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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: China Pipeline | Allen Jackson Now | March 19, 2026
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- The headlines are all about iran, israel
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- And the united states.
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- But there's another player that has a substantial
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- Role in the war, and i'm talking about china.
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- You know, iran has a lot of oil,
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- But it's never had much in the way of high tech.
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- Well,
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- China has all sorts of high tech,
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- But it's always been short of oil.
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- So the ayatollah paired up with z.
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- Jinping and the chinese communist,
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- And they both got what they wanted,
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- Including trying to dominate the united states.
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- Well, all was well until president trump came along.
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- And now he's thrown a big wrinkle into their plans.
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- Today, iran is being taken apart and china is watching from
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- Afar, not wanting to be seen as helping the troublemakers.
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- Not only have the chinese lost the oil from iran,
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- But they've also lost the oil
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- They were buying on the cheap from venezuela.
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- Well, as for iran,
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- They now have zero chance of developing nuclear weapons.
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- But when he was a senator back from florida, marco
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- Rubio predicted what would happen if obama's
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- Nuclear deal with iran went through.
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- Listen to what he said back then.
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- I do want to be recorded for history's purposes
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- Before i know what was going to happen in regards to this.
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- If it goes through.
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- Iran will immediately
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- Use the money that it's receiving and sanctions relief
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- To begin to build up its conventional capabilities.
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- They'll also work with other terrorist groups
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- In the region to target american servicemen and women.
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- Well, rubio was exactly right.
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- And do you remember this warning
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- Sign during benjamin netanyahu's u.n.
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- Speech
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- Showing just how close iran was to producing a nuclear weapon?
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- The world should be grateful that they never
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- Got to light the fuze.
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- You know, as the war in iran continues,
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- More is being revealed
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- Regarding the ties between the authoritarian states
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- Alliances between iran, china, russia and north korea.
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- Reports suggest the iranians are requesting intelligence
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- Assistance from russia and china in order to target u.s.
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- Troops in the middle east.
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- You know, even though diminishing
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- The evil regime in iran is clearly in the best
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- Interest of the global community,
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- Why are china and russia so open to helping them?
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- North korea has been a key
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- Supplier of missile technology to iran for decades,
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- And both have maintained friendly diplomatic relations
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- Since the islamic revolution in 1979.
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- Why is iran so willing to cozy up to these
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- Authoritarian nations like china, russia, north korea,
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- Even though they have very different ideologies?
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- Well, one thing
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- They all have in common is they view human life as cheap.
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- The late ayatollah in iran was a murderous, evil person
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- Over the last few months, tens of thousands of iranian
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- People were murdered under his direction.
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- You got to let that sink in for a moment.
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- Tens of thousands of his own people,
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- When communism came to the russian people,
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- Tens of millions of people died.
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- Lenin and stalin butchered,
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- Terrorized, and murderous people,
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- All in the name of giving something to the people.
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- But what they actually gave to
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- The people was a reign of oppression.
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- The ukraine war started by putin.
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- Well, it's caused millions of people
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- To endure tremendous suffering and death
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- And have churning
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- Through the lives of hundreds of thousands of russians
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- And ukrainian troops weren't enough.
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- Recent reports indicate deceptive recruitment
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- Tactics by the russian agents in africa,
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- Which have caused nigerian men looking for employment
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- To suddenly find themselves on the front line, untrained and
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- Unable to survive.
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- Open doors, an organization that raises awareness
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- Of christian persecution around the world.
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- Well, they've ranked north korea as the number one
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- Most dangerous country for christians.
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- The regime considers christianity
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- An existential threat in north korea.
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- Owning a bible can cost you your life
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- Or send your entire family to a labor camp in china.
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- Churches are monitored, pastors detained,
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- And only state approved religion is allowed.
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- Credible, credible reports are coming out
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- That in china, prisoners
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- Have their blood tested and tissue typed every year.
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- It's all a part of a state run organ harvesting
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- Program on a massive scale.
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- Well, even though these authoritarian,
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- Oppressive regimes have different
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- Religions, the spirit in all of these places
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- Is in opposition to a biblical worldview.
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- They have a blatant disregard for human life, for human
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- Rights.
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- They have a disregard for diversity or tolerance.
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- They rule with a very heavy hand.
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- You see, there's a spirit that binds that together,
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- And the politics emerge from that spiritual base.
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- Politics is merely a symptomatic,
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- While the spiritual
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- Forces behind it, they are causal to the behavior.
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- That's why it's essential that the church in america
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- And the church and every nation for that matter,
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- Stay engaged in the public square.
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- Otherwise, we end up with oppression
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- Like what we're seeing in these authoritarian countries.
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- When the church steps back from presenting
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- The biblical worldview and shaping culture,
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- It creates a vacuum.
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- And when we withdraw, something else
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- Will always move in to fill that space.
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- The problem is that as christians,
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- We have become timid.
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- We've been told for so long that we're supposed to separate
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- The church and the state.
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- We don't want a state church.
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- We don't want government mandated beliefs.
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- But we should have enough faith in what we believe,
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- That we think it will make our
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- Families better, our marriages better, our parenting, better
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- Our schools and our colleges better
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- Even our communities in general. better.
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- We're going to have to grow some courage in the church.
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- When we see something is wrong.
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- We've got to have the courage to call it out.
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- It doesn't mean that we hate people when we do so.
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- We've almost completely lost our will to say no.
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- I don't think that's a good idea.
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- Here's a suggestion.
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- Start at your kitchen table.
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- Your kitchen
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- Table is a primary arena of spiritual responsibility
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- In your life changing the world.
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- It begins at our kitchen tables.
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- Then it extends into our circles of influence.
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- If we will speak truth and judge with truth is our standard.
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- We will redeem a culture
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- And our nation will experience better outcomes.
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- Well, in just a moment,
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- We're going to hear a good deal more
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- About the secret relationship between iran and china
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- And what it means for the rest of the world.
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- Joining us will be seamus bruner.
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- He's the vice president and executive
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- Director of research at the government
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- Accountability institute. i'll be right back.
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- Accountability institute. i'll be right back.
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- You know, there are a lot of people out there
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- Masquerading as reporters, but so few of them deal in truth.
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- Well, shamus bronner, he's one you can trust. he's
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- An accomplished investigator who does a lot of digging.
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- And from capitol hill to the white house,
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- They all pay attention to what he reports.
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- James, thank you for joining us again today.
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- Thanks so much for having me, pastor.
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- Well, it's been clear for a long time
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- Now that iran was subcontracting a lot of its terrorism
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- To others,
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- But most people had no clue how they got the tools
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- They needed to become so dangerous.
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- As you've discovered, a lot of it came from china.
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- Maybe we begin by you giving us some
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- Examples of what you found.
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- Yes, sir.
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- So china and iran signed a $400 billion
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- Partnership in 2021.
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- A lot of it
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- Deals with oil, but a lot of it deals with weaponry and weapons
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- Systems and the technology underlying the missile systems.
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- And so this war has been going to be great for china.
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- You know,
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- As long as it goes on longer in terms of the weapons now,
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- It could be bad in terms of the oil
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- If they can't keep getting their discounted oil
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- That they've been getting all throughout the sanctions regime.
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- So what that means is it's
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- Pretty bad for us to have two, two players like this aligned.
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- And, you know, fighting.
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- I hope we hope it doesn't go on too long.
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- Well, china has been sharing its satellite
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- And surveillance systems to help guide iran's military
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- On where to fire u.s.
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- Assets in the region. am i correct about that?
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- Yeah.
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- That's right.
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- They share a lot of intelligence,
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- And they're kind of at the moment playing both sides.
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- You know,
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- China is calling for de-escalation,
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- But they're the ones who've been arming,
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- This terrorist state for so many years.
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- And so, you know what?
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- It seems like you
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- Follow the money and the deals that china has with iran.
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- They're actually loving it.
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- Well, it appears that china and iran
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- Each got what they wanted out of this.
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- China got cheap oil, and iran
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- Got military equipment that they would not have
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- Been able to build on their own.
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- You reported that much of the oil was smuggled to china
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- Using oil tankers, with no national
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- Branding on them, so they could bypass sanctions.
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- Can you explain a little bit about how that works?
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- Yeah, exactly.
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- I mean, these these ships, they,
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- You know,
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- You don't know where they came from
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- And they kind of sneak out with the oil.
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- And then they always find their way to china.
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- You can't have that happen
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- With a legitimate country like one of our allies.
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- You know, they can't buy,
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- You know, oil from iran and then have the ships
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- Land in their ports.
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- But, and once they're in
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- International waters, it's not it's
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- Not quite so easy as just blowing the ships up.
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- Now, president trump has been able to,
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- Successfully bring these tankers in recent months,
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- Into port and into britain, in the uk
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- And have our er air force, escort them.
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- But it is a
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- Real international incident to enforce the sanctions.
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- And when china doesn't play ball with us, you know, they don't
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- They don't really care about sanctions at all.
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- You know, even with all the help,
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- It looks like the chinese equipment
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- Is inferior compared to what
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- The united states shares with israel.
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- Thank goodness they're behind.
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- But do you have any idea why that is?
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- Yeah.
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- Well, there's nothing like,
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- American or israeli made, military equipment.
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- It's the best in the world.
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- And everybody knows that, cheap crap from china
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- Doesn't stop at the stuff you buy on amazon.
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- All the way up
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- To their most so-called elite, military technology.
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- It's, it's.
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- And leading to, missiles that are not detonating
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- Or not hitting targets.
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- So i guess that's good for us.
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- Well, iran's threats along the strait of hormuz
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- Are front and center.
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- So president trump asked the european leaders,
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- They're all members of nato,
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- If they would help patrol the shipping lanes.
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- It's a very critical path for global commerce.
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- Many of those same leaders are the ones
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- Who went to president
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- Trump with their fears that russia
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- Would go beyond ukraine and attack europe.
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- But when trump asked for help, they said
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- No, that this was america's war.
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- So they the president shot back,
- 00:10:33.429 --> 00:10:35.431
- Telling them, now you're on your own.
- 00:10:35.431 --> 00:10:37.066
- We no longer need or desire you.
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- We never did.
- 00:10:39.202 --> 00:10:41.070
- Seamus, i'm thinking that this is not
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- The last we'll hear of this back and forth.
- 00:10:42.839 --> 00:10:45.174
- Am i correct?
- 00:10:45.174 --> 00:10:47.043
- Yeah, absolutely.
- 00:10:47.477 --> 00:10:48.277
- And it's ridiculous for how much
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- Defense that we've provided to the entirety of europe
- 00:10:49.979 --> 00:10:53.282
- For them to not stand with us is is an outrage.
- 00:10:53.282 --> 00:10:57.587
- And it's long past time that president trump, stopped
- 00:10:57.587 --> 00:11:00.890
- Spending american dollars and sending american troops
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- To help defend europe, as they're not going to help us.
- 00:11:03.860 --> 00:11:07.330
- How much do you think this significant migration
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- Of muslims into europe,
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- Who becomes so much a part of the fabric now
- 00:11:11.033 --> 00:11:13.736
- Is impacting these nato nations decisions
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- To not help us in this attack or event with iran?
- 00:11:16.572 --> 00:11:20.743
- Oh, it's absolutely a huge part of it.
- 00:11:21.577 --> 00:11:23.312
- I mean, the islamization of europe is it's terrifying.
- 00:11:23.312 --> 00:11:26.949
- It's a warning signal for for the united states.
- 00:11:26.949 --> 00:11:29.786
- I mean, we can't have
- 00:11:29.786 --> 00:11:31.020
- What's been going on in, places like minnesota and new york
- 00:11:31.020 --> 00:11:34.791
- With the leadership that they have.
- 00:11:34.791 --> 00:11:36.325
- But all of the i mean, i've just seen,
- 00:11:36.325 --> 00:11:38.461
- Mayor after mayor and, you know, elected leader
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- After elected leader that does the there
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- Is, you know, islamic and muslim and from muslim countries.
- 00:11:43.733 --> 00:11:46.936
- And so i you know, i don't
- 00:11:46.936 --> 00:11:48.704
- I don't know that that necessarily
- 00:11:48.704 --> 00:11:50.206
- Makes them disloyal to the country,
- 00:11:50.206 --> 00:11:51.941
- But it certainly gives them a sympathy that,
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- Native born britons or, germans or french would not have.
- 00:11:54.210 --> 00:11:58.047
- Well, seamus, we need to take a short break right now.
- 00:11:59.115 --> 00:12:01.117
- Can you stay for another segment?
- 00:12:01.117 --> 00:12:03.653
- Absolutely.
- 00:12:03.653 --> 00:12:04.821
- We'll be right back.
- 00:12:04.821 --> 00:12:13.011
- We'll be right back.
- 00:12:13.011 --> 00:12:17.604
- We're back now with seamus bruner.
- 00:12:18.338 --> 00:12:20.173
- He's the author of the must read book.
- 00:12:20.173 --> 00:12:22.209
- It's the book with the long title controller
- 00:12:22.209 --> 00:12:25.545
- Exposing the billionaire class, their secret deals,
- 00:12:25.545 --> 00:12:28.915
- And the globalist plot to dominate your life.
- 00:12:28.915 --> 00:12:31.985
- I was relieved when i looked at the cover.
- 00:12:31.985 --> 00:12:33.486
- My picture wasn't there, so that was good news.
- 00:12:33.486 --> 00:12:36.556
- There are new reports this week.
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- Absolutely not.
- 00:12:38.725 --> 00:12:39.759
- You're one of the greatest enemies
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- Of the control guard, so don't worry about that.
- 00:12:41.328 --> 00:12:44.431
- Well, there's some new reports
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- This week on how china is stealing
- 00:12:45.365 --> 00:12:47.067
- All sorts of data on american citizens,
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- As well as government officials.
- 00:12:49.269 --> 00:12:51.037
- Some of it came through chinese front companies
- 00:12:51.037 --> 00:12:53.240
- That buy huge data sets from third party brokers.
- 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:56.176
- What are they up to?
- 00:12:56.176 --> 00:12:57.010
- That would be so eager to capture
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- Private information about americans.
- 00:12:58.945 --> 00:13:01.314
- That's a great question.
- 00:13:01.848 --> 00:13:02.983
- Nothing good, i can tell you that.
- 00:13:02.983 --> 00:13:04.618
- I mean, the the amount of data that china
- 00:13:04.618 --> 00:13:06.553
- Is amassing on americans.
- 00:13:06.553 --> 00:13:07.988
- And i would say that's sort of to be expected.
- 00:13:07.988 --> 00:13:10.457
- I mean, we should be worried about china,
- 00:13:10.457 --> 00:13:11.791
- But really, who we should be worried about
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- Is the people doing business with them.
- 00:13:13.493 --> 00:13:15.862
- I, you know, spoiler alert for chapter ten of the book
- 00:13:15.862 --> 00:13:18.798
- Controller marks the end game of these bad guys.
- 00:13:18.798 --> 00:13:21.935
- The bill gates in the cloud.
- 00:13:21.935 --> 00:13:23.169
- Schwab's into the global as people who really don't
- 00:13:23.169 --> 00:13:25.705
- Have great allegiance to america is they like china.
- 00:13:25.705 --> 00:13:28.975
- They praise china time and again.
- 00:13:28.975 --> 00:13:31.444
- They want a system
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- Much more like china, which is why they do
- 00:13:32.412 --> 00:13:34.681
- So many business deals with them
- 00:13:34.681 --> 00:13:36.383
- So that any company that's turning over, private
- 00:13:36.383 --> 00:13:40.387
- Data on american citizens to its largest adversary, china,
- 00:13:40.387 --> 00:13:45.558
- They ought to be dealt with.
- 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:47.160
- I mean, it's you know, i don't know if sanctions
- 00:13:47.160 --> 00:13:48.962
- Or what the right tool is, but people need to know
- 00:13:48.962 --> 00:13:51.932
- That the people who are holding
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- Your data are selling it over to your enemies
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- Or your colleague peter schweizer
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- Has been making the case that even as iran is falling,
- 00:13:59.072 --> 00:14:02.709
- China is still winning because the us is using up
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- So much of our existing weapon arsenal.
- 00:14:05.378 --> 00:14:07.747
- They want taiwan and they're building up
- 00:14:07.747 --> 00:14:09.316
- Their own weapons supplies to get ready for a move.
- 00:14:09.316 --> 00:14:11.985
- Can you expand on what peter has put on the table?
- 00:14:11.985 --> 00:14:15.121
- Yeah, i mean, peter's exactly right.
- 00:14:15.889 --> 00:14:17.624
- His book, the invisible code, goes all into the, red green
- 00:14:17.624 --> 00:14:21.461
- Alliance between the marxists and communists.
- 00:14:21.461 --> 00:14:23.496
- And in places like china,
- 00:14:23.496 --> 00:14:25.532
- As in the green, you know, islamists
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- Who are infiltrating the country in iran and everywhere else.
- 00:14:28.568 --> 00:14:32.138
- The thing is, is you're exactly right.
- 00:14:32.906 --> 00:14:34.908
- And schweitzer is right that the longer that this, conflict,
- 00:14:34.908 --> 00:14:39.012
- You know, goes on with iran, if we don't finish the job
- 00:14:39.012 --> 00:14:42.182
- Quickly, china has a better chance of taking, taiwan.
- 00:14:42.182 --> 00:14:45.652
- I think that much is clear.
- 00:14:45.652 --> 00:14:46.853
- I think they want the conflict in the middle east to draw.
- 00:14:46.853 --> 00:14:49.756
- You know, draw on longer and longer,
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- Which has to do with why
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- They're supplying the weaponry and the cash.
- 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.128
- And so,
- 00:14:55.128 --> 00:14:56.296
- We need to be able to kind of walk
- 00:14:56.296 --> 00:14:57.797
- And chew gum at the same time,
- 00:14:57.797 --> 00:14:59.232
- Get it done in the, in the middle east,
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- And then make sure that china does not take taiwan
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- Well.
- 00:15:04.671 --> 00:15:05.605
- Schweitzer has made another important point
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- That the us is fighting with one hand tied behind its back
- 00:15:07.374 --> 00:15:10.877
- Because of the many ties between american businesses.
- 00:15:10.877 --> 00:15:13.813
- In other words, if we pressed china too hard,
- 00:15:13.813 --> 00:15:15.782
- It could come back to hurt the us. is that his point?
- 00:15:15.782 --> 00:15:20.353
- Yeah.
- 00:15:20.587 --> 00:15:21.154
- And this is why we need
- 00:15:21.154 --> 00:15:22.022
- I mean, it started under the first trump
- 00:15:22.022 --> 00:15:23.757
- Administration, but it continues today.
- 00:15:23.757 --> 00:15:25.525
- We need to be reshoring and stop
- 00:15:25.525 --> 00:15:27.994
- Getting our supply chain back in our hemisphere.
- 00:15:27.994 --> 00:15:30.430
- I think this has a lot to do with,
- 00:15:30.430 --> 00:15:32.165
- President trump's actions in venezuela and in latin america.
- 00:15:32.165 --> 00:15:35.769
- It's much better to have parts of our supply chain over here
- 00:15:35.769 --> 00:15:38.972
- Than it is over there, because, i mean, we saw it with covid
- 00:15:38.972 --> 00:15:41.674
- And so many other examples the pharmaceuticals, the tech,
- 00:15:41.674 --> 00:15:45.745
- All of it, the chips.
- 00:15:45.745 --> 00:15:46.880
- So bringing manufacturing back to the united states
- 00:15:46.880 --> 00:15:49.516
- Is the number one way
- 00:15:49.516 --> 00:15:50.717
- To kind of release that hand tied behind our back.
- 00:15:50.717 --> 00:15:53.853
- You know, i realize that you're not a politician,
- 00:15:54.888 --> 00:15:57.357
- But if you were advising
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- The president prior to his trip to meet with xi jinping,
- 00:15:58.491 --> 00:16:01.694
- What would you suggest he ask for when he gets there?
- 00:16:01.694 --> 00:16:04.898
- That's a great, great question, pastor.
- 00:16:05.665 --> 00:16:08.368
- You know, number one, the fentanyl
- 00:16:08.368 --> 00:16:10.370
- Still flowing now, president trump, sealed the border,
- 00:16:10.370 --> 00:16:13.406
- But china is still waging war on us using fentanyl.
- 00:16:13.406 --> 00:16:16.342
- That needs to stop.
- 00:16:16.342 --> 00:16:17.944
- And then as far as their,
- 00:16:17.944 --> 00:16:19.546
- Activities in cuba, i mean, cuba is 90 miles away.
- 00:16:19.546 --> 00:16:22.415
- I'm in florida. china.
- 00:16:22.415 --> 00:16:24.417
- It used to be the soviets
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- Down in cuba, but now it's china that is bolstering cuba.
- 00:16:25.618 --> 00:16:29.355
- And there actually, you know, groups like,
- 00:16:29.355 --> 00:16:31.858
- The ones run by devil roy singam, who schweitzer advised,
- 00:16:31.858 --> 00:16:35.195
- They are bringing american left wing radical left
- 00:16:35.195 --> 00:16:37.931
- Groups down to cuba, and they are getting marxist
- 00:16:37.931 --> 00:16:40.567
- Revolutionary training.
- 00:16:40.567 --> 00:16:42.102
- This guy neville roy singam, he's based in china.
- 00:16:42.102 --> 00:16:44.404
- So this kind of activity of using frontmen
- 00:16:44.404 --> 00:16:47.240
- In order to radicalize our country
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- And create this division and chaos and unrest
- 00:16:49.242 --> 00:16:52.245
- That needs to stop.
- 00:16:52.245 --> 00:16:53.379
- And then the economics, i mean, president trump doesn't
- 00:16:53.379 --> 00:16:56.783
- Get enough credit for the, various tariffs he's put on.
- 00:16:56.783 --> 00:17:00.220
- We're bringing in, tens,
- 00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:01.488
- If not hundreds of billions of dollars.
- 00:17:01.488 --> 00:17:03.423
- I think he needs to ratchet that up and say,
- 00:17:03.423 --> 00:17:05.158
- Look, we'll put,
- 00:17:05.158 --> 00:17:06.392
- You know, even higher tariffs if you don't do what we say.
- 00:17:06.392 --> 00:17:09.562
- What about the i race, you know, we had a race to the moon back
- 00:17:09.562 --> 00:17:12.499
- In the day.
- 00:17:12.499 --> 00:17:13.333
- But now it seems like we're
- 00:17:13.333 --> 00:17:14.434
- Locked in this race with china for supremacy on ai.
- 00:17:14.434 --> 00:17:18.438
- What are they doing to ensure that they win that?
- 00:17:18.438 --> 00:17:22.075
- Yeah.
- 00:17:22.308 --> 00:17:23.109
- And that's another great question.
- 00:17:23.109 --> 00:17:23.910
- A colleague of ours,
- 00:17:23.910 --> 00:17:25.145
- Winton hall, just published a great book called code red.
- 00:17:25.145 --> 00:17:28.181
- He keeps saying,
- 00:17:28.181 --> 00:17:29.516
- We've got to beat china without becoming china.
- 00:17:29.516 --> 00:17:32.018
- So it's a delicate balance, this ai arms race.
- 00:17:32.018 --> 00:17:34.988
- Where what does the finish line look like?
- 00:17:34.988 --> 00:17:37.190
- Do we want to live in a
- 00:17:37.190 --> 00:17:39.559
- Totally ai controlled society with social credit scores,
- 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.729
- Which we know some of the control?
- 00:17:42.729 --> 00:17:44.497
- That's exactly what they want.
- 00:17:44.497 --> 00:17:46.699
- But at the same time, if china wins that, i mean, they get
- 00:17:46.699 --> 00:17:50.036
- The sky is the limit in terms of,
- 00:17:50.036 --> 00:17:52.238
- Devastation that they could do, whether it's, you know,
- 00:17:52.238 --> 00:17:54.340
- Shutting down infrastructure, power grids, etc.
- 00:17:54.340 --> 00:17:58.344
- If we're not on,
- 00:17:58.344 --> 00:17:59.445
- If we're not at the top, they could do real damage,
- 00:17:59.445 --> 00:18:01.781
- And it'd be hard to prove that it was them.
- 00:18:01.781 --> 00:18:03.650
- Just given how advanced the ai is.
- 00:18:03.650 --> 00:18:06.753
- Well,
- 00:18:06.986 --> 00:18:08.221
- We're going to have winston on soon to explore his new book,
- 00:18:08.221 --> 00:18:09.956
- So we're looking forward to that.
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- James, thank you for sharing your time
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- With us today and for your trusted reporting.
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- Yes, sir.
- 00:18:17.630 --> 00:18:18.331
- Thank you pastor. see you soon.
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- A viewer on youtube noted, my friend told me
- 00:18:55.638 --> 00:18:58.441
- That the troops have been told that this is a holy war,
- 00:18:58.441 --> 00:19:02.311
- And that jesus has anointed president trump
- 00:19:02.311 --> 00:19:04.680
- To start the war to encourage armageddon.
- 00:19:04.680 --> 00:19:08.084
- To me, that sounds ridiculous.
- 00:19:08.084 --> 00:19:09.919
- Have you heard that or do you think that it's nonsense?
- 00:19:09.919 --> 00:19:13.456
- I have not heard that.
- 00:19:13.923 --> 00:19:15.758
- I do think it's nonsense.
- 00:19:15.758 --> 00:19:17.526
- I think you need a new friend, but i'm not really surprised.
- 00:19:17.526 --> 00:19:21.864
- It seems to be the israelis have been accused
- 00:19:21.864 --> 00:19:23.699
- Of everything lately.
- 00:19:23.699 --> 00:19:24.834
- Except trying to capture the easter bunny.
- 00:19:24.834 --> 00:19:27.637
- And i'm expecting to hear that rumor just about any day.
- 00:19:27.637 --> 00:19:30.740
- Jennifer wrote in i live in massachusetts, where
- 00:19:31.707 --> 00:19:34.443
- I'm a teacher of 23 years.
- 00:19:34.443 --> 00:19:36.178
- I teach in the city right outside of boston.
- 00:19:36.178 --> 00:19:38.581
- We have a huge immigrant
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- Population, and many, many are here illegally.
- 00:19:39.615 --> 00:19:42.985
- Our school system is overcrowded.
- 00:19:42.985 --> 00:19:44.587
- We have so much fraud in the state of massachusetts
- 00:19:44.587 --> 00:19:47.657
- With how many illegal immigrants
- 00:19:47.657 --> 00:19:48.991
- Were housed in hotels by our governor, maura healey.
- 00:19:48.991 --> 00:19:52.561
- It's also so frustrating that the teachers union
- 00:19:52.561 --> 00:19:54.897
- Is so pro illegal immigrants.
- 00:19:54.897 --> 00:19:57.366
- They're actually pushing a walkout where they want
- 00:19:57.366 --> 00:19:59.335
- Students and teachers to walk out of school at 130.
- 00:19:59.335 --> 00:20:02.805
- Massachusetts is a blue state,
- 00:20:02.805 --> 00:20:04.240
- But there are many, many conservatives in the state.
- 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:06.676
- Unfortunately, the big cities overtake the state.
- 00:20:06.676 --> 00:20:09.912
- Well, jennifer, it's a good reminder.
- 00:20:10.713 --> 00:20:12.315
- We still have an immigration problem.
- 00:20:12.315 --> 00:20:14.684
- We have a system for legal immigration.
- 00:20:14.684 --> 00:20:17.053
- It allows multiplied people to come into our nation every year.
- 00:20:17.053 --> 00:20:21.424
- But our borders have been open
- 00:20:21.424 --> 00:20:22.792
- And tens of millions have come in illegally.
- 00:20:22.792 --> 00:20:25.728
- They need to go home.
- 00:20:25.728 --> 00:20:27.596
- We're paying them to go home, and we need to cooperate
- 00:20:27.596 --> 00:20:31.467
- In encouraging the rest.
- 00:20:31.467 --> 00:20:33.402
- Nothing that begins with illegal is going to turn out well.
- 00:20:33.402 --> 00:20:37.106
- It's not compassion to encourage illegal behavior.
- 00:20:37.106 --> 00:20:41.310
- And we need to keep saying it because there's a cascading set
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- Of voices on the other end of that spectrum.
- 00:20:44.613 --> 00:20:48.317
- Alan g. in texas.
- 00:20:48.751 --> 00:20:50.186
- And you spell alan right?
- 00:20:50.186 --> 00:20:52.355
- Yes. god is moving in the earth and even in d.c.
- 00:20:52.355 --> 00:20:54.957
- No more funding for research via fetal tissue.
- 00:20:54.957 --> 00:20:58.060
- Donald trump, the self-described most pro-life
- 00:20:58.060 --> 00:21:00.863
- President ever, sometimes needs reminding of that fact.
- 00:21:00.863 --> 00:21:04.667
- But not this time.
- 00:21:04.667 --> 00:21:06.035
- The national institutes of health recently ended
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- Federal funding for any research
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- That uses tissue from aborted babies.
- 00:21:10.473 --> 00:21:13.175
- This win prevents the sale of aborted babies
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- To labs for research into areas like stem cells.
- 00:21:15.277 --> 00:21:19.382
- But the nih director, jay bhattacharya, stressed
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- That parents who suffer
- 00:21:22.051 --> 00:21:23.285
- Miscarriages can still donate the babies body to science.
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- Alan, it's a good reminder there's much work
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- To do in that abortion conversation.
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- Abortion numbers are going up
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- Even though roe v wade has been turned back.
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- We've talked.
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- We've been taught to be kind.
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- It's not a good policy to be kind to evil.
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- Evil has to be confronted.
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- Maybe we'll find the courage to do that.
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- Thank you for your time with us.
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- And i pray you have a blessed evening.
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