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Andy Stanley - Investigation Jesus (Part 6)

December 6, 2025 | 28:29

Andy Stanley - Investigation Jesus (Part 6)
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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andy Stanley - Investigation Jesus (Part 6) | December 6, 2025
  • Andy stanley: hi everybody, welcome to "your move" where we
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  • Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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  • I'm andy stanley and i'll be your guide.
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  • Every once in a while somebody asks me why i'm a christian.
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  • And my answer is simple.
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  • I say because following jesus has made my life better, and
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  • Following jesus makes me better at life.
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  • Now, it's not always easier, but it sure is better and why it's
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  • Better is what we're talking about today right here on
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  • "your move."
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  • ♪♪♪
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  • Andy: today we're wrapping up our series
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  • "investigating jesus."
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  • It's been a lot of fun.
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  • It's been a lot of fun for me to prepare this series.
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  • And we've said throughout this series that the subtitle how we
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  • Know and why we follow is so important because we're asking
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  • The question, how do we know there's anything to the story
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  • Of jesus?
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  • And then we're asking a more fundamental, a deeper and more
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  • Practical question, why follow?
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  • I mean, why would anyone in the 21st century commit their lives
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  • Or kind of like, you know, as we're gonna talk about today,
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  • Sort of write a blank check with our lives to a 1st
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  • Century rabbi?
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  • How do we know there's anything to it and why in the world
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  • Should we choose to follow?
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  • How do we know that jesus is even worth following?
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  • But this is important to know because christianity or the
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  • Credibility of christianity rises and falls really
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  • Specifically on the identity or the supposed identity of one
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  • Individual, jesus of nazareth.
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  • The whole thing rises and falls on this, which means, as we said
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  • Throughout, and this is such an important part and that's why
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  • I've repeated it throughout the series, which means that if
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  • You're considering christianity or you're reconsidering
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  • Christianity because you walked away and you're thinking about
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  • Coming back, or if you are unconsidering christianity,
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  • There's really just one question to wrestle to the ground.
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  • And unfortunately, the church hasn't always done a great job
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  • Pointing people who are considering christianity to this
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  • Question and the question is really this, is matthew, mark,
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  • Luke, or john a reliable account of actual events?
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  • These are the four 1st century documents that document the life
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  • Of jesus from different angles, different perspectives with
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  • Different stories, different parables, you know, different,
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  • I mean, different approach.
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  • But if even if just one of these is a reliable account or even
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  • Mostly reliable account of actual events, then everybody
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  • Needs to sit up straight and pay attention because it means that
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  • What jesus said about himself is true.
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  • And if what jesus said about himself is true, then he is in
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  • Fact worth following and worth devoting our entire lives to.
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  • So in this series, we're exploring, if you've been along
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  • Been along the journey with us, we're exploring one of those
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  • First century documents that's called the gospel of luke, named
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  • After its author.
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  • And right up front, luke lets us know he's not writing religious
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  • Material, and he says, "i'm not the only one.
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  • I'm not in some corner somewhere just making stuff up."
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  • Many, many, how many is many?
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  • I don't know.
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  • Is many just four?
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  • Four doesn't sound like many to me, but "many have undertaken to
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  • Draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled" or the
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  • Things that happened, "among us."
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  • Not long ago, you know, somewhere far, far away, the
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  • Things that have happened right here among us, "just as they
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  • Were handed down to us by those who from the first were,"
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  • Actually part of the story, "were eyewitnesses."
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  • So luke is not writing in his mind, he's not writing the
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  • Bible, but luke's extraordinary document because who wrote it
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  • When it was written and what it says about jesus was so precious
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  • To the early church that it was collected and it was copied and
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  • Eventually it became part of the new testament, which eventually
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  • Became part of what we call and what we respect as the bible.
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  • But luke's not writing the bible.
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  • Luke's just telling us what happened.
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  • And what happened at the end is why the story was worth telling
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  • In the first place.
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  • In fact, luke would be quick to tell us if the story didn't end
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  • The way the story ended, there was no story to tell, because
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  • Jesus was just another wannabe prophet, wannabe rabbi, wannabe
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  • Messiah who went the way of all the wannabe hope to be messiahs
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  • In judea.
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  • What happened at the end of the story actually makes sense of
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  • And creates the context for everything that happened in
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  • The story.
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  • And here's how the end of the story begins.
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  • "when they came to the place called the skull, they crucified
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  • Him there, along with the criminals--one on his right, and
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  • The other on his left."
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  • It's so interesting in the gospels, none of the gospel
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  • Writers give us any details about the crucifixion of jesus,
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  • And the reason there are no details is because in the 1st
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  • Century no details were needed.
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  • Everybody had seen one, everybody's seen the aftermath
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  • Of one.
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  • Parents had, you know, turned their children the other way as
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  • They walked by one.
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  • It would be like you telling me, "hey, andy, i've gonna go get my
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  • Teeth cleaned."
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  • I wouldn't ask any question like what's that like?
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  • What happens?
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  • What's the procedure? why?
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  • Because everybody knows what it means to get your teeth cleaned.
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  • So in first century judea and galilee and that whole region,
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  • In fact all over the roman empire, all you needed to hear
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  • Was he was crucified, he was crucified.
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  • No details needed.
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  • Crucifixion was created, we think by the persians, the
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  • Greeks improved on it, but the romans perfected it.
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  • It was a way to keep a man alive as long as possible.
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  • It was not just a punishment, it was a deterrent.
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  • It was terror on display, reserved mostly for criminals,
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  • Political rebels, but never a roman citizen.
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  • Luke says, this is the surprise ending.
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  • This is the surprise beginning of the end of the story.
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  • "when they came to the place called the skull, they crucified
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  • Him there, along with criminals--one on his right, and
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  • The other on his left.
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  • And jesus said..."
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  • And jesus said the most remarkable, unsettling
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  • Thing imaginable.
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  • In fact, what comes next, what jesus said next, what comes next
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  • Is actually the end to which jesus invites all of us
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  • To follow.
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  • Andy: hey, thanks so much for watching this episode, but
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  • Before we continue, i wanna take just a moment to share something
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  • Andy: and so what did jesus say that was so remarkable that i
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  • Think caused luke to say, "are you sure that's what he said?"
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  • From the cross, he said, "father, forgive them, forgive
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  • Them because they don't really know what they're doing."
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  • They thought they did, but they did not.
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  • And the evidence is, the evidence that they didn't know
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  • What they're doing is because they just kept on doing exactly
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  • What they were doing.
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  • Listen to this next callous line that luke adds because this is
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  • What happened.
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  • And while jesus is dying and while jesus is forgiving, luke
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  • Says, and they, while this is going on, "and they divided up
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  • His clothes," right at his feet, "by casting lots."
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  • What did he say?
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  • I don't know who cares, it's your role.
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  • Forgive them?
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  • Come on, how weak is that?
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  • How passive, how spineless.
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  • What a loser.
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  • In fact, by, this is the story by 1st century standards, by
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  • 21st century standards, jesus lost.
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  • His enemies won and worse than that, when they came to arrest
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  • Him, you know the story, when they came to arrest him, he
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  • Didn't even resist.
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  • And when his followers who were with him in the garden that
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  • Night tried to resist, he said, "no more of this, no more of
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  • This, stop this.
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  • Put away your sword.
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  • This is not my way. this is not the way.
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  • That's so kingdoms of this world one on one, and i have come to
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  • Pave a new way.
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  • I've come to demonstrate a different way to resist.
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  • I've come to demonstrate a different way to respond and
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  • To react."
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  • And when his followers realize he's not even going to resist,
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  • You know the story, they all unfollowed and they all fled.
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  • But they shouldn't have been surprised at jesus's response to
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  • His arrest, because this is how he had lived his entire life.
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  • This has been his posture all along, and this was the posture
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  • That he insisted they take if they were going to be
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  • His follower.
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  • But it's so disturbing, it's so on everything in us for most
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  • Of us.
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  • And it's why most of us would rather just believe than choose
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  • To follow.
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  • Because following jesus will cost you something.
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  • But it's why jesus has so many admirers and so few followers.
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  • So here's the question.
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  • Which one are you?
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  • Which one am i? which, which one are we?
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  • The way of jesus, it's disturbing, it's unnerving, it's
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  • Really un-american, it's really kinda, if i could be honest,
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  • It's kind of unmanly.
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  • But when you see it played out, and when you have seen a man or
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  • A woman react in such a way that reflects the posture of jesus,
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  • It's, well, it's jaw dropping, it's showstopping.
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  • Their reaction slices through the darkness.
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  • And that's the effect that the way of jesus has when it's lived
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  • Out in this imperfect world.
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  • It stirs something in us.
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  • It doesn't look weak.
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  • In fact, for example, you should look up the story of
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  • Rachael denhollander.
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  • She was the person who addressed, she actually
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  • Addressed larry nassar and during the sentencing phase of
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  • His trial for years and years and years of sexual assault.
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  • As you may know, rachael was the first person to publicly accuse
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  • Larry nasser, the former usa gymnast doctor, of sexually
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  • Abusing over 200 little girls and young women.
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  • And you should look up her statement in the courtroom.
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  • I was gonna read part of it.
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  • It's so emotional.
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  • I can't even get through the first line.
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  • Some of you know what that first line was.
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  • It's so powerful, it's so disarming, and i know for so
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  • Many people, even in our audience, it's so close to the
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  • Reality of your experience that i just don't wanna go there, but
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  • You should look it up.
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  • And then you should ask yourself the question, is following
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  • Jesus weak?
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  • Is following jesus passive?
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  • Is following jesus a way to simply lose and to lose and to
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  • Lose and to lose?
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  • But when you read her words, when you read what she says
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  • Publicly to the man that did more damage to her than anyone
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  • That'll ever do damage to her, you just stop and stare.
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  • It's suddenly a little light cuts through.
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  • And here's the point.
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  • Jesus invites all of us to be that better.
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  • And in the end, he died that better.
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  • Luke actually documents jesus's specific invitation to his
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  • Followers to live that kind of life and to demonstrate
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  • That posture.
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  • Jesus says, okay, let me put it out there for you this way.
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  • If any one of you, if any one of you desires to come after me,
  • 00:12:38.742 --> 00:12:43.147
  • Literally, if any of you desire to line up behind me, be a part
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  • Of my movement and move along with me.
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  • Yeah, that's what we wanna do, jesus.
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  • He said, okay, then here's what you're gonna have to do.
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  • You're going to have to--they're going to have to
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  • Deny themselves.
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  • It's going to require that you say no to you.
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  • It's gonna require that you are not ruled by your appetite,
  • 00:13:02.499 --> 00:13:05.502
  • You're not ruled by your ambition, and you're not ruled
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  • By the rules of the day.
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  • You will neither have the opportunity to act or react like
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  • Everybody else around you.
  • 00:13:16.146 --> 00:13:18.115
  • And then he said something that means almost nothing to us, but
  • 00:13:18.115 --> 00:13:21.218
  • It meant everything to the people in his audience.
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  • And to be specific, you're gonna deny yourself and you're gonna
  • 00:13:23.687 --> 00:13:26.891
  • Take up a cross.
  • 00:13:26.891 --> 00:13:29.260
  • We'll take up his cross.
  • 00:13:29.260 --> 00:13:30.594
  • Now, in the 1st century, if you were carrying a cross, you
  • 00:13:30.594 --> 00:13:33.564
  • Know what that meant?
  • 00:13:33.564 --> 00:13:34.932
  • It meant that your independence had come to an end.
  • 00:13:34.932 --> 00:13:39.770
  • And then jesus adds a very disturbing but very important
  • 00:13:39.770 --> 00:13:43.874
  • Word to what he says.
  • 00:13:43.874 --> 00:13:45.910
  • This is the challenge.
  • 00:13:45.910 --> 00:13:47.511
  • This is honestly is the differentiator.
  • 00:13:47.511 --> 00:13:49.880
  • This is the difference between a believer and a follower.
  • 00:13:49.880 --> 00:13:53.951
  • This is the difference between somebody who has internalized
  • 00:13:53.951 --> 00:13:56.787
  • Their christianity because they hope it will serve them well and
  • 00:13:56.787 --> 00:13:59.957
  • Someone who is following jesus and wants to make a difference
  • 00:13:59.957 --> 00:14:02.793
  • In the world.
  • 00:14:02.793 --> 00:14:05.796
  • Daily, daily, you can pray a sinner's prayer, pray a
  • 00:14:05.796 --> 00:14:11.835
  • Salvation prayer once, but this is different.
  • 00:14:11.835 --> 00:14:15.973
  • And luke would say, and i'm telling you this is what makes
  • 00:14:15.973 --> 00:14:20.077
  • The difference, and this is what made the difference, and this is
  • 00:14:20.077 --> 00:14:23.914
  • Why the message of jesus survived the empire and survived
  • 00:14:23.914 --> 00:14:28.152
  • The temple because his followers were difference makers and they
  • 00:14:28.152 --> 00:14:31.956
  • Actually did this stuff and it caught on.
  • 00:14:31.956 --> 00:14:37.895
  • This is a daily decision.
  • 00:14:37.895 --> 00:14:40.397
  • This is every single morning, thy kingdom come, not
  • 00:14:40.397 --> 00:14:43.600
  • My kingdom.
  • 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:44.935
  • Every single morning, thy will be done, not my will be done.
  • 00:14:44.935 --> 00:14:48.072
  • This is every single morning, in my life as it is in heaven.
  • 00:14:48.072 --> 00:14:52.176
  • Because you are my, not just my savior, not just the forgiver of
  • 00:14:52.176 --> 00:14:55.546
  • My sins, you are my lord and you are my king, and i submit all i
  • 00:14:55.546 --> 00:15:00.284
  • Am to all of you, my hands, my feet, my eyes, my ears, my
  • 00:15:00.284 --> 00:15:03.454
  • Thoughts, my resources.
  • 00:15:03.454 --> 00:15:04.855
  • I am 100% yours.
  • 00:15:04.855 --> 00:15:07.224
  • I am carrying a cross.
  • 00:15:07.224 --> 00:15:08.892
  • I am abandoning my independence.
  • 00:15:08.892 --> 00:15:18.402
  • "and follow me," because that's what it means to follow jesus.
  • 00:15:18.402 --> 00:15:25.342
  • To get in line behind him, to move along with his movement
  • 00:15:25.342 --> 00:15:28.946
  • Means i say no to me, and you say no to you, that i submit to
  • 00:15:28.946 --> 00:15:32.683
  • Him, that i literally follow.
  • 00:15:32.683 --> 00:15:36.653
  • So again, if you're a christian, if you're a believer, do you
  • 00:15:36.653 --> 00:15:41.225
  • Do that?
  • 00:15:41.225 --> 00:15:42.960
  • Do i do that?
  • 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:44.728
  • Is that what characterizes us?
  • 00:15:44.728 --> 00:15:47.231
  • Or have we fallen into the average christian experience of
  • 00:15:47.231 --> 00:15:51.068
  • Forgive me of my sin, bless my family and thank you for the
  • 00:15:51.068 --> 00:15:54.038
  • Food, and if there's a problem, i'll let you know.
  • 00:15:54.038 --> 00:15:57.174
  • Those aren't the people that changed the world, those aren't
  • 00:15:57.174 --> 00:15:59.276
  • The people that changed anything.
  • 00:15:59.276 --> 00:16:02.679
  • And luke's like, i know it sounds like a lot.
  • 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:05.315
  • And when he said it, it sounded like a lot and people withdrew
  • 00:16:05.315 --> 00:16:08.952
  • And people didn't get it and at the very end, i mean, luke
  • 00:16:08.952 --> 00:16:11.321
  • Documents it, the gospel writers documented.
  • 00:16:11.321 --> 00:16:13.490
  • I think peter's like, "yeah, just put it in there."
  • 00:16:13.490 --> 00:16:16.593
  • We all ran away.
  • 00:16:16.593 --> 00:16:17.961
  • It was too much for us.
  • 00:16:17.961 --> 00:16:19.296
  • We didn't wanna lose.
  • 00:16:19.296 --> 00:16:22.332
  • Because we didn't understand, we didn't understand that the
  • 00:16:22.332 --> 00:16:25.536
  • Alternative to what jesus was inviting us to do was to be
  • 00:16:25.536 --> 00:16:29.239
  • Small, to be independent and small, and to live small little
  • 00:16:29.239 --> 00:16:33.610
  • Lives that was gonna be just all about us, appetite driven,
  • 00:16:33.610 --> 00:16:37.281
  • Consumer driven, close handed, striving, you know, clinging
  • 00:16:37.281 --> 00:16:41.118
  • To things.
  • 00:16:41.118 --> 00:16:42.920
  • He says, here's how to ensure that that's not the situation
  • 00:16:42.920 --> 00:16:45.889
  • With you, "for whoever wants to save their life, he's gonna
  • 00:16:45.889 --> 00:16:51.562
  • Lose it."
  • 00:16:51.562 --> 00:16:53.464
  • Well, whatever, don't miss this, whatever you cling to diminishes
  • 00:16:53.464 --> 00:17:00.003
  • Over time, loses its value.
  • 00:17:00.003 --> 00:17:03.774
  • If you hoard seed, they don't produce a crop.
  • 00:17:03.774 --> 00:17:08.378
  • If you hoard seed, they eventually rot.
  • 00:17:08.378 --> 00:17:13.884
  • "for whoever wants to save their life will lose it, but whoever
  • 00:17:13.884 --> 00:17:16.520
  • Loses their life for me," that is for my kingdom, for my
  • 00:17:16.520 --> 00:17:20.390
  • Adventure, for my movement, ultimately you save it.
  • 00:17:20.390 --> 00:17:25.829
  • Or as we say around here all the time, if you live for yourself,
  • 00:17:25.829 --> 00:17:28.499
  • You're only gonna have yourself to show for yourself.
  • 00:17:28.499 --> 00:17:31.535
  • Live for yourself, you're only gonna have yourself to show
  • 00:17:31.535 --> 00:17:34.471
  • For yourself.
  • 00:17:34.471 --> 00:17:35.806
  • And jesus is inviting us to sow our lives, our time, our talent,
  • 00:17:35.806 --> 00:17:40.244
  • Our resources so that there's something more to show.
  • 00:17:40.244 --> 00:17:44.214
  • To give our lives away to something other than us that's
  • 00:17:44.214 --> 00:17:47.584
  • Bigger than us so we'll have something other than us to show
  • 00:17:47.584 --> 00:17:51.255
  • For us.
  • 00:17:51.255 --> 00:17:52.656
  • And if this, come on, if this sounds threatening, if this
  • 00:17:52.656 --> 00:17:56.560
  • Sounds terrible, it's because we don't understand it.
  • 00:17:56.560 --> 00:18:01.064
  • And if this sounds threatening and terrible, it's because we've
  • 00:18:01.064 --> 00:18:03.333
  • Never seen it lived out or we haven't recognized it when we
  • 00:18:03.333 --> 00:18:05.669
  • Have, because when you see it, it is amazing, and when you see
  • 00:18:05.669 --> 00:18:08.572
  • It, it is attractive, and when you see it, you stand at a
  • 00:18:08.572 --> 00:18:11.108
  • Distance and you think, i would like to be more like that, and i
  • 00:18:11.108 --> 00:18:14.211
  • Hope i would have responded like that, and i hope i would have
  • 00:18:14.211 --> 00:18:16.713
  • Reacted like that, and i hope i could come through on the other
  • 00:18:16.713 --> 00:18:19.249
  • End and look like him and look like her and have the confidence
  • 00:18:19.249 --> 00:18:21.985
  • They have and the contentment they have.
  • 00:18:21.985 --> 00:18:23.687
  • I hope, i hope, i hope, and jesus is saying, this is what
  • 00:18:23.687 --> 00:18:26.623
  • I'm inviting you to do.
  • 00:18:26.623 --> 00:18:28.659
  • Because whatever it is you're clinging to, you're gonna lose
  • 00:18:28.659 --> 00:18:31.295
  • Anyway and whatever you're clinging to and hoping it never
  • 00:18:31.295 --> 00:18:33.664
  • Slips out of your hands, it's just going to diminish and i am
  • 00:18:33.664 --> 00:18:36.533
  • Inviting you to something bigger and something better and
  • 00:18:36.533 --> 00:18:40.771
  • Something far more significant.
  • 00:18:40.771 --> 00:18:43.140
  • It is the invitation.
  • 00:18:43.140 --> 00:18:44.541
  • It really is the invitation of a lifetime, an invitation to do
  • 00:18:44.541 --> 00:18:51.048
  • Something noticeable and noteworthy, that's not
  • 00:18:51.048 --> 00:18:53.250
  • About you.
  • 00:18:53.250 --> 00:18:54.585
  • And then he ends with this question, "what good is it?"
  • 00:18:54.585 --> 00:19:01.792
  • It's like, let's go to the end.
  • 00:19:01.792 --> 00:19:03.126
  • Let's turn this whole thing around.
  • 00:19:03.126 --> 00:19:05.229
  • "what good is it if somebody gains the whole world," that is
  • 00:19:05.229 --> 00:19:09.633
  • Whatever you wanted, whatever you were chasing, you got it,
  • 00:19:09.633 --> 00:19:14.071
  • "and yet in the end they lose or forfeit their very self."
  • 00:19:14.071 --> 00:19:18.842
  • And in other words, he says, what good is it to think the
  • 00:19:18.842 --> 00:19:22.746
  • Whole time you're winning only to discover that when the clock
  • 00:19:22.746 --> 00:19:27.017
  • Runs out, you weren't even playing the right game.
  • 00:19:27.017 --> 00:19:30.354
  • And luke's like, okay, this is the point.
  • 00:19:30.354 --> 00:19:33.156
  • This is why you gotta go back and reread everything he said
  • 00:19:33.156 --> 00:19:35.525
  • And did now that you have the end of mind.
  • 00:19:35.525 --> 00:19:37.628
  • Because he is inviting us not to a better version of the way that
  • 00:19:37.628 --> 00:19:41.765
  • You're currently living.
  • 00:19:41.765 --> 00:19:43.100
  • He's not inviting us to, you know, to current culture,
  • 00:19:43.100 --> 00:19:46.303
  • Current pace, current priorities, you know, 201.
  • 00:19:46.303 --> 00:19:49.506
  • He's luke's like, no, no, we finally understood.
  • 00:19:49.506 --> 00:19:52.242
  • He was inviting us to something entirely different.
  • 00:19:52.242 --> 00:19:55.112
  • He really was the king that came to reverse the order of things,
  • 00:19:55.112 --> 00:19:59.082
  • That when he said, "the son of man did not come to be served
  • 00:19:59.082 --> 00:20:02.019
  • But to serve and to give his life a ransom for many," that
  • 00:20:02.019 --> 00:20:04.988
  • Wasn't a metaphor, that wasn't a word picture, that was literal.
  • 00:20:04.988 --> 00:20:10.560
  • And in the end it all came into focus.
  • 00:20:10.560 --> 00:20:13.830
  • And we finally understood that if we're not careful, we're
  • 00:20:13.830 --> 00:20:17.267
  • Gonna live little itty bitty lives consumed on ourselves, and
  • 00:20:17.267 --> 00:20:21.738
  • He was inviting us to something grand, bigger, something that
  • 00:20:21.738 --> 00:20:27.744
  • Would have fruit that would last and remain beyond our lifetime,
  • 00:20:27.744 --> 00:20:32.416
  • Beyond our generation.
  • 00:20:32.416 --> 00:20:35.686
  • It's an invitation to give what we can't keep anyway.
  • 00:20:35.686 --> 00:20:41.491
  • And he played that out and lived that out to the very end.
  • 00:20:41.491 --> 00:20:48.965
  • "father, forgive them," because they think they know, but they
  • 00:20:48.965 --> 00:20:58.141
  • Don't really know what they're--they don't know what
  • 00:20:58.141 --> 00:20:59.676
  • They're doing because they're not in the game.
  • 00:20:59.676 --> 00:21:02.946
  • Just forgive them.
  • 00:21:02.946 --> 00:21:06.516
  • Then luke got the following from the folks who were there, the
  • 00:21:06.516 --> 00:21:09.786
  • Rulers, the people who were kind of responsible for jesus being
  • 00:21:09.786 --> 00:21:12.789
  • Crucified, the rulers sneered at him while he's dying.
  • 00:21:12.789 --> 00:21:16.193
  • They said, "he saved others; let him save himself if he is the
  • 00:21:16.193 --> 00:21:19.930
  • Christ," if he is the messiah, "if he is the chosen one."
  • 00:21:19.930 --> 00:21:22.866
  • Come on, if he's a king, come on, if he's a king, didn't he
  • 00:21:22.866 --> 00:21:26.803
  • Say he was a king?
  • 00:21:26.803 --> 00:21:28.138
  • If he's a king, he should act like a king.
  • 00:21:28.138 --> 00:21:30.574
  • Kings don't allow themselves to be taken without a fight.
  • 00:21:30.574 --> 00:21:33.810
  • He is no king.
  • 00:21:33.810 --> 00:21:36.713
  • The soldiers joined in.
  • 00:21:36.713 --> 00:21:38.048
  • The soldiers came up and mocked him.
  • 00:21:38.048 --> 00:21:40.650
  • They offered him wine vinegar.
  • 00:21:40.650 --> 00:21:42.285
  • These are auxiliaries.
  • 00:21:42.285 --> 00:21:44.254
  • These are men who've been hired by rome to serve in the legions
  • 00:21:44.254 --> 00:21:47.524
  • Who aren't roman citizens.
  • 00:21:47.524 --> 00:21:48.892
  • They're not even roman.
  • 00:21:48.892 --> 00:21:50.227
  • They've never been to italy.
  • 00:21:50.227 --> 00:21:51.595
  • They're from the surrounding regions, and they hate the
  • 00:21:51.595 --> 00:21:53.630
  • Galileans and they hate the judeans anyway, and they're
  • 00:21:53.630 --> 00:21:56.533
  • Allowed to crucify one.
  • 00:21:56.533 --> 00:21:57.968
  • This is--they're celebrating.
  • 00:21:57.968 --> 00:21:59.870
  • They don't know who he is. they don't care who he is.
  • 00:21:59.870 --> 00:22:01.571
  • They're just celebrating the end of another galilean.
  • 00:22:01.571 --> 00:22:06.243
  • "they offered him wine vinegar and they said, 'if you are the
  • 00:22:06.243 --> 00:22:08.078
  • King of the jews, save yourself.'"
  • 00:22:08.078 --> 00:22:11.648
  • Come on, if you're a king, do what kings do, do something for
  • 00:22:11.648 --> 00:22:14.985
  • You, we know how it works.
  • 00:22:14.985 --> 00:22:19.156
  • Remember this part?
  • 00:22:19.156 --> 00:22:20.524
  • And then one of the criminals who hung there, hurled insults
  • 00:22:20.524 --> 00:22:24.494
  • At him, "aren't you the christ?
  • 00:22:24.494 --> 00:22:27.330
  • Save yourself."
  • 00:22:27.330 --> 00:22:28.665
  • Come on, do you not know how the world works?
  • 00:22:28.665 --> 00:22:30.801
  • If you are a king, save yourself, that's what kings do.
  • 00:22:30.801 --> 00:22:36.973
  • And while you're at it, "and us."
  • 00:22:36.973 --> 00:22:45.282
  • What they did not know, what they did not understand, and
  • 00:22:45.282 --> 00:22:48.652
  • What luke is, you know, he's like he just wants to reach off
  • 00:22:48.652 --> 00:22:51.421
  • The page and grab us again by the collar, put his hand behind
  • 00:22:51.421 --> 00:22:54.291
  • Her neck and say, "do you understand what happened?"
  • 00:22:54.291 --> 00:22:58.028
  • Luke would say, what they did not know because they weren't at
  • 00:22:58.028 --> 00:23:01.364
  • The end of the end of the story yet.
  • 00:23:01.364 --> 00:23:03.033
  • What they did not know is if he had saved himself, he would have
  • 00:23:03.033 --> 00:23:08.238
  • Forfeited his ability to save them.
  • 00:23:08.238 --> 00:23:15.745
  • If he had saved himself, he would have forfeited his
  • 00:23:15.745 --> 00:23:19.916
  • Ability, his opportunity to save you.
  • 00:23:19.916 --> 00:23:24.621
  • He was others first to the bloody, bitter, painful,
  • 00:23:24.621 --> 00:23:30.460
  • Shameful end.
  • 00:23:30.460 --> 00:23:36.132
  • Kingdoms of this world, kingdom of god.
  • 00:23:36.132 --> 00:23:39.703
  • Kingdoms of this world, kingdom of god.
  • 00:23:39.703 --> 00:23:44.508
  • So who?
  • 00:23:44.508 --> 00:23:47.511
  • Who are you gonna follow?
  • 00:23:47.511 --> 00:23:50.313
  • Who am i gonna follow?
  • 00:23:50.313 --> 00:23:52.415
  • What am i gonna follow?
  • 00:23:52.415 --> 00:23:53.750
  • What are you gonna follow?
  • 00:23:53.750 --> 00:23:55.719
  • Who's gonna rule me?
  • 00:23:55.719 --> 00:23:57.487
  • Me?
  • 00:23:57.487 --> 00:23:58.855
  • Who's gonna rule you?
  • 00:23:58.855 --> 00:24:00.190
  • You?
  • 00:24:00.190 --> 00:24:01.525
  • Who's gonna be the boss of you, the king of you?
  • 00:24:01.525 --> 00:24:03.059
  • Your appetites, your ambition, your goals and your subset of
  • 00:24:03.059 --> 00:24:07.964
  • Goals and all those things that we should all do because all
  • 00:24:07.964 --> 00:24:10.033
  • Those things are important, but at the end of the day, who has
  • 00:24:10.033 --> 00:24:12.969
  • The final say in your life?
  • 00:24:12.969 --> 00:24:14.304
  • Who has the final say in my life?
  • 00:24:14.304 --> 00:24:17.340
  • So we all have a decision to make, every single one of us.
  • 00:24:17.340 --> 00:24:22.946
  • Are you an admirer?
  • 00:24:22.946 --> 00:24:26.216
  • I mean, pretty much everybody on planet earth admires
  • 00:24:26.216 --> 00:24:29.519
  • Jesus, right?
  • 00:24:29.519 --> 00:24:30.854
  • Even people of other religions, because they extract certain
  • 00:24:30.854 --> 00:24:34.124
  • Parts of the message that like all the one liners and the punch
  • 00:24:34.124 --> 00:24:36.593
  • Lines, the parables.
  • 00:24:36.593 --> 00:24:37.961
  • Luke's like, oh, oh, oh, oh, you can't admire this guy.
  • 00:24:37.961 --> 00:24:40.931
  • You haven't read my account.
  • 00:24:40.931 --> 00:24:42.465
  • If you just admire him, you don't get it.
  • 00:24:42.465 --> 00:24:46.870
  • Admirer, follower.
  • 00:24:46.870 --> 00:24:54.077
  • This is a daily decision.
  • 00:24:54.077 --> 00:24:59.182
  • And the people who choose wisely daily are the people who change
  • 00:24:59.182 --> 00:25:04.087
  • The world.
  • 00:25:04.087 --> 00:25:05.455
  • And if i could just, you know, twist the knife just a little
  • 00:25:05.455 --> 00:25:08.725
  • Bit, isn't there something, isn't there something a little
  • 00:25:08.725 --> 00:25:11.962
  • Bit, you know, duplicitous or disingenuous about accepting
  • 00:25:11.962 --> 00:25:18.234
  • Jesus forgiveness, but resisting his invitation to follow?
  • 00:25:18.234 --> 00:25:25.609
  • You know, i don't want to eat broccoli, i'll just have
  • 00:25:25.609 --> 00:25:28.111
  • Ice cream.
  • 00:25:28.111 --> 00:25:29.813
  • Now, i don't like this.
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  • I just like--luke's like, whoa, you can't do that.
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  • He hasn't just invited you to get forgiven.
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  • He's invited us to follow, and it is a good invitation.
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  • It is a good decision.
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  • It is a better way to live.
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  • "it was about noon, darkness came over the whole land until
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  • Three in the afternoon, for the sun stopped shining."
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  • And nobody saw this coming.
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  • There was no prophecy.
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  • This was like what?
  • 00:26:07.517 --> 00:26:09.452
  • "and the curtain of the temple was torn in two."
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  • Now there were two giant curtains in the temple.
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  • We don't know which one luke's referring to, but two other
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  • Gospel writers say the curtain was ripped in two, and it wasn't
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  • Ripped in two from the bottom to the top like two folks got hold
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  • Of it, slit it, and just ripped it open, plus the thing's about
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  • 12 inches thick, you know.
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  • It was ripped from the top to the bottom, and one of these
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  • Curtains separated the holy of holies from everything outside
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  • The holy of holies that most holy place, and the other one
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  • Just separated the temple from the outer court.
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  • We don't know which one was torn.
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  • It doesn't matter.
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  • But do you know what it symbolized?
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  • It symbolized that god in some sort of 1st century
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  • Understanding way was leaving the temple to seek and to find
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  • And to reclaim his rebel race, his lost sheep, his lost coin,
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  • His lost son, his lost daughter and that the era of the temple
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  • Had come to an end.
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  • That everybody was invited because if everybody
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  • Participated, the world would certainly change.
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