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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Cultural Impact | Allen Jackson Now | June 4, 2026
- I have a friend with me today.
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- Pastor rob mccoy. welcome.
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- Thank you. it's good to be with you.
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- I want to jump in. let's jump into the deep.
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- Into the well you live in california for, first of all.
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- So there is. there is proof.
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- There are christians there.
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- Yes, sir. yeah, people's republic of california.
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- There are christians there.
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- Now we're on gulags. but yeah.
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- Just kidding.
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- Well, you know, they used to.
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- The catholic priest in town used to say that
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- We were the second largest catholic church in the community
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- Because of the number of people that were migrating.
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- We're getting close
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- To having as many californians as you do, i think.
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- I mean, it seems like.
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- Yeah, when i was here sunday and i spoke,
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- A number of folks came up there were from our church,
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- And they've now.
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- Yeah.
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- Yeah. oh, that's fun.
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- Ton of californians.
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- So the the whole there's a
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- Big chunk of the current contemporary
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- Christian world that thinks christians
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- Should stay out of conversations on current events,
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- And you are kind of the antithesis of that.
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- You were actually the mayor of thousand oaks. yep.
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- While your pastor was senior pastor, right?
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- Yeah.
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- So you not only didn't separate the church and state,
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- You co-mingled them.
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- Yeah.
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- My mom used to say,
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- Never talk about religion
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- And politics and mixed company. and that was the guy
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- You wouldn't invite to the dinner party.
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- Because that's all i talk about.
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- So what are you going to say to somebody
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- That says we shouldn't talk about current events?
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- Well, you know, politics.
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- And unlike what most people
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- Think, the definition, they think it's poorly
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- Meaning many antics, meaning bloodsucking parasite.
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- But politics comes from the word polis, which is the concerns
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- Of the city.
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- And why wouldn't a christian have concerns of the city?
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- You know, jeremiah says, pray
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- For the peace of the city in which you dwell.
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- And then i just also say, when jesus was confronted with
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- What's the greatest commandment?
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- He says to love the lord your god
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- With all your heart, soul, strength.
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- And he says, the second is like it
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- Love your neighbor as yourself.
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- On these two commandments. hang along the prophet.
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- So don't you love your neighbor enough that you'd want them?
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- Growing up in a community where there's two sexes,
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- Where where they can grow up and not be given
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- Hormone blockers that are so inhumane,
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- They will give him the serial rapist in prison.
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- But you can give them
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- To a 15 year old in california without parental permission,
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- And they mutilate their body and call it health care.
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- And they lie to them and say it's loving
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- That they can become the opposite sex,
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- Which will never happen.
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- They call that health care. yeah.
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- We have to contend for our neighbor to love him
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- As ourself.
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- If i was in charge of evil
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- And i could convince the people of god and the people of faith
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- To not talk about god or their faith
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- Except when they were inside the church building.
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- Yeah, that's a strategy.
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- Well, there's been there's been ten great awakenings
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- In american history.
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- I should say there's been ten revivals in american history.
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- And up until 1870, they all resulted in an awakening.
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- So a revival is where a large group of people come to christ,
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- And then an awakening is where it changes the culture.
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- So in the
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- Early portion of our history, all these eastern
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- Seaboard pastors like whitfield and jonathan mayhew and duke,
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- Jonathan edwards,
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- They it's almost like
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- They had a news aggregate of all the stories of the day
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- And anything that the congregation or their neighbors,
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- Who they love more than themselves were dealing with.
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- The pastor would teach what the bible has to say
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- On, say, immigration, on transportation, on minimum wage.
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- They would teach their congregation and discipled them.
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- And so all sudden they come up with the
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- Freest form of government ever designed.
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- And it was first preached in the pulpit
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- With thomas hooker in connecticut
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- When he came up with self-governance
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- And electing people.
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- And so in 1870, they stopped
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- Discipling in accordance with matthew 28.
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- And it became about evangelism
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- And now you hear pastors say, oh,
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- I don't do politics, i just preach the gospel.
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- And that's gnosticism,
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- Where you separate the tainted from the holy.
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- And i just also finally say, when a pastor says,
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- I just preach the gospel,
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- You know, i don't do politics
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- Because politics is dirty and go, well,
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- Your life's dirty and you're trying to improve that.
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- Or they say, i'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
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- Unless jesus is running for office,
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- You're always voting for the lesser of two evils.
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- Quit making excuses as to why you can't love your neighbor
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- And do good for them.
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- And contend in the public.
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- Square the ecclesia by the way,
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- For the welfare of your neighbor.
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- I've heard you use that line a lot of times.
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- I think it's really helpful that unless jesus is on the ballot,
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- You're voting for the lesser of two evils. you know, always.
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- You know, there's i mean, elections aren't perfect.
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- No, but we still have the privilege of choosing.
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- We give authority to. that's right.
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- And we had better engage in that process,
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- Or we're abandoning the process
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- And we'll be held accountable for that.
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- Well, you know, when
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- When charlie was alive and we started.
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- Charlie kirk. yeah. charlie kirk,
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- Ours was the first church he ever preached in.
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- Because when i invited him to come and speak,
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- Because i've been traveling with him, he said,
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- I don't speak in church. i said, why not?
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- Charlie goes, they don't want me.
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- I'm too political.
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- I said, that's exactly where you're supposed to be.
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- And and he did so well.
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- And then,
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- You know,
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- He just launched into the
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- Christian world and spoke
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- Over a thousand churches in that period of time.
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- But we did a deep dive into matthew
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- 16 where jesus says, upon this rock, i'll build mine.
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- Everyone says church.
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- But if you notice in church history, tyndale
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- Translated that word correctly.
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- And for that one word he was hung
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- In, his remains were burned by the king.
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- And he jesus didn't use religious term.
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- He didn't say synagogue or temple.
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- He used a secular term that that goes
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- All the way back to aristotle and the etymology.
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- Ecclesia and tyndale translated assembly.
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- But i went to the ecclesia
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- In ephesus, in the ruins and above the door
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- Of the ecclesia, two words i sonoma. and now luther.
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- Yeah, liberty, inequality, and the ecclesia was
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- Where the citizens
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- Of the greek city state would gather to decide the laws
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- And the welfare of their neighbors.
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- So when jesus now says,
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- Upon this rock, i'll build my public square, my city hall,
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- And the gates of hell which enslave will not prevail.
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- When you apply the moral law, the civil law becomes a wise
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- Restrains it. make men free.
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- When you remove the moral law from civil law
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- Becomes a weapon to enslave.
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- It's no longer rule of law, it's rule by law.
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- And that's what we saw
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- In california, especially during covid.
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- The church, the bride of christ, is nonessential.
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- You're not allowed to be open.
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- But gratefully, there were some folks who stood up for that
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- And stood up to the men.
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- And i really think has opened a whole new door for the church.
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- I agree,
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- I think there's a new voice of courage that's emerging,
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- A new kind of determination.
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- You know,
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- When when dietrich bonhoeffer stood down, adolf hitler
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- And he said, i'm not concerned about my pension
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- Or the church building.
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- I'm concerned about the soul of germany.
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- And hitler said, leave that to me.
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- And all. the other pastor scooted away.
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- And bonhoeffer participated in two assassination attempts
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- Against hitler.
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- I mean, try to teach that in seminary.
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- It's.
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- But when
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- Before hitler shot eva braun and then shot himself,
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- Committing suicide, he he is one of his last
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- Directives was to make sure that bonhoeffer was dead.
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- But a person who was deeply moved by
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- That was a man who at first had embraced hitler
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- And that was martin mohler.
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- But he came around and became a voice, of opposition
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- And a lot of pastors in california.
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- At first they meant well,
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- They thought, romans 13, you submit to authority, right?
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- But as jonathan mayhew said, the eastern seaboard preacher
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- That adams john adams attributed with the war of independence
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- When he executed romans 13, which is what they invoked,
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- Saying you can't go against king george.
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- He's been appointed by god.
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- He says, you're
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- You're leaving out a portion of that scripture
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- That those authorities are there for a good.
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- And when they cease to do good, they cease to be
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- The authority is not unlimited submission to tyranny.
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- And so he said, disobedience to tyrants is obedience to god.
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- And he pointed out not for light or transient causes,
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- Which made it into the declaration of independence.
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- And they listed 27 reasons
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- That were not light or transient.
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- And that man was dead before the war of independence began.
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- But he had an enormous effect.
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- That's called an awakening. and and
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- This is another one that hit me,
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- The jesus movement, which started with
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- Calvary chapel's chuck smith, 1967
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- And it coincided with the sexual revolution.
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- Now a lot of people came to christ,
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- But there was no cultural change.
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- 86%, not 86, over 80%.
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- And i don't know the exact, but i know it's over 80%
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- Of christian women
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- Who've had an abortion did so after they became a christian.
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- There's no cultural change.
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- I mean, you
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- Professed faith in christ, but you haven't been discipled
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- With a christian worldview.
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- And that's what
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- That's what charlie kirk had such a powerful effect
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- On this, this generation of 18 to 30 year olds.
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- He discipled them before they came to christ.
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- I've got a stat down here
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- That i think you brought from george barna.
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- About the young men in the church.
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- Yeah. there's this bubble.
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- Yeah, 18 to 30 year old men, 18 to 30 year old men
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- Are now the largest segment of the evangelical church
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- In america
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- As a result of, i mean, 18 to 30 year olds won the election,
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- They first time conservative voters.
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- And that's like a, an imprint of a chick to a mother hen.
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- They're going to be conservative.
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- More conservative as time goes on.
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- And and yet these 18 to 30 year olds,
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- They, they started watching charlie on campus.
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- And i love the, the statement that a missionary goes
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- Where he's not loved but needed and leaves
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- And he's no longer needed but loved.
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- Charlie would go on campus and it would be charlie.
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- A handful of folks and a sea of detractors.
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- And at the end of his life, it was charlie,
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- A handful of folks and a sea of red hearts,
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- And everyone chanting charlie's name.
- 00:09:58.849 --> 00:10:01.151
- And he was civil.
- 00:10:01.151 --> 00:10:02.219
- He was kind. he was respectful.
- 00:10:02.219 --> 00:10:04.288
- He'd bring the detractors to the front of the line.
- 00:10:04.288 --> 00:10:06.990
- The microphone spent more time on his lap
- 00:10:06.990 --> 00:10:08.659
- Around the table than it did up at his mouth,
- 00:10:08.659 --> 00:10:10.427
- Because he listened.
- 00:10:10.427 --> 00:10:11.928
- And they just they loved him and he was expounding
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- On a christian worldview on transgenderism, abortion.
- 00:10:16.199 --> 00:10:19.336
- And and he was contending with logic and rhetoric and,
- 00:10:19.336 --> 00:10:22.372
- And reason and,
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- And so when he died,
- 00:10:25.342 --> 00:10:26.810
- All these people showed up
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- At church on that sunday because of charlie.
- 00:10:27.844 --> 00:10:30.147
- And there were some pastors in the country
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- That wouldn't even invoke his name.
- 00:10:31.748 --> 00:10:33.884
- We don't do politics.
- 00:10:34.384 --> 00:10:35.485
- We just preach the gospel when they were gnostics.
- 00:10:35.485 --> 00:10:38.588
- Yeah, that's what that's one word for it.
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- I have some others, but i'll leave it there.
- 00:10:40.090 --> 00:10:42.125
- Well, revelation 21
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- Says there's a special place for the cowardly.
- 00:10:43.260 --> 00:10:45.395
- I want to check that out.
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- It does, i guess.
- 00:10:46.330 --> 00:10:47.898
- Speaking of charlie, i watched
- 00:10:47.898 --> 00:10:50.600
- While you were with us the week before his memorial service,
- 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.137
- And then i got to watch you at that memorial service.
- 00:10:54.137 --> 00:10:56.306
- Preach the gospel to,
- 00:10:56.306 --> 00:10:58.275
- I think, arguably the largest crowd ever assembled.
- 00:10:58.275 --> 00:11:00.410
- To hear the gospel
- 00:11:00.410 --> 00:11:02.379
- Is a remarkable day.
- 00:11:02.379 --> 00:11:03.914
- I've never experienced anything like that.
- 00:11:03.914 --> 00:11:07.150
- I mean, it went for hours
- 00:11:07.718 --> 00:11:11.088
- And in the presence of the lord was unlike anything
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- I've ever experienced.
- 00:11:13.623 --> 00:11:15.425
- And, you know, i,
- 00:11:15.425 --> 00:11:16.560
- I should have every reason for being scared to death.
- 00:11:16.560 --> 00:11:18.829
- I mean, first of all, i'm not an evangelist.
- 00:11:18.829 --> 00:11:20.630
- I could do the work of an evangelist, but
- 00:11:20.630 --> 00:11:22.833
- And i didn't think i was going to be asked to speak and
- 00:11:22.833 --> 00:11:26.269
- Bless erica.
- 00:11:26.603 --> 00:11:27.838
- I mean, especially with all that
- 00:11:27.838 --> 00:11:29.039
- She's been through as of late and so much more.
- 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:31.742
- But that memorial service and the way it was ordered,
- 00:11:31.742 --> 00:11:36.680
- Politicians were preaching the gospel.
- 00:11:36.680 --> 00:11:39.349
- I mean, you know,
- 00:11:39.349 --> 00:11:41.385
- With clarity.
- 00:11:41.752 --> 00:11:42.619
- Yeah.
- 00:11:42.619 --> 00:11:43.720
- And donald trump jr, no expletives.
- 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:47.157
- And he actually invoked the lord tulsi gabbard
- 00:11:47.157 --> 00:11:50.360
- And marco rubio, man.
- 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:53.964
- I actually told an interview, i said, i'm going to go
- 00:11:53.964 --> 00:11:56.366
- Into politics.
- 00:11:56.366 --> 00:11:57.100
- He said, why?
- 00:11:57.100 --> 00:11:58.301
- And i said, because all the politicians are preachers now.
- 00:11:58.301 --> 00:12:00.837
- And it was just an amazing,
- 00:12:00.837 --> 00:12:02.906
- Well, when they were playing the cello
- 00:12:02.906 --> 00:12:05.575
- And all the signs came up that was not orchestrated.
- 00:12:05.575 --> 00:12:08.745
- It was a move of god's spirit.
- 00:12:09.346 --> 00:12:10.781
- You could sense his presence.
- 00:12:10.781 --> 00:12:12.349
- I still have chills recounting it.
- 00:12:12.349 --> 00:12:15.185
- And they say over a billion people.
- 00:12:15.185 --> 00:12:17.421
- Some estimate 1.7 billion people have watched it.
- 00:12:17.421 --> 00:12:20.891
- And they they figured there was almost 300,000 people on site.
- 00:12:20.891 --> 00:12:24.227
- And especially with the overflows,
- 00:12:24.227 --> 00:12:25.762
- It was incredible.
- 00:12:25.762 --> 00:12:27.798
- So from what was clearly a tragedy,
- 00:12:27.798 --> 00:12:30.434
- You know, god has brought forth something.
- 00:12:30.434 --> 00:12:32.636
- Amen.
- 00:12:32.636 --> 00:12:33.837
- And in that way, we serve the lord.
- 00:12:33.837 --> 00:12:35.305
- Yeah.
- 00:12:35.305 --> 00:12:36.173
- You know, we're these little brief,
- 00:12:36.173 --> 00:12:37.040
- Momentary blips on the face of history,
- 00:12:37.040 --> 00:12:40.410
- And god brings a meaning
- 00:12:40.410 --> 00:12:41.711
- And a significance to our lives that's so exceeds
- 00:12:41.711 --> 00:12:45.015
- What we think we are.
- 00:12:45.015 --> 00:12:46.016
- We're going to do
- 00:12:46.016 --> 00:12:47.384
- A man like charlie comes along 1 in 1000 years.
- 00:12:47.384 --> 00:12:51.021
- And he had 31 years on this earth.
- 00:12:51.755 --> 00:12:53.757
- And i remember him saying,
- 00:12:53.757 --> 00:12:56.359
- We're, you know, i'm immortal until god takes me home.
- 00:12:56.359 --> 00:12:59.930
- And he'd have death threats every day
- 00:12:59.930 --> 00:13:01.665
- And he'd get up and shake people's hands, smile.
- 00:13:01.665 --> 00:13:04.267
- He refused to have plexiglass, you know, bulletproof glass.
- 00:13:04.267 --> 00:13:08.505
- He just.
- 00:13:08.772 --> 00:13:09.840
- And and as i told one of them,
- 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:13.376
- Security detail, i said, you know,
- 00:13:13.376 --> 00:13:15.946
- Because they were told that the they had the text
- 00:13:15.946 --> 00:13:18.949
- That the university had the roofs covered.
- 00:13:18.949 --> 00:13:21.985
- And it was one of those things where, you know,
- 00:13:21.985 --> 00:13:24.421
- God was able to move trump's head.
- 00:13:24.421 --> 00:13:27.924
- God, you know that he works all things together for good.
- 00:13:27.924 --> 00:13:31.962
- We're all going home at some point.
- 00:13:31.962 --> 00:13:34.130
- And what that good will be in time is, is to be seen.
- 00:13:34.130 --> 00:13:37.267
- I do know this from the time charlie started turning point
- 00:13:37.267 --> 00:13:40.270
- At 18 to the lord, taking him home at 31,
- 00:13:40.270 --> 00:13:43.707
- You take everything he ever recorded a podcast,
- 00:13:43.707 --> 00:13:47.477
- Any videos, youtube, you take instagram x, all of it.
- 00:13:47.477 --> 00:13:52.182
- And from his death
- 00:13:52.616 --> 00:13:54.684
- To today,
- 00:13:54.985 --> 00:13:56.253
- Multiply this number by ten.
- 00:13:56.253 --> 00:13:59.322
- People who had never really heard of him
- 00:13:59.322 --> 00:14:00.790
- Went back and started watching everything he's done,
- 00:14:00.790 --> 00:14:03.960
- And it's had an enormous effect.
- 00:14:03.960 --> 00:14:05.395
- And then, of course, like the salem witch trials, what, 1692?
- 00:14:05.395 --> 00:14:10.467
- It was ended by a minister, increased mather.
- 00:14:11.434 --> 00:14:15.939
- But they used to invoked what they called spectral evidence.
- 00:14:15.939 --> 00:14:19.276
- Or i had a dream that this person's a witch.
- 00:14:19.276 --> 00:14:22.045
- And they said, no, you got to have two witnesses.
- 00:14:22.045 --> 00:14:24.581
- And when charlie died,
- 00:14:24.581 --> 00:14:26.550
- You know, charlie built turning point
- 00:14:26.550 --> 00:14:28.018
- And nothing more than the spoken word.
- 00:14:28.018 --> 00:14:30.487
- That's true.
- 00:14:30.487 --> 00:14:31.421
- And and he loved logos from chaos to order.
- 00:14:31.421 --> 00:14:36.493
- And only a carpenter
- 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.029
- Can build a barn door, but any donkey can knock one down.
- 00:14:39.029 --> 00:14:42.866
- So charlie then goes to be with the lord,
- 00:14:42.866 --> 00:14:45.769
- And all that's left is this cacophony of noise of donkeys.
- 00:14:45.769 --> 00:14:49.306
- They're just knocking down barn doors,
- 00:14:50.073 --> 00:14:52.075
- And they're the only thing they're building
- 00:14:52.075 --> 00:14:54.411
- Is their followers in their bank account.
- 00:14:54.411 --> 00:14:56.913
- Charlie change lives.
- 00:14:56.913 --> 00:14:58.515
- He led people to christ.
- 00:14:58.515 --> 00:15:00.083
- These others, they're just trying to divide the nation.
- 00:15:00.083 --> 00:15:03.153
- And it's they're now judge, jury and executioner.
- 00:15:03.153 --> 00:15:06.923
- Some of these talk show folks, they're there, judge.
- 00:15:06.923 --> 00:15:09.025
- They've judged you because they're throwing up
- 00:15:09.025 --> 00:15:10.994
- Speculation and innuendo and guilt by association.
- 00:15:10.994 --> 00:15:15.198
- Their jury is their followers and their executioners
- 00:15:15.198 --> 00:15:18.735
- Especially, you know, for my son
- 00:15:18.735 --> 00:15:20.370
- And for erica and even myself, not as much as them.
- 00:15:20.370 --> 00:15:23.707
- One of these folks
- 00:15:23.707 --> 00:15:24.941
- Who have threatened to take our life may make good on it.
- 00:15:24.941 --> 00:15:28.445
- Judge, jury and executioner, just like the salem witch trials
- 00:15:28.445 --> 00:15:31.348
- And any christian participating in that.
- 00:15:31.348 --> 00:15:33.650
- It's a carnal christian soap opera.
- 00:15:33.650 --> 00:15:36.319
- And some of these folks are making $800,000 a week on that.
- 00:15:36.319 --> 00:15:39.522
- That misery.
- 00:15:39.522 --> 00:15:42.258
- You look out for the widow and the orphan,
- 00:15:42.258 --> 00:15:43.627
- And that's what you're going to do to him. okay.
- 00:15:43.627 --> 00:15:45.962
- And you're going to claim the name of christ.
- 00:15:45.962 --> 00:15:47.497
- Yeah. okay.
- 00:15:47.497 --> 00:15:49.199
- It's tragic,
- 00:15:49.199 --> 00:15:51.501
- I agree,
- 00:15:51.501 --> 00:15:53.136
- I agree.
- 00:15:53.136 --> 00:15:54.104
- And the one thing we can do is stop listening.
- 00:15:54.104 --> 00:15:56.239
- That's right.
- 00:15:56.239 --> 00:15:57.107
- We must stop.
- 00:15:57.107 --> 00:15:58.041
- Let's stop. stop eating the rat poison.
- 00:15:58.041 --> 00:16:00.377
- Turn away. look away.
- 00:16:00.377 --> 00:16:01.911
- Stop listening.
- 00:16:01.911 --> 00:16:03.947
- Don't carry the gossip.
- 00:16:03.947 --> 00:16:05.715
- Another generation further.
- 00:16:05.715 --> 00:16:08.184
- Amen.
- 00:16:08.184 --> 00:16:09.519
- It's not easy.
- 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:10.553
- Your soap operas would have been on television
- 00:16:10.553 --> 00:16:11.788
- For as many decades as they've been. yeah.
- 00:16:11.788 --> 00:16:13.790
- Everybody wants deeper knowledge. yes. oh, you.
- 00:16:13.790 --> 00:16:16.159
- We have the end today. and we're going to
- 00:16:16.159 --> 00:16:17.494
- Show the receipts and they've got nothing.
- 00:16:17.494 --> 00:16:19.896
- They say, i never said that. and yes, you did.
- 00:16:19.896 --> 00:16:21.698
- It's just you played every day.
- 00:16:21.698 --> 00:16:23.767
- Well, i double checked.
- 00:16:23.767 --> 00:16:25.035
- God hasn't retired.
- 00:16:25.035 --> 00:16:26.603
- Nope.
- 00:16:26.603 --> 00:16:27.570
- Charlie wasn't the only agenda in the earth.
- 00:16:27.570 --> 00:16:29.272
- The spirit of god is still here.
- 00:16:29.272 --> 00:16:31.107
- You know, the lord didn't go. oh, no. charlie's dead.
- 00:16:31.107 --> 00:16:33.209
- What do we do now? god knows what he's doing.
- 00:16:33.209 --> 00:16:41.595
- What do we do now? god knows what he's doing.
- 00:16:41.595 --> 00:16:46.150
- I went to a roberts university and i was there.
- 00:16:47.084 --> 00:16:50.154
- I think it was oral 60th birthday.
- 00:16:50.154 --> 00:16:51.588
- They got us all together.
- 00:16:51.588 --> 00:16:53.290
- And he said, god has shown me that your ministry will exceed
- 00:16:53.290 --> 00:16:56.427
- Mine. amen.
- 00:16:56.427 --> 00:16:57.828
- And then he smiled and he said,
- 00:16:57.828 --> 00:16:58.929
- But it's going to take more than one of you.
- 00:16:58.929 --> 00:17:03.467
- And i love that.
- 00:17:03.867 --> 00:17:04.968
- I need to put in the hearts of the young men that
- 00:17:04.968 --> 00:17:06.870
- They're going to do more than what they've watched,
- 00:17:06.870 --> 00:17:09.039
- And they should
- 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:10.240
- They should build on what they have seen and experienced.
- 00:17:10.240 --> 00:17:12.342
- We expect them to exceed whatever our lives represent.
- 00:17:12.342 --> 00:17:16.980
- It's kind of i think it was hezekiah
- 00:17:16.980 --> 00:17:20.084
- Who said when he was given the prophecy
- 00:17:20.084 --> 00:17:22.920
- Because he had shown all of the the treasures in the store,
- 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.790
- In the
- 00:17:26.790 --> 00:17:28.325
- In the temple
- 00:17:28.692 --> 00:17:30.427
- And the and he said, your
- 00:17:30.427 --> 00:17:33.330
- Your sons will be carted off as eunuchs to another land.
- 00:17:33.330 --> 00:17:38.001
- He goes, how long is that?
- 00:17:38.569 --> 00:17:39.269
- 15 years.
- 00:17:39.269 --> 00:17:40.204
- He goes, well, what you what you say is good.
- 00:17:40.204 --> 00:17:43.073
- I'm thinking what?
- 00:17:43.507 --> 00:17:45.008
- He goes, because there will be peace in my lifetime.
- 00:17:45.008 --> 00:17:48.512
- You know, we have to realize that,
- 00:17:48.512 --> 00:17:51.548
- That we're we need to leave it better than we found it.
- 00:17:51.548 --> 00:17:54.918
- And, and at this age, it's not to have a drink
- 00:17:54.918 --> 00:17:57.087
- With an umbrella on a beach somewhere.
- 00:17:57.087 --> 00:17:59.423
- We need to be working harder than we've ever worked.
- 00:17:59.423 --> 00:18:02.226
- And it doesn't mean to take a winnebago
- 00:18:02.226 --> 00:18:04.228
- And travel the country and go through buffet lines in vegas.
- 00:18:04.228 --> 00:18:07.464
- It means to pour into the next generation and,
- 00:18:07.464 --> 00:18:12.002
- You know, i had a coach,
- 00:18:12.536 --> 00:18:15.372
- Who used to say,
- 00:18:15.773 --> 00:18:18.275
- Treat your opponent and your teammate like they were jesus.
- 00:18:18.275 --> 00:18:21.545
- But he also said
- 00:18:21.545 --> 00:18:22.613
- The purpose of sports, as you look to your opponent
- 00:18:22.613 --> 00:18:26.183
- And you say,
- 00:18:26.517 --> 00:18:27.751
- If you're going to win today, you're going to have to have
- 00:18:27.751 --> 00:18:29.787
- The best race you've ever had, because i am going to swim you.
- 00:18:29.787 --> 00:18:33.423
- And if you beat me,
- 00:18:33.891 --> 00:18:35.092
- You're going to have to go faster than you've ever gone.
- 00:18:35.092 --> 00:18:37.361
- And that's pushing each other to accomplish
- 00:18:37.361 --> 00:18:39.596
- Levels of excellence.
- 00:18:39.596 --> 00:18:41.431
- And that's what we're saying to this young generation.
- 00:18:41.431 --> 00:18:42.933
- We're not going to sit back on our laurels and relax
- 00:18:42.933 --> 00:18:44.835
- And get a drink with an umbrella on a beach somewhere.
- 00:18:44.835 --> 00:18:47.404
- For you and me, this is the most exciting time.
- 00:18:47.404 --> 00:18:49.540
- We're going to challenge him and push him.
- 00:18:49.540 --> 00:18:51.675
- And yeah, i'm tired.
- 00:18:51.675 --> 00:18:53.844
- I get tired in the word, but not of it.
- 00:18:53.844 --> 00:18:56.146
- And i want to set a schedule that those guys are like,
- 00:18:56.146 --> 00:18:58.515
- If that 60 year old guy can do it, i'm ready.
- 00:18:59.383 --> 00:19:01.151
- Let's roll.
- 00:19:01.151 --> 00:19:02.085
- Oh yeah.
- 00:19:02.085 --> 00:19:03.253
- President trump is, i think, perfect
- 00:19:03.253 --> 00:19:05.455
- Example called all of us on the carpet for our schedules.
- 00:19:05.455 --> 00:19:09.326
- Seriously, that guy sleeps four hours a day.
- 00:19:09.326 --> 00:19:12.462
- He's insane.
- 00:19:12.462 --> 00:19:13.831
- But you know, i think your point is well taken and deserves.
- 00:19:13.831 --> 00:19:16.800
- It's got to be highlighted.
- 00:19:16.800 --> 00:19:17.901
- Every season of life.
- 00:19:17.901 --> 00:19:19.670
- There is a secular excuse for being ungodly.
- 00:19:19.670 --> 00:19:23.207
- You know, in your high school,
- 00:19:23.807 --> 00:19:25.142
- Years are the best years of your life.
- 00:19:25.142 --> 00:19:26.443
- You're college years go so you're wild oats,
- 00:19:26.443 --> 00:19:29.079
- You're newly married or a young parent.
- 00:19:29.079 --> 00:19:30.814
- Well, that's your time.
- 00:19:30.814 --> 00:19:32.149
- You need to be focused on that'll follow you all the way.
- 00:19:32.149 --> 00:19:34.618
- Every generation of every season has an excuse
- 00:19:34.618 --> 00:19:37.955
- To be self-centered and selfish and carnal,
- 00:19:37.955 --> 00:19:41.291
- And we have to make a decision in every one of those seasons
- 00:19:41.291 --> 00:19:43.627
- Not to ignore our responsibility of the season,
- 00:19:43.627 --> 00:19:46.430
- But to honor god in the midst of that season.
- 00:19:46.430 --> 00:19:48.298
- You only do those every life series.
- 00:19:48.298 --> 00:19:50.200
- You only get it one time. yeah.
- 00:19:50.200 --> 00:19:52.069
- Why not honor god and every one of those seasons of your life?
- 00:19:52.069 --> 00:19:54.738
- There's a statement about david
- 00:19:54.738 --> 00:19:55.873
- In the book of acts is one of my favorite.
- 00:19:55.873 --> 00:19:57.407
- God said of david.
- 00:19:57.407 --> 00:19:58.742
- He would do anything i ask him to do that
- 00:19:58.742 --> 00:20:01.578
- David stepped in some holes.
- 00:20:01.578 --> 00:20:02.846
- God knows he did.
- 00:20:02.846 --> 00:20:04.281
- And and he god told his story.
- 00:20:04.281 --> 00:20:06.884
- But i pray it said of you and me
- 00:20:06.884 --> 00:20:08.819
- When we see the lord,
- 00:20:08.819 --> 00:20:09.786
- That we would do whatever he ask us to do,
- 00:20:09.786 --> 00:20:11.755
- I can't think of a greater compliment.
- 00:20:11.755 --> 00:20:13.590
- I got to know you well
- 00:20:13.590 --> 00:20:16.627
- Over the
- 00:20:16.894 --> 00:20:17.861
- Television and over the internet, i watch this.
- 00:20:17.861 --> 00:20:20.230
- I'm better on tv because there's a mute button.
- 00:20:20.230 --> 00:20:21.832
- Yeah.
- 00:20:21.832 --> 00:20:22.766
- Mute button, i don't know, but i but i just
- 00:20:22.766 --> 00:20:25.802
- To to meet you in person and then call you my friend.
- 00:20:25.802 --> 00:20:29.539
- It it's, it's one of these things where
- 00:20:29.539 --> 00:20:32.509
- You didn't disappoint.
- 00:20:32.509 --> 00:20:34.511
- Who you are in public is who you are in private and in.
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- The wonderful thing about that is these young ministers
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- Are looking for something tangible.
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- And that's our responsibility is not to let them down.
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- We have to finish well.
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- And i, i want this to be the best segment of my life.
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- I want to set a good example for them.
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- I want to do it right. amen.
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- And it takes god's help to do that.
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- Amen. the same way to god's help
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- To honor him in those other seasons.
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- I used to say to the lord,
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- When there's a sin that would easily beset
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- Me and said, god, take this from here, kill me.
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- And i never forget what he told me. he just spoke to my heart.
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- He said, rob, you're already dying.
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- Why don't you give it to me and live?
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- To say.
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- To say.
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- There's some challenges and some heartaches
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- We've had to overcome and some losses.
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- But i don't know that i've ever felt a greater hope.
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- Same here.
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- God's moving in the earth.
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- I say it a lot, but,
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- I mean, it's almost impossible to keep up with.
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- Yeah.
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- So if you're going to get to talk to the folks,
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- What are you going to say to them?
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- You're going to be in a world of information overload,
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- And you're going to
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- Have to figure out what's true and what's false.
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- You're going to be involved in psyops, where they're going
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- To be trying to persuade you and and control you.
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- The greatest filter
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- Is to spend time in a hard copy of the word of god.
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- And don't go to church on the internet.
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- Go fellowship.
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- Do not forsake fellowshipping with the saints.
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- People can hold you accountable and see you face to face.
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- Live a real life with tangible human beings in front of you.
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- But read god's word.
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- It's good.
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- Preacher
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- Charlie would spend,
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- His devotion every morning first
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- And then two hours and topics pertinent 18 to 30 year olds.
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- He would study to show himself approved and take a sabbath.
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- Take time off.
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- Beware the barrenness of a busy life,
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- And everybody's going to be fine.
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- You're going to have that filter and you'll be able to
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- To discern between what's right and what's wrong.
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- It's true and what's false.
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