David Jeremiah - Where Do We Go From Here? Interview

March 7, 2026 | 57:29

Dr. David Jeremiah and Sheila Walsh discuss how the events of today relate to biblical prophecy in this special interview.

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Turning Point with Dr. David Jeremiah | David Jeremiah - Where Do We Go From Here? Interview | March 7, 2026

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Dr. david jeremiah: are we living in the end times?
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There may have never been another time in history
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When end times prophecy has been more aligned with the culture
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And circumstances of the world than it is today.
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I believe there are ten phenomenon
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We are witnessing today that were recorded centuries ago
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In bible prophecy.
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Seeing our circumstances in light of these prophecies
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Should give us resolve, purpose, and hope,
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And help us answer the questions,
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What are we to do with the world around us?
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What hope do we have in times like these?
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And ultimately, where do we go from here?
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Male announcer: before dr. jeremiah begins
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His teaching series,
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He sat down with sheila walsh,
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Who interviewed him about these ten phenomena
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We are witnessing today.
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Announcer: ladies and gentlemen, bible teacher, author,
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And television host, please welcome sheila walsh.
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[audience applauding]
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Sheila walsh: thank you so much.
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Dr. david jeremiah has been studying and teaching
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From god's word for more than 40 years.
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His practical manner of explaining
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What scripture says, what it means,
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And what it means for us has been life transforming
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For millions, and i am one of those millions.
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One particular feature of david jeremiah's ministry
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Is that through the years he's dedicated a portion
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Of his teaching to explain bible prophecy,
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Which for many people is often confusing
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And daunting to understand.
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But it doesn't have to be.
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In dr. jeremiah's teaching series,
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"where do we go from here?"
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He points to the prophecies that reveal insight
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Into the problems that you and i are currently experiencing.
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Won't you help me welcome dr. david jeremiah?
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[audience applauding]
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Sheila: well, this is fun that we get to do this again.
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Before we dive into your teaching series,
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Which, by the way i have to tell you it is
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One of the best i have ever--i mean,
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I've read all your books.
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This one had a huge impact on my life.
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But before we dive into this, let me ask another question.
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What in the world is going on?
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Have you ever seen such a chaotic time
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As the one we're living in now?
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Dr. david jeremiah: no, it seems like something
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Happens and before you can totally respond to it
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Something else happens right on top of it.
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And it's just one thing after another,
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And most of them are unprecedented things sheila,
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They're not things that, oh, well, that happened before.
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No, this has never happened before.
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What is this?
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You almost don't wanna turn on the television,
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Because what's gonna happen today
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That's never happened before?
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I mean, especially in our schools
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And what's happening in culture.
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We're in unprecedented times, no question about it.
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Sheila: you have always devoted some of your time
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And teaching and writing to biblical prophecy.
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Why is that so important for you?
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Dr. jeremiah: there's a wonderful blessing
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That awaits those who will dig
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Into what god has in store for us in the future.
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So many promises, and i think, if all you do is live
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In the present and you don't see what god has in store for us
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In the future, you can get pretty bleak, because, you know,
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If this is all there is, this isn't all that great.
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God has some great things ahead of us, and to know that
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And to look forward to that, and the bible says,
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"set your affections on things above,"
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That's a good thing to do.
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Sheila: yeah.
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So, i guess a more important question than what in the world
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Is going on is the title of your new book,
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"where do we go from here?"
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Why did you choose this title?
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, one day donna and i were,
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I don't know if we're having breakfast or it was--
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Usually we sit and talk a little bit in the morning,
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And i said something like this to her.
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I said, "it seems like we're watching america
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Being dismantled."
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That's what it seemed like to me,
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Everything that we hold dear is up for grabs,
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And i wondered if there was some way to find out
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What was behind all of this, and was prophecy involved?
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And so i began to do some digging,
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And that's where we came up with the title,
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And i decided this wasn't going to be the normal prophecy book,
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Because most prophecy books are, this is what's gonna happen,
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Deal with it, and there's no hope in that.
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So, we came up with this idea that we would write
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These chapters like this: where are we now,
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What does that mean, and where do we go from here?
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There's an old adage when you study prophecy that says,
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Future events cast their shadows before them.
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In other words, if there's an event out there
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That's gonna happen, it's not just gonna pop on you
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One day, it's gonna cast its shadow before us.
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We're living in those shadows right now.
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Sheila: and you address problems or phenomenon happening
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In our world today that are directly tied to events
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That will transpire in the last days,
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So let's just begin with something
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We're all very familiar with, and that is pandemic.
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Is a pandemic part of biblical prophecy?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, you all know when covid-19 happened,
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Everybody wanted to know, okay, is this in prophecy?
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Are we at the end of the world?
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Because in the bible there's a lot of times
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In the tribulation period where pestilences happen,
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And the bible says that
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In the end times there will be pestilences.
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In matthew 24, when jesus was setting the stage
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For the beginning of trouble, that's one of the signs,
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One of the six signs was pestilence,
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So i had a lot of people ask me--
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In fact, one of my favorite stories is my son daniel
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Works for the nfl, and he knows a lot of nfl players,
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And if i told you this guy's name,
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You'd all know it, but i won't do that.
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This guy came to daniel and he said, "hey, when you get
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A chance, ask your dad, is covid-19 in prophecy?"
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So, i get this call from daniel, and he says,
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He told me who it was, i said,
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"well, i better look into that," so i ended up preaching
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A whole message on it.
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What we learned from that is a number of things, sheila.
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Number one, when i first started studying prophecy
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And i would read about worldwide plagues,
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I believed it, but only because it was
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The bible, i couldn't imagine that.
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I can imagine it now, can't you?
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I mean, this was the whole world,
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114 different countries that were plagued
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By this terrible virus.
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But the question then is, was this a sign?
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And i can't say that it was.
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It may not have been a sign for the future,
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But it was a sign for today, and for a number of reasons.
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Number one, it showed us how vulnerable we all are, you know?
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Nobody was exempt from it, i mean, i made a list
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Of all of the important people who got covid right up front,
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And it was nba players and politicians,
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And by the way the president of the united states,
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Few other--so, the idea that maybe because you have enough
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You can secure yourself from it,
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You can't buy your way out of this.
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Everybody's vulnerable.
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Sheila: i think part of the fallout of a pandemic
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Isn't just disease and death, but loneliness,
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And anger, and anxiety.
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We've seen that all around us, do you think that the enemy
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Can use that as a tool to discourage us?
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Dr. jeremiah: i don't really think he can,
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I think he has and he is.
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I think, for many people, what we did to try
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To curtail the disease was worse than the disease itself,
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And as you know there was some pretty dark statistics
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That came out during that time that were really,
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Really troubling.
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Sheila: yeah.
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Do you feel that-- this is a hard question,
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But do you feel god uses pestilence
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To get our attention?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, he did get our attention.
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It sort of reminded me of 9/11.
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Remember 9/11, how everybody came back to church, like,
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For a month?
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Sheila: it's true.
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Dr. jeremiah: well, pestilence has
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A little more impact, because it's not just an event,
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It's a condition that goes on.
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I know that we've all learned a great deal during this time.
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Sheila: do you think that god can bring good out of something
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That was clearly so bad?
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Dr. jeremiah: he has, he's brought so much good
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Out of it.
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You know, when we first started after covid-19
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We couldn't have church, so i preached right here to nobody.
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I remember saying to donna when i left, "i don't ever want to do
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This again, this was really hard," and then the next day
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I found out how many people watched.
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The first week, 100,000 people watched on the internet.
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Now, it didn't stay there, i mean, first week everybody
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Was highly motivated, but, but even today, it's 30,000,
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40,000 people who watch online.
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Just maybe three weeks ago we had 70 people
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Come to christ through one of the internet programs.
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He gets a lot of glory to himself.
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Sheila: let's move on to the next issue to discuss,
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Is globalism, which you call an international prophecy.
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You know, we're definitely way more in touch as a world now,
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And some people think that's a good thing.
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What does the bible say about a global society?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, you know, the first globalist
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Was a guy named nimrod in the old testament
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Who built the tower of babel.
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We found out in the very beginning
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That when all the people get together
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And try to build something to show god up,
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God doesn't put up with that.
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And so he, as you know, he confused the languages,
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And that project sort of didn't do so well.
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The problem with globalism, sheila, is it's the one thing
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That has to happen for the end of the world events
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To take place, because as you know
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The scripture tells us that at the end of the world
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There will be a world leader who will galvanize people
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Behind him, and he will be a very evil man
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Who will take the world down.
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But he has to have the following of the world.
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Galvanizing the power behind one person is just a setup
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For what's gonna happen in the future.
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Sheila: as believers, how do we deal
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With that kind of world when we see this?
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I mean, we all see it happening around us,
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How do we live in days like this?
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Dr. jeremiah: one of the things i really believe
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I've learned from the study of this book is that
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We cannot live in lies.
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Let's be honest, sometimes even as christians we know
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What everybody's telling us isn't true,
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And we live in the midst of it like it's okay,
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And we cannot do that.
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We have got to learn how to live in the truth.
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Part of that is, when things come up that we know
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Are not representative of the biblical worldview,
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We can't just sit there and take it.
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We need to raise the objective and not do it.
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Most of what we hear today, most of what we see,
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Most of what's on television is untrue.
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It's just not true, and if you stop
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And think about it, you say, you know what,
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Wait a minute that's not true.
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But we allow it to affect our lives to the extent that
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It changes our daily behavior, and we as christians have got
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To ask god to help us be set free by the truth
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And follow the truth.
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God is not a globalist, god is a nationalist.
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God created the nations, it says in acts,
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He created the nations so that they would know god.
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You read in the bible, look at all the nations
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That are in the bible.
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You know, there are so many nations,
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And god created it that way, he wants it that way.
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Sheila: we'll be right back to talk more about
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Dr. jeremiah's prophecy series, "where do we go from here?"
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[audience applauding]
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Announcer: the bible predicts the falling away of the church.
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Is that what we are seeing today?
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Are the illnesses, plagues, and pestilence of our day
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Signs we are living in the end times?
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Would you be surprised to know the decay of character
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Is a precursor for christ's return?
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Dr. david jeremiah answers these questions and more
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In his book, "where do we go from here?
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How tomorrow's prophecies foreshadow today's problems."
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Written especially for this time,
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Dr. jeremiah explores
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How bible prophecy intersects with culture
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And events we are witnessing right outside our door.
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Sheila: welcome back. i'm sheila walsh,
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Here again to talk with dr. david jeremiah
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About his series, "where do we go from here?
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How tomorrow's prophecies foreshadow today's problems."
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Let's move in and talk about the nation that god chose
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For his people.
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Because whether it's in the news or political debate,
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Israel has a constant spotlight on it.
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Small country, constant spotlight,
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And so you dedicate a whole chapter to this,
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And you call it a geographical prophecy.
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Why is jerusalem so important?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, where does jesus come back to?
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He comes back to the mount of olives
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From whence he left, and when he sets up his kingdom,
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Where does he rule?
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In jerusalem.
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And what happens after the old jerusalem?
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You get a new jerusalem.
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So jerusalem is really important, and, sheila,
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I got to tell you, i had, kind of, like a really special moment
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When i was working on this chapter.
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I love the people of israel, and i love studying.
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I learned a lot about jerusalem that i didn't know before,
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But one of the things that i learned was this.
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The bible says numerous times that god chose jerusalem to put
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His name on it, in other words, he chose jerusalem
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As his own special city.
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That's not said about any other city in history.
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God chose jerusalem as his very own city.
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Jerusalem's mentioned in the bible way more than
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Any other city, it's the most important city,
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But i've always wondered why--
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Donna and i have talked about this.
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When we go to israel and i am in jerusalem,
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I have this sort of, like, unreal feeling about everything.
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And i thought, well, maybe it's because
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That's where the bible took place,
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That's where jesus walked, all those things are true,
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But now i understand it more than ever before.
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I have that feeling because this is god's city.
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It's a very special place, god has set his name upon it.
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In the book of deuteronomy there's a chapter
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Where that is mentioned five times in one chapter.
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This is god's city.
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When you go to jerusalem the next time, just realize,
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This isn't just like going from city to city.
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No, this is god's city.
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Sheila: as you know, it is a very hot topic,
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There's so much discussion going on in the news,
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There's a lot of controversy.
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As believers, how do we address jerusalem,
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How do we pray for this city, what is our responsibility
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As god's children?
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Dr. jeremiah: the bible tells us specifically
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Pray for the peace of jerusalem, so you don't have
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To wonder about that.
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The bible also tells us that if we bless israel,
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God will bless us.
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There's no question about what our role is,
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That we should be positive about israel,
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But i think we should be positive about them
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In a number of ways.
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Perhaps the most important is for their safety.
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They are surrounded by 37 nations that would
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Take them out in a minute if they could,
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And some of them are now making peace with them.
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The abraham accords are really encouraging,
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But they have way more enemies than they have friends.
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They're an amazing group of people, resourceful people.
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They've just come through some really difficult times
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Nationally with all this stuff that's going on with hezbollah
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And all the people that are trying to hurt them,
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But i think we as believers have a responsibility
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To make israel a prominent part of our prayer list.
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That's what god tells us to do.
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Sheila: absolutely.
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Next in your series, you discuss economic chaos,
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You call it a financial prophecy.
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Why does money play such a central role in end times?
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, it is a really big deal.
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Did you know that babylon, which is in the new testament,
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Is the financial headquarters in the future,
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And the bible describes its dismantling.
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"babylon is fallen, is fallen," and it talks about how in that
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Day when god gets control, the financial enterprise
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Of this world which is so important
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To everybody will just be gone.
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The chapter that i wrote on that has to do with what's happening
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In our world today to universalize monetary transfer.
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There's a country in europe right now
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Where they're actually embedding chips
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Underneath the skin of people's hands,
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And it's several thousand people,
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And this chip is radio controlled,
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So you can do all your business from this chip.
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You can walk in the store and just run your chip
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By the scanner, picks up all your information,
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You can do business with this, you can transfer money
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From your hand to somebody else who may have this.
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It's preparing the way for the mark of the beast,
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Because in the book it revelation
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In the 13th chapter, it talks about how
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When the antichrist comes to rule,
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You'll have to take the mark,
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And if you don't take the mark, you won't be able to buy
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Or sell.
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So, if you aren't loyal to the antichrist,
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You will be starved out of existence.
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You will go to the store, collect all your groceries,
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But when you go to check out if you don't have the mark
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Of the beast, you won't be able to do any business.
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That's the way the antichrist will control his population.
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Does that sound kind of familiar?
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I mean, it's changing, it's rapidly changing,
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And it's not hard to understand that.
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Read revelation 13, and revelation 13
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Casts a shadow before it, and we're living
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In that shadow right now.
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Sheila: what would you say to those who might be afraid
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That they might accidentally take the mark of the beast?
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Is that something that we as believers should be afraid of?
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Dr. jeremiah: i don't think anybody will ever take
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That accidentally.
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You will either take it or you won't.
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Well, first of all, i don't plan to be here when that happens.
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Sheila: me either. we're going to be out of here.
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Dr. jeremiah: that's gonna take place during the tribulation.
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There will be some people who will become christians
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During the tribulation, but i doubt very many of them
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Will take the mark.
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It will be a tremendously challenging time on this earth
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When that happens.
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And we're just getting a little glimpse of it
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By what's happening now and what's happening in our world.
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Sheila: wow.
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I think a lot of believers are concerned about finances
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And about money.
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How do we find the peace of christ in the midst of things
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That are changing so rapidly in our culture?
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Dr. jeremiah: i believe with all my heart
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That if you don't understand what money is,
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It will ruin your life.
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Money is nothing else but a tool, that's all it is.
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And it's not to be hoarded, it's to be invested and used.
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You got to have security, obviously, i don't know
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What the answer is for everybody,
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And you can ask my wife about this,
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Money means almost nothing to me except as a tool.
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What i believe about money is that we have that money to use
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For the kingdom of god, to take care of our families,
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The bible tells us to do that.
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But if money becomes your god-- and interesting enough,
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In the bible there is this contest between god and mammon,
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And what the bible's telling us is you better get
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Your mind right about money, because it's the number one
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Competitor to god in your life.
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If you don't get it right, you will become an idolator.
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Sheila: wow.
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This is a hot subject, socialism.
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You call it a cultural prophecy.
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Why is socialism such a difficult subject
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To talk about?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, first of all,
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I had to research these chapters.
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I spent more time on that chapter
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Than all of the other chapters put together.
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I didn't know a lot about socialism,
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I know way more now than i wish i did.
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It is the ideology that i believe will be in place
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When the antichrist takes over.
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He will run a socialistic world.
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Socialism is everything opposite of what god is.
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Socialism is anti-god.
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What we know about it today comes from karl marx,
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Who was the originator of the current socialistic ideology,
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And i don't wanna get off on this because i remember
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When i learned this-- karl marx was a hideous man.
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He was a very evil man.
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He was a satanist, he's buried in a tomb in london
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That's reserved for people who worship satan,
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That's where he's buried.
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Karl marx and his philosophy is responsible for the death
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Of over 100 million people in a ten year period of time
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When communism was ruling.
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Joseph stalin, for instance, who was an avowed marxist,
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Killed more people than both the first
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And the second world war added together and doubled.
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Sheila: oh my gosh, wow.
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Dr. jeremiah: it was communism, it was marxism,
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And it's making its inroads into our culture today
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Through a number of ways.
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People ask me, well, why are people burning down monuments?
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Well, marxism believes that you have to destroy
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The past to create the future, so if they can get rid
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Of your memory of the good things
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Of the past and wipe that slate clean,
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They can come in with all of their stuff,
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So that's part of marxism.
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Why are we defunding the police?
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That's very interesting, you know,
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And i could go off on that,
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Because the five cities that have defunded the police
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Are having the highest murder rates right now
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That they've ever had in their history,
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Some of them 50%, 60%, 70% more than before
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They defunded the police.
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But why would they do that?
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Here's why they do it.
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Marxism wants the city governments to fail
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So they can federalize them,
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And then they will have a federal government.
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So, they federalize the police, they federalize education,
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They federalize health, what is that?
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It's all, get this all together so we can socialize all of this
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And run it from the top.
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The poor get poorer, and the few people who run it
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Get richer so the disparity between the rich and the poor
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Isn't helped by this at all, it's made worse.
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That's what's going on in our culture today.
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We are in the early stages of socialism,
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And all i can say to you is this, remember venezuela.
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Venezuela once had a per capita income that was equal
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To the british, it was just a little bit under america,
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And now 94% of the people in venezuela are living
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In poverty because communism came in and took it over.
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They federalized all the oil, they took everything away
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From the people, that's what happens
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When socialism takes over, and that's what would happen
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To america if we allow this to happen to us.
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Sheila: so, let me talk to you as if i'm a millennial,
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Which i'm clearly not.
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So many millennials say, no, you don't understand,
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Socialism is about caring for the poor,
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That's what it's all about, and a lot of millennials
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Are very concerned about social justice,
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And that's how they view what socialism really is.
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Dr. jeremiah: i remember reading something
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By albert muller, who is one of my favorite people.
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He said, "if you want to know how this works,
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Ask the poor people."
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The poor people will tell you, we are much better off
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In a capitalistic society where there are a lot of people
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Building and we participate than we are
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When somebody gets the control.
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We are much worse off when we're under a dictator type
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Organization in socialism.
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So, it's supposed to help people get--be better, but it doesn't,
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It makes it worse.
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Well, how could you not know that?
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If you just look at venezuela, socialism destroyed venezuela,
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And it destroys everything it touches.
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There is not one good socialist story in all of history,
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Not one.
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I'm not just making this up, there is not one good story
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That's the result--somebody say,
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Well, what about the scandinavian countries?
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They're not socialist, they're welfare states
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With a lot of money, and they have some socialist principles,
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But they're not a socialist state.
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But wherever you see socialism at work,
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You can always know it's,
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It's gonna destroy everything it touches.
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Sheila: let's move on to something that i believe
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Is really destroying a lot of people at the moment,
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And that is cancel culture,
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Which you call a political prophecy.
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It's despairing to me to see the way that people are cancelled,
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Their whole life, not just an opinion,
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But their whole life.
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How does cancel culture play into end times prophecy?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, let me just tell you
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That cancel culture is one of the byproducts of socialism,
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Because one of the building blocks of socialism is
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What they call totalitarianism.
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Totalitarianism says nothing is allowed except what we allow,
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So there's no chance for there to be any dialogue,
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Because they don't want the truth.
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They want their lie, and so if you come against it,
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If you say something, or if you're on the wrong side
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Of an issue and you have something that you did
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In your life 25 years ago that's long been forgotten,
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They will find it and they will use it
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And they will destroy you.
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Sheila: so, how do we exist, i mean,
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How do we share the good news without being silenced?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, this is no time for you to live in fear
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Or to live a wimpy life.
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I think we have to be who we are and be honest and pray
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That god will give us wisdom.
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One time jesus said, "i have many things to say to you,
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But you cannot bear them now."
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Sometimes we think that as christians we have to speak
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All the truth all the time to everybody,
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And there's a little bit of wisdom involved in this.
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For instance, i'll give you an illustration
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As it relates to me.
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I'm on television all over the world.
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We're on a huge network in canada which covers
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The whole country, it's a christian network.
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In canada they have hate laws, and these laws are inviolable,
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You don't get a second chance.
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You violate the hate laws, you're done.
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We have people at turning point who listen to everything
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We do through canadian ears and watch everything we do through
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Canadian eyes, because you can make it one time and that's it,
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You're done.
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Is it right for me to do that and ruin the influence
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God has given me for the gospel because i wanna make a point
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About one thing?
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I tell everybody, god has called us to be broadcasters,
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Not narrowcasters, and a lot of people i know wanna be
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A narrowcaster, you know, they just--and what happens,
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What happens, sheila, when you do that is
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You get canceled.
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The next day you get canceled.
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So, what i'm saying is, cancel culture is bad,
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But it's sometimes our own lack of wisdom,
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Our own prudence that gets us canceled.
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If you know you're gonna get canceled if you do this,
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And you're not gonna ever have a chance to tell anybody again
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In that nation about jesus christ,
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Where do you draw the line?
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And, you know, i don't know what the answer to that is,
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But i know it's not worth it to lose the opportunity
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To tell people how to get to heaven
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By going off on a tangent that you may have
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About something that needs to be addressed.
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Address it in your local church, address it with your own people,
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But don't make an issue out of it and get yourself canceled.
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Sheila: for those of us who live relatively normal lives,
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How do we continue to be salt and light in a world
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That is increasingly against our message?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, i think we have to be salt
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And light and let come what will.
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What we know is, we have to live in the truth.
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We've already made that point, you have to live in the truth,
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You cannot live unless you live in the truth.
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Sheila: yeah.
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You move on to talk then about spiritual famine,
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Which you've identified as a spiritual prophecy.
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What do you mean by spiritual famine?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, let me tell you about that.
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Amos, who was, he was a really interesting prophet.
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In amos chapter 8, i think it's verse 11,
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He said, i wanna tell you, there's coming a day
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When there's gonna be a famine on this earth.
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Not a famine of bread and water, but a famine of the hearing
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Of the word of god.
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That's gonna happen in the future,
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It's happening now.
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I'll just tell you one little simple thing.
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When i was growing up and with the church,
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My father was a pastor, one of the things
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You used to assume when you went to church
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Is you'd see people walk into church with their bible.
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That hardly ever happens.
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First of all, today you can carry it on your phone,
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The preacher puts it up on the screen so you don't have
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To look it up, but it's an interesting picture
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Of where we are.
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Why has god blessed turning point,
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And why does he bless this church?
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It's not me, it's just, i just teach the bible.
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The bible says there's gonna be a famine of the hearing
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Of the word of god, and let me tell you how that works.
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First of all, the devil tries to take you away
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From the word of god.
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In the parable of the soils it talks about how satan
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Can steal the word out of your heart,
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Or you can be--the word can be marginalized in your life
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Because of the cares that you have for life,
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So your busyness, your distractions.
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So, what that is it's satan taking you away
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From the word of god, but satan also takes
00:30:08.179 --> 00:30:10.815
The word of god away from you, and how does that is,
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He gets you in situations where you think you're being
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In a church, but nobody ever opens the bible.
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You know, i say to everybody, and i mean this sincerely,
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You need to be in a church where christ is lifted up
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And where the word of god is taught.
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Sheila: is spiritual famine an indicator of the last days?
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Dr. jeremiah: yeah, absolutely.
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Like amos said, there's gonna be a time when the word of god
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Will be missing, and church attendance and church membership
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In this country has been going down.
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When they first started keeping statistics,
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73% of the people who were polled went to church.
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Today, it's less than 50%,
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It's 47% of the people go to church.
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That's a symptom of the lack of influence of the churches,
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And churches are closing.
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That's typical from across the country.
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Sheila: we've talked about a lot of things which technically,
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Really, are happening outside of the church,
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But this chapter, heartbreaking.
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You call it the falling away, a theological prophecy.
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What is the falling away?
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Dr. jeremiah: thessalonians says that before jesus can return,
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There must be the falling away.
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And so, what is that?
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Well, the word itself is the word apostasy,
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It's from two greek words, which means to stand apart.
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To have stood in one place and then to stand apart.
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I used some illustrations in that chapter
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That are pretty sad.
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One is about a pastor who was well known as a speaker
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And writer, and one day he got up and told his church
00:31:50.248 --> 00:31:54.285
That his marriage was over, that it wasn't gonna survive,
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And then told them about an even more important divorce
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And that he didn't believe in god and that he believed
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That he was going through a deconstruction
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Of his faith.
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This is so prevalent today, friends, that there's actually
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A new word to describe it, it's called not evangelical,
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Exvangelical.
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So many people who are walking away from the faith.
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These are not believers who are falling away, these are people
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Who never were believers but went through the motions of it,
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And at least were professing believers,
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And they're walking away.
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And the bible says in the tribulation period
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There's gonna be a great departure
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From the faith, a falling away, an apostasy.
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That's in the tribulation period,
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But here we are today and it's happening today.
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I almost don't wanna read the christian news sites,
00:32:43.935 --> 00:32:46.004
Because every time i turn around somebody that i know about
00:32:46.004 --> 00:32:49.073
Is saying, i'm not a christian, i wasn't a christian.
00:32:49.073 --> 00:32:53.478
There's a guy up north i read about,
00:32:53.478 --> 00:32:56.247
And i told his story without mentioning his name,
00:32:56.247 --> 00:32:59.617
He decided he was gonna put god on trial for a year.
00:32:59.617 --> 00:33:03.154
He said, i'm not gonna read my bible, i'm not gonna pray,
00:33:03.154 --> 00:33:05.289
I'm not gonna go to church, i'm not gonna do anything,
00:33:05.289 --> 00:33:08.026
And i'm gonna see if god survives.
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Well, he gets to the end of the year and he decides,
00:33:10.161 --> 00:33:12.597
I don't believe there is a god.
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He was the pastor of an evangelical church,
00:33:14.399 --> 00:33:16.334
But he was not a believer, because you cannot be a believer
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And be an apostate.
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If you are a believer, a genuine believer,
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You don't do that.
00:33:23.574 --> 00:33:25.176
So, what's happening is a lot of people are in the churches
00:33:25.176 --> 00:33:28.679
Who claim to be believers, but they're not.
00:33:28.679 --> 00:33:31.716
And then when the trouble comes or when stress comes,
00:33:31.716 --> 00:33:34.052
They walk away, and the damage that's done is huge.
00:33:34.052 --> 00:33:38.523
Sheila: as a pastor, if you had just a minute to encourage
00:33:38.523 --> 00:33:43.494
A believer who's afraid that they might fall away,
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What would you say to them?
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Dr. jeremiah: you know the best thing that you can do
00:33:48.566 --> 00:33:50.034
To keep from ever worrying about falling away is to keep growing
00:33:50.034 --> 00:33:52.603
In your faith.
00:33:52.603 --> 00:33:54.605
Isn't that true, you know?
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I love doing little projects that we do here with our people.
00:33:58.543 --> 00:34:02.313
We just recently challenged everybody to write
00:34:02.313 --> 00:34:05.283
The book of romans in their own handwriting,
00:34:05.283 --> 00:34:07.618
And we created the book for them to do it in.
00:34:07.618 --> 00:34:09.487
I'm getting letters, you guys, every day from people
00:34:09.487 --> 00:34:12.924
That are doing it, and they're saying,
00:34:12.924 --> 00:34:15.193
They're saying, you know, i'm thinking about the bible,
00:34:15.193 --> 00:34:17.728
I'm thinking about what i'm reading,
00:34:17.728 --> 00:34:19.597
And it's been a truly blessed discipline.
00:34:19.597 --> 00:34:22.333
If you keep growing, the very fact
00:34:22.333 --> 00:34:25.336
That you're growing is evidence that you're a believer,
00:34:25.336 --> 00:34:28.539
But if you just become stagnant in your walk with christ,
00:34:28.539 --> 00:34:32.410
That's the devil's playground, he loves that.
00:34:32.410 --> 00:34:35.113
And if you're not growing, you're not producing
00:34:35.113 --> 00:34:38.449
The evidence in your life, and here's
00:34:38.449 --> 00:34:40.418
One of the great passages to help us.
00:34:40.418 --> 00:34:42.753
In 2 peter, peter says that if you add to your faith,
00:34:42.753 --> 00:34:48.292
Virtue, and to your virtue--
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And there's a whole list of things,
00:34:49.794 --> 00:34:51.662
And at the end of it he says, and if you do these things,
00:34:51.662 --> 00:34:53.965
You will never stumble.
00:34:53.965 --> 00:34:57.468
He says if you do these things, you--and really,
00:34:57.468 --> 00:34:59.403
The word could be described, you will never fall away.
00:34:59.403 --> 00:35:02.106
So, what i would say to people, if you have some doubts
00:35:02.106 --> 00:35:04.642
As to whether or not you're really, genuinely a christian,
00:35:04.642 --> 00:35:07.178
You need to get involved in the growth of your life.
00:35:07.178 --> 00:35:10.148
If nothing's working and you're not growing,
00:35:10.148 --> 00:35:11.816
You're probably not a christian.
00:35:11.816 --> 00:35:13.384
And the bible says in 2 corinthians 13:5,
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Examine yourselves to see whether or not
00:35:16.988 --> 00:35:19.724
You are in the faith.
00:35:19.724 --> 00:35:21.392
The most important thing you can ever do if you have any doubts
00:35:21.392 --> 00:35:23.694
Is to make dead sure you know there was a time
00:35:23.694 --> 00:35:27.598
When you accepted jesus christ as your savior.
00:35:27.598 --> 00:35:30.134
Sometimes people say to me, oh, pastor jeremiah,
00:35:30.134 --> 00:35:32.470
I've been a christian all my life.
00:35:32.470 --> 00:35:33.871
No you haven't.
00:35:33.871 --> 00:35:35.606
You know, suppose i came and asked you,
00:35:35.606 --> 00:35:37.074
When were you born physically, and you said to me,
00:35:37.074 --> 00:35:39.043
"i've been born all my life."
00:35:39.043 --> 00:35:42.413
No, there was a day when you weren't born,
00:35:42.413 --> 00:35:44.148
And you got born, right?
00:35:44.148 --> 00:35:46.317
And then when you got born you became a living person.
00:35:46.317 --> 00:35:49.520
There was a day when you weren't a christian,
00:35:49.520 --> 00:35:51.756
And then you accepted jesus christ
00:35:51.756 --> 00:35:53.357
And you were born again.
00:35:53.357 --> 00:35:56.127
So, i like to tell people, you may not remember
00:35:56.127 --> 00:35:59.363
The exact day when you were born again,
00:35:59.363 --> 00:36:02.200
But you better remember that there was a day
00:36:02.200 --> 00:36:04.835
When you were born again and be able to go back
00:36:04.835 --> 00:36:07.305
And look at that point in time and say, i'm not a christian
00:36:07.305 --> 00:36:10.341
Because my parents were christian,
00:36:10.341 --> 00:36:12.043
I'm not a christian because i went
00:36:12.043 --> 00:36:13.377
To a christian church, i'm not a christian
00:36:13.377 --> 00:36:15.246
Because i got baptized, i'm not a christian
00:36:15.246 --> 00:36:17.248
Because i was on the board.
00:36:17.248 --> 00:36:19.050
In the book of matthew it says that one day people
00:36:19.050 --> 00:36:22.486
Are gonna stand before the lord and say,
00:36:22.486 --> 00:36:24.288
Haven't we done wonderful works in your name,
00:36:24.288 --> 00:36:26.357
Haven't we cast out demons in your name?
00:36:26.357 --> 00:36:28.659
And the lord's gonna say, depart from me,
00:36:28.659 --> 00:36:31.762
I never knew you.
00:36:31.762 --> 00:36:33.397
So, just even doing good things doesn't make you a christian.
00:36:33.397 --> 00:36:36.834
The best thing that can happen if you have doubts
00:36:36.901 --> 00:36:39.237
About your faith is to examine yourself to see
00:36:39.237 --> 00:36:41.973
Whether you're in your faith,
00:36:41.973 --> 00:36:43.407
And then if you're a christian, get on a growth project
00:36:43.407 --> 00:36:45.943
That makes you aware of the fact that you are a living,
00:36:45.943 --> 00:36:48.879
Growing christian on your way to being who god wants you to be.
00:36:48.879 --> 00:36:54.051
Sheila: you use, in this teaching series,
00:36:54.051 --> 00:36:55.653
You use a term i find so interesting,
00:36:55.653 --> 00:36:57.722
I've never heard this before.
00:36:57.722 --> 00:36:59.056
End times people, which you call a biographical prophecy.
00:36:59.056 --> 00:37:03.361
What are end times people?
00:37:03.361 --> 00:37:04.895
Dr. jeremiah: you know, this one really caught me
00:37:04.895 --> 00:37:06.330
By surprise, i never dreamed i would write about this.
00:37:06.330 --> 00:37:08.833
And then one day i was reading it,
00:37:08.833 --> 00:37:10.234
And it says in this passage that in the latter days
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People will be like this.
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Lovers of themselves instead of lovers of god,
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And there's a whole list, there's 19 things on this list
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That describes the way people are gonna be just before
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Jesus comes back, and one day it dawned on me,
00:37:25.516 --> 00:37:27.918
I know these people.
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I see them, i talk to them, they're everywhere.
00:37:31.656 --> 00:37:35.126
There are more people like that than i can ever remember,
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And i'm not a pessimist, and i'm not a negative person,
00:37:38.029 --> 00:37:40.698
I'm just saying something's going on with people.
00:37:40.698 --> 00:37:44.101
The people that we interact with today,
00:37:44.101 --> 00:37:46.771
Many of them have the characteristics
00:37:46.771 --> 00:37:50.274
Of those people in that passage of scripture,
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So i wrote a whole chapter about the end times people,
00:37:53.210 --> 00:37:56.447
And when you read that chapter you will say, oh, yeah,
00:37:56.447 --> 00:37:59.750
That guy works right across from me,
00:37:59.750 --> 00:38:02.186
Because the characteristics are so stark,
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And it's amazing to me how very accurate
00:38:04.889 --> 00:38:09.260
And prevalent biblical truth is.
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It, just, timeless, and that's a tremendous reminder to us
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That the end is not too far away.
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Sheila: we'll be right back to talk more about
00:38:20.738 --> 00:38:22.506
Dr. jeremiah's prophecy series, "where do we go from here?"
00:38:22.506 --> 00:38:28.779
Announcer: the bible predicts the falling away of the church.
00:38:31.315 --> 00:38:34.051
Is that what we are seeing today?
00:38:34.051 --> 00:38:36.287
Are the illnesses, plagues, and pestilence of our day
00:38:36.287 --> 00:38:39.123
Signs we are living in the end times?
00:38:39.123 --> 00:38:41.892
Would you be surprised to know the decay of character
00:38:41.892 --> 00:38:44.562
Is a precursor for christ's return?
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Dr. david jeremiah answers these questions and more
00:38:47.231 --> 00:38:50.401
In his book, "where do we go from here?
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How tomorrow's prophecies foreshadow today's problems."
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Written especially for this time,
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Dr. jeremiah explores
00:38:59.009 --> 00:39:00.411
How bible prophecy intersects with culture
00:39:00.411 --> 00:39:03.013
And events we are witnessing right outside our door.
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In every chapter, dr. jeremiah examines
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What bible prophecy reveals about the world today,
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What it means for believers,
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Sheila: welcome back.
00:39:55.132 --> 00:39:56.467
I'm sheila walsh, here again to talk with dr. david jeremiah
00:39:56.467 --> 00:39:59.470
About his series, "where do we go from here?
00:39:59.470 --> 00:40:02.506
How tomorrow's prophecies foreshadow today's problems."
00:40:02.506 --> 00:40:07.578
Some people might say, things haven't really got worse,
00:40:07.578 --> 00:40:10.648
We're just more aware of it now because of, you know,
00:40:10.648 --> 00:40:13.117
News and media.
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What would you say to that?
00:40:14.452 --> 00:40:15.786
Dr. jeremiah: it's not true.
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Sheila: well, there you go.
00:40:17.121 --> 00:40:18.456
Dr. jeremiah: in the passage in timothy,
00:40:18.456 --> 00:40:19.790
It says they're getting worse and worse.
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We're not as bad as we could be, not as bad as we might be,
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But the culture is not going in the right direction.
00:40:25.563 --> 00:40:28.499
We're smarter, we know how to do things, we just don't know
00:40:28.499 --> 00:40:31.302
What to do with them when we get them done.
00:40:31.302 --> 00:40:33.170
We're not smarter in terms of how to live,
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And i don't need to make that case, you all know that.
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So, there's always been difficult people,
00:40:38.909 --> 00:40:42.580
There's always been people who were lovers of money
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And not lovers of god, people who didn't love
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Their families, people who didn't care
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For anything.
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What i'm saying is, the trend in that regard
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Is not going in the right direction.
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We're not getting better.
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It seems as if those characteristics that are written
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In that passage are more true than they've ever been.
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Sheila: how do we develop christ-like character?
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If that's our heart's desire, that we just wanna be
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More like jesus, what do we do?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, the first thing,
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Maybe read that list and say, look, god,
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Don't let me become like that, you know?
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You know, just don't let me be that way.
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We become our relationship with christ, we become what we read,
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We become who we hang out with, we become the people
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That we are because of the choices we make.
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When we make those choices and we do the right thing
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We can see this growth in our lives
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And we're becoming more christ-like.
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The whole principles of discipleship
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Are about becoming christ-like, and we know what those are.
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You need to read the word of god,
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You need to be in church, you need to be discipling,
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You need--
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I tell people at shadow mountain,
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You should do three things.
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You should come to church, you should be in a small group,
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And you should serve somewhere.
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Just do those three things.
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Everybody can come to church.
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The bible says, "forsake not the assembling of yourselves,"
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So go to church, get in a small group.
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When i did the chapter on socialism,
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I realized if socialism is really coming down the road
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At us as fast as i think it is, small groups may be
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Our salvation, because, you know,
00:42:11.936 --> 00:42:14.838
Just like it was during covid, small groups were the things
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That kept the stability in the church.
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And then serve.
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You shouldn't just be taking in, you should be giving out,
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And there's always a place to serve if you want to,
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And so those are the three things.
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Sheila: i love the way that you finish the series,
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It's the best possible place, tying prophecy
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Back to the gospel.
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The final prophecy, the triumph of the gospel.
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What does the gospel message mean for us today?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, it's absolutely the good news,
00:42:44.702 --> 00:42:46.837
And there's a new channel on sirius xm called
00:42:46.837 --> 00:42:49.607
The billy graham channel,
00:42:49.607 --> 00:42:51.241
And they play all of dr. graham's messages
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From way back when he first started preaching, and you know,
00:42:53.544 --> 00:42:56.246
He preached for 70 years, for seven decades,
00:42:56.246 --> 00:43:01.251
So you have messages from as way back
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When he first started preaching and just before he died,
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And they're all on this channel, and they just play them
00:43:05.756 --> 00:43:07.324
Back to back.
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And i've been listening to them, and the interesting thing is,
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It didn't matter what was going on,
00:43:12.162 --> 00:43:14.198
He always preached the gospel.
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He preached the gospel through 12 presidents,
00:43:17.568 --> 00:43:21.205
He preached the gospel during assassinations,
00:43:21.205 --> 00:43:24.808
He preached the gospel during impeachments,
00:43:24.808 --> 00:43:27.277
He preached the gospel during war, during peace,
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He preached the gospel all the time,
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And the gospel was always what we must never forget about,
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Because the gospel is what really changes the world.
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I can't fix all the problems, i preach the gospel,
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And the gospel changes people one person at a time,
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Two people at a time.
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Here's what the bible says about the gospel.
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It is the power of god unto salvation.
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It's the only other thing except for god that is described
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That way.
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The power of god, the power of the gospel.
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Why wouldn't you want to make that your main thing?
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Now, that doesn't mean you preach john 3:16 every sunday,
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That means the gospel is at the really core of your life,
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The gospel is what will change lives, it will change culture,
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It will change everything.
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Over all the things that are written in this book,
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There's one thing that's above them all,
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It's the gospel of jesus christ.
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So, triumph with the gospel, amen.
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Sheila: amen.
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As i came to the end of this book,
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Which was so fresh, so relevant,
00:44:29.807 --> 00:44:32.409
What keeps you so fresh and motivated
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In what you're doing?
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What inspires you to keep going?
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Dr. jeremiah: you know, one thing for sure,
00:44:40.117 --> 00:44:42.720
I'm a very inquisitive person, and i never,
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Ever stop asking questions.
00:44:46.490 --> 00:44:48.559
I want to learn.
00:44:48.559 --> 00:44:49.893
I do a book every year, and every year i start a new study,
00:44:49.893 --> 00:44:53.931
And every year it grabs hold of me, and usually--
00:44:53.931 --> 00:44:56.333
Somebody said writing a book
00:44:56.333 --> 00:44:57.801
Is like a train leaving a train station.
00:44:57.801 --> 00:45:00.871
At the beginning it's groaning and not going anywhere
00:45:00.871 --> 00:45:04.675
And you wonder if-- and then all of a sudden
00:45:04.675 --> 00:45:06.610
You start to get some momentum, and then it's just like
00:45:06.610 --> 00:45:09.513
I can't get enough of it, it gets me up early
00:45:09.513 --> 00:45:12.316
In the morning, keeps me up late at night.
00:45:12.316 --> 00:45:14.151
Preparing messages for people, sharing the gospel,
00:45:14.151 --> 00:45:17.588
It's just what i love to do, and i think god has given that
00:45:17.588 --> 00:45:20.791
To me as a gift.
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Sheila: absolutely, we all agree.
00:45:23.127 --> 00:45:26.196
It was so clearly explained in this book that current events
00:45:26.263 --> 00:45:30.601
Clearly lined up with biblical prophecy.
00:45:30.601 --> 00:45:32.870
Were there any one or two things in particular that stood out
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For you?
00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:37.975
Dr. jeremiah: everything that we see happening today
00:45:37.975 --> 00:45:39.610
That we don't know what it is,
00:45:39.610 --> 00:45:40.944
If you trace it back to its origin,
00:45:40.944 --> 00:45:42.746
It's a weed growing out of the garden of karl marx.
00:45:42.746 --> 00:45:46.517
Someone said karl marx is ruling the world today from his grave,
00:45:46.517 --> 00:45:50.754
And the ideology that he created with him and his friend engels
00:45:50.754 --> 00:45:54.792
As they developed, "the communist manifesto"
00:45:54.792 --> 00:45:57.995
And developed communism.
00:45:57.995 --> 00:45:59.963
You know, we thought when the berlin wall came down,
00:45:59.963 --> 00:46:02.733
We thought it was over.
00:46:02.733 --> 00:46:04.134
People said communism is finally dead and gone.
00:46:04.134 --> 00:46:06.537
Well, outwardly it might've been,
00:46:06.537 --> 00:46:08.672
But inwardly it wasn't, and it continues.
00:46:08.672 --> 00:46:10.974
I have a map that shows
00:46:10.974 --> 00:46:12.309
The communist countries, it's about a fifth of the world.
00:46:12.309 --> 00:46:16.847
About a fifth of the world is under communism,
00:46:16.847 --> 00:46:19.383
Under socialism.
00:46:19.383 --> 00:46:21.151
So, what i think grabbed me more than anything else is,
00:46:21.151 --> 00:46:24.254
People aren't just a bunch of rowdy kids
00:46:24.254 --> 00:46:26.623
Tearing down monuments.
00:46:26.623 --> 00:46:28.592
This isn't just a bunch of people who hate the police
00:46:28.592 --> 00:46:30.494
And wanna get rid of them.
00:46:30.494 --> 00:46:32.095
This isn't just people who are angry and say,
00:46:32.095 --> 00:46:33.831
No, you can't do that, if you do, i'll cancel you.
00:46:33.831 --> 00:46:36.099
All of those things grow out of the totalitarianism,
00:46:36.099 --> 00:46:41.271
Demonic things that marx did, and we're living
00:46:41.271 --> 00:46:45.342
In the midst of that.
00:46:45.342 --> 00:46:47.010
Sheila: you know, it's interesting,
00:46:47.010 --> 00:46:48.345
Because some people might say, you know,
00:46:48.345 --> 00:46:49.680
When we talk about all these things
00:46:49.680 --> 00:46:51.014
It's kind of doom and gloom, but i have to say personally,
00:46:51.014 --> 00:46:53.116
I found the past year really discouraging,
00:46:53.116 --> 00:46:55.519
But when i got to the end of your book,
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:57.020
I wanted to shout hallelujah, because it wasn't a book
00:46:57.020 --> 00:46:59.523
Of doom and gloom, it was a book of hope.
00:46:59.523 --> 00:47:02.726
Was that your prayer?
00:47:02.726 --> 00:47:04.461
Dr. jeremiah: that's why i said before that i wanted
00:47:04.461 --> 00:47:05.929
This book to be not only where are we now?
00:47:05.929 --> 00:47:08.398
What does that mean, but what do we do?
00:47:08.398 --> 00:47:11.635
And there's always something to do.
00:47:11.635 --> 00:47:13.370
For instance, in the chapter on covid,
00:47:13.370 --> 00:47:15.772
For a while when that first happened, we were,
00:47:15.772 --> 00:47:17.674
You couldn't go anywhere, we had to stay at home,
00:47:17.674 --> 00:47:19.543
And we just kind of didn't do anything,
00:47:19.543 --> 00:47:22.446
And we were so tired at the end of the day
00:47:22.446 --> 00:47:25.015
We couldn't figure out what was wrong.
00:47:25.015 --> 00:47:27.117
We didn't do a blessed thing today, and we're just--
00:47:27.117 --> 00:47:28.819
You guys are laughing 'cause it's what happened, right?
00:47:28.819 --> 00:47:32.656
When you don't have a plan, and i, at that time,
00:47:32.656 --> 00:47:35.459
I had read this little book, and this little book
00:47:35.459 --> 00:47:38.228
Was written by a young lady who had found this poem,
00:47:38.228 --> 00:47:42.833
And the poem was entitled, "do the next right thing,"
00:47:42.833 --> 00:47:48.805
And the poem was written in old english,
00:47:48.805 --> 00:47:51.341
And actually the title of it was spelled in old english,
00:47:51.341 --> 00:47:54.778
And the idea was, when you don't know what to do,
00:47:54.778 --> 00:47:58.248
Which many of us didn't know what to do then,
00:47:58.248 --> 00:48:00.617
Just do the next right thing.
00:48:00.617 --> 00:48:03.153
And we started to practice that, and we still do.
00:48:03.153 --> 00:48:05.555
I mean, we still do today, because even today
00:48:05.555 --> 00:48:08.091
There's so much confusion.
00:48:08.091 --> 00:48:09.760
So, if you don't learn how to do that,
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:11.662
You will just be overwhelmed with all of the things
00:48:11.662 --> 00:48:14.598
That aren't done, and you'll sit there,
00:48:14.598 --> 00:48:16.500
And it's like the paralysis of analysis, you know?
00:48:16.500 --> 00:48:19.469
You sit there, you got all this stuff to do
00:48:19.469 --> 00:48:21.305
And you don't know what to do next.
00:48:21.305 --> 00:48:22.639
Just do the next thing.
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:24.074
And here's the interesting thing that i've found.
00:48:24.074 --> 00:48:26.209
When jesus healed people, he was saying to them,
00:48:26.209 --> 00:48:30.981
Go home and tell your family.
00:48:30.981 --> 00:48:32.916
Every time he healed somebody, he gave them one thing to do.
00:48:32.916 --> 00:48:36.253
It was amazing to me when i saw it, there's, like,
00:48:36.253 --> 00:48:37.854
Eight illustrations of that.
00:48:37.854 --> 00:48:39.523
Go home and do this, go do that, go tell your brother, go--
00:48:39.523 --> 00:48:43.260
And that's how i hear jesus saying that to us.
00:48:43.260 --> 00:48:46.596
Get up in the morning and say, even if you don't know for sure
00:48:46.596 --> 00:48:49.433
What to do, do the next right thing.
00:48:49.433 --> 00:48:51.702
God will show you what the next right thing is,
00:48:51.702 --> 00:48:53.904
And before you know it, you'll look back on a productive day.
00:48:53.904 --> 00:48:56.740
And you won't be so tired.
00:48:56.740 --> 00:48:58.942
Sheila: god, that's good advice, i think.
00:49:00.243 --> 00:49:02.112
Just one thing i was thinking about.
00:49:03.347 --> 00:49:05.015
You know, you're not just a pastor and a father,
00:49:05.015 --> 00:49:06.984
You have twelve grandchildren, and i wondered as you finished
00:49:06.984 --> 00:49:10.454
This book and this series, how did that impact you
00:49:10.454 --> 00:49:14.191
And what you were writing?
00:49:14.191 --> 00:49:15.826
Dr. jeremiah: i think all of us who are my age and maybe
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A little bit younger, little bit older, we all feel like,
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I'm gonna make it, i'm gonna make it through this life,
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I'm gonna, you know, i'll get to heaven,
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And i probably won't be beat up in the process.
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But boy i'm telling you what, when you think
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Of the next generation coming after us and the one after that.
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One of my grandchildren got engaged, and i thought,
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Oh my goodness, i wonder what life will be like for them.
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I'd rather be where i am than where he is.
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I mean that sincerely, i mean, i like,
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I think being young is cool and all that,
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But i know what it was like for us to go through life
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And face the challenges, and they're way more difficult
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Now than they were then.
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Sheila: when we walk out of these doors or turn off
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The television set, where do we go,
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How do we approach the world we're living in now?
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Dr. jeremiah: well, first thing i hope people will do
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Is realize we have so much to be positive about,
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So much to be thankful for.
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We have the message, we have the real message
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Of what life is all about.
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We know what to do, and we-- most of us have come to christ,
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We're christians.
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Is life challenging?
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Yes, but we're not alone.
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God has not forgotten us, and we are on our way
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To be with him forever.
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So, the journey can sometimes be challenging,
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But it's always exciting.
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I'll tell you the truth, i've been here in this church
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For 40 years, i've been discouraged sometimes,
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I've been triumphant sometimes, but one thing i've never been,
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I've never been bored.
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Sheila: ha, ha, ha, i'm sure.
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Well, dr. jeremiah, i just want to thank you for putting
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The hope in these days, the hope in end times prophecy,
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For giving us encouragement one more time for putting peace
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Into the problems that we see, and i wondered,
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Would you pray for us to bring this to a close?
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Dr. jeremiah: father, we thank you
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That you have listened to this conversation,
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You've been a part of what we've been thinking
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And talking about.
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You know every situation that's represented,
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Not only in the lives of the people who're here
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In our audience, but those who are watching
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And listening and sharing.
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I pray that you will speak into every one of our hearts
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The wonderful truth of the gospel and the hope that is ours
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In christ, and, lord, don't let us become discouraged
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With the things that are happening around us,
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Help us to know that the one in whom we have put our trust
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To take us to heaven is surely able to help us get
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Through the journey with our hands up high.
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I pray that you will fill us with a sense of your presence
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And help us, lord, to know that there is a wonderful opportunity
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For us to make a difference in our world.
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Help us to reach out to those that we know
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With this wonderful message of truth and encouragement.
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Lord, i pray that you will also help us to be determined
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That we will not live in a lie, that we'll live in the truth.
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We will be your people in the midst of this time,
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Whatever that means.
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Help us to be wise and help us to be courageous,
00:52:13.336 --> 00:52:17.107
Help us to be good and godly people
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That we might bring the testimony of jesus christ
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Not only in word, but in our life as well.
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Thank you for the privilege of talking
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About these important issues.
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In jesus's name, amen.
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Sheila: amen.
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Would you help me thank dr. jeremiah?
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♪ soon and very soon ♪
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♪ soon and very soon ♪
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♪ we are going to see the king ♪
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♪ oh, hallelujah, hallelujah ♪
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♪ no more crying there ♪
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♪ no more crying there ♪
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♪ no more crying there ♪
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♪ we are going to see the king ♪
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♪ hallelujah, hallelujah ♪
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♪ we are going to see the king ♪
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♪ no more dying there ♪
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♪ we are going to see the king ♪
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♪ no more dying there ♪
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♪ well, we are gonna, gonna see the king, yeah ♪
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♪ no more dying there ♪
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♪ we are going to see the king ♪
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♪ hallelujah, hallelujah ♪
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♪ whoa, soon and very soon ♪
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♪ soon and very soon ♪
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The news is always good.
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Dr. jeremiah: there is coming a utopia
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Better than anyone can ever imagine,
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Better than we can imagine.
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Isaiah 9:6-7 describes a time when the government
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Will be upon the shoulder of jesus christ.
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When jesus returns, things will be different, amen?
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David Jeremiah - Where Do We Go From Here? Interview

March 7, 2026 | 57:29

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