Allen Jackson: Culture & Christianity Conference 2025 (Part 4)| Allen Jackson Now

October 24, 2025 | 23:32

Allen Jackson is joined by a panel of guests to discuss shaping culture in America.

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  • Christian nationalism.
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  • The left labels you and the church
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  • Feels like a cheap suit, and so you can't combine the two.
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  • I'm a christian husband.
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  • I can love two things at the same time.
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  • I can love god and my wife.
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  • I can love god and my country.
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  • Paul was a christian national and he he invoked
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  • The laws of rome and the rights of a roman citizen.
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  • He knew his country better than we know our own.
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  • And if you want to talk about a theocracy, there's over 50
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  • Nations worldwide that have a majority muslim population,
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  • And 17 of them do not allow the bible
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  • To be publicly read, forbidden.
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  • Some of those are over 95% muslim.
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  • In america, we have the freedom of religion.
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  • It's not a theocracy.
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  • They use that term because they they took
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  • They took the first 16 words of, of the, of the bill of rights,
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  • Of the first amendment and for over 200 years
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  • It was clearly understood that it was the freedom of religion.
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  • But then they called it the separation clause,
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  • And they used an obscure document of the letter
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  • That jefferson wrote to the danbury baptist convention,
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  • Where he said, an invisible wall of separation,
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  • Which in context, when you read the letter, is a complete
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  • Opposite of what the ruling was by the supreme court.
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  • And now it became not freedom of religion, but freedom
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  • From religion, which ushered in secular progressivism in islam.
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  • And this is what charlie was taking on
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  • Just before god brought him home.
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  • Islam is a political structure disguised as a religion,
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  • And secular progressivism is a religion
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  • Disguised as a political movement.
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  • It's called the red green revolution.
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  • They come in and they destroy the morality
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  • Of a christian nation through secular progressivism.
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  • And then islam comes in and consumes it.
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  • And when you see gays for for palestine,
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  • They are useful idiots.
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  • That's what we're up against.
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  • And unless we understand that this nation of the people,
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  • By the people and for the people,
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  • The freedom of religion, not from it's not a theocracy,
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  • But as christians we are to contend.
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  • And sharia law is antithetical to our declaration
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  • Of independence because it demands adherence.
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  • We allow the freedom of religion they demand, or else you die.
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  • And this is what we're fighting for.
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  • Unless we wake up and the in the congregations are educated.
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  • Every nation like like london stand now
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  • And france is now 9% muslim.
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  • It's about to roll.
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  • This this is an invasion like we've never seen.
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  • And unless we wake up,
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  • What do you see in your children's future?
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  • Just look at your kids and say, you know what?
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  • I don't do politics.
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  • I don't care about your generation.
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  • Just look at em and hand them nothing.
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  • Even though you received everything.
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  • You can't do that.
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  • And for all of you who?
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  • Churchill said
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  • The man was cursed
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  • To have been born in uninteresting times.
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  • That's not true for us.
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  • We've been appointed for such a time
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  • And says everything in our dna.
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  • God has assigned each of us to stand in this moment
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  • And hold back the gates of hell,
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  • And push him back, in jesus name.
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  • Amen.
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  • John,
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  • You've gone and talked to school boards in 22 states.
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  • You're so judgy and.
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  • And i'm pretty sure you're
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  • A christian nationalist, too.
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  • And to be honest, i'm embarrassed.
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  • No, no, i mean this.
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  • I'm embarrassed
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  • That the godly men in those communities
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  • Haven't been dominating on
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  • School boards long before john got there.
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  • They should know
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  • You're going to stand up for your children.
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  • What has happened to us?
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  • But tell us what you've learned. what you.
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  • What's your takeaway?
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  • Well,
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  • As it relates to going to the school board meetings
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  • And addressing the issues, the hot button issues
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  • That are being pushed upon our children that many parents
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  • Unearthed during the pandemic.
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  • You know, learning about jody having to mommies
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  • And sarah having two mommies, and tom having two daddies
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  • And all of the woke crt stuff.
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  • Racial consciousness stuff.
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  • There are three takeaways that i have as i've traveled
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  • The country.
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  • Number one,
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  • Perverts are perverting
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  • The hearts and the minds of our children.
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  • We have to call these individuals what they are.
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  • It is perverted
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  • To take pornographic content
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  • And set it at the fingertips of children.
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  • It's.
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  • In addition, it's not only perverted,
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  • Some people call it indoctrination.
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  • Some people call it grooming.
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  • But i call it mental rape
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  • Because it assaults the soul.
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  • It stains the brain and it robs children of their innocence.
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  • They are forcibly
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  • Shoving.
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  • Sex down their throat,
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  • Making them the customers for planned parenthood.
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  • And keep in mind, planned parenthood provides
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  • The majority of sex ed curriculum
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  • And the public school system in america.
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  • And so they are working hand and fist perverts are perverted
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  • In the hearts and minds of our children.
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  • Number two, parents are unaware.
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  • They shouldn't be unaware.
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  • Train up a child in the way he should go.
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  • And when he's old, he will not depart.
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  • And so parents should be allowed in
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  • On what their child is being taught.
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  • You can't send your child off to babylon.
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  • Yeah, and i'd expect them to come back as a babylonian.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Rejecting your biblical worldview.
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  • You can't do it.
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  • And then lastly, pastors
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  • Have failed to do their job.
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  • Pastors.
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  • Come on, pastors
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  • See weak pulpits
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  • Create weak christians.
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  • How is it that, you know, i.
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  • I go into different cities and states and
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  • I try to work with pastors
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  • And not all pastors, but some
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  • Too many.
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  • You're right, pastor.
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  • And when they get to the school board meeting,
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  • Many of them won't even read
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  • The book verbatim
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  • Because they're too squeamish to read
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  • What a four year old might have to read
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  • In a library.
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  • Pastors.
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  • And so i assemble them and tell them to join me.
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  • And hey, i give you the books, what you should read,
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  • And you get there
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  • And they summarize, or they won't even open the book
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  • And read the book to shove it down their throats.
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  • See, the
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  • Only way for us to fight gender theory and queer theory
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  • Is that we have to expose how hideous it is
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  • We people have to see it.
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  • A great deal of my success has been
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  • Just opening the book and reading what the book says.
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  • You know, i have a book right here.
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  • You know what?
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  • I travel the country with,
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  • With books.
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  • I tell your story.
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  • You go through tsa and you have some of these books
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  • In your in your, in your bag, and they check your bag.
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  • I'm like, all right.
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  • I'm an alpha male.
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  • I'm straight.
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  • I'm going to a school board meeting.
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  • Right.
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  • I try to tell them quickly, because they see all of the many
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  • Books that i have best gear.
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  • But this book is
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  • Entitled worm loves worm,
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  • Right?
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  • And it says.
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  • But which one of you is the bride?
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  • Ask the bees.
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  • How can we be?
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  • How can we be brides, bees if we don't know who
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  • The bride is?
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  • And then it says, i can be the bride, says worm.
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  • I can two, says worm.
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  • And so what this is pushing upon children is same sex marriage.
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  • This is made available for kids
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  • Ages four and up.
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  • So both worms can be the bride.
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  • Then it says, but one of you has got to be the groom.
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  • Or how can i be best?
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  • Beetle asks beetle.
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  • I can be the groom, says worm.
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  • I can two says worm.
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  • We can be both.
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  • Amazing, says spider.
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  • Really?
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  • Asks beetle.
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  • And the bees wait, says cricket.
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  • That isn't how it's always been done.
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  • Now keep in mind, in this book, the cricket is the preacher.
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  • Cricket.
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  • The cricket preacher.
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  • All right.
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  • Then it says.
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  • Then we'll just change how it's done, says worm.
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  • Yes, says worm.
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  • Story time with pastor john.
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  • Right.
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  • And so they were married.
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  • Because worm loves worm.
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  • How can we allow barack obama
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  • To be more, more vocal in what
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  • He deemed marriage to be
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  • Than what the bible has explicitly called it
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  • To be?
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  • To be?
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  • Barack hussein obama will go down in history
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  • As one of the most divisive presidents
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  • Ever.
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  • He divided us on the issues of race,
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  • Divided us on the issues of sex, decorated the white house
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  • And rainbow colors.
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  • They used to be a time where people said, hey,
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  • What i do in my bedroom is my business,
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  • And that's none of your business. and that's true.
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  • What you do in your bedroom is your business.
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  • Now, i don't advise you to do certain things.
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  • We don't talk about it enough. but
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  • Homosexual sex takes nearly 20 to 25 years
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  • Off of a male's life span.
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  • So the most loving thing that we can do
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  • Is tell a child about god's design for sex.
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  • The truth of it.
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  • But we went from doing what you want to do in your bedroom,
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  • And that's your business, to then having
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  • The white house decorated in rainbow colors and
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  • Having this content in the public school system
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  • They're ordered, is have to go to school
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  • And use locker rooms and bathrooms
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  • Where guys who might wake up in the morning and say,
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  • Do they want to be a man or woman
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  • Changing their sex
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  • As a social construct?
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  • That's where we are.
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  • And you'll be hard pressed to find pastors like these.
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  • Give these men a big hand clap.
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  • Give them a big hand for that.
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  • Really? like, seriously?
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  • Salute and celebrate
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  • Women leadership.
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  • Proud
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  • Masculinity.
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  • Men who are not afraid
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  • To be protectors.
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  • Protectors.
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  • Can i get someone to shout protectors.
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  • Protectors.
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  • Protect tours.
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  • That's their own.
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  • That's the role of the man,
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  • That's right.
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  • For the protectors.
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  • For the pastors out there
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  • Who have a misunderstanding of this idea
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  • Of separation of church and state and,
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  • And you think you can't do this because there's a separation
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  • Of church and state.
  • 00:13:18.427 --> 00:13:19.395
  • First of all, you don't know your history.
  • 00:13:19.395 --> 00:13:21.197
  • But but let me just reverse it.
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  • Let's just look at this way.
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  • The states now invaded the church.
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  • What are you going to do, pastor?
  • 00:13:27.536 --> 00:13:29.238
  • It's redefine marriage. what are you going to do, pastor?
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  • It's redefine sexuality.
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  • What are you going to do, pastor?
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  • They're taking over your kids.
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  • What are you going to do, pastor? come on, come on.
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  • I mean, i'll take your your position.
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  • And when it says pray for kings and those in authority
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  • With peaceful lives and all godliness and reverence get.
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  • Can i ask you the names of your school board members
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  • And your council members that you pray for by name?
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  • According to that pastoral epistle
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  • And the issues you're dealing with that
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  • Allow your community to live quiet and peaceable
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  • Lives in all godliness and reverence.
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  • You can hear a pin drop when you ask that, well,
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  • That's all i have to say.
  • 00:14:04.073 --> 00:14:09.378
  • Jerry, you said something
  • 00:14:09.946 --> 00:14:11.847
  • That i think is at the heart of this conversation.
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  • You said there's two restraints to evil.
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  • The holy spirit and the church.
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  • Right? come on.
  • 00:14:18.387 --> 00:14:19.622
  • And it's it's easy to tag some of these
  • 00:14:19.622 --> 00:14:22.892
  • Big cultural issues that we get applause for.
  • 00:14:22.892 --> 00:14:26.629
  • But as a pastor, to me, it's much thinner ice.
  • 00:14:27.530 --> 00:14:31.200
  • This really starts at our kitchen tables right?
  • 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:34.737
  • And to invite the spirit of god into our homes
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  • And our families, one of my annoyances is we give
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  • Children's coaches.
  • 00:14:41.077 --> 00:14:44.180
  • For five years old and seven years old
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  • And ten years old, they
  • 00:14:47.416 --> 00:14:48.718
  • They watch too many professional sports,
  • 00:14:48.718 --> 00:14:51.754
  • And they're going to turn six year olds into something.
  • 00:14:51.754 --> 00:14:54.824
  • We give them more authority in our home
  • 00:14:55.691 --> 00:14:57.526
  • Than the youth ministers in our churches.
  • 00:14:57.526 --> 00:15:01.964
  • So you are.
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  • You have some experience
  • 00:15:05.868 --> 00:15:07.703
  • In pastoring.
  • 00:15:07.703 --> 00:15:10.406
  • How what does it look like in practical terms
  • 00:15:10.406 --> 00:15:12.808
  • For the church and our families
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  • To cooperate with the spirit of god,
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  • To see evil restrained?
  • 00:15:18.881 --> 00:15:20.082
  • I'm tired of losing 3000 children a day.
  • 00:15:20.082 --> 00:15:24.153
  • I'm tired of universities becoming indoctrination centers
  • 00:15:24.153 --> 00:15:27.123
  • And i'm tired of worms
  • 00:15:27.123 --> 00:15:29.425
  • Being in the libraries of our small children.
  • 00:15:29.425 --> 00:15:33.029
  • So you introduced that idea.
  • 00:15:33.029 --> 00:15:35.498
  • I thought so eloquently talk about that.
  • 00:15:35.498 --> 00:15:37.566
  • Just a moment.
  • 00:15:37.566 --> 00:15:39.635
  • So, you know that old saying, the family,
  • 00:15:39.635 --> 00:15:42.038
  • The priest together stays together?
  • 00:15:42.038 --> 00:15:44.073
  • I think it's important that around the kitchen table,
  • 00:15:44.073 --> 00:15:47.009
  • We get back to influencing our children with the gospel
  • 00:15:47.009 --> 00:15:52.348
  • At home, instead of expecting everybody else to do it.
  • 00:15:52.348 --> 00:15:55.985
  • It starts with
  • 00:15:55.985 --> 00:15:57.653
  • If there's a dad in the home, it starts with dad
  • 00:15:57.653 --> 00:15:59.989
  • As the spiritual leader.
  • 00:15:59.989 --> 00:16:02.291
  • But to my wife's credit, you know, speaking as a pastor.
  • 00:16:02.291 --> 00:16:06.228
  • So i'm just going to let you in on a little bit of information.
  • 00:16:06.228 --> 00:16:08.697
  • Sometimes when i come home after having, you know,
  • 00:16:08.697 --> 00:16:11.801
  • Ministered to a bunch of people, like,
  • 00:16:11.801 --> 00:16:14.036
  • I'm kind of done, you know, what i'm saying to you? what?
  • 00:16:14.036 --> 00:16:16.272
  • You may not know what i'm saying.
  • 00:16:16.272 --> 00:16:17.440
  • You these, you know what i'm saying to you guys. okay.
  • 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.542
  • And my wife, bless her heart, when our kids are growing up,
  • 00:16:20.743 --> 00:16:23.479
  • My son, my adult son austin is here is on staff with me now.
  • 00:16:23.479 --> 00:16:26.649
  • And we have three kids.
  • 00:16:26.649 --> 00:16:28.050
  • And she would take the initiative at dinner time
  • 00:16:28.050 --> 00:16:31.487
  • To open up the bible.
  • 00:16:31.487 --> 00:16:32.788
  • And we are going to memorize a verse at dinner time.
  • 00:16:32.788 --> 00:16:36.959
  • And you know, as your kids are at a certain age,
  • 00:16:36.959 --> 00:16:39.795
  • You can only do so much.
  • 00:16:39.795 --> 00:16:41.497
  • They their attention span is limited.
  • 00:16:41.497 --> 00:16:44.033
  • But my point is, do all you can to live out
  • 00:16:44.033 --> 00:16:47.603
  • Your faith in the home so that it's palpable.
  • 00:16:47.603 --> 00:16:50.372
  • So that so that by by the influence of your lives,
  • 00:16:50.372 --> 00:16:54.743
  • That you are consistently at home
  • 00:16:54.743 --> 00:16:56.745
  • The way you are in public, and vice versa,
  • 00:16:56.745 --> 00:16:59.748
  • That your children will be influenced for the glory of god,
  • 00:16:59.748 --> 00:17:02.952
  • For that next generation
  • 00:17:02.952 --> 00:17:04.653
  • We have, we have to be living out our faith at home.
  • 00:17:04.653 --> 00:17:08.591
  • That's where it starts.
  • 00:17:08.591 --> 00:17:10.326
  • And if our kids are not seeing it,
  • 00:17:10.326 --> 00:17:13.229
  • Then they're going to learn whatever the greatest influence
  • 00:17:13.229 --> 00:17:16.799
  • Is in their lives.
  • 00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:17.967
  • They're going to learn from whatever
  • 00:17:17.967 --> 00:17:19.201
  • That greatest influences, whether it's their phones,
  • 00:17:19.201 --> 00:17:22.071
  • Whether it's some coach, some teachers, their peers.
  • 00:17:22.071 --> 00:17:26.342
  • Like we have to be presenting the greatest influence
  • 00:17:26.342 --> 00:17:29.845
  • To have the greatest impact on our families.
  • 00:17:29.845 --> 00:17:32.615
  • If we expect to see this next
  • 00:17:32.615 --> 00:17:34.250
  • Generation really living out their faith.
  • 00:17:34.250 --> 00:17:36.118
  • So it does begin in the home.
  • 00:17:36.118 --> 00:17:47.012
  • So it does begin in the home.
  • 00:17:47.012 --> 00:17:51.607
  • So, a lot of you know, my son mike is chief of staff
  • 00:17:52.642 --> 00:17:55.945
  • For charlie and now serving erica, he's 23.
  • 00:17:55.945 --> 00:17:59.182
  • And when covid came to california
  • 00:17:59.882 --> 00:18:02.251
  • And governor newsline,
  • 00:18:02.251 --> 00:18:03.319
  • He said that the church was nonessential.
  • 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:07.156
  • He said strip clubs were essential cannabis
  • 00:18:07.156 --> 00:18:09.258
  • Distributors, liquor stores, abortion clinics were essential.
  • 00:18:09.258 --> 00:18:11.294
  • But the church, the bride of christ, was nonessential.
  • 00:18:11.294 --> 00:18:13.262
  • And charlie made the worst prediction
  • 00:18:13.262 --> 00:18:14.730
  • In radio history
  • 00:18:14.730 --> 00:18:16.098
  • When he said, the church in california
  • 00:18:16.098 --> 00:18:17.500
  • Is not going to take that laying down.
  • 00:18:17.500 --> 00:18:18.834
  • And it folded again like a cheap suit.
  • 00:18:18.834 --> 00:18:21.170
  • Jack hibbs stood myself,
  • 00:18:21.170 --> 00:18:22.805
  • Tim thompson, a number of other guys.
  • 00:18:22.805 --> 00:18:24.574
  • But the lion's share of the churches folded.
  • 00:18:24.574 --> 00:18:27.109
  • John macarthur stood. lion.
  • 00:18:27.109 --> 00:18:29.278
  • Yeah, he was patton.
  • 00:18:29.278 --> 00:18:35.685
  • And and
  • 00:18:35.918 --> 00:18:37.520
  • When when i was preparing to violate the restraining order,
  • 00:18:37.520 --> 00:18:41.224
  • By the government because we had kept the church over open,
  • 00:18:41.224 --> 00:18:44.627
  • I called my attorney and i said, you know,
  • 00:18:44.627 --> 00:18:47.597
  • I know you can't counsel me to violate the law
  • 00:18:47.597 --> 00:18:49.665
  • Or lose his license, but i said, can you tell me what i lose
  • 00:18:49.665 --> 00:18:52.902
  • If i keep the doors open?
  • 00:18:52.902 --> 00:18:54.170
  • And, this, you know, disobeyed the restraining order,
  • 00:18:54.170 --> 00:18:57.540
  • And it was a legal pad and a half a page
  • 00:18:57.540 --> 00:19:00.243
  • And a half of consequences.
  • 00:19:00.243 --> 00:19:01.544
  • I'd lose a church, lose my house.
  • 00:19:01.544 --> 00:19:03.512
  • My son will lose his nctc scholarship.
  • 00:19:03.512 --> 00:19:05.281
  • I mean, it was severe consequences.
  • 00:19:05.281 --> 00:19:07.950
  • And and i said, i'll call you back.
  • 00:19:07.950 --> 00:19:10.052
  • And i called my wife, and i said, honey,
  • 00:19:10.052 --> 00:19:11.554
  • I am planning on violating a restraining order tomorrow,
  • 00:19:11.554 --> 00:19:14.357
  • But i don't want to do it without you.
  • 00:19:14.357 --> 00:19:15.658
  • And i read everything on that list.
  • 00:19:15.658 --> 00:19:17.793
  • And my kids were present at the time.
  • 00:19:17.793 --> 00:19:19.862
  • Mikey, too.
  • 00:19:19.862 --> 00:19:20.830
  • And my wife, i'll never forget what she said.
  • 00:19:20.830 --> 00:19:22.231
  • And invoking richard worm brand, he said, you know,
  • 00:19:22.231 --> 00:19:26.369
  • His wife said to him, i'd rather be a widow
  • 00:19:26.369 --> 00:19:28.170
  • Than be married to a coward.
  • 00:19:28.170 --> 00:19:29.972
  • And i looked at him like, you're hot.
  • 00:19:29.972 --> 00:19:32.742
  • You know, i just you're amazing.
  • 00:19:32.742 --> 00:19:36.712
  • And i had i had
  • 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:38.948
  • Told stories and i did that children's book out there.
  • 00:19:38.948 --> 00:19:41.083
  • It was a story i would tell my kids raised and teaching them.
  • 00:19:41.083 --> 00:19:43.085
  • What you learn today and, and and then i,
  • 00:19:43.085 --> 00:19:47.690
  • I had to meet with the staff and i told them,
  • 00:19:47.690 --> 00:19:50.960
  • But before that, i met with my kids.
  • 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:52.428
  • I said, kids, you know, this is what i'm planning on doing.
  • 00:19:52.428 --> 00:19:54.397
  • It's going to affect you.
  • 00:19:54.397 --> 00:19:55.831
  • And they said, dad, we couldn't be more,
  • 00:19:55.831 --> 00:19:58.668
  • More proud of you, mikey, too, you know?
  • 00:19:58.668 --> 00:20:02.038
  • And, i sat down with the elders.
  • 00:20:02.038 --> 00:20:04.340
  • We have 15 elders,
  • 00:20:04.340 --> 00:20:05.908
  • And i knew it needed to be unanimous decision.
  • 00:20:05.908 --> 00:20:07.743
  • And i said, fellas, i'm
  • 00:20:07.743 --> 00:20:08.878
  • Planning on violating restraining order tomorrow.
  • 00:20:08.878 --> 00:20:12.081
  • It needs to be unanimous.
  • 00:20:12.081 --> 00:20:13.115
  • And you had the same fiduciary responsibility.
  • 00:20:13.115 --> 00:20:15.117
  • You could lose everything i'm going to lose.
  • 00:20:15.117 --> 00:20:17.019
  • And in case you don't vote unanimously in front of you
  • 00:20:17.019 --> 00:20:20.323
  • Is my letter of resignation.
  • 00:20:20.323 --> 00:20:21.324
  • Because i can't live with myself.
  • 00:20:21.324 --> 00:20:22.892
  • And 14 of the 15 voted yes, the
  • 00:20:22.892 --> 00:20:25.761
  • The 15th guy abstained because he was an attorney
  • 00:20:25.761 --> 00:20:27.730
  • And we needed him and he couldn't vote to break the law.
  • 00:20:27.730 --> 00:20:33.469
  • And and i watched
  • 00:20:33.903 --> 00:20:36.405
  • As i stood and i told mikey and my kids, i said,
  • 00:20:36.405 --> 00:20:39.875
  • Dad, what if we lose?
  • 00:20:40.376 --> 00:20:42.278
  • And i looked at him and i said, you understand?
  • 00:20:42.278 --> 00:20:45.448
  • Ours is the obedience.
  • 00:20:45.915 --> 00:20:47.416
  • God's is the outcome.
  • 00:20:47.416 --> 00:20:55.013
  • God's is the outcome.
  • 00:20:55.013 --> 00:20:58.400
  • Children born in times of adversity
  • 00:20:59.167 --> 00:21:00.635
  • Are the leaders in the free world to come.
  • 00:21:00.635 --> 00:21:03.772
  • Set an example for him.
  • 00:21:04.272 --> 00:21:06.608
  • You know, pastors think that peace
  • 00:21:06.608 --> 00:21:08.143
  • Is the absence of conflict.
  • 00:21:08.143 --> 00:21:10.445
  • Then they're peacemakers by nature of a peace
  • 00:21:10.445 --> 00:21:12.047
  • Is in the absence of conflict.
  • 00:21:12.047 --> 00:21:13.882
  • Peace is the presence of christ in the midst of the conflict.
  • 00:21:13.882 --> 00:21:17.018
  • He said, i come to bring peace,
  • 00:21:17.018 --> 00:21:18.053
  • But a sword, the sword of truth, make a stand
  • 00:21:18.053 --> 00:21:21.123
  • And don't cowered because you're afraid
  • 00:21:21.990 --> 00:21:24.326
  • Of your buildings, budgets, or baptisms.
  • 00:21:24.326 --> 00:21:27.529
  • Count. you counted.
  • 00:21:27.529 --> 00:21:29.297
  • You lose everything, but count it all joy.
  • 00:21:29.297 --> 00:21:32.000
  • This is what we're called to.
  • 00:21:32.000 --> 00:21:34.035
  • This is a movie set.
  • 00:21:34.035 --> 00:21:35.237
  • It's going away.
  • 00:21:35.237 --> 00:21:37.139
  • Only what's done for christ will last, will stand before him.
  • 00:21:37.139 --> 00:21:40.142
  • And whatever it is you're holding on to, let it go.
  • 00:21:40.142 --> 00:21:43.311
  • Fight.
  • 00:21:43.512 --> 00:21:44.846
  • You have a generation looking at you,
  • 00:21:44.846 --> 00:21:46.681
  • Wanting you to set an example.
  • 00:21:46.681 --> 00:21:48.750
  • This isn't a love boat.
  • 00:21:48.750 --> 00:21:50.752
  • And i'm not captain stubing.
  • 00:21:50.752 --> 00:21:53.422
  • This is a battleship.
  • 00:21:53.922 --> 00:21:53.922