Ed Young - Mountain of Validation

June 4, 2025 | S25:E134

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The Winning Walk with Dr. Ed Young | Ed Young - Mountain of Validation | June 4, 2025
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  • Dr. ed young: so, we're going to climb up the mount
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  • Of transfiguration.
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  • Now, people have asked the question,
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  • "well, where is the mount of transfiguration?"
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  • A lot of people think it's mount horeb and that's what jerome
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  • Said, and i've been on top of mount horeb,
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  • And i think it says mount horeb because it's nothing but
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  • About 1,800 feet high, and you can get up there rather easily.
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  • I think it was done for the tourists so they can show us
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  • Where the mount of transfiguration was.
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  • I don't believe it was there.
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  • I think it's on mount hermon.
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  • Mount hermon is, you know, way up there, 10,000 feet high, hard
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  • To get to, but geographically when you look at what was
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  • Happening prior to the transfiguration experience,
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  • It makes sense, because mount hermon is about 10 miles
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  • Southwest of the sea of galilee.
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  • And we know, as you read these three gospels--by the way,
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  • The story of the mount of transfiguration is told
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  • In three gospels, and you got three different stories.
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  • They're alike, but they're different.
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  • You say, "aha! that's an error in the bible."
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  • Let me tell you something.
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  • If i told all of us to go home and write down what happened in
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  • Church today, you'd think we went to 40 different churches,
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  • But we have the insight led by the holy spirit of three
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  • Individuals who tells us what happened on the mountain.
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  • To me, this gives unusual validity
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  • To the truth of the story.
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  • They don't perfectly coincide, and so we see there on the mount
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  • Of transfiguration, mount hermon, and we have to, sort of,
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  • Walk into it by previous scripture, and i wanna read
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  • There what happened.
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  • This also, at the foot of the mountain there,
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  • This is caesarea philippi.
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  • It's the headwaters of the jordan river and that's where
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  • Jesus took his apostles on a retreat and he questioned them,
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  • As he was discipling them, and he said,
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  • "who do people say that i am?
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  • What is the news on the street?"
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  • He said, "well, some think you're elijah, some jeremiah,"
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  • Et cetera, et cetera.
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  • He said, "but what i wanna know as jesus,
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  • Who do you think i am?"
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  • Old simon peter, once in a while he got it right.
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  • He said, "thou art the christ, the son of the living god," and
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  • Then we see jesus lays on them some strong, strong words, and
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  • You have to read these in the gospel according to luke.
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  • He said, "if anyone wishes to come after me, he must deny
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  • Himself, and take up his cross daily and follow me.
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  • For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, whoever loses
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  • His life for my sake, he is the one who will save it.
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  • For what is a man profited if he gains the whole world,
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  • And he forfeits his soul?"
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  • I have a feeling about this time those apostles are saying,
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  • "what have we gotten into?"
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  • Jesus has already told them he's gonna die and be resurrected.
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  • They said, "we didn't know death was in this."
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  • And now he tells them, "you have to die daily
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  • In order to follow me."
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  • He said, "no, i didn't count on this."
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  • And he said, "if you wanna find your life,
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  • You gotta throw your life away."
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  • He said, "if you hoard your life, you're gonna lose it,"
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  • And then that devastating word.
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  • Listen carefully, ladies and gentlemen.
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  • You may have never heard it before.
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  • You may have heard it many times in church.
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  • He said, "let me tell you something.
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  • Let me tell you something very, very important.
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  • What will it profit you, how will you get ahead,
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  • If you gain the whole world, boy, you get the whole world,
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  • And you lose your soul?"
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  • Let me remind you what your soul is and what my soul is.
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  • The soul is everything about you that is not physical.
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  • Atoms, molecules, the body: physical.
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  • Everything about you and me that's not physical
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  • Would be our spirit, our mind.
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  • Not our brain. brain is physical.
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  • Our spirit, our choices, everything--the idea that
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  • We're built--the concept that we're built in the image of god.
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  • This is all a part of our soul, or you could take your body and
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  • My body and junk it, throw it away, it doesn't exist.
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  • Bury it.
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  • Our soul, the essence of who you are,
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  • The essence of who i am, is still valid.
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  • It's still there.
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  • We don't wanna lose that.
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  • That's precious, because we one day, because of christ, we'll be
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  • United with a whole lot better body than this old body, and
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  • That's the resurrection body that we'll have in eternity.
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  • So, all this was laid on those apostles.
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  • That's heavy traffic, isn't it?
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  • You gotta die every day.
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  • All the things you've been looking for on this life doesn't
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  • Mean poof if you lose the essence of who you are.
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  • Now, after this challenge six or eight days went by.
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  • One of the gospel accounts said six.
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  • One says eight.
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  • You can read it, the account of the mount of transfiguration
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  • In luke 9, mark 9, in matthew 12.
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  • It's right there for you and then you put it all together,
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  • And i'm gonna, sort of, walk through it with us
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  • And ask three questions.
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  • First of all, who was on the mountain?
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  • Jesus took with him peter, james, and john, and they walked
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  • Up a mountain about 10,000 feet high.
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  • That's a pretty good jaunt, if you know anything about walking
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  • Up a mountain or climbing a mountain, 10,000 feet.
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  • When they get up there, by the way, peter, james,
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  • And john went to sleep.
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  • Every time it seemed like the lord needed them, they were
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  • Asleep, in the garden, et cetera, but he took his three
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  • Superheroes with him, his super apostles with him.
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  • I wonder why.
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  • We know that james died first, john died last,
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  • Peter was in the middle,
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  • And we know they were strategic people,
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  • And we see they woke up at the top of the mountain,
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  • And they give out, exhausted.
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  • I understand that physically, don't you?
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  • And they went to sleep and then who was on the mountain?
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  • Those three, plus jesus.
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  • And when they awakened, two people had joined them,
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  • Because transfigured there was elijah and moses.
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  • Moses and elijah.
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  • Moses had been dead, you know, 13, 1,400 years, elijah
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  • 7 or 800 years, and there they were on the mountain.
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  • That's something, isn't it?
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  • I wonder why moses and elijah were there on the mount
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  • Of transfiguration with jesus and his group.
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  • Why those two?
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  • Why couldn't have been old jeremiah, daniel?
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  • I think joseph could have been choice up there.
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  • Why these two on the mountain?
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  • First of all, they were there to be a witness, perhaps.
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  • Somebody say, "boy, here is a supernatural experience.
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  • I mean, who was up there can verify it?"
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  • You got three witnesses.
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  • They took that in a court of law in that day to verify something.
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  • Three witnesses and, perhaps,
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  • I think most of all it's because of who they were.
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  • Who was moses?
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  • Author of the pentateuch: genesis, exodus, leviticus,
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  • Numbers, deuteronomy.
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  • Moses was the law giver.
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  • And what about elijah?
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  • He was the supreme prophet.
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  • We've already seen him in action on mount carmel,
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  • So you have the law giver and the prophet.
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  • And who was jesus?
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  • We know jesus fulfilled all the principles of the law and
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  • Amplified them in his teaching, especially on the beatitudes,
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  • So we see jesus was there fulfilling the law, living the
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  • Law, and fulfilling all the prophecy.
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  • Here is these predictions written down thousands of years
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  • And here is jesus.
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  • He filled all of them up.
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  • Two strategic individuals.
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  • So, we see who was up there.
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  • Now, we ask what happened, and you need to read it
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  • When you get home.
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  • I'll tell you what happened.
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  • When these three guys awakened, whoosh, the whole mountain
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  • Was full of the shekinah, the glory of god.
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  • One of the writers tells us that jesus looked like the sun,
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  • The brilliance of the sun.
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  • It was like his whole body was like lightning,
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  • And so was elijah and moses, and this was the shekinah
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  • Which was come down in a cloud.
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  • It indicates a very actual reality: living presence of god.
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  • By the way, the bible says you can't see god and live.
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  • For you and me, you know what that means?
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  • I think if we see god or have an experience of god,
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  • We can't live as we live before we saw god, before we met god,
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  • And so we see this experience of the shekinah has come.
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  • The shekinah, the presence of god,
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  • We can trace it quickly as we walk through the scripture.
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  • Not every little event, but the moment of the shekinah,
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  • God coming, god in reality.
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  • We go back to moses there as he led the children of israel in
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  • The wilderness during those 40 years.
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  • And what happened?
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  • The shekinah was there in the fire that warmed them,
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  • Because it's cold in sinai at night.
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  • I've been there.
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  • The fire warmed them and the fire guided them.
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  • That was the presence of god, the fire of god.
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  • The shekinah was there and then you move on in and you see moses
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  • Went up on the mountain and got the law, remember?
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  • The first time and the second time when he came back,
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  • His face was alive with the reflected shekinah glory
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  • Of god, and the people said, "man, veil your face.
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  • We can't face you.
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  • It's too much to see and feel the power of god,"
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  • And his face was veiled.
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  • Remember that?
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  • Moses didn't know it at that time.
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  • Shekinah.
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  • Then there was a tabernacle that was built--specific, detailed
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  • Descriptions in the bible--and they would pick it up and move
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  • It when the children of israel, perhaps a million-plus, would be
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  • Moved around in that wilderness area of sinai, those 40 years in
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  • God's preparation for going in the holy land.
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  • And then as they move that tabernacle, we know the shekinah
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  • Was there, the place, the house of meeting was there.
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  • And then you see the shekinah was once again placed
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  • In the temple.
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  • Solomon built the temple in the holy of holies.
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  • The shekinah, the living presence of god was there
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  • And then all of a sudden the presence of god is there,
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  • But through the years, the worship of the people,
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  • The fear of god began to be--withdraw from the people.
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  • Let me ask you something.
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  • Is god fearful to you?
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  • There should be an element of the fear of god.
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  • If shekinah came here, if jesus walked in this room,
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  • We wouldn't stand and shout and give him a standing ovation,
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  • Ladies and gentlemen.
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  • I can promise you that we would fall on our faces and most of us
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  • Would crawl out of his presence.
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  • The presence of the living god reveals everything.
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  • The shekinah was there, but in the temple the worship became
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  • Confused and distorted and all of a sudden solomon--remember he
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  • Took the queen of sheba there, and she said,
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  • "oh, what a magnificent place."
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  • You see, solomon now was getting his ego fed through the temple
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  • Of the living god and then 400 years went by.
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  • Ezekiel chapter number 10.
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  • Zeke writes there inspired by god, saying what was happening
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  • In the temple, and he talks about wheels and wheels,
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  • And he talks about the shekinah glory was there,
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  • And the shekinah glory went in one part of the temple
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  • And the other part of the temple.
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  • In other words, you kinda could not remain at the temple.
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  • Why?
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  • Seventy elders of israel had gone into solomon's temple--it
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  • Had been built and rebuilt--had gone in the temple,
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  • And they had put altars, idols named after them.
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  • It's like they took stained-glass windows with their
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  • Picture and put a offering area under it and all around the
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  • Temple, the walls, there were the pictures of the elders
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  • Where they're offering for them, under it, all around the temple
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  • Of the lord, all around it.
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  • And the shekinah, the presence of god, could not dwell in a
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  • Place that become a pagan place, and it pictures there
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  • In that passage shekinah goes around the temple,
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  • Then the shekinah goes out the door.
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  • Shekinah glory, the presence of god, hovers over the mount of
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  • Olives and then shekinah is gone.
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  • The glory of god is gone, and the word is "ichabod,"
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  • The glory has departed.
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  • Ichabod.
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  • The presence of god has departed.
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  • Six hundred years go by.
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  • As far as the bible tells us, no cloud, no presence, no shekinah,
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  • And then those shepherds outside of bethlehem, the heavenly host
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  • Praising god and saying, "glory to god in the highest and on
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  • Earth good will toward men."
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  • The shekinah returned after 600 years.
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  • The next appearance: the mount of transfiguration
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  • That we're looking at.
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  • Here are these guys up there with jesus,
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  • Including moses, elijah.
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  • Now the shekinah comes and falls on them, the presence of the
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  • Living god.
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  • And then what was the result of this?
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  • Read it there in the scripture.
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  • Very, very interesting.
  • 00:15:52.808 --> 00:15:54.243
  • As elijah and moses were departing, peter, the bible
  • 00:15:54.243 --> 00:15:59.481
  • Says, he didn't know what to say, but he spoke anyway.
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  • My version.
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  • That's what he said.
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  • Boy, i've done that.
  • 00:16:06.422 --> 00:16:07.756
  • I don't have anything to say but i wanna say, and he said,
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  • "let's build three tabernacles," three lean-tos, three huts:
  • 00:16:13.028 --> 00:16:19.735
  • One for moses, one for elijah, and jesus.
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  • We could build one for you, too.
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  • I mean, you're right there with them.
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  • You're glowing.
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  • The shekinah has fallen on you, as well.
  • 00:16:29.111 --> 00:16:30.579
  • What was peter saying?
  • 00:16:30.579 --> 00:16:31.914
  • He was saying, "it's so great up here, this mountaintop
  • 00:16:31.914 --> 00:16:34.483
  • Experience with jesus and moses and elijah.
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  • Let's stay up here.
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  • Let's live up here.
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  • I love the emotion, the mountain,
  • 00:16:40.622 --> 00:16:43.192
  • The shekinah, the presence of god.
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  • Boy, this is the end of end all.
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  • Let's stay on top of the mountain."
  • 00:16:47.496 --> 00:16:50.599
  • But then, you know what happened?
  • 00:16:50.599 --> 00:16:52.634
  • The cloud, the shekinah, came closer and closer, and moses and
  • 00:16:52.634 --> 00:16:57.406
  • Elijah was gone, and then they looked up and jesus stood alone.
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  • Jesus stood alone.
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  • That's it, ladies and gentlemen.
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  • Jesus stands alone as the son of the living god.
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  • [congregation applauding]
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  • Ed: then they spent the night.
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  • The bible says now they went down the mountain.
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  • When he got down the mountain, guess what was happening?
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  • There was a lot of people there, a mob, and there was a father
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  • There with a boy that--and he runs to jesus.
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  • He falls before jesus.
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  • He said, "jesus, here is my boy,"
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  • And the boy was demon-possessed.
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  • He has a seizure.
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  • The father tells him, "he's had this for years," and said he'd
  • 00:17:48.957 --> 00:17:52.094
  • Throw himself in the water.
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  • He'd throw himself in the fire, he was suicidal, and he was so
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  • Sick, and he was so demon-possessed, and the father
  • 00:17:57.332 --> 00:18:03.172
  • Went to jesus and said, "jesus, heal my boy.
  • 00:18:03.172 --> 00:18:08.810
  • I brought him here for you to heal him.
  • 00:18:08.810 --> 00:18:12.414
  • And your apostles had tried."
  • 00:18:12.414 --> 00:18:14.449
  • Remember nine of them were left at the foot of the mountain.
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  • Three went up with jesus, and they tried to heal him,
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  • And they couldn't do it.
  • 00:18:19.688 --> 00:18:22.991
  • In other words, your press went out and said you were going
  • 00:18:22.991 --> 00:18:26.228
  • Around and your people were healing people
  • 00:18:26.228 --> 00:18:27.963
  • And that was true.
  • 00:18:27.963 --> 00:18:29.565
  • The two by two had went out.
  • 00:18:29.565 --> 00:18:31.166
  • They'd began to heal people all over the area.
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  • They heard jesus was there.
  • 00:18:33.535 --> 00:18:34.870
  • They ran there, this father, in desperation.
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  • Can you imagine the life that he and his family lived
  • 00:18:37.639 --> 00:18:40.709
  • With this kind of ailment?
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  • Unbelievable.
  • 00:18:42.711 --> 00:18:44.846
  • We know people who go through that,
  • 00:18:44.846 --> 00:18:46.381
  • With special kind of challenges.
  • 00:18:46.381 --> 00:18:48.450
  • Unbelievable, and the father was desperate.
  • 00:18:48.450 --> 00:18:50.485
  • He said, "your pr said that, man, your apostles
  • 00:18:50.485 --> 00:18:54.022
  • And you heal people, and they've tried to heal him,
  • 00:18:54.022 --> 00:18:56.091
  • And they've been unsuccessful."
  • 00:18:56.091 --> 00:18:59.494
  • And jesus asked the usual questions,
  • 00:18:59.494 --> 00:19:01.863
  • "how long has he been like this?" et cetera.
  • 00:19:01.863 --> 00:19:03.932
  • And then jesus looked at the father and said,
  • 00:19:03.932 --> 00:19:06.568
  • "if you can believe, all things are possible."
  • 00:19:06.568 --> 00:19:12.641
  • You know, if i'd been that dad--i thought about that--i'd
  • 00:19:12.641 --> 00:19:15.544
  • Say, "lord, i believe you can do it.
  • 00:19:15.544 --> 00:19:18.080
  • Oh, yeah, if all things are possible,
  • 00:19:18.080 --> 00:19:20.215
  • All i have to do is have faith.
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  • Man, i have faith. i believe."
  • 00:19:23.018 --> 00:19:24.953
  • I think i would have said that probably,
  • 00:19:24.953 --> 00:19:27.889
  • But that would not have been totally true.
  • 00:19:27.889 --> 00:19:30.559
  • What did that father say to jesus?
  • 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.662
  • He said, "lord, i believe, i have faith,
  • 00:19:33.662 --> 00:19:38.634
  • But i want you to help my unbelief.
  • 00:19:38.634 --> 00:19:41.370
  • Your apostles couldn't heal him.
  • 00:19:41.370 --> 00:19:43.739
  • I believe you can, but i have faith, but i'm just not sure.
  • 00:19:43.739 --> 00:19:48.377
  • I have doubts."
  • 00:19:48.377 --> 00:19:51.346
  • Do you have any doubts? don't worry about your doubts.
  • 00:19:51.346 --> 00:19:54.416
  • Doubt your doubts. be honest with your doubt.
  • 00:19:54.416 --> 00:19:57.252
  • That is a wonderful asset we have, because it challenges us
  • 00:19:57.252 --> 00:20:01.023
  • To doubt our doubts and go through to faith.
  • 00:20:01.023 --> 00:20:03.392
  • The father was honest.
  • 00:20:03.392 --> 00:20:04.726
  • "lord, i believe, but help my unbelief," and jesus honored
  • 00:20:04.726 --> 00:20:10.032
  • That and healed the boy.
  • 00:20:10.032 --> 00:20:13.368
  • And what a celebration it was and then later on,
  • 00:20:13.368 --> 00:20:17.939
  • If you read all the text, the apostles ask jesus,
  • 00:20:17.939 --> 00:20:25.914
  • "why couldn't we heal him?
  • 00:20:25.914 --> 00:20:27.883
  • We'd healed other people.
  • 00:20:27.883 --> 00:20:29.318
  • We'd been out all over the country.
  • 00:20:29.318 --> 00:20:31.019
  • Why couldn't we do it?"
  • 00:20:31.019 --> 00:20:33.722
  • And jesus says, i think in matthew's account, "this kind,"
  • 00:20:33.722 --> 00:20:38.293
  • K-i-n-d, "cannot be healed except by prayer and fasting."
  • 00:20:38.293 --> 00:20:45.300
  • Prayer and fasting.
  • 00:20:45.300 --> 00:20:47.803
  • Oh, it was a deeper kind of healing that was necessary.
  • 00:20:47.803 --> 00:20:54.576
  • You see, what is our challenge on this?
  • 00:20:54.576 --> 00:20:57.913
  • A lot of us love the top of the mountain: worship, praise,
  • 00:20:57.913 --> 00:21:02.718
  • Church, read the bible.
  • 00:21:02.718 --> 00:21:05.120
  • We like the mountain, but we go down in the valley,
  • 00:21:05.120 --> 00:21:09.191
  • And we don't like to get in the demon-filled valley, do we?
  • 00:21:09.191 --> 00:21:13.562
  • The apostles failed in the valley because they hadn't been
  • 00:21:13.562 --> 00:21:16.998
  • Up on the mountain and those are the mountains jesus,
  • 00:21:16.998 --> 00:21:20.669
  • And i believe the other apostles, too,
  • 00:21:20.669 --> 00:21:22.938
  • They were successful because they'd been on the mountain.
  • 00:21:22.938 --> 00:21:25.407
  • It's a difference between worship and work.
  • 00:21:25.407 --> 00:21:29.978
  • Some of us, we wanna do work.
  • 00:21:29.978 --> 00:21:31.713
  • I mean, if we had a crisis, we can go in there, and we're ready
  • 00:21:31.713 --> 00:21:34.282
  • To do something for god, but we try to work without being on the
  • 00:21:34.282 --> 00:21:37.819
  • Mountain and our work in the valley doesn't work very well
  • 00:21:37.819 --> 00:21:42.090
  • Because we haven't spent time on the mountain.
  • 00:21:42.090 --> 00:21:45.227
  • We spend all of our time on the mountain in praise and prayer
  • 00:21:45.227 --> 00:21:48.897
  • And worship and say, "boy, i have this great feeling," and we
  • 00:21:48.897 --> 00:21:52.601
  • Don't go down in the valley to do business with the demons
  • 00:21:52.601 --> 00:21:56.505
  • That are all a part of our culture and our world,
  • 00:21:56.505 --> 00:22:00.075
  • So there has to be balance between worship and work.
  • 00:22:00.075 --> 00:22:03.578
  • There has to be balance.
  • 00:22:03.578 --> 00:22:05.080
  • We need to go to the mountain so we'll be able to be effective
  • 00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:07.616
  • In the valley, and we're effective in the valley
  • 00:22:07.616 --> 00:22:10.485
  • Because we've been to the mountain.
  • 00:22:10.485 --> 00:22:12.854
  • Do you get it? it's a balanced christian life.
  • 00:22:12.854 --> 00:22:21.029
  • How important that is, the mountain and the valley.
  • 00:22:21.029 --> 00:22:27.936
  • We can do business in the valley when we spend time with god on
  • 00:22:27.936 --> 00:22:31.440
  • The mountain, and our work in the valley becomes very weak
  • 00:22:31.440 --> 00:22:35.310
  • Unless we spend time in the mountain.
  • 00:22:35.310 --> 00:22:37.512
  • And we can spend our whole time in the mountain and spend our
  • 00:22:37.512 --> 00:22:40.382
  • Whole time in the mountain and never really take the courage to
  • 00:22:40.382 --> 00:22:44.953
  • Go down in the valley and make a difference for god and christ
  • 00:22:44.953 --> 00:22:48.890
  • Where he's placed us, so it's a matter of faith,
  • 00:22:48.890 --> 00:22:53.595
  • Having the right object, and then the feelings come.
  • 00:22:53.595 --> 00:22:58.433
  • People run around saying, "boy, i've got so much faith, pastor."
  • 00:22:58.433 --> 00:23:01.636
  • Faith in what?
  • 00:23:01.636 --> 00:23:03.305
  • "well, i've got faith in life, and i got faith in god,
  • 00:23:03.305 --> 00:23:07.375
  • And i got--"
  • 00:23:07.375 --> 00:23:08.710
  • Faith in a generalized sense,
  • 00:23:08.710 --> 00:23:11.213
  • Ladies and gentlemen, doesn't mean zip.
  • 00:23:11.213 --> 00:23:15.484
  • Poof. faith has to have an object.
  • 00:23:15.484 --> 00:23:20.622
  • That object needs to be truth and fact and reality
  • 00:23:20.622 --> 00:23:23.525
  • Of experience and relationships.
  • 00:23:23.525 --> 00:23:26.561
  • Here is a little boy.
  • 00:23:26.561 --> 00:23:29.564
  • Got out of school, has his backpack on.
  • 00:23:29.564 --> 00:23:32.868
  • He walks out to the street.
  • 00:23:32.868 --> 00:23:34.769
  • He gets in the middle of the street.
  • 00:23:34.769 --> 00:23:36.438
  • Not on the corner, standing on the curb with his backpack,
  • 00:23:36.438 --> 00:23:39.641
  • Standing there.
  • 00:23:39.641 --> 00:23:41.543
  • Businessman comes out of the building.
  • 00:23:41.543 --> 00:23:43.278
  • He walks by, and he said, "sonny, what are you doing?"
  • 00:23:43.278 --> 00:23:45.380
  • He said, "i'm gonna catch the bus."
  • 00:23:45.380 --> 00:23:47.215
  • He said, "no, no, no," he said, "you can't catch the bus there."
  • 00:23:47.215 --> 00:23:50.018
  • He said, "the bus doesn't stop in the middle of a block."
  • 00:23:50.018 --> 00:23:52.420
  • He said, "you gotta walk up there and turn right,
  • 00:23:52.420 --> 00:23:54.456
  • Cross the street, and go to the bus stop.
  • 00:23:54.456 --> 00:23:55.824
  • That's where the bus stops."
  • 00:23:55.824 --> 00:23:58.093
  • He said, "no, sir.
  • 00:23:58.093 --> 00:23:59.427
  • I've got faith the bus is gonna stop here."
  • 00:23:59.427 --> 00:24:01.730
  • The businessman said, "sonny, listen to me.
  • 00:24:01.730 --> 00:24:03.465
  • I'm telling you the bus is not gonna stop there."
  • 00:24:03.465 --> 00:24:05.600
  • He said, "i think it will.
  • 00:24:05.600 --> 00:24:07.769
  • I got faith it will."
  • 00:24:07.769 --> 00:24:09.938
  • The businessman said, "all righted.
  • 00:24:09.938 --> 00:24:11.640
  • Arrogant little kid. what does he know?"
  • 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.776
  • In a few minutes here comes the bus chugging down the road.
  • 00:24:14.776 --> 00:24:17.846
  • It comes over there and stops at the bus stop, it picks up,
  • 00:24:17.846 --> 00:24:20.382
  • And it stops right there in front of the kid.
  • 00:24:20.382 --> 00:24:23.318
  • The businessman is stunned.
  • 00:24:23.318 --> 00:24:26.588
  • He can't believe it, and the kid puts his pack on.
  • 00:24:26.588 --> 00:24:30.425
  • He steps off the curb, he walks up, the bus door opens, he walks
  • 00:24:30.425 --> 00:24:34.563
  • Up the steps, he turns around, and he said, "mister, i had
  • 00:24:34.563 --> 00:24:36.932
  • Faith because--see, the bus driver, he's my daddy."
  • 00:24:36.932 --> 00:24:45.707
  • Faith had an object.
  • 00:24:45.707 --> 00:24:49.978
  • Therefore faith was confident of what was going to happen.
  • 00:24:49.978 --> 00:24:55.784
  • On the mountain our faith is kindled.
  • 00:24:55.784 --> 00:24:59.254
  • It's not just faith in faith, but it's faith and the object
  • 00:24:59.254 --> 00:25:02.290
  • Of the reality of the power of god we find
  • 00:25:02.290 --> 00:25:05.860
  • As we walk in jesus christ.
  • 00:25:05.860 --> 00:25:09.230
  • Therefore the bus is gonna stop.
  • 00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:13.168
  • Get on the bus, because the driver of those of us who get on
  • 00:25:13.168 --> 00:25:19.274
  • The bus of life is jesus christ himself, and he'll give you
  • 00:25:19.274 --> 00:25:24.346
  • The ride of a lifetime.
  • 00:25:24.346 --> 00:25:27.749
  • Ed: do you know what our home in heaven will be like?
  • 00:25:27.816 --> 00:25:31.186
  • The truth is, most christians don't really know much about the
  • 00:25:31.186 --> 00:25:34.122
  • Place we'll call home for all eternity.
  • 00:25:34.122 --> 00:25:37.459
  • As a result, they miss out on the joy and encouragement that
  • 00:25:37.459 --> 00:25:41.396
  • An understanding of heaven can give us.
  • 00:25:41.396 --> 00:25:44.733
  • I want to help you know your future home better by sending
  • 00:25:44.733 --> 00:25:48.770
  • You a booklet entitled, "heaven."
  • 00:25:48.770 --> 00:25:51.473
  • In these pages you'll find an empowering new perspective of
  • 00:25:51.473 --> 00:25:55.043
  • The heaven that awaits you and me as children of god.
  • 00:25:55.043 --> 00:25:59.247
  • And my prayer is that this future assurance will give us
  • 00:25:59.247 --> 00:26:02.517
  • Confidence to live boldly in the 21st century.
  • 00:26:02.517 --> 00:26:07.455
  • I'll send you a copy of "heaven" as a thanks for your gift of
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  • Support for this ministry.
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  • When you give to "the winning walk," you become a part of this
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  • Family, and nothing is more exciting to know that those who
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  • Are in christ understand that in heaven we'll feel more at home
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  • There than we do at any time and any place as we live on this
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  • Earth.
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  • So, thank you for standing with us, for making this broadcast
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  • Possible as it goes around the world, telling people how to
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  • Know christ and have confidence of the future which can be
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  • Understood by understanding heaven.
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  • ♪♪♪
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