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Andy Stanley - Under The Circumstances (Part 3)

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Your Move with Andy Stanley | Andy Stanley - Under The Circumstances (Part 3) | July 10, 2026

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Andy stanley: hi, everybody, welcome to "your move," where we
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Help you make better decisions and live with fewer regrets.
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I'm andy stanley, and i'll be your guide, and today, we're
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Going to explore what god is like and who god likes.
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And while i'm no expert, i've read the biographies of someone
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Who is, namely jesus of nazareth.
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Now, this is amazing.
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Jesus came to illustrate and demonstrate what god is like and
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Who god likes, and, as it turns out, he likes you, and i'll tell
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You why right here on "your move."
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Stick around.
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♪♪♪
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Andy: today, we're wrapping up our series, three-part series,
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"under the circumstances: holding on to god when it
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Appears god is no longer holding on to you."
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And in this series, we are exploring the question--not
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Answering it.
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We're exploring the question, what do our circumstances say
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About the love of god?
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And what do your circumstances say about the presence of god?
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What do your circumstances say, if anything, about the existence
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Of god?
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Because we're all tempted, all of us, me included, we're all
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Tempted to jump to conclusions about god based on our
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Circumstances, both positive circumstances and negative, our
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Circumstances and the circumstances of other people.
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And when things are up and to the right, god's a blessing.
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When things are up and the right, i got god all
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Figured out.
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When things are up into the right, you know, god is good.
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God is good all the time, right?
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When things are down and to the right, "where's god?
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Is there god?
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What am i doing wrong, or what did i do wrong to somehow
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Deserve this?"
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Now, if you have to leave early or tune out early, i hope you
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Don't, i just want to go ahead and give you the bottom line.
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This is so important.
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Circumstances, regardless of how negative they are, circumstances
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Regardless of how extreme they are, circumstances do not have
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To be an off-ramp to faith.
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Jesus went out of his way to create a scenario to make that
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Very point.
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If you missed part one of this series, you need to go back
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And watch it.
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Jesus went out of his way to create a scenario to prove to us
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And to give us an example that the most negative circumstances
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Imaginable do not have to be an off-ramp to your faith.
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And today, we're gonna discover that doubt and doubts don't have
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To be an off-ramp to our faith either.
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Exhibit a, john the baptist.
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In fact, john the baptist's story is a reminder that,
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Actually, that doubt and doubts are baked into the story of
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Christianity, that if you have doubts, there's nothing wrong
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With you, you were probably right where you need to be, and
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You're going to discover yourself in today's story.
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Now, if--as you probably know if you've been around church,
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John the baptist took on the role of a prophet, which meant
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There was no nuance.
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Everything was good or it was bad.
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There's no in between.
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There's no gray.
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There's no compromise.
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He called it as he saw it.
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He was not shy.
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He was not capable of compromise.
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So, when king herod antipas decided to marry his brother's
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Wife, john decided, "okay, i gotta talk about that.
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I gotta talk about it publicly," because that was against
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The law.
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You couldn't marry your brother's wife, even if they
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Were divorced.
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And not only that, he's the king, and as the king goes, you
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Know, so goes society.
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So john the baptist would talk about this in public.
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I mean, maybe--you know, they're carting and herodias or
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Herod antipas through the--you know, through the streets on one
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Of those things they would carry on slave--shoulders of slaves.
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That's how they traveled because they were above the ground and
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The dirt, you know, was muddy and didn't get your feet muddy.
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That's what they did.
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And they had little shades pulled.
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And, you know, they're going through this town and, and they
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Hear john the baptist, "adulterous,
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Adulteress, adulterous!"
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I mean, he just--it's like he just called him out, and he's--
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In his mind, he's doing the right thing.
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I mean, he's speaking truth to power, right?
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This is what he would say, literally.
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We were told in the text.
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This is amazing.
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Mark tells us, and mark was-- mark got all this information
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From peter, who was there for all this.
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"it is not lawful for you to have your brother's wife."
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I mean, it's not just you're committing--committed adultery,
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It's not lawful for you.
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You are breaking torah.
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You are violating god's standards.
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You are you are ceremonially unclean.
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"it is not lawful for you to have your brother's wife."
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So, as you might imagine, herodias, the new wife, nursed
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A grudge against john and wanted to kill him.
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Of course he did, but there was a problem: "but she was not able
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To do so because herod feared john and he protected him,"
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Specifically from herodias, right, "knowing him to be
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A righteous and holy man."
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I mean, herod antipas knows, "okay, what i did was not cool
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At all.
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It did violate god's law.
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I know what i would think about something else doing this."
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So he knew he was guilty.
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So when herod heard john--this is amazing.
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"when herod heard john," because he'd loved to hear him speak,
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"he was greatly puzzled; and yet he liked to listen to him."
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Well, eventually, herodias has her way, and she at least
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Convinces her husband to have john the baptist arrested.
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So john the baptist gets arrested by herod's men, and
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Herod and--wisely does not imprison him in jerusalem where
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Herodias could get to him.
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He imprisons john the baptist in a desert dungeon back down in
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The jordan river valley, far away from the city of jerusalem.
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But it is a miserable, miserable, miserable place
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To be.
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And perhaps i think he put him there to protect him from his
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New wife.
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And this is when the story goes completely off the rails.
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This is when the story gets extraordinarily confusing, or
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Perhaps extraordinarily encouraging.
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Are you ready for this?
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"now when jesus heard that john," cousin john.
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"now when jesus heard that john," the most popular man in
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Judea, righteous man, everybody knows he's a good guy.
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"when jesus heard that john had been taken into custody," what
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Do you think jesus did?
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Spring him, bust him out, send an angel to bust him out, send
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Some friends, you know, bake some brownies and visit him at
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Least, loaves and fish, you know, or turn herodias into
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A loaf and feed her to the fish?
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I mean, there's all kinds of things, you know, jesus could
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Have done.
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This is so strange.
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And matthew, who's there for all this--matthew was a tax
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Collector who had people who worked for him, scribes, who
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Scribed everything down.
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That's why matthew's gospel account is so full of detail.
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Listen to how matthew explains what happened.
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"now when jesus heard that john had been taken into custody,
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He withdrew."
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If we had a map, it would illustrate just how much
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He withdrew.
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"he withdrew to galilee.
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Leaving nazareth, he went and lived," not visited,
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Not vacation.
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"he went and lived in capernaum."
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If you had a map of the holy land, judea and jerusalem is in
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The south, jesus left the south, left judea, went all the way to
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Galilee, and went as far north into galilee as he
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Possibly could.
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He gets to the sea of galilee, and he goes all the way up to
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The very tip top of the lake.
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He's--by walking distance, he's close to 200 miles away or more
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From john the baptist, and he wasn't already there when he
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Heard--this is what's amazing.
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When he heard what happened to john, matthew sandwiches these
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Two ideas together almost in a single sentence.
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Jesus automatically and immediately withdrew to galilee,
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And, get this, he settles in capernaum, which is a beautiful,
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Beautiful fishing village on the north end of the sea of galilee.
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John the baptist is arrested, put in a dungeon, jesus went to
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The lake, and he didn't just go for the weekend, he went and he
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Lived there with his guys, the opposite direction while john is
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Sweating it out in a desert dungeon.
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Andy: hey, i wanted to take just a minute to address a growing
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Crisis in america.
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Did you know that nearly 75 million americans have no
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Religious affiliation, none whatsoever?
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Most of us know some of these people.
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Many of us are related to some of these people.
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So for us they aren't statistics, they're people we
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Love and would love to see return to faith in jesus.
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So, at "your move," we are committed to reaching people
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With the teaching of jesus right where they are and when they
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Least expect it.
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Andy: do you ever feel like god is a million miles away?
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That in your moment of greatest need, you've never felt more
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Distance from god?
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I know you have felt that.
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When things are up and to the right, you just feel like
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A presence of god.
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You know, you sing these songs with, you know, so much
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Enthusiasm, and then circumstances turn, and it's
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Like, "where is god?"
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You ever feel like god's a million miles away, kick back at
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The lake while you're sweating it out?
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You are not the first.
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You won't be the last.
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Matthew's like, "i want to make sure you see the connection
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Between these two big ideas."
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Isn't that amazing?
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So john is in prison for a year.
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Let me tell you about prisons back then.
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They did not have a cafeteria.
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Didn't have a lunch line.
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You didn't get some time out, you know, to stretch your
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Legs, okay?
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Nothing like that.
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You're in a hole in the ground, or you're in a, you know,
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Basically a brick building that you're let out from time
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To time.
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There's no food.
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The only way you're going to eat is if you have
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Friends and family.
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If you don't have friends and family that visit you, bring you
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Food, you may starve to death.
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You may just die of malnutrition or thirst, because there's--
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It's not a food program.
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So john the baptist has people coming and going and taking care
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Of him.
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So a year goes by, never hears from jesus.
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Six months goes by, never hears from jesus.
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And the greatest man born of women, according to jesus,
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Begins to doubt because what was true of us is true of john.
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A change of scenery rocked his serenity.
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Things are up and to the right, god is good.
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Things take a turn for the worse, you get that call,
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You get that call from one of your kids, it's like, "oh, no,
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Where's god?"
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And john the baptist begins to wonder if maybe he had jesus
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All wrong.
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And there we are, once again, right in the middle
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Of the story.
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But there's more insult to injury.
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John receives regular updates on all the amazing things jesus
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Is doing for other people.
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His disciples actually are coming and going.
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John's disciples are coming and going, and they're keeping
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John updated.
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It's like, "john, you're not gonna believe what your cousin
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Did this time.
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Okay, you ready for this?
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He's on his way. he preached this amazing sermon.
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We don't understand what most of it meant, but anyway, right
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Afterwards, he comes down into the town, and a centurion comes
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Up to your cousin and says, 'hey, my servant is at
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Home sick.'
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And your cousin, the rabbi jesus, said to a centurion he'd
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Never met before, 'i'll go to your house and heal your servant
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That i've never met before.'
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And then on their way, he stops, and he heals the servant from
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Four blocks away.
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Your cousin works remotely.
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It's amazing!
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He can say words and people are healed."
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And john is thinking exactly what we would be thinking: "well
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Then, why not me?
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Why not me?
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Why doesn't he just say the word?
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Whatever happened to the part about, 'i've come to set the
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Captives free'?
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I'm an actual captive, and you know my name.
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What about me?"
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And, once again, there we are in the story.
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I wanna be happy for all the happy people.
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I wanna be happy for all the healthy people.
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You wanna be happy for all the people who had children
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And grandchildren.
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You wanna be happy for the people whose marriage made it
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And the counseling worked, and they overcame the thing they
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Overcame, and their husband overcame--you wanna be happy
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For them, and i wanna be happy for you.
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John the baptist, the greatest man who ever lived, according to
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Jesus, right?
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Isn't god good to you?
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Why is it that god comes through for everybody but you?
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Why is it that god seems to be coming through for everybody
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Right now but you?
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That's john the baptist, one of jesus's favorite people.
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Well, finally, john, he's had enough, because he's human,
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Like us.
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And so the text says, "when john, who was in prison, heard
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About the deeds of the messiah, he sent his disciples to
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Ask him."
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So it's like, "okay, i keep hearing all this stuff, but i've
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Got some questions.
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This isn't making any sense.
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You're doing all this amazing stuff, meanwhile, you're letting
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Me rot in a prison, and i didn't do anything wrong.
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In fact, i did something right.
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I did the bold thing, the powerful thing, the courageous
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Thing, and now i'm suffering for doing the right thing.
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So how about delivering me from our sick king?"
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So, "when john, who was in prison, heard about the deeds of
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The messiah, he sent his disciples to ask him."
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Here's the question he sent to jesus.
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Here we are again in the story.
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"are you the one?
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It's--was i mistaken?
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Have i been believing a fairy tale?
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Have i been believing a lie?
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Are you the one who is to come?"
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I mean, this is john the baptist, who announced jesus is
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The one who was to come.
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"oh, the lamb of god, who comes to take us into the world."
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"but i don't know anymore.
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Are you the one who is to come, or should we expect
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Someone else?"
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Jesus said to john's disciples, "go back and report to john what
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You hear and see," to which they thought, "okay, that's not like
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Really encouraging.
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We wanna let you know we've been doing that all along.
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He's not encouraged by all the things you're doing for
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Everybody else that you never met until they ask."
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And john--jesus is like, "no, no, i want you to go back and
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Tell him what you hear then see, and i want you to tell him
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This specifically.
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Tell cousin john, tell the prophet, tell him that the blind
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Receive their sight."
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This is unheard of.
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This is remarkable.
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"and tell him that men and women who've never walked before are
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Walking, and those who had leprosy are cleansed, and the
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Deaf hear, and the dead are raised."
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And they say, "okay, we'll tell him."
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They write it down, remember it, and they leave, and then--
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This is the best part.
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Then jesus says something for us.
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He addresses the crowd, but he doesn't say this for the crowd.
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He says this for me, he says this for us, for those of us who
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Wonder if god knows and wonder if god really cares.
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And jesus looks at that audience, but he says this for
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You, and he says that--this for me, he says this for us.
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And this is i, i'm gonna read it to you, but i gotta say it
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One more time.
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Nobody would make this up.
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Nobody in the first century could make this up.
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Jesus looks at them and speaks to us, and he says this, it's
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Amazing, "happy," or blessed, "is anyone," of any generation.
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"blessed is anyone who does not stumble on account of me."
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Jesus anticipated your confusion and mine.
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Jesus anticipated our doubts.
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Jesus anticipated as we sit back and try to make this a formula,
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And i thought, "if i did, god must, and if i promised, then
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God will."
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I thought there was some kind of formula, some kind of code, and
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God's not acting like i think god should act, and jesus isn't
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Responding like i think jesus should respond.
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And jesus is saying, "blessed is the person, blessed is the
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Person that does not get tripped up when i don't act like they
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Think i ought to act.
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Blessed are the followers who don't quit following when their
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Heavenly father doesn't do what they think their heavenly father
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Ought to do."
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He anticipated our confusion.
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His response, or nonresponse, may trip us up.
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His response or nonresponse may cause us to doubt.
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It might tempt us to walk away, and that's unnecessary, and i
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Wanna say this to some of you today because you're right on
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The edge of that.
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You're reaching for the doorknob to go, okay?
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The reason jesus said this is this: he knows--and some of you
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Have experienced this--that when you lose faith, you opt for
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Something to substitute for your faith.
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When you decide god's not it, jesus is not it, christianity is
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Not it, you will opt for something else.
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You will choose something else, and that something else usually
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Makes things worse, not better.
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I love what philip yancey says.
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I don't even remember which book this was from, but i just hang
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On to this.
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He says, "the only thing worse than disappointment with god is
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Trying to navigate disappointment without god."
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The only thing worse than disappointment with god--god's
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Not acting the way i think god should act--is facing
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Disappointment once you've put god in the rearview mirror
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Because in that moment, you have no hope of ever making sense of
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Things, and you have no hope that things will ever
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Make sense.
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And jesus says--this is amazing.
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He says, "i understand.
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I understand how my behavior, i understand how the inactivity of
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The heavenly father, i understand how unanswered prayer
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May trip you up.
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Blessed is the one who doesn't allow themselves to be
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Tripped up."
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"happy, happy is the one who does not confuse my silence for
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My absence."
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Happy is the follower who follows anyway.
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Happy is the believer who continues to believe anyway.
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And then john's disciples leave to go tell john the good news.
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Jesus makes the comment i just read, and this is when he says
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To the audience--because they're confused, like, "why
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Don't you go with them?
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Why don't you do something?
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We love john the baptist.
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I mean, john the baptist is a legend.
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Why don't you do something?"
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And jesus assures them, he says, "no, i get it.
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I understand how my behavior is so confusing to you, so let me
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Just assure you."
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This is when he says it.
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"i say to you, among those born of women there is no one greater
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Than john the baptist!"
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He's the best.
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He's one of my favorites.
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But i'm not going to rescue him.
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And he didn't.
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And he may not rescue you either, but you don't have to
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Stumble away from jesus, your savior.
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God may answer your prayer.
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He may answer it in a way you don't expect.
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He may answer your prayer and timing--that's not your timing.
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I get all that, but there may be a no.
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There may be a no rescue.
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Does that mean god doesn't care?
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Does that mean god is silent?
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Does that mean god isn't up to something?
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Absolutely not.
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Jesus arranged these scenarios, these narratives, these actual
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Historical incidents for our benefit.
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Happy are those who face adversity, trust anyway, follow
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Anyway, and don't stumble away from god, their father.
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Now, i know some of you are thinking--i would be thinking,
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"yeah, it's easy for you to say, andy.
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Easy for you to say, you don't know my story," and i don't know
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Your story.
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I'm telling you, if i was not confident of this, i would not
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Stand up here and say it.
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And if i was that other kind of preacher, i would get up here
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And say, "no, if you trust in god, it's all gonna work out.
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You're gonna get a boat."
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And then over time, we just chase off all the people who
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Don't have a boat.
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We just have a big church full of people with boats, and
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Everybody, they look around, "everything's working out.
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We must have more faith than everybody else."
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That is not christianity.
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That is not the gospel.
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You do not find that in the teaching of jesus.
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What you find is two of his favorite men he let suffer, and
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Yet he was as active as he has ever been.
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And here we are talking about him 2,000 years later.
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But i wouldn't get up here and say it if i wasn't confident.
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So on sundays, i get here early as you might imagine, and one of
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My things i like to do is just walk around the auditorium and
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Meet people.
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So in one of my journeys about a year ago, i met a woman named
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Marianne jones.
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Marianne is 86 years old, and we've--and so every sunday, she
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Stands up because she has something she wants me to do,
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And we're kind of arguing about it.
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We've been arguing for a year.
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I'm not gonna tell you what that is.
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But anyway, so when she sees me coming, she stands up, and she's
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Waiting for me.
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You know, so every sunday, marianne and i have
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A friendly conversation.
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So at some point, i wanted to ask her a question, and i got
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Her cell phone number, and so then she had my cell phone
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Number, and then every sunday, every sunday, she sends me
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A text and rates the sermon every sunday.
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Not making this up, she's going to rate today's.
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I guarantee you i'll get a text, and i usually get an eight,
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Nine, or sometimes a ten.
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A few weeks ago, i got a 100.
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I'm like, "whoa, did you change the scale, or was it really that
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Good," you know?
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So one sunday, i said, "marianne, i wanna know your
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Whole story.
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You're 86 years old."
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And she said, "okay."
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So i invited her to my office.
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She came, we spent two hours together.
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I said, "start from the very beginning."
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She told me her whole story.
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Very, very difficult childhood.
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Just needed to escape the home.
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Met her husband, got married.
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Fast-forwarding, had three beautiful daughters, and then
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Their youngest daughter, karen, when she was 21, was hit by a
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Drunk driver--a 19-year-old drunk driver, killed instantly
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Along with a friend.
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Now, marianne was a christian, and she and tom, you know,
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Were--you know, had their faith and their personal faith and
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What with god, but this was, of course, devastating, just
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Completely devastating, just wrecked them in every single
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Kind of way, and "where's god?"
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And "why god?"
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And "we did all the right things," all the things we
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Would say, and all the questions that we would ask.
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She kind of clawed her way back to developing a faith and was
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Able to pray again and trust god again.
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About six months after that, their church had a special guest
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Speaker who came in during the week on a weeknight to do a
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Lecture on the topic of why bad things happen to good people.
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And marianne's husband didn't want to go, but marianne said,
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"i wanna go."
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So she went, and so this lecturer--this pastor got up,
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And there's about 150 people there, and he talked for about
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30-45 minutes about why bad things happen to good people.
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Then he said, "are there any questions?"
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And marianne said, "i raised my hand, and he said yes, and i
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Stood up, and i said, 'so, pastor, why do bad things happen
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To good people?'"
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After he just spent 40 minutes answering the question.
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And so she said she sat down, and he--she said he kind of
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Reviewed the whole message again and asked, "are there any
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More questions?"
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She said, "i stood back up and said, 'pastor, so why do bad
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Things happen to good people?'"
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She asked the question three times, and he explained slower
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The third time, but he just kept saying the same thing.
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And after she asked him for the third time in front of all these
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People, he kind of lost it, and he said, "i don't know why!"
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She said, "i smiled, and i said, 'that's right.
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We don't know why.'"
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And then she sat down.
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In 2009, her oldest daughter was diagnosed with a rare form of
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Breast cancer.
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Six months later, 2010, she passed away.
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That same year--later that same year in 2010, she and tom were
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With some friends in the neighborhood, and the friends
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Invited them to visit what they call the rock and roll church.
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And so marianne and tom came to north point for the first time,
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And they've been coming ever since.
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In march of 2020, tom passed away in the middle of covid.
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They celebrated his life in their garage.
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Marianne volunteers as a restore mentor at north point
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Community church.
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And what she does as a restore mentor is she meets people who
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Are under the circumstances, and she helps them restore
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Their faith.
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And she reminds them--from her own life and her own story, she
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Reminds them you don't have to explain the unexplainable to
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Follow jesus, and you don't have to find a reason for all the
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Randomness in life in order to follow jesus.
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She reminds them that doubt and questions are just part of the
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Journey and that you bring your doubts with you and you bring
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Your questions with you.
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And some of your questions will get answered, and some of your
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Questions won't ever get answered, and that's okay.
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You can continue to trust and to follow and to believe.
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Doubt--this is what's amazing about the story of lazarus, this
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Is what's amazing about the story of john the baptist--and
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There are other stories scattered through the gospels--
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Doubt is baked into the story of our faith.
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You're in the story.
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It is common.
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It's normal.
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It's acceptable.
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It is not offensive to your heavenly father, because even
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Jesus acknowledged, "you may stumble over me," he said.
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And if jesus's favorites weren't immune, i'm not immune either,
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And neither are you.
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He loved them, and he loves you, and he invites you.
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In fact, he said, "all the weary and heavy laden, i want you to
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Come to me.
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And some of you weary and heavy laden, i'm gonna lift
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The burden.
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For others of you, you're gonna endure the burden, and i'm gonna
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Give you the strength to endure the burden.
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And even if you walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
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I am with you.
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My rod and my staff will comfort you, and you do not need to be
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Afraid because i am with you, and i'm offering you hope that
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Touches down in this life because i'm offering hope that
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Extends into the life to come."
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Because jesus promised and illustrated eternal life.
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The bookends aren't here.
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The bookends are eternity.
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And so you can trust, and you can obey, and you can follow,
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And you can bring your doubts and your questions with you.
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You don't have to stumble away because god doesn't act the way
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You think god should act.
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Andy: hey, thanks so much for watching.
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You may find it hard to believe that 75 million americans claim
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No religious affiliation.
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On a personal note, perhaps you found it nearly impossible to
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Believe that your son or your daughter or perhaps a grandchild
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Drifted away from faith as part of that number.
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This is a crisis culturally, and perhaps for you it's
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A crisis personally.
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At "your move," we are committed to addressing that crisis.
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We actually have a plan to solve it, but we need your help.
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We've developed a digital online tool that invites people to take
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A personal assessment that launches them on a journey that
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Eventually intersects their questions with the teaching of
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Jesus and ultimately with a bible-teaching church in
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Their community.
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Tens of thousands of people are currently engaged in this
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Process, but we need your help to continue creating the
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Breadcrumbs, the content that keeps them moving forward on
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Their faith journey.
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We're attempting something that no one has ever attempted before
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And it is already working.
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To find out more, go to the website or call the number at
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The bottom of the screen.
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And as always, thank you so much for watching, and now
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It's your move.
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♪♪♪
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...
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Andy Stanley - Under The Circumstances (Part 3)

July 10, 2026 | 28:29

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