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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: Special Report - Operation Epic Fury | Stakelbeck Tonight | March 2, 2026
- Welcome to stackelbeck. tonight
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- I'm eric stackelbeck coming to you from washington, d.c. on
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- Day three of operation epic fury. finally, after 47 years
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- Of murder, mayhem and terror, the iranian regime is being
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- Held accountable for its many crimes. the us and israel are
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- Undertaking an historic joint operation that president trump
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- Says is well ahead of schedule. the president said today that
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- Some 49 iranian leaders have been killed since the operation
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- Launched on saturday morning. most importantly, that list
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- Includes iran's supreme leader ayatollah khamenei, the
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- Overlord and architect of the iranian terror empire. he was
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- Killed in an israeli airstrike, along with several other top
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- Iranian officials on saturday. the goal now for this operation,
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- A few really number one, to end iran's nuclear program once and
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- For all. number two, destroy iran's ballistic missile
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- Capabilities. three obliterate iran's navy and its military
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- And terror infrastructure. fourth end iran's support of
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- Terror proxies like hamas and hezbollah. and fifth, empower
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- The iranian people to take to the streets and overthrow this
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- Wicked regime. here was president trump earlier today
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- On why this operation is so necessary for the united states.
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- >> watch an iranian regime armed with long range missiles
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- And nuclear weapons would be an intolerable threat to the
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- Middle east, but also to the american people. our country
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- Itself would be under threat, and it was very nearly under
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- Threat. this was our last, best chance to strike. what we're
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- Doing right now and eliminate the intolerable threats posed
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- By this sick and sinister regime. and they are indeed
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- Sick and sinister.
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- >> now, this operation to take down the world's number one
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- State sponsor of terrorism does not come without a cost for us.
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- Service members have been killed thus far. and as iran's
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- Regime sees that its days may be numbered, it is lashing out
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- In all directions. over the past three days, iran has fired
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- Missiles and drones at us bases and close to a dozen countries,
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- Including several of its arab muslim neighbors. united arab
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- Emirates and bahrain in particular, have come under
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- Heavy fire. saudi arabia also suffered a blow today when its
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- Ras tanura oil refinery, one of the region's largest, was
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- Struck by iranian drones. israel has borne the brunt of
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- The iranian response, with a missile claiming the lives of
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- Nine israelis in beit shemesh, near jerusalem, on sunday. but
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- Again, president trump and prime minister netanyahu knew
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- That there would be a cost here. and they believe it is more
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- Than worth it in order to free the iranian people, the region
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- And the world from iran's regime and its nearly half
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- Century long reign of terror. the results thus far are
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- Stunning. in just 24 hours, the u.s. and israel achieved
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- Complete air superiority over the skies of iran, meaning they
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- Can now focus on hunting down and neutralizing iran's missile
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- Launchers. folks. iran's leadership and military
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- Capabilities are being decimated with lightning speed.
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- Secretary of war pete hegseth said today that operation epic
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- Fury will be as swift and decisive as possible, and will
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- Not be like previous american engagements in the middle east.
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- >> watch to the media outlets and political left screaming
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- Endless wars. stop! this is not iraq. this is not endless. i
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- Was there for both. our generation knows better, and so
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- Does this president. he called the last 20 years of nation
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- Building wars dumb. and he's right. this is the opposite.
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- This operation is a clear, devastating, decisive mission.
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- Destroy the missile threat. destroy the navy. no nukes.
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- >> so what comes next in this historic joint us-israeli
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- Operation? and how does it impact the united states and u.
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- We're joined by the world's number one expert on urban
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- Warfare to break it all down. next.
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- The us and israel are in the middle of an unprecedented
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- Joint operation to neutralize iran's regime. and john spencer
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- Knows both of these militaries and the iranian threat very
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- Well. he's executive director of the urban warfare institute
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- And is known as the world's foremost expert on urban
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- Warfare. john, always great to see you. hey, the iranian
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- Regime now, the islamic revolutionary guards corps in
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- Particular, are saying they are going to shut down the
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- Strategic strait of hormuz. but, john, it seems like it will be
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- Very difficult for them to do that, since the iranian navy
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- Has pretty much been destroyed over the past 48 hours. can you
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- Break that down? that situation right now in the seas, in
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- Particular, the strait of hormuz?
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- >> sure. the centcom or the department of war sent a
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- Message out that all 11, meaning all of the iranian navy
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- Ships are now sitting at the bottom of the gulf of oman. so
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- I don't know what they would plan to do that with. there's
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- Still a threat. i mean, they still have chonda sea strike
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- Capabilities and other assets. i if that's one of their goals,
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- You know, i tell people to, you know, set realistic goals, i
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- Don't think that's going to be a possibility for them. and
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- That will continue to be one of the objectives of operation
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- Epic fury. but they're literally don't have any ships
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- At this moment.
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- >> yeah. john, you study warfare obviously. obviously
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- For a living. what has been your impression so far of
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- Operation epic? epic fury out of the gates here, the us and
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- Israel, incredible operation. two of the world's most
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- Powerful and advanced militaries working side by side.
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- And it seems thus far they're getting incredible results. how
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- Have you seen it?
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- >> absolutely. i mean, historic history changing specifically
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- To the study of war, the opening moments of what was
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- Achieved and the synchronization of israeli
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- Intelligence, u.s. intelligence, israeli planes flying as us
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- Tomahawk missiles and others are landing, all precisely to
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- Eliminate the entire hierarchy of the leadership. again,
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- Although israel, during a 12 day war, eliminated over 30
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- Senior leaders, the head of the military, they actually to be
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- Able to hit the supreme leader. one of the few roadblocks to
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- President trump's and israel's ability to bring peace to the
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- Middle east. what we've seen over the last two years, but
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- Also the president's bold vision for the middle east with
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- The gulf states that iran is attacking all of them. but from
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- A military perspective, it can't be overstated how
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- Difficult this was. it took us, you know, i was a part of the
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- Iraq invasion. it took us nine months to get saddam. it took
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- Us weeks to get his sons the deck of cards to be able to do
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- This, this paralysis of the regime which has been achieved
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- And the accuracy, precision and overwhelming combat power. of
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- Course, it was months in planning with i mean, the
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- United states has allies and then it has israel. what israel
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- Is able to do. and in partnership with the united
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- States, it brings a power that the the world hasn't seen
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- Before. and that's what we're seeing on the ground. and
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- Hopefully it goes quickly. although we we pray for the
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- Friends and families of those of the us service members that
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- Have been killed, the israeli civilians that have been killed
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- Based on iranian counterattack. this is a swift, precise,
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- Constrained operation that is already ahead of schedule.
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- >> yeah. john, what have you made of iran's response thus
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- Far? more than you expected, less than you expected,
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- Obviously, as you just laid out, the us and israel dealt some
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- Pretty heavy knockout blows in the earliest stages of this
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- Campaign. but what do you make of iran's response? and now we
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- See over the past 24 hours hezbollah getting involved,
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- Iran's chief proxy, of course, out of lebanon. does iran have
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- Much left in the tank, so to speak, as the us and israel
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- Continue to pound those iranian assets?
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- >> yeah, it's hard to say without classified information,
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- But it would be. i was surprised at the lack of
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- Response. i'm also surprised surprised at the reckless
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- Behavior of the plans. right. so israel took out 30 senior
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- Leaders during the 12 day war already. as you said earlier,
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- Over 40 senior leaders, the minister of defense, the new
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- Commander of the irgc, who's been in the job for a
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- Couple of months, and anybody else who raises
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- Their hand to be in charge, i thought that they would
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- Have a greater response, but i did not expect them
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- To attack all neighboring countries, basically all the
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- Gulf states, all the way to cyprus, to saudi arabia, to
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- Jordan, hundreds of ballistic missiles and drones that all of
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- These partners and civilian locations, they're sending
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- Drones into luxury hotels, missiles onto airports that
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- Aren't military airports. that surprises me because, you know,
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- We teach strategy and, you know, the ability to achieve your
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- Goals. if their goal was to further isolate themselves and
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- Have the entire world agree that they are a threat by their
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- Actions, of course, we know that, that they're a threat to
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- The world, but to everybody around them, that's what they
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- Have achieved. so i've been surprised at that in and
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- There's still of course, dangerous. and their ability
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- The ballistic missile, despite what israel did to them during
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- The 12 day war. and that's where we're at now with hunting
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- These remaining supplies of ballistic missiles and why
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- That's so important. and their goal, of course, in this
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- Program, and hope nobody ever tells you differently, was to
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- Continue to increase the range and payload of these, to be
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- Able to reach europe, and a goal to hit the united states,
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- Let alone their goal to wipe israel off the face of the map.
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- This is i actually haven't heard it yet, an evil regime.
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- And i truly believe in good and evil. and the setting, the
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- Conditions for this regime to go away and for a new peace to
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- Come should be the goal.
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- >> yeah. john, last question. you mentioned how iran has
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- Lashed out against neighboring arab and muslim countries. do
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- You see these nations? we're talking the saudis, the uae,
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- Even qatar. do you see them maybe kind of getting together
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- And getting involved here and striking back against iran? is
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- That possible? almost. i guess you could say sort of like an
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- Arab nato.
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- >> i think it's very likely we've already seen all these
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- Countries sign it, sign a mutual document saying they're
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- All banded together in defense against the attacks, with saudi
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- Arabia and qatar saying there will be consequences for the
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- Attacks that have already been made. so that sounds to me like
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- Direct action rather than just protecting each other in
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- Defensive architecture. the the joint chief of staff already
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- Said that more us assets are on the way. but i do think, eric,
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- We might see these countries being directly involved rather
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- Than coming together, which is important to condemn. and they
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- Were trying to sit this out, but that's the reckless and
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- Irrational behavior of this islamic regime. i mean, you're
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- Not supposed to interrupt your enemy when he's making the
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- Mistake, but he is banded all of these countries against them.
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- >> yeah, john. great breakdown as always, my friend. folks, he
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- Is a must follow on x, the one and only john spencer. john god
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- Bless. we'll see you again soon. keep up the great work. and we
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- Are joined now by another one of our favorites, our good
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- Friend mark dubowitz, ceo of the foundation for defense of
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- Democracies right here in washington, d.c. mark, wow. we
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- Take this back to october 7th, 2023 to the iranian regime. i
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- Don't think they did envision what would come out of october
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- 7th, one of the worst days in israel's history, of course,
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- But it led eventually to the entire collapse. or at least
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- We're on the brink of the collapse of the entire iranian
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- Terror empire. pretty amazing to see it all unfold over the
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- Past two and a half years.
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- >> eric, you're right. i mean, it's akin to the japanese
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- Attack on pearl harbor, which brought the united states into
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- The war and led to the defeat of not only the japanese empire,
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- But but by the nazis. and i think when yahya sinwar, the
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- Leader of hamas, decided to launch that vicious attack with
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- Iran's help on israel, he never imagined that it would lead to
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- Literally the downfall of the entire axis of misery. or they
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- Call it the axis of resistance that khomeini and qassem
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- Soleimani had built over many years.
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- >> yeah, just amazing to watch and mark, of course, the main
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- Goals president trump laid them out today, of course,
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- Neutralize the nuclear threat, the ballistic missile threat,
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- The support for terror proxies. but the iranian people, mark
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- You in personally and in particular, have advocated the
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- Entire team at ftd, advocated for the iranian people for
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- Years. what do you think the odds are now? president trump
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- Said it today. pete hegseth, secretary rubio, they all said
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- It once again today. they reiterated that now is the time
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- For the iranian people to take their freedom back and get out
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- In the streets. do you see that as being likely as the days go
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- On in, this regime weakens?
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- >> yeah, eric, as you say, for, you know, 22 years we've been
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- Working on the iran issue. iran sanctioned us in 2019 as an
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- Organization, myself and also six of my colleagues been
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- Threatening us. we also have a number of amazing iranian
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- American colleagues who who have been working on this issue
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- And and threatened by the regime. so we have for many
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- Years been calling for the downfall of this regime. and i
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- Think the most important way to do that is to provide maximum
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- Support for the iranian people at the same time that we're
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- Putting maximum pressure on the iranian regime. president trump
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- Has said very clearly that the goal is to destroy their most
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- Deadly capabilities and then open up the space for iranians,
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- A once in a lifetime opportunity to take back their
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- Country.
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- >> yeah. mark, can you break down a bit? you mentioned
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- President trump. i mean, this has gone on through seven
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- Presidencies, essentially the iranian terror empire.
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- President trump is the first to say enough is enough. and to
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- Boldly take it down, to take steps not only to do that, but
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- Partnering with israel. can you just talk about the trump
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- Effect here? i mean, peace through strength works every
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- Time, and he really epitomizes it.
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- >> yeah, eric, i hate to say it, but you're right. in the past,
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- American presidents have backed down from the threat of the
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- Islamic republic, starting with jimmy carter in 1979 when they
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- Took our hostages. and carter's response was weak and feckless
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- And and really, all through democratic and republican
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- Presidents, no one was willing to confront the iranians.
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- Everybody thought they were. ten feet tall, that to confront
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- Them would lead to massive escalation. but indeed, what
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- They did is they had carte blanche to just continue
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- Killing and maiming americans because we didn't stand up to
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- Them. it was actually the israelis who turned the corner
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- On that and who really confronted the islamic republic.
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- And in that war last june, in this 12 day war, the israelis
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- Demonstrated to us as americans that a tiny country of 10
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- Million people with a small air force and a small intelligence
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- Community could run circles around islamic republic. and so
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- When president trump saw that and in the i think the 11th day
- 00:16:04.326 --> 00:16:07.629
- Of that 12 day war said, skies are clear. i'm sending in the
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- B-2 bombers. they're going to destroy iran's most hardened
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- Nuclear facility. it was at that point, i think president
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- Trump realized, if israel can do this, the united states
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- Military can do it even better. and now we're literally flying
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- Jointly with our israeli friends in the most coordinated,
- 00:16:23.278 --> 00:16:26.615
- Highly integrated military operation, i would say, in
- 00:16:26.615 --> 00:16:29.785
- American history, even more than world war two. and the
- 00:16:29.785 --> 00:16:31.953
- British were fighting alongside us as a junior partner. today,
- 00:16:31.953 --> 00:16:35.690
- The israelis are fighting alongside us as an equal
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- Partner.
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- >> yeah, the relationship has never been stronger, much to
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- The chagrin of the tucker carlson's of the world. hey,
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- I've compared that partnership between president trump and
- 00:16:46.134 --> 00:16:49.271
- Bibi. we could compare it to reagan and thatcher bringing
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- Down the soviet empire together. i've compared them also to two
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- A pair of modern day churchills, sadly, in a sea of
- 00:16:56.178 --> 00:16:59.748
- Chamberlain's right now across the western world. you expect i
- 00:16:59.748 --> 00:17:02.684
- Talked earlier with john spencer about the arab and
- 00:17:02.684 --> 00:17:05.087
- Muslim world waking up, perhaps getting involved in this fight
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- To bring down the regime. what about france, germany, britain?
- 00:17:07.489 --> 00:17:12.661
- Britain's been seems to have a foot in both in both places
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- Here. they're going to get involved. they're not going to
- 00:17:16.264 --> 00:17:18.500
- Get involved. what's been your sense of are western allies and
- 00:17:18.500 --> 00:17:21.603
- Their response to this campaign?
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- >> tentative at first, increasingly growing bolder? i
- 00:17:26.108 --> 00:17:29.544
- Think the german chancellor merkel, has been very strong in
- 00:17:29.544 --> 00:17:33.215
- Support of president trump in this mission. the french are
- 00:17:33.215 --> 00:17:38.253
- Waffling, and starmer in the u.k. has been indecisive,
- 00:17:38.253 --> 00:17:42.858
- Tentative, weak. but i think increasingly people are
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- Recognizing that even in europe, that islamic republic of iran
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- Has to be brought to heel. and you even saw the eu
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- Commissioner coming out in strong support of the united
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- States. we saw the canadian prime minister, who's not
- 00:17:57.339 --> 00:18:00.208
- Exactly a badge of courage. he came out in support. and even
- 00:18:00.208 --> 00:18:04.613
- The australian prime minister, a left wing prime minister in,
- 00:18:04.613 --> 00:18:07.482
- In, in, in australia, came out in support. so i think you're
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- Starting to see growing support and our gulf allies after
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- Getting bombed are discovering that they have some resolve as
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- Well.
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- >> yeah. mark, you said the french are waffling. i seem to
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- Have heard that phrase a few other times over the past
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- Century or so. hey, best case scenario here. reza pahlavi, of
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- Course, waiting in the wings here perhaps could be the next
- 00:18:31.173 --> 00:18:34.075
- Leader of iran who knows how this is going to pan out. but
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- Best case scenario here, mark. and looking ahead and look,
- 00:18:36.845 --> 00:18:40.282
- We're still in the midst of this campaign. it's very early.
- 00:18:40.282 --> 00:18:42.984
- President trump said today. it may last for four weeks. who
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- Knows. but looking ahead and you know the opposition in iran
- 00:18:45.954 --> 00:18:49.691
- Very well, best case scenario is looking ahead for what could
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- Be post regime on the ground there.
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- >> well, let me start with the worst case scenario. the worst
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- Case scenario is that ali khamenei's son, mojtaba, takes
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- Over as the supreme leader. he's a bigger psychopath than
- 00:19:02.604 --> 00:19:06.474
- His father. and and we're facing now a clerical regime
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- That is even more dangerous than the previous one. the
- 00:19:10.512 --> 00:19:14.349
- Second worst case scenario, better, but not great, is that
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- The irgc takes over and it's a military dictatorship. maybe
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- There's an opportunity to actually do what president
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- Trump threatened, which is tell the irgc, lay down your weapons,
- 00:19:24.059 --> 00:19:27.362
- Or president trump is going to eliminate you. and certainly
- 00:19:27.362 --> 00:19:30.966
- Between america and israel, they've eliminated literally
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- Hundreds of irgc commanders already with with more to come.
- 00:19:33.935 --> 00:19:37.405
- Well, that gets us to the best case scenario. the best case
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- Scenario is a weakened regime. without the repression
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- Apparatus that was on full display in january, when they
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- Killed 32,000 iranians in two days of horrors. that regime no
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- Longer has the ability to repress its own people. and
- 00:19:52.654 --> 00:19:55.056
- Millions of iranians, not hundreds of thousands, but
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- Millions take to the streets, take back their country. and
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- Then, in a great historical irony, reza pahlavi, who's
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- Currently in paris, flies from france to tehran, comes off a
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- Plane and pronounces a free iran. i say that that's
- 00:20:10.572 --> 00:20:15.377
- Historical irony, because that's exactly what ayatollah
- 00:20:15.377 --> 00:20:18.413
- Khomeini did in 79. he came from france, flew in tehran and
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- Established the brutal islamic republic. it would be delicious
- 00:20:23.818 --> 00:20:27.088
- Irony, historical irony, if apollo was able to recreate the
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- Trip but bring freedom rather than repression.
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- >> wow mark, i love that. and speaking of historical irony,
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- Look, purim, we're on the eve of purim as well. we had an
- 00:20:38.533 --> 00:20:42.137
- Ancient tyrant, haman, who wanted to slaughter the jewish
- 00:20:42.137 --> 00:20:45.774
- People. he met his demise in persia. now the ayatollah
- 00:20:45.774 --> 00:20:48.677
- Khomeini meets his demise in persia 2500 years later, on the
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- Eve of purim. pretty interesting and no coincidence,
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- I don't think. mark dubowitz always great to see you my
- 00:20:54.949 --> 00:20:57.752
- Friend. great breakdown folks. no one does it better than phd.
- 00:20:57.752 --> 00:21:00.255
- Check them out at ph.d. org follow mark on x across social
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- Media. mark. keep it up. god bless my friend. we'll see you
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- Again soon. and i mentioned that it is purim. look that
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- Biblical holiday is now upon us. the jewish people commemorate
- 00:21:10.965 --> 00:21:14.936
- The demise of haman, who sought the demise of the jewish people
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- Across the persian empire. it's outlined in the book of esther.
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- Now khomeini, a modern day genocidal israel hater, much
- 00:21:22.844 --> 00:21:27.282
- Like haman in persia, modern day iran meets his demise as
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- Well. no one knows this better. number one, the wickedness of
- 00:21:31.853 --> 00:21:36.424
- The regime. but number two, how god is moving in that bible
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- Land known as iran. and our good friend doctor hormoz
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- Shariat. he is the founder of iran alive ministries and he
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- Joins us now. doctor shariat, always great to see you. i mean,
- 00:21:49.504 --> 00:21:53.475
- What a moment you have been for years, decades and decades.
- 00:21:53.475 --> 00:21:57.011
- Iran is your home country. you were born in iran. you've been
- 00:21:57.011 --> 00:22:01.082
- Number one advocating for freedom for the iranian people.
- 00:22:01.082 --> 00:22:03.918
- Number two, you've been spreading the gospel in iran.
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- And now we have a situation where it's the world's fastest
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- Growing church, largely underground. doctor shariat, do
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- You believe this is the moment for the iranian people to to
- 00:22:14.596 --> 00:22:18.700
- Not only take a hold of the country, but to spread the
- 00:22:18.700 --> 00:22:21.936
- Gospel throughout the middle east? i think it's possible,
- 00:22:21.936 --> 00:22:25.907
- Yes.
- 00:22:25.907 --> 00:22:26.908
- >> thank you. eric. this is a big step towards the
- 00:22:27.008 --> 00:22:30.211
- Fulfillment of jeremiah 4938. and we know that the end result,
- 00:22:30.211 --> 00:22:35.383
- We know that iran will be a christian nation, and iranians
- 00:22:35.383 --> 00:22:39.587
- Have rejected islam by millions. and now what happened in the
- 00:22:39.587 --> 00:22:45.293
- January the killing of 40,000 people? and we started seeing a
- 00:22:45.293 --> 00:22:49.998
- New crop of people to be harvested. we saw a surge in
- 00:22:49.998 --> 00:22:54.536
- The number of salvations, and we believe it's going to
- 00:22:54.536 --> 00:22:57.305
- Continue to do that. just to give you an example, another
- 00:22:57.305 --> 00:23:01.976
- Layer of people who used to believe in islam just a few
- 00:23:01.976 --> 00:23:05.914
- Months ago after this massacre, they have said, we don't
- 00:23:05.914 --> 00:23:09.451
- Believe in islam anymore. what else is out there? that's why
- 00:23:09.451 --> 00:23:12.520
- We see a surge in the number of salvation. as an example, one
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- Of our leaders in iran was saying, hey, i have my family
- 00:23:15.623 --> 00:23:19.327
- Is very devout muslim and they never wanted to hear me. and
- 00:23:19.327 --> 00:23:24.666
- Actually my uncle six months ago, he told me, i'm going to
- 00:23:24.666 --> 00:23:27.802
- Turn you in to the government because you have become a
- 00:23:27.802 --> 00:23:30.605
- Christian. you have become become the enemy of allah. and
- 00:23:30.605 --> 00:23:33.942
- He said, can you believe it? last night my uncle calls me
- 00:23:33.942 --> 00:23:38.279
- And tells me, tell me about jesus. so there is a spiritual
- 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.217
- Shift. we we are watching history in the making.
- 00:23:42.217 --> 00:23:45.119
- Political history? yes. spiritual history, yes. but
- 00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:48.323
- Also biblical history is in the making. look at jeremiah 49,
- 00:23:48.323 --> 00:23:52.293
- Verses 34, and on exactly what has been happening even the
- 00:23:52.293 --> 00:23:56.931
- Last two days. it's being fulfilled. the jeremiah 4938
- 00:23:56.931 --> 00:24:01.302
- Says, i will remove the lord says, i will remove the head,
- 00:24:01.302 --> 00:24:04.506
- The king and the heads. isn't that what has been happening?
- 00:24:04.506 --> 00:24:08.676
- Khomeini is gone, but many of his head are gone.
- 00:24:08.676 --> 00:24:14.516
- >> yeah. great observation, doctor shariat. look, jeremiah
- 00:24:14.516 --> 00:24:18.520
- 49 we call iran was called persia, but also elam. elam was
- 00:24:18.520 --> 00:24:21.723
- Part of ancient persia. it is specifically referenced in
- 00:24:21.723 --> 00:24:24.559
- Jeremiah 49. and as you just said, many believe that
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- Prophecy predicting the downfall of that wicked regime
- 00:24:27.862 --> 00:24:31.099
- Is happening right now. what are you hearing from on the
- 00:24:31.099 --> 00:24:34.302
- Streets, by the way? i've got great contacts on the ground in
- 00:24:34.302 --> 00:24:37.305
- Iran. of course, we've seen video over the past 48 hours of
- 00:24:37.305 --> 00:24:40.308
- Iranians dancing in the streets celebrating communist demise,
- 00:24:40.308 --> 00:24:43.678
- And the us and israel coming to their aid. what are you hearing
- 00:24:43.678 --> 00:24:47.148
- From on the ground? is there optimism? is there fear? what's
- 00:24:47.148 --> 00:24:50.585
- The state of play on the ground in iran right now among the
- 00:24:50.585 --> 00:24:53.655
- Iranian people?
- 00:24:53.655 --> 00:24:55.590
- >> a lot of rejoicing after so many people were killed and the
- 00:24:55.590 --> 00:24:59.861
- People of iran hopeless and and mourning. that has been the
- 00:24:59.861 --> 00:25:04.966
- Word used for the last two months. but the last two days
- 00:25:04.966 --> 00:25:08.870
- They are rejoicing, they are dancing. and i saw a clip north
- 00:25:08.870 --> 00:25:13.541
- In northern london. i hope you can show that northern london
- 00:25:13.541 --> 00:25:18.079
- There are two neighborhoods, one occupied by iranians, one
- 00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.916
- Occupied by the jews. and last night both of them came to the
- 00:25:21.916 --> 00:25:26.154
- Main square. and you can watch that the jews and the iranians
- 00:25:26.154 --> 00:25:30.391
- Are rejoicing, singing, dancing with israel flag and iranian
- 00:25:30.391 --> 00:25:35.830
- New flag. so this is what's happening. and i can tell you,
- 00:25:35.830 --> 00:25:40.568
- Iran, israel and the us will be close friends very soon. very
- 00:25:40.568 --> 00:25:46.608
- Soon. just wait.
- 00:25:46.608 --> 00:25:48.810
- >> from your lips to god's ears and look, that relationship
- 00:25:48.810 --> 00:25:52.080
- Between iran, persia and israel was always strong in bible
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- Times. and no country is mentioned more than israel
- 00:25:56.050 --> 00:25:58.653
- Other than israel's mentioned the most in the bible. but then
- 00:25:58.653 --> 00:26:01.756
- There's persia. so god has a great plan for that nation.
- 00:26:01.756 --> 00:26:04.659
- Doctor chariot. hey, you're a part of that. we've got about a
- 00:26:04.659 --> 00:26:07.695
- Minute left. can you take us out in a prayer right now for
- 00:26:07.695 --> 00:26:10.798
- The people of iran?
- 00:26:10.798 --> 00:26:12.533
- >> yes. let's pray and i encourage you to go to our
- 00:26:12.533 --> 00:26:15.503
- Website, iran alive, to know what's happening not just in
- 00:26:15.503 --> 00:26:20.508
- The news, but spiritually. what's happening in iran. iran
- 00:26:20.508 --> 00:26:25.179
- Alive.org. but prayer is so powerful we know we are facing.
- 00:26:25.179 --> 00:26:28.349
- We have been facing the spirit of islam and prince of persia
- 00:26:28.349 --> 00:26:31.986
- In daniel ten, and both of them will be defeated first and have
- 00:26:31.986 --> 00:26:35.657
- Been defeated first through our prayers. so in the name of
- 00:26:35.657 --> 00:26:39.227
- Jesus we just. lord, we thank you. what you're doing, even
- 00:26:39.227 --> 00:26:42.797
- Through the works of the president, trump and netanyahu,
- 00:26:42.797 --> 00:26:47.201
- You're fulfilling your prophecies. lord, we thank you.
- 00:26:47.201 --> 00:26:51.139
- But we ask you, lord, grace, grace for the people of iran,
- 00:26:51.139 --> 00:26:54.676
- Grace for the christians in iran, that that at this time
- 00:26:54.676 --> 00:26:57.879
- They will be shining. they will be salt and light to the rest
- 00:26:57.879 --> 00:27:01.082
- Of the country. lord, i thank you, and i pray that you bind
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- The spirit of murder, which is still among among the leaders
- 00:27:05.553 --> 00:27:09.891
- In iran. in jesus name, we bind the spirit of murder and be we
- 00:27:09.891 --> 00:27:17.298
- Proclaim that the captives of iran are being set free by you.
- 00:27:17.298 --> 00:27:21.002
- In jesus name, amen.
- 00:27:21.002 --> 00:27:24.539
- >> amen. doctor, thank you so much for that powerful prayer
- 00:27:24.539 --> 00:27:28.376
- For all you are doing for the iranian people to spread the
- 00:27:28.376 --> 00:27:31.412
- Gospel in iran, folks, again, it's iran alive ministries,
- 00:27:31.412 --> 00:27:34.549
- Doctor. god bless. we'll see you again soon. and well, there
- 00:27:34.549 --> 00:27:38.586
- You have it. we're on the eve of purim, and i believe we have
- 00:27:38.586 --> 00:27:42.256
- Bible times unfolding in the world once again right now. and
- 00:27:42.256 --> 00:27:46.861
- Remember, look, america right now is, i believe, folks
- 00:27:46.861 --> 00:27:49.731
- Engaged in a righteous cause here. the white house today
- 00:27:49.731 --> 00:27:53.701
- Released a long litany of iranian terror attacks against
- 00:27:53.701 --> 00:27:58.372
- Americans dating all the way back to 1979, just 47 years ago,
- 00:27:58.372 --> 00:28:03.778
- When the iranian regime essentially introduced itself
- 00:28:03.778 --> 00:28:07.181
- To the world by seizing the us embassy in tehran. remember,
- 00:28:07.181 --> 00:28:13.187
- 444 days, 52 us hostages brutalized, finally released on
- 00:28:13.187 --> 00:28:18.793
- The very day president reagan came into office. and i don't
- 00:28:18.793 --> 00:28:22.830
- Think that was a coincidence. he was a man who understood and
- 00:28:22.830 --> 00:28:26.434
- Employed peace through strength. the iranian regime did not want
- 00:28:26.434 --> 00:28:30.838
- To cross reagan. and president trump, i think, is a forbearer
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- To that reagan legacy of peace through strength, no doubt. yet
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- The iranian regime seemed to think he was bluffing here. he
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- Laid down clear red lines, and one of them was, stop
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- Slaughtering your own people. look, this regime, at least
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- 32,000 iranians butchered over the past two months alone at
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- The hands of the iranian government. president trump
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- Again and again set down red lines. and key point here,
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- Folks, he tried to negotiate with the very unnegotiable
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- Iranians. he tried to get them to come to the table and agree
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- To a good deal, a sane deal that would see them give up
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- Their nuclear program, ballistic missiles, support for
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- Terror, etc. they did not want to do it, and now they are on
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- The brink of being tossed into the ash heap of history where
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- They belong, along with the world's other notorious tyrants.
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- So continue to pray for us soldiers, the israeli soldiers,
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- God's divine hedge of protection over the iranian
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- People, israel, american bases in the region and for hopefully
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- A swift end to this conflict and a new day for the iranian
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- People. hey, we'll be here all week with you on stackelbeck
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- Tonight. breaking coverage. but right now, stay tuned for
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- Continuing coverage with matt, laurie crouch and our good
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- Friend reza safir of tbn. nejat god is moving. god bless you.
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- Stay tuned for praise. we'll see you again soon.
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