David Jeremiah - Slaying The Giants In Your Life Interview

February 7, 2026 | 57:29

Dr. David Jeremiah offers biblical guidance on slaying these monsters. Through personal anecdotes and scriptural insights, he reveals how to conquer worry, guilt, temptation, anger, doubt, and more. Join Sheila Walsh as she interviews Dr. Jeremiah, delving into his teachings on defeating these giants to live a victorious life of faith. Through faith and reliance on God's power, discover how to face and overcome the challenges that seek to defeat believers in today's world.

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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Slaying The Giants In Your Life Interview | February 7, 2026
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  • Male announcer: go forth in faith to face foes
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  • Greater and mightier than ourselves--
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  • Giants, great and tall; giants, cunning and cruel.
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  • But let us not run from the battle.
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  • Run to victory, for our god goes before us
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  • As a consuming fire that we may fight the giant of fear,
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  • Destroy the giant of discouragement,
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  • Be liberated from loneliness, win over worry,
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  • Guard ourselves from guilt, tame the giant of temptation,
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  • Attack anger, disarm doubt when we feel overtaken,
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  • And find freedom in defeating failure.
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  • Our god will slay the giants in the land
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  • And bring them down before us.
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  • Through his power, we shall drive them out
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  • And destroy them quickly as the lord has promised us.
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  • Do not be afraid.
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  • Our god will be with us.
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  • He will empower us.
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  • We can defeat our giants.
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  • We can win the battle.
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  • We can live victoriously.
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  • Female announcer: welcome to this edition of "turning point."
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  • Today, sheila walsh interviews dr. david jeremiah
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  • About his series "slaying the giants in your life."
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  • Watch as dr. jeremiah discusses how you can win the battle
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  • And live victoriously as you stand against the giants
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  • That seek to terrorize today's believers.
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  • In appreciation of your viewership,
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  • Dr. jeremiah would like to send you
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  • The giant slayer scripture cards absolutely free.
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  • Contact "turning point" today.
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  • And now, here is sheila walsh and david jeremiah.
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  • Sheila walsh: well, this is a really fun place to be.
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  • We've been in some amazing locations, but this,
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  • I mean, this is like some kind of ancient castle
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  • That we're in, which seems very appropriate
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  • For "slaying the giants in your life."
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  • We're gonna talk about some of the particular giants.
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  • But i wonder, first of all, why do you call them giants?
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  • Dr. david jeremiah: well, you know,
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  • I think this probably started, sheila,
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  • When i was studying the life of david,
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  • Of course, the famous story of david and goliath.
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  • And we love that story, and it speaks to us.
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  • But i really wanted to concentrate on the giants
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  • That we face in our culture today
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  • And how they're just as big to us as a 9'6" giant
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  • Was to david.
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  • Sheila: one of the things i love about your teaching,
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  • And especially so again here,
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  • Is every single thing you're dealing with
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  • Is something, honestly, i've dealt with in my life.
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  • But before we get to the individual giants,
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  • I wanted to ask you:
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  • So many people say to me, "if i love god,
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  • Why is life so hard?"
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  • Why can't god make life easy?
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  • Why do we face so many issues in life?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, life is filled with problems.
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  • There's no question about it.
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  • If you study the bible carefully,
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  • You will find out that there is a tremendous relationship
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  • Between pain and joy.
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  • James said it this way: "count it all joy
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  • When you fall into various trials."
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  • I mean, that sounds almost like doublespeak.
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  • If you don't have trials, you can't ever have joy.
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  • If you don't have the black notes on your piano,
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  • You can't play harmony.
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  • None of us like that.
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  • But usually, if we're intuitive enough,
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  • We look back and we see how god used those problems
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  • To toughen us up and get us ready
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  • To do the things he's called us to do.
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  • I don't choose pain, but pain sometimes chooses me.
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  • Sheila: yeah, so let's dive in because each one of these giants
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  • Is something that i know whoever's listening
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  • Or watching this has dealt with in their life.
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  • Let's talk about fear, the number one.
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  • I mean, we live in a culture where sometimes people,
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  • When they wake up in the morning,
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  • They're almost scared to go outside.
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  • There's so much that's going on in life.
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  • And i wonder, just from your own years in ministry,
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  • Have you faced fears that were giants for you?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: people ask me when i had cancer, i was afraid.
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  • "were you afraid when you had cancer?"
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  • And i think absolutely i was.
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  • And it was interesting because i could isolate my fear
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  • During that time, and i wasn't afraid of dying.
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  • I was afraid of leaving my wife and my children.
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  • And, i mean, that sounds noble, but it's just the way it was.
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  • That's what i cared about most, and i was afraid.
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  • I remember some of those things,
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  • But i always remember that my fear was real,
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  • But it was ultimately replaced with a sense of god's presence
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  • And his peace.
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  • I remember one time i was getting ready to go into
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  • A really difficult test when i had lymphoma,
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  • And i wanted to pray.
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  • And i told donna, "honey, i can't pray.
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  • I'll just cry."
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  • So she said, "well, i can pray."
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  • And she prayed this incredible prayer.
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  • She didn't cry or anything.
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  • It was the most incredible prayer
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  • I think i've ever heard her pray.
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  • And it just gave me so much strength,
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  • And i just knew i was going to be okay.
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  • Sheila: and i think you talk about that, too,
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  • In this teaching series--
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  • About the fact that sometimes these giants,
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  • We actually can look back and see how god used those
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  • In our life, that they were almost a gift,
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  • They made us stronger.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: the bible tells us that we are not to be
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  • Creatures of fear.
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  • "fear not, for i am with you.
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  • Be not afraid, for i am your god."
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  • I think there's a healthy kind of fear,
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  • Which is a respect, but the scared kind of fear,
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  • That isn't something that god has for us
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  • Unless he's growing us up at a very high level.
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  • We are not to live our lives in fear.
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  • I don't think that's the will of god for us.
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  • Sheila: one of the other issues you talk about,
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  • One of the other giants is discouragement.
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  • And let's face it, life is tough.
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  • We're all going to face discouragement
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  • At some point in our life, some point in our week.
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  • How have you managed to handle discouragement?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: you know, sheila, i think that's
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  • Satan's favorite tool to use on me.
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  • Sheila: wow, really?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, i think that people who do what i do,
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  • People who are put together,
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  • Who are type a people like we are,
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  • They are more susceptible to that
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  • Because when you spend all your energy
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  • And you just go and go and go,
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  • You're going to have some hard days.
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  • Sheila: what do you do if you find yourself
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  • As a pastor of a large church, huge ministry worldwide,
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  • And you find yourself discouraged?
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  • What helps you?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, there's a wonderful text
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  • In the old testament about david,
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  • Who must have felt like we do sometimes.
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  • And i remember one time he got himself in a situation
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  • Where he left camp with a few of his men,
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  • And when he came back, all the wives were gone
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  • And the children were gone and he was left.
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  • And the bible says this: "and david encouraged himself
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  • In the lord."
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  • Sometimes you don't have anybody to do that,
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  • Especially if you're a pastor.
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  • Who do you go to?
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  • And i've learned how to encourage myself in the lord.
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  • Sheila: how do you do that?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: i do it through music.
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  • I love music, and music often ministers to my soul.
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  • And i have some songs that i can--when i hear that song,
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  • I remember when god used it to help me over a hard time
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  • When i was discouraged.
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  • My wife is a great encouragement to me.
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  • We often talk. i try to talk things out.
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  • Sometimes i just need to be alone in the scripture.
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  • And then, of course, we have wonderful friends too,
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  • Who are great encouragers to us.
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  • And i don't get discouraged a lot, but i probably have
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  • Two or three bouts a year when i get discouraged.
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  • Sheila: but now you have benji.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: oh, yes, now i have my benji, my dog.
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  • Sheila: okay, i want to talk about one of the things
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  • That i think is almost an epidemic in our culture,
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  • And that is loneliness.
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  • I sense that there's so many people through social media,
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  • They think they're connected,
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  • But they're really not connected.
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  • And as a pastor, how do you deal with the loneliness
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  • That you see in our culture?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, in our church,
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  • We really work hard at trying to get people
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  • Into small groups and to network with people.
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  • And they're not doing this over the internet.
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  • They're sitting there.
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  • One of the things that happens in a church like ours
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  • In southern california, especially with young couples,
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  • Is usually both of them work, if they have children.
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  • We were trying to get them into small groups,
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  • And we weren't doing very well.
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  • So, my son-in-law, emmanuel sanchez, had the idea,
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  • Let's do small groups on sunday morning
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  • Like sunday school.
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  • They literally have a small group experience.
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  • Somebody teaches for a little while,
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  • They have a small group experience,
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  • And while they're doing that, their kids are in sunday school,
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  • Their children are in the nursery downstairs,
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  • In the same building.
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  • I can't tell you what that's meant.
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  • You know, we have a lot of military couples in our church.
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  • And i have had many, many conversations
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  • With these couples, saying,
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  • "you cannot know what a lifesaver that was.
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  • It connected us."
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  • You know, we have to work hard at connecting people
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  • In our church.
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  • If we don't do that, the church size itself
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  • Is so intimidating, it causes people to feel
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  • A great loneliness that they wouldn't otherwise feel.
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  • Sheila: wow, that's very encouraging.
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  • One of the other giants you talk about that i think is huge
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  • Is worry.
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  • Knowing that we were going to be talking about this,
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  • I googled worry and anxiety and was blown away
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  • By the number of studies being conducted worldwide,
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  • The medications, the solutions.
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  • Why do you think that anxiety is such an epidemic
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  • At the moment?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, obviously, the ultimate answer for that
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  • Is the absence of god creates anxiety.
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  • And of course, we're living more and more in a godless culture.
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  • It's created the opioid crisis.
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  • And i mean, you look at that whole problem
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  • And it's kind of at the center of a lot of presenting problems.
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  • But here's what the bible says.
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  • The bible says, "be anxious for nothing,
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  • But in everything by prayer and supplication,
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  • Let your requests be made known unto god."
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  • I don't think we should forget either that at the end of that
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  • It says, "and when you think, think positive thoughts."
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  • And then we have a whole list of positive things we're to think.
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  • And the interesting thing is-- i don't know if people realize--
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  • The bible says we're to encourage one another.
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  • That means we're to pour courage into other people.
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  • That's what it means. to encourage people.
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  • We're empty of courage.
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  • So when you encourage somebody, you take some of your courage
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  • And you pour it into that person.
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  • Sheila: one of the issues that i often deal with
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  • When i'm speaking to young women
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  • Is the issue, the giant of guilt,
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  • Of something that they've done that they can't undo,
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  • Something that's in the past.
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  • Why would you speak to the giant of guilt,
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  • Of something that you can't take away?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, first of all, sheila,
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  • We must understand that that giant is real.
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  • It's almost as real as if it were physically present
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  • With you.
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  • If you read david's description of his guilt in psalm 32
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  • And psalm 51, it is riveting.
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  • It affected his bones, you know, and he said he was broken.
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  • And until he came and confessed it,
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  • He suffered greatly.
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  • What i try to help people understand is this--
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  • You mentioned that sometimes they can't forgive themselves.
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  • And it's interesting that there is no place in the bible
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  • Where it ever says anything about us forgiving ourselves.
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  • Sheila: wow, i've never thought of that.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: and i would say, do you believe god forgave you?
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  • "yeah."
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  • And so you can't feel forgiven
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  • Because you haven't forgiven yourself.
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  • Doesn't that seem like your standard of forgiveness
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  • Is higher than god's?
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  • And they'll look, "well, i don't know."
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  • I say, "listen to me.
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  • God forgives completely, fully, unconditionally.
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  • And when god forgives, you are forgiven.
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  • Now, you have to keep reminding yourself over and over again
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  • That you're forgiven by the highest authority
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  • In the forever world."
  • 00:14:00.713 --> 00:14:02.214
  • You know, i think it's a tool of the enemy
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  • To think that we're in charge of forgiving ourselves.
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  • I mean, i understand that.
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  • But the issue is that the great forgiver is god, not us.
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  • Sheila: i've never heard anyone say that--
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  • That there's nothing in scripture that says
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  • We're supposed to forgive ourselves,
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  • Rather receive god's forgiveness.
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  • That's powerful.
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  • Kind of in the same vein, i want us to look at
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  • The giant of temptation.
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  • Is it a sin to be tempted?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, it can't be, because jesus was tempted.
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  • And the bible actually says, "he was tempted in all points
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  • Such as we are, yet without sin."
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  • When the devil took him into the wilderness and tempted him,
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  • He did not sin.
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  • It is not a sin to be tempted.
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  • It is a sin to yield to temptation.
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  • Temptation is hearing a knock at the door,
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  • But yielding is opening the door and letting it in.
  • 00:14:52.164 --> 00:14:55.234
  • So, to be tempted is not to be sinful,
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  • But to yield to the temptation, that's sinful.
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  • Sheila: so, what would you say to someone who struggles with
  • 00:15:02.408 --> 00:15:04.810
  • Something like online pornography or alcohol
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  • Or something that they know as a believer they shouldn't
  • 00:15:07.947 --> 00:15:11.150
  • But they keep being tempted?
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  • What do they do at that moment?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, let me just tell you,
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  • The foundational passage of scripture is
  • 00:15:16.388 --> 00:15:18.590
  • 1 corinthians 10:13.
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  • It says, "there has no temptation taken you,
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  • But such as is common to man;
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  • But god is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted
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  • Above that you are able,
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  • But will with the temptation also provide a way of escape."
  • 00:15:30.536 --> 00:15:34.173
  • So what that means is that the idea that i am so tempted
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  • I cannot be victorious--
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  • That's not true, and there are strategies.
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  • For instance, a guy came to me one time and he told me
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  • There was a girl that worked kind of, like, next to him.
  • 00:15:50.155 --> 00:15:52.458
  • And he was--they were at the beginning
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  • Of getting involved with each other
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  • In ways that they shouldn't.
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  • And i said, "well, are you serious about this?
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  • You're married, you've got a family,
  • 00:16:01.066 --> 00:16:02.401
  • You don't want this to happen?"
  • 00:16:02.401 --> 00:16:03.736
  • I said, "well, then you should get another job."
  • 00:16:03.736 --> 00:16:05.437
  • And he was "what? get another job?"
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  • I said, "there's only one way you can be victorious
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  • Over sexual temptation.
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  • And the bible says you're to flee from it."
  • 00:16:13.479 --> 00:16:16.015
  • It's one of the few things in the bible
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  • We're told to run away from.
  • 00:16:17.416 --> 00:16:19.318
  • And then i like to use the illustration of joseph,
  • 00:16:19.318 --> 00:16:22.354
  • Who was tempted by potiphar's wife,
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  • And the bible says he "ran out of the house."
  • 00:16:24.189 --> 00:16:27.393
  • So there are some things in the bible about temptation.
  • 00:16:27.393 --> 00:16:31.096
  • It's important to know that temptation is not a sin.
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  • To be tempted is not a sin.
  • 00:16:34.266 --> 00:16:36.135
  • But if you begin to coddle it and yield to it,
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  • That's when sin enters.
  • 00:16:39.371 --> 00:16:41.073
  • Sheila: right, one of the giants
  • 00:16:41.073 --> 00:16:42.408
  • That seems to be gaining momentum
  • 00:16:42.408 --> 00:16:44.176
  • In our culture at the moment is anger.
  • 00:16:44.176 --> 00:16:46.745
  • We seem to be living in a very angry world.
  • 00:16:46.745 --> 00:16:49.681
  • You turn on the tv and you see things about road rage.
  • 00:16:49.681 --> 00:16:53.552
  • But it's interesting, you point out
  • 00:16:53.552 --> 00:16:54.953
  • In your teaching series that scripture says
  • 00:16:54.953 --> 00:16:57.322
  • That not all anger is bad,
  • 00:16:57.322 --> 00:17:00.092
  • That there can be a place for righteous anger.
  • 00:17:00.092 --> 00:17:03.429
  • Dr. jeremiah: actually, the bible says,
  • 00:17:03.429 --> 00:17:04.763
  • "be angry and sin not."
  • 00:17:04.763 --> 00:17:07.800
  • And then i love this-- the bible says,
  • 00:17:07.800 --> 00:17:09.668
  • "don't let the sun go down on your anger."
  • 00:17:09.668 --> 00:17:12.571
  • And i heard about a guy who said, "yeah," he said,
  • 00:17:12.571 --> 00:17:14.440
  • "we really practice at our house and we haven't slept
  • 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:16.975
  • For two weeks."
  • 00:17:16.975 --> 00:17:18.310
  • You know, so, it's so interesting
  • 00:17:18.310 --> 00:17:20.679
  • How practical the word of god is:
  • 00:17:20.679 --> 00:17:22.314
  • That one thing--don't let the sun go down on your anger.
  • 00:17:22.314 --> 00:17:25.250
  • Sheila: something that i've noticed--
  • 00:17:25.250 --> 00:17:26.585
  • And perhaps sometimes more with women than men--
  • 00:17:26.585 --> 00:17:28.854
  • Is the giant of resentment.
  • 00:17:28.854 --> 00:17:31.857
  • Kind of related to anger,
  • 00:17:31.857 --> 00:17:33.192
  • But how would you define resentment?
  • 00:17:33.192 --> 00:17:35.561
  • Dr. jeremiah: here's my definition of resentment:
  • 00:17:35.561 --> 00:17:37.563
  • Resentment is anger gone underground.
  • 00:17:37.563 --> 00:17:41.333
  • Resentment is anger you don't deal with,
  • 00:17:41.333 --> 00:17:43.035
  • And you stuff it down into your--in your spirit,
  • 00:17:43.035 --> 00:17:45.504
  • And it lays there, and it lays there, and it lays there.
  • 00:17:45.504 --> 00:17:47.739
  • And then in an unappropriate moment that you never dreamed
  • 00:17:47.739 --> 00:17:50.442
  • Was going to happen, boom, you explode,
  • 00:17:50.442 --> 00:17:53.378
  • And all that resentment comes out.
  • 00:17:53.378 --> 00:17:55.514
  • That's why if you don't deal with anger,
  • 00:17:55.514 --> 00:17:57.716
  • Anger turns into resentment.
  • 00:17:57.716 --> 00:17:59.618
  • Sheila: if someone is listening to this, watching this,
  • 00:17:59.618 --> 00:18:01.820
  • And they think, "yeah, that's absolutely me,"
  • 00:18:01.820 --> 00:18:04.156
  • How do you defeat the giant of resentment?
  • 00:18:04.156 --> 00:18:07.025
  • Dr. jeremiah: you know, in all of these things
  • 00:18:07.025 --> 00:18:08.360
  • We're talking about, sheila,
  • 00:18:08.360 --> 00:18:09.695
  • One of the main things is to be able to acknowledge it,
  • 00:18:09.695 --> 00:18:12.464
  • To be able to recognize it.
  • 00:18:12.464 --> 00:18:14.099
  • "why do i feel this way?
  • 00:18:14.099 --> 00:18:15.434
  • Why do i have this feeling in my heart?
  • 00:18:15.434 --> 00:18:17.136
  • Why am i so resentful?" and then try to isolate it.
  • 00:18:17.136 --> 00:18:21.273
  • You know, get it in a place where you can see it
  • 00:18:21.273 --> 00:18:23.308
  • In living color.
  • 00:18:23.308 --> 00:18:24.643
  • This is wrong.
  • 00:18:24.643 --> 00:18:27.146
  • How did this start? where did this come from?
  • 00:18:27.146 --> 00:18:29.615
  • And then just go and say, "god, help me with this.
  • 00:18:29.615 --> 00:18:31.984
  • Help me to get this."
  • 00:18:31.984 --> 00:18:33.318
  • And then sometimes if you have a resentment
  • 00:18:33.318 --> 00:18:35.554
  • That's because you haven't settled an issue,
  • 00:18:35.554 --> 00:18:37.923
  • You have to go back and settle that issue.
  • 00:18:37.923 --> 00:18:40.726
  • In the story of david, when he got near to the giant,
  • 00:18:40.726 --> 00:18:44.263
  • The bible says, "he ran toward him."
  • 00:18:44.263 --> 00:18:46.732
  • Sheila: isn't that amazing?
  • 00:18:46.732 --> 00:18:48.066
  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, and so what he was doing is
  • 00:18:48.066 --> 00:18:49.768
  • He wasn't going to wait till the giant came to him.
  • 00:18:49.768 --> 00:18:52.504
  • He went to the giant and had victory.
  • 00:18:52.504 --> 00:18:55.707
  • Sheila: but that's one of the things
  • 00:18:55.707 --> 00:18:57.042
  • That is throughout every session of this teaching series of you.
  • 00:18:57.042 --> 00:19:00.445
  • Your thing is these giants do exist,
  • 00:19:00.445 --> 00:19:02.848
  • But we don't run from them.
  • 00:19:02.848 --> 00:19:04.816
  • With the power of god, we run toward them.
  • 00:19:04.816 --> 00:19:07.986
  • So, let's talk about doubt.
  • 00:19:07.986 --> 00:19:09.755
  • You have an interesting take in your teaching on doubt--
  • 00:19:09.755 --> 00:19:12.791
  • That doubt is not always a bad thing.
  • 00:19:12.791 --> 00:19:16.128
  • Talk to us about that.
  • 00:19:16.128 --> 00:19:17.462
  • Dr. jeremiah: somebody once said,
  • 00:19:17.462 --> 00:19:18.797
  • "there is more faith in an honest doubt
  • 00:19:18.797 --> 00:19:21.733
  • Than in anything else you can ever have."
  • 00:19:21.733 --> 00:19:24.269
  • You know, many, many people that i know have become
  • 00:19:24.269 --> 00:19:26.972
  • Greatly gifted and strong apologetic teachers,
  • 00:19:26.972 --> 00:19:30.676
  • And it started with doubt.
  • 00:19:30.676 --> 00:19:32.244
  • Because when you have doubt, what do you want to do?
  • 00:19:32.244 --> 00:19:34.046
  • You want to find out, why do i-- is this true or is it not?
  • 00:19:34.046 --> 00:19:38.483
  • And i love the story of thomas who, you know, he said,
  • 00:19:38.483 --> 00:19:41.220
  • "unless i see this, i won't believe."
  • 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:43.722
  • Doubt drives you to find answers,
  • 00:19:43.722 --> 00:19:47.392
  • If you don't just stuff it down in your spirit
  • 00:19:47.392 --> 00:19:50.262
  • And walk away from it, when you face it.
  • 00:19:50.262 --> 00:19:52.531
  • And i'll be honest with you: you cannot really have been
  • 00:19:52.531 --> 00:19:55.434
  • A christian for very long that you're gonna have moments
  • 00:19:55.434 --> 00:19:57.569
  • Where you think "what if this isn't true?
  • 00:19:57.569 --> 00:20:00.973
  • You know, what if all this that i've given my life,
  • 00:20:00.973 --> 00:20:03.275
  • What if it's not true?"
  • 00:20:03.275 --> 00:20:04.676
  • And then you go back and you find in the scripture
  • 00:20:04.676 --> 00:20:08.347
  • It is true.
  • 00:20:08.347 --> 00:20:09.681
  • We know it's true. it is absolutely true.
  • 00:20:09.681 --> 00:20:12.251
  • But sometimes those doubts come, and they drive you to greater
  • 00:20:12.251 --> 00:20:16.388
  • Faith and greater belief.
  • 00:20:16.388 --> 00:20:17.956
  • Sheila: so have you had moments like that
  • 00:20:17.956 --> 00:20:19.291
  • In your own life?
  • 00:20:19.291 --> 00:20:20.626
  • Dr. jeremiah: i've had some times
  • 00:20:20.626 --> 00:20:21.960
  • When i've doubted, yeah.
  • 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:23.295
  • Sheila: wow, i think that's a tremendous encouragement
  • 00:20:23.295 --> 00:20:24.630
  • To people, dr. jeremiah,
  • 00:20:24.630 --> 00:20:26.164
  • Because of your years in ministry.
  • 00:20:26.164 --> 00:20:28.634
  • But you say that not to be afraid of doubts.
  • 00:20:28.634 --> 00:20:31.536
  • Dr. jeremiah: doubt is not evil
  • 00:20:31.536 --> 00:20:34.840
  • Unless you let it become your whole life.
  • 00:20:34.840 --> 00:20:37.743
  • Sheila: one of the giants that you talked about--
  • 00:20:37.743 --> 00:20:39.378
  • I found it interesting
  • 00:20:39.378 --> 00:20:40.712
  • Because i'm not sure everyone would see this
  • 00:20:40.712 --> 00:20:43.181
  • As a spiritual issue, and that's procrastination.
  • 00:20:43.181 --> 00:20:48.253
  • Why is that important?
  • 00:20:48.253 --> 00:20:50.188
  • Dr. jeremiah: here's what i believe:
  • 00:20:50.188 --> 00:20:52.557
  • That the time between when god tells you to do something
  • 00:20:52.557 --> 00:20:56.995
  • And when you do it, that time belongs to the devil.
  • 00:20:56.995 --> 00:21:03.235
  • And i really have come to understand that over the years--
  • 00:21:03.235 --> 00:21:05.637
  • That when god says, "do this," you do it.
  • 00:21:05.637 --> 00:21:08.273
  • And every minute that you don't obey,
  • 00:21:08.273 --> 00:21:10.909
  • You open the door to the enemy to come in
  • 00:21:10.909 --> 00:21:12.978
  • So that ultimately he pushes you away
  • 00:21:12.978 --> 00:21:15.414
  • And you don't do it.
  • 00:21:15.414 --> 00:21:17.215
  • And the older we get, the more that we know when god tells you
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  • To do something, you do it as quickly as you can.
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  • Sheila: let me just tell you that has really spoken
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  • To me because, yeah, sometimes it's easy to think,
  • 00:21:24.956 --> 00:21:27.292
  • "well, i'll do that tomorrow" or "i'll get to that."
  • 00:21:27.292 --> 00:21:30.662
  • But in essence, that's disobedience really.
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  • Okay, i think one of the greatest giants that we face
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  • Is failure, the fear of failing.
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  • And i was wondering, in all your years of studying
  • 00:21:41.373 --> 00:21:43.508
  • The word of god, is there a passage of scripture
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  • That has been the most helpful to you in dealing with that?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, obviously, the great experiment in failure
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  • Is peter's failure and his denial of the lord.
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  • And when you get to john 21 and you see the lord jesus
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  • Embracing him in his failure,
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  • And just as he failed three times,
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  • He recommissions him three times.
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  • He sits down at breakfast with him,
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  • He loves on him and restores him.
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  • Several things are true about this, sheila.
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  • When you fail, you don't become a failure.
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  • You know, all of us fail at something.
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  • We're always failing at something.
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  • Failure is never final unless you let it be.
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  • I remember a book erwin lutzer wrote
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  • That was one of my favorite books
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  • For a number of months.
  • 00:22:36.728 --> 00:22:38.063
  • It was called "failure: the back door to success."
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  • Sheila: oh, that's a great title.
  • 00:22:40.699 --> 00:22:42.033
  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, and it was like how sometimes
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  • The things we fail at,
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  • God uses to take us to a bigger victory.
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  • Sheila: the very last giant that you discuss in this series
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  • Is the giant of jealousy.
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  • And i think in our day of social media,
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  • Where people look at photographs of, you know,
  • 00:22:59.050 --> 00:23:01.286
  • People in their perfect moments with three filters over them,
  • 00:23:01.286 --> 00:23:05.157
  • It's very easy for jealousy to kind of slip in
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  • And you think that everybody's life is better than your life.
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  • How do you deal with that giant of jealousy that's so insidious?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, you're absolutely right
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  • About that whole thing, especially with kids.
  • 00:23:17.035 --> 00:23:18.637
  • But one of the things they deal with is
  • 00:23:18.637 --> 00:23:21.373
  • They see themselves against the touched-up pictures
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  • Of their friends,
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  • And they never feel like they can ever--
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  • And so they become jealous.
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  • And their jealousy often ends up in bullying.
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  • One of the things we've tried to address in our school this year
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  • Is that issue--respecting god, respecting your parents,
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  • Respecting the administrators, respecting your teachers,
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  • And respecting the internet.
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  • And we've seen some tremendous changes in that regard.
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  • Do we still have some bullying? yes.
  • 00:23:48.900 --> 00:23:51.736
  • But the jealousy that comes about--
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  • And i write in this book,
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  • I write about how jealousy travels in circles.
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  • I have honestly never been tempted to be jealous
  • 00:23:59.678 --> 00:24:03.882
  • Of michael sanchez because he can sing better than i can,
  • 00:24:03.882 --> 00:24:07.486
  • Because i don't want in that circle.
  • 00:24:07.486 --> 00:24:09.588
  • But i would be tempted to be jealous of chuck swindoll,
  • 00:24:09.588 --> 00:24:13.258
  • Because he does what i do.
  • 00:24:13.258 --> 00:24:15.293
  • So jealousy finds you in the areas of your strength,
  • 00:24:15.293 --> 00:24:18.930
  • And that's where you have to be wise.
  • 00:24:18.930 --> 00:24:21.266
  • There's a lot in the bible about jealousy.
  • 00:24:21.266 --> 00:24:23.602
  • First of all, god is a jealous god,
  • 00:24:23.602 --> 00:24:26.171
  • But that's righteous jealousy.
  • 00:24:26.171 --> 00:24:28.540
  • Somebody asked me one time, "what's the difference
  • 00:24:28.540 --> 00:24:30.475
  • Between envy and jealousy?"
  • 00:24:30.475 --> 00:24:33.111
  • Jealousy is the way you feel about other people.
  • 00:24:33.111 --> 00:24:36.047
  • Envy is the way you feel about other things.
  • 00:24:36.047 --> 00:24:38.783
  • You're envious of this, you're envious of that.
  • 00:24:38.783 --> 00:24:41.853
  • But when you're jealous, you have a person in your focus,
  • 00:24:41.853 --> 00:24:45.924
  • And you're jealous of that person.
  • 00:24:45.924 --> 00:24:47.893
  • And i've seen that destroy people.
  • 00:24:47.893 --> 00:24:50.695
  • Sheila: so how, as a believer,
  • 00:24:50.695 --> 00:24:52.864
  • Do you let joy outweigh jealousy?
  • 00:24:52.864 --> 00:24:56.201
  • If you look at somebody, i'm thinking of not just kids
  • 00:24:56.201 --> 00:24:58.670
  • But, you know, anybody who thinks
  • 00:24:58.670 --> 00:25:00.939
  • That "their life looks better than my life"--
  • 00:25:00.939 --> 00:25:03.341
  • How as a believer do you let the weight of joy
  • 00:25:03.341 --> 00:25:06.611
  • Be greater than the weight of jealousy?
  • 00:25:06.611 --> 00:25:08.446
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, joy is not happiness.
  • 00:25:08.446 --> 00:25:12.217
  • Joy is a relationship.
  • 00:25:12.217 --> 00:25:14.352
  • And joy is based upon your relationship with jesus christ.
  • 00:25:14.352 --> 00:25:19.024
  • And when you have a wholesome relationship with jesus christ,
  • 00:25:19.024 --> 00:25:22.694
  • You're aware of the fact that god made you special,
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  • And he has a special plan for your life,
  • 00:25:27.165 --> 00:25:29.401
  • And that you're here on this earth
  • 00:25:29.401 --> 00:25:32.270
  • Because god carved you out in his plan and put you here.
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  • So, you shouldn't be jealous of somebody else
  • 00:25:37.542 --> 00:25:39.945
  • Because you didn't come here to do that.
  • 00:25:39.945 --> 00:25:41.980
  • You came here to do this.
  • 00:25:41.980 --> 00:25:43.782
  • Jealousy is our unwillingness to accept
  • 00:25:43.782 --> 00:25:46.551
  • That god has something special for us
  • 00:25:46.551 --> 00:25:49.254
  • And we get our eyes off on somebody else.
  • 00:25:49.254 --> 00:25:52.557
  • For instance, the pastor of the largest church in the world,
  • 00:25:52.557 --> 00:25:55.527
  • His name is satish kumar, and he pastors the church in india,
  • 00:25:55.527 --> 00:25:58.630
  • Where i went a few months back.
  • 00:25:58.630 --> 00:26:00.799
  • Believe it or not, they had 300,000 people
  • 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.468
  • At their christmas service.
  • 00:26:03.468 --> 00:26:05.003
  • Sheila: oh my gosh.
  • 00:26:05.003 --> 00:26:06.338
  • Dr. jeremiah: i went to that church,
  • 00:26:06.338 --> 00:26:07.706
  • And i preached five times.
  • 00:26:07.706 --> 00:26:09.040
  • I preached to 200,000 people in one day.
  • 00:26:09.040 --> 00:26:11.142
  • I saw these hordes of people, and i'm thinking,
  • 00:26:11.142 --> 00:26:14.679
  • "why is this happening to this guy?"
  • 00:26:14.679 --> 00:26:17.382
  • You know, "why hasn't this happened to me?"
  • 00:26:17.382 --> 00:26:19.484
  • And then i got home and god said, "you know what, david?
  • 00:26:19.484 --> 00:26:22.387
  • I didn't ask you to preach in a place to 300,000 people.
  • 00:26:22.387 --> 00:26:27.659
  • I asked you to do what you do through the media."
  • 00:26:27.659 --> 00:26:30.795
  • When we get our eyes off of what god's doing for us
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  • And on what he's doing for somebody else,
  • 00:26:33.665 --> 00:26:35.266
  • We can get jaundiced.
  • 00:26:35.266 --> 00:26:37.102
  • And i don't care how old we are or how long we've been doing it,
  • 00:26:37.102 --> 00:26:41.573
  • That'll always be an issue that we have to deal with.
  • 00:26:41.573 --> 00:26:44.209
  • Sheila: well, i have to say, i love this series.
  • 00:26:44.209 --> 00:26:46.544
  • It's profound. it's very practical.
  • 00:26:46.544 --> 00:26:48.980
  • Do you have just a final word that you would like to say?
  • 00:26:48.980 --> 00:26:52.384
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, i want to tell you
  • 00:26:52.384 --> 00:26:53.718
  • That the same thing god did for david,
  • 00:26:53.718 --> 00:26:55.820
  • He wants to do for all of us.
  • 00:26:55.820 --> 00:26:58.289
  • David came before the giant, and he said to the giant,
  • 00:26:58.289 --> 00:27:01.793
  • "you come to me in your own strength,
  • 00:27:01.793 --> 00:27:03.528
  • But i come to you in the name of the lord god of israel."
  • 00:27:03.528 --> 00:27:08.333
  • We can't face our giants, sheila, in our own strength.
  • 00:27:08.333 --> 00:27:11.536
  • That's the world's way.
  • 00:27:11.536 --> 00:27:13.271
  • Our giants are probably not going to get solved
  • 00:27:13.271 --> 00:27:15.440
  • At the secular counselor's office.
  • 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.176
  • But when we face our giants in the name of the lord,
  • 00:27:18.176 --> 00:27:22.147
  • In the power of his might,
  • 00:27:22.147 --> 00:27:24.115
  • We can have the same victory that david had.
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  • Sheila walsh: well, this is a really fun place to be.
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  • We've been in some amazing locations, but this,
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  • I mean, this is like some kind of ancient castle
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  • That we're in, which seems very appropriate
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  • We're gonna talk about some of the particular giants.
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  • But i wonder, first of all, why do you call them giants?
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  • Dr. david jeremiah: well, you know,
  • 00:32:45.403 --> 00:32:46.738
  • I think this probably started, sheila,
  • 00:32:46.738 --> 00:32:48.072
  • When i was studying the life of david,
  • 00:32:48.072 --> 00:32:49.540
  • Of course, the famous story of david and goliath.
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  • And we love that story, and it speaks to us.
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  • But i really wanted to concentrate on the giants
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  • That we face in our culture today
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  • And how they're just as big to us as a 9'6" giant
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  • Was to david.
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  • Sheila: one of the things i love about your teaching,
  • 00:33:05.223 --> 00:33:07.158
  • And especially so again here,
  • 00:33:07.158 --> 00:33:09.327
  • Is every single thing you're dealing with
  • 00:33:09.327 --> 00:33:11.329
  • Is something, honestly, i've dealt with in my life.
  • 00:33:11.329 --> 00:33:14.098
  • But before we get to the individual giants,
  • 00:33:14.098 --> 00:33:16.501
  • I wanted to ask you:
  • 00:33:16.501 --> 00:33:18.069
  • So many people say to me, "if i love god,
  • 00:33:18.069 --> 00:33:20.938
  • Why is life so hard?"
  • 00:33:20.938 --> 00:33:22.540
  • Why can't god make life easy?
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  • Why do we face so many issues in life?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, life is filled with problems.
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  • There's no question about it.
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  • If you study the bible carefully,
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  • You will find out that there is a tremendous relationship
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  • Between pain and joy.
  • 00:33:37.121 --> 00:33:40.525
  • James said it this way: "count it all joy
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  • When you fall into various trials."
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  • I mean, that sounds almost like doublespeak.
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  • If you don't have trials, you can't ever have joy.
  • 00:33:48.833 --> 00:33:52.336
  • If you don't have the black notes on your piano,
  • 00:33:52.336 --> 00:33:55.206
  • You can't play harmony.
  • 00:33:55.206 --> 00:33:57.141
  • None of us like that.
  • 00:33:57.141 --> 00:33:58.609
  • But usually, if we're intuitive enough,
  • 00:33:58.609 --> 00:34:01.179
  • We look back and we see how god used those problems
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  • To toughen us up and get us ready
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  • To do the things he's called us to do.
  • 00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.188
  • I don't choose pain, but pain sometimes chooses me.
  • 00:34:10.188 --> 00:34:13.658
  • Sheila: yeah, so let's dive in because each one of these giants
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  • Is something that i know whoever's listening
  • 00:34:17.061 --> 00:34:20.031
  • Or watching this has dealt with in their life.
  • 00:34:20.031 --> 00:34:21.365
  • Let's talk about fear, the number one.
  • 00:34:21.365 --> 00:34:24.569
  • I mean, we live in a culture where sometimes people,
  • 00:34:24.569 --> 00:34:26.771
  • When they wake up in the morning,
  • 00:34:26.771 --> 00:34:28.106
  • They're almost scared to go outside.
  • 00:34:28.106 --> 00:34:29.907
  • There's so much that's going on in life.
  • 00:34:29.907 --> 00:34:32.510
  • And i wonder, just from your own years in ministry,
  • 00:34:32.510 --> 00:34:36.180
  • Have you faced fears that were giants for you?
  • 00:34:36.180 --> 00:34:39.550
  • Dr. jeremiah: people ask me when i had cancer, i was afraid.
  • 00:34:39.550 --> 00:34:43.621
  • "were you afraid when you had cancer?"
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  • And i think absolutely i was.
  • 00:34:45.256 --> 00:34:47.391
  • And it was interesting because i could isolate my fear
  • 00:34:47.391 --> 00:34:50.261
  • During that time, and i wasn't afraid of dying.
  • 00:34:50.261 --> 00:34:53.498
  • I was afraid of leaving my wife and my children.
  • 00:34:53.498 --> 00:34:56.100
  • And, i mean, that sounds noble, but it's just the way it was.
  • 00:34:56.100 --> 00:34:58.903
  • That's what i cared about most, and i was afraid.
  • 00:34:58.903 --> 00:35:01.506
  • I remember some of those things,
  • 00:35:01.506 --> 00:35:03.107
  • But i always remember that my fear was real,
  • 00:35:03.107 --> 00:35:09.447
  • But it was ultimately replaced with a sense of god's presence
  • 00:35:09.447 --> 00:35:13.317
  • And his peace.
  • 00:35:13.317 --> 00:35:14.852
  • I remember one time i was getting ready to go into
  • 00:35:14.852 --> 00:35:17.522
  • A really difficult test when i had lymphoma,
  • 00:35:17.522 --> 00:35:22.193
  • And i wanted to pray.
  • 00:35:22.193 --> 00:35:24.362
  • And i told donna, "honey, i can't pray.
  • 00:35:24.362 --> 00:35:27.632
  • I'll just cry."
  • 00:35:27.632 --> 00:35:29.634
  • So she said, "well, i can pray."
  • 00:35:29.634 --> 00:35:31.068
  • And she prayed this incredible prayer.
  • 00:35:31.068 --> 00:35:33.538
  • She didn't cry or anything.
  • 00:35:33.538 --> 00:35:35.239
  • It was the most incredible prayer
  • 00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:36.807
  • I think i've ever heard her pray.
  • 00:35:36.807 --> 00:35:38.776
  • And it just gave me so much strength,
  • 00:35:38.776 --> 00:35:41.145
  • And i just knew i was going to be okay.
  • 00:35:41.145 --> 00:35:44.182
  • Sheila: and i think you talk about that, too,
  • 00:35:44.182 --> 00:35:45.516
  • In this teaching series--
  • 00:35:45.516 --> 00:35:47.051
  • About the fact that sometimes these giants,
  • 00:35:47.051 --> 00:35:49.954
  • We actually can look back and see how god used those
  • 00:35:49.954 --> 00:35:52.590
  • In our life, that they were almost a gift,
  • 00:35:52.590 --> 00:35:54.625
  • They made us stronger.
  • 00:35:54.625 --> 00:35:56.827
  • Dr. jeremiah: the bible tells us that we are not to be
  • 00:35:56.827 --> 00:35:59.063
  • Creatures of fear.
  • 00:35:59.063 --> 00:36:00.398
  • "fear not, for i am with you.
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  • Be not afraid, for i am your god."
  • 00:36:01.999 --> 00:36:04.902
  • I think there's a healthy kind of fear,
  • 00:36:04.902 --> 00:36:06.938
  • Which is a respect, but the scared kind of fear,
  • 00:36:06.938 --> 00:36:10.541
  • That isn't something that god has for us
  • 00:36:10.541 --> 00:36:12.944
  • Unless he's growing us up at a very high level.
  • 00:36:12.944 --> 00:36:16.047
  • We are not to live our lives in fear.
  • 00:36:16.047 --> 00:36:18.249
  • I don't think that's the will of god for us.
  • 00:36:18.249 --> 00:36:20.718
  • Sheila: one of the other issues you talk about,
  • 00:36:20.718 --> 00:36:22.420
  • One of the other giants is discouragement.
  • 00:36:22.420 --> 00:36:25.790
  • And let's face it, life is tough.
  • 00:36:25.790 --> 00:36:27.425
  • We're all going to face discouragement
  • 00:36:27.425 --> 00:36:29.660
  • At some point in our life, some point in our week.
  • 00:36:29.660 --> 00:36:32.597
  • How have you managed to handle discouragement?
  • 00:36:32.597 --> 00:36:35.866
  • Dr. jeremiah: you know, sheila, i think that's
  • 00:36:35.866 --> 00:36:37.201
  • Satan's favorite tool to use on me.
  • 00:36:37.201 --> 00:36:40.238
  • Sheila: wow, really?
  • 00:36:40.238 --> 00:36:41.572
  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, i think that people who do what i do,
  • 00:36:41.572 --> 00:36:43.975
  • People who are put together,
  • 00:36:43.975 --> 00:36:45.576
  • Who are type a people like we are,
  • 00:36:45.576 --> 00:36:47.945
  • They are more susceptible to that
  • 00:36:47.945 --> 00:36:50.248
  • Because when you spend all your energy
  • 00:36:50.248 --> 00:36:52.683
  • And you just go and go and go,
  • 00:36:52.683 --> 00:36:54.151
  • You're going to have some hard days.
  • 00:36:54.151 --> 00:36:57.321
  • Sheila: what do you do if you find yourself
  • 00:36:57.321 --> 00:36:59.824
  • As a pastor of a large church, huge ministry worldwide,
  • 00:36:59.824 --> 00:37:03.661
  • And you find yourself discouraged?
  • 00:37:03.661 --> 00:37:05.429
  • What helps you?
  • 00:37:05.429 --> 00:37:06.764
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, there's a wonderful text
  • 00:37:06.764 --> 00:37:08.165
  • In the old testament about david,
  • 00:37:08.165 --> 00:37:09.834
  • Who must have felt like we do sometimes.
  • 00:37:09.834 --> 00:37:11.769
  • And i remember one time he got himself in a situation
  • 00:37:11.769 --> 00:37:15.539
  • Where he left camp with a few of his men,
  • 00:37:15.539 --> 00:37:18.175
  • And when he came back, all the wives were gone
  • 00:37:18.175 --> 00:37:20.478
  • And the children were gone and he was left.
  • 00:37:20.478 --> 00:37:22.813
  • And the bible says this: "and david encouraged himself
  • 00:37:22.813 --> 00:37:27.118
  • In the lord."
  • 00:37:27.118 --> 00:37:28.552
  • Sometimes you don't have anybody to do that,
  • 00:37:28.552 --> 00:37:31.322
  • Especially if you're a pastor.
  • 00:37:31.322 --> 00:37:33.124
  • Who do you go to?
  • 00:37:33.124 --> 00:37:34.458
  • And i've learned how to encourage myself in the lord.
  • 00:37:34.458 --> 00:37:36.861
  • Sheila: how do you do that?
  • 00:37:36.861 --> 00:37:38.195
  • Dr. jeremiah: i do it through music.
  • 00:37:38.195 --> 00:37:40.531
  • I love music, and music often ministers to my soul.
  • 00:37:40.531 --> 00:37:43.801
  • And i have some songs that i can--when i hear that song,
  • 00:37:43.801 --> 00:37:46.203
  • I remember when god used it to help me over a hard time
  • 00:37:46.203 --> 00:37:49.573
  • When i was discouraged.
  • 00:37:49.573 --> 00:37:51.108
  • My wife is a great encouragement to me.
  • 00:37:51.108 --> 00:37:54.278
  • We often talk. i try to talk things out.
  • 00:37:54.278 --> 00:37:56.747
  • Sometimes i just need to be alone in the scripture.
  • 00:37:56.747 --> 00:37:59.417
  • And then, of course, we have wonderful friends too,
  • 00:37:59.417 --> 00:38:02.053
  • Who are great encouragers to us.
  • 00:38:02.053 --> 00:38:03.888
  • And i don't get discouraged a lot, but i probably have
  • 00:38:03.888 --> 00:38:07.358
  • Two or three bouts a year when i get discouraged.
  • 00:38:07.358 --> 00:38:09.427
  • Sheila: but now you have benji.
  • 00:38:09.427 --> 00:38:10.761
  • Dr. jeremiah: oh, yes, now i have my benji, my dog.
  • 00:38:10.761 --> 00:38:14.932
  • Sheila: okay, i want to talk about one of the things
  • 00:38:14.932 --> 00:38:16.434
  • That i think is almost an epidemic in our culture,
  • 00:38:16.434 --> 00:38:19.704
  • And that is loneliness.
  • 00:38:19.704 --> 00:38:22.239
  • I sense that there's so many people through social media,
  • 00:38:22.239 --> 00:38:25.409
  • They think they're connected,
  • 00:38:25.409 --> 00:38:26.744
  • But they're really not connected.
  • 00:38:26.744 --> 00:38:28.312
  • And as a pastor, how do you deal with the loneliness
  • 00:38:28.312 --> 00:38:32.016
  • That you see in our culture?
  • 00:38:32.016 --> 00:38:33.351
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, in our church,
  • 00:38:33.351 --> 00:38:34.919
  • We really work hard at trying to get people
  • 00:38:34.919 --> 00:38:38.189
  • Into small groups and to network with people.
  • 00:38:38.189 --> 00:38:41.292
  • And they're not doing this over the internet.
  • 00:38:41.292 --> 00:38:42.626
  • They're sitting there.
  • 00:38:42.626 --> 00:38:43.961
  • One of the things that happens in a church like ours
  • 00:38:43.961 --> 00:38:46.297
  • In southern california, especially with young couples,
  • 00:38:46.297 --> 00:38:49.734
  • Is usually both of them work, if they have children.
  • 00:38:49.734 --> 00:38:53.938
  • We were trying to get them into small groups,
  • 00:38:53.938 --> 00:38:55.806
  • And we weren't doing very well.
  • 00:38:55.806 --> 00:38:57.842
  • So, my son-in-law, emmanuel sanchez, had the idea,
  • 00:38:57.842 --> 00:39:03.080
  • Let's do small groups on sunday morning
  • 00:39:03.080 --> 00:39:04.782
  • Like sunday school.
  • 00:39:04.782 --> 00:39:06.250
  • They literally have a small group experience.
  • 00:39:06.250 --> 00:39:08.452
  • Somebody teaches for a little while,
  • 00:39:08.452 --> 00:39:09.820
  • They have a small group experience,
  • 00:39:09.820 --> 00:39:11.389
  • And while they're doing that, their kids are in sunday school,
  • 00:39:11.389 --> 00:39:13.924
  • Their children are in the nursery downstairs,
  • 00:39:13.924 --> 00:39:16.160
  • In the same building.
  • 00:39:16.160 --> 00:39:17.962
  • I can't tell you what that's meant.
  • 00:39:17.962 --> 00:39:19.563
  • You know, we have a lot of military couples in our church.
  • 00:39:19.563 --> 00:39:21.699
  • And i have had many, many conversations
  • 00:39:21.699 --> 00:39:24.201
  • With these couples, saying,
  • 00:39:24.201 --> 00:39:25.603
  • "you cannot know what a lifesaver that was.
  • 00:39:25.603 --> 00:39:27.571
  • It connected us."
  • 00:39:27.571 --> 00:39:28.906
  • You know, we have to work hard at connecting people
  • 00:39:28.906 --> 00:39:30.941
  • In our church.
  • 00:39:30.941 --> 00:39:32.276
  • If we don't do that, the church size itself
  • 00:39:32.276 --> 00:39:35.212
  • Is so intimidating, it causes people to feel
  • 00:39:35.212 --> 00:39:38.716
  • A great loneliness that they wouldn't otherwise feel.
  • 00:39:38.716 --> 00:39:41.485
  • Sheila: wow, that's very encouraging.
  • 00:39:41.485 --> 00:39:43.320
  • One of the other giants you talk about that i think is huge
  • 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.490
  • Is worry.
  • 00:39:46.490 --> 00:39:48.392
  • Knowing that we were going to be talking about this,
  • 00:39:48.392 --> 00:39:50.327
  • I googled worry and anxiety and was blown away
  • 00:39:50.327 --> 00:39:52.830
  • By the number of studies being conducted worldwide,
  • 00:39:52.830 --> 00:39:56.367
  • The medications, the solutions.
  • 00:39:56.367 --> 00:39:58.803
  • Why do you think that anxiety is such an epidemic
  • 00:39:58.803 --> 00:40:03.140
  • At the moment?
  • 00:40:03.140 --> 00:40:04.475
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, obviously, the ultimate answer for that
  • 00:40:04.475 --> 00:40:06.510
  • Is the absence of god creates anxiety.
  • 00:40:06.510 --> 00:40:09.580
  • And of course, we're living more and more in a godless culture.
  • 00:40:09.580 --> 00:40:14.385
  • It's created the opioid crisis.
  • 00:40:14.385 --> 00:40:16.387
  • And i mean, you look at that whole problem
  • 00:40:16.387 --> 00:40:18.622
  • And it's kind of at the center of a lot of presenting problems.
  • 00:40:18.622 --> 00:40:21.992
  • But here's what the bible says.
  • 00:40:21.992 --> 00:40:23.694
  • The bible says, "be anxious for nothing,
  • 00:40:23.694 --> 00:40:27.431
  • But in everything by prayer and supplication,
  • 00:40:27.431 --> 00:40:29.900
  • Let your requests be made known unto god."
  • 00:40:29.900 --> 00:40:32.770
  • I don't think we should forget either that at the end of that
  • 00:40:32.770 --> 00:40:35.806
  • It says, "and when you think, think positive thoughts."
  • 00:40:35.806 --> 00:40:39.143
  • And then we have a whole list of positive things we're to think.
  • 00:40:39.143 --> 00:40:41.879
  • And the interesting thing is-- i don't know if people realize--
  • 00:40:41.879 --> 00:40:44.815
  • The bible says we're to encourage one another.
  • 00:40:44.815 --> 00:40:46.750
  • That means we're to pour courage into other people.
  • 00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:49.787
  • That's what it means. to encourage people.
  • 00:40:49.787 --> 00:40:51.989
  • We're empty of courage.
  • 00:40:51.989 --> 00:40:53.390
  • So when you encourage somebody, you take some of your courage
  • 00:40:53.390 --> 00:40:56.260
  • And you pour it into that person.
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  • Sheila: one of the issues that i often deal with
  • 00:42:28.152 --> 00:42:30.254
  • When i'm speaking to young women
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  • Is the issue, the giant of guilt,
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  • Of something that they've done that they can't undo,
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  • Something that's in the past.
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  • Why would you speak to the giant of guilt,
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  • Of something that you can't take away?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, first of all, sheila,
  • 00:42:44.401 --> 00:42:45.769
  • We must understand that that giant is real.
  • 00:42:45.769 --> 00:42:48.439
  • It's almost as real as if it were physically present
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  • With you.
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  • If you read david's description of his guilt in psalm 32
  • 00:42:53.377 --> 00:42:57.548
  • And psalm 51, it is riveting.
  • 00:42:57.548 --> 00:43:00.618
  • It affected his bones, you know, and he said he was broken.
  • 00:43:00.618 --> 00:43:05.456
  • And until he came and confessed it,
  • 00:43:05.456 --> 00:43:07.825
  • He suffered greatly.
  • 00:43:07.825 --> 00:43:09.793
  • What i try to help people understand is this--
  • 00:43:09.793 --> 00:43:12.062
  • You mentioned that sometimes they can't forgive themselves.
  • 00:43:12.062 --> 00:43:16.700
  • And it's interesting that there is no place in the bible
  • 00:43:16.700 --> 00:43:20.004
  • Where it ever says anything about us forgiving ourselves.
  • 00:43:20.004 --> 00:43:22.773
  • Sheila: wow, i've never thought of that.
  • 00:43:22.773 --> 00:43:24.375
  • Dr. jeremiah: and i would say, do you believe god forgave you?
  • 00:43:24.375 --> 00:43:27.444
  • "yeah."
  • 00:43:27.444 --> 00:43:28.779
  • And so you can't feel forgiven
  • 00:43:28.779 --> 00:43:31.415
  • Because you haven't forgiven yourself.
  • 00:43:31.415 --> 00:43:33.484
  • Doesn't that seem like your standard of forgiveness
  • 00:43:33.484 --> 00:43:36.253
  • Is higher than god's?
  • 00:43:36.253 --> 00:43:38.389
  • And they'll look, "well, i don't know."
  • 00:43:38.389 --> 00:43:39.923
  • I say, "listen to me.
  • 00:43:39.923 --> 00:43:41.258
  • God forgives completely, fully, unconditionally.
  • 00:43:41.258 --> 00:43:46.296
  • And when god forgives, you are forgiven.
  • 00:43:46.296 --> 00:43:49.199
  • Now, you have to keep reminding yourself over and over again
  • 00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:53.537
  • That you're forgiven by the highest authority
  • 00:43:53.537 --> 00:43:57.041
  • In the forever world."
  • 00:43:57.041 --> 00:43:58.542
  • You know, i think it's a tool of the enemy
  • 00:43:58.542 --> 00:44:00.344
  • To think that we're in charge of forgiving ourselves.
  • 00:44:00.344 --> 00:44:02.746
  • I mean, i understand that.
  • 00:44:02.746 --> 00:44:04.248
  • But the issue is that the great forgiver is god, not us.
  • 00:44:04.248 --> 00:44:10.320
  • Sheila: i've never heard anyone say that--
  • 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:11.655
  • That there's nothing in scripture that says
  • 00:44:11.655 --> 00:44:13.257
  • We're supposed to forgive ourselves,
  • 00:44:13.257 --> 00:44:15.192
  • Rather receive god's forgiveness.
  • 00:44:15.192 --> 00:44:17.928
  • That's powerful.
  • 00:44:17.928 --> 00:44:20.030
  • Kind of in the same vein, i want us to look at
  • 00:44:20.030 --> 00:44:22.366
  • The giant of temptation.
  • 00:44:22.366 --> 00:44:24.301
  • Is it a sin to be tempted?
  • 00:44:24.301 --> 00:44:26.603
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, it can't be, because jesus was tempted.
  • 00:44:26.603 --> 00:44:29.873
  • And the bible actually says, "he was tempted in all points
  • 00:44:29.873 --> 00:44:32.910
  • Such as we are, yet without sin."
  • 00:44:32.910 --> 00:44:35.546
  • When the devil took him into the wilderness and tempted him,
  • 00:44:35.546 --> 00:44:39.683
  • He did not sin.
  • 00:44:39.683 --> 00:44:41.018
  • It is not a sin to be tempted.
  • 00:44:41.018 --> 00:44:42.352
  • It is a sin to yield to temptation.
  • 00:44:42.352 --> 00:44:44.688
  • Temptation is hearing a knock at the door,
  • 00:44:44.688 --> 00:44:48.492
  • But yielding is opening the door and letting it in.
  • 00:44:48.492 --> 00:44:51.562
  • So, to be tempted is not to be sinful,
  • 00:44:51.562 --> 00:44:55.899
  • But to yield to the temptation, that's sinful.
  • 00:44:55.899 --> 00:44:58.736
  • Sheila: so, what would you say to someone who struggles with
  • 00:44:58.736 --> 00:45:01.138
  • Something like online pornography or alcohol
  • 00:45:01.138 --> 00:45:04.274
  • Or something that they know as a believer they shouldn't
  • 00:45:04.274 --> 00:45:07.478
  • But they keep being tempted?
  • 00:45:07.478 --> 00:45:09.113
  • What do they do at that moment?
  • 00:45:09.113 --> 00:45:11.381
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, let me just tell you,
  • 00:45:11.381 --> 00:45:12.716
  • The foundational passage of scripture is
  • 00:45:12.716 --> 00:45:14.918
  • 1 corinthians 10:13.
  • 00:45:14.918 --> 00:45:16.620
  • It says, "there has no temptation taken you,
  • 00:45:16.620 --> 00:45:20.190
  • But such as is common to man;
  • 00:45:20.190 --> 00:45:22.392
  • But god is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted
  • 00:45:22.392 --> 00:45:25.529
  • Above that you are able,
  • 00:45:25.529 --> 00:45:26.864
  • But will with the temptation also provide a way of escape."
  • 00:45:26.864 --> 00:45:30.501
  • So what that means is that the idea that i am so tempted
  • 00:45:30.501 --> 00:45:37.608
  • I cannot be victorious--
  • 00:45:37.608 --> 00:45:39.643
  • That's not true, and there are strategies.
  • 00:45:39.643 --> 00:45:43.747
  • For instance, a guy came to me one time and he told me
  • 00:45:43.747 --> 00:45:46.483
  • There was a girl that worked kind of, like, next to him.
  • 00:45:46.483 --> 00:45:48.786
  • And he was--they were at the beginning
  • 00:45:48.786 --> 00:45:50.888
  • Of getting involved with each other
  • 00:45:50.888 --> 00:45:52.923
  • In ways that they shouldn't.
  • 00:45:52.923 --> 00:45:54.591
  • And i said, "well, are you serious about this?
  • 00:45:54.591 --> 00:45:57.394
  • You're married, you've got a family,
  • 00:45:57.394 --> 00:45:58.729
  • You don't want this to happen?"
  • 00:45:58.729 --> 00:46:00.063
  • I said, "well, then you should get another job."
  • 00:46:00.063 --> 00:46:01.765
  • And he was "what? get another job?"
  • 00:46:01.765 --> 00:46:04.601
  • I said, "there's only one way you can be victorious
  • 00:46:04.601 --> 00:46:07.938
  • Over sexual temptation.
  • 00:46:07.938 --> 00:46:09.807
  • And the bible says you're to flee from it."
  • 00:46:09.807 --> 00:46:12.342
  • It's one of the few things in the bible
  • 00:46:12.342 --> 00:46:13.744
  • We're told to run away from.
  • 00:46:13.744 --> 00:46:15.646
  • And then i like to use the illustration of joseph,
  • 00:46:15.646 --> 00:46:18.682
  • Who was tempted by potiphar's wife,
  • 00:46:18.682 --> 00:46:20.517
  • And the bible says he "ran out of the house."
  • 00:46:20.517 --> 00:46:23.720
  • So there are some things in the bible about temptation.
  • 00:46:23.720 --> 00:46:27.424
  • It's important to know that temptation is not a sin.
  • 00:46:27.424 --> 00:46:30.594
  • To be tempted is not a sin.
  • 00:46:30.594 --> 00:46:32.462
  • But if you begin to coddle it and yield to it,
  • 00:46:32.462 --> 00:46:35.699
  • That's when sin enters.
  • 00:46:35.699 --> 00:46:37.401
  • Sheila: right, one of the giants
  • 00:46:37.401 --> 00:46:38.735
  • That seems to be gaining momentum
  • 00:46:38.735 --> 00:46:40.504
  • In our culture at the moment is anger.
  • 00:46:40.504 --> 00:46:43.073
  • We seem to be living in a very angry world.
  • 00:46:43.073 --> 00:46:46.009
  • You turn on the tv and you see things about road rage.
  • 00:46:46.009 --> 00:46:49.880
  • But it's interesting, you point out
  • 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:51.281
  • In your teaching series that scripture says
  • 00:46:51.281 --> 00:46:53.650
  • That not all anger is bad,
  • 00:46:53.650 --> 00:46:56.420
  • That there can be a place for righteous anger.
  • 00:46:56.420 --> 00:46:59.756
  • Dr. jeremiah: actually, the bible says,
  • 00:46:59.756 --> 00:47:01.091
  • "be angry and sin not."
  • 00:47:01.091 --> 00:47:04.127
  • And then i love this-- the bible says,
  • 00:47:04.127 --> 00:47:05.996
  • "don't let the sun go down on your anger."
  • 00:47:05.996 --> 00:47:08.899
  • And i heard about a guy who said, "yeah," he said,
  • 00:47:08.899 --> 00:47:10.767
  • "we really practice at our house and we haven't slept
  • 00:47:10.767 --> 00:47:13.303
  • For two weeks."
  • 00:47:13.303 --> 00:47:14.638
  • You know, so, it's so interesting
  • 00:47:14.638 --> 00:47:17.007
  • How practical the word of god is:
  • 00:47:17.007 --> 00:47:18.642
  • That one thing--don't let the sun go down on your anger.
  • 00:47:18.642 --> 00:47:21.578
  • Sheila: something that i've noticed--
  • 00:47:21.578 --> 00:47:22.913
  • And perhaps sometimes more with women than men--
  • 00:47:22.913 --> 00:47:25.182
  • Is the giant of resentment.
  • 00:47:25.182 --> 00:47:28.185
  • Kind of related to anger,
  • 00:47:28.185 --> 00:47:29.519
  • But how would you define resentment?
  • 00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.889
  • Dr. jeremiah: here's my definition of resentment:
  • 00:47:31.889 --> 00:47:33.891
  • Resentment is anger gone underground.
  • 00:47:33.891 --> 00:47:37.661
  • Resentment is anger you don't deal with,
  • 00:47:37.661 --> 00:47:39.363
  • And you stuff it down into your--in your spirit,
  • 00:47:39.363 --> 00:47:41.832
  • And it lays there, and it lays there, and it lays there.
  • 00:47:41.832 --> 00:47:44.067
  • And then in an unappropriate moment that you never dreamed
  • 00:47:44.067 --> 00:47:46.770
  • Was going to happen, boom, you explode,
  • 00:47:46.770 --> 00:47:49.706
  • And all that resentment comes out.
  • 00:47:49.706 --> 00:47:51.842
  • That's why if you don't deal with anger,
  • 00:47:51.842 --> 00:47:54.044
  • Anger turns into resentment.
  • 00:47:54.044 --> 00:47:55.946
  • Sheila: if someone is listening to this, watching this,
  • 00:47:55.946 --> 00:47:58.148
  • And they think, "yeah, that's absolutely me,"
  • 00:47:58.148 --> 00:48:00.484
  • How do you defeat the giant of resentment?
  • 00:48:00.484 --> 00:48:03.353
  • Dr. jeremiah: you know, in all of these things
  • 00:48:03.353 --> 00:48:04.688
  • We're talking about, sheila,
  • 00:48:04.688 --> 00:48:06.023
  • One of the main things is to be able to acknowledge it,
  • 00:48:06.023 --> 00:48:08.792
  • To be able to recognize it.
  • 00:48:08.792 --> 00:48:10.427
  • "why do i feel this way?
  • 00:48:10.427 --> 00:48:11.762
  • Why do i have this feeling in my heart?
  • 00:48:11.762 --> 00:48:13.463
  • Why am i so resentful?" and then try to isolate it.
  • 00:48:13.463 --> 00:48:17.601
  • You know, get it in a place where you can see it
  • 00:48:17.601 --> 00:48:19.636
  • In living color.
  • 00:48:19.636 --> 00:48:20.971
  • This is wrong.
  • 00:48:20.971 --> 00:48:23.473
  • How did this start? where did this come from?
  • 00:48:23.473 --> 00:48:25.943
  • And then just go and say, "god, help me with this.
  • 00:48:25.943 --> 00:48:28.312
  • Help me to get this."
  • 00:48:28.312 --> 00:48:29.646
  • And then sometimes if you have a resentment
  • 00:48:29.646 --> 00:48:31.882
  • That's because you haven't settled an issue,
  • 00:48:31.882 --> 00:48:34.251
  • You have to go back and settle that issue.
  • 00:48:34.251 --> 00:48:37.054
  • In the story of david, when he got near to the giant,
  • 00:48:37.054 --> 00:48:40.590
  • The bible says, "he ran toward him."
  • 00:48:40.590 --> 00:48:43.060
  • Sheila: isn't that amazing?
  • 00:48:43.060 --> 00:48:44.394
  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, and so what he was doing is
  • 00:48:44.394 --> 00:48:46.096
  • He wasn't going to wait till the giant came to him.
  • 00:48:46.096 --> 00:48:48.832
  • He went to the giant and had victory.
  • 00:48:48.832 --> 00:48:52.035
  • Sheila: but that's one of the things
  • 00:48:52.035 --> 00:48:53.370
  • That is throughout every session of this teaching series of you.
  • 00:48:53.370 --> 00:48:56.773
  • Your thing is these giants do exist,
  • 00:48:56.773 --> 00:48:59.176
  • But we don't run from them.
  • 00:48:59.176 --> 00:49:01.144
  • With the power of god, we run toward them.
  • 00:49:01.144 --> 00:49:04.314
  • So, let's talk about doubt.
  • 00:49:04.314 --> 00:49:06.083
  • You have an interesting take in your teaching on doubt--
  • 00:49:06.083 --> 00:49:09.119
  • That doubt is not always a bad thing.
  • 00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:12.456
  • Talk to us about that.
  • 00:49:12.456 --> 00:49:13.790
  • Dr. jeremiah: somebody once said,
  • 00:49:13.790 --> 00:49:15.125
  • "there is more faith in an honest doubt
  • 00:49:15.125 --> 00:49:18.061
  • Than in anything else you can ever have."
  • 00:49:18.061 --> 00:49:20.597
  • You know, many, many people that i know have become
  • 00:49:20.597 --> 00:49:23.300
  • Greatly gifted and strong apologetic teachers,
  • 00:49:23.300 --> 00:49:27.004
  • And it started with doubt.
  • 00:49:27.004 --> 00:49:28.572
  • Because when you have doubt, what do you want to do?
  • 00:49:28.572 --> 00:49:30.374
  • You want to find out, why do i-- is this true or is it not?
  • 00:49:30.374 --> 00:49:34.811
  • And i love the story of thomas who, you know, he said,
  • 00:49:34.811 --> 00:49:37.547
  • "unless i see this, i won't believe."
  • 00:49:37.547 --> 00:49:40.050
  • Doubt drives you to find answers,
  • 00:49:40.050 --> 00:49:43.720
  • If you don't just stuff it down in your spirit
  • 00:49:43.720 --> 00:49:46.590
  • And walk away from it, when you face it.
  • 00:49:46.590 --> 00:49:48.859
  • And i'll be honest with you: you cannot really have been
  • 00:49:48.859 --> 00:49:51.762
  • A christian for very long that you're gonna have moments
  • 00:49:51.762 --> 00:49:53.897
  • Where you think "what if this isn't true?
  • 00:49:53.897 --> 00:49:57.300
  • You know, what if all this that i've given my life,
  • 00:49:57.300 --> 00:49:59.603
  • What if it's not true?"
  • 00:49:59.603 --> 00:50:01.004
  • And then you go back and you find in the scripture
  • 00:50:01.004 --> 00:50:04.674
  • It is true.
  • 00:50:04.674 --> 00:50:06.009
  • We know it's true. it is absolutely true.
  • 00:50:06.009 --> 00:50:08.578
  • But sometimes those doubts come, and they drive you to greater
  • 00:50:08.578 --> 00:50:12.716
  • Faith and greater belief.
  • 00:50:12.716 --> 00:50:14.518
  • Sheila: one of the giants that you talked about--
  • 00:50:14.518 --> 00:50:16.153
  • I found it interesting
  • 00:50:16.153 --> 00:50:17.487
  • Because i'm not sure everyone would see this
  • 00:50:17.487 --> 00:50:19.956
  • As a spiritual issue, and that's procrastination.
  • 00:50:19.956 --> 00:50:25.028
  • Why is that important?
  • 00:50:25.028 --> 00:50:26.963
  • Dr. jeremiah: here's what i believe:
  • 00:50:26.963 --> 00:50:29.332
  • That the time between when god tells you to do something
  • 00:50:29.332 --> 00:50:33.770
  • And when you do it, that time belongs to the devil.
  • 00:50:33.770 --> 00:50:40.010
  • And i really have come to understand that over the years--
  • 00:50:40.010 --> 00:50:42.412
  • That when god says, "do this," you do it.
  • 00:50:42.412 --> 00:50:45.048
  • And every minute that you don't obey,
  • 00:50:45.048 --> 00:50:47.684
  • You open the door to the enemy to come in
  • 00:50:47.684 --> 00:50:49.753
  • So that ultimately he pushes you away
  • 00:50:49.753 --> 00:50:52.189
  • And you don't do it.
  • 00:50:52.189 --> 00:50:53.523
  • Sheila: wow, let me just tell you that has really spoken
  • 00:50:53.523 --> 00:50:55.926
  • To me because, yeah, sometimes it's easy to think,
  • 00:50:55.926 --> 00:50:58.195
  • "well, i'll do that tomorrow" or "i'll get to that."
  • 00:50:58.195 --> 00:51:01.565
  • But in essence, that's disobedience really.
  • 00:51:01.565 --> 00:51:04.701
  • Okay, i think one of the greatest giants that we face
  • 00:51:04.701 --> 00:51:08.238
  • Is failure, the fear of failing.
  • 00:51:08.238 --> 00:51:12.275
  • And i was wondering, in all your years of studying
  • 00:51:12.275 --> 00:51:14.411
  • The word of god, is there a passage of scripture
  • 00:51:14.411 --> 00:51:16.713
  • That has been the most helpful to you in dealing with that?
  • 00:51:16.713 --> 00:51:19.916
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, obviously, the great experiment in failure
  • 00:51:19.916 --> 00:51:25.088
  • Is peter's failure and his denial of the lord.
  • 00:51:25.088 --> 00:51:30.060
  • And when you get to john 21 and you see the lord jesus
  • 00:51:30.060 --> 00:51:34.664
  • Embracing him in his failure,
  • 00:51:34.664 --> 00:51:36.666
  • And just as he failed three times,
  • 00:51:36.666 --> 00:51:38.935
  • He recommissions him three times.
  • 00:51:38.935 --> 00:51:41.104
  • He sits down at breakfast with him,
  • 00:51:41.104 --> 00:51:42.873
  • He loves on him and restores him.
  • 00:51:42.873 --> 00:51:46.176
  • Several things are true about this, sheila.
  • 00:51:46.176 --> 00:51:48.945
  • When you fail, you don't become a failure.
  • 00:51:48.945 --> 00:51:52.883
  • You know, all of us fail at something.
  • 00:51:52.883 --> 00:51:56.920
  • We're always failing at something.
  • 00:51:56.920 --> 00:51:58.588
  • Failure is never final unless you let it be.
  • 00:51:58.588 --> 00:52:03.994
  • I remember a book erwin lutzer wrote
  • 00:52:03.994 --> 00:52:06.062
  • That was one of my favorite books
  • 00:52:06.062 --> 00:52:07.631
  • For a number of months.
  • 00:52:07.631 --> 00:52:08.965
  • It was called "failure: the back door to success."
  • 00:52:08.965 --> 00:52:11.601
  • Sheila: oh, that's a great title.
  • 00:52:11.601 --> 00:52:12.936
  • Dr. jeremiah: yeah, and it was like how sometimes
  • 00:52:12.936 --> 00:52:15.739
  • The things we fail at,
  • 00:52:15.739 --> 00:52:17.641
  • God uses to take us to a bigger victory.
  • 00:52:17.641 --> 00:52:21.278
  • Sheila: the very last giant that you discuss in this series
  • 00:52:21.278 --> 00:52:24.481
  • Is the giant of jealousy.
  • 00:52:24.481 --> 00:52:27.584
  • And i think in our day of social media,
  • 00:52:27.584 --> 00:52:29.953
  • Where people look at photographs of, you know,
  • 00:52:29.953 --> 00:52:32.189
  • People in their perfect moments with three filters over them,
  • 00:52:32.189 --> 00:52:36.059
  • It's very easy for jealousy to kind of slip in
  • 00:52:36.059 --> 00:52:38.795
  • And you think that everybody's life is better than your life.
  • 00:52:38.795 --> 00:52:42.465
  • How do you deal with that giant of jealousy that's so insidious?
  • 00:52:42.465 --> 00:52:46.603
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, you're absolutely right
  • 00:52:46.603 --> 00:52:47.938
  • About that whole thing, especially with kids.
  • 00:52:47.938 --> 00:52:49.739
  • But one of the things they deal with is
  • 00:52:49.739 --> 00:52:52.475
  • They see themselves against the touched-up pictures
  • 00:52:52.475 --> 00:52:55.879
  • Of their friends,
  • 00:52:55.879 --> 00:52:57.414
  • And they never feel like they can ever--
  • 00:52:57.414 --> 00:52:59.216
  • And so they become jealous.
  • 00:52:59.216 --> 00:53:00.617
  • Sheila: so how, as a believer,
  • 00:53:00.617 --> 00:53:02.786
  • Do you let joy outweigh jealousy?
  • 00:53:02.786 --> 00:53:06.122
  • If you look at somebody, i'm thinking of not just kids
  • 00:53:06.122 --> 00:53:08.592
  • But, you know, anybody who thinks
  • 00:53:08.592 --> 00:53:10.860
  • That "their life looks better than my life"--
  • 00:53:10.860 --> 00:53:13.263
  • How as a believer do you let the weight of joy
  • 00:53:13.263 --> 00:53:16.533
  • Be greater than the weight of jealousy?
  • 00:53:16.533 --> 00:53:18.368
  • Dr. jeremiah: well, joy is not happiness.
  • 00:53:18.368 --> 00:53:22.138
  • Joy is a relationship.
  • 00:53:22.138 --> 00:53:24.274
  • And joy is based upon your relationship with jesus christ.
  • 00:53:24.274 --> 00:53:28.945
  • And when you have a wholesome relationship with jesus christ,
  • 00:53:28.945 --> 00:53:32.616
  • You're aware of the fact that god made you special,
  • 00:53:32.616 --> 00:53:37.087
  • And he has a special plan for your life,
  • 00:53:37.087 --> 00:53:39.322
  • And that you're here on this earth
  • 00:53:39.322 --> 00:53:42.192
  • Because god carved you out in his plan and put you here.
  • 00:53:42.192 --> 00:53:47.464
  • So, you shouldn't be jealous of somebody else
  • 00:53:47.464 --> 00:53:49.866
  • Because you didn't come here to do that.
  • 00:53:49.866 --> 00:53:51.901
  • You came here to do this.
  • 00:53:51.901 --> 00:53:53.770
  • And we get our eyes off on somebody else.
  • 00:53:53.770 --> 00:53:56.706
  • When we get our eyes off of what god's doing for us
  • 00:53:56.706 --> 00:53:59.576
  • And on what he's doing for somebody else,
  • 00:53:59.576 --> 00:54:01.177
  • We can get jaundiced.
  • 00:54:01.177 --> 00:54:03.013
  • And i don't care how old we are or how long we've been doing it,
  • 00:54:03.013 --> 00:54:07.484
  • That'll always be an issue that we have to deal with.
  • 00:54:07.484 --> 00:54:10.120
  • Sheila: well, i have to say, i love this series.
  • 00:54:10.120 --> 00:54:12.455
  • It's profound. it's very practical.
  • 00:54:12.455 --> 00:54:14.891
  • Do you have just a final word that you would like to say?
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  • Dr. jeremiah: well, i want to tell you
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  • That the same thing god did for david,
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  • He wants to do for all of us.
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  • David came before the giant, and he said to the giant,
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  • "you come to me in your own strength,
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  • But i come to you in the name of the lord god of israel."
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  • We can't face our giants, sheila, in our own strength.
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  • That's the world's way.
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  • Our giants are probably not going to get solved
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  • At the secular counselor's office.
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  • But when we face our giants in the name of the lord,
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  • In the power of his might,
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  • We can have the same victory that david had.
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Female announcer: the first step
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  • To slaying the giants in your life
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  • Is to believe in jesus christ.
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  • Dr. jeremiah: the rapture is a time in the future
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  • And the bible says we're going to meet the lord in the air.
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  • The great reunion.
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