From wars and rumors of war abroad, to the rise of anti-Christian, "woke" ideology here at home, it’s clear that Americans are living in perilous and unprecedented times. Some would even say that we’re witnessing biblical prophecy unfold in real time. Stakelbeck Tonight will make sense of these stunning developments through a bold and biblical lens.
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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: The True Cost of Choice | Stakelbeck Tonight | June 27, 2025
- Welcome to stakelbeck tonight.
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- I'm erick stakelbeck and there is a silent genocide
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- Happening around the world right under our noses right now.
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- And it's not caused by drought, war or famine.
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- I'm talking about abortion.
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- And if you think i'm exaggerating, just stop a minute
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- And put these numbers in perspective.
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- From world war one, up until the wars in afghanistan
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- And iraq, some 624,000 americans have lost their lives.
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- Folks, that's horrific.
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- As a nation, we honor our fallen heroes, and rightly so.
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- But what about the 65 million babies that have been
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- Killed by abortion in the united states since 1973?
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- Really? wrap your head around that.
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- 65 million dead.
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- Again, to put it in perspective, this silent genocide
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- Has claimed more than 100 times the amount of those brave
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- Americans killed
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- In all military engagements since world war one.
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- That's an absolutely stunning number.
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- And it's even worse globally.
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- Brace yourself.
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- Over 1.7 billion babies have been aborted worldwide
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- Since 1973, and that number grows by the second.
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- And perhaps even more disturbing is that all of those lives
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- Have been ended by choice, facilitated by an industry
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- That profits off of ending the lives of the unborn.
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- Now, in addition to the babies,
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- The other big victims of this industry are women
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- Who are many times
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- Being lied to and left to pick up the pieces.
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- After suffering the physical, mental
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- And emotional impact of such an unnatural process.
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- Three years ago this week, on ju 24th, 2022
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- Pro-life advocates
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- Cheered at the announcement that the supreme court
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- Had finally overturned roe v wade,
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- The landmark case that legalized abortion nationwide.
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- But the fight over the fate of the unborn has not diminished.
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- If anything, it's only grown more heated.
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- Tonight, we'll introduce you to a pair of women
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- Who bravely chose life in the face of pro-abortion propaganda.
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- I'll also be joined by an ob-gyn
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- Who chose to question the need for abortion on demand.
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- And later, we'll hear
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- What the church can do to change this horrific trend.
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- And it all starts now.
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- It's been called the right to abortion.
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- But how can one person suppose it right
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- Justify terminating the innocent life of another?
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- Yet that gets to the root of the problem.
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- Far too many women have been told that the child
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- They're carrying is not a life and therefore doesn't matter
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- That it's just a clump of cells
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- And that abortion is their only option.
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- Valeria and ariana could have easily taken that road
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- When they were confronted with unexpected pregnancies.
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- But then god stepped in.
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- Take a look.
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- I wasn't married
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- And i was in a really bad relationship with somebody
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- Who did not have emotional discipline at all.
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- And i found myself in that relationship for years.
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- I knew it wouldn't work if i brought a child into that.
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- So i had actually had an abortion in my past
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- Before when i was younger.
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- And it was something
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- That i was taught was, you know, a fix.
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- So i looked up, you know, planned parenthood
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- And i tried to find an answer to what i thought was a problem.
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- And i met my boyfriend at an internship at the church, and
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- We fell into temptation.
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- And we just started kissing.
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- One thing led to another.
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- A month after that, i don't get my period.
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- I don't even remember what my mom said
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- Because i was in so much fear, so much shame.
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- You know, i was just tearing apart.
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- I just go into a corner of the bathroom
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- And i started shaking.
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- So i decide to go ahead and google abortion.
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- Abortion near me.
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- That's what i googled exactly.
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- And the first phone number
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- That pops up, i decide to give it a try.
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- Planned parenthood told me
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- That they could not see me and they had a huge waiting list.
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- So i tried to
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- Find another clinic that would help me get the pill.
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- And so when i found real options,
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- I thought it would be the same experience.
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- I thought they would just check
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- If i was pregnant with the stick and give me the pill
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- And i would go home and have heavy period
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- And thank god i found real options.
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- I sent the address to my boyfriend.
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- They tell him, meet me here.
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- There's a place where they're just going to,
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- You know, do confirmation
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- And make sure that it's actually a pregnancy.
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- So we get there,
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- We get there, and as soon as we enter,
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- I could only see bible verses everywhere.
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- And they said, you know,
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- You were chosen since your mother's womb
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- Or you were called for such a time as this.
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- My boyfriend enters and he was like, where are we?
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- Why were the bible verses everywhere?
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- Because, you know,
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- Being believers, it's like we understood
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- The meaning of what god was doing in that moment.
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- Going into the clinic and having them
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- Be graceful and kind to me and seeing me and educating me
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- About things that i was lied to in the past
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- Was a huge difference and turning point for me.
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- And so i'm looking down at this piece of paper
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- That i'm dead set on having an abortion and i'm like,
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- Wait a minute, am i making a mistake here?
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- Is this is this not a good thing?
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- Before i was told that there wasn't
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- A heartbeat, that was just a clump of cells
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- And that you could just
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- Have a heavy menstrual cycle and be done with it.
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- But that wasn't the case.
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- Luke was there
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- And his heart was beating, and real options showed me that.
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- They told me that we could have an ultrasound
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- And i said, “oh, no, i can't afford that.
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- We don't have insurance.
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- We can like, i can't pay for that at the moment.”
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- And they told me, “oh, no, it's for free.
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- You know, you can do it and you can get it for free.”
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- So i went through to their room, i laid down
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- And at the beginning i was very scared.
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- I didn't want to do it.
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- And there was a part of me that don't even want to hear it
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- Or didn't even want to, like,
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- Just be there and
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- I was able to see it in the screen.
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- And she was like, it's very tiny.
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- It's like, you know, like a little rice.
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- Like the size of a rice, but it's there.
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- There is a heartbeat.
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- And i was just
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- I felt so overwhelmed but in love.
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- And it's like i wanted to instantly hold the baby already.
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- So i come outside with a little bag
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- That had a diaper and like little goodies.
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- And my boyfriend was like, why are you so happy?
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- Why are you smiling so much?
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- And i was like, i'm going to keep it.
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- And he was like, wait, want what just happened?
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- This is actually not just a clump of cells.
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- This is a baby and he's inside of you and he's part of you.
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- And he's not only part of you,
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- But he's part of god's kingdom in god's plan.
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- And god says he knows us
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- Before he even formed us in the womb.
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- When she came out for me and they handed her to me.
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- I can literally close my eyes
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- And see it all over again like it was yesterday.
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- I put her in my chest
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- And that's when it clicked.
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- It clicked.
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- The love that god has for me,
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- It clicked that there's nothing that i could ever do
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- That would make him not love me or love me less.
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- So i look at my little girl
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- And i know that there's nothing that she would ever do
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- That would make me not love her or not want to be her mom.
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- Now that i see god's plan, it's very beautiful
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- Because he takes things that are meant for terrible
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- Things that are meant for bad, and he turns them into good
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- And beautiful.
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- I don't think luke would be here and to this day,
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- If i went to planned parenthood,
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- I don't think that i would have my little best friend.
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- I could still be in addictions and in a toxic relationship.
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- I wouldn't be close to god if i didn't find real
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- Options that day.
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- Incredible.
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- Now, folks, we just heard from two mothers who chose life.
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- But what about a former abortion doctor?
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- Coming up, dr.
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- John bruchalski shares the amazing revelation
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- He experienced
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- That changed his entire understanding of abortion.
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- Don't move.
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- Don't move.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight.
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- What would you do if suddenly everything
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- You thought was true began to crumble?
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- For dr.
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- John bruchalski
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- He was on his way to completing his ob-gyn
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- Medical training when he started having doubts.
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- And through experience, science and prayer, god began
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- To open his eyes to the truth regarding abortion.
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- He told me recently to share his incredible story.
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- Take a look.
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- Dr. bruchalski, thanks so much for joining us.
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- Hey, you started to have doubts
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- In medical school about what you were learning.
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- Take us through your journey a bit.
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- When it comes to abortion, when it comes to the life issue
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- And why you start to kind of
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- Second guess what you were learning
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- And the direction you were heading in.
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- So thank you, aaron.
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- I am i was a well-trained
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- Ob-gyn and i wanted to do everything
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- Within our specialty
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- That liberated women from the chains of their fertility.
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- And abortion on demand was one of those all over time.
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- When you move through abortion on demand, it's
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- Not just first trimester.
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- It becomes the
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- The fetus begins to have bones as it calcified.
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- It begins to have limbs.
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- It begins to have to be
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- Dismembered in a more destructive fashion.
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- So the first issue was my experience of a hardened heart.
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- Secondly,
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- The data was coming in that abortion was associated
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- With breast cancer, with preterm birth and with
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- Mental illness.
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- And lo and behold, we weren't talking about that.
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- It was an easy procedure
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- Very common, it would get rid of your problem
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- You didn█t have to look back.
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- There was no real side effects
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- And then more and more of my peers,
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- Other residents and students,
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- As well as my professors began to challenge me,
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- A neonatologist
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- On a late night where i was saving one life
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- With the same diagnosis that i was a boarding the child.
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- She came in and quickly said, hey, bukowski,
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- Stop treating my patients as tumors.
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- It was that confluence
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- Of experience,
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- Science, medicine and witness
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- That helped me come to my senses.
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- I also know that there were many, many family members
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- And friends who were praying for me to change my way.
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- And i think it all came together, thankfully
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- In my life early in 1989.
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- Yeah, you're doing amazing work
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- At the family center, but also your book to patients.
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- Can you tell us more about that, the two patients
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- And why that is?
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- Often, it seems forgotten in this day and age, sadly.
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- But unpack that for us a bit more.
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- So the paradigm of two patients is the foundation
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- Of the hippocratic oath of medicine.
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- Do no harm.
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- And as an obgyn,
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- You care for two patients,
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- Both the fetus, the unborn child,
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- As well as the woman, the mother.
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- Well, in today's day and age, after the 1960s,
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- Life doesn't begin at fertilization, according
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- To many.
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- It begins whenever the mother says it does.
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- And so two patients continue
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- To remind me, one,
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- The foundation,
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- The paradigm of two patient medicine in ob-gyn.
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- But it also brings me back to that place
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- When i had two patients with the same diagnosis,
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- But i treated them very differently,
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- Not because of science medicine,
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- But because of
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- An atheistic, humanistic approach
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- To what the human person is.
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- Based on your personal experience.
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- What should everyone watching know about abortion?
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- It is brutal
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- And it is violent,
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- Whether because in the pro-life movement we've had division
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- 15 week ban, six week ban,
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- No abortion on demand.
- 00:14:28.134 --> 00:14:30.503
- That's politics.
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- Abortion is a political solution.
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- It's not science.
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- It's not medicine.
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- It's not good for families,
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- For patients, for practitioners.
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- It damages and deforms
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- The art of healing, doing no harm.
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- It tore my heart into and i saw it tear the hearts
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- Of my friends, families, patients
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- Special to our country.
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- John, we can't thank you enough for all that you're doing.
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- Hey, for such a time as this, it has never been more important.
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- God bless my friend.
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- And we'll see you again soon.
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- Keep up the great work.
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- Thank you, erick.
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- From following the path of life affirming medicine
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- To founding an organization
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- To share that approach with others, dr.
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- Bukauskas has been
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- Leading the charge to restore the life saving practices
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- To medical care, particularly for the unborn.
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- And he's not alone in the fight.
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- Many others
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- Have been stepping up as well, including dan steiner.
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- He joins us after the break to share the vision and purpose
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- That drives his organization preborn.
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- Stick around
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- Stick around
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- Welcome back.
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- So what is the real cost of abortion?
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- Well, just take a moment
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- And think about the people in your life right now
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- And how much they mean to you.
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- Now, what if they were gone?
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- What if you never had the chance to know them?
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- Imagine the void that would be left in your life.
- 00:16:16.076 --> 00:16:19.145
- Thousands of women and families are experiencing that right now
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- Because of abortion, and a lot of them only chose it
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- Because they felt like they had no other option.
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- But that's changing.
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- Thanks to the work of dan steiner
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- And his organization, pre-born.
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- I sat down with dan recently to find out more about the heart
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- And vision behind this game changing nonprofit.
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- Dan, thanks so much for joining us.
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- I want to start with a number.
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- Your work at preborn has saved the lives
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- Of 270,000 babies.
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- Absolutely.
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- Not only incredible, but ,dan, miraculous.
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- How did you start with this work?
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- What drew you to saving the unborn?
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- And just look at the fruits over
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- Or close to 300,000 babies lives saved?
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- Yeah, it'll be over 300,000 before the year is out for sure.
- 00:17:08.027 --> 00:17:11.397
- And we are right up front and right out of the box.
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- Give credit to whom credit is due and honor to whom
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- God to whom honor is due, which is the lord jesus christ.
- 00:17:16.336 --> 00:17:19.906
- Got up between 430 and
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- 630 in the morning most days to pray and seek the lord.
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- And during that time, erick, really sense god's broken heart
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- Over this issue.
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- We know in psalm 139
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- That it says that he's intimately involved
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- Knitting these babies together in their mother's womb.
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- This is not only a natural process.
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- Women have the distinctive privilege
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- Of being able to birth human beings out of themselves.
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- That's supernatural.
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- And so the lord's
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- Heart is broken when it says in psalm 139.
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- Also,
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- All their days or
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- Nights are predestined before they've lived any of them.
- 00:17:53.339 --> 00:17:56.075
- And i sense that broken heart in that morning.
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- God's broken heart over this, over the issue of abortion.
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- Everyone, he's knitting them together
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- And then they're violently extracted
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- For convenience purposes out of their mother's womb.
- 00:18:08.388 --> 00:18:11.057
- He sees all of that.
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- He sees the terror and the pain
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- On these babies hearts, and it breaks his heart.
- 00:18:14.194 --> 00:18:17.197
- And as christians and i, you know, and i was
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- There just loving jesus and seeking space.
- 00:18:19.165 --> 00:18:21.201
- And i sense this
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- Burden on god's heart, this brokenness on god's heart.
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- And i said, what can i do?
- 00:18:26.105 --> 00:18:28.575
- And then it's a struggle for a lot of these young ladies.
- 00:18:28.575 --> 00:18:31.277
- I mean, can you talk more about that?
- 00:18:31.277 --> 00:18:33.413
- They have they're making this it's making the wrong choice
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- To have an abortion, of course, but it's a struggle.
- 00:18:36.783 --> 00:18:39.319
- How does pre-born
- 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:40.453
- Help them in that regard, number one and number two.
- 00:18:40.453 --> 00:18:44.490
- Tens of thousands of salvation is in this process.
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- Not only little babies being saved,
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- But the moms literally being saved,
- 00:18:50.263 --> 00:18:52.498
- Say, by the blood of jesus through pre-born.
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- Tell us more about that.
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- Yeah.
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- So in terms of helping them,
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- We're kind of a soup to nuts, kind of a
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- Full profile of operation.
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- If a girl comes in, we give her a pregnancy test,
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- See if she's pregnant, if she is pregnant,
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- Does she want to carry or she wanting to
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- Terminate the pregnancy, abort the baby?
- 00:19:08.081 --> 00:19:09.482
- If she is wanting to abort the baby,
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- Then we put her in front of an ultrasound.
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- She sees her baby on ultrasound, sees that it's her baby.
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- It's not a product of conception
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- In a mass of cells, it's a baby.
- 00:19:17.156 --> 00:19:19.225
- And that motherly instinct, god given motherly instinct,
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- Kicks in and she chooses life.
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- And then we help her with cribs and car seats and maternity
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- Clothes and two years worth of diapers and baby food,
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- Whatever she needs in our clinics
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- For free
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- In the name of our chief executive officer, jesus christ.
- 00:19:33.306 --> 00:19:37.610
- And as you mentioned, it's one of our priorities,
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- Actually our highest priority,
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- To give her an opportunity to know
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- Jesus as her lord and savior.
- 00:19:43.916 --> 00:19:46.085
- And so we are
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- Preborn is the gospel champion of the pro-life movement.
- 00:19:47.854 --> 00:19:51.791
- Abortion and support for abortion
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- Is literally a pillar of the democrat party today.
- 00:19:54.427 --> 00:19:57.297
- Yeah, it's insane. we've got that point.
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- How difficult is it for you?
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- And it's a it's a holy cause.
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- You're doing
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- What you're supposed to be doing,
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- But it's got
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- To be very challenging sometimes to push back
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- Against this pro-abortion onslaught
- 00:20:07.006 --> 00:20:08.775
- And the messaging that's everywhere.
- 00:20:08.775 --> 00:20:10.810
- Scripture talks about truth, stumbling in the streets
- 00:20:10.810 --> 00:20:13.146
- And the moral relativism where we have no if you
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- If you leave the standard of god's word,
- 00:20:17.250 --> 00:20:18.818
- You don't have a yardstick on which to measure
- 00:20:18.818 --> 00:20:20.853
- What's right, what's wrong, what's true, and was false.
- 00:20:20.853 --> 00:20:22.989
- And the word of god is clear.
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- When the foundations are destroyed,
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- What can the righteous do?
- 00:20:26.192 --> 00:20:27.093
- And this is the hour
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- And the day when we find ourselves in that.
- 00:20:28.328 --> 00:20:30.029
- But you know what jesus said and it's true.
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- And we find it every day.
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- Erick, if you tell them the truth,
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- If you show them the truth, sure.
- 00:20:34.300 --> 00:20:35.335
- That girl, her baby on ultrasound, that's truth.
- 00:20:35.335 --> 00:20:38.671
- But if you show her her baby and she gets that best
- 00:20:38.671 --> 00:20:41.207
- Baby picture first baby picture of the best kind,
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- You know,
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- That doubles the likelihood that she's going to choose life.
- 00:20:45.144 --> 00:20:46.646
- And then preborn comes beside her with all that we have.
- 00:20:46.646 --> 00:20:49.182
- And so we people underwrite our ultrasounds
- 00:20:49.182 --> 00:20:52.452
- All across the country, go to preborn that come
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- And underwrite a free ultrasound for these girls.
- 00:20:54.153 --> 00:20:56.656
- And that singular activity
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- Is the most powerful weapon we have in our arsenal to
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- Save lives.
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- And it is truth pictorially.
- 00:21:03.363 --> 00:21:05.665
- We need to be, as christians, a teaching our children
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- The sanctity of life,
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- Be telling our neighbors about the sanctity of life
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- And sharing the gospel of jesus christ.
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- Because i really fear that if we do not,
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- Our hope is not the political process.
- 00:21:18.745 --> 00:21:20.747
- Our hope is the church of jesus christ,
- 00:21:20.747 --> 00:21:22.415
- And that is the building you go to on sunday.
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- That's you and me sharing the gospel with people
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- Built into them.
- 00:21:27.253 --> 00:21:28.488
- Is this god given conscience that they will know what's right
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- If they hear it?
- 00:21:32.458 --> 00:21:33.726
- And so this is why pre-born makes the gospel
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- So much a centrist feature to what we do. yeah.
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- Folks with more than
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- 65 million innocent lives already gone,
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- The church cannot sit on the sidelines on this issue.
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- When we come back, i'll share some final thoughts
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- And some encouragement.
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- Don't move.
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- Don't move.
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- Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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- Wrapping up here.
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- Every time i think about the
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- Abortion issue, i'm reminded of jeremiah chapter one,
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- Verse five, which says, god says, before i formed
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- You in the womb, i knew you before you were born.
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- I set you apart.
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- I appointed you as a prophet to the nations folks.
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- Two things here.
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- Number one, clearly god considers you
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- To be a living person in the womb.
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- And number two, appointed to be a prophet to the nations.
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- How many potential prophets, presidents, kings, explorers,
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- Scientists, teachers
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- Have we lost in the last 51 years because of abortion?
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- As a church, we cannot remain silent folks on this show.
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- We won't.
- 00:22:48.937 --> 00:22:50.038
- So keep it right here for the truth on this issue
- 00:22:50.038 --> 00:22:52.807
- And every issue facing our country
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- In the lead up to the election in november.
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- Hey, folks.
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- Next week, some great shows coming up.
- 00:22:58.213 --> 00:23:00.181
- Pastor jackson lahmeyer is with us talking about
- 00:23:00.181 --> 00:23:02.484
- True happiness and how you can find it
- 00:23:02.484 --> 00:23:04.953
- Hint, it█s jesus.
- 00:23:04.953 --> 00:23:06.221
- As well as pastor larry huch.
- 00:23:06.221 --> 00:23:07.956
- “from junkie, to jerusalem.”
- 00:23:07.956 --> 00:23:09.791
- You will not want to miss that incredible testimony.
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- By the way...
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- Until next week. thanks so much for joining us.
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- God bless you. and we'll see you soon.
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