
  • 00:16:10.325 --> 00:16:12.461
  • Congrats on the book. i love the swag, by the way.
  • 00:16:12.461 --> 00:16:14.596
  • The gradually then suddenly hoodie.
  • 00:16:14.596 --> 00:16:17.166
  • And hey, you write about long obedience in the book.
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  • Mark.
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  • I think about just the title alone.
  • 00:16:22.171 --> 00:16:23.772
  • I think right away waiting on the lord
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  • In the fruits of waiting on the lord.
  • 00:16:26.041 --> 00:16:27.543
  • Talk about that.
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  • The fruits
  • 00:16:28.310 --> 00:16:29.511
  • Of not getting discouraged and having that long obedience.
  • 00:16:29.511 --> 00:16:32.981
  • And now the breakthrough eventually comes.
  • 00:16:32.981 --> 00:16:35.918
  • Yeah, well, we overestimate what we can do in a year or two.
  • 00:16:35.918 --> 00:16:39.755
  • We underestimate what god can do in ten or 20 or 30.
  • 00:16:39.755 --> 00:16:43.926
  • And so whatever dream you have, i can almost guarantee
  • 00:16:43.926 --> 00:16:47.896
  • It's going to take longer than you like.
  • 00:16:47.896 --> 00:16:49.598
  • It's going to be harder than you hoped for.
  • 00:16:49.598 --> 00:16:52.634
  • But if you keep doing the right thing
  • 00:16:52.634 --> 00:16:54.236
  • Day in and day out,
  • 00:16:54.236 --> 00:16:55.304
  • In my experience, god has a way of showing up
  • 00:16:55.304 --> 00:16:58.407
  • And showing off his faithfulness. you began.
  • 00:16:58.407 --> 00:17:00.943
  • The good work will carry it to completion.
  • 00:17:00.943 --> 00:17:03.612
  • But eric, it's going to happen two ways.
  • 00:17:03.612 --> 00:17:05.547
  • It's going to happen gradually, then suddenly.
  • 00:17:05.547 --> 00:17:08.817
  • Yeah. mark,
  • 00:17:08.817 --> 00:17:10.018
  • We live in an age, obviously, of instant gratification.
  • 00:17:10.018 --> 00:17:12.855
  • What do you tell people?
  • 00:17:13.388 --> 00:17:14.556
  • We want it now, right?
  • 00:17:14.556 --> 00:17:15.824
  • We want the news now on our phones.
  • 00:17:15.824 --> 00:17:17.926
  • What do you tell people who say, wow, that sounds great,
  • 00:17:17.926 --> 00:17:20.529
  • But look, i just don't have the patience.
  • 00:17:20.529 --> 00:17:22.931
  • How do you, help people to not get discouraged?
  • 00:17:22.931 --> 00:17:26.468
  • What do you say about that? in the book?
  • 00:17:26.468 --> 00:17:28.237
  • And staying with the long game, playing the long game.
  • 00:17:28.237 --> 00:17:30.906
  • That long obedience, as you call it in the book.
  • 00:17:30.906 --> 00:17:33.308
  • How do you encourage people to stick with it?
  • 00:17:33.308 --> 00:17:36.678
  • Well,
  • 00:17:36.912 --> 00:17:38.013
  • There are no shortcuts and there are no cheat codes.
  • 00:17:38.013 --> 00:17:40.649
  • No one gets a 20% discount on the 10,000 hour rules.
  • 00:17:40.649 --> 00:17:45.053
  • So the way that god cultivates character,
  • 00:17:45.053 --> 00:17:47.890
  • The way that we cultivate skill sets,
  • 00:17:47.890 --> 00:17:50.626
  • I don't care if we're talking about writing a book or running
  • 00:17:50.626 --> 00:17:54.463
  • A marathon, or overcoming a mental health challenge.
  • 00:17:54.463 --> 00:18:00.068
  • It's going to take time.
  • 00:18:00.068 --> 00:18:01.270
  • It's going to take patience and time.
  • 00:18:01.270 --> 00:18:03.138
  • And and so,
  • 00:18:03.138 --> 00:18:05.374
  • I think we have to realize that with the lord today
  • 00:18:05.374 --> 00:18:08.343
  • Is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
  • 00:18:08.343 --> 00:18:11.480
  • And we have to cultivate that patience to play the long game.
  • 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:16.118
  • Don't don't just aim at 15 minutes of fame.
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  • Let's aim at those words. well done.
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  • Good and faithful servant.
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  • Amen.
  • 00:18:23.058 --> 00:18:24.026
  • Mark, you have biblical examples in the book.
  • 00:18:24.026 --> 00:18:25.360
  • Of course folks, you can pick it up for pre-sale right now.
  • 00:18:25.360 --> 00:18:27.563
  • Mark patterson.com.
  • 00:18:27.563 --> 00:18:28.997
  • Also amazon.com
  • 00:18:28.997 --> 00:18:30.599
  • Wherever books are sold gradually, then suddenly
  • 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:33.235
  • You talk about 20s of insane courage.
  • 00:18:33.235 --> 00:18:38.240
  • Sometimes we need to take risks, right?
  • 00:18:39.007 --> 00:18:40.943
  • Break that down for us a bit.
  • 00:18:40.943 --> 00:18:43.312
  • Yeah, well, that's a fun little line from a movie.
  • 00:18:43.312 --> 00:18:47.049
  • I bought a zoo that some some folks may remember.
  • 00:18:48.050 --> 00:18:51.086
  • Yeah, that, if you read scripture, there you go.
  • 00:18:51.086 --> 00:18:54.690
  • If you read scripture, you know,
  • 00:18:54.690 --> 00:18:58.060
  • Picking up a stone and putting it in your sling
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  • Took about 20s of courage for david.
  • 00:19:01.129 --> 00:19:04.866
  • I think, the priest stepping into the jordan river,
  • 00:19:04.866 --> 00:19:09.671
  • At flood tide, that that takes some courage.
  • 00:19:09.671 --> 00:19:12.975
  • In my own experience.
  • 00:19:13.475 --> 00:19:15.277
  • Like it? it comes down to moments.
  • 00:19:15.277 --> 00:19:18.547
  • When are you going to play it safe,
  • 00:19:18.547 --> 00:19:21.550
  • Or are you going to step out in faith?
  • 00:19:21.550 --> 00:19:23.485
  • And eric's faith is really taking the first step
  • 00:19:23.485 --> 00:19:27.089
  • Before god requires the second step.
  • 00:19:27.089 --> 00:19:29.791
  • And that usually requires a lot of courage.
  • 00:19:29.791 --> 00:19:32.728
  • But that's what god calls us to.
  • 00:19:32.728 --> 00:19:34.796
  • And i think those are the moments
  • 00:19:34.796 --> 00:19:37.199
  • When we look back in our at our life and, and we see god,
  • 00:19:37.199 --> 00:19:42.371
  • Show up in ways that look at what the lord has done.
  • 00:19:42.371 --> 00:19:45.874
  • That's when and where and how
  • 00:19:45.874 --> 00:19:47.276
  • Testimonies usually begin with that 20s of courage.
  • 00:19:47.276 --> 00:19:51.513
  • Yeah, such a great point, mark.
  • 00:19:51.513 --> 00:19:53.015
  • And look, in the waiting process you talk about in the book,
  • 00:19:53.015 --> 00:19:56.318
  • God is refining us, right?
  • 00:19:56.318 --> 00:19:58.120
  • He's sanctifying us. he's refining us.
  • 00:19:58.120 --> 00:20:00.422
  • He's preparing us for that big breakthrough.
  • 00:20:00.422 --> 00:20:03.458
  • What do you say to someone watching
  • 00:20:03.458 --> 00:20:04.893
  • Who might say, you know, my time has passed.
  • 00:20:04.893 --> 00:20:07.596
  • I miss my moment.
  • 00:20:07.596 --> 00:20:08.930
  • I missed my breakthrough.
  • 00:20:08.930 --> 00:20:12.034
  • I would say that he is the god of second chances
  • 00:20:13.001 --> 00:20:16.204
  • And third chances and 100 chances.
  • 00:20:16.204 --> 00:20:19.274
  • That is my testimony.
  • 00:20:19.274 --> 00:20:21.810
  • We've had the joy of pastoring a church now
  • 00:20:21.810 --> 00:20:24.012
  • For 29 years on capitol hill.
  • 00:20:24.012 --> 00:20:25.981
  • But the back story is our first attempt at church.
  • 00:20:25.981 --> 00:20:29.451
  • Planning failed, eric.
  • 00:20:29.451 --> 00:20:31.119
  • And it was embarrassing. it was disorienting.
  • 00:20:31.119 --> 00:20:33.622
  • But i learned a couple of things.
  • 00:20:33.622 --> 00:20:35.757
  • The cure for the fear of failure is not success.
  • 00:20:35.757 --> 00:20:38.760
  • It's failure.
  • 00:20:38.760 --> 00:20:39.695
  • It's small enough doses that you build up
  • 00:20:39.695 --> 00:20:41.263
  • An immunity to it, and you discover that
  • 00:20:41.263 --> 00:20:43.265
  • God is there to pick
  • 00:20:43.265 --> 00:20:44.299
  • You up, dust you off, give you another chance.
  • 00:20:44.299 --> 00:20:47.569
  • And so i would just say to that person who's discouraged,
  • 00:20:47.569 --> 00:20:52.240
  • God has not given up on you that i know for sure.
  • 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.111
  • Don't give up on god.
  • 00:20:56.111 --> 00:20:57.679
  • It's never too little.
  • 00:20:57.679 --> 00:20:59.381
  • It's never too late. come on.
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  • He can take your five loaves and your two fish.
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  • He can turn it into a miracle for 5000 people.
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  • That to our god is.
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  • That's what our god does. amen.
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  • Hey, you've said revival happens gradually.
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  • Then suddenly. look, you're in dc right now.
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  • There's a lot happening in our country right now.
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  • Many believe that revival is stirring in america right now.
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  • How do you see it?
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  • Has that been a gradual thing over the years?
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  • It's now breaking through.
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  • I think we might be in one of those moments.
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  • You know, people look at pentecost
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  • And and acts two does say it happened suddenly, but
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  • They had to climb those stairs to the upper room for ten days.
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  • What?
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  • What if they had given up on day nine?
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  • What if what
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  • If the israelites had stopped circling jericho on day six?
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  • What if what if elijah stopped praying for rain on
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  • After the sixth time dealing?
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  • They would have forfeited the miracle one day, one prayer
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  • Before it happened.
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  • And so i just am a big believer that while we want things
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  • To happen asap, as soon as possible, i believe in allah.
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  • Allah that as long as it takes, you got to keep pressing in,
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  • Praying through, doing the right things
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  • And god will fulfill and keep his promises.
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  • Yeah, mark, we talk about revival.
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  • Look at national community church in dc,
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  • Right on capitol hill. you're doing such great work.
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  • They're reaching generation z where revival
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  • Is really blossoming right now.
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  • Mark, great stuff as always. congrats on the book, folks.
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  • Gradually then suddenly picked up right now.
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  • Presale mark patterson.com amazon.com
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  • Wherever books are sold. mark great job.
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  • God bless my friend. we'll see you again soon.
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  • And coming up after the break, my final thoughts stick around.
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  • And coming up after the break, my final thoughts stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks,
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  • As we wrap up here some great themes tonight.
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  • Operation christmas child
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  • Giving the needy kids around the world.
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  • Number two leaving a legacy for your family.
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  • Number three, waiting on the lord with mark patterson.
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  • I think it's all tied together.
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  • And proverbs chapter 11,
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  • Verse 25, a generous person will prosper.
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  • Whoever refreshes others will be refreshed.
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  • Amen. love that.
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  • Hey, tomorrow night, brandon tatum is here.
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  • Officer tatum.
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  • Also, michael whatley is running for senate in north carolina.
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  • It's going to be a great show.
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  • Until then, god bless you.
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  • We'll see you soon.
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