Andy Stanley - The Games We Play

January 31, 2026 | 28:29

Your Move with Andy Stanley — to help people make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.

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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andy Stanley - The Games We Play | January 31, 2026
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  • Andy stanley: hi everybody.
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  • Welcome to "your move" where we help you make better decisions
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  • And live with fewer regrets.
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  • I'm andy stanley and i'll be your guide.
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  • Every once in a while somebody asks me why i'm a christian, and
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  • My answer is simple.
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  • I say, "because following jesus has made my life better and
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  • Following jesus makes me better at life.
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  • Now, it's not always easier, but it sure is better.
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  • And why it's better is what we're talking about today right
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  • Here on "your move."
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Andy: most of us like some sort of game, board games, outdoor
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  • Games, actual competition, competing with yourself if you
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  • Just love solitaire.
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  • Solitaire is actually competition with
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  • Yourself, right?
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  • Or against the deck of cards.
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  • But anyway, whether we're actually participating in
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  • Competition or watching competition, we--or watching
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  • Other people compete, we all love some sort of game, some
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  • Sort of competition.
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  • You actually may have been inspired to pick up a game or
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  • Start a sport when you were young or maybe even not so young
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  • By watching somebody else play and they made it look so easy
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  • Because professionals make everything look so easy and then
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  • You got out there and you were-- we'll just say that you were
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  • Over-inspired.
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  • You were so inspired you went out and now you have--you call
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  • It a sports injury.
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  • It's not actually a sports injury.
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  • You hurt yourself getting out of the car to go try this or learn
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  • This new thing, right?
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  • But all of us have been so inspired by people who are so
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  • Good at something.
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  • And it may not even be a physical, a sport that requires
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  • Physical agility, maybe an online game or online gaming or
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  • Some sort of game, but we all love watching competition and
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  • Most of us at some level love to compete.
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  • Years ago i got invited to go visit a church in south carolina
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  • To do some training for their staff.
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  • And it was a large church.
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  • So, i went during the week.
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  • And so we had two morning sessions and then they said,
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  • "after lunch, our staff, we have an annual dodgeball tournament."
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  • And i noticed that during the sessions, all the staff, is
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  • Pretty big staff, they all had on jerseys, like,
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  • Different colors.
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  • There were four different teams.
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  • I'm like, wow, this is like a serious thing.
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  • So after lunch, i was gonna head home, but i thought i gotta
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  • See this.
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  • So we start, we walk out to this outdoor dodgeball tournament
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  • Area they'd set up.
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  • And everybody had on a jersey, even the pastor, but the only
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  • Person who didn't was the pastor's wife and she was
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  • On staff.
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  • And so we're walking out with a group and i said, "so you're not
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  • Really into dodgeball."
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  • And every--literally, the whole group stopped and the pastor
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  • Looked at his wife and then she looked at me and she said, "they
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  • Don't allow me to play."
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  • I'm like, what?
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  • And the pastor said she's too competitive.
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  • I'm like, "i bet there's some stories there."
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  • So anyway, you may be that person, you're like, you know,
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  • You're super competitive, but anyway, for the most part we
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  • Enjoy watching other people compete and at some level
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  • There's probably some gaming going on and some sort of
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  • Competition that you enjoy as well.
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  • But there is one area or to stay with the sports analogy, there
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  • Is one arena, there's one arena or one area where competition
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  • And games should be off limits because they're harmful, they're
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  • Toxic, i don't know, lethal may be too strong of a term, but
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  • They're just not healthy and they should be avoided at
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  • All costs.
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  • And that is in the realm or the arena or the area of
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  • Relationships, because relationally speaking, and all
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  • Of us, all of us have experienced this, okay, this
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  • Isn't new information.
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  • All of us have experienced this.
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  • Relationally speaking, relationally speaking, a game
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  • That requires a loser is a game nobody wins.
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  • Then when it comes to relationships, any kind of
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  • Challenge, any kind of game we play, we're gonna talk about a
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  • Few in just a minute, any kind of competition that's
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  • Relationally driven is a game that requires a loser and a game
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  • That requires a loser ultimately relationally is a game that
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  • Nobody wins.
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  • Everybody loses.
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  • And let me illustrate it in the the arena that we've experienced
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  • The most.
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  • If you just think about home for a minute, we're gonna talk about
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  • Whether it's your roommate or at work or in the neighborhood, but
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  • Home is where we experience this first.
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  • Have you ever won, have you ever won an argument at home?
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  • Now you've had arguments at home growing up with your parents or
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  • Maybe with if you have kids now or with again with a roommate or
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  • Fiancé or husband or wife, you've had arguments, you know,
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  • Within the context of home.
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  • But have you ever won an argument at home?
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  • And if you think, "oh yeah, i've won some arguments."
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  • Next question.
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  • What exactly did you win?
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  • You know, what was the prize?
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  • Congratulations.
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  • You sleep on the couch.
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  • You won, okay.
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  • You beat him, you beat her, you trounce, you won, you know, now
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  • You're gonna have to leave.
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  • Congratulations, you powered up and now your son hates you or at
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  • Least he says he does.
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  • You won the argument, everybody agrees you won and now your son
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  • Says he hates you or congratulations.
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  • That last zinger, you know, left your daughter speechless and
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  • In tears.
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  • You know, so like take a victory lap around the island in the
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  • Kitchen, right?
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  • I mean, when it comes to relational arguments with that
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  • Kind of competition that we're gonna talk about, they're really
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  • Even if you think you won, you out argued, convinced your
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  • Roommate, you know, that they're gonna never do or start, there's
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  • Something that happens to the relationship that's
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  • Always negative.
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  • Again, at the end of an argument relationally, do you shake hands
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  • Like good game?
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  • No. do you hug and high five?
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  • "good game, mom, good game, mom, you know."
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  • No, "well, let's go another round, dad."
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  • No, you don't say these best two out of three, honey, you wanna
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  • Go again, you know.
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  • You go first this time.
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  • No, but trying to take the competition, the sports analogy,
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  • Even the sports language into the context of a relationship,
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  • Especially a relationship with somebody that's a long term
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  • Relationship, family relationship, it just
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  • Doesn't work.
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  • But there is a tendency for all of us, me included, to bring
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  • That level of unhealthy competition and challenge and
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  • Win-lose into relationships at work, in the community, and
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  • Especially at home.
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  • And again, you may get your way because you out argued or out
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  • Convinced, you may get your way, but you lose something along
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  • The way.
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  • And here's why that's the case.
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  • And this is kind of the driving principle, then let me set it up
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  • As a question, don't answer out loud, just think for a minute.
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  • When it comes to relationships, when it comes to relationships,
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  • What's the win?
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  • I mean, what's the win in a relationship?
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  • And the answer is the relationship, that's the win.
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  • The win is a mutually satisfying, mutually
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  • Enjoyable relationship.
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  • There's not an individual win.
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  • If there's an individual win and an individual loss, it's just a
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  • Loss because relationally speaking, if somebody loses,
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  • It's a loss for the relationship.
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  • The win in your most important relationships is in fact
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  • The relationship.
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  • Mutually satisfying, mutually enjoyable, mutually beneficial.
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  • So, real quick, i wanna go through a list of games that all
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  • Of us have probably seen played out somewhere in
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  • Some relationship.
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  • Unfortunately this is a list of games that maybe you're gonna
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  • Identify yourself in this.
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  • This is a list of games where today for the next few minutes,
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  • I don't want you to identify the person next to you, so no elbows
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  • And side eyes and groans.
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  • And don't laugh a little bit too loud so you make sure they hear
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  • You, okay?
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  • This is about you evaluating whether or not you and whether
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  • Or not we are guilty of bringing unhealthy competition or a sense
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  • Of competitiveness into a relationship where it doesn't
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  • Belong that results in a winner and a loser, which means
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  • Everybody loses.
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  • So i'll start with some of the most familiar
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  • Relationship games.
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  • There's the change game where i'm going to figure out how to
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  • Change you without you knowing that i'm changing you because i
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  • Think you need to be changed, right?
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  • Actually i'm trying to fix you, but i don't want to put the word
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  • Fix up here because, you know, you got into the relationship
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  • And this person has some issues.
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  • In fact, you marry them with issues or you're engaged to them
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  • With their issues, but you're convinced you are going to be
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  • Able to change them without them knowing it, which is foolish
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  • Because they know, just like you would know, right?
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  • Then there's the guessing game.
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  • This is what i'm very guilty of.
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  • Sandra and i have been married 36 years and so i've figured
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  • This out finally.
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  • But early on in our marriage, i was so guilty of this.
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  • The guessing game goes like this.
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  • I'm not gonna tell you what's wrong.
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  • You have to guess.
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  • And we're gonna go through, we're gonna go through at least
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  • Three rounds of, "what's wrong?" "nothing."
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  • "what's wrong?" "nothing."
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  • We gotta go three rounds of that.
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  • And then i'm gonna say, "well, if i have to tell you, it's
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  • Because you don't really care, but you gotta guess, all right?
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  • And i'm never gonna tell you."
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  • This is the guessing game. it is so unhealthy.
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  • And the thing that helped me get over this quick is sandra
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  • Refused to play, which was exactly the right response of my
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  • Moping around and trying to get her to figure out why i was
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  • So sad.
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  • She's like, "you deal with it."
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  • And finally i quit the guessing game.
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  • Anyway, moving on, there's the guilt game, you know, the guilt
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  • Game, the guilt game goes like this, "so, i guess you're just
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  • Gonna leave that there, right."
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  • Instead of addressing the issue, "i guess you're just gonna leave
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  • It there."
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  • "so, i guess i'll just go by myself again, right?"
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  • The guilt game.
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  • You know, "people don't treat me that way at work."
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  • Then there's the blame game.
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  • We've all played the blame game where basically nothing that i
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  • Do is really my fault because it's all a response to you.
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  • The reason i'm the way i am is because of you and if you would
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  • Change, i would be able to change.
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  • This isn't really my fault.
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  • And then, then, there's next level blame game.
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  • The next level blame game is the passive aggressive version.
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  • It is so powerful. it is so powerful.
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  • It's so horrible, but it's so powerful because the passive
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  • Aggressive version of the blame game allows you to apologize,
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  • Which makes you look good.
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  • But you're apologizing in a way that actually blames them.
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  • So you look good 'cause you're apologizing and there's a blame
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  • Stuck in.
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  • Okay, this is professional level game playing.
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  • It goes something like this, it goes like this.
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  • "hey, i'm really, really sorry that i reacted the way i did
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  • When you got home an hour late again from the gym."
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  • So see, i get credit for apologizing.
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  • "i wanna apologize for blowing up when you," when you, when
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  • You, when you, next level, very passive aggressive, great
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  • For relationships.
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  • Then there's the comparison game.
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  • We've all accidentally dipped into this or gotten pulled
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  • Into this.
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  • The comparison game is, "did you notice the way he."
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  • "did you notice the way she."
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  • "did you notice the way they," right?
  • 00:10:18.669 --> 00:10:21.539
  • That similar to the comparison game is the shame game,
  • 00:10:21.539 --> 00:10:24.909
  • Very similar.
  • 00:10:24.909 --> 00:10:26.243
  • The shame game goes something like this.
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  • "you know, if my dad were here, he would be able to fix that
  • 00:10:28.546 --> 00:10:32.316
  • With like a piece of duct tape."
  • 00:10:32.316 --> 00:10:33.651
  • Okay, so it's like you should.
  • 00:10:33.651 --> 00:10:35.019
  • In other words, the shame game is you should be up for this or
  • 00:10:35.019 --> 00:10:37.588
  • You should be able to do this or you should be mature enough.
  • 00:10:37.588 --> 00:10:39.924
  • The shame game is gonna try to shame you into changing.
  • 00:10:39.924 --> 00:10:43.294
  • Now, if you've ever been on the receiving end of the shame game,
  • 00:10:43.294 --> 00:10:46.030
  • The comparison game, any of those games, you know internally
  • 00:10:46.030 --> 00:10:49.633
  • What it does to you and what it does between you and the person
  • 00:10:49.633 --> 00:10:52.703
  • That's playing this game with you, and when you're the one who
  • 00:10:52.703 --> 00:10:55.606
  • Has initiated these games, the same thing is happening on the
  • 00:10:55.606 --> 00:10:59.210
  • Inside of the other person.
  • 00:10:59.210 --> 00:11:00.578
  • But we get tripped into these things and pulled into these
  • 00:11:00.578 --> 00:11:03.781
  • Things so quickly and for some of us today, these are habits,
  • 00:11:03.781 --> 00:11:09.220
  • These are habits.
  • 00:11:09.220 --> 00:11:10.688
  • The other, a couple more.
  • 00:11:10.688 --> 00:11:12.089
  • There's the--these last two are awful.
  • 00:11:12.089 --> 00:11:14.892
  • The family of origin game.
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  • You know how this sounds.
  • 00:11:17.895 --> 00:11:19.230
  • "you're just like your--"
  • 00:11:19.230 --> 00:11:21.232
  • Oh, "you're just like your father.
  • 00:11:21.232 --> 00:11:24.101
  • You're just like your mother."
  • 00:11:24.101 --> 00:11:25.469
  • "you know what?
  • 00:11:25.469 --> 00:11:26.804
  • If your mom hadn't, you probably wouldn't.
  • 00:11:26.804 --> 00:11:29.573
  • If your dad would have, you probably would."
  • 00:11:29.573 --> 00:11:32.743
  • And suddenly you're trapped and now you know they've ganged up
  • 00:11:32.743 --> 00:11:35.980
  • On your whole family and you don't really have any defense
  • 00:11:35.980 --> 00:11:38.215
  • 'cause you know they're right, but listen, here's the thing,
  • 00:11:38.215 --> 00:11:41.318
  • Even if they're right, you don't go, "oh, i'm fine now.
  • 00:11:41.318 --> 00:11:45.089
  • I'm so glad you brought that up.
  • 00:11:45.089 --> 00:11:46.423
  • I feel like i'm making progress.
  • 00:11:46.423 --> 00:11:47.958
  • I think this is a go to thing for you.
  • 00:11:47.958 --> 00:11:49.860
  • I feel developed as a person.
  • 00:11:49.860 --> 00:11:51.695
  • I feel--"
  • 00:11:51.695 --> 00:11:53.030
  • No, that's the problem with these games.
  • 00:11:53.030 --> 00:11:54.598
  • Even when the person that you're dealing with is correct, it
  • 00:11:54.598 --> 00:11:58.636
  • Doesn't do anything for the relationship and none of these
  • 00:11:58.636 --> 00:12:01.639
  • Games motivate us to be better people.
  • 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.074
  • Last one is the motive assignment game.
  • 00:12:04.074 --> 00:12:06.477
  • This is--very few people are able to do this well.
  • 00:12:06.477 --> 00:12:10.447
  • Motive assignment is basically i can read your mind.
  • 00:12:10.447 --> 00:12:13.384
  • And since i can read your mind, i can tell you the motive behind
  • 00:12:13.384 --> 00:12:17.454
  • What you're doing.
  • 00:12:17.454 --> 00:12:18.789
  • And even if you don't know why you're doing it, i know why
  • 00:12:18.789 --> 00:12:21.792
  • You're doing it because i can see into your soul.
  • 00:12:21.792 --> 00:12:26.263
  • If you weren't so selfish, right, if you weren't so
  • 00:12:26.263 --> 00:12:31.902
  • Concerned about what everybody else thinks, right?
  • 00:12:31.902 --> 00:12:35.539
  • Hey, i know what's going on here.
  • 00:12:35.539 --> 00:12:36.874
  • You just don't wanna go, do you?
  • 00:12:36.874 --> 00:12:38.242
  • You just, you just don't wanna do it.
  • 00:12:38.242 --> 00:12:40.344
  • I'm going to assign a motive to your behavior.
  • 00:12:40.344 --> 00:12:43.948
  • And again, even if i'm correct, what happens to
  • 00:12:43.948 --> 00:12:47.084
  • The relationship?
  • 00:12:47.084 --> 00:12:48.452
  • I'm trying to win, make you lose, and at the end of the day
  • 00:12:48.452 --> 00:12:50.788
  • We both lose because there's no win-lose in
  • 00:12:50.788 --> 00:12:53.591
  • Healthy relationships.
  • 00:12:53.591 --> 00:12:55.626
  • However, if you're competitive and you love games and you would
  • 00:12:55.626 --> 00:13:00.531
  • Like to make the relationships that you're in that you
  • 00:13:00.531 --> 00:13:03.500
  • Appreciate games whether it's relationships with someone you
  • 00:13:03.500 --> 00:13:06.637
  • Love someone you know, someone you work with, someone you
  • 00:13:06.637 --> 00:13:09.473
  • Live with.
  • 00:13:09.473 --> 00:13:10.841
  • If you really wanna bring competition to a relationship,
  • 00:13:10.841 --> 00:13:13.777
  • There is one game that comes highly, highly recommended.
  • 00:13:13.777 --> 00:13:19.617
  • It works with family, it works at work, it works in
  • 00:13:19.617 --> 00:13:22.820
  • The community.
  • 00:13:22.820 --> 00:13:24.188
  • In fact, it would work in our nation if everybody decide
  • 00:13:24.188 --> 00:13:25.656
  • To play.
  • 00:13:25.656 --> 00:13:27.024
  • These are for players five years and up, five years old and up.
  • 00:13:27.024 --> 00:13:30.728
  • One to ten players, actually you can play this game alone.
  • 00:13:30.728 --> 00:13:35.900
  • But the more people that play, the more fun it is and the
  • 00:13:35.900 --> 00:13:38.369
  • Better that it is.
  • 00:13:38.369 --> 00:13:39.737
  • And this game was actually introduced to us, at least,
  • 00:13:39.737 --> 00:13:42.273
  • Maybe longer ago than this, but this game was at least
  • 00:13:42.273 --> 00:13:44.575
  • Introduced to us 2,000 years ago by the apostle paul.
  • 00:13:44.575 --> 00:13:49.213
  • The apostle paul, as many of you know, wrote about half the
  • 00:13:49.213 --> 00:13:51.215
  • New testament.
  • 00:13:51.215 --> 00:13:52.583
  • He was a first century jesus follower.
  • 00:13:52.583 --> 00:13:53.951
  • He was a pharisee before he became a jesus follower.
  • 00:13:53.951 --> 00:13:57.087
  • He hated christians, he tried to shut down the church, and then
  • 00:13:57.087 --> 00:14:00.124
  • He met jesus and his life changed.
  • 00:14:00.124 --> 00:14:02.226
  • And he brought to us, and this is so important to understand if
  • 00:14:02.226 --> 00:14:04.962
  • You just started reading the bible or maybe just started
  • 00:14:04.962 --> 00:14:07.164
  • Reading the bible again.
  • 00:14:07.164 --> 00:14:08.499
  • The apostle paul took the teachings of jesus and he
  • 00:14:08.499 --> 00:14:11.869
  • Contextualized them and explained them for non-jewish
  • 00:14:11.869 --> 00:14:15.072
  • People because he went to the non-jewish world to explain that
  • 00:14:15.072 --> 00:14:18.108
  • God had done something in the world for the world by sending
  • 00:14:18.108 --> 00:14:21.111
  • His son into the world.
  • 00:14:21.111 --> 00:14:22.479
  • So in his letters, he teases out how to follow jesus as a
  • 00:14:22.479 --> 00:14:26.817
  • Non-jewish person, even though he was a pharisee and he was a
  • 00:14:26.817 --> 00:14:30.020
  • Jewish person because he was like an evangelist to the
  • 00:14:30.020 --> 00:14:33.324
  • Non-judeans, the non-galileans of his day.
  • 00:14:33.324 --> 00:14:36.327
  • So, he writes several letters, and one of these massive letters
  • 00:14:36.327 --> 00:14:39.663
  • Goes to christians living in first century rome.
  • 00:14:39.663 --> 00:14:42.533
  • And this is where he introduces this game, and i call it, and i
  • 00:14:42.533 --> 00:14:46.103
  • Think we can all agree to call it, the honor game.
  • 00:14:46.103 --> 00:14:49.173
  • The honor game.
  • 00:14:49.173 --> 00:14:50.541
  • Now, it's like the hunger games, except it's
  • 00:14:50.541 --> 00:14:56.046
  • Completely different.
  • 00:14:56.046 --> 00:14:57.381
  • Okay, so it's not anything like the hunger games, it's the
  • 00:14:57.381 --> 00:14:59.583
  • Honor game.
  • 00:14:59.583 --> 00:15:00.951
  • And in the honor game, and this is why it's so exciting, in the
  • 00:15:00.951 --> 00:15:03.854
  • Honor game, you actually win by losing, but if--'cause you can
  • 00:15:03.854 --> 00:15:09.860
  • Play it by yourself.
  • 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:11.195
  • But if multiple people play it, if the people in your office
  • 00:15:11.195 --> 00:15:14.765
  • Began to play it, if the people in our community began to play
  • 00:15:14.765 --> 00:15:17.968
  • It, if the people in your family began to play it, even if just
  • 00:15:17.968 --> 00:15:21.171
  • Two people in your family began to play it, when two or more
  • 00:15:21.171 --> 00:15:24.608
  • People play, everybody wins.
  • 00:15:24.608 --> 00:15:29.480
  • Here's how he describes it, writing to christians in first
  • 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:32.182
  • Century rome, he says this, he says, "i want you to be devoted
  • 00:15:32.182 --> 00:15:36.353
  • To one another in love."
  • 00:15:36.353 --> 00:15:37.721
  • And he pauses and he thinks, "okay, that's kind of soft, it's
  • 00:15:37.721 --> 00:15:41.058
  • Kind of squishy.
  • 00:15:41.058 --> 00:15:42.393
  • What can i say that will appeal to the competitive nature of
  • 00:15:42.393 --> 00:15:45.796
  • These jesus followers living in highly competitive rome?"
  • 00:15:45.796 --> 00:15:50.134
  • So he creates a unique but compelling phrase, and here's
  • 00:15:50.134 --> 00:15:53.904
  • What he dictates to be written next.
  • 00:15:53.904 --> 00:15:55.939
  • He says, and i'm gonna give you the greek version because it's
  • 00:15:55.939 --> 00:15:59.143
  • Very gritty.
  • 00:15:59.143 --> 00:16:00.511
  • The english version is a little less gritty 'cause it kind of
  • 00:16:00.511 --> 00:16:02.379
  • Softened it, but here's sort of the literal translation of what
  • 00:16:02.379 --> 00:16:05.149
  • He says.
  • 00:16:05.149 --> 00:16:06.517
  • He says, "giving honor one another going before."
  • 00:16:06.517 --> 00:16:10.287
  • Bad grammar for us, but this had a point.
  • 00:16:10.287 --> 00:16:12.189
  • This made a point.
  • 00:16:12.189 --> 00:16:13.557
  • "giving honor."
  • 00:16:13.557 --> 00:16:14.892
  • In other words, i want you to be devoted to one another and
  • 00:16:14.892 --> 00:16:16.627
  • Here's what it looks like.
  • 00:16:16.627 --> 00:16:17.961
  • I want you to give honor one another going before.
  • 00:16:17.961 --> 00:16:20.631
  • And here's his point.
  • 00:16:20.631 --> 00:16:21.999
  • It's so powerful.
  • 00:16:21.999 --> 00:16:23.333
  • He said, he's saying, instead of be first, i want you to go first
  • 00:16:23.333 --> 00:16:29.173
  • To put the other first.
  • 00:16:29.173 --> 00:16:31.108
  • Instead of trying to be first, i want you to go first.
  • 00:16:31.108 --> 00:16:34.611
  • I want you to win the competition.
  • 00:16:34.611 --> 00:16:36.046
  • I want you to be the very first to put another person first.
  • 00:16:36.046 --> 00:16:40.884
  • I want you to outhonor one another.
  • 00:16:40.884 --> 00:16:43.954
  • I want you to win the competition of how quickly can
  • 00:16:43.954 --> 00:16:47.624
  • You show honor to another person before they show honor to you
  • 00:16:47.624 --> 00:16:52.062
  • And make it a game.
  • 00:16:52.062 --> 00:16:53.430
  • Compete to be the first to put others first.
  • 00:16:53.430 --> 00:16:55.833
  • Here's what an english translation says.
  • 00:16:55.833 --> 00:16:58.268
  • Again, it kind of takes a little bit of the grit out.
  • 00:16:58.268 --> 00:17:00.604
  • He writes, "be devoted to one another in love.
  • 00:17:00.604 --> 00:17:03.740
  • Honor one another," there's our word.
  • 00:17:03.740 --> 00:17:05.342
  • "honor one another above yourselves."
  • 00:17:05.342 --> 00:17:08.178
  • Now, here's the question.
  • 00:17:08.178 --> 00:17:09.646
  • What does that mean?
  • 00:17:09.646 --> 00:17:11.048
  • What does that look like?
  • 00:17:11.048 --> 00:17:12.416
  • What does it mean to honor another person above yourself?
  • 00:17:12.416 --> 00:17:16.253
  • Here's what it means.
  • 00:17:16.253 --> 00:17:17.588
  • It means this is a choice.
  • 00:17:17.588 --> 00:17:19.623
  • He's saying, i want you to choose.
  • 00:17:19.623 --> 00:17:22.192
  • It's always a choice.
  • 00:17:22.192 --> 00:17:23.560
  • I want you to choose to treat other people.
  • 00:17:23.560 --> 00:17:26.230
  • I want you to choose to treat the people around you as if they
  • 00:17:26.230 --> 00:17:30.467
  • Deserve more honor than you do.
  • 00:17:30.467 --> 00:17:34.905
  • Well, do they?
  • 00:17:34.905 --> 00:17:36.273
  • Paul would say that's not the point.
  • 00:17:36.273 --> 00:17:37.608
  • I'm not saying they do deserve it.
  • 00:17:37.608 --> 00:17:38.976
  • I'm saying i want you to choose.
  • 00:17:38.976 --> 00:17:41.411
  • It's a daily choice.
  • 00:17:41.411 --> 00:17:42.913
  • I want you to choose to honor the people around you as if they
  • 00:17:42.913 --> 00:17:46.917
  • Actually literally deserve more honor than you do.
  • 00:17:46.917 --> 00:17:52.456
  • It's a choice.
  • 00:17:52.456 --> 00:17:54.024
  • He writes another letter or dictates another letter to
  • 00:17:54.024 --> 00:17:56.226
  • Christians living in philippi and he kind of doubles down on
  • 00:17:56.226 --> 00:17:58.729
  • This idea.
  • 00:17:58.729 --> 00:18:00.063
  • Here's how he says it there.
  • 00:18:00.063 --> 00:18:01.431
  • He says, "do nothing out of selfish ambition or
  • 00:18:01.431 --> 00:18:04.101
  • Vain conceit."
  • 00:18:04.101 --> 00:18:05.469
  • I mean, if we just embrace this for a month, the world would
  • 00:18:05.469 --> 00:18:08.105
  • Change, right?
  • 00:18:08.105 --> 00:18:09.473
  • But he says, "do nothing out of selfish ambition or
  • 00:18:09.473 --> 00:18:11.408
  • Vain conceit."
  • 00:18:11.408 --> 00:18:12.743
  • And then here's our big idea.
  • 00:18:12.743 --> 00:18:14.444
  • "rather," he says, "in humility," here it is again,
  • 00:18:14.444 --> 00:18:17.714
  • Says it a different way.
  • 00:18:17.714 --> 00:18:19.149
  • "value others above yourself."
  • 00:18:19.149 --> 00:18:23.086
  • In other words, regard one another as more important
  • 00:18:23.086 --> 00:18:26.623
  • Than yourself.
  • 00:18:26.623 --> 00:18:27.958
  • Again, here's the word, consider them of greater value than
  • 00:18:27.958 --> 00:18:32.663
  • You carry.
  • 00:18:32.663 --> 00:18:34.097
  • Consider them and treat them as if they are worth more than you.
  • 00:18:34.097 --> 00:18:39.002
  • Not because they are, it's irrelevant.
  • 00:18:39.002 --> 00:18:42.105
  • This is a choice he's encouraging us to make.
  • 00:18:42.105 --> 00:18:44.641
  • Treat them as if they are.
  • 00:18:44.641 --> 00:18:46.176
  • And here's what i know about you.
  • 00:18:46.176 --> 00:18:47.878
  • Most of us have never met, most of us have never met those of
  • 00:18:47.878 --> 00:18:50.013
  • You watching online from all over the place, but here's what
  • 00:18:50.013 --> 00:18:52.115
  • I know about you.
  • 00:18:52.115 --> 00:18:54.218
  • You know how to do this.
  • 00:18:54.218 --> 00:18:57.487
  • You don't need a lesson in how to do it.
  • 00:18:57.487 --> 00:19:00.424
  • You just need to decide whether or not you're gonna do it.
  • 00:19:00.424 --> 00:19:04.728
  • And here's how i know that you know how to do what paul is
  • 00:19:04.728 --> 00:19:07.197
  • Telling us to do.
  • 00:19:07.197 --> 00:19:09.199
  • Have you ever met someone more important than you?
  • 00:19:09.199 --> 00:19:13.437
  • Now, if you say, "no," yeah, that's another sermon for
  • 00:19:13.437 --> 00:19:17.274
  • Another day, okay?
  • 00:19:17.274 --> 00:19:18.642
  • But i think most of us average people would go, "oh yeah, like
  • 00:19:18.642 --> 00:19:21.478
  • I met a president of a company.
  • 00:19:21.478 --> 00:19:22.813
  • I met world famous author.
  • 00:19:22.813 --> 00:19:25.082
  • I got an autograph from somebody i respect."
  • 00:19:25.082 --> 00:19:26.850
  • So, all of us would say, okay, when it comes to human, you
  • 00:19:26.850 --> 00:19:29.886
  • Know, just human culture and the world around us, yeah, you've
  • 00:19:29.886 --> 00:19:34.157
  • Met some people where you weren't sure what to say and you
  • 00:19:34.157 --> 00:19:36.827
  • Got an autograph or you just got close to them or, you know, took
  • 00:19:36.827 --> 00:19:39.630
  • A secret picture, but we all know how we feel and we all know
  • 00:19:39.630 --> 00:19:43.867
  • How we behave when we meet or we are around somebody that we hold
  • 00:19:43.867 --> 00:19:47.971
  • In high esteem.
  • 00:19:47.971 --> 00:19:49.373
  • And here's my question for you.
  • 00:19:49.373 --> 00:19:50.907
  • In those moments, even if you didn't have a conversation, but
  • 00:19:50.907 --> 00:19:53.210
  • You were just around them.
  • 00:19:53.210 --> 00:19:54.544
  • You know, how did you treat them?
  • 00:19:54.544 --> 00:19:57.114
  • And i know the answer to the question.
  • 00:19:57.114 --> 00:19:59.316
  • You treated them or responded to them like they were more
  • 00:19:59.316 --> 00:20:03.353
  • Important than you.
  • 00:20:03.353 --> 00:20:05.889
  • We know how to do this.
  • 00:20:05.889 --> 00:20:07.257
  • You got this.
  • 00:20:07.257 --> 00:20:08.592
  • You didn't interrupt, you didn't correct.
  • 00:20:08.592 --> 00:20:11.528
  • If they said something they thought was funny, you
  • 00:20:11.528 --> 00:20:13.897
  • Laughed, right?
  • 00:20:13.897 --> 00:20:15.232
  • You didn't sit if they, you know, you didn't sit if
  • 00:20:15.232 --> 00:20:17.567
  • They stood.
  • 00:20:17.567 --> 00:20:18.902
  • This is a word we don't use much, you deferred to them.
  • 00:20:18.902 --> 00:20:21.938
  • You honored them.
  • 00:20:21.938 --> 00:20:25.108
  • You know how to do this.
  • 00:20:25.108 --> 00:20:28.278
  • What if you just did that with everybody?
  • 00:20:28.278 --> 00:20:30.947
  • This is paul's point.
  • 00:20:30.947 --> 00:20:32.282
  • He's like, "look, i want you to treat, i want you to honor
  • 00:20:32.282 --> 00:20:35.786
  • People as if they actually deserve more honor than you do.
  • 00:20:35.786 --> 00:20:40.057
  • I want you to do that for everybody, not just the
  • 00:20:40.057 --> 00:20:44.594
  • Famous bodies."
  • 00:20:44.594 --> 00:20:46.930
  • Back to paul, again, here's what he said.
  • 00:20:46.930 --> 00:20:49.232
  • "honor one another above yourselves."
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  • That is treat or value other people as if they are actually
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  • More valuable than you are.
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  • And here's the thing.
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  • You can play this game everywhere you go with everybody
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  • You meet.
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  • Imagine that.
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  • If you're approached to people at work, at home, your kids,
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  • Your spouse, your roommates, it was just, you know what?
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  • I'm gonna out honor everybody.
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  • I'm gonna win the honor game every single day with every
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  • Single person i meet.
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  • That doesn't mean you don't have hard conversations.
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  • That doesn't mean you don't address things that need to
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  • Be addressed.
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  • It means that you never dishonor anyone because if you're a jesus
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  • Follower in particular, you are invited and commanded to
  • 00:21:26.470 --> 00:21:30.440
  • Actually honor people or treat them as if they have more value
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  • Than you.
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  • Now, here's the pushback.
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  • And i get this.
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  • If you're thinking, okay, but andy, okay, but look, that's
  • 00:21:38.248 --> 00:21:39.883
  • Cute and funny and everything, but nobody, look, andy, come on,
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  • Nobody's more actually, nobody is actually more important
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  • Than me.
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  • And nobody's actually more important or has more value.
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  • That's the word that the apostle paul uses.
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  • Nobody actually has more value than any other person.
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  • We're all made equal, we're all made equal in the sight of god,
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  • Or we're all citizens, or, you know, how--whatever your
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  • Worldview is.
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  • And let's just say for argument's sake, you're right.
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  • That's not the point.
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  • The apostle paul is saying, "i'm not saying they have more value.
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  • I want you to treat them as if they do."
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  • And then, don't tune out.
  • 00:22:13.917 --> 00:22:16.620
  • Then he tells us why he would dare say such a thing.
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  • Now, real quick, if you're not a christian or not a jesus
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  • Follower or you're from a different faith tradition, i'm
  • 00:22:24.895 --> 00:22:27.297
  • Gonna kinda leave you right here with what i've said so far.
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  • You should try this at home.
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  • You should try this at work.
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  • It will make your relationships better.
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  • It will make you better at life.
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  • This is an extraordinarily powerful principle.
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  • But what i'm gonna say next and look at next, the apostle paul
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  • Gives us his reason as a jesus follower, as to why all jesus
  • 00:22:42.846 --> 00:22:47.851
  • Followers should do this.
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  • And what he says next takes all my excuses away not to honor
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  • Other people above myself.
  • 00:22:56.059 --> 00:22:57.594
  • And if you're a christian or jesus follower, it takes all of
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  • Your excuses away as well.
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  • Here's what he says.
  • 00:23:04.701 --> 00:23:06.903
  • He says, "have this attitude in yourselves which was also in
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  • Christ jesus."
  • 00:23:12.909 --> 00:23:14.277
  • In other words, i want--since you're a follower of jesus, i
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  • Want you to follow and adopt the attitude or the approach, the
  • 00:23:16.880 --> 00:23:21.251
  • Tone or the posture of jesus.
  • 00:23:21.251 --> 00:23:23.887
  • These are words we use a lot.
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  • We want the tone, the posture, and the approach to life and the
  • 00:23:25.255 --> 00:23:28.258
  • Approach to relationships as jesus.
  • 00:23:28.258 --> 00:23:30.026
  • And he's like, yeah, paul's like, as a follower of jesus, i
  • 00:23:30.026 --> 00:23:32.729
  • Want you to have his attitude.
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  • And what was his attitude?
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  • Paul's about to tell us.
  • 00:23:36.166 --> 00:23:37.501
  • He treated people as if they were more important than he was.
  • 00:23:37.501 --> 00:23:41.104
  • And they weren't.
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  • They literally were not more important than him.
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  • He's god in a body.
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  • After the crucifixion and the resurrection it's like
  • 00:23:48.044 --> 00:23:50.547
  • There--after the resurrection, jewish men and women worshiped
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  • Him, which was unheard of.
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  • You don't worship people.
  • 00:23:58.288 --> 00:23:59.656
  • Even the romans didn't worship living people, you know,
  • 00:23:59.656 --> 00:24:01.925
  • Worshiped dead people, but nobody worshiped living people.
  • 00:24:01.925 --> 00:24:05.095
  • Jewish people, they didn't worship living people.
  • 00:24:05.095 --> 00:24:06.963
  • They worshiped jesus because they realized he is god in
  • 00:24:06.963 --> 00:24:09.900
  • A body.
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  • He is the word of god who's come to earth.
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  • They worshiped him.
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  • He's definitely more valuable and more important than
  • 00:24:13.937 --> 00:24:15.906
  • They are.
  • 00:24:15.906 --> 00:24:17.240
  • And yet in his life, follow him through the gospels, he treated
  • 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.378
  • People as if they had as much or more value as he did.
  • 00:24:21.378 --> 00:24:28.485
  • Listen to what he says.
  • 00:24:28.485 --> 00:24:30.554
  • "have the same attitude as in yourself as christ jesus, who,"
  • 00:24:30.554 --> 00:24:33.490
  • Talking about jesus, "who being in very nature god," he's god in
  • 00:24:33.490 --> 00:24:37.027
  • The body.
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  • This is amazing.
  • 00:24:38.395 --> 00:24:39.729
  • Paul says, "jesus did not consider equality with god
  • 00:24:39.729 --> 00:24:43.533
  • Something to be used to his own advantage."
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  • He never played the god card.
  • 00:24:48.238 --> 00:24:52.242
  • "folks, i'm here.
  • 00:24:52.242 --> 00:24:53.610
  • My name's jesus.
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  • I'm god.
  • 00:24:54.945 --> 00:24:56.313
  • Okay, so we'd like to sit right over there.
  • 00:24:56.313 --> 00:24:57.647
  • And if you guys could move or maybe i'll just move you," you
  • 00:24:57.647 --> 00:24:59.382
  • Know, he just, he never, again, i know i'm sure that he
  • 00:24:59.382 --> 00:25:02.619
  • Leveraged his power and his authority for the benefit of
  • 00:25:02.619 --> 00:25:06.122
  • Other people.
  • 00:25:06.122 --> 00:25:07.457
  • He treated other people as if they were more important than he
  • 00:25:07.457 --> 00:25:10.527
  • Was and they weren't.
  • 00:25:10.527 --> 00:25:11.861
  • And paul said, "if you're gonna follow jesus, this is what it
  • 00:25:11.861 --> 00:25:14.397
  • Looks like.
  • 00:25:14.397 --> 00:25:15.765
  • This is what the kingdom of god looks like.
  • 00:25:15.765 --> 00:25:17.100
  • It's the inverted pyramids.
  • 00:25:17.100 --> 00:25:18.635
  • It's not about people on top who are sucking all the life and
  • 00:25:18.635 --> 00:25:21.137
  • Resources this way.
  • 00:25:21.137 --> 00:25:22.505
  • It's about people with life and resources and opportunity
  • 00:25:22.505 --> 00:25:24.975
  • Sharing those life, sharing life, and sharing resources and
  • 00:25:24.975 --> 00:25:28.244
  • Sharing opportunities with people who don't have them as if
  • 00:25:28.244 --> 00:25:31.114
  • They were more important than the people who do."
  • 00:25:31.114 --> 00:25:33.450
  • He says, "this is the kingdom of god and it started with
  • 00:25:33.450 --> 00:25:36.252
  • Your king."
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  • Not only did he not use his power to his own advantage, he
  • 00:25:37.621 --> 00:25:40.690
  • Says, "he made himself a nobody."
  • 00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:43.226
  • He made himself nothing.
  • 00:25:43.226 --> 00:25:45.729
  • And this is the point.
  • 00:25:45.729 --> 00:25:47.564
  • This is the game.
  • 00:25:47.564 --> 00:25:49.199
  • Jesus chose to treat others as if they were more important than
  • 00:25:49.199 --> 00:25:52.202
  • He was.
  • 00:25:52.202 --> 00:25:53.570
  • And were they?
  • 00:25:53.570 --> 00:25:55.171
  • No, but he treated them as if they were.
  • 00:25:55.171 --> 00:25:58.775
  • And do you know what else he did?
  • 00:25:58.775 --> 00:26:00.543
  • This is the gospel.
  • 00:26:00.543 --> 00:26:02.812
  • He treated you as if you were more important than him.
  • 00:26:02.812 --> 00:26:06.616
  • He treated me as if i was more important than him because he
  • 00:26:06.616 --> 00:26:10.253
  • Took my sin and he took your sin on himself and died in public as
  • 00:26:10.253 --> 00:26:17.627
  • A slave and as a traitor to his nation and the empire.
  • 00:26:17.627 --> 00:26:23.466
  • And he wasn't.
  • 00:26:23.466 --> 00:26:25.602
  • And if our king did that for us, we lose all of our excuse not to
  • 00:26:25.602 --> 00:26:29.973
  • Do that for each other.
  • 00:26:29.973 --> 00:26:32.709
  • If you're not a jesus follower, it's optional and it will make
  • 00:26:32.709 --> 00:26:35.578
  • Your life better.
  • 00:26:35.578 --> 00:26:36.946
  • If you're a jesus follower, we have no excuse not to.
  • 00:26:36.946 --> 00:26:40.784
  • He says, "he made himself nothing, made himself nothing by
  • 00:26:40.784 --> 00:26:43.687
  • Taking the very nature and the form of a servant."
  • 00:26:43.687 --> 00:26:47.123
  • Which means, you know what servants do?
  • 00:26:47.123 --> 00:26:49.993
  • They step back, they let you go first.
  • 00:26:49.993 --> 00:26:52.996
  • Servant to who?
  • 00:26:52.996 --> 00:26:54.664
  • Servant to you, servant to me.
  • 00:26:54.664 --> 00:26:57.467
  • And then jesus says to me every day, "andy, i want you to follow
  • 00:26:57.467 --> 00:26:59.869
  • My example.
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  • I want you to play the honor game.
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  • I want you to outhonor, i want you to just outhonor everybody.
  • 00:27:02.572 --> 00:27:05.241
  • I want you to show more honor to sandra than she shows to you.
  • 00:27:05.241 --> 00:27:08.044
  • I want you to show more honor to the people you work with than
  • 00:27:08.044 --> 00:27:11.715
  • They show to you.
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  • I want you to outhonor the people in the community.
  • 00:27:13.083 --> 00:27:15.251
  • I want you to be aggressively, competitively honoring
  • 00:27:15.251 --> 00:27:19.756
  • Other people.
  • 00:27:19.756 --> 00:27:21.491
  • Not to get attention and not to get a pat on the back so that
  • 00:27:21.491 --> 00:27:24.561
  • They feel," ready for this?
  • 00:27:24.561 --> 00:27:26.930
  • "so that they feel the honor that god has bestowed on them as
  • 00:27:26.930 --> 00:27:32.335
  • One of his children whom he dearly loves."
  • 00:27:32.335 --> 00:27:38.475
  • In other words, pull up to the table and play the honor game.
  • 00:27:38.475 --> 00:27:44.748
  • When everybody plays, everybody wins.
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