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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Carrying Forward | Allen Jackson Now | December 31, 2025

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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You know, it's been an incredibly busy time
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At turning point usa since charlie kirk was assassinated.
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And as his wife has said since that day,
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Charlie's voice has not been eliminated.
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It's been magnified many times over.
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Erica kirk is now the ceo, as well as the mother
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Of their two young children.
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And andrew calvert.
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Well, he's gone
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From being the behind the scenes
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Executive producer of the charlie kirk show
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To host of the show.
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On top of spokesman for turning point,
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One of the organizers for the recent
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And massive america first 2025, in phoenix.
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Andrew joins us again tonight.
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Welcome back sir.
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It's good to be here, pastor allen.
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It's a it's a pleasure.
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And, you know, thanks for the kind words about amp fest.
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It was it was massive. you you you hit the nail on the head.
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You know, those of us
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Who've been watching and praying,
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You have gone from wearing many hats when charlie was alive
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To wearing even more hats.
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Now that you've stepped into an even bigger leadership
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Role, let's just start by talking
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About how you're doing with so much going on.
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And now that's been
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More than three months since charlie's passing.
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Yeah.
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You know, it was,
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Probably a day or two after charlie was assassinated,
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And i was with erica at the office here,
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And she just looked at me and she said,
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You know, the show has to keep going.
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You know, they tried to silence
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My husband's voice, and we can't let that happen.
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You have to keep the show going.
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And, you know, you're our spokesman
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And you have to be our spokesman.
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And i just said yes, ma'am.
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You know, it.
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We just lost charlie.
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It was a horrible, tragic, horrific moment for the country,
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But especially for erica and for the for the team. and,
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You know, i didn't even have time
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To sort of wrap my brain around
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What that would mean or what that would entail.
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I knew it was going to be difficult.
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I'd seen charlie go through so much
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Behind the scenes that the world never saw
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When he was getting attacked and when he was being criticized.
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You know, in life.
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And, i, i sort of
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Just refused to think that hard about it, to be honest.
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Pastor allen, i just said, you know,
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The lord has me here right now in this moment.
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And i have to say, yes.
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And so
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Here we are, you know, and,
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We we just put one foot in front of the other.
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And i kind of think back to that note that usha vance,
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Gave to erica when, you know, the vice president flew to
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Utah to
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Pick up charlie's body and
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Bring him back to phoenix in the dignified transfer.
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And they were talking on the plane and she told erica,
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You know, it's like that,
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When you're coming down with your kids
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Are crying on the plane, and you just take it
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Every 15 minutes,
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You can get through 15 minutes, you can get through 15 minutes.
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And, you know, i'm blessed to have a really happy marriage.
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My three beautiful kids,
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If i didn't have the family support
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And the support of the team at turning point,
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You know, we're all in this together.
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And so i just do my part.
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And, the team deserves such amazing, amazing.
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Just kudos. accolades.
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They have been heroic in this time.
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You know,
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The fact that we were able to continue on
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With the campus tour, continue on with amp fest, not to mention
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The memorial planning it in about seven days.
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So, that the team is really amazing.
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Charlie. charlie surrounded himself with amazing people.
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I would agree.
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You know,
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We've had the privilege of being friends and
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Watching these last few months.
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You reminded me a lot of the apollo 13 event.
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You know, there was a tragedy,
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And a group of nasa and a group of astronauts
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Had to solve their problems in full view of the whole world.
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And the goal was to get everybody home
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And intact and those families reunited.
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And, i just want to add an affirming voice.
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I think it's been amazing
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How you and the whole turning point crew
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Have worked together under a full view of the world,
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To navigate just a horrific event.
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Keep up the good work
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And thank you.
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Yeah, it means a lot, pastor allen and,
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You've been tremendous as well.
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You know, i know you're praying for us, and i know,
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Candidly, you know, i probably answered
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The question wrong now that i think of it.
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You know,
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I've said it before,
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But it's worth saying again, you know,
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The prayers of strangers have sustained us.
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You know, our friends are praying for us.
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You're praying for us.
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But the whole world, you know, i can't tell you how many people
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Have sent us emails to the show or just randomly
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Got a hold of us some other way and just said,
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Hey, we're praying for you. and, means means the world to us.
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And i know that what god has unleashed,
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You know, man cannot stop.
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And that that includes
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That includes people that wish us harm,
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But that also includes
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Our own incompetence and our own foibles and our own,
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You know,
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Learning on the fly, building the airplane as we're taking off
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Kind of thing.
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So i just know that god's doing a work in
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Our job is to just say, yes and keep showing up.
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Absolutely.
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You know, most people, i suspect,
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Know of turning point through charlie
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And his campus interviews and those videos
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That we all saw on social media.
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But turning point is a complex collection of organizations.
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Turning point faith, turning point action, turning point usa.
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You know, can you just real quickly
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Give us a window into the diversity
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Of what you all are leading and managing this?
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Yeah, no, it's a good question.
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It's a fair question because i do
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Think depending on the person, they sort of see turning point,
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How they will and they don't realize just how,
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Varied the operation is.
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So charlie started turning point usa, the 501
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C3, as a campus activist organization in 2012.
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And that that still
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Is the heartbeat, the drumbeat of what we do.
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And that's, you know, campus activism
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Started chapters on college colleges
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And then eventually we started high school vertical as well.
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And now the high school,
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Portion of it is is much larger than the college,
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Portion of it, because there's just more high schools.
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You go over to the c4 and that's where we actually get
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Involved in elections.
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So that's run by tyler boyer, cio over there.
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And we'll endorse candidates.
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We will primary candidates like we're doing in indiana now
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After the,
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Redistricting battle didn't go the way we wanted it to.
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And so we're we're a grassroots political organization
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Over on turning point action.
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And right now
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We're kind of gearing up for 2028 on that action side
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To build what we call the red wall,
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Because the way that
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The population has moved that in the census has changed, that
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If you go for new hampshire, nevada and arizona
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And you keep the other, you know, southern sunbelt states,
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It doesn't really matter what happens in michigan,
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Pennsylvania and wisconsin.
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They don't have enough votes to win a national race.
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So we're building that machine right now,
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And we're recruiting thousands
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Of volunteers and staff gearing up for 2026 and 2028.
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I mean, there's there's many things.
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And then that's not even to mention the work
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At the charlie kirk show, which is a separate entity.
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It's not a it's not legally a part of turning point
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As a business.
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Charlie and i started, but it's, you know, it
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Sort of plays a role in messaging and, and keeping,
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You know, the, the message flow, out.
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It keeps that running.
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So it's an important piece
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Of the whole overall pie, i guess you could say.
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Yeah, when i listen to you
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And think about it, i know i'm laughing.
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You know, i know you do a lot, pastor allen.
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You got a lot going on over there.
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And we have a great team,
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And we we're over,
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You know, around a thousand
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Employees across all those entities.
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So there's a lot of great people doing a lot of great work.
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That's awesome.
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You know,
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I assume turning
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Point is surpassed a lot of the goals
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That you and charlie had in mind.
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Erica just announced that the campus
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Events are going to continue in the new year.
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You're going to need some pretty big arenas
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With the size of the crowds that have been showing up.
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Tell us what you can about what you planned so far for 2026.
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Yeah, so we're
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We're calling it the pick up the mic tour.
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And we're going to be, you know,
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Heading back out to college campuses.
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We're actually going to be doing, prove me wrong.
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So we're going to invite friends,
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That want really want to
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Be a part of these,
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You know,
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I wasn't sure that people were going to want to go back out
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And be a part of prove me wrong
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After what happened with charlie.
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But it just is a testament
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To what he's inspired in people, that we were inundated
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By prominent people that want to go back out
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And do exactly that and, and, share their ideas, debate ideas.
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If you disagree, come to the front of the line,
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Type of format.
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So we're going to be hitting that, in the, spring semester
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2026, as a matter of fact, that starts in january.
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And we're also going to be doing through tp, usa faith.
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We're going to be,
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The make heaven crowded tour, which is going to be a tent
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Revival style tour going all across the country.
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We're starting,
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I believe, with greg laurie's church in southern california,
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And we're taking that all across the country,
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And we want to take, you know, as erica said, a slice.
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We saw a slice of heaven at charlie's memorial
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Where you can just feel the holy spirit.
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You can feel hearts and minds turning to jesus.
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I mean, that event alone was seen,
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Hundreds of millions of times.
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We believe it's probably over a billion, actually.
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When when all said and done,
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All the clipping and all of that stuff.
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So, you know, it was it was an amazing moment to be
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There in, in the venue where, like i said, you could just feel
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The holy spirit humming
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Like a tuning fork, as one person put it.
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And, we want to take that
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Slice of heaven and take it on the road
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And make sure that,
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That charlie, his legacy is a legacy of courage for his faith.
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And we want to take that, that faith out on the road
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And take it to where people who couldn't
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Make it to the memorial or want a second dose of it,
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Can experience it in person.
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So that's that's our spring.
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Our spring, lineup.
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I know it's hard to keep up with the growing number
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Of colleges and high schools that want to start chapters.
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It clearly looks as though young people took charlie's word
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That you're never too young to make a difference.
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This is how erica explained it to them. first,
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If charlie listened
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To every single person that told him,
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You're too young to make a difference,
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You don't have enough connections,
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You're not going to do it.
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He would have let that noise consume him,
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And he would not have built
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The machine that he has built today.
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So don't you dare let anyone tell you you're too young,
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You're not smart enough, and you're not connected enough.
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As long as you're a part of turning point usa,
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We will empower you and give whatever
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You need to be able to make that come to life.
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You know?
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Good for her to make clear what charlie said.
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So how are you going to go about opening
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All these new chapters and meeting the demand that's
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Coming from all the high schools especially?
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Yeah.
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I mean, people don't understand how much goes into
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Getting a registered student organization
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On, college, our high school campus.
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I mean, you got to get
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You got identify the students, which
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Thankfully
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We have hundreds of thousands of, you know, 140,000 applicant
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Applications, people inquiring to start a chapter,
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And then you got to find a, somebody to get behind the,
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The chapter, like a teacher or administrator.
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And then you got to fill out the paperwork
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And you got to go to the committee meetings,
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And you got to do all the all the things,
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Mark, all of us as we are right
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Now, on pace, pastor allen, at 50 new chapters a day.
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And we've been sustaining that pace for about two months.
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And so every, every day we start 50 new high school
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Or college chapters and i pretty
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I on the college level,
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We basically maxed out what you can do at the college level.
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So most of those new chapters
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Are going to be high school chapters.
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And the other thing that i think people don't appreciate
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Enough as well is,
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You know, we might have had a chapter
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At some of these schools and it might have been for kids,
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You know, they couldn't get any traction.
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And now we had some chapters that were huge and very vibrant.
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We had some chapters that were struggling.
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Almost all of the chapters are starting
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With a dozen, two dozen, three dozen, 5000 students.
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I mean, we get these stories and it's just massive,
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The massive amount
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Of of young people that are gathering
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To be a part of the chapter meetings.
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They come together, share ideas, host guest speakers,
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They go out and do barbecues, community service events.
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They, stream films or content that we we send them.
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So it's a massive,
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Massive deal to see this many young people
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Flocking to the conservative movement,
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To patriotism and to to faith all at once
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At a turning point chapter.
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And the amount of community
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Support has been tremendous as well.
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But yeah, we're drinking through a fire hose, there's no doubt.
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And, you know, our field team also runs the campus tours,
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Which again, i just want to say that
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After charlie was assassinated,
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They knew that charlie would want us to keep doing it.
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And it was just we all kind of knew this.
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We had this knowing that charlie would want us
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To keep doing the work.
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And so they set out on that, that campus tour
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With you know, jd vance and so many others.
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And it was massive. it was massive.
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Tens of thousands attended, huge arenas all over the country.
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And, so not only do they have these tours to,
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To produce and organize, but they have to start
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All these chapters all across the country.
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But they've been up to the task.
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And yeah, we are expanding
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As we can with, with staffing, certainly as needed.
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But we are all grateful for the hard work of your entire team.
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Andrew, we need to take a short break.
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I hope you can stay with us for another segment.
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Of course,
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If you'd like to send your thoughts
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About what's next for turning point,
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You can send them to me at aj now.com.
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We'll read them all and we'll address them
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On a future program.
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I'll be right back.
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I'll be right back.
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And we're back now with a turning point
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Spokesperson and the executive producer
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Of the charlie kirk show, andrew corvette.
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Andrew, i know i am fest is probably your biggest event
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Of the year.
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It was enormous.
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This year made some headlines
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On both sides of the political divide.
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But i'm sure you anticipated the public debate
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On what some of your big gun guests had to say.
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So tell our viewers
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How you embraced charlie's idea of open debate
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And what came of it when they were finished
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Sharing a variety of opinions?
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Yeah, i mean,
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I thought charlie would have would have been very proud
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Because, you know, there's a lot of pressure
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When you have the convening power
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Of turning point to bring over, bring together
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Those that many people
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From that many different slices of the conservative movement.
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It's a big responsibility.
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But, you know, some people want you to do less of this.
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They want to do more of this. and everybody's got an opinion.
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And charlie worked really hard to make sure
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That and fast and turning point remained a platform and a stage
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For the big tent of the movement to gather.
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And so my message was, was simply
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Let it play out, let it play out.
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Do not fear the debate.
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There's going to be people with different,
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Differing opinions about a wide variety of topics,
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Whether that's the legalization of weed
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Or the nation of israel or whatever.
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How we should do,
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Online discourse.
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I mean, that those are valid debates.
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They're raging online and in person.
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And i think charlie always wanted to invest in turning
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Point more, more broadly, to be a place
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Where those voices can feel welcome
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And know they have a place, know that they're friends with us
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And know that it's okay to disagree.
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And, you know, i always say conservatives are a rowdy bunch.
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We're not hive minded, collectivist communist.
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We are going to disagree
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And we're going to do it probably loudly.
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And that's okay.
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That's what makes conservatives,
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I think, intellectually vibrant.
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That's what makes the movement worth following.
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And i say to people as well,
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If if you try to force down consensus on these issues
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Without having the public debate,
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The consensus would be worthless.
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It would be, young people especially would call,
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Call that,
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You know, a fake or phony consensus
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And they would probably run the other way.
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So you got to have this stuff out in public and,
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And sometimes you got to deal with a little family business.
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And to the extent that people are able just.
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I know it can be uncomfortable, let it play out.
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And, you just you want something like that
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At an fest as opposed to,
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You know, a bunch of different venues
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That might not be as well rounded or have as many voices
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That would be able to confront it from the other perspective.
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So, i embrace it, we embrace it.
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And i think that's what charlie always wanted.
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And, you know, we just, you know, charlie said it in life.
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He said he wasn't
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Going to be morally blackmailed into canceling, certain people.
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And i know that that's,
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That is what it is, and and we embrace that. and.
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Yeah, you're right.
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There was a lot of headlines made. certainly.
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Well, i think you modeled something
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That's really important
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And that's that
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In in a diversity of opinion stated in public,
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We have a chance to engage in a dialog
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That gets us to a better place.
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It's a necessary part of moving forward.
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I appreciate your courage on that.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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And i think you end up in a healthier place in the end.
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And i'd be i'd rather be having these debates
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In december of 2025 than august or september of 2026.
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So it's good
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We got to get this out of the way.
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We got to deal with it
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And, hopefully we can move on stronger.
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I agree, we need to take a short break.
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I hope you'll stay with us for just one more segment.
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Yes, sir.
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Of course.
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Of course.
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We're back with andrew kovat.
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Andrew, not only are young men and women
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Trying to start turning point chapters around the country,
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They're also
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Coming out in big numbers to church services and revivals.
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Where do you think that's coming from and why now?
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Yeah, i mean, we started to
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See a little bit of that even before charlie was assassinated.
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And it's
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I it's one of the things i'm most pleased that he got to see.
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He got to see young men really come around,
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Embrace marriage, embrace starting a family.
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And he got to see church attendance start to kind of
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Slope back in the right direction.
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And then of course,
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When everything happened with charlie,
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I think it was just so shocking to the conscience.
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It was so it was so,
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Hard to watch.
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What happened to him?
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It was so public.
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I think it just cut so many people to the core,
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And it made them reassess their priorities in life.
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And it was an acknowledgment that charlie had something
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In his spirit about him, about his character
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That was so attractive.
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It was the aroma of christ, and you could see it in the way
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He enthusiastically embraced debate and the way he lived,
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With erica and his children, the father and husband
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He was, the way that he ran turning point usa,
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This eternal optimism that came from this
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Wellspring of his faith in jesus christ.
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And when you see that and you see a life so vibrant,
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Cut down and but used so mightily by god,
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You know, where where we had every right to be outraged
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And you know, had the shoe
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Been on the other foot,
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We probably would have seen riots and burning and looting.
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But we didn't.
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We saw vigils,
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We saw prayer circles, and we saw a memorial
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That that proclaim the gospel to, you know, more people in one
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Live event than i think in the entirety of human history.
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And so this this was a moment that, that made people reassess.
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And young people who loved charlie the most.
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I think this was their jfk moment.
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This is the moment that they'll never forget
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Where they were when they heard the news.
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And, you know, some estimates have church
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Attendance up 15% across the country.
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And that that is the charlie kirk effect.
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And that's exactly the legacy charlie would want.
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I know that if if he would have imagined
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This type of outpouring of love and support and faith
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In the wake of his death, he would have just been
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Absolutely floored and gobsmacked and, and,
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You know, it brings me a lot of joy
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That i got to be so close to him over the last eight years
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And to know no what he was building, no what he was driving
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Towards and to see, that legacy, you know,
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Come manifest fully in church attendance and faith
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With young people. and i hope it continues.
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I believe it will. amen.
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Well, andrew calvert, thank you for your time today.
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Charlie is surely proud of how you've picked up the assignments
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And had it together with erica.
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You're not just moving forward,
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You're spreading the good word and doing
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Precisely what charlie envisioned.
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We're here for you.
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Well, thank you, pastor allen.
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It means a lot.
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And, it's an honor to be with you and to be in the,
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Be in the foxhole with you, sir.
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So thank you so much.
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Well, in a moment, there's lots of hope ahead
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As we witness the turning point advantage.
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We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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Just a reminder, if you ever miss
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An episode live, you can always go to aj.
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Now.com.
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There's a full archive
00:20:30.962 --> 00:20:32.564
You can see any program at your leisure.
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They're easy to share with a friend.
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You know we discussed something
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Difficult today charlie kirk's assassination.
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I want to be certain we don't forget
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God is moving in the earth.
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His purposes are being pushed forward.
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Not always easy.
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Sometimes we have to overcome disappointment.
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But keep your heart focused on what god is doing.
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There is hope.
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I'm alan jackson, and you have a good evening.
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