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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Case Timeline | Allen Jackson Now | April 28, 2026
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- For the third time in just two years.
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- President trump has been targeted for assassination.
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- And what's driving it?
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- Well, the democratic leadership and their media echo chamber.
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- Chuck schumer, for one,
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- Who says the president is pushing an evil scheme.
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- Hakeem jeffries, who says the president
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- Is morally demented, a dangerous human being
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- Who must be forcefully pushed back.
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- And bernie sanders, well, he said trump's
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- Reelection is an existential threat.
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- Hateful rhetoric repeated over and over.
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- And then unstable people
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- In all corners of our country who are able to act on it.
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- Speaker johnson says it's critical that they stop.
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- I mean, you have,
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- Some of the most prominent figures in the house
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- And the senate on the democrat side,
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- Effectively, you know, calling for for, for war.
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- I mean, they use that those kinds of metaphors.
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- And it incites violence because there are crazy
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- People in society and they get radicalized online.
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- And so we've got to recognize
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- That it's time to turn down the rhetoric,
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- Indeed,
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- Turn it down and then stop the no king's rallies
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- That wealthy progressives are funding
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- To drive the hate for the tv cameras.
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- There's no such thing as a truly organic protest.
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- Lawrence,
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- Everybody has a reason for
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- Being somewhere, whether they're flexing on
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- Instagram, flexing for politics or a staffer,
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- Or being compensated.
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- You know, one other point worth remembering
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- The protesters are getting paid to pose for the cameras.
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- But the democrats have refused
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- To pay the secret service for more than ten weeks now.
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- It's shockingly bad behavior, and it's dangerous as well.
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- You know, deception is escalating.
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- Violence is escalating.
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- Evil is being celebrated.
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- There are enormous attempts
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- To normalize the most perverse behavior.
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- And we're told it will happen in the scripture.
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- In jesus most lengthy prophetic discourse,
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- One of the signs jesus gave
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- Was that human character would begin to deteriorate,
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- And that lawlessness would increase.
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- We see spiritual forces of darkness expressed
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- With increasing boldness and frequency in very tangible ways.
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- In december of 2024, the united healthcare ceo
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- Was walking on his way to a medical conference
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- In manhattan
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- When luigi maggio and he brazenly shot and killed him.
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- The murder was clearly caught on video,
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- With no ambiguity as to the atrocity that took place.
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- Yet a popular narrative is that the insurance ceo deserved
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- What happened to him
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- Because the insurance company was ripping people off.
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- No, murder is evil, and it should be punished
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- To the fullest extent of the law.
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- It's straightforward.
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- Another talking point that's gaining
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- Steam is that corporations steal all the time.
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- So now people are encouraging micro looting,
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- Which is a trendy new term for stealing from big companies.
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- One famous podcaster celebrated going into whole foods
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- And stealing small things as a form of anti-capitalist protest,
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- In a way
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- To stick it to billionaire jeff bezos, who owns whole foods.
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- Folks, it's lawlessness.
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- We even have mayors of major cities
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- Pushing for the role of law enforcement
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- To be diminished and set aside.
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- There's actual hatred directed
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- At them, instigated by our elected officials.
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- We have elected officials escalating lawlessness
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- Even in their own communities.
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- They push to defund the police, to completely eradicate ice,
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- To be a sanctuary for people who are here illegally.
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- That's not an accident.
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- That's a trend.
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- God's protection was upon president trump
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- And the administration
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- Officials who were in attendance, and the
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- White house correspondents association dinner.
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- I'm grateful for that.
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- But shortly after that incident, i watched the news
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- For just a few minutes.
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- And in that brief window of time,
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- I saw a collection of talking heads on mainstream media
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- Saying the attack.
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- It was trump's fault that his rhetoric is mean.
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- These so-called experts, they blamed him, the intended victim.
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- It's bizarre.
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- How many attempts on president trump's life
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- Will it take for mainstream media
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- To start treating an attack on the leader of the free world
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- With the weightiness and seriousness that it deserves?
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- Imagine if that had happened to president obama
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- When he was in office.
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- I venture to say
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- There would have been a very different response
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- From the media,
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- And the cities would be turned upside down with protest
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- Just days before the shooting at the correspondents dinner.
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- Late night host jimmy kimmel mocked
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- President trump and first lady melania trump in a parody,
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- Calling mulaney and, i quote, an expectant widow.
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- We have celebrities, influential people,
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- Powerful voices calling evil good and good evil.
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- I'm here to tell you it's wicked.
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- They're not appropriate responses.
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- Unfortunately, i have witnessed too many christians
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- Wrap themselves in the garments of tolerance and kindness.
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- Well, they say trump is mean, he's
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- Nasty and his language is inappropriate.
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- We make little social media videos condemning trump.
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- But where are all the videos
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- From christians about jimmy kimmel?
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- Why are we expressing outrage over his wicked statement?
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- It's unacceptable to me.
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- Evil is being celebrated.
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- There are enormous attempts to normalize the most perverse
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- Behavior into the youngest amongst us.
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- Our culture is plummeting into the abyss.
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- And we use the church.
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- Have been distracted by secondary issues long enough.
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- We must use our voices
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- When we see something that is patently evil.
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- We can't be silent and act like we don't notice.
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- We become so intimidated by the pressure of the culture
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- That we won't say the truth, that we all know and understand.
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- We pretend that if we don't notice
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- And we use kind language, the evil will just relent.
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- Well, there's nothing in human history
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- That suggest that to be true.
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- We must have a determination that is equal to or greater
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- Than our adversary.
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- Or we're surrendering.
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- As christians, if we'll use our voices,
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- We can give some courage to the broader public.
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- So what are the next legal steps
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- In the most recent attempts on the president's life?
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- Well, in a moment, we'll hear from the former
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- Federal prosecutor,
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- John malcolm, at advancing american freedom.
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- He's the vice president of the institute for the rule of law.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- Well, president trump has certainly gotten a lot done
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- In just 15 months, despite full time opposition by schumer
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- And jeffries, who only know how to push resistance.
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- Well, john malcolm is a former federal prosecutor,
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- And he's joining us now from washington.
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- Welcome back, sir.
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- Good to be with you, alan.
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- Let's begin with the charges against the california teacher
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- Who tried and failed to shoot the president
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- And members of his administration.
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- He wrote a long manifesto prior to the attack.
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- He attended the no. king's rally.
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- Given the weapons he was carrying.
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- Is this a case where they can put him away for life?
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- Oh, yes, they certainly will.
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- I mean, this is
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- I mean, you never want to say it's like shooting
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- Fish in a barrel or a completely open and shut
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- Case, but, you know, here's a guy who was apprehended,
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- In the act.
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- He shot a secret service agent who, unfortunately,
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- Was wearing a vest that stopped the bullet.
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- He was carrying two, you know, two guns and knives.
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- And he sent out a manifesto, essentially confessing
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- To the crime moments before he, he did it.
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- So this should be a fairly open and shut case.
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- And no matter how you slice it, attempting to kill
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- A president is very serious business.
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- And he should be put away for the rest of his life.
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- Do you have any sense of how much people like
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- This shooter are driven by the daily
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- Anti-trump commentary that's being fed to the country
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- From the top of the democratic party on down?
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- Hard to say.
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- I mean, there are certainly very, very passionate people,
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- Those who love donald trump and those who hate him.
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- I think trump derangement syndrome is real.
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- And there are people who have disturbed minds.
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- You usually don't think of them as being teachers.
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- And caltech, educated engineers.
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- But yes, who who believe that somehow they are
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- Saving the country by doing a despicable act.
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- They are unhinged.
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- And no doubt, the hatred that is being spewed towards,
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- Towards the president feeds that.
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- Well, as you know, the attempt took place at the same hotel
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- Where john hinckley tried to kill president reagan.
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- Hinckley got a not guilty by reason of insanity,
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- Never spent a single day in jail.
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- And he did spend 30 years in a psychiatric hospital.
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- But carl allen has an engineering degree
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- And was a teacher. no history of mental illness.
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- So can this case be concluded in short order?
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- I think it would help send the message
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- That the country needs to hear.
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- Well, i don't know.
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- It will be concluded in short order.
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- He's going to file various motions.
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- I have no idea what they would be.
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- I mean, he has no there were no searches
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- Or seizures that were conducted.
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- By the way, i live about a three minute walk
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- From the washington, hilton where i am right now.
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- So i'm in that hotel often and passed by that hotel, often.
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- And, you know, here's a 31 year old caltech educated
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- Teacher who wrote a crazy but cogent manifesto.
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- He is certainly not going to be able to claim,
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- That he was, you know, driven by insanity.
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- John hinckley, of course, said that he he attempted
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- To kill president reagan to impress jodie foster.
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- And, you know, he ended up being found
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- Not guilty by reason of insanity and,
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- As you say, spending decades in saint elizabeths.
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- That is that defense is not going to be available for allen.
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- You know, there should be a lot of shame,
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- But is there any liability
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- In the politicians who have been pushing
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- The angry resistance towards president trump?
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- There should be shame.
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- Some people lack a sense of shame.
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- No, it's certainly not going to be any consequences
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- In terms of, you know, criminal prosecutions.
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- They should be thrown out of office,
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- And shamed for for their conduct.
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- You know, i doubt it.
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- Probably these are politicians from deep blue jurisdictions
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- Who, sadly, will,
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- Receive praise from the vast majority of their constituents
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- And probably handily win when reelection.
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- But, the rhetoric is, is horrible.
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- It has no place in a,
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- In a polite society, and they should be condemned for it.
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- Well, if cole allen is linked to the well-funded
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- No kings organizers,
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- Could his lawyers try to argue
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- That he was brainwashed by political ideology
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- Rather than trying to commit an assassination?
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- My i'll
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- Say, even if you watch brainwashed,
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- A political ideology,
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- He certainly did attempted assassination.
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- And he knew exactly what it was that he was doing.
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- He even went so far in
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- His manifesto to say, well, i'm going to target, the president
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- And his cabinet on down, but not cash patel.
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- I have no idea why he excluded, kash patel from his list
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- Of potential assassination targets.
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- He may say, look, forgive me.
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- I was a bright guy, who was fueled to hatred
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- By, by all of these left wing organizations.
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- But that is certainly not
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- Going to save him from being prosecuted and convicted,
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- And it should have no effect on his sentence whatsoever.
- 00:11:17.439 --> 00:11:20.876
- You know, social media has provided a new voice
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- And an amplified voice in the public square.
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- How much do you think that that social media voice
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- Is driving some of this behavior?
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- Oh, look,
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- Given the amount of time that people spend on
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- Social media and and listening in echo chambers, social media
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- Drives extreme behavior on both the right and the left.
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- And as i say, most people can at least listen to it
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- Whether they should or not, and put it in some kind of context.
- 00:11:47.169 --> 00:11:51.273
- Most people don't have unhinged minds who say essentially,
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- Oh my god, this guy is the equivalent
- 00:11:55.510 --> 00:11:57.279
- Of hitler, and i've got to kill him.
- 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:59.147
- But there are people like that,
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- Out there, and they are dangerous.
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- And unfortunately, this person got
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- Pretty close to the president.
- 00:12:05.020 --> 00:12:07.055
- You know, we're all breathing
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- A sigh of relief at the failed attempt.
- 00:12:08.056 --> 00:12:10.659
- There wasn't very many
- 00:12:10.659 --> 00:12:11.927
- Months ago that we lost charlie kirk to an assassin's bullet.
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- How do we walk back this polarized environment
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- Where violence seems to be too ready of a solution?
- 00:12:19.634 --> 00:12:24.506
- Very hard to say.
- 00:12:24.940 --> 00:12:26.675
- Because we are closely divided country and social media,
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- And even to some degree the mainstream
- 00:12:31.012 --> 00:12:32.681
- Media plays to the extremes.
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- And there are people out there who are hell
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- Bent on, on violence.
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- It is it is terrible.
- 00:12:40.422 --> 00:12:42.224
- I think in terms of overheated rhetoric, both sides,
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- Have engaged in that, certainly in terms of political violence.
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- There are instances
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- In which people on the right have done that.
- 00:12:50.031 --> 00:12:51.566
- But there are a lot of instances, people on the left
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- Just ask, you know, steve scalise,
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- And eric kirk about, about that.
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- Hard to walk it back.
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- I certainly hope that instances like this shock people
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- Into a better sense of civility, but sometimes it doesn't.
- 00:13:06.114 --> 00:13:10.418
- Sometimes it fuels people to sit there
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- And say, we'll get them next time.
- 00:13:12.053 --> 00:13:13.655
- And that is, that's a horrible development.
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- It is.
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- We need to take a short break.
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- Can you stay for another segment?
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- I certainly can.
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- Well, now's the time for those of you
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- Watching to jump on to aj now.com and send me an email.
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- You can see in that animation just how easy it is to do.
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- I'll be right back.
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- And we're back now with a former federal prosecutor,
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- John malcolm.
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- You know, it's judge, not just the no kings organizers
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- And the democrats who are pushing hate speech.
- 00:13:52.185 --> 00:13:54.588
- It's also coming from
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- One of the biggest organizations in the country
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- That was supposedly fighting racism.
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- The southern poverty law center, the justice department has
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- Just indicted
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- The splc for driving racism rather than eliminating it.
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- 11 counts of wire and bank fraud for weaponizing hate.
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- Have you ever seen anything like this?
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- No i haven't.
- 00:14:17.678 --> 00:14:19.980
- These are very serious charges.
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- Something the southern poverty law center
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- When it started in 1971.
- 00:14:23.550 --> 00:14:25.419
- Back then, there was a, i won't say robust,
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- But the ku klux klan was sort of a real a real thing.
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- They were an esteemed organization.
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- But as those extreme right,
- 00:14:34.394 --> 00:14:36.897
- You know, those extreme groups, orientations who courts, klan
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- Have, have faded dramatically, thank god.
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- They've taken on now all sorts
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- Of other perfectly legitimate organizations
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- Like family research council, alliance
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- Defending freedom, moms for liberty.
- 00:14:49.943 --> 00:14:52.646
- And here you have, you know, charges that from 2014
- 00:14:52.646 --> 00:14:57.884
- Until 2023, they were paying over $3 million
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- To the very people they were supposed to be
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- Stopping, and raising money off of that.
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- I mean, it's a little bit like, you know,
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- If you were a fire department trying to raise funds,
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- And you went out and set up on of fires
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- In order to be able to point
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- And say, see how bad the problem is? give us money.
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- I mean, you
- 00:15:20.540 --> 00:15:21.775
- You're you're paying the klan wizard of the ku klux klan.
- 00:15:21.775 --> 00:15:23.744
- They were paying $270,000 to a guy who was acting under
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- Their supervision, according to the indictment, to advertise
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- For the unite the right rally and drive people to it.
- 00:15:31.718 --> 00:15:35.555
- You know, that ended up turning violent.
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- Somebody got killed and 19 people got injured.
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- It's really rather remarkable.
- 00:15:39.993 --> 00:15:42.863
- You know, their
- 00:15:42.863 --> 00:15:43.797
- Their explanation and say, well,
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- We we were paying informants because
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- They have valuable information.
- 00:15:47.167 --> 00:15:48.969
- And now that's all true.
- 00:15:48.969 --> 00:15:51.271
- But that's the kind of conduct that is done by,
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- You know, federal and state law enforcement agencies
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- Who are operating under statutes and guidelines,
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- And are overseen by elected
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- And appointed law enforcement officials at the highest level.
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- And these people were trying to set up their own organization
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- And ended up
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- Fueling the very thing that they were telling their donors they
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- Were trying to stop.
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- Well, you mentioned the
- 00:16:16.329 --> 00:16:17.531
- Incident in charlottesville, virginia, in 2017.
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- It was a rally called unite the right
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- And the splc paid people to stoke the violence, so much
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- So that one person was killed and many more injured.
- 00:16:27.207 --> 00:16:29.876
- What happened became a rallying cry
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- For joe biden's presidential campaign.
- 00:16:31.678 --> 00:16:34.047
- Listen to his comments.
- 00:16:34.047 --> 00:16:36.216
- Close your eyes.
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- Remember what those people look like coming
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- Out of the fields carrying torches, their veins bulging,
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- Feuding, just spewing anti-semitic bile
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- And accompanied by the ku klux klan.
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- The young woman got killed
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- And they asked the president what he thought.
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- He said there were very fine people on both sides.
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- Famous, quote, there are very fine people on both sides.
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- That's when i knew.
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- And i'm not joking.
- 00:17:00.740 --> 00:17:03.543
- That's when i knew i had to stay engaged
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- And get back into public life.
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- He said i think that fine people on both sides.
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- What american president, whatever,
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- Say, nazis coming out of fields carrying torches, singing the
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- Same anti-semitic bile, carrying swastikas or fine people.
- 00:17:17.090 --> 00:17:22.195
- This is a guy who says hitler has done some good things,
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- But biden certainly got a lot of mileage out of what happened.
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- And now this indictment seems rock solid
- 00:17:29.102 --> 00:17:31.338
- Because the details were taken from bank records,
- 00:17:31.338 --> 00:17:33.840
- Absolute numbers of how they moved money to create incidents,
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- To try to make it look like republicans are racist.
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- You think the splc is doomed?
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- I think their reputation is severely damaged.
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- I mean, look, this is an organization
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- That has, i believe, well, in excess of $100 million,
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- Probably several hundred million dollars.
- 00:17:51.691 --> 00:17:53.260
- So this is, you know, this would not kill them financially,
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- But it will certainly
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- If these allegations prove to be true,
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- And it appears to be a pretty solid case
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- Based on the allegations in the indictment,
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- It's going to damage their reputations severely,
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- As it should.
- 00:18:06.773 --> 00:18:08.041
- People should say, oh my god, they should think about,
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- You know, who they've been giving money to.
- 00:18:10.177 --> 00:18:12.546
- The money that they were donating to go after,
- 00:18:12.546 --> 00:18:15.782
- You know, people like the grand wizard of klan
- 00:18:15.782 --> 00:18:18.084
- Were being used to pay a grand wizard of the ku klux klan.
- 00:18:18.084 --> 00:18:20.687
- They literally posted pictures of some of the people
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- Named in this indictment
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- Saying, give us money so we can go after this person.
- 00:18:25.492 --> 00:18:28.461
- And it turned out what they were doing was paying that person.
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- The other thing that it will stop,
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- I believe,
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- As it should, is that there are a lot of organizations,
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- Some leftist, but some banks and other,
- 00:18:38.838 --> 00:18:41.374
- You know, other organizations that look at the splc quote
- 00:18:41.374 --> 00:18:44.711
- Unquote hate list, and will deny funds to those organizations.
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- Well, you know,
- 00:18:50.617 --> 00:18:51.785
- I won't say it's the pot calling the kettle black.
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- We some of the organizations,
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- The splc, targeted are by no means hate groups.
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- I named some of them, but nobody should pay any attention
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- To who the splc labels as a hate group.
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- Well, one last question before we run out of time.
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- The initial justice department
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- Investigation was stopped during biden's term in office.
- 00:19:13.039 --> 00:19:16.309
- What does that tell us about whether they worked together
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- To push this made up anger at president trump?
- 00:19:18.778 --> 00:19:22.449
- Well, i don't know whether it says anything about that.
- 00:19:22.449 --> 00:19:24.551
- What it certainly says, though, is that they had no interest
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- In targeting an organization that they viewed to be an ally.
- 00:19:27.287 --> 00:19:31.424
- All the information was there.
- 00:19:31.424 --> 00:19:33.093
- This was activity that the splc says that it stopped in 2023.
- 00:19:33.093 --> 00:19:36.963
- Obviously, it was under,
- 00:19:36.963 --> 00:19:38.798
- Investigation by the biden administration
- 00:19:38.798 --> 00:19:40.934
- For whatever reason, they dropped it.
- 00:19:40.934 --> 00:19:43.136
- That does not speak well to the justice department
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- As it was being run during the biden administration.
- 00:19:46.506 --> 00:19:49.276
- Well, john, thank you for your time today.
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- Let's stay in touch as these cases progress.
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- My pleasure. good being with you.
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- Have you ever noticed
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- How all the focus on elections
- 00:20:28.108 --> 00:20:29.743
- Is typically put on the general election by the voters?
- 00:20:29.743 --> 00:20:33.047
- What they don't realize is that voting in the primary
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- Is just as important, if not more so.
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- Would you agree?
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- I would agree that we are in the midst of primary season
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- Here in middle tennessee,
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- And typically so few people vote participate.
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- Currently in our community, it's less than 5%
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- That a handful of votes
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- Literally makes the difference in the candidates
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- That make it to the general election.
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- One of the best things you can
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- Do is not be angry, but participate in the process
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- And don't hide behind.
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- I don't know enough about the candidates.
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- Do a little works with a little time.
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- Talk to some people.
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- Prepare yourself and then participate.
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- It makes a tremendous difference.
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- I had a post provided by josh.
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- He said you mentioned the rise in anti-semitism
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- And that you continue to get questions
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- About israel from people who are facing questions
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- I wondered if you have a recommended resource or a place
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- People can go to find answers to their questions?
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