Erick Stakelbeck: U.S./Iran: Next Steps | Stakelbeck Tonight

April 21, 2026 | 23:32

From wars and rumors of war abroad, to the rise of anti-Christian, "woke" ideology here at home, it's clear that Americans are living in perilous and unprecedented times. Some would even say that we're witnessing biblical prophecy unfold in real time. Stakelbeck Tonight will make sense of these stunning developments through a bold and biblical lens.

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: U.S./Iran: Next Steps | Stakelbeck Tonight | April 21, 2026
  • Welcome to
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  • Stakelbeck tonight i'm erick stakelbeck and breaking news.
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  • Iran's regime is doing what it always does.
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  • It still has not committed to attending talks
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  • With vice president vance and a u.s.
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  • Delegation tomorrow in pakistan, and it's still making
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  • Lots of threats.
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  • One top iranian official just promised to unleash
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  • What he called new cards against the united states
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  • On the battlefield.
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  • This does not sound like a regime
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  • That wants to compromise
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  • On its apocalyptic islamic jihadist mindset.
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  • So do they want to surrender and make a deal,
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  • Or do they want to go meet allah and 72 virgins?
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  • Good luck with that last part, by the way.
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  • Either way, we're about to get iran's answer.
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  • Remember, the 14 day cease fire ends today, and president
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  • Trump says he has no interest in extending it.
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  • In other words, he's got the mad mullahs up against the wall.
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  • Their military and leadership have been smashed.
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  • They've never been weaker.
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  • And the president knows it.
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  • And he wants to press the advantage.
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  • He knows there is a golden opportunity here
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  • To bring down an evil empire
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  • And make america and the world safer.
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  • Just as winston churchill helped bring down the nazi empire
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  • And ronald reagan led the way in collapsing the soviet empire
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  • Like churchill and reagan, trump is a defender
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  • Of judeo-christian western civilization
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  • And a standard bearer for our way of life.
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  • Folks, the similarities between the three men really
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  • Are fascinating.
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  • All three of them were ridiculed by their opponents
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  • Before taking office.
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  • Churchill was just a rabble rouser who would never live down
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  • Britain's loss at the battle of gallipoli in world war one.
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  • Reagan was a lightweight, a hollywood actor
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  • And trump a reality tv star.
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  • They were insulted and doubted.
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  • And yet god raised up all three men on his timing
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  • Because he knew they had the qualities needed to confront
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  • And defeat great evils, to lead the west,
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  • To show moral clarity.
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  • All three,
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  • Of course, were preceded by men who were not up to that task.
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  • Neville chamberlain, jimmy carter joe biden profiles
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  • In weakness, appeasement, but churchill, reagan and trump.
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  • Men of destiny.
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  • Winston churchill spent years on the battlefields
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  • As a journalist in parliament, shaping his worldview.
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  • When the moment came to confront hitler, he was ready.
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  • Ronald reagan left hollywood, gave speeches around
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  • The country, became governor of california, and never stopped
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  • Studying the soviet system and its weaknesses.
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  • When his moment came, he was ready.
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  • And trump, one of america's great business leaders, yes,
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  • But also a student of geopolitics
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  • Who was discussing strategies to bring down
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  • Iran's regime as far back as the 1980s.
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  • And now his moment has arrived.
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  • By the way,
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  • All three men nearly died before completing their assignments.
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  • Churchill was almost killed dozens of times, while
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  • Reagan and trump both survived assassination attempts.
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  • Churchill had fdr.
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  • Reagan had thatcher.
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  • Trump has bibi loyal allies standing shoulder to shoulder
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  • When other would be friends shrink from the fight.
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  • Churchill, reagan and trump three leaders slammed
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  • By their political opponents as alarmists and warmongers.
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  • Yet all three ultimately brought peace through strength.
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  • In my view, they are the three most
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  • Consequential western leaders of the last 100 years.
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  • And trump is still not finished.
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  • Up next, we get the inside story on how the global chess pieces
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  • Are moving on the board in america's favor.
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  • And it all starts now.
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  • The world is on edge.
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  • The u.s.
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  • And israel confronting iran's evil regime, global
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  • Instability, rising, and many people asking
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  • If this is just geopolitics or is there a deeper
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  • Spiritual battle raging beneath the surface?
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  • Joining us now is our good friend
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  • Lance wallnau host of the lance wallnau
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  • Our show and a leading voice on faith, culture
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  • And the spiritual forces shaping world events.
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  • Lance, always great to have you, my friend.
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  • Good to see you again.
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  • Hey, you've been talking a bunch about iran.
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  • Yeah. the connection, of course.
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  • That was ancient persia, the prophetic connections.
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  • Do you see this as deeper than just a geopolitical chess
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  • Match with the iranian regime and obviously war and hopefully
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  • Bringing this regime to its knees?
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  • Is there something deeper happening here, lance,
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  • In the spiritual realm? it has to be.
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  • Consider this.
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  • You're dealing with an ancient civilization that existed
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  • At the time that, babylon plundered
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  • Israel, burned down the temple, took the jews hostage.
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  • Jeremiah prophesied and daniel lived there.
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  • And babylon, esther was in babylon.
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  • And then they pray in according to prophecy, 70 year duration.
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  • Cyrus.
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  • Cyrus comes in and liberates and says, go back and restart.
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  • Build your temple. rebuild your city. yeah.
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  • You can't look at the prophecies of isaiah 120 years
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  • Before that man.
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  • Even existed,
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  • And not think that you and i,
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  • At the end of the age, don't have prophecies
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  • That are being fulfilled now, written by isaiah. yeah.
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  • And i've said since 2016 that the prince of persia
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  • And that spiritual stronghold is the dominant force
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  • Behind terrorism in the middle east.
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  • Hezbollah, hamas. now we kind of understand it better.
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  • And it's and it's going to continue
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  • To export and create a threat through nuclear bombs
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  • That they will use. this is al-qaida.
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  • This is a regime, a clerical regime
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  • That really believes that they produce a world war.
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  • It creates circumstances perfect
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  • For their antichrist to show up, which is their 12th demand.
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  • But just like the body is.
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  • This is their right to their theology.
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  • So how can you not see this?
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  • Then it makes sense to me that it's a religious spirit
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  • Right now,
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  • A muslim religious spirit with the principality behind it.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And of course, the vatican
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  • Is going to get in because you're stirring up.
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  • I look at this all connected.
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  • You got trump getting in hot water,
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  • You know, just putting out memes, trying to show that he's
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  • He's doing more for america than the pope's doing.
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  • And he oversteps has to correct himself.
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  • This is a religious spiritual battle right now.
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  • But it always has been a spiritual battle.
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  • Geopolitical, economic and religious.
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  • Yeah. chess pieces.
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  • Moving on the board, you mentioned king cyrus.
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  • You, of course, have been an expert on trump's
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  • Prophetic meaning and comparisons to cyrus.
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  • You know,
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  • Talk a bit more about that now, the trump effect
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  • And how it's playing out on the world stage.
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  • Well, there's a promise that i'm holding on
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  • To erick for donald trump.
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  • I think we're going.
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  • I'm going to miss him when he's gone.
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  • I'm praying to god he doesn't get kneecapped in the midterms
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  • Because we need him for the full four years.
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  • Yeah.
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  • You're not likely to find anyone like trump coming after that.
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  • That's kind of like a providential vessel
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  • God raised up like a lincoln or a washington, in my opinion.
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  • But the, the word that isaiah said and isaiah 45,
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  • Which is about these cyrus type characters that god raises up.
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  • Notice the conditions in isaiah 45.
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  • 120 years before cyrus, and how many thousands of years
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  • Before trump comes up?
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  • We are the dominant gentile power in the world.
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  • We certainly are prophetically, you know, fulfilling a purpose.
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  • And he said, this about the cyrus types.
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  • He said he will undo the belts of his adversaries,
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  • Which means that in every military engagement
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  • That cyrus has engaged in, that trump is engaged in,
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  • And this is the biggest one, the biggest test.
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  • He has come out successful.
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  • And i don't think is because he's
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  • Playing 3d chess, like everyone says.
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  • I think it's because the prayers of god's people,
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  • The purposes of god for the earth,
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  • Are facilitated
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  • By the presence of this
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  • Man who is redefining things on the chessboard
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  • So that the great commission can be accomplished.
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  • The ultimate goal isn't peace in the middle east per se.
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  • It's creating enough, resistance against satan's agenda
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  • So that the gospel can be preached around the world.
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  • He's resetting the global economic order.
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  • He's literally from venezuela.
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  • First step is venezuela. total energy independence.
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  • We become
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  • An export country right now for even the strait of hormuz.
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  • He's redefining how the energy relates
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  • To the economy of the world.
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  • And the united states
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  • Is opening up ports in the asian pacific area
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  • Because the other nations recognize the threat of china,
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  • And they prefer the shadow of the united states.
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  • And it is not by coincidence,
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  • Everything we're seeing again, trump has a strategy here.
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  • He knows exactly what he's doing.
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  • So does lance wallnau, folks, check him out on the lance
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  • Wallnau show x and across social media.
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  • Coming up after the break, it is america's 250th birthday,
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  • And we're about to rededicate the nation to the lord.
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  • What that means for our nation and for you.
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  • More with lance. after the break. stick around.
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  • More with lance. after the break. stick around.
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  • Welcome back to
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  • Stakelbeck tonight we're talking to our good friend
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  • Lance wallnau host of the lance wallnau show.
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  • Folks, check him out on instagram across social media.
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  • Next month, lance in dc.
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  • The trump administration
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  • Is formally rededicating this nation to god almighty.
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  • Seems to me that's a great thing.
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  • Those who honor me, i will honor.
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  • What's the significance of that?
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  • A first of all, the date itself was an arbitrary.
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  • Trump was told that the first continental congress had called
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  • For prayer and dedication
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  • Of the united states in a first official act.
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  • And it was 250 years ago, on may 17th. wow.
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  • So he said, that's it.
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  • And he introduced it at the prayer breakfast,
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  • Which is where he likes to drop these bombs.
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  • You know, i think we ought
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  • To rededicate the country to god and on the 17th of may.
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  • So, it's it's important
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  • Because when you have a proclamation from a ruler,
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  • In the bible, there's a certain authority that rulers have.
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  • They could decree things and open up the gate of hell.
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  • They can decree things and actually open up
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  • An authorization for something else.
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  • And in this case, what we have is the president
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  • Literally reading.
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  • Now he just read a chapter from the bible.
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  • And if my people who are called by my name,
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  • He's reading that called from solomon to the nation,
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  • And he's doing everything he understands to do
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  • To create that, that opening for a spiritual renaissance
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  • Or an awakening in america, the challenges,
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  • We can't just treat it as a 250th fireworks celebration,
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  • Because i don't want this to be the bookend of america's
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  • Greatness was from here to here, and then it declined.
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  • We have to figure, and this is the church's battle.
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  • We have got to show up in a different way.
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  • And in the battle of public persuasion, however it's done.
  • 00:11:19.160 --> 00:11:23.664
  • We need to move the needle in america
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  • So that america can make the tough decisions it has to make.
  • 00:11:26.367 --> 00:11:29.937
  • Yeah. yeah. the window is open right now.
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  • We pray that it's open for a long, long time.
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  • But as you said, we need to strike
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  • While the iron is hot.
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  • As ambassadors for christ.
  • 00:11:36.644 --> 00:11:37.879
  • Speaking of which, preserving our way of life.
  • 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:39.747
  • Lance open borders.
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  • The people we let into our nation.
  • 00:11:42.216 --> 00:11:43.785
  • Chip roy, texas congressman,
  • 00:11:43.785 --> 00:11:45.453
  • Introduced legislation this morning
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  • Called the mamdani act, named
  • 00:11:47.021 --> 00:11:49.223
  • After new york city's islamo communist mayor zoran mamdani.
  • 00:11:49.223 --> 00:11:53.027
  • And this act seeks to block anyone coming or trying
  • 00:11:53.027 --> 00:11:56.631
  • To come into our country based on their ideology,
  • 00:11:56.631 --> 00:11:59.267
  • Specifically socialism, communism, radical islamists
  • 00:11:59.267 --> 00:12:02.637
  • Blocking people like that from coming into our country
  • 00:12:02.637 --> 00:12:05.706
  • Seems pretty significant, and i pray that it passes
  • 00:12:05.706 --> 00:12:08.409
  • And it seems very necessary at this point in time.
  • 00:12:08.409 --> 00:12:11.145
  • Charlie kirk's last tweet, or the day
  • 00:12:11.145 --> 00:12:14.482
  • Before he was assassinated.
  • 00:12:14.482 --> 00:12:16.284
  • Martyred? yeah.
  • 00:12:16.284 --> 00:12:17.685
  • He said the democrat party is going to use
  • 00:12:17.685 --> 00:12:21.522
  • The subject of islam to slit the throat of the united states.
  • 00:12:21.522 --> 00:12:25.126
  • Yeah. you talk about
  • 00:12:25.126 --> 00:12:27.261
  • A word that is incendiary but potent.
  • 00:12:27.995 --> 00:12:31.666
  • He's saying that modern politics wants to team up with islam
  • 00:12:31.666 --> 00:12:36.370
  • In order to destabilize and attack everything
  • 00:12:36.370 --> 00:12:39.507
  • In their ideological opposition, meaning
  • 00:12:39.507 --> 00:12:42.476
  • Republicans, conservatives, christians,
  • 00:12:42.476 --> 00:12:44.779
  • Even if it means joining hands with islam with an agenda
  • 00:12:44.779 --> 00:12:49.517
  • That is totally incompatible with the founding
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  • Of the united states, which is the problem.
  • 00:12:51.719 --> 00:12:53.321
  • The problem isn't being a muslim
  • 00:12:53.321 --> 00:12:54.889
  • Or being a buddhist or being a hindu.
  • 00:12:54.889 --> 00:12:56.490
  • It's when you come to the united states with an ideology
  • 00:12:56.490 --> 00:12:59.360
  • That is intent on subverting the host that you've come to.
  • 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:03.197
  • You're not coming to contribute. you're coming to invade. yeah.
  • 00:13:03.197 --> 00:13:06.000
  • And that's a different type of a subset.
  • 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.935
  • That's a different type of an invitation. yeah.
  • 00:13:07.935 --> 00:13:09.971
  • And the left is embracing this.
  • 00:13:09.971 --> 00:13:11.205
  • You've called it lance the red green alliance
  • 00:13:11.205 --> 00:13:13.241
  • To an unholy alliance
  • 00:13:13.241 --> 00:13:14.775
  • With the shared goal of destroying
  • 00:13:14.775 --> 00:13:16.444
  • Judeo-christian western civilization.
  • 00:13:16.444 --> 00:13:18.679
  • Speaking of the west in the western hemisphere,
  • 00:13:18.679 --> 00:13:20.615
  • Venezuela, you've been talking a bunch about
  • 00:13:20.615 --> 00:13:23.751
  • And maybe people have been paying much attention
  • 00:13:23.751 --> 00:13:25.486
  • Since nicolas maduro,
  • 00:13:25.486 --> 00:13:26.687
  • The dictator, was apprehended at the beginning of this year.
  • 00:13:26.687 --> 00:13:29.023
  • But what's unfolding in venezuela
  • 00:13:29.023 --> 00:13:30.524
  • Right now, some changes there, right? yeah.
  • 00:13:30.524 --> 00:13:32.293
  • And you know, what's interesting about venezuela
  • 00:13:32.293 --> 00:13:35.563
  • Is that, trump has succeeded
  • 00:13:35.563 --> 00:13:40.034
  • In redefining our relationship with venezuela.
  • 00:13:40.034 --> 00:13:43.905
  • Yeah.
  • 00:13:43.905 --> 00:13:44.705
  • But, you know, the challenges, the,
  • 00:13:44.705 --> 00:13:47.108
  • The gangsters that were running the place are still there.
  • 00:13:47.108 --> 00:13:50.811
  • It's just that, you know, they got they got the trump
  • 00:13:50.811 --> 00:13:53.915
  • Factor now saying, you know, you guys behave yourself.
  • 00:13:53.915 --> 00:13:56.350
  • We're doing business.
  • 00:13:56.350 --> 00:13:57.852
  • Now marco rubio has the challenge.
  • 00:13:57.852 --> 00:13:59.720
  • Nobody's talking about how to have free and fair elections
  • 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.823
  • Because you've got a mobilized just similar to iran.
  • 00:14:02.823 --> 00:14:06.661
  • You've got a regime that reluctantly is
  • 00:14:06.661 --> 00:14:09.263
  • Gritting their teeth and saying, let trump have his way.
  • 00:14:09.263 --> 00:14:11.499
  • We got no choice.
  • 00:14:11.499 --> 00:14:13.034
  • But they don't
  • 00:14:13.034 --> 00:14:13.968
  • Necessarily want free and fair elections
  • 00:14:13.968 --> 00:14:15.403
  • Because they've got a corrupt system with cartels.
  • 00:14:15.403 --> 00:14:18.239
  • This is a classic populist democracy runs into the machine.
  • 00:14:18.239 --> 00:14:22.310
  • I wonder if the united states has enough presence
  • 00:14:22.310 --> 00:14:24.979
  • And influence over the process to see the populist, democratic
  • 00:14:24.979 --> 00:14:29.050
  • Yearnings of the people win in an electoral, election.
  • 00:14:29.050 --> 00:14:33.654
  • Always great, my friend.
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  • Professor jonathan turley with a great breakdown.
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  • We're talking america's two 50th.
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  • How do we preserve our nation?
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  • Great insights from a fox news legal analyst after the break.
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  • Don't move.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, as america celebrates
  • 00:15:04.287 --> 00:15:07.690
  • Its 250th birthday, and with radical forces on the march,
  • 00:15:07.690 --> 00:15:12.729
  • The fight to preserve our values and ideals is more necessary
  • 00:15:12.729 --> 00:15:16.833
  • Now than ever.
  • 00:15:16.833 --> 00:15:18.267
  • Professor jonathan turley lays out how we can do exactly that.
  • 00:15:18.267 --> 00:15:21.637
  • In his latest new york times bestseller, rage and the
  • 00:15:21.637 --> 00:15:24.774
  • Republic the unfinished story of the american revolution.
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  • Professor turley is a fox news legal analyst and a professor at
  • 00:15:28.711 --> 00:15:31.981
  • George washington university law school, and he joins us now.
  • 00:15:31.981 --> 00:15:35.184
  • Professor, great to see you.
  • 00:15:35.184 --> 00:15:36.919
  • Hey, you lay out in the book.
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  • Yes, you lay out in the book that the american revolution
  • 00:15:38.287 --> 00:15:41.524
  • Is entirely unique, especially when compared with,
  • 00:15:41.524 --> 00:15:44.460
  • Say, the french revolution, which came a short time after.
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  • Professor, remind our viewers why this american project
  • 00:15:47.497 --> 00:15:51.167
  • And the founding of our nation
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  • Is so different from any other, really, that came before it.
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  • Well, thank you, erick.
  • 00:15:57.240 --> 00:15:58.441
  • You know, this book is about revolutions, how they begin
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  • And more importantly, how they end.
  • 00:16:01.911 --> 00:16:03.813
  • Most revolutions do not end well,
  • 00:16:03.813 --> 00:16:06.516
  • And the first half of the book looks backwards
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  • As to why the united states revolution.
  • 00:16:09.485 --> 00:16:13.289
  • The american revolution, became
  • 00:16:13.289 --> 00:16:15.992
  • Such a successful model for democracies.
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  • And the french revolution, which was its contemporary
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  • Revolution, ended up in a blood soaked tyranny.
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  • And i tried to isolate what were the elements
  • 00:16:26.502 --> 00:16:28.938
  • That made our republic so unique?
  • 00:16:28.938 --> 00:16:32.675
  • What people don't realize is that the american revolution
  • 00:16:32.675 --> 00:16:36.846
  • Was the first enlightenment.
  • 00:16:36.846 --> 00:16:38.648
  • Revolution.
  • 00:16:38.648 --> 00:16:39.849
  • And it it was a fascination of people around the world.
  • 00:16:39.849 --> 00:16:44.620
  • You know, there was a frenchman whose name was creve core,
  • 00:16:44.620 --> 00:16:46.856
  • Who wrote a book about us
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  • At the time, and he captured that fascination.
  • 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:52.328
  • And he in the book he asked,
  • 00:16:52.328 --> 00:16:54.697
  • What then is this america?
  • 00:16:55.264 --> 00:16:57.934
  • It was a profound question.
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  • And it captured this, this fascination
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  • People had with us because we were a people
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  • That had nothing in common with each other.
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  • We all ended up here.
  • 00:17:07.143 --> 00:17:09.178
  • And yet we came together to create the first enlightenment.
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  • Revolution based on the idea,
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  • The value, the belief
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  • That our rights come from god, not from the government.
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  • That they are rights that belong to us as human beings
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  • And make us completely human.
  • 00:17:26.395 --> 00:17:29.232
  • That had never happened before.
  • 00:17:29.232 --> 00:17:31.767
  • And so the fascination revealed by creve core
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  • Was shared by many.
  • 00:17:35.037 --> 00:17:37.073
  • And what happened after that is a great american story
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  • Filled with great personalities, flawed and triumphant.
  • 00:17:42.512 --> 00:17:47.316
  • But they're part of the fabric of who we are.
  • 00:17:47.316 --> 00:17:50.553
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:50.786 --> 00:17:51.954
  • And you detail some of those great stories in the book,
  • 00:17:51.954 --> 00:17:53.256
  • The lives of the founding fathers.
  • 00:17:53.256 --> 00:17:54.957
  • It's fascinating, fascinating stuff.
  • 00:17:54.957 --> 00:17:56.559
  • Professor, you're a great legal counsel,
  • 00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.060
  • Of course, but also a student of history.
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  • And you mentioned the french revolution.
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  • When we talk about threats to democracy and to our way of life
  • 00:18:02.231 --> 00:18:06.035
  • Today, 250 years in, i think of the woke movement
  • 00:18:06.035 --> 00:18:10.306
  • Or their kind of some french revolution vibes.
  • 00:18:10.306 --> 00:18:13.242
  • There when you observe the woke movement
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  • And the radical left and their march across the institutions.
  • 00:18:15.645 --> 00:18:19.515
  • There are, erick.
  • 00:18:19.949 --> 00:18:20.883
  • And, you know, the second half of this book
  • 00:18:20.883 --> 00:18:22.585
  • Looks forward and asks the question, can this
  • 00:18:22.585 --> 00:18:25.655
  • American republic survive the 21st century?
  • 00:18:25.655 --> 00:18:28.891
  • Can it survive us?
  • 00:18:29.325 --> 00:18:31.527
  • And that is a tough question.
  • 00:18:31.527 --> 00:18:33.095
  • We can't google can't be victims to the dangerous conceit that
  • 00:18:33.095 --> 00:18:38.267
  • Because we lasted 250 years, will last for 250 more.
  • 00:18:38.267 --> 00:18:42.405
  • And i talk about the rise of the new jacobins
  • 00:18:42.405 --> 00:18:45.107
  • After those radicals that came out of the french revolution.
  • 00:18:45.107 --> 00:18:48.544
  • You have many law professors and deans today.
  • 00:18:48.544 --> 00:18:51.414
  • So calling for the trashing of the american constitution,
  • 00:18:51.414 --> 00:18:54.283
  • Saying it's now the thing that threatens us.
  • 00:18:54.283 --> 00:18:57.119
  • And you do have many of those parallels
  • 00:18:57.119 --> 00:19:00.556
  • To the french revolution.
  • 00:19:00.556 --> 00:19:02.291
  • One of the first things
  • 00:19:02.291 --> 00:19:03.459
  • The french revolution did was turn against the church
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  • And the clergy.
  • 00:19:06.395 --> 00:19:07.730
  • They tore away all of the fabrics and values
  • 00:19:07.730 --> 00:19:10.866
  • That existed in their society, and they replaced it
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  • With a dangerous form of my bankruptcy.
  • 00:19:14.237 --> 00:19:17.006
  • That's what the framers wanted to avoid.
  • 00:19:17.006 --> 00:19:19.108
  • They wanted to avoid the problem of democracies becoming
  • 00:19:19.108 --> 00:19:22.245
  • My bankruptcies, democracies devouring themselves.
  • 00:19:22.245 --> 00:19:26.582
  • And yes, that can happen in this century.
  • 00:19:26.582 --> 00:19:29.585
  • Yeah.
  • 00:19:29.585 --> 00:19:30.620
  • And you write in the book, there's a fine line
  • 00:19:30.620 --> 00:19:31.687
  • Between democracy and mob ocracy, as you call it,
  • 00:19:31.687 --> 00:19:34.857
  • A pivotal figure that maybe gets overlooked sometimes.
  • 00:19:34.857 --> 00:19:37.793
  • Thomas paine, author of common sense, of course,
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  • And you write about him in the book professor,
  • 00:19:40.596 --> 00:19:42.198
  • Why was he so important to the founding of this country?
  • 00:19:42.198 --> 00:19:44.900
  • You know, erick, it's funny because my poor children
  • 00:19:45.935 --> 00:19:48.104
  • Had to live with six years of research on thomas paine.
  • 00:19:48.104 --> 00:19:52.008
  • And he has an inexhaustible interesting figure.
  • 00:19:52.008 --> 00:19:55.378
  • He's often downplayed back then as well as today.
  • 00:19:55.378 --> 00:19:59.348
  • A lot of people, even then didn't like him.
  • 00:19:59.348 --> 00:20:01.651
  • He they preferred thomas jefferson, tall and handsome
  • 00:20:01.651 --> 00:20:05.521
  • And erudite and formally educated and a slaveowner.
  • 00:20:05.521 --> 00:20:10.026
  • Thomas paine was none of those things.
  • 00:20:10.026 --> 00:20:11.494
  • He was vehemently against slavery.
  • 00:20:11.494 --> 00:20:13.729
  • But thomas paine came to this country a human wreck.
  • 00:20:13.729 --> 00:20:17.600
  • He'd failed in everything he had ever done.
  • 00:20:17.600 --> 00:20:19.568
  • He was fired.
  • 00:20:19.568 --> 00:20:20.236
  • Every job he ever held,
  • 00:20:20.236 --> 00:20:21.637
  • Every business he created ended up in bankruptcy.
  • 00:20:21.637 --> 00:20:24.707
  • And he came
  • 00:20:24.707 --> 00:20:25.841
  • In front of a person, this pile of wreckage in london.
  • 00:20:25.841 --> 00:20:29.011
  • And nobody liked him.
  • 00:20:29.011 --> 00:20:30.880
  • Nobody thought he would amount to anything except this one man.
  • 00:20:30.880 --> 00:20:35.318
  • And that was benjamin franklin.
  • 00:20:35.318 --> 00:20:37.386
  • He saw something in thomas paine, something
  • 00:20:37.386 --> 00:20:40.523
  • That was so significant that he paid for paine
  • 00:20:40.523 --> 00:20:44.393
  • To go to the colonies and told him to write.
  • 00:20:44.393 --> 00:20:48.397
  • I think that what benjamin franklin saw
  • 00:20:48.397 --> 00:20:51.334
  • Was a righteous rage that we needed here.
  • 00:20:51.334 --> 00:20:54.503
  • It was only two years after he arrived here
  • 00:20:54.503 --> 00:20:58.240
  • That he would be called the penman
  • 00:20:58.240 --> 00:20:59.809
  • Of the american revolution, the author of common sense.
  • 00:20:59.809 --> 00:21:03.346
  • Yeah. incredible.
  • 00:21:03.779 --> 00:21:05.014
  • It's all there. and rage in the republic.
  • 00:21:05.014 --> 00:21:06.582
  • But before we let you go, professor, one quick question.
  • 00:21:06.582 --> 00:21:09.085
  • You wrote a great column yesterday on foxnews.com
  • 00:21:09.085 --> 00:21:11.921
  • About leaks from the coming from the supreme court.
  • 00:21:11.921 --> 00:21:15.224
  • How concerned are you about that?
  • 00:21:15.224 --> 00:21:16.659
  • About a minute left leaks coming from the
  • 00:21:16.659 --> 00:21:18.494
  • Highest court in the land.
  • 00:21:18.494 --> 00:21:19.695
  • You know, erick, i'm very concerned.
  • 00:21:20.496 --> 00:21:21.931
  • You know,
  • 00:21:21.931 --> 00:21:23.165
  • The supreme court has always been an island in washington.
  • 00:21:23.165 --> 00:21:25.501
  • This.
  • 00:21:25.501 --> 00:21:26.635
  • This is a city that floats on a rolling sea of leaks.
  • 00:21:26.635 --> 00:21:30.172
  • It's the commodity of washington, d.c..
  • 00:21:30.172 --> 00:21:32.708
  • The supreme court was that island of integrity.
  • 00:21:32.708 --> 00:21:35.878
  • And we've now had a series of leaks coming out of the court
  • 00:21:35.878 --> 00:21:39.415
  • With a real malicious intent.
  • 00:21:39.415 --> 00:21:42.051
  • The latest one
  • 00:21:42.051 --> 00:21:43.185
  • Were confidential memos between the justices themselves
  • 00:21:43.185 --> 00:21:47.256
  • And what concerns us is that they never did find
  • 00:21:47.256 --> 00:21:49.992
  • The leaker that released the dobbs decision early.
  • 00:21:49.992 --> 00:21:53.796
  • And it does appear that their culture on the court
  • 00:21:53.796 --> 00:21:57.700
  • Is is beginning to break down.
  • 00:21:57.700 --> 00:21:59.702
  • It's beginning to collapse.
  • 00:21:59.702 --> 00:22:01.504
  • And chief justice roberts, in my view, is going to have to
  • 00:22:01.504 --> 00:22:04.306
  • Take a more aggressive position with this leak.
  • 00:22:04.306 --> 00:22:06.842
  • And call in the fbi and say, we need to find out,
  • 00:22:06.842 --> 00:22:10.746
  • Because otherwise this culture will collapse.
  • 00:22:10.746 --> 00:22:12.815
  • And that would be a terrible thing for this court.
  • 00:22:12.815 --> 00:22:14.884
  • And that keeps with the themes of the book
  • 00:22:14.884 --> 00:22:16.419
  • In a sense, professor,
  • 00:22:16.419 --> 00:22:17.486
  • Preserving our way of life and our institutions.
  • 00:22:17.486 --> 00:22:19.989
  • Great job professor. folks, rage in the republic.
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  • Pick it up right now.
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  • New york times bestseller amazon.com
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  • Wherever books are sold. professor, thanks so much.
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  • Keep up the great work.
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  • God bless.
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  • We'll see you again soon.
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  • And coming up, my final thoughts.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks.
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  • You know, as we wrap up here, i was thinking earlier
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  • About trump, reagan, churchill being men of destiny.
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  • And i thought of proverbs chapter 16, verse nine,
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  • The heart of man plans his way, but the lord establishes
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  • His steps.
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  • Now trump, reagan, churchill.
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  • Perhaps they didn't set out to be the leader
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  • Of the free world and trump in reagan's case.
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  • In churchill's case, essentially as well.
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  • But that's exactly where they ended up.
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  • So don't doubt.
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  • And don't forget that god has a great plan for your life
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  • And a great destiny for your life.
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  • Pastor dumisani
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  • Washington and corey brooks know that very well.
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  • They'll be here tomorrow night with some exciting things.
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  • A walk across america, folks.
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  • You're going want to hear about this?
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  • Until then, god bless you.
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  • We'll see you soon.
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