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May 14, 2025

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The following program is
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The following program is sponsored by cbn.
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Sponsored by cbn. >> coming up, seeing the
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>> coming up, seeing the supernatural the case for
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Supernatural the case for christ author lee strobel
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Christ author lee strobel reveals the evidence for the
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Reveals the evidence for the unseen including his own
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Unseen including his own encounter with an angel and
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Encounter with an angel and dying of cancer knowing that
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Dying of cancer knowing that the grim reaper was standing at
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The grim reaper was standing at the foot my bed.
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The foot my bed. >> one woman enters the battle
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>> one woman enters the battle of life.
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Of life. i simply had no options.
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I simply had no options. with an undefeated by her side
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With an undefeated by her side i don't need my degree on my
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I don't need my degree on my wall to see that this is a
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Wall to see that this is a miracle.
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Miracle. >> today on the 700 club a
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>> today on the 700 club a welcome to the 700 club
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Welcome to the 700 club president trump announced a
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President trump announced a series bold economic and
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Series bold economic and political initiatives in saudi
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Political initiatives in saudi arabia yesterday.
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Arabia yesterday. the moves will have a major
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The moves will have a major impact on the region the u.s.
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Impact on the region the u.s. and israel.
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And israel. >> well, this morning the
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>> well, this morning the president met with the new
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President met with the new leader of syria, a former al
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Leader of syria, a former al qaida commander.
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Qaida commander. he encouraged him to join the
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He encouraged him to join the abraham accords.
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Abraham accords. chris mitchell reports from
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Chris mitchell reports from jerusalem this morning in saudi
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Jerusalem this morning in saudi arabia.
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Arabia. president trump met with
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President trump met with syria's new leader just one day
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Syria's new leader just one day after announcing he's lifting
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After announcing he's lifting sanctions on the country.
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Sanctions on the country. the move came amidst a flurry
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The move came amidst a flurry of other activity tuesday when
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Of other activity tuesday when the president signed a deal
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The president signed a deal worth hundreds of billions of
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Worth hundreds of billions of dollars with the saudi kingdom.
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Dollars with the saudi kingdom. encourage the crown prince to
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Encourage the crown prince to recognize israel.
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Recognize israel. and issued a new warning to
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And issued a new warning to iran.
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Iran. the deals with saudi arabia
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The deals with saudi arabia amount to about $600 billion
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Amount to about $600 billion including a $142 billion arms
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Including a $142 billion arms agreement.
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Agreement. at the saudi investor
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At the saudi investor conference president trump said
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Conference president trump said he hopes saudi arabia will join
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He hopes saudi arabia will join the abraham accords.
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The abraham accords. >> it's my hope and wish and
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>> it's my hope and wish and even my dream that saudi arabia
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Even my dream that saudi arabia place i have such respect for
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Place i have such respect for especially over the last fairly
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Especially over the last fairly period of time what you've been
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Period of time what you've been able to do but will soon be
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Able to do but will soon be joining the abraham accords.
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Joining the abraham accords. but it will be a special day in
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But it will be a special day in the middle east with whole
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The middle east with whole world watching when saudi
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World watching when saudi arabia joins us and you'll be
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Arabia joins us and you'll be greatly honoring me and you'll
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Greatly honoring me and you'll be greatly all of those people
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Be greatly all of those people that have fought so hard for
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That have fought so hard for the middle east and i really
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The middle east and i really think it's going to be
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Think it's going to be something special but you'll do
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Something special but you'll do it in your own time.
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It in your own time. also criticized the regime in
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Also criticized the regime in tehran and blamed it for much
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Tehran and blamed it for much the turmoil in the middle east,
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The turmoil in the middle east, the biggest and most
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The biggest and most destructive of these forces is
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Destructive of these forces is the regime in iran which has
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The regime in iran which has caused unthinkable suffering in
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Caused unthinkable suffering in syria, lebanon in gaza, iraq,
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Syria, lebanon in gaza, iraq, yemen and beyond.
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Yemen and beyond. >> and he issued an ultimatum.
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>> and he issued an ultimatum. >> i want to make a deal with
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>> i want to make a deal with iran.
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Iran. if i can make a deal with iran,
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If i can make a deal with iran, i'll be very happy if we're
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I'll be very happy if we're going to make your region and
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Going to make your region and the world a safer place.
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The world a safer place. but if iran's leadership
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But if iran's leadership rejects this olive branch and
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Rejects this olive branch and continues to attack their
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Continues to attack their neighbors, then we will have no
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Neighbors, then we will have no choice but to inflict massive
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Choice but to inflict massive maximum pressure drive iranian
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Maximum pressure drive iranian oil exports to zero.
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Oil exports to zero. like i did before and take all
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Like i did before and take all action required to stop the
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Action required to stop the regime from ever having a
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Regime from ever having a nuclear weapon, iran will never
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Nuclear weapon, iran will never have a nuclear weapon.
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Have a nuclear weapon. >> trump also announced the
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>> trump also announced the u.s. is taking steps to
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U.s. is taking steps to normalize relations with syria
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Normalize relations with syria and will lift sanctions at the
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And will lift sanctions at the urging of saudi crown bin
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Urging of saudi crown bin salman and turkish president
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Salman and turkish president erdogan in his meeting with
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Erdogan in his meeting with syrian president al-shara
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Syrian president al-shara today.
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Today. trump encouraged him to join
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Trump encouraged him to join the abraham accords and to tell
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The abraham accords and to tell all terrorists to leave syria.
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All terrorists to leave syria. however, some question if
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However, some question if al-shara, a former al qaida
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Al-shara, a former al qaida commander, can be trusted he
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Commander, can be trusted he don't change his pick may be a
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Don't change his pick may be a moderate.
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Moderate. but in particular he is fact he
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But in particular he is fact he is a radical sunni iman.
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Is a radical sunni iman. i to two people this radical
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I to two people this radical group.
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Group. they say it now it will make
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They say it now it will make our country islamic republic.
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Our country islamic republic. >> zito says minorities in
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>> zito says minorities in syria are fearful of the new
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Syria are fearful of the new government.
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Government. >> we need protection.
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>> we need protection. all these countries supported
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All these countries supported radical islam radical sunni
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Radical islam radical sunni groups in syria.
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Groups in syria. we are in fear they have to
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We are in fear they have to help us to protect us.
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Help us to protect us. >> for radical islam.
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>> for radical islam. chris mitchell, cbn news.
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Chris mitchell, cbn news. well i hope in our foreign
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Well i hope in our foreign policy we recognize the
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Policy we recognize the ideology that we're dealing
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Ideology that we're dealing with that's both a political
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With that's both a political expression of religion hamas
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Expression of religion hamas and hezbollah.
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And hezbollah. we have to look at them not as
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We have to look at them not as terror groups.
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Terror groups. they are political parties.
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They are political parties. they aim for governmental
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They aim for governmental control and you look at that
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Control and you look at that ideology and you go if that's
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Ideology and you go if that's the ideology of the new
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The ideology of the new leadership of syria well,
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Leadership of syria well, that's really bad news for the
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That's really bad news for the region.
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Region. that's that's something that is
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That's that's something that is going to be in our it certainly
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Going to be in our it certainly isn't going to be in israel's
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Isn't going to be in israel's interest and it certainly isn't
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Interest and it certainly isn't in the interest of peace in the
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In the interest of peace in the middle east.
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Middle east. the roots of the new government
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The roots of the new government of syria go all the way back to
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Of syria go all the way back to isis and if you recall what did
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Isis and if you recall what did in northern iraq when they had
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In northern iraq when they had control political of that
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Control political of that entire region well, they
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Entire region well, they crucified christians in the
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Crucified christians in the public square they persecute
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Public square they persecute religious minorities
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Religious minorities horrifically and if you are a
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Horrifically and if you are a non-muslim woman that meant you
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Non-muslim woman that meant you were now their sex slave.
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Were now their sex slave. these are horrific things that
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These are horrific things that they do and i do hope and i
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They do and i do hope and i trust that there's wisdom
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Trust that there's wisdom behind these moves and they
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Behind these moves and they really understand what they're
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Really understand what they're dealing with.
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Dealing with. >> in other news world is still
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>> in other news world is still waiting to hear if vladimir
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Waiting to hear if vladimir putin will go to istanbul for
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Putin will go to istanbul for peace talks tomorrow.
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Peace talks tomorrow. john jessup has more on that
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John jessup has more on that story, our cbn news bureau in
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Story, our cbn news bureau in washington.
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Washington. >> john thanks gordon.
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>> john thanks gordon. us and ukrainian officials are
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Us and ukrainian officials are set to travel to turkey for the
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Set to travel to turkey for the high stakes meeting with
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High stakes meeting with russia.
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Russia. vladimir putin called the
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Vladimir putin called the summit and ukraine's president
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Summit and ukraine's president zelensky said he'll meet him
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Zelensky said he'll meet him there.
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There. >> however it's still unclear
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>> however it's still unclear if putin intends to go.
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If putin intends to go. cbn's george thomas has more
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Cbn's george thomas has more from istanbul.
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From istanbul. >> security is heightened
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>> security is heightened across istanbul and along the
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Across istanbul and along the bosphorus as the city prepares
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Bosphorus as the city prepares for a potential high stakes
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For a potential high stakes meeting putin and zelensky.
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Meeting putin and zelensky. cbs news spoke with russian
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Cbs news spoke with russian tourists vladislav and katya
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Tourists vladislav and katya who are visiting the city and
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Who are visiting the city and hoping their president will
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Hoping their president will finally give peace a chance.
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Finally give peace a chance. >> i think this is a great
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>> i think this is a great chance for our country to
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Chance for our country to resolve this issue once and for
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Resolve this issue once and for all so that it has a good
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All so that it has a good outcome and we can stop this
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Outcome and we can stop this conflict.
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Conflict. >> some turkish citizens also
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>> some turkish citizens also urged president putin to meet
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Urged president putin to meet with the ukrainian leader.
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With the ukrainian leader. >> i'm sure ukraine is worried
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>> i'm sure ukraine is worried about what peace will look like
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About what peace will look like but that's a better option than
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But that's a better option than war.
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War. welcome putin coming to my
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Welcome putin coming to my country and meeting with
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Country and meeting with zelensky.
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Zelensky. a peace agreement would benefit
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A peace agreement would benefit all parties involved.
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All parties involved. >> putin the direct
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>> putin the direct negotiations in turkey and
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Negotiations in turkey and zelensky said he would meet him
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Zelensky said he would meet him there.
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There. so far the russians have not
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So far the russians have not announced who they sending and
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Announced who they sending and zelensky has said he will only
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Zelensky has said he will only meet with putin.
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Meet with putin. >> i believe that if putin does
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>> i believe that if putin does not arrive and play games it is
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Not arrive and play games it is the final point that he does
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The final point that he does not want to end the war.
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Not want to end the war. >> if putin shows up here in
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>> if putin shows up here in istanbul it would be a very big
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Istanbul it would be a very big .
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. he has made it very clear he
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He has made it very clear he dislikes zelensky has even
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Dislikes zelensky has even questioned whether he's a
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Questioned whether he's a legitimate president.
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Legitimate president. the last time these two men met
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The last time these two men met was back 2019.
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Was back 2019. this would be the first face to
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This would be the first face to face meeting since russia
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Face meeting since russia invaded ukraine over three
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Invaded ukraine over three years ago.
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Years ago. turkish president erdogan who
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Turkish president erdogan who has agreed to host the talks
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Has agreed to host the talks says efforts to end the war
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Says efforts to end the war have reached a turning point as
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Have reached a turning point as the only country that has
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The only country that has gained the trust of all parties
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Gained the trust of all parties .
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. we have reiterated that we are
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We have reiterated that we are ready to contribute to these
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Ready to contribute to these talks and that we will be happy
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Talks and that we will be happy to host them.
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To host them. we see that a new window of has
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We see that a new window of has emerged with the recent
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Emerged with the recent developments.
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Developments. >> meanwhile president trump
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>> meanwhile president trump currently on a four day middle
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Currently on a four day middle east tour floated the idea of
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East tour floated the idea of diverting to istanbul.
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Diverting to istanbul. if i thought would be helpful i
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If i thought would be helpful i don't know where i'm going to
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Don't know where i'm going to be at that particular point.
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Be at that particular point. i'll be someplace in the middle
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I'll be someplace in the middle east but i would fly there if i
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East but i would fly there if i thought it would be helpful.
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Thought it would be helpful. trump speaking in saudi arabia,
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Trump speaking in saudi arabia, announced that secretary of
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Announced that secretary of state marco rubio will attend
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State marco rubio will attend thursday's talks.
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Thursday's talks. the u.s. and european allies
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The u.s. and european allies have ramped up efforts to end
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Have ramped up efforts to end the war which has already
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The war which has already claimed tens of thousands of
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Claimed tens of thousands of lives.
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Lives. whether the meeting happens or
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Whether the meeting happens or not, the world is watching the
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Not, the world is watching the next steps toward peace may
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Next steps toward peace may well be decided here in turkey.
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Well be decided here in turkey. george thomas, cbs news,
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George thomas, cbs news, istanbul.
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Istanbul. >> all right, thank you, george
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>> all right, thank you, george will here at home.
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Will here at home. the supreme court is set to
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The supreme court is set to take on a major case tomorrow.
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Take on a major case tomorrow. it could redefine the limits of
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It could redefine the limits of judicial power.
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Judicial power. the policy in question involves
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The policy in question involves birthright but the heart of the
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Birthright but the heart of the case is whether a federal judge
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Case is whether a federal judge has the authority to block a
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Has the authority to block a president's executive orders.
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President's executive orders. cbn's brody carter explains how
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Cbn's brody carter explains how the court's ruling could
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The court's ruling could reshape presidential powers for
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Reshape presidential powers for years to come.
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Years to come. >> people that come into our
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>> people that come into our country and they walk in and
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Country and they walk in and all of a sudden they become
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All of a sudden they become citizens and they pay a lot of
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Citizens and they pay a lot of money to different cartels and
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Money to different cartels and others.
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Others. >> in early 2025 president
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>> in early 2025 president trump signed an executive order
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Trump signed an executive order aimed at ending birthright
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Aimed at ending birthright citizenship for children born
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Citizenship for children born in the u.s. to non-citizen
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In the u.s. to non-citizen parents.
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Parents. in response, washington state's
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In response, washington state's attorney general and three
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Attorney general and three other states sued the trump
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Other states sued the trump administration.
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Administration. >> we do not a king.
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>> we do not a king. we have a president who must
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We have a president who must abide by the laws and if they
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Abide by the laws and if they want to amend the constitution
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Want to amend the constitution there is a process by which to
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There is a process by which to do.
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Do. >> and at least four federal
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>> and at least four federal judges blocked the president's
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Judges blocked the president's order issuing preliminary
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Order issuing preliminary injunctions that put the move
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Injunctions that put the move on hold while legal challenges
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On hold while legal challenges out.
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Out. but the supreme court isn't
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But the supreme court isn't weighing in on the policy of
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Weighing in on the policy of birthright itself at least not
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Birthright itself at least not yet.
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Yet. instead, the president's
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Instead, the president's lawyers have asked the justices
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Lawyers have asked the justices to decide whether an individual
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To decide whether an individual judge should have the power to
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Judge should have the power to freeze a federal policy
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Freeze a federal policy nationwide a decision that
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Nationwide a decision that could redefine the balance
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Could redefine the balance between executive branch and
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Between executive branch and the judiciary.
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The judiciary. sometimes you do want
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Sometimes you do want nationwide injunctions.
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Nationwide injunctions. for example, if there is an
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For example, if there is an immigration policy you can't
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Immigration policy you can't different standards being
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Different standards being applied depending on whether
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Applied depending on whether someone flies to jfk airport in
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Someone flies to jfk airport in new york versus lax in.
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New york versus lax in. but there have to be procedures
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But there have to be procedures in place so that the appeal to
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In place so that the appeal to the the federal circuit court
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The the federal circuit court up very quickly.
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Up very quickly. >> ilya shapiro, director of
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>> ilya shapiro, director of constitutional studies with the
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Constitutional studies with the manhattan institute, says the
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Manhattan institute, says the case could redefine how
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Case could redefine how national policies are
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National policies are challenged in courts and how
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Challenged in courts and how much power a single judge
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Much power a single judge should have.
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Should have. >> people are saying now that
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>> people are saying now that the most powerful office in the
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The most powerful office in the federal government that of a
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Federal government that of a district judge justices
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District judge justices clarence thomas and neil
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Clarence thomas and neil gorsuch called nationwide
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Gorsuch called nationwide injunctions legally and
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Injunctions legally and historically dubious.
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Historically dubious. and while critics call it
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And while critics call it judicial overreach, mike fox
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Judicial overreach, mike fox with, the cato institute says
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With, the cato institute says this is exactly what the courts
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This is exactly what the courts are supposed do.
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Are supposed do. >> but you know, the idea that
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>> but you know, the idea that courts can't issue nationwide
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Courts can't issue nationwide is just ridiculous.
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Is just ridiculous. and if you're going to say that
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And if you're going to say that the ruling only be confined to
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The ruling only be confined to the parties or confined to a
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The parties or confined to a specific you're dramatically
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Specific you're dramatically increasing the amount of
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Increasing the amount of litigation but you're also, you
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Litigation but you're also, you know, making the you're making
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Know, making the you're making inconsistent across the board.
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Inconsistent across the board. i don't really see how that
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I don't really see how that benefits anyone.
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Benefits anyone. >> the end of the day the law
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>> the end of the day the law is the law.
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Is the law. paul larkin with the heritage
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Paul larkin with the heritage foundation disagrees saying
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Foundation disagrees saying federal judges exceed their
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Federal judges exceed their constitutional authority when
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Constitutional authority when one district court can halt
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One district court can halt national policy.
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National policy. he questions a single judge
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He questions a single judge should hold that much power and
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Should hold that much power and says this case mark a turning
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Says this case mark a turning point and rebalancing the
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Point and rebalancing the branches of government.
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Branches of government. >> yes, a nationwide injunction
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>> yes, a nationwide injunction issued by one judge has the
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Issued by one judge has the benefit of trying to resolve an
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Benefit of trying to resolve an issue quickly.
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Issue quickly. but that short run benefit is
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But that short run benefit is greatly by the long run benefit
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Greatly by the long run benefit of making sure we get it done
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Of making sure we get it done not quickly but correctly or to
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Not quickly but correctly or to the best of our ability.
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The best of our ability. >> as justices hear oral
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>> as justices hear oral arguments.
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Arguments. legal experts are watching see
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Legal experts are watching see if the court draws new limits
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If the court draws new limits on nationwide injunctions or
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On nationwide injunctions or stand by them as a check on
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Stand by them as a check on executive power.
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Executive power. i'm brody carter, cbn news.
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I'm brody carter, cbn news. >> a pivotal case indeed
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>> a pivotal case indeed gordon.
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Gordon. it is an important case and i
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It is an important case and i side on limiting the power
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Side on limiting the power one district federal judge
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One district federal judge we've already seen it we saw in
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We've already seen it we saw in the first trump administration
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The first trump administration where was forum shopping and so
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Where was forum shopping and so let's go to a district court
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Let's go to a district court where we know we can get a
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Where we know we can get a favorable ruling based on the
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Favorable ruling based on the ideology of the judge.
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Ideology of the judge. these are political
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These are political appointments and so political
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Appointments and so political parties in power select that
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Parties in power select that district judge.
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District judge. and so if you're trying to stop
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And so if you're trying to stop an administration doing an
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An administration doing an executive order, you go to a
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Executive order, you go to a district judge who was
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District judge who was appointed by a different party
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Appointed by a different party and plead your case and then if
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And plead your case and then if he can issue a nationwide which
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He can issue a nationwide which happened in the first trump
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Happened in the first trump administration a us district
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Administration a us district judge in hawaii is in the
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Judge in hawaii is in the administration on immigration
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Administration on immigration policy.
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Policy. >> not just nationwide but
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>> not just nationwide but worldwide and where where is
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Worldwide and where where is democracy in that if people are
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Democracy in that if people are electing candidates who are
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Electing candidates who are making specific of what they're
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Making specific of what they're going to do when they're in
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Going to do when they're in office and that promise well, i
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Office and that promise well, i can't really keep it because a
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Can't really keep it because a u.s. district judge won't let
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U.s. district judge won't let me.
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Me. doesn't really make sense.
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Doesn't really make sense. so i hope the supreme court
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So i hope the supreme court limits it but there needs to be
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Limits it but there needs to be a way to sort of fast these
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A way to sort of fast these cases.
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Cases. so instead of requiring people
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So instead of requiring people to file in every single
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To file in every single district can they can they have
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District can they can they have a fast track so that the
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A fast track so that the supreme or the circuit court
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Supreme or the circuit court has the ability to rule on the
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Has the ability to rule on the law so that we can all move
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Law so that we can all move forward?
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Forward? >> here's the strategy and it's
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>> here's the strategy and it's very interesting strategy.
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Very interesting strategy. you you file in a favorable
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You you file in a favorable district district you get a
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District district you get a favorable ruling, you get an
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Favorable ruling, you get an injunction limiting the power
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Injunction limiting the power of the executive to do anything
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Of the executive to do anything and then you know it's going to
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And then you know it's going to years for an appeal to finally
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Years for an appeal to finally get to the court and in that
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Get to the court and in that time there's only four years in
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Time there's only four years in a presidency in that time.
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A presidency in that time. you're going to limit their
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You're going to limit their power and their authority.
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Power and their authority. they're not going to be able to
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They're not going to be able to do what they promised the
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Do what they promised the electorate when they came into
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Electorate when they came into office.
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Office. in my view shouldn't happen in
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In my view shouldn't happen in our republic.
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Our republic. the executive should have power
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The executive should have power to act on the promises that
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To act on the promises that they make when they're being
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They make when they're being elected if certain things
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Elected if certain things deemed to be unconstitutional
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Deemed to be unconstitutional how can you then fast track to
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How can you then fast track to the supreme court to say have
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The supreme court to say have that rule ruling and that is in
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That rule ruling and that is in accordance with the checks and
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Accordance with the checks and balances by the framers?
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Balances by the framers? >> but an individual judge i
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>> but an individual judge i don't think they ever
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Don't think they ever envisioned it that way.
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Envisioned it that way. we'll see my view.
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We'll see my view. this is a very important case,
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This is a very important case, ashleigh.
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Ashleigh. >> well, coming up, award
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>> well, coming up, award winning investigative
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Winning investigative journalist lee strobel, this
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Journalist lee strobel, this former atheist turns his
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Former atheist turns his focused seeing the supernatural
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Focused seeing the supernatural what's real and what's not.
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What's real and what's not. find out when lee joins us live
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Find out when lee joins us live ahead on today's show.
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Ahead on today's show. and up next a new study on the
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And up next a new study on the abortion pill yields alarming.
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Abortion pill yields alarming. one in ten women who take it
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One in ten women who take it face serious sometimes fatal
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Face serious sometimes fatal side effects.
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Side effects. more details from cbn news when
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More details from cbn news when .
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. >> we come back.
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Why this husband held on to hope.
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Hope. >> whose report are you gonna
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>> whose report are you gonna believe and allow.
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Believe and allow. i said i choose to believe your
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I said i choose to believe your .
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. >> tomorrow on the 700 club
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>> tomorrow on the 700 club stay connected with cbn
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>> across our platforms lawmakers are pressuring the
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Lawmakers are pressuring the food and drug administration to
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Food and drug administration to examine safety questions the
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Examine safety questions the abortion pill.
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Abortion pill. a new study reveals women
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A new study reveals women taking it could face extreme
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Taking it could face extreme danger.
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Danger. the risk is much higher than
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The risk is much higher than previously reported.
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Previously reported. well, cbn hill correspondent
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Well, cbn hill correspondent michelle london brings us the
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Michelle london brings us the story before stone is
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Story before stone is responsible for more than 60%
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Responsible for more than 60% of u.s. abortions, republican
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Of u.s. abortions, republican senator josh hawley is calling
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Senator josh hawley is calling out new fda commissioner marty
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Out new fda commissioner marty macari for being slow take
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Macari for being slow take action against it because new
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Action against it because new information shows the rate of
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Information shows the rate of serious health risk is 22 times
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Serious health risk is 22 times greater than numbers reflected
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Greater than numbers reflected on mr. stone's fda approved
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On mr. stone's fda approved label.
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Label. >> i have no plans to take
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>> i have no plans to take action on an appropriate time.
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Action on an appropriate time. during that same interview,
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During that same interview, macari admits new data is
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Macari admits new data is coming that he hasn't studied.
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Coming that he hasn't studied. >> please don't don't don't
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>> please don't don't don't take this under any
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Take this under any circumstances that's policy
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Circumstances that's policy center study.
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Center study. >> it found more than one in
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>> it found more than one in ten patients who take
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Ten patients who take mifepristone risk severe
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Mifepristone risk severe sometimes fatal side effects
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Sometimes fatal side effects something like an infection
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Something like an infection could lead to sepsis.
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Could lead to sepsis. it could be hemorrhaging that
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It could be hemorrhaging that could require blood
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Could require blood transfusion.
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Transfusion. >> hall, the center's director
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>> hall, the center's director of data analysis, adds about
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Of data analysis, adds about half of the women who
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Half of the women who experience what's called an
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Experience what's called an adverse event will likely end
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Adverse event will likely end up in the e.r. or hospitalized
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Up in the e.r. or hospitalized overnight.
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Overnight. it's very risky for her in
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It's very risky for her in these situations to be to be
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These situations to be to be doing this without proper from
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Doing this without proper from a physician throughout the
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A physician throughout the process.
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Process. >> the extra attention paid to
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>> the extra attention paid to this report could be because of
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This report could be because of its huge database of health
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Its huge database of health insurance.
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Insurance. it includes nearly 900,000
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It includes nearly 900,000 prescribed abortions from 2017
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Prescribed abortions from 2017 to 2023.
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To 2023. that's a stark contrast to the
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That's a stark contrast to the fda approved label which relies
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Fda approved label which relies on data from about 31,000
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On data from about 31,000 claims showing less than point
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Claims showing less than point percent severe reactions
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Percent severe reactions compared to the nearly 11%
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Compared to the nearly 11% reported by the apc.
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Reported by the apc. >> i didn't expect to be that
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>> i didn't expect to be that we were going to find 22 times
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We were going to find 22 times as many serious adverse events
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As many serious adverse events as the fda did.
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As the fda did. >> is the fda failing to
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>> is the fda failing to protect women from significant
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Protect women from significant harms?
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Harms? yes, the fda has failed
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Yes, the fda has failed miserably in its responsibility
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Miserably in its responsibility to protect women from the risks
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To protect women from the risks of this pill.
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Of this pill. >> these numbers have members
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>> these numbers have members from both sides of capitol hill
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From both sides of capitol hill joining the center in the call
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Joining the center in the call for action.
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For action. >> we're asking the fda at a
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>> we're asking the fda at a minimum to reinstate the
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Minimum to reinstate the protocols that were in place
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Protocols that were in place when mifepristone was approved
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When mifepristone was approved in 2000 and to look at our data
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In 2000 and to look at our data very closely.
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Very closely. >> mifepristone is danco points
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>> mifepristone is danco points out that more than 5 million
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Out that more than 5 million u.s. women have taken the drug
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U.s. women have taken the drug since the clinton
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Since the clinton administration approved it
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Administration approved it almost 25 years ago.
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Almost 25 years ago. back then, however, patients to
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Back then, however, patients to take the two pill regimen from
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Take the two pill regimen from a doctor's office followed by
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A doctor's office followed by three check up appointments.
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Three check up appointments. safeguards hall says loosened
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Safeguards hall says loosened especially during the previous
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Especially during the previous obama and biden administrations
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Obama and biden administrations .
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. >> now it's actually possible
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>> now it's actually possible for women to go online or
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For women to go online or someone to go online on her
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Someone to go online on her behalf fill out a little
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Behalf fill out a little questionnaire basically
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Questionnaire basically claiming that she's healthy and
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Claiming that she's healthy and that her pregnancy is not too
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That her pregnancy is not too far along.
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Far along. >> get the pills sent to her in
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>> get the pills sent to her in the mail.
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The mail. hall and other critics
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Hall and other critics mifepristone should be removed
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Mifepristone should be removed from pharmacy shelves as
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From pharmacy shelves as lawmakers call for a full fda
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Lawmakers call for a full fda review of app study.
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Review of app study. our reached out to the fda
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Our reached out to the fda director for comment.
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Director for comment. his spokesperson referred me to
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His spokesperson referred me to macri's previous statement
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Macri's previous statement which reads in part there is an
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Which reads in part there is an ongoing set of data that is
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Ongoing set of data that is coming into the fda on
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Coming into the fda on mifepristone.
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Mifepristone. so if that data suggests
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So if that data suggests something or tells us that
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Something or tells us that there is a real signal we can't
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There is a real signal we can't promise we're going to act on
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Promise we're going to act on that data.
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That data. michelle london, cbn news,
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Michelle london, cbn news, washington.
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Washington. >> i don't what it means we
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>> i don't what it means we can't promise that we're not
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Can't promise that we're not going to what.
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Going to what. what in the world does that
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What in the world does that mean?
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Mean? can you be direct if you're
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Can you be direct if you're filing in a health insurance
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Filing in a health insurance database of all claims and it's
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Database of all claims and it's over 800,000 that 10% are
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Over 800,000 that 10% are suffering adverse effects?
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Suffering adverse effects? well then don't you have a duty
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Well then don't you have a duty to protect health of women and
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To protect health of women and go back to a process where it's
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Go back to a process where it's under doctor supervision.
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Under doctor supervision. that to me is a no.
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That to me is a no. >> if there's a 10% risk that
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>> if there's a 10% risk that you could develop, well that's
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You could develop, well that's life threatening and if we're
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Life threatening and if we're concerned about the health of
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Concerned about the health of women and we all ought to be
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Women and we all ought to be concerned about the health of
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Concerned about the health of women, then do your job.
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Women, then do your job. and as the fda look don't look
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And as the fda look don't look at the political or what
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At the political or what lobbying groups are now going
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Lobbying groups are now going attack you for making decisions
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Attack you for making decisions and you know, somehow you're
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And you know, somehow you're trying to deny women choice.
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Trying to deny women choice. what you're trying to do is
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What you're trying to do is protect their health and that's
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Protect their health and that's job and you should do it.
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Job and you should do it. >> well up, next angels,
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>> well up, next angels, demons, near-death experiences
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Demons, near-death experiences astounding miracles author lee
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Astounding miracles author lee strobel examines the evidence
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Strobel examines the evidence for the supernatural including
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For the supernatural including his personal story of an
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His personal story of an encounter with an angel.
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Encounter with an angel. lee joins us live in studio.
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Lee joins us live in studio. we come back so stay with us.
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Insurance company. call 885 1717 that's 885 1717.
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Call 885 1717 that's 885 1717. >> call now a survey says 75%
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>> call now a survey says 75% of people around world believe
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Of people around world believe in angels.
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In angels. out of one and one out of three
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Out of one and one out of three of them say they've had a
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Of them say they've had a personal encounter with an
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Personal encounter with an angel.
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Angel. and investigative reporter lee
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And investigative reporter lee strobel is one of those people
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Strobel is one of those people investigative journalist and
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Investigative journalist and best selling author of the case
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Best selling author of the case for christ.
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For christ. lee strobel is now shining a
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Lee strobel is now shining a light on the supernatural realm
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Light on the supernatural realm with his new book seeing
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With his new book seeing supernatural, lee carefully
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Supernatural, lee carefully examines the unseen world
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Examines the unseen world separating sensationalism from
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Separating sensationalism from biblical truths by grounding
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Biblical truths by grounding these phenomena in scripture.
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These phenomena in scripture. lee offers us much needed
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Lee offers us much needed clarity and discernment.
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Clarity and discernment. all right, well please welcome
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All right, well please welcome back to the 700 club lee
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Back to the 700 club lee strobel.
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Strobel. lee welcome back.
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Lee welcome back. we're so happy to have you it's
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We're so happy to have you it's always a pleasure.
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Always a pleasure. i appreciate that with you.
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I appreciate that with you. well, let's get right into.
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Well, let's get right into. obviously the interest in the
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Obviously the interest in the supernatural realm of things
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Supernatural realm of things has really increased.
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Has really increased. >> yes.
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>> yes. why do you think that is?
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Why do you think that is? you know, people have
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You know, people have curiosity.
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Curiosity. people are not christians will
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People are not christians will often get tied up in the
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Often get tied up in the paranormal.
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Paranormal. you know, some really wacky
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You know, some really wacky stuff out there.
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Stuff out there. and for christians think
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And for christians think they're curious about the
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They're curious about the supernatural.
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Supernatural. >> they're a little embarrassed
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>> they're a little embarrassed by it sometimes they're not
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By it sometimes they're not sure what really involves and
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Sure what really involves and so that curiosity leads them to
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So that curiosity leads them to ask some questions that i think
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Ask some questions that i think are worth answer.
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Are worth answer. >> yeah, definitely.
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>> yeah, definitely. well, let's start with angels.
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Well, let's start with angels. yeah i would obviously love for
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Yeah i would obviously love for you to share about it in the
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You to share about it in the book but can you share with us
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Book but can you share with us now your encounter an angelic
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Now your encounter an angelic being?
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Being? >> well this is a good example
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>> well this is a good example of being embarrassed because
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Of being embarrassed because was embarrassed when this
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Was embarrassed when this happened.
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Happened. i was about 12 years old and an
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I was about 12 years old and an angel appeared to me and it was
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Angel appeared to me and it was the most vivid vision i had as
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The most vivid vision i had as a child.
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A child. the only dream i rememberr from
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The only dream i rememberr from my childhood and the angel
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My childhood and the angel started extolling heaven how
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Started extolling heaven how wonderful heaven was.
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Wonderful heaven was. >> and i said to him casually i
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>> and i said to him casually i said i'm going there someday.
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Said i'm going there someday. >> and he looked at me, said
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>> and he looked at me, said how do you know?
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How do you know? wow so what do you mean how do
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Wow so what do you mean how do i know i'm a good kid?
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I know i'm a good kid? >> i don't pay my parents.
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>> i don't pay my parents. i get good grades in school.
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I get good grades in school. i'm trying to justify the good
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I'm trying to justify the good deeds that are going to get me
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Deeds that are going to get me into heaven.
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Into heaven. >> and he looked at me, said
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>> and he looked at me, said that doesn't matter.
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That doesn't matter. and had a chill go through my
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And had a chill go through my spine.
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Spine. >> i thought, well, how can
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>> i thought, well, how can that not matter?
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That not matter? and he said someday you'll
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And he said someday you'll understand.
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Understand. wow.
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Wow. well, i wrote it off.
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Well, i wrote it off. i thought it was a bad pizza or
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I thought it was a bad pizza or something.
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Something. i just got it and i became an
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I just got it and i became an atheist here.
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Atheist here. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. yeah.
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Yeah. but then 16 years later my wife
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But then 16 years later my wife brought me to church and i
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Brought me to church and i heard the gospel for the first
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Heard the gospel for the first time that i understood it and i
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Time that i understood it and i realized the angel was right
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Realized the angel was right that it isn't based on our good
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That it isn't based on our good deeds that open the doors of
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Deeds that open the doors of heaven it is a gift of god's
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Heaven it is a gift of god's grace.
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Grace. and so two things validated
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And so two things validated that experience for me.
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That experience for me. number one, the angel told me
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Number one, the angel told me something that day i didn't
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Something that day i didn't know which is it's not your
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Know which is it's not your good deeds to get you to heaven
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Good deeds to get you to heaven right?
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Right? and secondly he he gave a
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And secondly he he gave a prophecy says someday you'll
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Prophecy says someday you'll understand and sure enough 12
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Understand and sure enough 12 years later or 16 years
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Years later or 16 years whatever was later i
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Whatever was later i understood.
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Understood. so those two things tell me
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So those two things tell me this is more than just a a
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This is more than just a a product of my imagination.
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Product of my imagination. >> yeah, it's really cool to
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>> yeah, it's really cool to hear you that because i feel
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Hear you that because i feel like that's just the lord the
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Like that's just the lord the lord's hand has been over you
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Lord's hand has been over you all of your it's really
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All of your it's really beautiful in ways that we don't
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Beautiful in ways that we don't even realize, you know?
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Even realize, you know? >> absolutely.
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>> absolutely. well obviously there are so
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Well obviously there are so many misconceptions about.
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Many misconceptions about. >> oh yeah.
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>> oh yeah. can you just name a few?
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Can you just name a few? oh, sure.
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Oh, sure. people think that they are
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People think that they are everywhere that they're well
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Everywhere that they're well they don't their spirit beings
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They don't their spirit beings are created by god.
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Are created by god. they don't reproduce.
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They don't reproduce. they don't marry.
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They don't marry. yeah they don't get old their
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Yeah they don't get old their spirit.
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Spirit. >> yeah they're very strong.
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>> yeah they're very strong. we know that an angel flicked
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We know that an angel flicked away the stone at the tomb of
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Away the stone at the tomb of jesus and it probably weighed
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Jesus and it probably weighed four tons.
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Four tons. so that's quite something.
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So that's quite something. and many scholars believe we
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And many scholars believe we have a guardian angel and this
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Have a guardian angel and this is based on two passages one in
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Is based on two passages one in which jesus says to about some
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Which jesus says to about some little children don't despise
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Little children don't despise these little ones because
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These little ones because they're angels see the face of
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They're angels see the face of god day in heaven.
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God day in heaven. well who are their angels?
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Well who are their angels? and then when peter from prison
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And then when peter from prison in the book of acts he goes to
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In the book of acts he goes to a house to meet some
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A house to meet some christians.
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Christians. he knocks on the door and the
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He knocks on the door and the servants says hey, peter's here
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Servants says hey, peter's here and they don't believe him
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And they don't believe him because he's in jail right.
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Because he's in jail right. >> yeah, well, they can't be.
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>> yeah, well, they can't be. peter must be his angel.
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Peter must be his angel. so based on those two passages,
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So based on those two passages, there are a lot of christians
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There are a lot of christians who believe that god has
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Who believe that god has assigned guardian angels to
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Assigned guardian angels to each individual christian and
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Each individual christian and it may very well be true.
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It may very well be true. >> yeah.
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>> yeah. yeah, that's incredible.
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Yeah, that's incredible. i love talking about this and i
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I love talking about this and i think another misconception too
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Think another misconception too when you talk about in the book
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When you talk about in the book as well which isn't necessarily
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As well which isn't necessarily biblical is when die they
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Biblical is when die they become angels.
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Become angels. >> people think they become an
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>> people think they become an angel when they die.
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Angel when they die. that's just not true.
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That's just not true. i mean there were two different
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I mean there were two different beings.
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Beings. yeah.
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Yeah. the angelic beings are created
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The angelic beings are created separately by god and human
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Separately by god and human beings are created separately
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Beings are created separately so everyone does not become the
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So everyone does not become the other.
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Other. >> yeah, well, you obviously
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>> yeah, well, you obviously talk a lot about healing
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Talk a lot about healing miracles and we are right here
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Miracles and we are right here on the 700 club.
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On the 700 club. >> we believe in healing
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>> we believe in healing miracles.
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Miracles. we see them all the.
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We see them all the. >> yes.
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>> yes. what are some of the things
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What are some of the things that maybe some that you
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That maybe some that you explain in the book about
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Explain in the book about modern day miracles?
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Modern day miracles? >> i look at cases have been
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>> i look at cases have been published in peer reviewed
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Published in peer reviewed medical journals as case
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Medical journals as case studies where there's multiple
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Studies where there's multiple eyewitnesses with no reason to
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Eyewitnesses with no reason to deceive where we have medical
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Deceive where we have medical records and so forth and it
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Records and so forth and it occurs in an environment of
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Occurs in an environment of prayer.
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Prayer. so for instance a case in a
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So for instance a case in a peer reviewed medical journal
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Peer reviewed medical journal of a woman who is for a dozen
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Of a woman who is for a dozen years with an incurable
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Years with an incurable condition.
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Condition. she went to a for the blind.
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She went to a for the blind. she learned to read braille.
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She learned to read braille. she walked with a white cane
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She walked with a white cane and she married a baptist
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And she married a baptist pastor.
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Pastor. one night they're getting ready
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One night they're getting ready to go to bed.
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To go to bed. >> she's in bed.
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>> she's in bed. he comes up and he begins to
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He comes up and he begins to cry and he puts his hand on her
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Cry and he puts his hand on her shoulder and begins to praise
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Shoulder and begins to praise the lord know you can heal my
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The lord know you can heal my wife.
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Wife. >> i know you can do it and
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>> i know you can do it and lord, i pray you do it tonight
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Lord, i pray you do it tonight .
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. >> and with that she opened her
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>> and with that she opened her eyes a perfect vision.
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Eyes a perfect vision. oh my god.
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Oh my god. and vision has remained now for
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And vision has remained now for over 47 years.
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Over 47 years. >> that's now that case has
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>> that's now that case has been documented by medical
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Been documented by medical researcher multiple researchers
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Researcher multiple researchers published as a case study in a
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Published as a case study in a peer reviewed medical journal.
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Peer reviewed medical journal. it credible, she said i was
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It credible, she said i was blind when my husband prayed
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Blind when my husband prayed for me.
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For me. i open my eyes and i can see
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I open my eyes and i can see perfectly.
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Perfectly. >> oh my god.
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>> oh my god. what do you do with it?
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What do you do with it? the only way you can deny.
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The only way you can deny. that's a miracle of god if you
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That's a miracle of god if you rule out that from the
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Rule out that from the beginning it's a miracle turned
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Beginning it's a miracle turned possible.
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Possible. now bring on the evidence.
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Now bring on the evidence. right.
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Right. well, that's not the way you do
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Well, that's not the way you do investigations.
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Investigations. you look at where does the
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You look at where does the evidence point.
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Evidence point. and it points powerfully and
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And it points powerfully and persuasive if only toward the
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Persuasive if only toward the fact that god is still in the
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Fact that god is still in the miracle business today.
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Miracle business today. >> yes.
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>> yes. >> amen.
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>> amen. i know our audience is saying
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I know our audience is saying amen as well.
00:28:54.841 --> 00:28:55.141
Amen as well. well, you talk about deathbed
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Well, you talk about deathbed vision.
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Vision. yes.
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Yes. and near-death experiences.
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And near-death experiences. what is the difference between
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What is the difference between the two?
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The two? >> in a deathbed vision a
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>> in a deathbed vision a person is about to die and they
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Person is about to die and they get a vision of what is to come
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Get a vision of what is to come the realm to come and we see in
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The realm to come and we see in steven in the book of acts he's
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Steven in the book of acts he's about to be to death.
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About to be to death. he sees the heavens open up and
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He sees the heavens open up and he sees a father in the sun.
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He sees a father in the sun. >> a near-death experience a
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>> a near-death experience a person who is clinically
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Person who is clinically dead they may have no
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Dead they may have no heartbeat, no brain waves, no
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Heartbeat, no brain waves, no respiration.
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Respiration. >> they're clinically dead but
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>> they're clinically dead but they're going to be revived.
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They're going to be revived. and so at some point and so you
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And so at some point and so you get to interview them and you
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Get to interview them and you can find out what happened
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Can find out what happened during that time and what we
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During that time and what we find in those cases are people
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Find in those cases are people who see things and hear things
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Who see things and hear things when their spirit has been
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When their spirit has been separated from their body that
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Separated from their body that they couldn't have seen or
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They couldn't have seen or heard unless.
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Heard unless. they had an actual out-of-body
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They had an actual out-of-body experience.
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Experience. and so we have the case of a
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And so we have the case of a woman who was dying in a
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Woman who was dying in a hospital in england and and she
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Hospital in england and and she said i was conscious the whole
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Said i was conscious the whole time.
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Time. and she said my spirits
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And she said my spirits separated my body.
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Separated my body. i'm watching the resuscitation
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I'm watching the resuscitation efforts on my body from the
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Efforts on my body from the ceiling of the room and when
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Ceiling of the room and when she's revived and her spirit
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She's revived and her spirit returns to her body, she says
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Returns to her body, she says by the way, there's a ceiling
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By the way, there's a ceiling fan here in the hospital room
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Fan here in the hospital room on one of the top of the blades
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On one of the top of the blades is a red sticker couldn't see
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Is a red sticker couldn't see it from the room because it's
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It from the room because it's on the top of a blade.
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On the top of a blade. >> she it in great detail.
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>> she it in great detail. they get a ladder, they go up,
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They get a ladder, they go up, they see it exactly as she
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They see it exactly as she described it.
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Described it. >> the only way she would know
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>> the only way she would know that is if she was telling the
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That is if she was telling the truth that her spirits
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Truth that her spirits separated from her body and she
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Separated from her body and she had a perspective from the
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Had a perspective from the ceiling of the room looking
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Ceiling of the room looking down on body being
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Down on body being resuscitated.
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Resuscitated. >> that is so powerful and i
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>> that is so powerful and i know we've had we have a lot of
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Know we've had we have a lot of testimonies stories of people
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Testimonies stories of people who have gone to heaven and
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Who have gone to heaven and even to and have come back to
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Even to and have come back to describe what they've seen.
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Describe what they've seen. you also talk about the
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You also talk about the opposite of i mean there's two
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Opposite of i mean there's two sides to the supernatural,
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Sides to the supernatural, right?
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Right? we have the heavenly realm.
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We have the heavenly realm. yes the godly realm and then we
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Yes the godly realm and then we have the demonic right as
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Have the demonic right as believers yes.
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Believers yes. >> how can we differentiate
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>> how can we differentiate between the two?
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Between the two? i think the first thing we need
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I think the first thing we need to do is understand that our
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To do is understand that our study of scripture is critical.
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Study of scripture is critical. we need to understand the bible
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We need to understand the bible where the bible tells us to
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Where the bible tells us to versus stay away from psychics
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Versus stay away from psychics and mediums.
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And mediums. we ought to do it.
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We ought to do it. come on.
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Come on. yeah.
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Yeah. listen listen to that.
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Listen listen to that. yeah.
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Yeah. yeah.
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Yeah. and so that helps us discern
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And so that helps us discern what is real and what isn't and
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What is real and what isn't and to be able to question where is
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To be able to question where is this information coming from?
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This information coming from? is this consistent with the
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Is this consistent with the bible is inconsistent with
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Bible is inconsistent with christian teaching and so
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Christian teaching and so forth.
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Forth. i have a section in my book
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I have a section in my book helps people discern these
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Helps people discern these sorts of things because there's
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Sorts of things because there's a lot of demonic counterfeits
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A lot of demonic counterfeits going on especially when we
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Going on especially when we look at ghosts which.
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Look at ghosts which. you know the definition of a
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You know the definition of a ghost is a spirit who a person
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Ghost is a spirit who a person who dies but their refuses to
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Who dies but their refuses to go into the next life.
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Go into the next life. >> wow.
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>> wow. i don't see that in the bible
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I don't see that in the bible and so i think a lot of these
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And so i think a lot of these so-called ghostly apparitions
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So-called ghostly apparitions are really demonic counterfeits
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Are really demonic counterfeits and.
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And. >> we have to be very careful
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>> we have to be very careful of those.
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Of those. yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely. oh my goodness.
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Oh my goodness. we could keep talking hours but
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We could keep talking hours but we got to let you go.
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We got to let you go. but thank you so much for this
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But thank you so much for this book.
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Book. i know it's going to help not
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I know it's going to help not just believers but people who
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Just believers but people who are on the fence about too.
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Are on the fence about too. i pray and i know it's going to
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I pray and i know it's going to lead them into christ.
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Lead them into christ. so thank you for everything
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So thank you for everything that.
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That. >> you continue to do.
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>> you continue to do. it's a joy.
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It's a joy. thank you.
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Thank you. thank you.
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Thank you. all right.
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All right. everyone will at least
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Everyone will at least troubles.
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Troubles. latest book is called seeing
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Latest book is called seeing the supernatural and it's
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Available nationwide. >> highly recommended.
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>> highly recommended. gordon, over to you.
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Gordon, over to you. well, still ahead, 42 years old
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Well, still ahead, 42 years old and diagnosed with aggressive
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And diagnosed with aggressive of cancer.
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Of cancer. this woman said she felt the
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This woman said she felt the grim reaper was standing at the
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Grim reaper was standing at the foot of her bed.
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Foot of her bed. watch how she cheated death.
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Watch how she cheated death. that's coming up.
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That's coming up. the national ashley, i will be
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The national ashley, i will be praying for you.
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Praying for you. that's later on today.
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That's later on today. 700 club i got out of my patrol
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700 club i got out of my patrol and i slip.
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And i slip. >> are miracles real?
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>> are miracles real? do they happen today?
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Do they happen today? >> let's investigate.
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>> let's investigate. >> this movie is life changing.
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>> this movie is life changing. it's encouraging thought.
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It's encouraging thought. >> provoking stories are
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>> provoking stories are extraordinary.
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Extraordinary. people would pray for me and
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People would pray for me and this power that just zapped me.
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This power that just zapped me. >> well, i think everyone
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>> well, i think everyone should see this movie
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Should see this movie investigating the supernatural
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Investigating the supernatural miracles.
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>> to learn more call today or go to gentle cure.
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Go to gentle cure. >> welcome to washington for
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>> welcome to washington for the cbn newsbreak floods, fires
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The cbn newsbreak floods, fires and unusually high temperatures
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And unusually high temperatures are hitting parts of the
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Are hitting parts of the country.
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Country. americans in the southeast
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Americans in the southeast being urged to seek higher
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Being urged to seek higher ground after nearly a foot of
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Ground after nearly a foot of rain triggered flash flood
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Rain triggered flash flood emergencies and ongoing
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Emergencies and ongoing evacuations in parts of
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Evacuations in parts of maryland.
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Maryland. flood watches are in effect
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Flood watches are in effect across pennsylvania, virginia
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Across pennsylvania, virginia and washington d.c. with parts
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And washington d.c. with parts of north carolina expected to
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Of north carolina expected to see up to five inches of rain
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See up to five inches of rain throughout the day and as
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Throughout the day and as severe weather lingers
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Severe weather lingers throughout the week.
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Throughout the week. heavy wildfires are sweeping
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Heavy wildfires are sweeping through plains and southwest
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Through plains and southwest and we've lost about 40 plus
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And we've lost about 40 plus structures homes, cabins,
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Structures homes, cabins, intense heat and dry winds have
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Intense heat and dry winds have fueled large wildfires north of
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Fueled large wildfires north of duluth.
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Duluth. fires are also burning in
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Fires are also burning in albuquerque and parts of
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Albuquerque and parts of arizona while heat records for
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Arizona while heat records for the month of may are falling in
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The month of may are falling in some areas northern hit 96
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Some areas northern hit 96 degrees on mother's day.
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Degrees on mother's day. it's the hottest since hottest
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It's the hottest since hottest hottest may high rather since
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Hottest may high rather since 1964.
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1964. in texas, san antonio just long
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In texas, san antonio just long three straight days of over 100
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Three straight days of over 100 degrees in austin could hit
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Degrees in austin could hit hundred and seven today.
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Hundred and seven today. well, now to the economy and
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Well, now to the economy and some good news for consumers.
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Some good news for consumers. the cost of a household staple
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The cost of a household staple is coming down.
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Is coming down. egg prices have dropped to the
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Egg prices have dropped to the lowest point since october 2020
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Lowest point since october 2020 for according to the consumer
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For according to the consumer price index last month's
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Price index last month's average was about $5.12 a dozen
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Average was about $5.12 a dozen though that's more than twice
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Though that's more than twice more than twice as much the
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More than twice as much the same time last year.
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Same time last year. lower prices coming on
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Lower prices coming on news that inflation at its
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News that inflation at its level since 2021 at 2.3%.
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Level since 2021 at 2.3%. well, you can always get the
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Well, you can always get the latest from cbn news by going
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Latest from cbn news by going to our web site at cbsnews.com
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To our web site at cbsnews.com .
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. gordon and ashley will be back
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Gordon and ashley will be back with more of the 700 club right
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With more of the 700 club right after this.
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After this. tomorrow a massive bravely.
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Tomorrow a massive bravely. she was crying and she said i
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She was crying and she said i think i'm having a stroke.
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Think i'm having a stroke. doctors the worst.
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Doctors the worst. she had so many ivy sticking
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She had so many ivy sticking out of her.
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Out of her. i thought to myself that's not
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I thought to myself that's not my wife.
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My wife. why this husband held on to
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Why this husband held on to hope to report.
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Hope to report. are you going to believe and
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Are you going to believe and outloud i said i choose to
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Outloud i said i choose to believe your word tomorrow on
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Appointment. try our new nearly invisible
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One 800 388881 now will angel screams in pain whenever he
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Screams in pain whenever he stands up or has his diaper
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Stands up or has his diaper changed?
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Changed? he suffers from a rare birth
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He suffers from a rare birth and doctors say that without
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And doctors say that without surgery he won't be able to
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Surgery he won't be able to walk angels parents could never
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Walk angels parents could never afford to pay for the operation
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Afford to pay for the operation but thanks to you they don't
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But thanks to you they don't have to.
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Have to. >> 15 month old angel was born
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>> 15 month old angel was born with a tethered spinal.
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With a tethered spinal. >> his mom maria said it can be
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>> his mom maria said it can be quite painful.
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Quite painful. whenever he tried to stand up
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Whenever he tried to stand up he screamed in pain and he
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He screamed in pain and he cried when i moved as i changed
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Cried when i moved as i changed his diaper, doctors said the
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His diaper, doctors said the prognosis for recovery without
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Prognosis for recovery without surgery grim.
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Surgery grim. >> he told me that my child
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>> he told me that my child would not be able to walk.
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Would not be able to walk. as he gets older he said he
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As he gets older he said he would lose movement in his legs
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Would lose movement in his legs and arms and the ability to
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And arms and the ability to move around.
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Move around. >> angels dad marvin feared for
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>> angels dad marvin feared for the worse for his son.
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The worse for his son. i imagined him in a wheelchair.
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I imagined him in a wheelchair. i imagined the other children
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I imagined the other children playing and he could not.
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Playing and he could not. >> but paying for the expensive
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>> but paying for the expensive operation and to repair the
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Operation and to repair the condition was out of reach for
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Condition was out of reach for the young family.
00:36:34.513 --> 00:36:36.649
The young family. >> i remember at a clinic they
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>> i remember at a clinic they told us it would cost about
00:36:37.650 --> 00:36:40.987
Told us it would cost about $5,000.
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$5,000. >> my husband's work is not
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>> my husband's work is not enough to help my son.
00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:45.091
Enough to help my son. we can only afford rent and
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We can only afford rent and food.
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Food. >> we have no other income.
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>> we have no other income. then thanks to you, operation
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Then thanks to you, operation blessing paid for surgery
00:36:52.832 --> 00:36:55.401
Blessing paid for surgery repair angel's tethered spinal
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Repair angel's tethered spinal cord.
00:36:56.268 --> 00:36:56.435
Cord. the operation was successful
00:36:56.569 --> 00:37:00.106
The operation was successful and a short time later he was
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:00.940
And a short time later he was walking learning to run.
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Walking learning to run. >> i am very grateful to
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>> i am very grateful to operation and to all the staff
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Operation and to all the staff who helped our son.
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Who helped our son. thank you to the people who
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Thank you to the people who support operation blessing.
00:37:11.283 --> 00:37:11.817
Support operation blessing. >> i can hardly speak because
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>> i can hardly speak because of the emotion i am feeling.
00:37:14.587 --> 00:37:15.187
Of the emotion i am feeling. thank you.
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Thank you. >> this is what the gospel is
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>> this is what the gospel is all.
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All. the lord blesses us to be a
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The lord blesses us to be a blessing unto others.
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Blessing unto others. we are called to help those in
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We are called to help those in need to help the poor, to help
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Need to help the poor, to help disenfranchized because that is
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Disenfranchized because that is a way of of showing god's love
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A way of of showing god's love and cbn operation blessing
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And cbn operation blessing partners.
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Are doing that a portion of every gift given to you.
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Every gift given to you. cbn goes into the work of
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Cbn goes into the work of operation blessing and
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Provide life changing surgeries like you just saw in that
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Cancer patients doctor told her this is terminal and.
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This is terminal and. you will die from this.
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You will die from this. well you'll hear how a
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Well you'll hear how a conversation with jesus led to
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Conversation with jesus led to a miracle that's coming up.
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A miracle that's coming up. >> and then don't go away
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Praying for you right after that.
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And click give. >> her life flashed before her
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>> her life flashed before her eyes and she got a glimpse of
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Eyes and she got a glimpse of her own funeral.
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Her own funeral. terminal cancer stalked abigail
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Terminal cancer stalked abigail every waking moment you will
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Every waking moment you will die this her doctors said.
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Die this her doctors said. instead abigail is very alive
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Instead abigail is very alive and completely cancer free.
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And completely cancer free. i had those moments waking up
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I had those moments waking up just in a cold sweat knowing
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Just in a cold sweat knowing that the grim reaper was
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That the grim reaper was standing at the foot of my bed
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Standing at the foot of my bed like i have a right to be here.
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Like i have a right to be here. i took your data took a grandpa
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I took your data took a grandpa and never even knew my
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And never even knew my grandparents had it right.
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Grandparents had it right. i'm here to get you to all her
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I'm here to get you to all her life.
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Life. abigail holt jennings and brace
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Abigail holt jennings and brace yourself for this moment a
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Yourself for this moment a battle with cancer.
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Battle with cancer. she'd watched her dad fight it
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She'd watched her dad fight it for ten years until he passed
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For ten years until he passed away when.
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Away when. she was 16.
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She was 16. now 42 years old, she'd been
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Now 42 years old, she'd been diagnosed with an aggressive
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Diagnosed with an aggressive form of metastatic cancer.
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Form of metastatic cancer. i think the lord was preparing
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I think the lord was preparing me like you're about to enter a
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Me like you're about to enter a battle but i am with you.
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Battle but i am with you. >> less than a year she'd
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>> less than a year she'd undergone a double mastectomy
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Undergone a double mastectomy after learning she had stage
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After learning she had stage cancer.
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Cancer. she thought she was in the
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She thought she was in the clear.
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Clear. but six months later at a
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But six months later at a follow up pet scan with her
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Follow up pet scan with her oncologist he said this is what
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Oncologist he said this is what i feared.
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I feared. it's moving to your lungs and.
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It's moving to your lungs and. you see these places?
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You see these places? he's like these are places i
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He's like these are places i cannot get to.
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Cannot get to. this is this is terminal and
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This is this is terminal and you will die from this.
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You will die from this. >> the treatments he did offer
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>> the treatments he did offer were extreme and would only put
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Were extreme and would only put off the inevitable.
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Off the inevitable. that is when that grim reaper
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That is when that grim reaper could see i could feel that
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Could see i could feel that thing that spirit of death and
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Thing that spirit of death and that spirit of fear walk in the
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That spirit of fear walk in the room and then i felt wonderful.
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Room and then i felt wonderful. jesus walk in the room as well
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Jesus walk in the room as well .
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. and he said but who do you say
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And he said but who do you say that i am?
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That i am? and it was in that moment that
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And it was in that moment that something rose up inside of me
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Something rose up inside of me and i remember answering him in
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And i remember answering him in my mind this is going to be a
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My mind this is going to be a great line in my book one day.
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Great line in my book one day. in other words i know you're
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In other words i know you're going to heal me and i'm going
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Going to heal me and i'm going to write about one day.
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To write about one day. >> abigail declined the
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>> abigail declined the treatment and decided she would
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Treatment and decided she would fight cancer taking a natural
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Fight cancer taking a natural and dietary approach and above
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And dietary approach and above all praying and believing god
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All praying and believing god for healing as believers there
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For healing as believers there is a hope inside of us.
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Is a hope inside of us. and so now did i just walk
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And so now did i just walk around like you know i didn't
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Around like you know i didn't know how god was going to do it
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Know how god was going to do it but i knew my eyes were on him
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But i knew my eyes were on him enlisting the prayers of her
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Enlisting the prayers of her family and friends.
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Family and friends. abigail, a single mom of two,
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Abigail, a single mom of two, talked openly with her children
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Talked openly with her children about her health.
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About her health. and i remember my little girl
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And i remember my little girl lilly came up to me with a
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Lilly came up to me with a magazine and she opened the
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Magazine and she opened the magazine and she loved american
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Magazine and she loved american girl dolls.
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Girl dolls. they now have a an american
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They now have a an american girl doll with no hair.
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Girl doll with no hair. and she said, mom, maybe i need
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And she said, mom, maybe i need to get this one this year in
00:42:49.179 --> 00:42:52.516
To get this one this year in case you lose your hair.
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Case you lose your hair. and i said, honey, you will not
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And i said, honey, you will not have to order that doll because
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Have to order that doll because mommy is not losing her hair.
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Mommy is not losing her hair. three months later another pet
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Three months later another pet scan the cancer was spreading
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Scan the cancer was spreading aggressively in her lymph nodes
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Aggressively in her lymph nodes holding to hope was becoming
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Holding to hope was becoming harder.
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Harder. i simply had no options.
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I simply had no options. i was just getting more scared
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I was just getting more scared and more frustrated and would
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And more frustrated and would wake up with dreams seem like a
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Wake up with dreams seem like a movie screen.
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Movie screen. >> my funeral.
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>> my funeral. then a couple of months after
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Then a couple of months after getting that news, abigail went
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Getting that news, abigail went the dominican republic to visit
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The dominican republic to visit a friend, a doctor and time to
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A friend, a doctor and time to rest and see god.
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Rest and see god. abigail remembers showing her
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Abigail remembers showing her friend the pet scan results.
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Friend the pet scan results. the look on her face when she
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The look on her face when she read that last one and i had
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Read that last one and i had never seen her look like that.
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Never seen her look like that. that did rattle me.
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That did rattle me. all i know to do is see god
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All i know to do is see god with all my heart.
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With all my heart. that's all know to do.
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That's all know to do. >> she would spend many hours
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>> she would spend many hours that week in prayer seeking
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That week in prayer seeking god's will.
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God's will. >> late one night near the end
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>> late one night near the end of visit i got out there and i
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Of visit i got out there and i said god i need to know am i
00:43:56.680 --> 00:44:00.250
Said god i need to know am i going to die?
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Going to die? what do you have to say about
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What do you have to say about this?
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This? it was just me and god.
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It was just me and god. >> that is when i felt jesus
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>> that is when i felt jesus walk in, if you will.
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Walk in, if you will. >> and i felt presence.
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>> and i felt presence. he said abigail.
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He said abigail. i came have a conversation with
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I came have a conversation with you.
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You. >> i came to actually go on a
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>> i came to actually go on a walk.
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Walk. abigail says she then saw a
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Abigail says she then saw a vision of herself with jesus
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Vision of herself with jesus jerusalem.
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Jerusalem. he walked her past the cross
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He walked her past the cross and into the tomb where he lay
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And into the tomb where he lay down and he said watch this.
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Down and he said watch this. and he sat up and he said
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And he sat up and he said abigail, when i sat up you sat
00:44:34.218 --> 00:44:37.754
Abigail, when i sat up you sat up and then he walked to the
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Up and then he walked to the entrance of the tomb and i will
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Entrance of the tomb and i will never forget this as long as i
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Never forget this as long as i live.
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Live. he said when i out of the tomb
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He said when i out of the tomb did i have cancer in my lungs?
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Did i have cancer in my lungs? >> i said no jesus, you didn't.
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>> i said no jesus, you didn't. he said so do have to have
00:44:53.003 --> 00:44:55.906
He said so do have to have cancer in your lungs.
00:44:56.039 --> 00:44:56.507
Cancer in your lungs. said no jesus, i don't.
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Said no jesus, i don't. and in that moment i knew i am
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And in that moment i knew i am cancer free.
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Cancer free. a few weeks after she came
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A few weeks after she came home, abigail faced yet another
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Home, abigail faced yet another pet scan.
00:45:14.258 --> 00:45:14.491
Pet scan. she says that morning jesus
00:45:14.625 --> 00:45:15.192
She says that morning jesus spoke to her again.
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Spoke to her again. >> good morning.
00:45:18.629 --> 00:45:18.996
>> good morning. this is the glory scan i went i
00:45:19.129 --> 00:45:26.336
This is the glory scan i went i would met to.
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Would met to. you know i hate those things
00:45:26.904 --> 00:45:27.504
You know i hate those things and i just thank a fair not
00:45:27.638 --> 00:45:28.639
And i just thank a fair not nothing.
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Nothing. >> later that day nurse called
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>> later that day nurse called with a results and she goes
00:45:32.709 --> 00:45:33.243
With a results and she goes abigail.
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Abigail. >> i don't really know what to
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>> i don't really know what to say but i there's here.
00:45:36.513 --> 00:45:40.150
Say but i there's here. there's there's nothing here.
00:45:40.284 --> 00:45:40.884
There's there's nothing here. i know, i know and i at the
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I know, i know and i at the follow up appointment her
00:45:47.024 --> 00:45:47.524
Follow up appointment her oncologist that abigail was
00:45:47.658 --> 00:45:51.195
Oncologist that abigail was cancer free.
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Cancer free. >> he goes i don't my degree on
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>> he goes i don't my degree on my wall to see that this is a
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My wall to see that this is a miracle.
00:45:56.200 --> 00:45:59.203
Miracle. >> that was 2017 and abigail
00:45:59.336 --> 00:46:00.170
>> that was 2017 and abigail has cancer free ever since.
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Has cancer free ever since. to anyone who's fighting a
00:46:03.373 --> 00:46:04.074
To anyone who's fighting a battle her message is clear
00:46:04.208 --> 00:46:07.044
Battle her message is clear keep your eyes on jesus.
00:46:07.177 --> 00:46:07.711
Keep your eyes on jesus. >> he was trying to tell this
00:46:07.844 --> 00:46:10.280
>> he was trying to tell this doesn't have to do with you.
00:46:10.414 --> 00:46:11.048
Doesn't have to do with you. i care of sin at the cross.
00:46:11.181 --> 00:46:14.518
I care of sin at the cross. >> i took care of every disease
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>> i took care of every disease .
00:46:18.655 --> 00:46:18.755
. >> i took care of every
00:46:18.889 --> 00:46:19.389
>> i took care of every sickness.
00:46:19.523 --> 00:46:19.756
Sickness. he is entirely the healer.
00:46:19.890 --> 00:46:21.058
He is entirely the healer. >> entirely.
00:46:21.191 --> 00:46:25.295
>> entirely. ashley and i were talking is
00:46:25.429 --> 00:46:26.063
Ashley and i were talking is that peace is running and just
00:46:26.196 --> 00:46:28.832
That peace is running and just remind yourself it's not about
00:46:28.966 --> 00:46:29.566
Remind yourself it's not about you.
00:46:29.700 --> 00:46:29.833
You. it's what jesus did on the
00:46:29.967 --> 00:46:33.170
It's what jesus did on the cross.
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Cross. >> so if wondering do i have
00:46:33.604 --> 00:46:37.574
>> so if wondering do i have faith to believe for healing
00:46:37.708 --> 00:46:38.275
Faith to believe for healing can can i get a miracle can i
00:46:38.408 --> 00:46:41.078
Can can i get a miracle can i have this?
00:46:41.211 --> 00:46:41.445
Have this? here's here's a simple test for
00:46:41.578 --> 00:46:42.246
Here's here's a simple test for you do you believe that your
00:46:42.379 --> 00:46:44.648
You do you believe that your sins are forgiven?
00:46:44.781 --> 00:46:45.148
Sins are forgiven? do you believe that?
00:46:48.051 --> 00:46:48.652
Do you believe that? do you believe that you're
00:46:48.785 --> 00:46:51.388
Do you believe that you're going to heaven is that settled
00:46:51.521 --> 00:46:52.422
Going to heaven is that settled for you that you're saved?
00:46:52.556 --> 00:46:55.759
For you that you're saved? well, the same cross that
00:46:55.892 --> 00:46:58.862
Well, the same cross that forgave all your iniquities is
00:46:58.996 --> 00:47:02.733
Forgave all your iniquities is the same cross that heals all
00:47:02.866 --> 00:47:03.600
The same cross that heals all your diseases.
00:47:03.734 --> 00:47:06.637
Your diseases. it's by his stripes that we are
00:47:06.770 --> 00:47:10.407
It's by his stripes that we are healed.
00:47:10.540 --> 00:47:10.741
Healed. that we're we were healed and
00:47:10.874 --> 00:47:14.711
That we're we were healed and we are going to be healed for
00:47:14.845 --> 00:47:15.479
We are going to be healed for he is the same.
00:47:15.612 --> 00:47:15.946
He is the same. yes.
00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:18.148
Yes. today and forever he is the
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Today and forever he is the preeminent one.
00:47:22.452 --> 00:47:22.786
Preeminent one. the first born by him and
00:47:22.919 --> 00:47:25.522
The first born by him and through him all things were
00:47:25.656 --> 00:47:26.256
Through him all things were created.
00:47:26.390 --> 00:47:29.293
Created. >> you were created by him.
00:47:29.426 --> 00:47:30.060
>> you were created by him. you are saved by him.
00:47:30.193 --> 00:47:33.530
You are saved by him. you are healed by him.
00:47:33.664 --> 00:47:34.264
You are healed by him. you are provided for by him.
00:47:34.398 --> 00:47:37.167
You are provided for by him. all the hairs of your head are
00:47:37.301 --> 00:47:40.737
All the hairs of your head are numbered by him.
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Numbered by him. he cares very tenderly for you.
00:47:41.371 --> 00:47:44.441
He cares very tenderly for you. all you have to do is to walk
00:47:44.574 --> 00:47:47.944
All you have to do is to walk that when you get it how much
00:47:48.078 --> 00:47:52.215
That when you get it how much he loves you.
00:47:52.349 --> 00:47:52.649
He loves you. when you get well then miracles
00:47:52.783 --> 00:47:55.986
When you get well then miracles get very easy.
00:47:56.119 --> 00:47:59.756
Get very easy. when people tell me you must
00:47:59.890 --> 00:48:00.557
When people tell me you must have great faith i go i.
00:48:00.691 --> 00:48:03.727
Have great faith i go i. i know some great facts oh the
00:48:03.860 --> 00:48:04.795
I know some great facts oh the promised the one by whom and
00:48:04.928 --> 00:48:07.731
Promised the one by whom and through whom all things created
00:48:07.864 --> 00:48:10.901
Through whom all things created he came and he humbled himself
00:48:11.034 --> 00:48:14.905
He came and he humbled himself .
00:48:15.038 --> 00:48:15.138
. he was born in a stable.
00:48:15.272 --> 00:48:15.839
He was born in a stable. he lived a sinless life and he
00:48:15.972 --> 00:48:18.675
He lived a sinless life and he offered himself he offered his
00:48:18.809 --> 00:48:19.409
Offered himself he offered his soul as a sacrifice for myself
00:48:19.543 --> 00:48:23.280
Soul as a sacrifice for myself and then he didn't stop there.
00:48:23.413 --> 00:48:27.217
And then he didn't stop there. >> he rose again on the third
00:48:27.351 --> 00:48:29.252
>> he rose again on the third day he appeared to his
00:48:29.386 --> 00:48:29.886
Day he appeared to his disciples.
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Disciples. he appeared to 500.
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He appeared to 500. >> he ascended to heaven.
00:48:32.689 --> 00:48:33.256
>> he ascended to heaven. what's he doing right now?
00:48:33.390 --> 00:48:36.393
What's he doing right now? >> well, he's at the right hand
00:48:36.526 --> 00:48:37.260
>> well, he's at the right hand of the father and he's praying
00:48:37.394 --> 00:48:37.994
Of the father and he's praying for me.
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For me. >> he's praying for you.
00:48:39.763 --> 00:48:40.397
>> he's praying for you. these are great facts.
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These are great facts. let's believe them.
00:48:43.800 --> 00:48:44.201
Let's believe them. let's stand on them and you too
00:48:44.334 --> 00:48:47.471
Let's stand on them and you too can have a miracle.
00:48:47.604 --> 00:48:48.038
Can have a miracle. >> now before we pray here and
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>> now before we pray here and i got to give time for you to
00:48:51.708 --> 00:48:52.476
I got to give time for you to pray but here's just an
00:48:52.609 --> 00:48:55.512
Pray but here's just an incredible this is an
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Incredible this is an incredible american.
00:48:56.246 --> 00:48:56.646
Incredible american. here's david from tennessee,
00:48:56.780 --> 00:48:58.515
Here's david from tennessee, the cardiologist told his heart
00:48:58.648 --> 00:49:01.785
The cardiologist told his heart was functioning at 14%.
00:49:01.918 --> 00:49:02.419
Was functioning at 14%. >> he admitted to the icu later
00:49:02.552 --> 00:49:06.189
>> he admitted to the icu later discharged with the list of
00:49:06.323 --> 00:49:06.923
Discharged with the list of meds appointments to make.
00:49:07.057 --> 00:49:09.893
Meds appointments to make. >> well, weeks later david
00:49:10.026 --> 00:49:13.263
>> well, weeks later david sensed and heard a voice.
00:49:13.397 --> 00:49:13.930
Sensed and heard a voice. you are healed well then he
00:49:14.064 --> 00:49:17.200
You are healed well then he said lord, can you give me
00:49:17.334 --> 00:49:18.034
Said lord, can you give me confirmation on march 5th this
00:49:18.168 --> 00:49:21.671
Confirmation on march 5th this year david watching the 700
00:49:21.805 --> 00:49:24.841
Year david watching the 700 club and hears ashley coming
00:49:24.975 --> 00:49:25.542
Club and hears ashley coming that i believe someone's
00:49:25.675 --> 00:49:28.845
That i believe someone's watching it's an issue with
00:49:28.979 --> 00:49:29.546
Watching it's an issue with your heart.
00:49:29.679 --> 00:49:29.946
Your heart. >> it's come out of the blue
00:49:30.080 --> 00:49:32.048
>> it's come out of the blue you don't have a bunch of
00:49:32.182 --> 00:49:32.816
You don't have a bunch of stressors in your life but
00:49:32.949 --> 00:49:33.517
Stressors in your life but you've been worried about this
00:49:33.650 --> 00:49:36.019
You've been worried about this and i believe the lord is
00:49:36.153 --> 00:49:36.753
And i believe the lord is literally restoring proper
00:49:36.887 --> 00:49:37.421
Literally restoring proper ability to your heart and
00:49:37.554 --> 00:49:40.257
Ability to your heart and you're not going to have any
00:49:40.390 --> 00:49:40.957
You're not going to have any other heart palpitations or
00:49:41.091 --> 00:49:41.658
Other heart palpitations or irregular heartbeats in the
00:49:41.792 --> 00:49:44.394
Irregular heartbeats in the name of jesus be made whole and
00:49:44.528 --> 00:49:45.162
Name of jesus be made whole and be healed in jesus name.
00:49:45.295 --> 00:49:45.796
Be healed in jesus name. thank you lord well david knew
00:49:45.929 --> 00:49:48.932
Thank you lord well david knew this was confirmation well two
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This was confirmation well two days later so we're talking on
00:49:51.501 --> 00:49:52.202
Days later so we're talking on march seven this year you went
00:49:52.335 --> 00:49:55.705
March seven this year you went for a checkup the o.r. and took
00:49:55.839 --> 00:49:56.573
For a checkup the o.r. and took the ekg readings twice saying
00:49:56.706 --> 00:49:59.543
The ekg readings twice saying i'm just making sure it's a
00:49:59.676 --> 00:50:00.277
I'm just making sure it's a good read.
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Good read. cardiologist entered the room,
00:50:03.046 --> 00:50:03.613
Cardiologist entered the room, looked at the results, got a
00:50:03.747 --> 00:50:04.314
Looked at the results, got a puzzled look on her face.
00:50:04.448 --> 00:50:07.250
Puzzled look on her face. she said your heart is normal
00:50:07.384 --> 00:50:08.118
She said your heart is normal in that awesome.
00:50:08.251 --> 00:50:10.954
In that awesome. >> your vitals are normal.
00:50:11.087 --> 00:50:11.655
>> your vitals are normal. i'm sorry to have been
00:50:11.788 --> 00:50:14.591
I'm sorry to have been convenience stirred.
00:50:14.724 --> 00:50:15.158
Convenience stirred. >> wow.
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>> wow. god god gets the glory.
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God god gets the glory. >> that's awesome.
00:50:18.662 --> 00:50:19.062
>> that's awesome. yeah, he does.
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Yeah, he does. this is an incredible one.
00:50:19.663 --> 00:50:20.230
This is an incredible one. two, four years wait of
00:50:20.363 --> 00:50:21.565
Two, four years wait of anaheim, california suffered
00:50:21.698 --> 00:50:22.265
Anaheim, california suffered with a condition called
00:50:22.399 --> 00:50:24.434
With a condition called seborrheic dermatitis.
00:50:24.568 --> 00:50:25.001
Seborrheic dermatitis. it was on his face and very
00:50:25.135 --> 00:50:25.836
It was on his face and very difficult to live with while
00:50:25.969 --> 00:50:29.272
Difficult to live with while watching the 700 club wade
00:50:29.406 --> 00:50:29.940
Watching the 700 club wade heard gordon say there's
00:50:30.073 --> 00:50:30.574
Heard gordon say there's someone you're suffering you
00:50:30.707 --> 00:50:32.509
Someone you're suffering you have scaly patches that appear
00:50:32.642 --> 00:50:33.243
Have scaly patches that appear here on your skin they're red
00:50:33.376 --> 00:50:36.513
Here on your skin they're red they scale it's very
00:50:36.646 --> 00:50:37.080
They scale it's very embarrassing for you god is
00:50:37.214 --> 00:50:37.747
Embarrassing for you god is healing you right now he's
00:50:37.881 --> 00:50:40.250
Healing you right now he's restoring your skin.
00:50:40.383 --> 00:50:40.817
Restoring your skin. he's restoring anything
00:50:40.951 --> 00:50:41.418
He's restoring anything associate with whatever the
00:50:41.551 --> 00:50:45.188
Associate with whatever the causes he's healing you and
00:50:45.322 --> 00:50:45.856
Causes he's healing you and it's never going to happen to
00:50:45.989 --> 00:50:46.590
It's never going to happen to you again.
00:50:46.723 --> 00:50:48.291
You again. your skin is being restored now
00:50:48.425 --> 00:50:49.092
Your skin is being restored now in jesus name as an act of
00:50:49.226 --> 00:50:49.793
In jesus name as an act of faith.
00:50:49.926 --> 00:50:50.093
Faith. wade felt his face and it was
00:50:50.227 --> 00:50:52.696
Wade felt his face and it was clean and clear of all sabrina
00:50:52.829 --> 00:50:56.633
Clean and clear of all sabrina which is amazing.
00:50:56.766 --> 00:50:57.167
Which is amazing. >> hallelujah.
00:50:57.300 --> 00:50:57.601
>> hallelujah. let's pray lord almighty we
00:50:57.734 --> 00:51:00.504
Let's pray lord almighty we come to you and we just ask
00:51:00.637 --> 00:51:01.238
Come to you and we just ask that you would cleanse us that
00:51:01.371 --> 00:51:03.907
That you would cleanse us that you would forgive us of all our
00:51:04.040 --> 00:51:04.741
You would forgive us of all our iniquity you would heal us of
00:51:04.875 --> 00:51:07.744
Iniquity you would heal us of all our disease that we may
00:51:07.878 --> 00:51:08.578
All our disease that we may come and worship and praise
00:51:08.712 --> 00:51:11.648
Come and worship and praise what you have already done.
00:51:11.781 --> 00:51:14.718
What you have already done. lord let us enter into your
00:51:14.851 --> 00:51:15.552
Lord let us enter into your presence into, your healing,
00:51:15.685 --> 00:51:18.955
Presence into, your healing, into your forgiveness, into
00:51:19.089 --> 00:51:19.656
Into your forgiveness, into your anointing for we ask it in
00:51:19.789 --> 00:51:23.426
Your anointing for we ask it in jesus name ashley god's given
00:51:23.560 --> 00:51:26.997
Jesus name ashley god's given yeah there's been some parents
00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:27.731
Yeah there's been some parents and you have just been
00:51:27.864 --> 00:51:28.365
And you have just been interceding for child and this
00:51:28.498 --> 00:51:30.634
Interceding for child and this child has been born with
00:51:30.767 --> 00:51:31.301
Child has been born with cerebral palsy and i just
00:51:31.434 --> 00:51:33.937
Cerebral palsy and i just believe god is healing your son
00:51:34.070 --> 00:51:34.704
Believe god is healing your son of that disease in jesus name
00:51:34.838 --> 00:51:37.941
Of that disease in jesus name he will grow and he will be
00:51:38.074 --> 00:51:41.611
He will grow and he will be able to learn and be able to
00:51:41.745 --> 00:51:42.379
Able to learn and be able to have a normal life in jesus
00:51:42.512 --> 00:51:45.849
Have a normal life in jesus name god is healing your son of
00:51:45.982 --> 00:51:46.716
Name god is healing your son of this condition.
00:51:46.850 --> 00:51:49.753
This condition. anyone else claim this for
00:51:49.920 --> 00:51:50.520
Anyone else claim this for yourself, for your son whoever
00:51:50.654 --> 00:51:53.557
Yourself, for your son whoever the person is in your life just
00:51:53.690 --> 00:51:54.524
The person is in your life just claim it now.
00:51:54.658 --> 00:51:54.991
Claim it now. >> jesus, we love you and we
00:51:55.125 --> 00:51:55.725
>> jesus, we love you and we thank you all i know there's
00:51:55.859 --> 00:51:58.161
Thank you all i know there's someone you've got.
00:51:58.295 --> 00:52:00.997
Someone you've got. i don't know what the condition
00:52:01.131 --> 00:52:01.798
I don't know what the condition is.
00:52:01.932 --> 00:52:02.065
Is. i just you have a very painful
00:52:02.198 --> 00:52:05.201
I just you have a very painful swollen right cheek.
00:52:05.335 --> 00:52:05.769
Swollen right cheek. you start in this sense the
00:52:05.902 --> 00:52:06.570
You start in this sense the same thing happening on your
00:52:06.703 --> 00:52:08.738
Same thing happening on your left and it's really concerning
00:52:08.872 --> 00:52:09.506
Left and it's really concerning you the name of jesus be healed
00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:13.076
You the name of jesus be healed may all of that swelling go
00:52:13.209 --> 00:52:15.712
May all of that swelling go away may all the pain leave you
00:52:15.845 --> 00:52:16.680
Away may all the pain leave you now in the name of jesus christ
00:52:16.813 --> 00:52:20.050
Now in the name of jesus christ you my praise thank you lord
00:52:20.183 --> 00:52:24.020
You my praise thank you lord someone else you've got an
00:52:24.154 --> 00:52:27.591
Someone else you've got an infection i don't know what to
00:52:27.724 --> 00:52:28.425
Infection i don't know what to call it's like the membrane of
00:52:28.558 --> 00:52:31.194
Call it's like the membrane of your brain and it's in your
00:52:31.328 --> 00:52:34.664
Your brain and it's in your spinal fluid as well.
00:52:34.798 --> 00:52:35.231
Spinal fluid as well. god is healing you and he's
00:52:35.365 --> 00:52:36.066
God is healing you and he's cleansing of all of that in
00:52:36.199 --> 00:52:38.735
Cleansing of all of that in jesus name a man you've been
00:52:38.868 --> 00:52:42.606
Jesus name a man you've been healed.
00:52:42.739 --> 00:52:42.939
Healed. let us know.
00:52:43.073 --> 00:52:43.373
Let us know. give us a call.
00:52:43.506 --> 00:52:43.840
Give us a call. 1-800-700-7000 if you need
00:52:45.542 --> 00:52:46.343
1-800-700-7000 if you need prayer here for you same number
00:52:46.476 --> 00:52:51.815
Prayer here for you same number 1-800-700-7000 is the word from
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1-800-700-7000 is the word from psalms i shall not die but live
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Psalms i shall not die but live and declare the works of the
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And declare the works of the lord.
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May 14, 2025

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