Tim Graham joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: BBC Scandal | Allen Jackson Now | November 11, 2025
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- Fake news has never been just an american problem.
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- But president trump
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- Can certainly claim ownership rights of the naming rights.
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- In fact,
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- British newspapers are well known for their big headlines,
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- Curious stories that sell papers with tabloid sensibilities.
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- They call them red tops, the mirror, the sun,
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- The daily star, to name a few.
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- And while a lot of people are drawn
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- To the deliberately heightened emotional stories
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- They publish, true or mostly not.
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- Readers and viewers know the difference,
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- Because those attention grabbing headlines
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- And the more staid, left leaning journalism of the bbc
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- Until now, because suddenly the bbc's
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- Director general and ceo of news have resigned.
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- It appears that trump derangement
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- Syndrome, as the white house calls it, has jumped the pond
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- After it was discovered that the bbc edited a speech
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- By president trump to make it appear
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- That he said something he never meant.
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- They deliberately edited not just any speech,
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- But the one that preceded the riot at the us capitol,
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- Trying to make it
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- Sound as though trump was calling for the protesters
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- To take direct, violent action at the capitol,
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- Which he never did.
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- In fact,
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- The comments from the speech
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- They edited together were 50 minutes apart in real time.
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- So now it seems that even british journalist couldn't
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- Resist trying to take a shot at president trump.
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- And like so many others, by misrepresenting
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- What he says and does so fake news is spreading.
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- And here's the kicker.
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- One of them two bbc executives who resigned.
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- They originally came from nbc,
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- Where she was president of their news operation.
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- With that, i want to bring in our guest tonight.
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- He's the executive editor of newsbusters.
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- Tim graham, welcome to the show, tim.
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- Thank you.
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- Newsbusters was built on exposing the liars
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- And finding the truth in media.
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- We've known for years
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- At the bbc produces a very left leaning product.
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- But did you have any idea that they'd edit together
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- Something this bad and this dishonest
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- And think they wouldn't get caught?
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- It's always a surprise when they think
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- They won't get caught.
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- I mean, there is more recent examples.
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- You know, they had this documentary recently,
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- On a palestinian child,
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- Victimized palestinian child.
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- Oops.
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- Call son of a hamas commander.
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- You know, and like, where we weren't going to be found out.
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- So, i guess the trump news wasn't quite as surprising
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- As it might have been a year or two ago.
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- But it is just simply irresponsible to edit
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- Two pieces of film together and try to convince people,
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- That something was said that wasn't really sad.
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- You know, the president's been talking
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- About this problem for a long time.
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- Listen to
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- When we first heard him
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- Say fake news during his first
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- Press conference after getting elected.
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- He was calling out
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- Cnn's jim acosta during a rather chaotic scene.
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- You know, organizations who are attacking our news
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- Organizations, organizations should give us a chance.
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- Good question sir. go ahead sir.
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- Can you stay quiet, mr. president elect?
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- Go ahead. you say.
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- Can you ask any question? no. personal life.
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- Can you give us a. don't be rude asking us.
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- Can you give us a question?
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- Don't be a question.
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- I'm not going to give you.
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- Can you can you state you are fake news?
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- Well, cnn eventually offered acosta
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- A nearly invisible overnight slot, and he resigned.
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- Meanwhile, the president is now
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- Going to sue the bbc for misrepresenting his speech.
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- He's won other lawsuits.
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- But do you think these people will ever learn
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- That telling the truth really does matter?
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- I think
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- If they believe in winning, that's what they believe in.
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- So, you know, we just had an election
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- And they can say, well, maybe our media bias works.
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- The democrats, you know, had a good day.
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- The republicans had a bad day.
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- And they think mission accomplished.
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- And i really think that's the mission.
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- They're after is victory
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- And not telling the truth or offering people news.
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- I mean, to some degree, the term fake news means
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- What you're producing isn't objective.
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- It's not organized to just give people facts.
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- It's organized like a campaign advertisement.
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- We see a lot of that.
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- You certainly did on cnn.
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- Everything they wanted to do
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- Was attacking trump, and that's what he was talking about.
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- As i mentioned, the bbc's head of news,
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- Deborah ternus, was running nbc news for four years.
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- Do you think she took some of
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- What she did at msnbc over to the bbc,
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- Only to have it backfire?
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- Well, i don't think she was responsible
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- For the fake dateline gm truck debacle.
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- I mean, clearly american media
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- Outlets have made these mistakes as well.
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- But, you know, i again, i think the whole system
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- Of the bbc comes from an arrogance
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- That they really are the government funded broadcaster,
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- But also they like to think of themselves as the
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- The very gold standard of news media in the western world.
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- And certainly pbs and npr here in the united states.
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- Think of the bbc as that's what they want to be like.
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- And that's exactly
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- The problem is they are all a group of arrogant leftists
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- Who think that they are the guardians of democracy
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- And the facts.
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- But again,
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- They're more interested in marshaling the facts
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- In such a way that democrats win, which isn't always factual.
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- And a lot of times it's not democratic in that
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- It allows more than one point of view.
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- You know, what we're describing rather casually,
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- Really is a complete corruption of what journalism
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- Existed as for many, many decades.
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- I mean, there was a standard of
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- At least a sense of objectivity,
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- And you're describing something completely different.
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- Is there any course correction
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- Or any regret over what's happened?
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- I mean, there's certainly a different way to do it.
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- You know,
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- We are looking now at this cable channel, news nation,
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- Which is trying to go back to sort of that old fashion.
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- Let's make sure both sides get a get a soundbite.
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- It's not hard to do.
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- It's not hard to make.
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- It's not something that's too antiquated to practice.
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- It's just i think that in america,
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- We have a place now where people are like,
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- Well, i want my news
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- Cooked up this way, or i want my news cooked up that way.
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- And they serve different audiences, republican audiences,
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- Democrat audiences.
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- But certainly you can still make a product
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- Where both sides get a shot and that you can acknowledge
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- Facts that might not be helpful to one side or another.
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- I think there's still room for that, i think,
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- And i think there's still an audience for that.
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- Well, the
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- Lawsuits seem to be playing a role in all of this.
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- Are they going to eventually force news editors
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- And journalists to aim for more of a centrist truth,
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- Rather than see their reputations good, soiled?
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- Well, again, you can be biased
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- And yet not find yourself liable for defamation.
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- You know, i think the thing
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- That was, for example, that was so funny about the cbs
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- Suit was
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- What they really needed to do,
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- Was just put out a transcript and a video.
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- The fcc ultimately succeeded in getting cbs
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- To put a transcript and a video months later,
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- Donald trump just gave an interview to 60 minutes,
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- And it was donald trump that put the recording out right away.
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- And then cbs felt like they could do the same.
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- And that's the way it should be.
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- But, you know,
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- When cbs interviewed joe biden for 60 minutes,
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- They weren't going to put out an entire video.
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- They weren't going to put out
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- A whole transcript of what biden was, asked him what he said,
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- Because it probably would have been embarrassing to biden.
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- So, yeah, i mean, you can be a
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- Tilted news source and yet not be liable to be sued.
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- They can't seem to find where the line is.
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- Well, there's another component that's a part of this.
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- Now, more of the big media
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- Is being taken over by people with really deep pockets.
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- Bezos with the washington post, cbs by paramount,
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- Abc and disney.
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- Do you think that any of them will eventually see
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- A financial reason to report the truth,
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- Rather than have to face the lawsuits
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- And the bad publicity that comes with being forced into court?
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- I think that's part of the reason why paramount
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- Wants to do something different.
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- And they've done this
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- Wildly controversial thing of naming an editor in chief
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- Who has a record of wanting to hear from both sides.
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- This is, of course,
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- Deeply disturbing to the veterans inside cbs news.
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- We're very scared that their network might try.
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- Fair and balanced.
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- That's frightening.
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- They see that.
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- They see fair and balanced as a surrender to trump.
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- I mean, that's really the mindset they have.
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- So again, their idea of cbs is a crown
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- Jewel when it's absolutely subservient
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- To the bidens or the obamas or the clintons.
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- That's that ideal.
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- But i think, yeah,
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- Cbs, to some extent, what they might be saying is
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- We're tired of cbs being in third place.
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- Let's try something different
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- To see if we can be in first place.
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- Well, tim, we need to take a short break.
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- Can you stay for another segment?
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- Sure.
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- If you've got an opinion about the american media,
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- I'd like to ask you to share it with me at aj now.com.
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- The link is at the top of the home page.
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- What's easy to do? you take a moment.
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- I'll be right back with more from tim graham.
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- I'll be right back with more from tim graham.
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- Well, i'm back now with the executive
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- Editor of newsbusters, tim graham.
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- Tim, i'd like to ask you to help us out by giving us
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- A couple of more examples of what the media has done
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- Or tried to do
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- To distort the real world so we can know what to look for
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- If we think we're spotting fake news.
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- Well, one of the other suits, of course, was the abc suit
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- Where george stephanopoulos insisted that donald trump
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- Had been found liable for rape, which was not accurate.
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- And of course, one of the reasons
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- That disney gave in to trump on that was they didn't
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- Want his lawyers getting into the stephanopoulos emails.
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- You know,
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- This is, again, the danger for them is they don't want
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- Us to know how they cook up the news product.
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- You know, we did see that when fox news
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- Was sued, over the 2020 election.
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- And you could see
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- There was a lot of debate and dispute going on inside fox
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- About how they were covering the aftermath of the 2020 race.
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- They thought that was fantastic to have all of that data
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- When it was fox data.
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- The rest of the media doesn't really want everybody to know
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- What's going on inside the liberal networks.
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- But look, all the time they are they are collating
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- And very carefully organizing the news.
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- And it's not just what they put on the air,
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- But there's so much, so many stories that they refuse
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- To put on the air.
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- And we like drawing attention
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- To that, to say, here's stories they don't want to tell you.
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- For example, we you know, the only way we learned that
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- There were slaughter of christians
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- In nigeria is because trump brought it up.
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- And then they had the audacity to try to suggest
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- This wasn't
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- Really happening in nigeria, which was completely mind
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- Boggling.
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- Anybody who looks
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- Into the actual data from human rights groups knows
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- There's slaughter of christians in nigeria.
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- What is most of the distortion
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- About chasing traffic for profit,
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- Or is it more about the liberal
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- And progressive agenda that's on display?
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- Yeah, i think the agenda comes number one.
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- I think most of the arrogant journalists here
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- Don't care about profits.
- 00:11:57.132 --> 00:11:59.368
- You know, the people at the washington
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- Post really don't care whether jeff bezos makes a profit.
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- I think they're more concerned about
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- Maybe they'll earn a few prizes, they'll get a pulitzer prize.
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- You usually win those for being on the right topic.
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- Whether it's actually accurate or not is not as important.
- 00:12:14.850 --> 00:12:18.220
- Like, you know, the washington post won an award
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- For reporting on so-called russian collusion with trump
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- When that wasn't true.
- 00:12:24.326 --> 00:12:25.594
- It's like, well, but you your heart was in the right place.
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- You're you were on the right subject.
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- So maybe there's a little people wanting prizes, but i think
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- There most journalists might care
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- About their own pay package, but they're not really concerned
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- About the bottom line in their own company.
- 00:12:38.640 --> 00:12:40.809
- Well, how much does all the distortion in the news
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- Make things worse just overall for the country?
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- Well, i think yeah.
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- Here's one example for me.
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- We're getting near thanksgiving.
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- And when people sit down at thanksgiving,
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- If they have political
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- Conversations over the turkey, i try not to do that.
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- But a lot of times your your liberal family members
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- Will have no idea what you're talking about
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- Because again, they're watching news that is very one sided
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- And keeps a lot of things out of the news.
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- So they they feel like you've got a second head
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- When you start explaining some of these things.
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- You know, who is hunter biden and what was on his laptop?
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- And they're like, why do i have to care about that?
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- So i always tell everybody, you want to get a balanced diet.
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- You know, obviously we spend a lot of our day
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- Watching the networks we disagree with
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- So we can explain them to people.
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- But also it's helpful to just see raw news events and see
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- Speeches that, that political, political leaders make
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- So you can understand how it gets sliced and diced.
- 00:13:42.371 --> 00:13:46.708
- You know, looking back,
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- I can think of the american tabloids
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- That existed decades ago,
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- Followed by a period
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- Where good journalism seems to have won the day.
- 00:13:52.948 --> 00:13:56.018
- Whoever got the story first
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- And got it right had the most traffic.
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- Do you have any idea of why things changed?
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- Do you think they'll ever be a return to the truth?
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- In that sense?
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- Well, i mean, again, i always try to say i
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- If i pick up a newspaper like the washington post
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- And i've read the washington post for for decades,
- 00:14:12.768 --> 00:14:16.972
- You know, i wouldn't tell you
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- Most of the stories in they are full of lies.
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- It's just a matter of part of the problem we have now
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- Is that there's so much opinion in our news,
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- Is that they can't just give you that old fashioned thing.
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- The president gave a speech today.
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- Here's how it was received by the democrats.
- 00:14:32.321 --> 00:14:35.190
- Now it's more like the story begins with donald trump
- 00:14:35.190 --> 00:14:37.993
- Lied again today, you know, and destroyed democracy.
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- The end.
- 00:14:41.964 --> 00:14:42.798
- I mean, there it would be nice again
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- If we could find that pattern of just trying to not treat
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- The reader like they're stupid.
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- Just explain.
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- Here's what happens.
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- Here's how people thought about what happened.
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- That would be nice.
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- And i think we could all benefit from it.
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- Amen.
- 00:15:01.516 --> 00:15:02.884
- Well, tim graham, thank you for your time today.
- 00:15:02.884 --> 00:15:05.354
- Remind our viewers where they ca
- 00:15:05.354 --> 00:15:08.991
- Where we're at newsbusters.org, where we're constantly
- 00:15:10.025 --> 00:15:12.961
- Putting up videos and transcripts
- 00:15:12.961 --> 00:15:14.863
- And kind of exposing what we see. and.
- 00:15:14.863 --> 00:15:16.865
- And i also host the newsbusters podcast where we talk
- 00:15:16.865 --> 00:15:19.901
- About these issues.
- 00:15:19.901 --> 00:15:21.470
- Well, thank you for joining us tonight.
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- Stay in touch so we can have you back again.
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- Thank you sir.
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- In a moment, given that it's a veteran's day,
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- I'll have something to say
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- To all who have served our country
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- Or are serving in the military right now.
- 00:15:32.914 --> 00:15:35.350
- Millions of men and women standing watch on our behalf.
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- I'll be right back.
- 00:15:39.021 --> 00:15:46.000
- I'll be right back.
- 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.368
- We are living
- 00:15:50.735 --> 00:15:51.903
- In a time of unprecedented manipulation and deception.
- 00:15:51.903 --> 00:15:54.606
- The lies coming from the legacy media and influential voices.
- 00:15:54.606 --> 00:15:58.543
- Sometimes they just seem astonishing.
- 00:15:58.543 --> 00:16:00.745
- But i want to remind you that truth cannot be defeated.
- 00:16:00.745 --> 00:16:04.149
- There's a moral and spiritual authority in god's truth
- 00:16:04.149 --> 00:16:07.552
- If you suppress the truth.
- 00:16:07.552 --> 00:16:08.953
- It's like holding a ball underwater.
- 00:16:08.953 --> 00:16:10.822
- Eventually, it'll come up again.
- 00:16:10.822 --> 00:16:13.358
- Well, the good news is we as christ
- 00:16:13.358 --> 00:16:14.826
- Followers, have a tremendous opportunity.
- 00:16:14.826 --> 00:16:17.328
- We live in a country
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- That affords us the freedom to speak the freedom to worship.
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- And on this veteran's day,
- 00:16:22.100 --> 00:16:23.635
- I want to remember the brave men and women
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- Who have made sacrifices for our freedoms.
- 00:16:25.637 --> 00:16:28.640
- Freedom is not cheap, and it certainly isn't free.
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- If you're a veteran, we salute you.
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- We offer you our heartfelt gratitude
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- For defending our freedoms and liberties.
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- Your discipline and obedience.
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- They change the destinies of other people's lives.
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- And for that reason, i call you a hero.
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- Veterans are our friends, relatives, neighbors,
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- Coworkers, and church members.
- 00:16:48.993 --> 00:16:50.962
- Many of our veterans
- 00:16:50.962 --> 00:16:52.030
- Are rightfully proud of their service,
- 00:16:52.030 --> 00:16:54.699
- While others have been told that their service for
- 00:16:54.699 --> 00:16:56.367
- Our nation was not given in an honorable cause.
- 00:16:56.367 --> 00:16:59.737
- And that's left them conflicted.
- 00:16:59.737 --> 00:17:01.706
- Some of them were wounded physically and bear the scars.
- 00:17:01.706 --> 00:17:04.943
- Others bear psychological scars that aren't as visible,
- 00:17:04.943 --> 00:17:07.679
- But they're very real nonetheless.
- 00:17:07.679 --> 00:17:10.115
- Well, my plea to all christ followers is to think
- 00:17:10.115 --> 00:17:12.617
- About others and not just about yourself.
- 00:17:12.617 --> 00:17:14.953
- Be aware. listen to those around you.
- 00:17:14.953 --> 00:17:16.888
- See if they need help.
- 00:17:16.888 --> 00:17:18.423
- And if you meet a veteran, say thank you.
- 00:17:18.423 --> 00:17:21.793
- I also want to remind us all
- 00:17:21.793 --> 00:17:23.128
- To use the freedoms that we're so blessed with.
- 00:17:23.128 --> 00:17:25.663
- Our future depends more on the vitality of the church
- 00:17:25.663 --> 00:17:29.000
- Than it does on conservatism or progressives.
- 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.870
- The voice of the church is so important.
- 00:17:31.870 --> 00:17:34.139
- You know, i know it's often hated or at least diminished.
- 00:17:34.139 --> 00:17:36.741
- I know there's a temper.
- 00:17:36.741 --> 00:17:37.942
- Attempts to try to squelch that.
- 00:17:37.942 --> 00:17:39.744
- But it isn't about us.
- 00:17:39.744 --> 00:17:41.379
- It's about the one that we serve.
- 00:17:41.379 --> 00:17:43.581
- We're going to need the courage
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- And the willingness to say, god bless america again.
- 00:17:44.782 --> 00:17:48.153
- In the public squares, in our workplaces,
- 00:17:48.153 --> 00:17:50.355
- Hospitals, courtrooms and our classrooms.
- 00:17:50.355 --> 00:17:53.391
- And that is a reason for hope.
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- We'll be back with your emails.
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- We'll be back with your emails.
- 00:18:14.998 --> 00:18:19.115
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- Joe from rhode island wrote i'm concerned
- 00:18:24.520 --> 00:18:26.956
- That charlie kirk's murder was a loss
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- For its being used in a way
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- That will turn his memory into an idol.
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- We can't let that happen.
- 00:18:32.562 --> 00:18:34.697
- Well, joe, i think there's a couple
- 00:18:34.697 --> 00:18:35.865
- Of things we have to remember. charlie left us a legacy.
- 00:18:35.865 --> 00:18:37.967
- He led his life.
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- He lived it. we won't change that.
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- I share some concerns around the frenzy after charlie's
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- Assassination as well.
- 00:18:45.174 --> 00:18:46.842
- But we could take the principles he stood for
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- And live those forward, using our own voices for truth.
- 00:18:48.644 --> 00:18:52.148
- Don't let the media or other people's opinions,
- 00:18:52.148 --> 00:18:54.083
- Or even their motives,
- 00:18:54.083 --> 00:18:55.184
- Stop us from doing what we know to be the right thing.
- 00:18:55.184 --> 00:18:57.687
- I believe that's the way we honor charlie
- 00:18:57.687 --> 00:18:59.288
- And more importantly, the principles for which he stood.
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- A viewer commented on youtube.
- 00:19:02.558 --> 00:19:04.460
- You made a good point, pastor al.
- 00:19:04.460 --> 00:19:06.062
- The islamic people in islam is not a peaceful people
- 00:19:06.062 --> 00:19:09.732
- Because if they were with so many of them in that region,
- 00:19:09.732 --> 00:19:12.702
- There would have been peace long ago.
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- Thank you so much for having the courage to say that.
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- Well thank you.
- 00:19:19.175 --> 00:19:19.909
- Sometimes the simple truth
- 00:19:19.909 --> 00:19:21.344
- That we see gets clouded by all the language around it.
- 00:19:21.344 --> 00:19:25.314
- It helps to pay attention and think about what you're seeing.
- 00:19:25.314 --> 00:19:28.417
- Jimmy from alabama wrote i'm watching your show with mr.
- 00:19:28.417 --> 00:19:31.387
- Blue.
- 00:19:31.387 --> 00:19:32.321
- I'm old enough to remember that years ago,
- 00:19:32.321 --> 00:19:34.490
- When the news channels made a mistake,
- 00:19:34.490 --> 00:19:36.592
- They would apologize and correct themselves a day or two later.
- 00:19:36.592 --> 00:19:40.696
- My mother always said, always tell the truth,
- 00:19:40.696 --> 00:19:43.599
- And you won't have to remember what you said.
- 00:19:43.599 --> 00:19:46.269
- Well, i
- 00:19:46.502 --> 00:19:47.370
- Can remember that as well, jimmy. and
- 00:19:47.370 --> 00:19:48.571
- I can remember some other things that my mother had to say.
- 00:19:48.571 --> 00:19:50.740
- That'd be an interesting program.
- 00:19:50.740 --> 00:19:52.875
- Lessons from our moms.
- 00:19:52.875 --> 00:19:56.379
- I'll have to think about that one a little bit.
- 00:19:56.379 --> 00:19:58.447
- We're going to do a program in the near future where we use
- 00:19:58.447 --> 00:20:01.017
- Only your emails.
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- If you'd like to be a part of that program, take a minute.
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- You go to aj now.com. there's a button there.
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- Click send us an email on your perspectives.
- 00:20:06.756 --> 00:20:09.258
- We might read them on the air
- 00:20:09.258 --> 00:20:10.559
- And you'll get to be a part of that program.
- 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:12.862
- It's an exciting season.
- 00:20:12.862 --> 00:20:13.929
- God's moving in the earth.
- 00:20:13.929 --> 00:20:15.398
- Don't miss that. don't get confused.
- 00:20:15.398 --> 00:20:17.233
- And certainly don't be overcome by despair at the darkness.
- 00:20:17.233 --> 00:20:20.169
- God has not abandoned us.
- 00:20:20.169 --> 00:20:22.071
- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us,
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- And i pray you have a good evening.
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