Erick Stakelbeck: Step Boldly Into God’s Calling | Stakelbeck Tonight

July 29, 2025 | 25:5

From wars and rumors of war abroad, to the rise of anti-Christian, "woke" ideology here at home, it’s clear that Americans are living in perilous and unprecedented times. Some would even say that we’re witnessing biblical prophecy unfold in real time. Stakelbeck Tonight will make sense of these stunning developments through a bold and biblical lens.

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: Step Boldly Into God’s Calling | Stakelbeck Tonight | July 29, 2025
  • Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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  • I'm erick stakelbeck and we are living in times
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  • Of massive upheaval morally, spiritually and culturally.
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  • The world as we once knew it has changed dramatically.
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  • And let's face it, there's no going back.
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  • Staying anchored to the past will only keep us
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  • From stepping into the future god is calling us to.
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  • So how do we move forward with boldness
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  • And faith rather than fear and regret?
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  • Christine caine, bestselling author,
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  • International speaker and co-founder of the powerful
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  • Anti-human trafficking organization 821,
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  • Is helping believers do just that in her latest book.
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  • Don't look back.
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  • She brings to light the story of lot's wife
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  • As a cautionary tale for our time, reminding us
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  • Why looking back can cost us everything.
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  • Christine shares
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  • How we can break free from the past and boldly pursue
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  • The purpose god has for our lives.
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  • Here's more.
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  • Christine, always great to see you.
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  • Hey, when we talk about lot's wife,
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  • The average person out there may say, well,
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  • She turned into a pillar of salt.
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  • Then she was never heard from again.
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  • And yet jesus mentions her specifically
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  • In the gospel of luke.
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  • Tell us why remembering lot's
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  • Wife is so important for all of us.
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  • You know, erick, i'm so glad you're asking that.
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  • There's 170 women that are mentioned in the bible.
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  • And do you know there's only one woman
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  • That jesus ever tells us never to forget?
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  • And so the fact that he says, remember
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  • Lot's wife out of 170 women that i mentioned,
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  • We ought to pay attention.
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  • And he actually tells us to do that in the context
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  • Where he's talking about the end of the world.
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  • And he's and, you know, when you look at our world
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  • Today, it seems that things are unraveling.
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  • You know, there are wars and rumors of wars.
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  • There's so much crime
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  • And injustice and instability in every sphere.
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  • There is such a longing in all of us to go.
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  • I wish things would just go back to normal.
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  • And it doesn't matter where i travel.
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  • People are like, i just want things to go back to normal.
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  • I just want to think things to go back to normal.
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  • But jesus was saying in the midst of everything
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  • Falling apart,
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  • He's saying, actually, this is not a
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  • Time to think about going back.
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  • This is a time to think about moving forward.
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  • And the fact is, with lot's wife,
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  • She wanted to go back to what was burning down
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  • Life as she knew it was burning down.
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  • Sodom and gomorrah was burning down.
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  • God was done with it.
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  • The promise of god was in the future.
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  • The purpose of god was in the future.
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  • The provision of god was in the future.
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  • But she was so attached to what she was leaving
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  • That she lost sight to where god was taking her.
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  • And i think as i travel and i see so much angst
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  • In the body of christ,
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  • And people
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  • Are just sort of saying, i wish things would go back to normal.
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  • I'm here to say to you, we need to remember lot's wife.
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  • Like there are things that are done,
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  • But the promise of god it's still in the future.
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  • The provision of god is in the future.
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  • Jesus is drawing us forward into the promise and the purpose
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  • That he has for us.
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  • And these are not days for longing for what was,
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  • But these are days for us.
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  • The church moving forward,
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  • Knowing our identity in christ and being salt and light
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  • In a world, and providing hope where there is no hope.
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  • Providing answers where there are no answers.
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  • Providing peace and stability
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  • In a world that is yearning for it.
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  • So the promise of god is in the future, not in the past.
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  • And i think it's time for us to get moving
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  • And step into the future that jesus has for us.
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  • Christine is so encouraging and what a timely message.
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  • Don't look back is just excellent and again,
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  • Written specifically, i believe for these times.
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  • Although it's appropriate
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  • And fitting in any time and you weave into the book
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  • Your personal stories of change and upheaval.
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  • Look, leaving greece and turkey, your family leaving australia
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  • For the united states. quite a big move there.
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  • Can you talk a bit more
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  • About that personal journey, christine?
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  • Where that concept
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  • Of remembering lot's wife played into your own life?
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  • Well, for sure, i think even in every aspect of my life.
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  • You know, erick, i was left in a hospital,
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  • Unnamed and unwanted, when i was born.
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  • My birth certificate does not have a name on it.
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  • It says child's name.
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  • Literally is typed in the word unnamed number
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  • 2508 of 1966.
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  • So i don't know who
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  • My biological mother or my biological father was.
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  • I don't know whether i was conceived
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  • As a result of a one night stand, or a rape or an affair.
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  • I was the childhood victim of sexual
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  • Abuse for many years in my life,
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  • And the daughter of greek immigrants.
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  • So in many ways,
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  • If you look at it, naturally speaking,
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  • I've got every reason to get stuck in my life
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  • To be a victim in my life, to say,
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  • You know, my history defines my destiny.
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  • I was left unnamed and unwanted, i was abused, i was, you know,
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  • Grew up in very challenging economic circumstances.
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  • I was the daughter of immigrants.
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  • And if i wanted to to lean into that and play into that,
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  • I would never fulfill my purpose.
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  • But because i made a decision to make what jesus did for me
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  • Bigger than what anybody else did to me, to make what jesus
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  • Did for me bigger than what anyone else said about me,
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  • And to understand that the redemptive work of jesus
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  • On the cross was big enough to redeem me from my past,
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  • And that my history didn't need to define my destiny.
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  • But what jesus did for me define my destiny,
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  • And that he had a hope for me and he had a future for me.
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  • I could, over time let go of those things.
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  • The shame, the guilt, the bitterness,
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  • The unforgiveness, the pain, the hurt, the trauma.
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  • I could leave it
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  • At the foot of the cross and step into the future
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  • That jesus had for me.
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  • If i got stuck in the past,
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  • Erick, i would not be doing what god called me to do today.
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  • I wouldn't be, by god's grace, the wife that i am
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  • For almost three decades, two daughters, 23 and 19.
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  • That wouldn't have happened
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  • Because i would have been stuck in the victimhood of my past.
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  • But jesus gives us a future,
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  • And we don't have to keep looking back
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  • To what happened to us to define us.
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  • We look to the cross,
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  • And we look to the future that jesus is drawing us to.
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  • And you know, erick, wouldn't it be just like god
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  • To take an unnamed, unwanted, abused, adopted girl like me
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  • From the back of sydney, australia and say,
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  • You know what, i'm not only going to rescue you,
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  • I am going to use you to open the prison doors
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  • For those that are still bound to those that still need rescue,
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  • And i have to tell you, every time we see a young woman
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  • Or a child rescued out of trafficking or
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  • Or we put a trafficker in jail,
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  • I just think devil, you could stick
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  • That in your pipe and smoke it.
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  • I bet you wish you left me alone.
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  • I feel like joseph
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  • Because his brother genesis chapter 50, verse 20.
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  • And he said you meant this for evil against me,
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  • But god meant it for this very purpose,
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  • To save many people alive.
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  • So, you know, if you keep looking back,
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  • You're going to miss the future that god has for you.
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  • Yeah, folks, the book is called don't look back.
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  • You can pick up right now
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  • At amazon.com wherever books are sold.
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  • And christine,
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  • How much of this do you think is a spiritual battle in that?
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  • Jesus says, look,
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  • If you follow me,
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  • You will live life more abundantly
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  • And the enemy wants to keep you stuck in place.
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  • This seems like a tug of war, a spiritual tug of war
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  • Where the enemy wants to keep
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  • You stuck, keep you living in the past.
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  • And jesus says, no, step into what i have for you right now.
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  • Erick, are you getting me excited?
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  • I could run laps right now, but yes, that's exactly
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  • The crux of it,
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  • Is that jesus came that we might have zoe abundant life
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  • And and the fact is, so many christians settle
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  • For so far, less than all that god has for them.
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  • So what is at stake here is purpose,
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  • And i want to inspire people.
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  • It's been,
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  • You know, for a lot of people it's been like a rough decade.
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  • And i'm saying, come on, it's time for us
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  • To step up and into the purposes of god.
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  • There is so much more ahead.
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  • If you woke up this morning
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  • And there was not a white chalk mark around your body,
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  • It means god still has a plan and god still has a purpose
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  • For your life. it is not over.
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  • No matter what your age of or stage of life is.
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  • There is so much more abundant living to be had.
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  • But i thank god for the redemptive work
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  • Of jesus christ on the cross.
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  • Because it is not too late.
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  • You are not too old.
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  • You are not too far gone.
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  • We can always have more in christ, and i want to inspire
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  • The body of christ to step up and into the more that jesus has
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  • For them.
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  • Powerful words from christine caine.
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  • And what a reminder, folks.
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  • It's never too late and you are not too far gone.
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  • Jesus always has more for us when we surrender
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  • The past and step into his purpose.
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  • Be sure to follow christine
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  • On social media and pick up her book.
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  • Don't look back.
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  • Coming up next, we take a look across the atlantic.
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  • As pastor and evangelist
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  • John joins us to talk about faith in europe,
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  • What god is doing in some unexplored places,
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  • And what it means for the global church.
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  • They'll move.
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  • They'll move.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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  • They said revival in europe was impossible to secular.
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  • Too far gone.
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  • But god is on the move
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  • And it's happening in the most unexpected places.
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  • British evangelist john has spent decades preaching
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  • The gospel across the uk, and he's seeing firsthand
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  • How hearts are turning to jesus across the european continent.
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  • Take a look,
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  • John.
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  • Finally, i've been
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  • Wanting to sit down with you for a long time.
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  • We're finally together, my friend
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  • And we were talking off camera about this move of god
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  • In the world. right now.
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  • I think a lot of it's kind of emanating from america.
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  • The election made a big difference in november,
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  • Of course,
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  • But god is moving right now in europe, america
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  • And beyond, in the middle east.
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  • Tell us more about what you're seeing in your travels.
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  • Absolutely.
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  • Well, erick, thank you so much for having me on the program.
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  • I've been in the ministry now as an evangelist
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  • For 45 years,
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  • And i can honestly say
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  • That we're seeing an awakening like we've never seen before.
  • 00:10:29.086 --> 00:10:34.791
  • And and it's global.
  • 00:10:34.791 --> 00:10:36.593
  • It really is global.
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  • So i'm hugely encouraged.
  • 00:10:39.229 --> 00:10:41.932
  • So you see, perhaps a global revival
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  • And the spirit of god just moving to and fro.
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  • I'm hopeful that what happened to us pray
  • 00:10:48.138 --> 00:10:52.809
  • That we are going to see that globally.
  • 00:10:52.809 --> 00:10:56.213
  • Yeah, god pours out a spirit.
  • 00:10:56.213 --> 00:10:58.348
  • Hey, tell us a bit about your home country.
  • 00:10:58.348 --> 00:11:00.350
  • You live in london. when you're not traveling around the world.
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  • Tough times in many ways for the uk.
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  • I mean a country where the gospel went out for centuries
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  • Now increasingly secular of course, the challenge
  • 00:11:09.092 --> 00:11:12.195
  • Of islam's rise in britain, mass muslim immigration.
  • 00:11:12.195 --> 00:11:15.932
  • Tell us about the state of play,
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  • I guess you would say on the ground in the uk right now
  • 00:11:17.300 --> 00:11:20.003
  • And the state of the gospel in that great country.
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  • Erick, there is so much good new
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  • In england, wales,
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  • Scotland, ireland,
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  • And so many young people
  • 00:11:32.849 --> 00:11:35.986
  • Are coming to faith, are open to jesus.
  • 00:11:35.986 --> 00:11:39.723
  • So many new churches are being planted.
  • 00:11:39.723 --> 00:11:42.559
  • So someone reports oh x number of churches are closed. yes.
  • 00:11:42.559 --> 00:11:47.998
  • But they don't then say, oh, those ten churches close.
  • 00:11:47.998 --> 00:11:52.602
  • But actually that month a hundred new churches
  • 00:11:52.602 --> 00:11:56.273
  • Were planted.
  • 00:11:56.273 --> 00:11:57.207
  • Wow. so so then we give you.
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  • You're encouraging me when it comes to the uk.
  • 00:11:59.142 --> 00:12:01.878
  • Yeah. they only tell half the story.
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  • Yeah i mean we everywhere we go, erick,
  • 00:12:04.080 --> 00:12:08.652
  • We pack out the
  • 00:12:09.019 --> 00:12:09.986
  • Largest venues, the largest auditoriums.
  • 00:12:09.986 --> 00:12:13.990
  • We preach in stadiums.
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  • In the uk.
  • 00:12:16.693 --> 00:12:17.427
  • In the uk, in one day, a
  • 00:12:17.427 --> 00:12:20.430
  • 3654 people receive christ wow.
  • 00:12:20.430 --> 00:12:25.001
  • In one day.
  • 00:12:25.001 --> 00:12:26.236
  • You know
  • 00:12:26.236 --> 00:12:27.838
  • God is on the move.
  • 00:12:27.838 --> 00:12:29.840
  • Yeah, and we are.
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  • I can tell you, john, we are not hearing that in america.
  • 00:12:31.007 --> 00:12:33.810
  • Yeah.
  • 00:12:33.810 --> 00:12:34.978
  • When it comes to the uk, many of us are looking across
  • 00:12:34.978 --> 00:12:36.313
  • The pond and saying, wow, it looks a bit bleak in the uk,
  • 00:12:36.313 --> 00:12:39.049
  • So this is so encouraging.
  • 00:12:39.049 --> 00:12:40.517
  • Hey, speaking of which, your great book,
  • 00:12:40.517 --> 00:12:42.552
  • Your prolific author, of course, heroes of the faith,
  • 00:12:42.552 --> 00:12:46.590
  • To me couldn't be more timely.
  • 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:49.826
  • I think as believers around the world, we need people.
  • 00:12:49.826 --> 00:12:51.962
  • We role models like this who can inspire us, encourage
  • 00:12:51.962 --> 00:12:55.131
  • Us in our faith, especially when we have
  • 00:12:55.131 --> 00:12:56.733
  • Persecution rising in many countries.
  • 00:12:56.733 --> 00:12:59.035
  • Tell us about heroes of the faith
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  • And why you wrote it.
  • 00:13:00.470 --> 00:13:01.371
  • Okay, well, going back to 2020,
  • 00:13:01.371 --> 00:13:05.041
  • When covid
  • 00:13:05.342 --> 00:13:06.343
  • Hit, we had a really big lockdown in england.
  • 00:13:06.343 --> 00:13:10.280
  • And, i wanted to write an article to our constituency,
  • 00:13:10.280 --> 00:13:14.918
  • And i was trying to write an article about covid.
  • 00:13:15.886 --> 00:13:18.922
  • And then halfway through writing the article,
  • 00:13:18.922 --> 00:13:21.258
  • I started to talk to myself, john, are you stupid?
  • 00:13:21.258 --> 00:13:25.195
  • You don't know anything about that. it's.
  • 00:13:25.195 --> 00:13:28.498
  • And then i deleted the article,
  • 00:13:28.498 --> 00:13:30.867
  • And then i just kind of heard in my head
  • 00:13:30.867 --> 00:13:34.571
  • The great cloud of witnesses
  • 00:13:34.571 --> 00:13:37.908
  • Urging us and encouraging us on.
  • 00:13:38.541 --> 00:13:42.579
  • And so i thought, oh, why don't i write
  • 00:13:42.579 --> 00:13:45.081
  • About one of those people?
  • 00:13:45.081 --> 00:13:47.384
  • And i wrote about william wilberforce.
  • 00:13:47.384 --> 00:13:49.819
  • Wow. and then my wife said, well,
  • 00:13:49.819 --> 00:13:51.421
  • Why don't you write one next week?
  • 00:13:51.421 --> 00:13:53.256
  • So i did, and then she said, all right, one the week after.
  • 00:13:53.256 --> 00:13:56.393
  • And because our lockdown was so severe, i just kept going.
  • 00:13:56.393 --> 00:14:00.830
  • So i ended up writing 160
  • 00:14:00.830 --> 00:14:04.167
  • And, and basically
  • 00:14:04.167 --> 00:14:06.536
  • Erick just retelling
  • 00:14:06.536 --> 00:14:09.773
  • The stories of people
  • 00:14:09.773 --> 00:14:13.109
  • From different cultures, different countries who
  • 00:14:13.109 --> 00:14:18.548
  • Encountered jesus
  • 00:14:18.982 --> 00:14:20.884
  • And then went on and did great things for jesus.
  • 00:14:20.884 --> 00:14:24.087
  • One of my favorite quotes
  • 00:14:24.087 --> 00:14:26.523
  • Is from one of those heroes called william carey.
  • 00:14:26.523 --> 00:14:30.126
  • And he was a great missionary to india.
  • 00:14:30.126 --> 00:14:32.896
  • And he his motto was expect
  • 00:14:32.896 --> 00:14:36.866
  • Great things from god, attempt
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  • Great things for god.
  • 00:14:40.470 --> 00:14:43.473
  • And isn't that a beautiful motto?
  • 00:14:43.473 --> 00:14:45.642
  • I love it,
  • 00:14:45.642 --> 00:14:46.876
  • I mean, for us, for you and me and all the tbn listeners. yes.
  • 00:14:46.876 --> 00:14:50.880
  • And so, you know, the heroes of the faith gave me
  • 00:14:50.880 --> 00:14:56.152
  • And many people who've read them, a faith lift.
  • 00:14:56.152 --> 00:14:59.689
  • Yes. and,
  • 00:14:59.990 --> 00:15:01.024
  • You know, when you have that
  • 00:15:01.024 --> 00:15:02.092
  • Little faith lift, it kind of like inspires you.
  • 00:15:02.092 --> 00:15:05.562
  • It does.
  • 00:15:05.562 --> 00:15:06.529
  • And you have heaping on. yeah.
  • 00:15:06.529 --> 00:15:08.098
  • And you have pretty contemporary figures in there.
  • 00:15:08.098 --> 00:15:11.167
  • Some, like dietrich bonhoeffer, live during world war two.
  • 00:15:11.167 --> 00:15:13.903
  • Yeah, it really is.
  • 00:15:13.903 --> 00:15:15.171
  • A faith lift is a great way to describe it.
  • 00:15:15.171 --> 00:15:16.906
  • If the heroes of the faith amazing.
  • 00:15:16.906 --> 00:15:19.976
  • John, this was great.
  • 00:15:19.976 --> 00:15:21.277
  • And folks, you could follow john across social media.
  • 00:15:21.277 --> 00:15:24.180
  • Check out the website.
  • 00:15:24.180 --> 00:15:25.215
  • You see the url there on your screen.
  • 00:15:25.215 --> 00:15:26.783
  • You can follow all of his global travels, his great evangelism.
  • 00:15:26.783 --> 00:15:29.819
  • John. god bless my friend. this is great.
  • 00:15:29.819 --> 00:15:31.488
  • Q erick, thank you very much.
  • 00:15:31.488 --> 00:15:33.690
  • Up next, are angels real?
  • 00:15:34.257 --> 00:15:37.027
  • Can people truly experience the supernatural
  • 00:15:37.027 --> 00:15:40.130
  • Or is it all just imagination and emotion?
  • 00:15:40.130 --> 00:15:43.533
  • Bestselling author and former atheist lee strobel
  • 00:15:43.533 --> 00:15:46.302
  • Joins us to investigate miracles, near-death encounters,
  • 00:15:46.302 --> 00:15:49.806
  • And much more through the lens of evidence and scripture.
  • 00:15:49.806 --> 00:15:53.576
  • That's next.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
  • 00:16:01.318 --> 00:16:03.154
  • Miraculous healings, angelic encounters,
  • 00:16:03.154 --> 00:16:06.490
  • Visions, dreams and near-death experiences.
  • 00:16:06.490 --> 00:16:10.294
  • We hear these stories all the time.
  • 00:16:10.294 --> 00:16:12.630
  • But are they real?
  • 00:16:12.630 --> 00:16:14.365
  • Is the supernatural realm just a myth, or is it more
  • 00:16:14.365 --> 00:16:18.335
  • Active and more biblical than most people realize?
  • 00:16:18.335 --> 00:16:22.173
  • Joining us now
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  • To break it down is award winning
  • 00:16:23.007 --> 00:16:24.141
  • Investigative journalist,
  • 00:16:24.141 --> 00:16:25.643
  • Bestselling author, and former atheist turned bold believer
  • 00:16:25.643 --> 00:16:29.346
  • Lee strobel.
  • 00:16:29.346 --> 00:16:30.514
  • You know him from blockbusters like the case for christ,
  • 00:16:30.514 --> 00:16:33.417
  • And now he's back
  • 00:16:33.417 --> 00:16:34.585
  • With a powerful new book called seeing the supernatural.
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  • It is great to see you.
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  • Hey, the bible is filled with supernatural encounters.
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  • Angelic.
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  • The resurrection, of course, but seems along the way,
  • 00:16:44.328 --> 00:16:47.531
  • Especially in the western church, there's been a deep
  • 00:16:47.531 --> 00:16:50.968
  • Emphasis on the supernatural, even a skepticism of it.
  • 00:16:50.968 --> 00:16:54.672
  • Lee, why is it so weird for every believer
  • 00:16:54.672 --> 00:16:56.574
  • To understand that god operates
  • 00:16:56.574 --> 00:16:58.075
  • Not only in the scene, but also in the unseen?
  • 00:16:58.075 --> 00:17:01.846
  • Well, yeah. thank you for having me on.
  • 00:17:01.846 --> 00:17:03.581
  • You know, there's almost an embarrassment
  • 00:17:03.581 --> 00:17:06.050
  • Among some american christians about the supernatural.
  • 00:17:06.050 --> 00:17:09.220
  • You know, we want to be respected
  • 00:17:09.220 --> 00:17:10.688
  • By our neighbors and seen as normal people.
  • 00:17:10.688 --> 00:17:12.957
  • We're just normal like you.
  • 00:17:12.957 --> 00:17:13.958
  • Except we believe in jesus and we follow jesus.
  • 00:17:13.958 --> 00:17:16.260
  • But you know, you won't find me talking about any weird stuff
  • 00:17:16.260 --> 00:17:18.863
  • Like angels and demons and things like that.
  • 00:17:18.863 --> 00:17:21.365
  • Well, you know what?
  • 00:17:21.365 --> 00:17:22.299
  • Jesus was clearly an exorcist.
  • 00:17:22.299 --> 00:17:24.602
  • That jesus believed in the reality of demons.
  • 00:17:24.602 --> 00:17:27.805
  • He believed in angels and so forth in a supernatural realm.
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  • He'd perform miracles, which were supernatural.
  • 00:17:32.109 --> 00:17:34.745
  • And so i think it's important
  • 00:17:34.745 --> 00:17:35.913
  • For christians who are going to embrace jesus, to do it.
  • 00:17:35.913 --> 00:17:39.450
  • Fully and.
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  • To say, you know,
  • 00:17:40.217 --> 00:17:41.352
  • Because jesus interacted with the supernatural realm,
  • 00:17:41.352 --> 00:17:43.921
  • We ought to be not only aware of it,
  • 00:17:43.921 --> 00:17:45.823
  • But also prepared ourselves to engage with it.
  • 00:17:45.823 --> 00:17:48.893
  • Yeah, angels and demons, they do exist.
  • 00:17:48.893 --> 00:17:51.929
  • Can you talk about the spiritual war that's playing out?
  • 00:17:51.929 --> 00:17:54.865
  • Not before our eyes, but behind the scenes right now.
  • 00:17:54.865 --> 00:17:58.169
  • And you write about this in the book?
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  • I do you know, i have a chapter on the existence of angels
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  • And the existence of, of demons,
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  • And these are very real spiritual beings.
  • 00:18:05.543 --> 00:18:09.580
  • They're not, as powerful, obviously, as god is.
  • 00:18:09.580 --> 00:18:12.750
  • They're created beings.
  • 00:18:12.750 --> 00:18:14.051
  • The, demons, fell from grace before, adam and eve fell.
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  • And so we have lucifer, whose name meant, angel of light
  • 00:18:20.024 --> 00:18:24.728
  • Becoming satan, who is, whose name means adversary.
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  • And we have a number of demons who he commands.
  • 00:18:28.432 --> 00:18:30.734
  • But of course, he's on a short leash with god.
  • 00:18:30.734 --> 00:18:32.836
  • We know what his ultimate fate is going to be.
  • 00:18:32.836 --> 00:18:34.872
  • The two mistakes we make as christians.
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  • One is to overemphasize the demonic
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  • And see a demon behind every bush.
  • 00:18:39.376 --> 00:18:41.545
  • And the other is to pretend
  • 00:18:41.545 --> 00:18:42.980
  • It doesn't exist and pretend like there is no demonic realm.
  • 00:18:42.980 --> 00:18:46.150
  • That's dangerous too, because, satan can hector us.
  • 00:18:46.150 --> 00:18:49.720
  • He can annoy us.
  • 00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:51.488
  • He can frustrate us.
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  • He can try to lure us away.
  • 00:18:52.823 --> 00:18:54.858
  • And, we need to be aware of that.
  • 00:18:54.858 --> 00:18:56.327
  • Put on the full armor of god.
  • 00:18:56.327 --> 00:18:57.628
  • As ephesians said,
  • 00:18:57.628 --> 00:18:58.963
  • And to really understand scripture
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  • So that we can use scripture
  • 00:19:00.798 --> 00:19:01.999
  • To measure what is true and what is not. amen.
  • 00:19:01.999 --> 00:19:04.602
  • Well said.
  • 00:19:04.602 --> 00:19:05.502
  • And look, the book is a big bestseller
  • 00:19:05.502 --> 00:19:07.071
  • And that's for good reason.
  • 00:19:07.071 --> 00:19:08.172
  • It seems there's a hunger for the things
  • 00:19:08.172 --> 00:19:09.907
  • Of the supernatural right now.
  • 00:19:09.907 --> 00:19:11.575
  • Give us some of your favorite stories from the book
  • 00:19:11.575 --> 00:19:14.311
  • On the miracle front.
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  • Sure.
  • 00:19:16.213 --> 00:19:16.614
  • You know,
  • 00:19:16.614 --> 00:19:17.348
  • My background is
  • 00:19:17.348 --> 00:19:18.382
  • In journalism and law, so i tend to be a skeptic.
  • 00:19:18.382 --> 00:19:20.351
  • I'm looking for corroboration
  • 00:19:20.351 --> 00:19:21.685
  • And evidence and facts and logic and so forth.
  • 00:19:21.685 --> 00:19:24.755
  • So i'm not looking for cases about miracles or just things
  • 00:19:24.755 --> 00:19:28.092
  • You read on the internet or hear in a church hallway.
  • 00:19:28.092 --> 00:19:30.761
  • I'm looking for documented
  • 00:19:30.761 --> 00:19:32.062
  • Cases, many of which have been published in.
  • 00:19:32.062 --> 00:19:33.764
  • Peer reviewed medical. journals.
  • 00:19:33.764 --> 00:19:35.633
  • And so one of those is a woman
  • 00:19:35.633 --> 00:19:37.034
  • Who was blind for a dozen years with a incurable condition.
  • 00:19:37.034 --> 00:19:41.171
  • She went to a school for the blind.
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  • She learned how to read braille.
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  • She walked with a white cane and she married a baptist pastor.
  • 00:19:44.642 --> 00:19:48.579
  • And one night they were getting ready
  • 00:19:48.579 --> 00:19:49.647
  • To go to bed and she was in bed.
  • 00:19:49.647 --> 00:19:51.148
  • He comes over and he begins to cry, and
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  • He puts his hand on her shoulder and he begins to pray.
  • 00:19:52.683 --> 00:19:54.918
  • And he says, lord, i know you can heal my wife.
  • 00:19:54.918 --> 00:19:57.187
  • I know you can do it.
  • 00:19:57.187 --> 00:19:58.155
  • And lord, i pray that you do it tonight.
  • 00:19:58.155 --> 00:20:01.058
  • And with that she opened her eyes to perfect eyesight.
  • 00:20:01.058 --> 00:20:04.128
  • Wow. and, she said i was blind when my husband prayed for me,
  • 00:20:04.128 --> 00:20:07.765
  • And i opened my eyes and i could see him for the first time.
  • 00:20:07.765 --> 00:20:11.235
  • I could see everything.
  • 00:20:11.235 --> 00:20:12.603
  • And she said, it's a miracle.
  • 00:20:12.603 --> 00:20:13.871
  • And indeed, it was in her eyesight.
  • 00:20:13.871 --> 00:20:15.773
  • Then remained, last i checked, over 50 years.
  • 00:20:15.773 --> 00:20:19.176
  • It's been fine.
  • 00:20:19.176 --> 00:20:20.277
  • So how do you account for that if it's not a miracle?
  • 00:20:20.277 --> 00:20:24.381
  • We have another case of a woman named barbara. why?
  • 00:20:24.381 --> 00:20:27.084
  • She became friends with,
  • 00:20:27.084 --> 00:20:28.852
  • Who in the 1980s had multiple sclerosis.
  • 00:20:28.852 --> 00:20:31.722
  • She was on her deathbed.
  • 00:20:31.722 --> 00:20:33.457
  • She was curled up like a pretzel.
  • 00:20:33.457 --> 00:20:35.259
  • Her fingertips were touching her wrists.
  • 00:20:35.259 --> 00:20:37.061
  • Her legs. her feet were fully extended.
  • 00:20:37.061 --> 00:20:39.363
  • One lung was collapsed.
  • 00:20:39.363 --> 00:20:40.664
  • One lung was a 50%.
  • 00:20:40.664 --> 00:20:42.099
  • She had a tube in her throat so she could breathe or she lost,
  • 00:20:42.099 --> 00:20:46.103
  • Control of her urination and bowels.
  • 00:20:46.870 --> 00:20:48.806
  • She was blind except for gray shapes and,
  • 00:20:48.806 --> 00:20:52.676
  • 450 people began praying for her.
  • 00:20:53.377 --> 00:20:55.612
  • We know that because they announced to that
  • 00:20:55.612 --> 00:20:57.181
  • Moody radio that she was in hospice, she was dying.
  • 00:20:57.181 --> 00:20:59.650
  • The doctors had given up on her.
  • 00:20:59.650 --> 00:21:01.452
  • And, so we documented 450 people were praying for.
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  • And while her aunt and two of her friends were in her room
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  • In hospice,
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  • Reading her some of the letters from people praying for her,
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  • She hears a voice from the corner of the room
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  • Where nobody was
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  • The voice of god saying, my child, get up and walk,
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  • And she rips the tube out from her throat.
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  • She jumps out of bed.
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  • She said, lee, the first thing i noticed,
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  • My feet were flat in the floor.
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  • My feet hadn't been flat for seven years
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  • And my hands came unstuck and they were open.
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  • And then she said, the third thing i noticed, i could see.
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  • She said, do you think they'd be the first thing i noticed?
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  • The third thing i noticed.
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  • But she was instantly, totally healed.
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  • By the way,
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  • These are cases have been research by medical researchers
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  • And published in, medical journals.
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  • Science confirms it confirms the miraculous,
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  • Confirms the truth of the bible there.
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  • There's so many great stories like this in the book,
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  • Including muslims coming to faith
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  • In jesus through dreams, visions,
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  • Folks, is all in seeing the supernatural.
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  • You can pick it up right now.
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  • It's a bestseller.
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  • Amazon.com wherever books are sold. lee.
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  • Great stuff. keep it up. we'll see you again soon.
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  • God bless.
  • 00:22:11.922 --> 00:22:12.956
  • And coming up after the break, my final thoughts.
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  • They'll move.
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  • They'll move.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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  • As we wrap up, i want to leave you with this.
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  • God is not done.
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  • No matter how dark the headlines get,
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  • No matter how broken the culture may seem.
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  • He is still on the throne and he is still
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  • Writing stories of redemption, healing, and hope.
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  • There's a reason that you're still breathing.
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  • God has a purpose for your life, and he's calling you to move
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  • Forward in faith, not backward in fear or regret.
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  • I'm reminded of isaiah chapter 43 verse 19,
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  • Where god almighty says, behold, i am doing a new thing.
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  • Now it springs forth.
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  • Do you not perceive it?
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  • I will make a way in the wilderness
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  • And rivers in the desert,
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  • Even when the world feels like a wilderness.
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  • God is making a way.
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  • He's not finished with your story or with this nation.
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  • Look ahead. expect miracles.
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  • And remember, god is moving and he is not done with you.
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  • Hey, tomorrow night we're in the kidron valley in jerusalem.
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  • It's going to be good until then.
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  • God bless you and we'll see you soon.
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