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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Bible in Schools | Allen Jackson Now | July 1, 2026

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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You know, it's often said
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That america's future will be decided in washington.
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But history tells a different story.
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More often than not, the biggest changes in our country.
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They begin quietly in local communities,
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In city council meetings, in school board
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Meetings, in classrooms where the next generation learns
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Not only reading and math,
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But the values that shape how they see the world.
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Well, texas recently made a decision
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That has attracted attention across the country.
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The state board of education approved a required reading list
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That includes passages
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From the bible, right alongside classic works of literature.
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Students are going to encounter stories like noah's ark,
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David and goliath, daniel in the lion's den,
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And portions of jesus sermon on the mount in public schools.
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Well, supporters argue that these aren't
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Simply religious stories.
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They're part of the foundation of western civilization,
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And it's impossible to separate them
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From the founding values of america itself.
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But texas also offers another lesson,
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One that should challenge every believer.
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It's been a few years ago,
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But the local school board in fort worth
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Became the first in america to adopt policies
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Allowing students to choose bathrooms and locker rooms
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Based on
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Their preferred gender identity,
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Rather than on their biological sex.
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Well, that decision was later embraced
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By the obama administration, and it helped shaped
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Gender identity policies that spread nationwide.
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What began with one local election
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Eventually influence schools from coast to coast.
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The remarkable part
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Is that the school board leader responsible for that decision,
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He won his office with roughly 1200 votes.
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In a city with churches whose weekly attendance
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Far exceeds that number, it raises a very important question
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What happens when people of faith
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Step away from the public square?
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Well, joining me now is
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Someone who spends much of his time
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Working with pastors and parents, educators,
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Community leaders across the country.
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Tim barton is the president of wallbuilders.
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Tim, it is always good to have you with us.
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It's so good to be with you, pastor. thank you.
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We are delighted.
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We want to focus in this program on some legislative updates.
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There's some remarkable things happening
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At the legislative level.
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And i think so often as pastors and,
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You know,
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We tell the bad things that happen
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And the absurd things that happen.
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But there really is some remarkable
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Good news taking place on a legislative level.
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There are lots of reasons to be encouraged
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That everyday americans, that we would be so blessed
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If we actually knew what was happening.
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Of course, we know the media finds
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More gain from selling drama and fear.
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It's we don't have enough of the paul
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Harvey's telling us the rest of the story.
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But when you go back and look, you know who paul harvey is.
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I grew up loving paul harvey, and now,
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Maybe where i got some of my love
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Of storytelling and learning stories.
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But not to digress, because what paul harvey did was
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Showing people. you think you know something.
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Let me tell you the rest of the story.
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I think if most americans knew the rest of the story,
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What's happening on a state level,
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We are winning at unprecedented levels.
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Things that for my dad, who started the organization
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Back in the 80s,
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Things that they were praying for since the 1980s,
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That honestly, he didn't even know
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That he would ever see in his lifetime happen.
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They're literally happening right now.
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Things like the bible being invited back into public school.
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You mentioned, in texas.
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This was just last week.
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The state board of education,
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They approved kindergarten through eighth grade,
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That they actually tabled
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The high school conversation
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Because there's a lot of debates going on.
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They're going to revisit that in september.
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But we're not discouraged by that at all.
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But the fact is, they said that students,
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They should be able to know some things about the bible
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Because you can't really understand history
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And literature. there's a lot of factors.
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If you don't know the bible.
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And and really,
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This shouldn't even be controversial
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Because things that there are progressives and whatever
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The political affiliation, people that don't generally tend
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To like the bible or conservatives,
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They would argue that, well, we want kids to learn more
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About the civil rights movement or whatever else.
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And we would point out, hey,
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So these civil rights leaders that that you want to highlight,
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Who were they and what do they believe?
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And so many of them were faith people motivated by their faith.
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And for example, when you have mlk, his letter
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From the birmingham jail,
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When he's chastising other pastors
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For not standing up, what he says is,
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I am just like paul in prison right now, he says.
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It's like i'm daniel, thrown in the lion's den.
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And and if you don't know the bible,
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You have no idea what he's referencing.
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And this was part of the point
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Is that you really can't even fully understand history
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In america
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Without having some basic knowledge of the bible,
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Because of how much the bible has influenced
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The history of our nation.
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It came out in people's conversations
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And their writings and their interaction.
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And my dad, the reason he got involved back in the 80s
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Was largely motivated by prayer and bible
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Being taken out of schools, and as a christian,
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He said, this is this is terrible.
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And we we want our kids to grow up learning the bible,
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To be able to pray and talk to god.
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And so that's part of what motivated him
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From the beginning.
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And part of the motivation was
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When he found out the founding fathers were
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The ones who actually encouraged prayer and bible
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And realized that we've gone the entirely different direction.
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That's what's motivated us to try to reteach
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The american history to people.
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But it was in an effort to restore the biblical foundation.
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And i'm saying this to tie the bow on it.
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Now that he's been working for nearly 40 years
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For something he wasn't sure he would see in his lifetime,
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And in god's faithfulness and blessing.
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It's literally happening.
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And it's not just in texas, but this is one of those things.
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There's so much good news happening
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That i think most americans just don't know about.
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Absolutely.
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You know,
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I think we not only know about it,
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I think there's a hesitancy
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In the part of many in the christian community.
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Yeah, because we've been told
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For so long that we should separate
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Our faith from the public square.
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We should have a private faith.
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We should believe in a personal conversion.
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And i think that's a very destructive idea.
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I mean, i believe in conversion,
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But the idea that it's private
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And we shouldn't be in the public square,
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We're going to take a quick break.
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But when we come back, we're going to ask tim
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If that's right,
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Your faith should be private or if we have a place in public.
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If you got your phone in your hand,
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You can log on to aj now.com.
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You can send us your thoughts on that topic.
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We're going to hear tim's in jus
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We're going to hear tim's in jus
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We're back now with the president of wallbuilders,
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Tim barton.
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So tim, what about this notion that christians should be meek
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And quiet and hide in our churches
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And not engage in public policy or the public square?
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Sure.
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I don't think that is consistent with our history,
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And it's not conservative history at all.
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It's not consistent with the bible at all.
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There you go.
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And i would say let's start with the bible.
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This is the first hurdle you have to overcome.
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If you're a christian who thinks we shouldn't
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Be involved in government or politics.
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And i think that for lots of reasons.
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But i think big picture if we look at the fact that god,
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After he makes adam and eve, he makes institutions,
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He makes the family,
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He makes government, he makes the church,
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And he gives rules of how they all should be orchestrated
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And run and design and
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And what is inbounds and what's out of bounds.
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And what's interesting about this is we can look at places
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Where what where did god give direct guidance
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For like the church.
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And you can say, well, there's five
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What are considered pastoral epistles, right.
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Where paul is giving guidance on, hey,
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This is the way you like your elders, your leadership.
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There's places where we can say,
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What does the bible say about the family?
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You think, well, there's places maybe in the tour,
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Deuteronomy, maybe there's some and exodus
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Numbers, leviticus, some verses you could find.
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Certainly there's some places,
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That you might, could find in some of the epistles.
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But the reason i say all this is no christian would question
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That the bible speaks to the role of the church
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Or the role of the family.
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And yet, for some reason, we have hesitancy
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When it comes to the government.
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And i would challenge, you know, what?
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The bible deals more with government
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And government leaders than any other topic.
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And if we don't have hesitation on applying the bible to family
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Or the church, literally all of deuteronomy, pretty much
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All of, well, at least portions of leviticus and numbers.
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God dealing with government.
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When you look at exodus, god's giving civil laws
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For how government operates, you can go to judges.
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God's dealing with leadership from a government standpoint.
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You have first and second samuel,
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First and second kings and first nine chronicles.
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The prophets are largely dealing with the government leaders.
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It's crazy when people
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Like, well, christian shooting involved based on what verse
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That's on what bible. right.
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I like genuinely when when jesus said
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That part of the prayer we should pray
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Is that his kingdom would come on earth as it is in heaven.
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The question is, well, who brings god's kingdom on earth?
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And and the kingdom?
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Sounds like that's actually government
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Structure of some level.
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Power and authority, not just families and churches.
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And i don't
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I don't say this to be coy
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Because i know there's people would say, well,
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You render to caesar with caesar and god what's god's.
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And i would even then say, yes, but that seems to indicate
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That god still suggests there's things that are governmental
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And there are things that are god's.
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And i think there's a deeper level question with that.
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But if the founding fathers had had the idea
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That christians shouldn't get involved,
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The the statements that actually came
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From a british loyalist at the end of the revolution,
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He said, had it not been for the pastors
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And he called them the black robed regiment, had it
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Not been for that black regiment,
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We would still have happy british colonies
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Over in the new world.
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It actually was because of their christian faith.
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It was the pastors encouraging them
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Based on what the bible said, to get involved.
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And i think when christians
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Are opting to not get involved, you've missed a lot of some.
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What i would think is some low hanging, obvious thoughts
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Where the bible says
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That we should be good stewards of what god has given us.
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God put us in a free nation
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Where we as a republic, a nation,
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We get a vote and choose our leaders. and.
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And if you're not using your vote in elections
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And you're actually, i think, closer to the
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The one servant that took and buried that talent on the ground
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Because i don't want to mess it up.
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And they were called the wicked, lazy, unprofitable servant.
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I think there's a lot of verses we can point to,
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But certainly historically if christians
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Didn't get involved, we wouldn't have the nation.
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But what i would say, pastor
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Jackson, is even on the positive side,
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The reason we have so many victories right now
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Is because christians did get involved.
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We mentioned in the first segment
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What happened at the state board of education with texas.
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What's worth noting is there was a new state
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Board of education member on it this year.
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His name is brandon hall.
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Who's this guy?
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Oh, he was a pastor of a church
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Who decides he wants to get involved.
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And what can he do?
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Well, i want to help kids of the rising generation
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Have some good moral foundation, so he gets involved.
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We are seeing more christians and more pastors get involved.
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Which is why we are seeing
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Victories is why we're seeing states
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Do things like adopt the ten commandments,
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Which again, i know that there's people
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That get triggered and we'll wait.
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We have we we shouldn't have religion there.
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And of course, the question i want to ask is,
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Well then what
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Moral standard do you think we should have there?
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Because if it's not god's moral standard,
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Then whose moral standard are we going to follow?
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And i think a lot of people's,
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The pretense they have of christians
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Not being involved, it falls apart pretty quickly
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When you ask some very basic, honest questions.
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But i think a lot of people
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Haven't thought through it very well.
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But backing up, we have ten commandment
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Legislation going through.
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We literally have prayer and chaplains that are actually
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Now just like schools have school counselors.
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There are state to say,
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Just like we have school counselors,
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Every school will have a chaplain.
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What's also amazing
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Is there's now thousands of public schools
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In the nation that where there are chaplains in those schools,
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They have zero suicides.
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Wow. which one of the big academics right now plaguing
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Young people is, is depression.
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And suicide is on the rise in young people,
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Except when there's a chaplain in school,
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They've had no suicides, but there's a chaplain. well,
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It seems like maybe we need more chaplains in school.
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The point is, we are having so many wins from a moral.
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And even as a person of faith, things
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That we should celebrate as a christian.
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Most people don't know it.
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But there's major wins happening all over the nation.
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But you made the point that if christianity
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Isn't in the public square, there is a worldview there.
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And i think that is so is not just true in the public square.
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It's true in the corporate boardroom.
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It's true in academia.
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If we don't take our biblical judeo-christian worldview
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Into those places,
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There's going to be an ideology that predominates.
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We've seen that in the corporate setting.
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They'll push for dei or lgbtq or whatever.
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Right.
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And so we can't afford to sit on the sidelines and be silent.
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We've got to be engaged.
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Yeah.
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And i would say that
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The way i've heard it said that, i think is so brilliant is if
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Godly people won't lead, the godless will.
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And so really, it's only a question between two ideologies.
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It's either god's way or it's not god's way.
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And then you can differentiate like what is not god's way
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Look like, is that socialism or communism? marxism?
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Well, there's lots of not god's ways, but all of them.
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The bible tells us that
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In the end, it leads to death,
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Because the way that might seem right to man,
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But we know where that road ends and it's death.
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And so if godly people don't get involved,
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There's only one option for this
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Other road ends, which is why godly
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People have to get involved. absolutely.
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We need to take another short break.
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We're going to be back in just a minute.
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We're going to talk a bit more about what god is doing.
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There are amazing things happening on a legislative level
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To make our future hopeful for our children,
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Our families and our nation.
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You don't want to miss it. we'll be right back.
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You don't want to miss it. we'll be right back.
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We're back now with the president of wallbuilders,
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Tim barton.
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Tim, there
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Truly are remarkable things happening at a legislative level
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That are going to bring more
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Religious freedoms and liberties and opportunities to us
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And you and wallbuilders.
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And i know your dad work right in the midst of that.
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If people want to know more about you,
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They go to wallbuilders.com. yes, sir.
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But they can also go to pro family.com
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To get into the legislative part of it specifically. yes.
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Or so we we've had a legislative network for over 20 years.
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And as we've been encouraging
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Christians to get back involved in the process,
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The conversation came up of, okay,
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If we get involved, how do we do it?
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What do we do? and so that's where we started.
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We call it our pro-family legislative network.
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We work
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With about a thousand state legislators around the nation.
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There's a little less than 8000.
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So it's roughly one out of eight, that we interact with.
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And so god's opened some incredible doors
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For us to help educate them most.
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What we do is american history.
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And so we can help show people what the constitutional,
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Inalienable rights, basic values, bill of rights, where
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That kind of comes from and help connect those dots for them.
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And so a lot of things
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That are very faith motivated because of our ideology,
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Whether we talk about, first of all, banning,
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Surgical procedures for minors to transition surgeries.
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But one of the cool things that happened
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This year is
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We had a model piece of legislation from this last,
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Legislators conference, which we were very blessed
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To have you come and speak at,
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So grateful for that was a highlight of my year.
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Get to be a part of that. and i learned so much.
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We were so blessed.
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So grateful to have you.
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One of the the legislative ideas was to hold insurance
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Companies accountable on a higher level,
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That if insurance
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Is going to pay for a minor to do the medical transition,
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Then you have to pay for their detransition.
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Well, this is now making them think twice, because
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That's not nearly as expensive a transition as it is to undo
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All of the damage that you did.
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And obviously, we know to some extent
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Some of that damage can never be undone.
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But the fact that there's now accountability metrics in place
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And again,
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This is this is because we're motivated by our faith.
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We know that because there's a god, and he made us in his image
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And that life is sacred and we have a value for life.
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And we want to do things to protect the weak,
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The innocent, the vulnerable, the kids.
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So there's a lot of
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Things like that along the way that are very faith oriented,
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Very positive steps that are being taken.
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So it's not it's not only the restoration
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From the high level of like bible and prayer.
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There's a lot of very practical, pragmatic things.
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Even when it comes to helping get more voter id laws
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Passed, in states, it shouldn't be a controversial thing.
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What 80% of americans agree it, or even the idea that,
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Looking through the legislative process,
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There's a lot of states that because the overturning of roe
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Versus wade,
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Some of those states already had the outlawing of abortion,
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But now they're states
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That are going to send in the number one
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Abortion drug, mifepristone.
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And so now it's estimated 70% of abortions
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Are actually happening through this mail in drug.
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And actually some people
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Can even order it like internationally
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Because china wants to give us all those drugs.
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All of us who say some states are saying
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That any company that ships that in actually can be held liable
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And so that family, if something happens
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Or they ultimately change their mind,
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They can actually have a a legal standing
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To bring suit against a company that ship that in.
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So there's creative ways trying to minimize some of
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The sin, the problems, the evils that are going on.
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And again,
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The reason that we have pro-family dot
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Com is because we were trying to find a way to help equip and
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And even train help strategize, think through deeper level
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For these legislators.
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It's one thing to encourage christians to get involved in
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Every christian should get involved.
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But some christians might feel called,
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I think god wants me on the school board,
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Or maybe city council, or maybe state legislature.
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And they go, i have no idea how to do this,
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And we want to help walk people through that process.
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We have a lot of partners along the way.
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And we try to do this on lots of high levels, too,
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Because we don't just work with state legislators.
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We also do we talked actually on break
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About teachers, that there's a lot of teachers
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That are going, hey, i love jesus.
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Maybe i'm
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In a place that they frown on me talking about my faith.
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How do i navigate that?
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There's a great website called restoring faith in america.
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After the coach joe kennedy decision that overturned lemon
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The supreme court said, if there's a long standing
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History and tradition,
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There should be a presumption of constitutionality.
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And so we worked with,
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One of our good friends, kelly shackelford from first liberty
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And their attorneys.
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And we were able to say, hey, here's the legal history
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And tradition of what
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Teachers, among others, used to be able to do and say.
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And so they then say, well,
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Then we will
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Legally protect, represent for free
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Any teacher that wants to do this.
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So they on their website have a list of things
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That teachers can do, of things that if you want to have
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A bible on your desk,
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If you wanna put a bible verse up like you're
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Kind of your motto, you can have a motto on your desk.
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There's a lot of really great strategies.
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And if a student come up and ask a question,
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As a teacher,
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You are able to answer any question a student asks.
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And so if a student asks you, hey, why do you do this?
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You can be open about your faith.
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Even if the school administration
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Says, don't you do that? no, legally you're protected.
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And if you get challenged on this,
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First liberty
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And they're one of many,
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There's a lot of great legal groups out there.
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They want to represent and protect
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And defend those teachers.
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But restoring faith in america is the website where.
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And that's for parents. it's for students.
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So if a student feels like, hey, they don't want me to start
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This christian club, or they're telling me
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I can't read my bible or whatever it is,
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Parents, students and teachers, all of them.
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It shows a landscape for education
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Of what legally you can do, of where the line is.
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And maybe sometimes they're like,
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I want to challenge that line.
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We can have that conversation too,
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But you are for sure
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Legally protected on all the things
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That are identified on that website.
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That is so good.
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So we don't have to wait for the supreme court
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To do something or congress to act right.
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We can start at the local level with the influence we have in
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Those places, become informed about what we can do
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And what the places are that will help us.
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If somebody objects, that's wonderful.
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It really is.
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And this is something too, that for a lot of parents,
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I know that sometimes there's frustration.
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We feel like there's time constraints
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And i don't have enough hours in my day.
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I get all that since covid.
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I think a lot of parents have had a bit of an awakening,
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Realizing that we need to be more involved
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Because they're there
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Literally is an ideology, a worldview
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That's very intentional on the other side.
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And so for parents that want to get involved,
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Even if you just start showing up
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At a school board meeting, if you start to get to know
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Who your legislator is, actually, this is a big deal
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Because i know we are about to go to break this.
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I need to wrap this real quick,
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But i would say that for every parent
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You need to learn who is your school board member,
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Who's who's on the school board,
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Who's your city council member, who's on the city council,
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And who's your state legislator is?
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Because the bible actually tells us we're supposed to pray
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For those in positions of authority.
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And if you don't even know
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Who's there, you can't pray for them.
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So already you can't do one of the biblical admonishments.
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But once you get to know them,
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Then you can develop a relationship.
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You might can can find out
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What they're dealing with, they're struggling,
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Or if they're someone that needs to be replaced.
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And if you know they need to be replaced, well,
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Then you can
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Now start a different conversation
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And maybe have some strategy of how that happens to a team.
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We really appreciate your time today.
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We appreciate the update and the work
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You're doing at wallbuilders.
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In a moment, we'll be right back with wrap.
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In a moment, we'll be right back with wrap.
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We were delighted
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To have tim barton with from wallbuilders with us today.
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We were talking about a legislative update
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Of what's happening at the grassroots level
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To to really
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Bring our biblical worldview and freedom
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And liberty into our communities in a whole new way.
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You can get some updates
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If you go to pro family.com and track that for yourself.
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You know, i'm in the habit of saying god
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Is moving in the earth,
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And i get an avalanche of messaging
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Saying where i don't see it.
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Well, you go to pro family.com and you'll get some real world
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Answers for what's happening in the earth.
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Folks, good things are happening.
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Your prayers, they matter.
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If we'll keep turning our hearts
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To the lord, i believe we'll see.
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God bless america again.
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There are more reasons for hope than despair, i promise.
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Pray for wallbuilders pray for tim
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And david barton, their whole organization.
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They're doing good work on our behalf.
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It's an honor to stand with them.
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Good night, and thank you for spending
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A few moments of your day with us. god bless.
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Allen Jackson: Bible in Schools | Allen Jackson Now

July 1, 2026 | 22:30

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