Allen Jackson: Culture & Christianity Conference 2025 (Part 3)| Allen Jackson Now

October 23, 2025 | 22:40

Allen Jackson is joined by a panel of guests to discuss shaping culture in America.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Culture & Christianity Conference 2025 (Part 3)| Allen Jackson Now | October 23, 2025
  • A lot of people are saying, you know, it's
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  • The seeds of revival, the beginning of a revival.
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  • I pray that's true.
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  • But revival isn't going to be tracked by big public worship.
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  • Services are great crowds.
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  • Even revival, ultimately
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  • Is about the transformation
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  • Of human lives, and it's most evident
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  • In the transformation of human behavior.
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  • And i think a part of the question is,
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  • How do we recognize it when we see it?
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  • We just hosted a conference here on our campus in murfreesboro
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  • Regarding culture and christianity,
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  • And one of the segments we spent a half
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  • We spent a whole afternoon
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  • With a group of pastor friends of mine
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  • Talking about culture and christianity.
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  • Then we did a panel discussion.
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  • That's what i want to share with you,
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  • Because we were talking about revival.
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  • What that looks like, what it will feel like historically.
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  • It's not what we would expect.
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  • The pastors are friends of mine rob mccoy,
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  • Doctor george grant, john hammond, chuck gary hamrick,
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  • Some remarkable leaders of the church in our nation.
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  • I believe the panel discussion will open our imagination
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  • To what we're looking for god
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  • To be doing in this immediate season.
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  • God is moving in the earth,
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  • But it's going to take understanding hearts
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  • And our ability to see in some new ways
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  • To be able to participate.
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  • Enjoy the discussion.
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  • You guys are political.
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  • And. so
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  • Is our savior.
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  • I think it's safe to say that
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  • In the season that we've been in ministry,
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  • We have seen a significant change in the church,
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  • How it's presented, how it's understood, that feel like
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  • I mean, i think most of us would say that.
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  • So the question i don't want to bemoan
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  • That the question on the table is,
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  • What does it look like for it to be different?
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  • And we've got a few minutes and i want to use
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  • Some of the ideas you shared.
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  • But that's really
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  • I want to go away from here
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  • With an imagination of what we're looking for.
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  • You know, when covid, when we first heard about covid
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  • And we were gathering outside, i remember saying to the church,
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  • We need to know what we're looking for.
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  • We're looking for breakthroughs that the death rate
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  • Isn't what they say it's going to be, that there's
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  • That there's interventions, that there's treatments that
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  • What is it we're looking for, what we're asking god.
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  • And what is it we're looking for?
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  • Is the church.
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  • Stop sitting in churches that deny the truth,
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  • That don't honor the scripture.
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  • They don't honor the uniqueness of jesus
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  • And praying for him to change.
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  • But that's as foolish.
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  • Is going to a bad restaurant and praying they get a new chef.
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  • It really is.
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  • So what i
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  • What i want us to take these next
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  • Few minutes is to come away with some imagination
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  • Of what it is we're looking for, because god begins to move.
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  • How are we to, oh that's god.
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  • George, you
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  • Talked about the conspiracy, the robes,
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  • Judges, colleges, ministers.
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  • So what's it look like if we see god begin to move in
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  • Those arenas to make that difference?
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  • How do we know?
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  • Because it's got to change.
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  • We got a university of this community.
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  • It has to change. yeah.
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  • One of the things that charlie did so well
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  • Was he called out the powers and the principalities,
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  • But he didn't call them out to just tear them down.
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  • He called them out to say, okay, all of you
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  • Who now see that the emperor has no clothes, you go forth
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  • And you take their place, stand in their stead.
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  • In a sense,
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  • What we've got to do is we've got to call the church
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  • To its place in the culture
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  • And say, let's aspire
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  • To do what jesus called us to do, to be what
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  • Jesus has called us to be in every single arena.
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  • And let's take back the robes.
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  • Not because we want the pomp and ceremony,
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  • But because we are charged with the task
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  • To disciple the nations.
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  • We've been we've been gathering in small groups, discipling
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  • One another in a holy huddle.
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  • But it's time for us
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  • To go to the nations and disciple the nations
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  • And teach them everything that jesus has taught us,
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  • Knowing that he is with us to the end of the age.
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  • What does it look like?
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  • It looks like calling on our young men and women and saying,
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  • You're next. we want to prepare you.
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  • We want to fill your minds with the facts, with the reality.
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  • We want you to read the right books.
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  • We want you to,
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  • Begin to memorize scripture so that it's hidden in your heart.
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  • And then you go forth to war
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  • With.
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  • Jerry, i'm sure that your congregation
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  • Is populated with the deep state actors and elected people.
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  • And god bless you.
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  • What does it look like if we see god moving in that arena?
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  • What are we watching for?
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  • We think it's fantastic.
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  • You know, what we're looking for,
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  • I think, is just a good old fashioned
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  • Great awakening, the jesus revolution of the 70s.
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  • We are due for another great awakening, another great
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  • Revival, and.
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  • In as the lord is choosing to use
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  • Charlie's murder to accomplish that and
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  • Praise god,
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  • I mean, he uses
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  • All different things to accomplish his divine purposes,
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  • Even when we can't understand it in the moment.
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  • But, you know, politically,
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  • The deep state, washington, d.c.
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  • On a positive note,
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  • There are some strong brothers and sisters on capitol hill.
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  • I'm part of a personal prayer team for speaker johnson. and,
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  • There are
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  • Things happening in our nation's capital
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  • That i can just tell you are wonderful testimonies
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  • Of god's amazing grace and the move of his holy spirit
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  • And we need to be praying for our elected leaders.
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  • What it say to timothy who said, pray for those
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  • All in authority for kings and all those in authority,
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  • That we might live
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  • Peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.
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  • So pray for all our elected leaders,
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  • Whether we like them or not, whether we voted for them
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  • Or not.
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  • We have a mandate, a charge to pray for our elected leaders
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  • So we can see the spirit of god move in washington, dc
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  • And in the hearts of our elected leaders.
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  • My lifetime has been filled with language
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  • About racial reconciliation,
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  • Appropriately so.
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  • There's a lot of work to do.
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  • But it seems to me
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  • In recent times we are more divided
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  • Than we've ever been along racial lines.
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  • So if we're going to look for god to move in that arena,
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  • I'm sure you've got some clarity on that.
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  • What are we looking for?
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  • What are we going to say?
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  • And that's god,
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  • Because we've been told
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  • A lot of things are god
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  • That don't have anything to do with god.
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  • Well, i really think that understanding that we're all
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  • One race
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  • Is the first thing.
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  • One race.
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  • And there are many different ethnicities
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  • That come out of this one race,
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  • But we are one race and we're also one blood,
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  • And we don't need $2 and $3 and $5
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  • Quote terms to help us bring about unity.
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  • What we need is simple, basic
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  • Scriptures love your neighbor as yourself,
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  • And it's just this is the simplicity of the gospel
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  • That brings about true racial reconciliation,
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  • Knowing that we're all in need of a savior, knowing that
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  • Racism is not a skin tone or a color, but it's sin.
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  • It's sin.
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  • And that sin
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  • Can put you in a position where you are estranged from god.
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  • And so if you harbor the sin of racism,
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  • Then you need to repent for that.
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  • A big handclap goes there.
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  • And i say that racism is not a skin tone or color,
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  • Because we have this viewpoint that only whites can be
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  • Racist.
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  • Blacks can be racist.
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  • Hispanics can be racist.
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  • Asians can be racist.
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  • Indians can be racist.
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  • Pacific islanders, native americans, others.
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  • It's a choice.
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  • It's a choice to love or a choice to hate.
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  • Yeah.
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  • And so we can try to trivialize how we address this,
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  • But we must make sure that we don't propagate
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  • The very thing that god abhors. god
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  • Is not a respecter of persons.
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  • We're all equally in need of a savior.
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  • We're equal at the foot of the cross.
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  • And so we should unite with one
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  • Another because it's godly to do so.
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  • And it represents
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  • True christian beauty and holiness.
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  • Now there are people who profit from the division.
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  • We call these people race baiters and race hustlers.
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  • These are the al sharpton's and the jesse jackson's
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  • And the joe biden
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  • And the nick fuentes is
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  • I can go on and on.
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  • These people make money off of creating.
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  • Anarchy and rebellion and hatred.
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  • And it's a tool of marxism.
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  • That's what it is, that in order for marxism to thrive,
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  • There has to be the oppressor versus the oppressed dynamic,
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  • The rich versus the poor, blacks versus white, straight,
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  • Straight people versus gays, the vaxed versus
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  • The unvaccinated, so on and so forth.
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  • And so we have to tear down the idol of racism
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  • By embracing that we are one race, that we are one blood,
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  • And that we all are in need of a holy savior.
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  • And that we all are in need of a holy savior.
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  • But i know there's not a
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  • Simple answer to this, but if we're looking for
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  • When god begins to move, what are we watching for?
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  • This is not charlie on campus now.
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  • We had a completely different imagination two weeks ago.
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  • And you're closer to this.
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  • You got family involved.
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  • It's personal to you,
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  • And i know the answer will change as we walk forward.
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  • But from today, what are you looking for?
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  • Well, first of all, i feel like a mule at the kentucky derby.
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  • I'm not going to win, but i'm in mighty fine company.
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  • Yeah, yeah.
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  • That's huge.
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  • I feel like one of you. i'm listening to them.
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  • I'm like, oh, i have to speak.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Moving forward, i think what what
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  • What charlie's inspired and what he's he's done.
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  • I think this rests
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  • On the pulpits of america.
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  • Charlie saw turning point moving.
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  • But he knew, as alexis de tocqueville said,
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  • That america is great because america is good.
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  • And when it ceases to be good, it will cease to be great.
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  • And he look for america's greatness
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  • In his seaports and our cities of commerce.
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  • But it wasn't until he saw the pulpits aflame
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  • With the righteousness that he saw what made america good.
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  • And as i said in my my presentation earlier,
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  • We've we've embraced a modern day gnosticism,
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  • And the pastors need to step into the public square.
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  • They have to step into the ecclesia and contend for
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  • For the welfare of their neighbor.
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  • And and a lot of them are hesitant.
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  • They,
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  • I'll give you an example, pastor gary and i are calvary chapel
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  • Pastors, and pastor chuck
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  • Started calvary chapel in 1967,
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  • And in 1967, in california, we had the fourth largest gdp.
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  • Reagan was governor.
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  • We just completed the california aqueduct,
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  • Which was a marvel in civil engineering,
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  • Bringing the water from the sierras to the san
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  • Joaquin valley,
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  • Which produces more cotton than the entire south combined.
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  • It is the wealthiest, with natural resources
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  • Of any state in the union is beautiful.
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  • You can you can be surfing in the morning.
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  • I've done this snow skiing in the afternoon and dirt
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  • Bike riding in the desert at sunset in one day.
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  • It is a beautiful state.
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  • And as is, congressman mcclintock said, what can cause
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  • People to leave the beauty of california for the
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  • The deserts of nevada and the flatlands of texas.
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  • And he said one thing bad government.
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  • So chuck comes in in
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  • 1967 and in 67, we had the my lai massacre.
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  • Reverend doctor martin luther
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  • King jr was shot on a balcony in memphis, tennessee.
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  • Bobby kennedy was shot by sirhan sirhan in l.a.
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  • All these young people had checked out of the churches.
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  • All their heroes were dead.
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  • That had given the promised them hope.
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  • They checked out of the churches
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  • That weren't addressing the issues
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  • And tuned in to eastern religion and experimental drug use.
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  • And they ended up a wash in california
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  • On the shores of california, burned out,
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  • And chuck and k
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  • Looked out at a sea of
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  • Burned out humanity and began to minister to these hippies.
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  • And he avoided politics because they were so burned out
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  • That he
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  • He just taught the bible verse by verse, chapter
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  • By chapter, book
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  • By book, kept the main thing, the plain thing
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  • And the plain thing, the main thing.
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  • And we experienced 10,000% growth since 1967.
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  • There's over 1800 calvary chapels around the world,
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  • One of the largest mission movements in modern history.
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  • And and yet, how did it affect california?
  • 00:14:39.636 --> 00:14:43.707
  • Because he avoided politics. out. don't have that california.
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  • We don't have the fourth largest gdp.
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  • We now have the fifth, maybe six.
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  • We have the highest gas tax, sales
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  • Tax, income tax, corporate tax.
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  • We lead the nation in debt.
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  • You can buy in the next four largest states.
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  • That doesn't equal the debt of california.
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  • We're the authors of no fault divorce that reagan,
  • 00:14:57.587 --> 00:15:00.657
  • Signed into law, said it was the worst piece
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  • Of legislation
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  • Caused divorce to run rampant across the country.
  • 00:15:03.626 --> 00:15:06.896
  • And here's here's the kicker.
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  • We have the most vile,
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  • Sexual education curriculum.
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  • I mean, you can't even read a page of it
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  • Where the transgender bathroom bills and then here's the worst.
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  • We lead the nation in abortion.
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  • Well, and, melissa,
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  • We don't just rip the baby apart in the womb of its mother
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  • And flush its parts into the sewer system of the state.
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  • We harvest the organs.
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  • Before we do that, we make nazi germany look like girl scouts.
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  • And the lion's share of those 1800
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  • Churches are in california,
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  • And we preach the gospel and we call for christ every sunday.
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  • And there's a harvest of souls. greg.
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  • Glory, harvest, crusades, somebody loves you.
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  • Crusades as raw. reese.
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  • We see people coming to christ all the time,
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  • But we avoid politics.
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  • And that's the reason.
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  • Where's the power that gospel
  • 00:15:54.744 --> 00:15:56.279
  • Children are being mutilated and harvested.
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  • And i think the pastors need to awaken that.
  • 00:16:00.350 --> 00:16:02.452
  • When jesus said in matthew 16, upon this rock, i'll build
  • 00:16:02.452 --> 00:16:06.689
  • My church, he was saying, this up accessory is a philippi
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  • Where that's the most resplendent place
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  • To park like
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  • Setting in every everyone that's ever conquered the region
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  • Set up a temple to their god or goddess,
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  • And he brings his disciples up from the galilee.
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  • And there's a spark like setting in the cacophony of noise
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  • Of roman pagan worship, with back as the god of alcohol
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  • And aphrodite, goddess of sexual, probably drunken nudity.
  • 00:16:25.675 --> 00:16:28.244
  • He turns to these disciples jesus, who to men say that i am.
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  • And they say, some say you're john the baptist.
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  • I say, jeremiah says, but who?
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  • Who do you say that i am? it's. peter says, you're the messiah.
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  • You're the savior of the world.
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  • He says, blessed are you, son of our jonah.
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  • Flesh and blood son revealed this to my father in heaven.
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  • Upon this rock i will build mine.
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  • Everyone says church. that's not the word.
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  • Jesus didn't use a religious term.
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  • He didn't say synagogue or temple.
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  • He deliberately used a secular term
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  • That aristotle had coined 200 years or 400 years earlier.
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  • He said, ecclesia.
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  • The ecclesia was a place where the citizens of the greek city
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  • State would gather to decide
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  • The welfare of the citizens of their community,
  • 00:17:02.145 --> 00:17:06.182
  • And above the door of every ecclesia was illusory,
  • 00:17:06.182 --> 00:17:08.251
  • A nice enemy of liberty and equality,
  • 00:17:08.251 --> 00:17:10.019
  • And and somehow, in the last 50 years, we have stepped
  • 00:17:11.054 --> 00:17:14.424
  • Out of the public square and truncated the gospel.
  • 00:17:14.424 --> 00:17:17.594
  • And it's this nation, and the gospel is if the gospel
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  • Is the most important thing, which it is,
  • 00:17:21.231 --> 00:17:23.633
  • Preaching the gospel is the most important thing.
  • 00:17:23.633 --> 00:17:25.368
  • The second most important thing is protecting the government
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  • That allows the preaching of that gospel.
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  • Churches have to start doing this.
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  • Churches have to start doing this.
  • 00:17:42.004 --> 00:17:46.897
  • Just to piggyback on that,
  • 00:17:47.464 --> 00:17:50.534
  • Challenged by a quote from martin luther, and he said,
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  • If you preach the gospel in all aspects
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  • Without addressing the issues of your time,
  • 00:17:56.773 --> 00:18:00.010
  • You are not preaching the gospel at all.
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  • We're.
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  • Okay.
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  • But here's the awkward reality.
  • 00:18:08.151 --> 00:18:10.086
  • What you're describing is a minority position.
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  • The overwhelming majority of the churches
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  • We spend our lives in the church
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  • Avoid this like the plague.
  • 00:18:17.260 --> 00:18:20.597
  • And there's all sorts of fancy language.
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  • We don't want a theocracy.
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  • So let's talk about it just a minute to give the people
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  • Some ideas to take away,
  • 00:18:31.007 --> 00:18:33.076
  • Because they're going that's going to be pushed back at that.
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  • Your church is just trying to dominate politics.
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  • You're trying to take over a community.
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  • You want a theocracy, you can't legislate morality,
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  • Blah blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  • Can i go to the.
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  • Here's the thing.
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  • The only thing that you can legislate is morality.
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  • That's what legislation is.
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  • Legislation says this is right.
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  • This is wrong.
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  • The question is which morality?
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  • That's it.
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  • All legislation
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  • Is the legislating of morality.
  • 00:19:16.519 --> 00:19:19.589
  • The big boogeyman right now
  • 00:19:20.190 --> 00:19:21.992
  • Is christian nationalism.
  • 00:19:21.992 --> 00:19:25.428
  • And the truth is, is that
  • 00:19:25.996 --> 00:19:28.031
  • Christ told us to go and disciple all the nations.
  • 00:19:28.031 --> 00:19:33.536
  • We want christian nationalism in uganda.
  • 00:19:33.536 --> 00:19:37.540
  • We want christian nationalism in argentina.
  • 00:19:37.540 --> 00:19:41.311
  • We want christian nationalism in
  • 00:19:41.311 --> 00:19:44.614
  • Every nation on the face of the earth.
  • 00:19:44.614 --> 00:19:47.851
  • John knox's great cry at the reformation was lord,
  • 00:19:47.851 --> 00:19:52.522
  • Give us scotland or we die.
  • 00:19:52.522 --> 00:19:56.493
  • I stood in a mosque, at the invitation of
  • 00:19:56.493 --> 00:19:59.929
  • A new man in, slavonia, iraq.
  • 00:19:59.929 --> 00:20:04.634
  • I said, what do you want me to preach on?
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  • He said, don't tell us about your isa.
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  • Of course.
  • 00:20:09.406 --> 00:20:10.540
  • Tell us about your jesus.
  • 00:20:10.540 --> 00:20:12.742
  • And i concluded my sermon with,
  • 00:20:12.742 --> 00:20:15.512
  • Lord, give us iraq
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  • Or we die, if that's what christian nationalism is,
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  • Then lord, give it to us.
  • 00:20:23.887 --> 00:20:35.008
  • Then lord, give it to us.
  • 00:20:35.008 --> 00:20:39.168
  • Christian nationalism.
  • 00:20:39.635 --> 00:20:41.970
  • The left labels you and the church
  • 00:20:41.970 --> 00:20:44.073
  • Feels like a cheap suit.
  • 00:20:44.073 --> 00:20:45.774
  • And so you can't combine the two.
  • 00:20:45.774 --> 00:20:48.310
  • I'm a christian husband.
  • 00:20:48.310 --> 00:20:50.145
  • I can love two things at the same time.
  • 00:20:50.145 --> 00:20:52.448
  • I can love god and my wife.
  • 00:20:52.448 --> 00:20:53.782
  • I can love god and my country.
  • 00:20:53.782 --> 00:20:55.984
  • He. paul, was a christian nationalist.
  • 00:20:55.984 --> 00:20:58.053
  • He he he invoked the laws of rome
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  • And the rights of a roman citizen.
  • 00:21:01.423 --> 00:21:04.059
  • He knew his country better than we know our own.
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