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Allen Jackson: Cultural Crossroads | Allen Jackson Now

December 2, 2025 | 22:34

Allen Jackson: Cultural Crossroads | Allen Jackson Now
Allen Jackson sits down with guests at the World Outreach Church Culture & Christianity Conference 2025.
#Christianity #Faith #Culture #Martyrs #Fear #Boldness #Truth #KingdomofGod #Politics #Media #AllenJackson #EricMetaxas #AlexMarlow

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Cultural Crossroads | Allen Jackson Now | December 2, 2025
  • The media and their
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  • Role is so important in our midst.
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  • And as i have listened to them,
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  • There's some significant pressure
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  • Against the values that we would hold.
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  • I think most of us,
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  • And so i think one of the key things when god moves,
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  • When he calls people to significant shifts,
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  • Is he gives them imaginations of, what's next, moses,
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  • I want you to go back and tell pharaoh to let my people go.
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  • Joshua, i want you to lead these people
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  • Into this promised land. saul.
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  • Ananias, go tell saw what he's going to have to suffer
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  • To tell people about me.
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  • He just met me on the road to damascus.
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  • And we're at one of those pivot points.
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  • A friend of ours, someone we respected, was murdered.
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  • Martyred for his faith.
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  • God is moving.
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  • You've described the media in various ways.
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  • Evil.
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  • I mean, some really weighty language
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  • That you all have lived against it.
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  • And in the midst of it. so.
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  • And yet you represent,
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  • A new expression of media in our country.
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  • So maybe talk to us a little bit
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  • From each of your perspectives,
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  • What that's going to look like, what are we looking for
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  • To see god break through?
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  • Because i don't think abc, nbc and cbs are going to be
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  • Swept from the face of the earth in a tidal wave.
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  • They're going to continue to exist.
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  • But there's new voices, new platforms, new expressions.
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  • Truth is, being told, things are being uncovered that they've
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  • Desperately tried to hide.
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  • The absurdity of the lies is becoming.
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  • If you have any willingness to look, it's more clear every day.
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  • I loved your comments, jason, on the
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  • The difference in the word the if you use if you right
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  • Or versus being an actor
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  • Versus just talking.
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  • Yes. it's you know, we all have a tendency,
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  • To not be truthful when we talk is, you know,
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  • If i went and asked someone, hey, do i look skinny right now?
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  • And people were like, yeah, yeah, you look great, jason.
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  • But if someone had to go write a column, they might say,
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  • You know, jason needs to lose some weight.
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  • And so, you know, you're not sitting there
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  • When you're writing the piece.
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  • You're thinking more about being truthful.
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  • It's got to stand the test of time.
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  • What you say has to work in that moment.
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  • And so, that's what you're getting a lot from the media.
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  • It's something that works in the moment
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  • Where as this written word is, it's out.
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  • I mean, it's been a long time
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  • And it's still just hadn't changed.
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  • And it's still it stands the test of tongue.
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  • But i also heard you say
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  • We have to be willing to sacrifice our lives
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  • Without question.
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  • I mean, jesus set the example.
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  • We should be persecuted.
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  • It's it's there's part of me.
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  • I hope this comes off correctly,
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  • But there was part of me on september 10th.
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  • A tiny bit jealous of
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  • Of charlie.
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  • It's like. holy.
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  • He did it.
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  • He went all the way.
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  • And he's now with jesus.
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  • And and it's like
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  • It does inspire me.
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  • It's. i got to do more.
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  • I want the devil to hate me.
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  • So bad that he's thinking i got to kill whitlock,
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  • Because that's the only way to stop.
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  • You know, can i jump on that real quick?
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  • Because on september 10th, i received a text
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  • From all three of my kids, and they're 19, 21 and 23.
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  • And to get them all on the phone
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  • At once and it's their idea is a big deal.
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  • And they wanted to have a talk with me and they said, no more,
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  • No more, mom.
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  • We don't want you talking.
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  • We don't want you going anywhere.
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  • We don't want you going on campuses.
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  • They're afraid.
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  • And i listened to them.
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  • Their voices matter.
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  • And i understood
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  • Because they saw two little kids in a beautiful life
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  • Lose their father for just speaking the truth.
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  • So, i think the problem is that
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  • That's what they want.
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  • They want us to be afraid.
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  • They want us to run and get quiet.
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  • After charlie lost his life.
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  • Anybody that would shrink back
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  • Should be ashamed.
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  • That is cowardice at this point.
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  • And i think, especially if you're a christian, we.
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  • We're supposed to know that jesus actually defeated death.
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  • We're supposed to know that.
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  • And if you don't know that and live that way,
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  • Do you?
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  • Do not have faith.
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  • You can't say you have faith
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  • And then live like you don't have faith.
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  • And so i think that this was like,
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  • In some ways a gift from the lord
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  • To us to say, like, now will you stand up now?
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  • Will you stand up?
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  • And i think it's what erica said.
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  • I think the devil has unleashed something in this
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  • That is unreal.
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  • It's it's no difference.
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  • The same principle as the crucifixion, right?
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  • It's like the devil is like i won now.
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  • It's like, excuse me. no.
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  • You did the worst thing to yourself ever you could do.
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  • That's basically part of what has just happened.
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  • I mean, a sleeping giant has been awakened
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  • That i think we're going to see things in the culture that
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  • Most of us could not even dream of seeing in our lifetimes.
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  • And abc and cbs.
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  • They're scared to death,
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  • As they should be, of losing everything.
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  • I mean, when,
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  • When when jimmy fallon had greg gutfeld on as a guest,
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  • I thought, wow, that's interesting.
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  • They must be really scared
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  • Because they had to have greg gutfeld on to kind of say like,
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  • Oh, please keep watching.
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  • You know, we're not anti-trump.
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  • Something is happening.
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  • We need to seize this moment.
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  • And donald trump, praise the lord, understands this.
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  • He has just been fearless in the in dealing with this.
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  • It's amazing.
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  • So i've got quite a
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  • Bit about how the media became so demonic.
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  • And it's obvious now. i think we knew it before.
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  • What happened to charlie and the media reacted.
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  • I think just looking at those instances,
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  • The way they treated the trans shooter, mowing down
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  • Children as they prayed,
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  • The way that they took that, as
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  • If it was just something that happens.
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  • And of course, the incident on the train in north carolina,
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  • Which i talked about in my speech,
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  • You're saying, how do we get here?
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  • How do we get to this demonic moment in media?
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  • And i think it's just the absence of god.
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  • The media insisted that we should not incorporate
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  • Faith into our coverage at all,
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  • Not even consider issues of faith, even though i find it.
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  • You can see it.
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  • Just check out who gets the most followers on instagram.
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  • Social media.
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  • People who are preaching.
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  • People are talking about their relationship with god.
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  • People who are showing their faith in their content.
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  • Wildly popular people love this stuff is massive followings.
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  • The media completely ignored it
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  • And i think that's where satan got in.
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  • I think he got in because of the absence of god.
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  • And i'll tell you, this is where charlie was a visionary.
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  • All four of us participate in something
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  • That's changing in the way
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  • The media is being perceived by most people,
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  • Which is that people are getting their news
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  • And their opinions simultaneously.
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  • They used to think of it as, you get your news from the ap
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  • Or the new york times, which was lying to you,
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  • And then you can go to rush limbaugh
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  • And he'll tell you what it means.
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  • No, it's not how they're doing it now.
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  • You find your favorite host, your favorite podcast,
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  • And you're getting both at the same time
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  • Because they trust jason.
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  • If they're listening to his show
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  • And they know he's not bringing something
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  • That's going to be false to them,
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  • And then immediately you don't have to switch
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  • To another show or another paper to figure out
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  • What jason's take is on it. you get both.
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  • So that's what's happening.
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  • But charlie was doing that,
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  • But he was doing something even bigger.
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  • He wasn't just talking about the news.
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  • He's talking about his faith.
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  • At the same time,
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  • He's incorporating three things at once news, opinion,
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  • And faith. the same time.
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  • I don't know anyone else
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  • Who was doing it at that level the way he was.
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  • You can think of a couple other examples,
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  • But his was the biggest show, and maybe that's the future.
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  • Maybe if you find the person who doesn't
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  • Just talk to you about the news and give their opinion,
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  • But also how that relates to living a godly,
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  • Christian, judeo christian american life.
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  • And i think, charlie, trying to bring back our politics
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  • To our founding, our founding documents,
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  • Our founding fathers and their faith.
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  • I think that was going to be the start.
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  • Something really, really big.
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  • And i just wish we could have got to see
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  • It through a little bit more.
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  • It through a little bit more.
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  • Just to frame this, okay.
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  • I grew up in a working class home. okay.
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  • I went to yale university.
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  • That was the first time i was introduced to the secular
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  • America anti-american,
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  • Anti born again believer worldview,
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  • The globalist
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  • Cultural elites, the first time i was exposed to it
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  • And i realized, oh, that's how they think.
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  • And i live in new york city.
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  • That's how that's how they think.
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  • But i recognize that many of them,
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  • They're either hostile to faith and patriotism
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  • Or it's so foreign to them they don't speak that language.
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  • So if it comes up somehow, they just avoid it
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  • Because it makes them uncomfortable.
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  • Some of them are not anti that.
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  • They just it just makes them uncomfortable. i just avoid it.
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  • That has been changing dramatically.
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  • The media landscape has shifted so dramatically in the last,
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  • Let's say ten years.
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  • We're in a new day and we can feel it.
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  • And it is happening.
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  • And i think the shift is just there's there's no going back.
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  • So i am profoundly hopeful.
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  • And again, charlie was so brave.
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  • He didn't need to talk about his faith.
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  • He could have just stuck to politics.
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  • But he talked about his faith.
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  • He's normalized that for young people all around the country.
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  • So i again,
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  • I think we're on the verge of an absolute shift, like we have
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  • Like most of us could not dream. i know it,
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  • But as i
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  • Listen to you all, yeah, it's true.
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  • And it's not just tonight
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  • Because i listen to your, your media platforms,
  • 00:10:27.954 --> 00:10:31.391
  • You you tell more truth about what's happening
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  • In our culture more directly, or you write about it with
  • 00:10:35.061 --> 00:10:39.132
  • Careful detail than the places i'm accustomed
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  • To going for truth, whether it's a pulpit
  • 00:10:42.602 --> 00:10:46.639
  • Or traditional media outlets, the shift has taken place.
  • 00:10:46.639 --> 00:10:50.710
  • It's up to us to recognize it.
  • 00:10:50.710 --> 00:10:53.847
  • I mean, it's not like going to happen.
  • 00:10:53.847 --> 00:10:55.682
  • It is happening before our very eyes.
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  • Jason brings his bible out
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  • And pointed us all towards it.
  • 00:11:00.653 --> 00:11:02.288
  • Tonight.
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  • A young woman stopped me earlier today and goes to a christian
  • 00:11:03.556 --> 00:11:06.693
  • University in nashville.
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  • In the bible department.
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  • And she said the the the chairman in the department
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  • Doesn't believe in the authority of scripture,
  • 00:11:12.766 --> 00:11:16.069
  • Of course.
  • 00:11:16.369 --> 00:11:17.270
  • And jason is standing on our platform
  • 00:11:17.270 --> 00:11:20.440
  • Telling us, you better be reading your bible.
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  • I want to see christians debate truth.
  • 00:11:22.976 --> 00:11:27.013
  • I think that's necessary, and important is how we learn.
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  • I really don't care what the atheist has to say.
  • 00:11:30.683 --> 00:11:33.720
  • I really don't care with the people
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  • That haven't surrendered to jesus christ as lord and savior.
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  • I'm not interested.
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  • I don't need that diversity.
  • 00:11:41.594 --> 00:11:43.630
  • And they've convinced us. nope.
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  • You got to hear from the,
  • 00:11:45.532 --> 00:11:48.101
  • Transgender person who's living in a delusional world.
  • 00:11:48.101 --> 00:11:52.372
  • You got to hear what they have to say
  • 00:11:53.173 --> 00:11:55.208
  • About the tennessee titans last laws.
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  • I have no interest in.
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  • It's removed from the standing of truth.
  • 00:12:00.914 --> 00:12:04.050
  • And so i'm just
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  • Woods, and i'm
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  • No sort of great example,
  • 00:12:09.255 --> 00:12:12.592
  • But i have gotten into the mentality
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  • Where i've come out from among them.
  • 00:12:14.794 --> 00:12:17.297
  • I don't
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  • Have people that support abortion
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  • While calling themselves christians.
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  • I don't have any interest in engaging with them.
  • 00:12:26.673 --> 00:12:29.042
  • I, you know, i'm going to pray for them.
  • 00:12:29.042 --> 00:12:32.011
  • They can listen to my show and i'll try to explain to them.
  • 00:12:32.011 --> 00:12:36.049
  • But running around and acting like i got to respect
  • 00:12:36.049 --> 00:12:39.485
  • Their opinion on something god has already ruled on,
  • 00:12:39.485 --> 00:12:43.523
  • Why should i be debating them?
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  • Jesus was not a unifier, he said.
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  • I didn't come to bring unity.
  • 00:12:49.863 --> 00:12:50.897
  • I came to bring division.
  • 00:12:50.897 --> 00:12:53.032
  • He brings it into homes and into families.
  • 00:12:53.032 --> 00:12:55.768
  • And the church has believed a false gospel for too long
  • 00:12:55.768 --> 00:12:59.405
  • We've had this secularized,
  • 00:13:00.006 --> 00:13:02.208
  • Sanitized gospel that said we should have a big tent.
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  • And that's what i'm telling you.
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  • The voices leading
  • 00:13:08.414 --> 00:13:09.549
  • Us, i believe, under the direction of the spirit of god,
  • 00:13:09.549 --> 00:13:13.319
  • Are coming to us from places you don't expect,
  • 00:13:13.319 --> 00:13:16.422
  • And we have to listen, and we've got to stop
  • 00:13:17.323 --> 00:13:20.226
  • Sitting in places that aren't telling us the truth.
  • 00:13:20.226 --> 00:13:23.363
  • We have tolerated something under the umbrella of our faith
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  • That we wouldn't tolerate under sports
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  • Reporting or political reporting, or
  • 00:13:28.935 --> 00:13:33.172
  • In the other arenas in our life where truth makes a difference.
  • 00:13:33.172 --> 00:13:36.609
  • We've had this watered down
  • 00:13:37.210 --> 00:13:39.345
  • False presentation i listen to.
  • 00:13:39.345 --> 00:13:42.682
  • I listen
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  • To charlie's videos of the day
  • 00:13:43.416 --> 00:13:44.617
  • When somebody challenged him that
  • 00:13:44.617 --> 00:13:47.120
  • He was divisive and they said jesus was
  • 00:13:47.120 --> 00:13:49.455
  • A, and he said, well, sir, what's not divisive?
  • 00:13:49.455 --> 00:13:52.592
  • And he said, well, jesus was all about the sermon on the mount.
  • 00:13:52.592 --> 00:13:56.729
  • And i'm screaming at youtube going, it's not the only sermon
  • 00:13:56.729 --> 00:13:59.465
  • He preached.
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  • Yeah.
  • 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.303
  • And so i'm profoundly grateful for your messages and your books
  • 00:14:03.303 --> 00:14:08.775
  • And your podcast, and to hear you say you're afraid
  • 00:14:08.775 --> 00:14:12.245
  • And you got to face the fear
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  • And learn to trust the lord
  • 00:14:15.048 --> 00:14:16.349
  • Where you're afraid, because we all have to learn to do that.
  • 00:14:16.349 --> 00:14:19.552
  • We've been afraid we would lose our jobs.
  • 00:14:20.420 --> 00:14:23.022
  • We've been afraid
  • 00:14:23.022 --> 00:14:24.090
  • Our kids wouldn't be in the cool group anymore.
  • 00:14:24.090 --> 00:14:27.026
  • We've been afraid we'd be ostracized.
  • 00:14:27.026 --> 00:14:30.530
  • If you're in here, you're afraid people are going to leave
  • 00:14:30.530 --> 00:14:32.265
  • Your church, or your board's going to cancel you or whatever.
  • 00:14:32.265 --> 00:14:35.735
  • And i'm hearing you all describe how you faced that fear.
  • 00:14:35.735 --> 00:14:39.372
  • And i think your instincts are exactly right.
  • 00:14:40.306 --> 00:14:42.475
  • Don't tolerate from the church less truthfulness
  • 00:14:42.475 --> 00:14:45.578
  • And authenticity than you'll tolerate from your professions.
  • 00:14:45.578 --> 00:14:48.948
  • I hear you raging
  • 00:14:48.948 --> 00:14:50.183
  • Against people in sports that are like buffoons,
  • 00:14:50.183 --> 00:14:54.253
  • And i watch you write about the politicians who are clowns,
  • 00:14:54.253 --> 00:14:57.190
  • And you live in new york city. you call out the
  • 00:14:57.190 --> 00:15:01.094
  • Yeah, and.
  • 00:15:01.394 --> 00:15:04.597
  • Those of you that are church, this is the south.
  • 00:15:04.597 --> 00:15:08.101
  • Most of you have broad exposure to church,
  • 00:15:08.101 --> 00:15:11.304
  • And you act like it's a surprise
  • 00:15:11.304 --> 00:15:13.539
  • What sexual immorality is.
  • 00:15:13.539 --> 00:15:16.943
  • We act like we could step back and decide whether we tie
  • 00:15:16.943 --> 00:15:20.279
  • Or we don't.
  • 00:15:20.279 --> 00:15:21.014
  • Stop blaming the pastors.
  • 00:15:21.014 --> 00:15:23.549
  • You practice the truth.
  • 00:15:23.549 --> 00:15:24.851
  • You know,
  • 00:15:24.851 --> 00:15:27.153
  • If you'll do that, god will raise up,
  • 00:15:27.153 --> 00:15:28.721
  • But he may raise them up from sports journalist
  • 00:15:28.721 --> 00:15:31.224
  • Or political analyst, analyst
  • 00:15:31.224 --> 00:15:34.260
  • Or people that went to yale.
  • 00:15:34.260 --> 00:15:37.864
  • But you write about that,
  • 00:15:38.431 --> 00:15:40.166
  • Wondering what's going on there.
  • 00:15:40.166 --> 00:15:43.403
  • It's the vanderbilt of the north.
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  • It's it's yeah.
  • 00:15:44.804 --> 00:15:46.572
  • Let me.
  • 00:15:46.572 --> 00:15:49.942
  • I think of yale the way i think of the new york times.
  • 00:15:50.977 --> 00:15:53.546
  • Those places, they are dead.
  • 00:15:53.546 --> 00:15:56.149
  • They are like the like the like the fig tree that jesus curse.
  • 00:15:56.149 --> 00:15:59.652
  • They are dying and they deserve to die.
  • 00:15:59.652 --> 00:16:03.056
  • They they have been just
  • 00:16:03.056 --> 00:16:05.091
  • Purveyors of foulness for many, many decades.
  • 00:16:05.091 --> 00:16:08.528
  • Yet yale was the first time
  • 00:16:08.528 --> 00:16:09.862
  • When i went there was the first time
  • 00:16:09.862 --> 00:16:11.030
  • I experienced
  • 00:16:11.030 --> 00:16:12.065
  • This kind of thinking, which is it
  • 00:16:12.065 --> 00:16:13.433
  • Was cultural marxism in the 80s.
  • 00:16:13.433 --> 00:16:15.735
  • And so these places that most of us we've been getting
  • 00:16:15.735 --> 00:16:19.572
  • It have been taking our lead
  • 00:16:19.572 --> 00:16:20.873
  • From these places, culturally speaking.
  • 00:16:20.873 --> 00:16:22.575
  • It's like, oh, they must know what they're talking about.
  • 00:16:22.575 --> 00:16:24.310
  • We now realize they don't.
  • 00:16:24.310 --> 00:16:26.312
  • And we need to we need to reject them.
  • 00:16:26.312 --> 00:16:27.980
  • And anybody's still trying to play patty cake
  • 00:16:27.980 --> 00:16:29.882
  • With the devil by saying, well, i read the new york times
  • 00:16:29.882 --> 00:16:31.884
  • And i read the run, run from that.
  • 00:16:31.884 --> 00:16:34.954
  • We're in a new day.
  • 00:16:34.954 --> 00:16:42.010
  • We're in a new day.
  • 00:16:42.010 --> 00:16:45.905
  • We're witnessing the greatest
  • 00:16:46.539 --> 00:16:47.907
  • Golfer since tiger woods is competing right
  • 00:16:47.907 --> 00:16:50.176
  • Now, man named scottie scheffler.
  • 00:16:50.176 --> 00:16:52.011
  • What he's doing is unbelievable.
  • 00:16:52.011 --> 00:16:53.580
  • I never thought i would see it
  • 00:16:53.580 --> 00:16:54.581
  • Again in my lifetime after tiger.
  • 00:16:54.581 --> 00:16:56.950
  • So after he wins the masters in 2024,
  • 00:16:56.950 --> 00:17:00.687
  • One of the journalists asked him about his legacy being secure
  • 00:17:00.687 --> 00:17:06.493
  • And his response was the most unbelievable response
  • 00:17:06.493 --> 00:17:09.229
  • To a question i've ever heard anyone ask, ever.
  • 00:17:09.229 --> 00:17:12.332
  • His response was simply looking at a roomful of columbia
  • 00:17:12.332 --> 00:17:16.736
  • School educated reporters and says to them, oh,
  • 00:17:16.736 --> 00:17:20.840
  • My victory was secured on
  • 00:17:20.840 --> 00:17:23.309
  • The cross.
  • 00:17:23.309 --> 00:17:29.782
  • I learned more about the greatest golfer
  • 00:17:30.617 --> 00:17:33.520
  • Of the last decade in that phrase, than i could
  • 00:17:33.520 --> 00:17:36.656
  • Learn by any 5000 word espn the magazine piece.
  • 00:17:36.656 --> 00:17:40.226
  • You could ever do.
  • 00:17:40.226 --> 00:17:41.794
  • And i've been thinking about this.
  • 00:17:41.794 --> 00:17:42.996
  • I have not had any excuse to talk about it with anyone,
  • 00:17:42.996 --> 00:17:44.998
  • And i feel like i got two perfect people.
  • 00:17:44.998 --> 00:17:47.600
  • I don't even know what the prompt is.
  • 00:17:48.401 --> 00:17:49.536
  • I just want to know what you guys are thinking
  • 00:17:49.536 --> 00:17:51.037
  • Right now, having covered this world.
  • 00:17:51.037 --> 00:17:52.739
  • Love scottie scheffler, and love
  • 00:17:52.739 --> 00:17:57.010
  • His testimony and his willingness
  • 00:17:57.010 --> 00:17:59.746
  • To share his faith in weird on his sleeve,
  • 00:17:59.746 --> 00:18:02.982
  • He's forcing people to think about
  • 00:18:03.716 --> 00:18:07.620
  • What is his source of power
  • 00:18:08.221 --> 00:18:10.924
  • And concentration and skill.
  • 00:18:10.924 --> 00:18:13.960
  • And i just,
  • 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:16.496
  • You know, i wish tiger woods talk like scottie scheffler.
  • 00:18:16.496 --> 00:18:19.866
  • Thanksgiving 2009 would have never happened,
  • 00:18:19.866 --> 00:18:22.502
  • And tiger would have broken jack nicklaus record
  • 00:18:22.502 --> 00:18:25.138
  • And we would have all been celebrating it.
  • 00:18:25.138 --> 00:18:27.407
  • Scottie scheffler is amazing.
  • 00:18:27.407 --> 00:18:29.275
  • It takes strength and courage.
  • 00:18:29.275 --> 00:18:32.512
  • And yes, it's easier when you know when your heart
  • 00:18:32.512 --> 00:18:34.581
  • Who your savior is,
  • 00:18:34.581 --> 00:18:35.782
  • But it's still in that world does take courage
  • 00:18:35.782 --> 00:18:38.151
  • For him to do that and i love it.
  • 00:18:38.151 --> 00:18:39.786
  • And what they don't want us to know
  • 00:18:39.786 --> 00:18:42.188
  • Is how many people celebrated that, right?
  • 00:18:42.188 --> 00:18:44.457
  • Because the mainstream media,
  • 00:18:44.457 --> 00:18:45.391
  • Once again, is not going to report that.
  • 00:18:45.391 --> 00:18:47.227
  • But it was beautiful to see how many people said yes, yes, yes.
  • 00:18:47.227 --> 00:18:51.130
  • And he is the greatest golfer we've seen since tiger.
  • 00:18:51.130 --> 00:18:54.167
  • How about the human being that he is, that we all,
  • 00:18:54.167 --> 00:18:57.403
  • As independent journalists, need to continue to uplift
  • 00:18:57.403 --> 00:19:01.407
  • And showcase?
  • 00:19:01.407 --> 00:19:09.007
  • And showcase?
  • 00:19:09.007 --> 00:19:13.449
  • What we want to do is say what
  • 00:19:14.049 --> 00:19:15.251
  • God said to us and not just talk about what god's doing.
  • 00:19:15.251 --> 00:19:19.021
  • I intend to get in the pool.
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  • Amen, amen.
  • 00:19:21.790 --> 00:19:23.659
  • I'm not willing to come talk and meet courageous people.
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  • I want it to be said of me when i'm doing that.
  • 00:19:26.729 --> 00:19:28.530
  • Whatever arena
  • 00:19:28.530 --> 00:19:29.632
  • God put me in, i lived with a courageous faith for him.
  • 00:19:29.632 --> 00:19:32.768
  • You can do that.
  • 00:19:33.168 --> 00:19:34.770
  • You don't have to be an espn anchor or a gifted writer.
  • 00:19:34.770 --> 00:19:38.641
  • We can do it from whatever place god has put us.
  • 00:19:39.575 --> 00:19:42.845
  • This is an appropriate clothes for the day.
  • 00:19:42.845 --> 00:19:45.614
  • Almighty god, we can read it together.
  • 00:19:45.614 --> 00:19:47.883
  • Our offenses are many in your sight
  • 00:19:47.883 --> 00:19:50.819
  • And our sins testify against us.
  • 00:19:50.819 --> 00:19:53.822
  • We acknowledge our iniquities, rebellion and treachery
  • 00:19:53.822 --> 00:19:57.893
  • Against the lord, turning our backs on god.
  • 00:19:57.893 --> 00:20:01.630
  • Justice has been driven back
  • 00:20:01.630 --> 00:20:03.699
  • And righteousness stands at a distance.
  • 00:20:03.699 --> 00:20:06.568
  • Truth has stumbled in the streets.
  • 00:20:06.568 --> 00:20:09.171
  • Honesty has been far from us.
  • 00:20:09.171 --> 00:20:11.974
  • Truth is nowhere to be found.
  • 00:20:11.974 --> 00:20:14.610
  • And whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.
  • 00:20:14.610 --> 00:20:18.180
  • We humbly ask, lord, that you would look, restore
  • 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:22.451
  • Righteousness and establish our hearts in your truth.
  • 00:20:22.451 --> 00:20:26.188
  • Once again.
  • 00:20:26.188 --> 00:20:27.623
  • May a respect for god grow in the hearts of your people.
  • 00:20:27.623 --> 00:20:31.927
  • May those who oppose you fomenting deceit and lies
  • 00:20:31.927 --> 00:20:36.332
  • Be silenced.
  • 00:20:36.332 --> 00:20:37.766
  • May their schemes unravel and be exposed.
  • 00:20:37.766 --> 00:20:41.470
  • May the glory of the lord be evident.
  • 00:20:41.470 --> 00:20:44.139
  • Let us speak your truth with all confidence.
  • 00:20:44.139 --> 00:20:47.409
  • Stretch forth your hand, that your power
  • 00:20:47.409 --> 00:20:50.412
  • Will be evident to all who are willing to see.
  • 00:20:50.412 --> 00:20:53.982
  • Let the purposes of god break forth in this generation.
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  • In jesus name, amen.
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