Erick Stakelbeck: The War on Christians | Stakelbeck Tonight

November 11, 2025 | 25:5

Join Erick Stakelbeck on Stakelbeck Tonight as he delves into the global chaos caused by radical Islam, focusing on the persecution of Christians in Nigeria, threats from Iran, and rising anti-Semitism in France. With guest Johnnie Moore shedding light on the issues and solutions, the show highlights the importance of standing with the persecuted and supporting peace efforts in the Middle East. As they discuss the Trump administration's foreign policy successes, viewers are reminded of the sacrifices made for faith and the ongoing battle for religious freedom. Stay tuned for insightful commentary and a call to action in a turbulent world.

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Stakelbeck Tonight | Erick Stakelbeck: The War on Christians | Stakelbeck Tonight | November 11, 2025
  • Welcome to stakelbeck tonight i'm erick stakelbeck
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  • And i want to wish you a happy veteran's day.
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  • To all the brave men
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  • And women who've served in our armed forces.
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  • We appreciate you greatly, and we thank you for sacrificing
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  • And putting your lives on the line to keep us free.
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  • There is never been another nation like the united states,
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  • And that fact is driven home every day by the madness we see
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  • In other parts of the world.
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  • What about nigeria, where muslim jihadists have massacred
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  • At least 7000 christians this year alone?
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  • It's gotten so bad
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  • That president trump is threatening to intervene
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  • And save the persecuted church in that country.
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  • Then we have iran, the radical jihadist government.
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  • There is now imposing nightly water rations
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  • In the capital, tehran, a city of 10 million people.
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  • It's iran's worst drought in over 50 years.
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  • And iran's president just said that if no rain falls
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  • By the end of this month, tehran may need to be evacuated.
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  • Folks, things always unravel into chaos for tyrannies
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  • That oppose the god of the bible, like iran's regime.
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  • But it's not just africa in the middle east where we see
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  • Insanity unfolding.
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  • Look at france,
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  • Where 52% of jews are considering relocating
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  • Thanks to the explosion of anti-semitism there.
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  • That's due in large part to mass muslim immigration.
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  • Folks, do you see a pattern here?
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  • Christians and jews
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  • Targeted in the old slogan of radical islam.
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  • First the saturday people, then the sunday
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  • People playing out in real time.
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  • This is what our brave men and women in uniform
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  • Are fighting against.
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  • Coming up next, johnnie moore, president of jada worldwide
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  • And former faith adviser
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  • To president trump, joins me to lay out the problems
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  • And solutions to this growing radical islamic wave.
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  • Take a look.
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  • Johnnie moore, always great to see you, my friend.
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  • And you and i were talking off camera.
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  • We are at a very dangerous moment in america,
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  • Which has historically been, look,
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  • A loyal friend to israel, safe haven for the jewish people.
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  • We see this rise in anti-semitism,
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  • Not only on the left, of course,
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  • The radical left, college campus mobs, etc., but on the right.
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  • Johnnie, how concerned are you about this?
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  • And how big a problem is this for president trump's coalition
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  • For the maga movement going forward?
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  • I mean, it's a serious moment.
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  • I, as an evangelical, immersed in evangelical culture.
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  • I mean, we are the largest single voting constituency
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  • In the united states, above all other voting constituencies.
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  • I don't see a material change among evangelicals.
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  • I do see conservative catholics having some type of weird
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  • Identity crisis on foreign policy,
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  • And i'm not sure where that lands.
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  • I think on evangelicals, we're going to still be the stalwart
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  • Supporters of of the us-israel relationship.
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  • I mean, we are zionist at our heart, always have been.
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  • But this whole situation that's emerging in front of our eyes
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  • And the social media world
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  • Is an indication of how important it is
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  • That we teach the next generation the truth,
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  • Because they're in the sewer of lies.
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  • And and the fact is,
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  • Is that some of those who are telling lies,
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  • It's not just about israel, it's
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  • Not just about american foreign policy.
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  • I mean, i was watching one of these podcasters earlier today.
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  • I mean, they were being an apologist
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  • For maduro in venezuela.
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  • Like, this person is allegedly a conservative.
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  • There's nothing conservative about any of that.
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  • But if we don't know our history
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  • And we don't teach our children the truth,
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  • And we don't believe in the bible
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  • And we don't focus on very, very fundamental things,
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  • Then this
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  • Virus of anti-semitism, this innate hatred of the jews
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  • That comes from the pit of hell and satan himself
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  • Will always find a little corner.
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  • And i'll be honest,
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  • Erick, i thought we killed off the christian version of this.
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  • But it's coming back and it will fail.
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  • Johnnie, how serious is replacement
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  • Theology as a problem?
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  • I mean, it seems to be gaining steam, much of it
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  • Social media driven, as you mentioned.
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  • But this concept of replacement theology,
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  • God's done with israel. he's done with the jews.
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  • They've been cast aside.
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  • How dangerous is that?
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  • How prevalent is that becoming in some quarters of the church?
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  • I mean, the irony is, it's
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  • Like when we had this conversation,
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  • Say, 10
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  • Or 15 years ago, 20 years ago,
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  • It was a theological conversation.
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  • It was a replacement theology versus like, whatever.
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  • Now people don't even know theology at all.
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  • Like, it's not replacement theology versus like,
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  • You know, traditional christian evangelical theology.
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  • It's just like
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  • People are getting their quick takes from the internet.
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  • They're hearing things from people
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  • That they should be able to trust.
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  • They're being manipulated, by the way.
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  • They're also foreign governments
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  • That are adversaries of the united states
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  • That are involved in and and fueling some of this.
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  • I mean, frankly, what it is is it's an attempt
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  • To to split the maga
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  • Wing of the republican party, to split it in half on one side.
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  • Those who are, true maga, true, america
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  • First, maga people that are the, as the
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  • As the kids say or used to say the ogs like the original maga.
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  • And by the way, you know, i met donald trump in 2011.
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  • Okay.
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  • I cold called the one 800 number on the trump website
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  • To ask and see if he would come speak at liberty university.
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  • And donald trump called me back himself within an hour.
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  • And a few months later,
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  • A few weeks later, he was speaking
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  • To the first large evangelical crowd,
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  • That he had ever, ever spoken to over 10,000 students
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  • At liberty university.
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  • So no one's going to lecture me on donald trump.
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  • People like me have been there from the very beginning.
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  • The people who are promoting
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  • This anti-semitism are people that have volumes and volumes
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  • And volumes of of criticism there come by lately friends,
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  • Who fly with the wind of whatever benefits them.
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  • But we're not like that as christians
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  • Because our commitment to this incredible country,
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  • Unrivaled in human history, based on a judeo-christian
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  • Foundation, is in our core, because we know the truth.
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  • We know history.
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  • We know the bible.
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  • But just as quickly as we don't teach it to another generation,
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  • We're going to lose out this this heritage.
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  • It's a wake up call for everyone. yeah.
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  • And you are teaching it the next, next generation.
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  • Johnnie.
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  • Pepperdine university,
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  • Your new post liberty university, long running.
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  • Of course. your work there.
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  • What do you see among generation z right now?
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  • I see revival stirring there, especially in the wake
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  • Of charlie kirk's murder, of course.
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  • Revival stirring.
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  • Well, on the flip side, is there some,
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  • Maybe ignorance about israel or a misunderstanding of israel
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  • Among the generation as well
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  • That you're trying to tap into, obviously, and change that,
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  • But it seems kind of like a double edged sword.
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  • There's revival. it's great. they're coming to jesus.
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  • But there's this kind of ignorance
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  • About israel in some quarters of gen z.
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  • Yeah, i mean, this is
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  • One of the most incredible moments of history.
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  • Like we're seeing more people interested in faith
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  • Than at any point, certainly in my lifetime,
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  • I think, in my parents life.
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  • And certainly back to the jesus
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  • People, you know, period, like that.
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  • That was the last great revival.
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  • We're seeing people searching all over the world.
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  • I travel all around the world all the time.
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  • I see it everywhere.
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  • And yet it's also a precarious time
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  • Because when people search, they find what they find
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  • And with with ai coming in and people
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  • Consuming social media, people not reading books
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  • Anymore, parents aren't teaching their children like,
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  • You know, as christians,
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  • We can learn a lot from the jewish community
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  • About like the practice of shabbat,
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  • Of of reading the bible consistently,
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  • Of knowing your story, of being anchored
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  • In history, of remembering.
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  • I mean, we're sitting here
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  • As christians, having a conversation
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  • At the meeting of the republican jewish coalition.
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  • When i'm in environments like this, like i,
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  • I learn things i want to take into my own christian life.
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  • I'm not interested in mixing christianity and judaism.
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  • I'm a proud i'm a proud christian.
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  • But there's a lot of things that we left behind
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  • We can learn from.
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  • And if we learn these things, we pass them along.
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  • And at the heart of it is education.
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  • And so you're exactly right. i mean, at this,
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  • When i
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  • Completed my assignment in gaza,
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  • This the summer or about a month and a half a month ago,
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  • I decided, like,
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  • I wanted to focus on educating the next generation.
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  • And so i joined pepperdine university.
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  • We created a new masters, a middle east studies program.
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  • And there you mentioned liberty university,
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  • Now starting a center for israel.
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  • Liberty university is the most zionist
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  • Of any evangelical school on the planet.
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  • But you can't take this stuff for granted.
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  • If we don't teach our children the truth.
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  • There will always be wolves crawling around
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  • Waiting for an opportunity to just to slide in.
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  • And i can tell you,
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  • It's not just like
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  • Coincidental that the most powerful,
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  • Successful, wealthy country in human history happens to also
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  • Be the one country that israel can always rely upon.
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  • And it's because of that strength,
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  • Because of that relationship, that we're
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  • Also able to bring peace across that entire region.
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  • And i'm i'm not i'm not giving away that heritage
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  • That i inherited. i'm going to pass it on.
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  • Coming up, the abraham accords,
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  • Who's next to sign and how it could reshape the middle east
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  • And the world, stick around.
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  • And the world, stick around.
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  • The abraham accords
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  • Very much back on the table, it seems,
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  • And some great potential going forward.
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  • President trump back in office, of course, the iranian axis
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  • Licking its wounds right now in a very weakened position.
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  • What do you see going forward for the abraham accords?
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  • Could we see some movement?
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  • Do you believe in the coming months in the next year or so?
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • I mean, we're not only going to see
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  • The expansion of the abraham accords,
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  • We're going to see a historic, unprecedented peace
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  • That's going to include countries no one expected.
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  • And this is this is what happens when you have a president
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  • Who knows who his friends are and isn't ashamed
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  • Of his friends,
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  • A president who makes decisions based upon the facts,
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  • Not whatever the political winds are blowing.
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  • And and in the middle east, i mean that because,
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  • Yeah, i'm very close to israel.
  • 00:10:40.782 --> 00:10:42.484
  • I'm very close to the jewish community.
  • 00:10:42.484 --> 00:10:44.086
  • And on the same token,
  • 00:10:44.086 --> 00:10:45.053
  • I'm very close to the arab community.
  • 00:10:45.053 --> 00:10:46.755
  • And i spent a lot of time in the gulf,
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  • And i talk to all these leaders and i, you know, and
  • 00:10:48.190 --> 00:10:51.426
  • Talk to all their media outlets.
  • 00:10:51.426 --> 00:10:52.761
  • I, i've met every single minister of islamic
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  • Affairs, i think, in the muslim world on multiple occasions.
  • 00:10:56.064 --> 00:10:59.334
  • And i can tell you,
  • 00:10:59.334 --> 00:11:00.502
  • They all pray every day and desperately want peace.
  • 00:11:00.502 --> 00:11:05.207
  • And they think peace is now possible
  • 00:11:05.207 --> 00:11:06.908
  • Because we have a president of the united states,
  • 00:11:06.908 --> 00:11:08.910
  • To quote them, who can speak the language of the middle east.
  • 00:11:08.910 --> 00:11:13.348
  • And so we have to pray for it. it's not going to be easy.
  • 00:11:13.348 --> 00:11:15.484
  • This was a terrible, painful
  • 00:11:15.484 --> 00:11:17.686
  • Two years that brought incredible,
  • 00:11:17.686 --> 00:11:19.588
  • Incredible suffering on so many, so many people.
  • 00:11:19.588 --> 00:11:21.990
  • We have a lot of work to do,
  • 00:11:21.990 --> 00:11:23.658
  • But we have a historic opportunity.
  • 00:11:23.658 --> 00:11:26.128
  • We aren't just seeing the end
  • 00:11:26.128 --> 00:11:27.662
  • Of this terrible war and the freeing of the hostages.
  • 00:11:27.662 --> 00:11:31.666
  • We're not only seeing the total elimination
  • 00:11:31.666 --> 00:11:34.903
  • Of iran's a ring of fire around israel and
  • 00:11:34.903 --> 00:11:38.306
  • And an eight front war, including the information war.
  • 00:11:38.306 --> 00:11:42.377
  • We're seeing a new door of peace crack open.
  • 00:11:42.377 --> 00:11:45.247
  • And i think people are going to be surprised at what happens.
  • 00:11:45.247 --> 00:11:47.415
  • And none of it happens that president trump
  • 00:11:47.415 --> 00:11:49.017
  • Truly is the leader of the free world.
  • 00:11:49.017 --> 00:11:50.719
  • And peace through strength always works.
  • 00:11:50.719 --> 00:11:53.622
  • And we're seeing it again in real time.
  • 00:11:53.622 --> 00:11:55.557
  • Gaza unitarian foundation.
  • 00:11:55.557 --> 00:11:58.393
  • What a few months.
  • 00:11:58.827 --> 00:11:59.928
  • What a 2025 you've had my friend
  • 00:11:59.928 --> 00:12:01.663
  • Talk about the accomplishments,
  • 00:12:01.663 --> 00:12:03.064
  • The challenges and the strain on your family.
  • 00:12:03.064 --> 00:12:05.901
  • I mean, you received death threats.
  • 00:12:05.901 --> 00:12:07.569
  • This was not an easy thing, but god led you to do that.
  • 00:12:07.569 --> 00:12:11.239
  • Yeah.
  • 00:12:11.473 --> 00:12:12.340
  • I mean, there's a few rules in life.
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  • Two plus two equals four.
  • 00:12:14.409 --> 00:12:16.812
  • Every day the sun rises and the sun sets
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  • And is a terrorist organization.
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  • And the grand poobah of the united nations are against you.
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  • You're probably doing the right thing.
  • 00:12:27.255 --> 00:12:30.458
  • And that's the story of the gaza humanitarian foundation.
  • 00:12:30.458 --> 00:12:33.261
  • While we're sitting here, what happened was nearly 200
  • 00:12:33.261 --> 00:12:37.098
  • Meals were delivered for free to the people of gaza.
  • 00:12:37.098 --> 00:12:41.203
  • Hamas wasn't able to steal one truck,
  • 00:12:41.203 --> 00:12:45.273
  • But millions of of of, high nutritional food
  • 00:12:45.273 --> 00:12:49.311
  • Supplements given to children.
  • 00:12:49.311 --> 00:12:50.478
  • The united nations, by the way,
  • 00:12:50.478 --> 00:12:51.947
  • A unicef wouldn't give ghf the nutritional supplements
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  • To give to children,
  • 00:12:55.150 --> 00:12:56.251
  • Despite the fact that the us probably paid for it.
  • 00:12:56.251 --> 00:12:58.587
  • So we picked up the phone.
  • 00:12:58.587 --> 00:12:59.855
  • We called samaritan's
  • 00:12:59.855 --> 00:13:00.889
  • Purse in franklin, graham sent multiple planeloads,
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  • And we distributed those to hungry children,
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  • In the, in the gaza strip.
  • 00:13:07.596 --> 00:13:09.331
  • And for sure, no question.
  • 00:13:09.331 --> 00:13:11.499
  • While the singular mission of grief
  • 00:13:11.499 --> 00:13:13.535
  • Was to feed as many people as possible,
  • 00:13:13.535 --> 00:13:15.437
  • And we touched half of the people in the gaza
  • 00:13:15.437 --> 00:13:17.639
  • Strip, a million people, maybe more in the gaza strip.
  • 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:21.376
  • That was the one mission, mission accomplished. but
  • 00:13:21.376 --> 00:13:24.379
  • It also created the conditions that helped president trump
  • 00:13:24.379 --> 00:13:28.383
  • In the war
  • 00:13:28.683 --> 00:13:29.951
  • Free the living hostages, almost all of the deceased hostages.
  • 00:13:29.951 --> 00:13:33.321
  • We pray they all come home and created the environment
  • 00:13:33.321 --> 00:13:36.291
  • To pave the way for for peace in the middle east.
  • 00:13:36.291 --> 00:13:39.694
  • And so, yeah, it was hard and and and i, i
  • 00:13:39.694 --> 00:13:43.465
  • It was never about me.
  • 00:13:43.465 --> 00:13:44.833
  • And i don't want to make it about me and in fact, you know.
  • 00:13:44.833 --> 00:13:48.336
  • But there was sacrifice involved.
  • 00:13:48.336 --> 00:13:49.971
  • It was a difficult thing for you.
  • 00:13:49.971 --> 00:13:51.640
  • Well, the real sacrifice were the brave gazans
  • 00:13:51.640 --> 00:13:54.776
  • Who helped us help their people, and they lost their lives.
  • 00:13:54.776 --> 00:13:58.813
  • I mean, i had people threatened my life
  • 00:13:58.813 --> 00:14:00.315
  • And threatened my family.
  • 00:14:00.315 --> 00:14:01.416
  • And one time i had 62 protesters outside of my house,
  • 00:14:01.416 --> 00:14:05.086
  • You know, giving every car or driving into our neighborhood.
  • 00:14:05.086 --> 00:14:08.189
  • They gave them a flier with our address on it
  • 00:14:08.189 --> 00:14:10.392
  • Saying that a war criminal lives.
  • 00:14:10.392 --> 00:14:12.360
  • I mean, it's just a bunch of nonsense.
  • 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:14.296
  • Yeah, but that was a small sacrifice
  • 00:14:14.296 --> 00:14:16.097
  • To pay to do our part and fulfilling what?
  • 00:14:16.097 --> 00:14:19.234
  • I mean, what is more christian
  • 00:14:19.234 --> 00:14:20.535
  • Than feeding people who need food
  • 00:14:20.535 --> 00:14:22.637
  • And also doing it in a way that helps bring a war, to,
  • 00:14:22.637 --> 00:14:26.041
  • To an end and freeing, freeing the captives, like,
  • 00:14:26.041 --> 00:14:28.843
  • For the rest of my life these three months,
  • 00:14:28.843 --> 00:14:30.946
  • I'll look back and be grateful to god
  • 00:14:30.946 --> 00:14:32.914
  • That i had the opportunity to be a part of this.
  • 00:14:32.914 --> 00:14:35.216
  • What did you learn about this mechanism?
  • 00:14:35.216 --> 00:14:38.019
  • It seems coordinated in a sense, for sure.
  • 00:14:38.019 --> 00:14:40.789
  • That just is all in on disinformation and propaganda
  • 00:14:40.789 --> 00:14:44.626
  • Against israel.
  • 00:14:44.626 --> 00:14:46.127
  • People don't realize it yet.
  • 00:14:46.127 --> 00:14:48.029
  • Historians will realize it.
  • 00:14:48.029 --> 00:14:49.397
  • Maybe we'll realize it soon, but we just lived through
  • 00:14:49.397 --> 00:14:53.101
  • The first world information war.
  • 00:14:53.101 --> 00:14:56.705
  • We had world war one, we had world war two,
  • 00:14:56.705 --> 00:14:59.174
  • We had the cold war.
  • 00:14:59.174 --> 00:15:00.608
  • We may be in a second cold war, depending upon
  • 00:15:00.608 --> 00:15:02.811
  • How you look at it, with our relationship with,
  • 00:15:02.811 --> 00:15:05.313
  • Certain other countries, including china.
  • 00:15:05.313 --> 00:15:06.948
  • Probably not.
  • 00:15:06.948 --> 00:15:08.183
  • But what we just experienced was the first world information
  • 00:15:08.183 --> 00:15:12.454
  • War, where adversaries of the united states,
  • 00:15:12.454 --> 00:15:14.823
  • Where hamas managed to embed their allies
  • 00:15:14.823 --> 00:15:17.125
  • And media outlets all over europe,
  • 00:15:17.125 --> 00:15:18.860
  • Where every single lie was given an audience
  • 00:15:18.860 --> 00:15:22.063
  • And therefore given credibility by what used to be
  • 00:15:22.063 --> 00:15:24.866
  • The most credible media outlets in the world.
  • 00:15:24.866 --> 00:15:27.168
  • It was insidious.
  • 00:15:27.168 --> 00:15:28.636
  • It was expansive, it was global, and it sought one thing
  • 00:15:28.636 --> 00:15:33.742
  • Which was an anti-semitic goal of seeing the eradication
  • 00:15:33.742 --> 00:15:38.213
  • Of of the jewish community, the people of israel
  • 00:15:38.213 --> 00:15:40.915
  • And everyone that stood with them,
  • 00:15:40.915 --> 00:15:42.684
  • And to demonize anyone who didn't have that,
  • 00:15:42.684 --> 00:15:45.754
  • That point of view.
  • 00:15:45.754 --> 00:15:46.588
  • I mean, think about the irony of us
  • 00:15:46.588 --> 00:15:49.557
  • At one point, the only people
  • 00:15:50.191 --> 00:15:52.460
  • Giving food on a un map on a massive scale
  • 00:15:52.460 --> 00:15:56.664
  • To the hungry palestinians in the gaza strip.
  • 00:15:56.664 --> 00:16:00.402
  • And yet they made us the enemies.
  • 00:16:00.402 --> 00:16:03.204
  • How do they make us the un?
  • 00:16:03.204 --> 00:16:04.039
  • And the un was a bottleneck.
  • 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:05.173
  • By the way, i actually.
  • 00:16:05.173 --> 00:16:07.275
  • Wrote the un from the top to the bottom
  • 00:16:07.275 --> 00:16:10.545
  • Is and was corrupt.
  • 00:16:10.545 --> 00:16:13.348
  • And when we started shining
  • 00:16:13.348 --> 00:16:14.516
  • A bright light in those dark places, one day
  • 00:16:14.516 --> 00:16:17.485
  • We'll tell the full story.
  • 00:16:17.485 --> 00:16:18.553
  • But they didn't like it very much.
  • 00:16:18.553 --> 00:16:20.789
  • And i ended up having all these like, unofficial meetings.
  • 00:16:20.789 --> 00:16:24.626
  • They were they were crying, uncle,
  • 00:16:24.626 --> 00:16:26.828
  • Because they weren't used to the more used to the criticism.
  • 00:16:26.828 --> 00:16:29.798
  • And in the end we ended up working together.
  • 00:16:29.798 --> 00:16:31.666
  • And why did we work together?
  • 00:16:31.666 --> 00:16:33.134
  • We worked together because
  • 00:16:33.134 --> 00:16:35.403
  • The truth is, we actually really did want to help people.
  • 00:16:35.403 --> 00:16:38.573
  • That's why we showed up every day.
  • 00:16:38.573 --> 00:16:40.075
  • And often
  • 00:16:40.075 --> 00:16:41.142
  • We would look to our right and we look to our left
  • 00:16:41.142 --> 00:16:42.544
  • And we'd say, where's the united nations?
  • 00:16:42.544 --> 00:16:44.813
  • You know where they were?
  • 00:16:44.813 --> 00:16:46.147
  • They were at the microphones criticizing the united states
  • 00:16:46.147 --> 00:16:49.384
  • And israel while we were in the sands of the gaza strip,
  • 00:16:49.384 --> 00:16:53.755
  • Risking our lives in order to feed, to feed hungry people.
  • 00:16:53.755 --> 00:16:57.725
  • And so the un, i don't think it should go away,
  • 00:16:57.725 --> 00:17:00.195
  • But it needs to be improved.
  • 00:17:00.195 --> 00:17:02.063
  • It needs to be reformed, and
  • 00:17:02.063 --> 00:17:03.331
  • And actually reformed ought to be shut down.
  • 00:17:03.331 --> 00:17:06.367
  • Coming up, johnnie
  • 00:17:06.801 --> 00:17:07.802
  • Moore exposes the ongoing targeted violence
  • 00:17:07.802 --> 00:17:10.939
  • Against christians in nigeria and why it matters to you.
  • 00:17:10.939 --> 00:17:15.210
  • That's next.
  • 00:17:15.543 --> 00:17:19.988
  • That's next.
  • 00:17:19.988 --> 00:17:22.579
  • We talk about the silence, by the way,
  • 00:17:23.413 --> 00:17:25.215
  • In the halls of the u.n.
  • 00:17:25.215 --> 00:17:26.382
  • And among these anti-israel activists,
  • 00:17:26.382 --> 00:17:28.885
  • You think they'd be celebrating
  • 00:17:28.885 --> 00:17:30.019
  • A ceasefire, but they're also silent.
  • 00:17:30.019 --> 00:17:31.488
  • Johnnie, in the face of a real genocide in nigeria.
  • 00:17:31.488 --> 00:17:34.257
  • Yeah.
  • 00:17:34.257 --> 00:17:35.358
  • Christians being slaughtered 7000 this year already.
  • 00:17:35.358 --> 00:17:38.761
  • Churches being destroyed, burned to the ground.
  • 00:17:38.761 --> 00:17:40.864
  • You've been sadly alarmed about this
  • 00:17:40.864 --> 00:17:42.398
  • For years, a situation nigeria.
  • 00:17:42.398 --> 00:17:43.967
  • You wrote a great book about it
  • 00:17:43.967 --> 00:17:45.001
  • Called the next jihad while the jihad is here,
  • 00:17:45.001 --> 00:17:48.004
  • Can you talk about what's unfolding
  • 00:17:48.004 --> 00:17:49.472
  • For the body of christ in nigeria right now?
  • 00:17:49.472 --> 00:17:52.275
  • By the way, the u.n.
  • 00:17:52.275 --> 00:17:53.309
  • Isn't just silent about the genocide in nigeria.
  • 00:17:53.309 --> 00:17:55.778
  • They're also silent about the actual famine in the sudan.
  • 00:17:55.778 --> 00:17:59.816
  • That's right.
  • 00:17:59.816 --> 00:18:00.383
  • Yeah, they they
  • 00:18:00.383 --> 00:18:01.751
  • They manipulated data for political reasons
  • 00:18:01.751 --> 00:18:04.587
  • In order to to, in effect, create a famine in the,
  • 00:18:04.587 --> 00:18:08.391
  • In the gaza strip.
  • 00:18:08.391 --> 00:18:09.392
  • Then there actually is a famine in, in nigeria.
  • 00:18:09.392 --> 00:18:11.728
  • Exactly. yeah.
  • 00:18:11.728 --> 00:18:13.329
  • Nigeria and the country surrounding in the sahel
  • 00:18:13.329 --> 00:18:16.799
  • Has become the place
  • 00:18:17.267 --> 00:18:19.536
  • That the terrorists who want to slaughter christians
  • 00:18:19.536 --> 00:18:23.106
  • Go there to do it for sport, and they do it
  • 00:18:23.106 --> 00:18:26.142
  • In the most grotesque and brutal ways imaginable.
  • 00:18:26.142 --> 00:18:28.912
  • And just
  • 00:18:28.912 --> 00:18:30.513
  • Like basically while we're talking here,
  • 00:18:31.347 --> 00:18:34.450
  • The white house sent a clear message
  • 00:18:34.450 --> 00:18:36.452
  • From the president himself, a statement, by the way,
  • 00:18:36.452 --> 00:18:38.721
  • That usually comes from the department of state.
  • 00:18:38.721 --> 00:18:40.790
  • The president said, no,
  • 00:18:40.790 --> 00:18:42.058
  • This isn't coming from the department of state.
  • 00:18:42.058 --> 00:18:44.093
  • I'm i'm sure marco rubio would have been happy to do it.
  • 00:18:44.093 --> 00:18:46.496
  • But the president has said this comes from the president.
  • 00:18:46.496 --> 00:18:48.865
  • It comes from the oval office.
  • 00:18:48.865 --> 00:18:50.266
  • And he put the largest democracy,
  • 00:18:50.266 --> 00:18:53.336
  • The biggest economy, the most populated country
  • 00:18:53.336 --> 00:18:56.506
  • On the african continent, on notice.
  • 00:18:56.506 --> 00:18:59.042
  • This stops now or else.
  • 00:18:59.042 --> 00:19:02.445
  • And by the way,
  • 00:19:02.445 --> 00:19:03.246
  • It's the second time he did it,
  • 00:19:03.246 --> 00:19:04.981
  • Because at the end of his first administration,
  • 00:19:04.981 --> 00:19:07.083
  • He did the same thing.
  • 00:19:07.083 --> 00:19:08.651
  • But almost as quickly as the biden administration came
  • 00:19:08.651 --> 00:19:11.521
  • In, one of the
  • 00:19:11.521 --> 00:19:12.222
  • First actions that they took was
  • 00:19:12.222 --> 00:19:13.856
  • They they removed
  • 00:19:13.856 --> 00:19:14.924
  • The terrorist designation, the houthis in yemen,
  • 00:19:14.924 --> 00:19:17.026
  • And they took off the countries,
  • 00:19:17.026 --> 00:19:18.361
  • A particular concern designation from from nigeria.
  • 00:19:18.361 --> 00:19:21.331
  • I mean,
  • 00:19:21.331 --> 00:19:21.931
  • President trump gave them months to fix it.
  • 00:19:22.832 --> 00:19:25.068
  • Yeah. and they chose not to fix it.
  • 00:19:25.068 --> 00:19:26.970
  • And now they're going to face
  • 00:19:26.970 --> 00:19:27.770
  • Consequences, consequences for it.
  • 00:19:27.770 --> 00:19:29.973
  • Nigeria needs to see its
  • 00:19:29.973 --> 00:19:31.307
  • Christians as a blessing, and they need to protect them.
  • 00:19:31.307 --> 00:19:35.311
  • And hopefully, hopefully they will.
  • 00:19:35.311 --> 00:19:38.114
  • It would be a real mistake to fight it though.
  • 00:19:38.114 --> 00:19:40.083
  • I mean, by now i think everyone understands that,
  • 00:19:40.083 --> 00:19:43.553
  • At least at this time in this administration, when it speaks,
  • 00:19:43.553 --> 00:19:47.724
  • It means it.
  • 00:19:47.724 --> 00:19:48.992
  • And the nigerian government has a choice.
  • 00:19:48.992 --> 00:19:51.261
  • Now they can choose to get on an airplane,
  • 00:19:51.261 --> 00:19:53.763
  • Come to the united states, ask the u.s.
  • 00:19:53.763 --> 00:19:55.632
  • For help,
  • 00:19:55.632 --> 00:19:56.499
  • Figure out how to solve the problem,
  • 00:19:56.499 --> 00:19:57.934
  • Or they can become defensive, or they can do what maduro did
  • 00:19:57.934 --> 00:20:00.937
  • Or other other countries in the run into our adversaries.
  • 00:20:00.937 --> 00:20:04.140
  • Yeah, that doesn't end well.
  • 00:20:04.140 --> 00:20:05.775
  • What ends well is come and say, hey, help us.
  • 00:20:05.775 --> 00:20:08.745
  • We don't know how to do it. it's out of control.
  • 00:20:08.745 --> 00:20:10.280
  • You're right. help us fix the problem.
  • 00:20:10.280 --> 00:20:12.482
  • Yeah.
  • 00:20:12.482 --> 00:20:13.683
  • We see moral clarity returning to dc into the white house.
  • 00:20:13.683 --> 00:20:17.020
  • Of course, president trump. hey, last question.
  • 00:20:17.020 --> 00:20:20.123
  • We have about ten months sample size now of the trump
  • 00:20:20.123 --> 00:20:23.059
  • Administration, his second go round in the oval office.
  • 00:20:23.059 --> 00:20:26.362
  • What are you feeling? what do you say?
  • 00:20:26.362 --> 00:20:27.930
  • I personally think amazing things have happened.
  • 00:20:27.930 --> 00:20:30.366
  • I mean, at home and abroad.
  • 00:20:30.366 --> 00:20:32.635
  • And you and i talked about this
  • 00:20:32.635 --> 00:20:33.836
  • In the run up the election last year.
  • 00:20:33.836 --> 00:20:35.238
  • Now it's here back in office.
  • 00:20:35.238 --> 00:20:37.440
  • What have been your impressions of this
  • 00:20:37.440 --> 00:20:39.008
  • First year back for president trump?
  • 00:20:39.008 --> 00:20:42.011
  • Well, first of all, i'm not a partisan person.
  • 00:20:42.011 --> 00:20:44.380
  • I just want to call balls and strikes.
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  • And i think that, objectively speaking,
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  • We have never had a presidential administration
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  • That has done so much in such a short period of time.
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  • And i'm not someone so focused on domestic policy
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  • In the united states, or a lot of people focus on that.
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  • And in my
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  • Personal area of of experience and interest in foreign policy,
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  • I mean, we've had eight wars end.
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  • I mean, the gaza war is over.
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  • We had we had wars almost.
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  • I mean, we almost had a real war
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  • Between india and pakistan, two nuclear powers like this.
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  • This president has prioritized making peace around the world.
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  • And he's demonstrated
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  • That you can be america first without being america only.
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  • And in fact, the only way to preserve
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  • Your interest is as
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  • Is to make sure that you're playing a constructive role
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  • In the world.
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  • It doesn't mean
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  • Being america at first doesn't mean you're isolationist.
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  • It means that you're.
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  • It means that every decision you make
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  • Is is thoughtfully done to make sure
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  • That it doesn't give away american american interests
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  • And we went in in eight months or in ten months.
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  • I mean, the iranian nuclear program is gone.
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  • All these wars, and the world is substantially
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  • More, more peaceful. thereā–ˆll be surprises.
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  • But, you know, because there always are.
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  • But i think the report card is definitely an a-plus.
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  • Yeah, i would agree, johnnie moore
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  • Well said. as always my friend. keep up the great work.
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  • God bless down and we appreciate it.
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  • Thanks for having me as always.
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  • Thanks, johnnie.
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  • Great stuff there from our good friend johnnie moore.
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  • Folks, be sure to follow him on and across social media.
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  • Coming up, my final thoughts on the price.
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  • We all pay for following jesus.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Stick around.
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  • Welcome back to stakelbeck tonight, folks,
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  • As we wrap up here, i'm
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  • Thinking of those brave nigerian christians,
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  • Our brothers and sisters in christ,
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  • Who are laying down their lives for the gospel right now.
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  • Look,
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  • Thank god president trump is stepping
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  • Into the gap there and standing with them.
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  • And we need to as well keep them in prayer, lift them up.
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  • I think of second timothy chapter three, verse 12.
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  • In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life
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  • In christ jesus will be persecuted.
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  • It always takes different forms, is of the violent variety
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  • In nigeria.
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  • But we all pay a price to follow the lord jesus.
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  • But guess what, man is it worth it?
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  • A few folks who know that very well.
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  • David green with us tomorrow night.
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  • Pastor mark batterson,
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  • Cissie graham lynch, it's going to be a great show
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  • Until then, god bless you.
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  • We'll see you soon.
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