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Allen Jackson: Dangerous Insider | Allen Jackson Now

January 15, 2026 | 20:56

Allen Jackson: Dangerous Insider | Allen Jackson Now
Germania Rodriguez Poleo joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Dangerous Insider | Allen Jackson Now | January 15, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • The venezuelan dictator nicolas maduro
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  • Remains in a new york prison, along with his wife, for freedom
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  • Loving people around the world.
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  • There's reason to celebrate.
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  • But venezuela is a long way
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  • From becoming the country it used to be.
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  • People are fleeing to colombia and mexico.
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  • Others are laying low and keeping quiet
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  • Until a real democracy takes hold.
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  • You don't want to be caught saying anything negative
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  • About what it was like under maduro,
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  • Or even about his replacement right now.
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  • There is hope, but the path to real freedom is only just begun.
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  • Do you hear what's going on from someone
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  • As close to the inside as possible?
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  • We're joined tonight by an independent
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  • Venezuelan american journalist, herminia rodriguez, below.
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  • Welcome to our show.
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  • Thank you so much for having me.
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  • You are a third generation journalist
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  • Whose grandfather owned a newspaper in the old venezuela.
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  • And you came to the united states
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  • When you fled the country with your mother.
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  • Can we start by you telling us about your early life
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  • In venezuela, and how and why you came to the united states?
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  • Yeah.
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  • You know, that story is so important.
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  • The new york times recently was reporting
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  • That venezuela has not
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  • Been under tyranny for 25 years, and that we even as well
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  • As are lying about that
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  • We have been under this tyranny for 25 years.
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  • My personal story shows that i was forced to flee
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  • When i was 11 years old, because my mom was a journalist,
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  • Reporting
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  • Alerting the world on the country
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  • That chavez was trying to establish.
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  • Cuban led dictatorship.
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  • And they accused her of murdering
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  • The attorney general with a car bomb.
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  • So she had to go into
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  • Hiding for a month and then flee on a boat through curacao.
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  • And again,
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  • This was when most of the world was still saying
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  • That chavez was proving that socialism could work.
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  • Well, venezuela is far from free.
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  • Even with maduro gone.
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  • And you've been very vocal about thanking president trump,
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  • But there's nothing anyone who's still in
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  • Venezuela can say unless it's just a whisper.
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  • You still have family there?
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  • What are you hearing about how most people
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  • Are feeling these days in venezuela?
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  • Your audience needs to know that the huge majority
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  • Of venezuelans
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  • Supported maduros arrest and want the chavez regime out.
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  • We actually just
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  • Had a new independent polling, which is, a-plus.
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  • That has happened after maduro's arrest,
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  • Because we have no way of polling inside venezuela,
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  • A brutal dictatorship before to know
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  • What the people really thought.
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  • Well, now we have polling.
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  • Donald trump
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  • Is the most popular politician in venezuela right now.
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  • The polling shows that people overwhelmingly support
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  • Maduros arrest and have hope.
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  • They show that we are concerned.
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  • We understand we're still not free.
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  • There is a lot to be done.
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  • They also show that maria corina machado
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  • Would completely destroy rodriguez if a free election
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  • Was being held tomorrow.
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  • However, as you said, venezuelans are scared.
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  • The regime has come out with their thugs saying that
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  • Anyone who is heard supporting
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  • The united states will be disappeared.
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  • This is what they have always done.
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  • But i can tell you, i have hundreds of messages
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  • Every day from venezuelans inside asking those of us
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  • Who are outside to tell the world
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  • They wanted maduro gone, and now they want delsey gone,
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  • And well, i dare say that a lot of americans had no idea
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  • What life in venezuela was like under maduro.
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  • An influential senator has spoken about what
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  • The united states
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  • Would eventually like to see for the country and its people.
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  • Listen to how tom cotton put it.
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  • We want them to stop the drug and the weapons trafficking.
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  • We want them take the refugees back.
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  • We want them kicking out the iranians, the cubans,
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  • The islamic radicals, like hezbollah,
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  • And just return to being
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  • A normal nation that will help build stability,
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  • Order and prosperity,
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  • Not just in venezuela, but in our backyard.
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  • You know, getting to that point will not include boots
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  • On the ground.
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  • According to the senate majority leader, john thune,
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  • Who managed to kill
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  • The democrats attempt at a war powers resolution yesterday.
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  • Are you optimistic that with the white house support
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  • And the big oil companies, venezuela
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  • Can start growing its way to a better place?
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  • We venezuelans are cautiously optimistic.
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  • Again, we have been in this battle for over 20 years.
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  • We know the brutality and the nature of this regime
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  • That was trained by cuba,
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  • Who was trained by kgb intelligence to survive.
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  • They know what they're doing.
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  • So we have more hope than ever
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  • That the united states is now invested in helping venezuela.
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  • But here's what's important for everyone,
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  • Including the president, to understand.
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  • No one is going to enjoy venezuela's riches, from oil
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  • To tourism to all the other amazing things we have to offer
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  • While we remain under a socialist dictatorship.
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  • If the united states
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  • Wants to enjoy that, as well as full oil potential,
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  • Which we would love to work with the united states as we did
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  • When we were the richest country in the region.
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  • Donald trump and the white house are going
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  • To have to finish the job
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  • And remove the socialist criminal dictatorship
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  • That still stands in venezuela today.
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  • And that's what the oil executives told
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  • The president themselves.
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  • Well, part of going forward was a request
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  • By president trump to have political prisoners released.
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  • One of maduro's key players, a man named charles
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  • Eduardo cabello, was in charge of doing that.
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  • But you said that for democracy
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  • To return to venezuela,
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  • That man will have to be removed, perhaps even arrested.
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  • What's his background?
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  • Again, this is a system.
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  • It's not just him.
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  • There are several people
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  • Here, including delsey, rodriguez and your cabello,
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  • Who are an obstacle to democracy.
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  • But your style.
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  • Cabello particularly controls the external official armed
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  • Groups in venezuela. they're called collectibles.
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  • Diosdado is the most openly violent.
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  • His catchphrase is doubt is treason.
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  • So the us dollar right now is likely the biggest obstacle
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  • That delsey rodriguez has trying to appear
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  • Like she's following the white house's instructions.
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  • It appears that's what they'll see
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  • Is telling donald trump what's telling the country
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  • That they are anti-u.s.
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  • And anti-imperialist,
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  • And they are still in a fight to survive against trump.
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  • What sort of effect do you
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  • Think the maduro capture will have on venezuela's
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  • Neighbors, including colombia and mexico?
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  • They're also heavily tied into the drug trade.
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  • None.
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  • If the white house does not finish the job.
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  • Again, the system remains in place.
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  • Venezuela is the worst crisis
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  • In the recent history of our hemisphere.
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  • The largest displacement of peoples
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  • In the history of our side of the world.
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  • If they'll see rodriguez, just walk away.
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  • There's his brother, george rodriguez
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  • And several other individuals remain in venezuela.
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  • Nothing will change.
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  • We need to take a short break.
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  • Can you stay with us for another segment?
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  • Of course.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We'll be right back.
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  • We're back now with the venezuelan
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  • American journalist harmonia rodriguez, below.
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  • A lot of people who escaped from venezuela
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  • The past several years came here illegally.
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  • When our border was so wide open.
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  • Do you have any idea
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  • What percentage of them were criminals
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  • Released by maduro from jail, versus
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  • Just the number who wanted to escape his strong arm regime?
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  • Listen, what happened in the united states recently
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  • With, crimes by venezuelans is something that south america,
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  • Latin america has been seeing for over a decade now.
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  • And it's not because we're bad people.
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  • It's because when nearly 9 million people
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  • Leave a country, the criminals are leaving, too.
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  • The criminals don't like socialism either.
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  • So the people that arrived in
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  • The united states were the most desperate.
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  • They're the ones who walked through the darién gap.
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  • It through the united states.
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  • So this is what i always tell the people.
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  • When you were asking me about the region,
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  • Eliminating the toughest,
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  • The regime would eliminate those problems
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  • Not only from the united states,
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  • But from the region that has been suffering them.
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  • Train derailed what has been committing
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  • Transnational violence for years
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  • Before they reached the united states.
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  • They killed, in as well in dissident in chile.
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  • The che vista regime is that transnational crime
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  • Organization.
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  • And that's why you started seeing,
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  • Venezuelan criminals, in your cities.
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  • It's because that's what happens
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  • When 10 million people leave a country.
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  • Well, the venezuelan opposition leader, maria corina
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  • Machado, met with president trump today.
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  • She's the nobel peace prize winner
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  • Who offered to share the prize with him.
  • 00:08:54.193 --> 00:08:56.695
  • It was congresswoman
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  • Maria salazar who pointed out how popular she is.
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  • Listen to her comment.
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  • Last year, we, the venezuelans under maria
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  • Corina machado on the opposition forces, they held elections,
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  • Presidential elections, and those elections reflected.
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  • And they showed
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  • That 80% of the venezuelans, including the military,
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  • Voted against the majority.
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  • But it was maduro's vice president
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  • Who was elevated to the job when maduro was captured.
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  • Despite being an ally of the united socialist party.
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  • What can you tell us about her and how the people feel
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  • About her being in charge?
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  • This is what people need to understand about maria corina.
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  • She is the perfect example of the fight
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  • We have been in for over 20 years.
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  • Maria told chavez to his face as he was expropriating,
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  • Private property 20 years ago that he was a thief to his face.
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  • Maria corina was,
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  • Beaten up in congress by chavez to thugs for refusing
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  • To kneel down to them.
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  • Maria corina, then, did something that will now
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  • Be a battle, part of the battle for democracy worldwide.
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  • Not only did she manage to win, well,
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  • She was banned from running for office
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  • Because that's what a dictatorship does.
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  • As soon as they realize how popular she was,
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  • They didn't let her run. then she figured it out.
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  • She found someone to run in her place.
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  • Then somehow, she managed to win
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  • An election in a brutal dictatorship
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  • Where elections are not free or fair.
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  • Then she managed to prove to the world
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  • That we won that election and maduro stole it.
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  • So maria corina, to us, is the perfect example
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  • Of the venezuelan brave women who have been fighting
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  • With no help, no weapons for over 20 years.
  • 00:10:35.961 --> 00:10:39.465
  • And today we are
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  • Thrilled that she is the person representing us
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  • In the white house in a meeting with donald trump.
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  • Let's move to venezuela's oil industry and what's left of it.
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  • The big u.s.
  • 00:10:52.311 --> 00:10:53.011
  • Oil companies used to be there,
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  • But the government chased them out
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  • And took over their drilling equipment.
  • 00:10:55.614 --> 00:10:57.483
  • Except in the case of chevron,
  • 00:10:57.483 --> 00:10:58.951
  • Which had to give
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  • The maduro government part of its company in profits.
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  • Do you think that the new oil drilling will eventually
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  • Bring a level of prosperity
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  • To the people, rather than just the government?
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  • It's too soon for any of that.
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  • Here's where we're at.
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  • We, even as long as are happy
  • 00:11:14.466 --> 00:11:15.934
  • That we have something to offer the us
  • 00:11:15.934 --> 00:11:18.036
  • And the trump administration for their interest.
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  • But no one is going to enjoy.
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  • The rest is destroyed.
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  • People need to understand that
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  • We may have the largest
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  • Oil reserves in the world, but we cannot pull any of it out
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  • Because chavez was destroyed by the usa.
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  • If the oil industry in the us does not feel
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  • That their private property will be respected,
  • 00:11:37.823 --> 00:11:39.825
  • They have already been robbed by the rodriguez regime.
  • 00:11:39.825 --> 00:11:43.662
  • So as the oil companies told donald trump,
  • 00:11:43.662 --> 00:11:46.665
  • They are not interested until a true transition happens.
  • 00:11:46.665 --> 00:11:50.435
  • Now we have the case of chevron.
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  • And that's an interesting case.
  • 00:11:52.771 --> 00:11:54.139
  • And we venezuelans don't love chevron
  • 00:11:54.139 --> 00:11:56.375
  • Because they have managed to somehow
  • 00:11:56.375 --> 00:11:58.010
  • Get special permission to continue
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  • Working with the venezuelan regime.
  • 00:12:00.345 --> 00:12:02.247
  • And now they are very, very well positioned.
  • 00:12:02.247 --> 00:12:05.150
  • However, if the oil industry in the
  • 00:12:05.150 --> 00:12:08.787
  • United states doesn't agree and is not convinced
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  • To go into venezuela
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  • To rebuild the oil industry, no one is enjoying
  • 00:12:13.125 --> 00:12:17.362
  • Then as well as full potential when it comes to oil.
  • 00:12:17.362 --> 00:12:20.065
  • That's the first step.
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  • You know, the world knows that venezuela is oil rich.
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  • But tell us about some of the other resources
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  • Venezuela has
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  • That makes you such a valuable part
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  • Of the national international community.
  • 00:12:29.274 --> 00:12:30.676
  • My goodness, i'm
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  • So i don't think i've been asked that yet
  • 00:12:32.344 --> 00:12:34.346
  • Because i think people are seen as less a barrel of oil.
  • 00:12:34.346 --> 00:12:37.950
  • Listen, venezuela was the fourth richest country
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  • In the world in terms of gdp in the 1950s.
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  • We well, i am biased, but we have the best beaches
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  • In the world.
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  • We have mountains, we have snows, we have the amazon.
  • 00:12:49.294 --> 00:12:52.764
  • We we have any type of natural resource
  • 00:12:52.764 --> 00:12:56.768
  • That you could possibly want.
  • 00:12:56.768 --> 00:12:58.136
  • That's why we were america's biggest ally in the region
  • 00:12:58.136 --> 00:13:01.907
  • For most of our history.
  • 00:13:01.907 --> 00:13:03.575
  • A free venezuela would not only stop
  • 00:13:03.575 --> 00:13:07.079
  • The largest refugee crisis that's affecting our countries.
  • 00:13:07.079 --> 00:13:10.249
  • It would bring us back to the democratic path
  • 00:13:10.249 --> 00:13:13.018
  • When we were the ones that took those who needed refuge.
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  • It's hard to think about that now
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  • In entering the right wing dictatorships
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  • Of the 20th century, in venezuela and in latin america.
  • 00:13:21.126 --> 00:13:24.229
  • Venezuela was the one democracy where people could come
  • 00:13:24.229 --> 00:13:28.367
  • And be free.
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  • And we, even as well as want to go back with that,
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  • We are prepared.
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  • We have some of the best oil workers in the world
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  • Who are prepared to go back and rebuild our society
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  • Once we can be assured that we're not going to be
  • 00:13:40.345 --> 00:13:43.649
  • Imprisoned, killed or disappeared for speaking up
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  • And believing in freedom and capitalism.
  • 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.023
  • Well, president trump
  • 00:13:51.023 --> 00:13:51.823
  • Has said
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  • He wants the venezuelan people
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  • To have access to american products.
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  • You think that would be received well by the people there?
  • 00:13:55.928 --> 00:13:58.597
  • Oh my god, it's so funny because so, so many people
  • 00:13:58.597 --> 00:14:01.934
  • Of the global left took that as bad news.
  • 00:14:01.934 --> 00:14:04.403
  • Meanwhile, then as long as we're making memes
  • 00:14:04.403 --> 00:14:07.005
  • About replacing chavez's tomb with a walmart, i.
  • 00:14:07.005 --> 00:14:12.277
  • It's us.
  • 00:14:12.544 --> 00:14:13.478
  • We want to do business with the us.
  • 00:14:13.478 --> 00:14:16.248
  • It's as simple as when the u.s.
  • 00:14:16.248 --> 00:14:18.583
  • Was our main ally.
  • 00:14:18.583 --> 00:14:19.651
  • We were rich exchanging the u.s.
  • 00:14:19.651 --> 00:14:22.120
  • For russia and china, and iran brought us
  • 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.222
  • To where we are today.
  • 00:14:24.222 --> 00:14:25.590
  • We want to go back to the previous arrangement, please.
  • 00:14:25.590 --> 00:14:29.161
  • Well, you had a message that you put out publicly
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  • For president trump
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  • Thanking him and asked him to asking him to.
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  • And i'm quoting you here.
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  • Finish the job.
  • 00:14:37.069 --> 00:14:38.570
  • In your opinion, what's included in finishing the job?
  • 00:14:38.570 --> 00:14:42.140
  • I want to send another message to president trump.
  • 00:14:42.140 --> 00:14:44.443
  • And again,
  • 00:14:44.443 --> 00:14:45.644
  • We are so grateful that anyone has cared about our tragedy
  • 00:14:45.644 --> 00:14:49.348
  • When we have been ignored for so long.
  • 00:14:49.348 --> 00:14:51.316
  • I want to point out that
  • 00:14:51.316 --> 00:14:53.352
  • Every time he says something positive
  • 00:14:53.352 --> 00:14:55.287
  • About rodriguez, our hearts break.
  • 00:14:55.287 --> 00:14:57.556
  • It's triggering to the tragedy we have lived under.
  • 00:14:57.556 --> 00:15:01.626
  • Now to finish the job.
  • 00:15:02.094 --> 00:15:03.795
  • Finishing the job means
  • 00:15:03.795 --> 00:15:04.997
  • They have now showed use of force,
  • 00:15:04.997 --> 00:15:06.865
  • And the travesties have shown
  • 00:15:06.865 --> 00:15:08.266
  • That they cannot fight back in any way.
  • 00:15:08.266 --> 00:15:11.136
  • So right now,
  • 00:15:11.136 --> 00:15:12.471
  • There are people who need to be removed and arrested.
  • 00:15:12.471 --> 00:15:15.674
  • Just one of them. there are many others.
  • 00:15:15.674 --> 00:15:17.876
  • The fake attorney general who's imprisoning children.
  • 00:15:17.876 --> 00:15:21.213
  • So it's it's carrot and stick.
  • 00:15:21.813 --> 00:15:24.049
  • But finally, someone has shown that
  • 00:15:24.049 --> 00:15:27.285
  • They too can use force against them.
  • 00:15:27.285 --> 00:15:30.389
  • We've been as long as never had this leverage.
  • 00:15:30.389 --> 00:15:32.624
  • They've been using their weapons against us for over 20 years.
  • 00:15:32.624 --> 00:15:36.128
  • And the international community asked us to negotiate.
  • 00:15:36.128 --> 00:15:38.930
  • How do you negotiate when you have nothing
  • 00:15:38.930 --> 00:15:41.133
  • And the state holds all the power?
  • 00:15:41.133 --> 00:15:43.001
  • That has to change.
  • 00:15:43.001 --> 00:15:44.202
  • And that's what we hope.
  • 00:15:44.202 --> 00:15:46.071
  • My my, i plead to president donald trump.
  • 00:15:46.071 --> 00:15:48.974
  • Do not believe that rodriguez.
  • 00:15:48.974 --> 00:15:51.043
  • Who will tell you pretty things about working with you.
  • 00:15:51.043 --> 00:15:54.312
  • These people are criminals.
  • 00:15:54.312 --> 00:15:55.814
  • They're ideologues.
  • 00:15:55.814 --> 00:15:57.315
  • No one will enjoy a rich venezuela with them there.
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  • Please listen to maria corina today, who has a plan of
  • 00:16:01.787 --> 00:16:06.291
  • How to bring investment back to venezuela and finish the job.
  • 00:16:06.291 --> 00:16:10.729
  • Well, harmony rodriguez palacio, thank you for spending time
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  • With us today and sharing what you know about inside venezuela.
  • 00:16:14.833 --> 00:16:19.071
  • Stay in touch so we can visit again as things progress.
  • 00:16:19.071 --> 00:16:23.542
  • See you in caracas.
  • 00:16:24.009 --> 00:16:26.311
  • In a moment.
  • 00:16:26.311 --> 00:16:27.279
  • There is real hope for venezuela and beyond.
  • 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.082
  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:16:30.082 --> 00:16:38.000
  • I'll be right back.
  • 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:42.095
  • You know, god
  • 00:16:42.462 --> 00:16:43.529
  • Is doing some truly remarkable things in the earth.
  • 00:16:43.529 --> 00:16:46.032
  • He's moving in a way that we don't have the time
  • 00:16:46.032 --> 00:16:47.900
  • To keep up with at all.
  • 00:16:47.900 --> 00:16:49.235
  • But it is truly extraordinary to watch.
  • 00:16:49.235 --> 00:16:51.737
  • All over the globe, there are expressions of freedom
  • 00:16:51.737 --> 00:16:54.273
  • That a few short months ago were just unthinkable
  • 00:16:54.273 --> 00:16:57.143
  • A few days ago.
  • 00:16:57.143 --> 00:16:58.411
  • A friend forwarded a video to me that really touched my heart.
  • 00:16:58.411 --> 00:17:01.180
  • It was a video of several hundred pastors
  • 00:17:01.180 --> 00:17:03.549
  • And faith leaders being released from prison
  • 00:17:03.549 --> 00:17:05.885
  • In venezuela, being reunited with their families
  • 00:17:05.885 --> 00:17:08.921
  • And their friends. it was a touching scene.
  • 00:17:08.921 --> 00:17:11.824
  • Now, depending on where you go to process global
  • 00:17:11.824 --> 00:17:13.793
  • Information, you've probably heard
  • 00:17:13.793 --> 00:17:15.228
  • 50 different opinions about all of this.
  • 00:17:15.228 --> 00:17:17.630
  • But there are
  • 00:17:17.630 --> 00:17:18.531
  • Some things that we know that are just
  • 00:17:18.531 --> 00:17:19.332
  • A matter of historical record.
  • 00:17:19.332 --> 00:17:21.701
  • One of them being where communism goes,
  • 00:17:21.701 --> 00:17:24.003
  • There is a violent oppression of christianity
  • 00:17:24.003 --> 00:17:26.506
  • And a persecution of faith leaders
  • 00:17:26.506 --> 00:17:28.875
  • Under hugo chavez and under maduro.
  • 00:17:28.875 --> 00:17:30.877
  • Churches, especially evangelical congregations, were subjected
  • 00:17:30.877 --> 00:17:34.480
  • To governmental monitoring and intimidation.
  • 00:17:34.480 --> 00:17:37.517
  • Christian leaders
  • 00:17:37.517 --> 00:17:38.684
  • Who criticized the regime or defended religious liberty.
  • 00:17:38.684 --> 00:17:41.287
  • They faced harassment,
  • 00:17:41.287 --> 00:17:42.455
  • Arbitrary detention, interrogation, and worse.
  • 00:17:42.455 --> 00:17:45.825
  • Socialism has been a disaster globally, with ineffective
  • 00:17:45.825 --> 00:17:49.095
  • Policies failing to create human flourishing.
  • 00:17:49.095 --> 00:17:52.532
  • So we shouldn't be surprised with what's
  • 00:17:52.532 --> 00:17:54.233
  • Been happening in venezuela in this season of change.
  • 00:17:54.233 --> 00:17:58.004
  • I think we should be celebrating the freedom
  • 00:17:58.004 --> 00:18:00.306
  • That's coming to our brothers and sisters in christ there.
  • 00:18:00.306 --> 00:18:03.409
  • I recognize that it's not by any means
  • 00:18:03.409 --> 00:18:05.278
  • An accomplished fact yet.
  • 00:18:05.278 --> 00:18:07.213
  • There's still a great deal of stress.
  • 00:18:07.213 --> 00:18:09.615
  • But when god moves in real time in response to our prayers,
  • 00:18:09.615 --> 00:18:14.287
  • I would submit to you we should at least say thank you.
  • 00:18:14.287 --> 00:18:17.890
  • Don't get caught up in the negative
  • 00:18:17.890 --> 00:18:19.225
  • Chatter of the mainstream media.
  • 00:18:19.225 --> 00:18:21.160
  • Freedom shouldn't be imagined in a political way.
  • 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:23.496
  • The responsibility to proclaim our gospel is our assignment,
  • 00:18:23.496 --> 00:18:27.300
  • And the freedom to do so is a gift from the lord.
  • 00:18:27.300 --> 00:18:30.169
  • We should celebrate that wherever we find it.
  • 00:18:30.169 --> 00:18:33.072
  • That is a reason for hope.
  • 00:18:33.072 --> 00:18:35.141
  • I'll be back in just a
  • 00:18:35.608 --> 00:18:36.542
  • Moment with your emails.
  • 00:18:36.542 --> 00:18:45.002
  • Moment with your emails.
  • 00:18:45.002 --> 00:18:48.923
  • Thank you for taking the time
  • 00:18:49.557 --> 00:18:50.825
  • To share your thoughts and your emails.
  • 00:18:50.825 --> 00:18:52.393
  • They are always the highlight of the program.
  • 00:18:52.393 --> 00:18:55.096
  • If you were on the youtube episode with doctor
  • 00:18:55.096 --> 00:18:57.932
  • Art, laffer commented, great conversation.
  • 00:18:57.932 --> 00:19:01.236
  • I love doctor laffer optimism and knowledge.
  • 00:19:01.236 --> 00:19:03.905
  • Thank you for the reminder
  • 00:19:03.905 --> 00:19:04.973
  • That fear and worrying is not fruitful.
  • 00:19:04.973 --> 00:19:08.142
  • Well,
  • 00:19:08.376 --> 00:19:09.611
  • I thought doctor laughter's hope for the future was contagious.
  • 00:19:09.611 --> 00:19:12.981
  • Reminded me that jesus said in the sermon
  • 00:19:12.981 --> 00:19:15.083
  • On the mount multiple times, don't worry.
  • 00:19:15.083 --> 00:19:16.884
  • Well, if he said we shouldn't worry, we don't have to.
  • 00:19:16.884 --> 00:19:19.721
  • I'd rather
  • 00:19:19.721 --> 00:19:20.888
  • Trust the lord than spend my time filled with anxiety.
  • 00:19:20.888 --> 00:19:23.925
  • A youtube viewer on the episode with cooper smith remarked,
  • 00:19:23.925 --> 00:19:27.562
  • Motor vehicles cannot be used in attempted murder to express
  • 00:19:27.562 --> 00:19:30.932
  • Political views.
  • 00:19:30.932 --> 00:19:32.367
  • Citizens forget laws from time to time.
  • 00:19:32.367 --> 00:19:34.869
  • When we apply for a deal, we sign documents
  • 00:19:34.869 --> 00:19:37.772
  • That are contractual.
  • 00:19:37.772 --> 00:19:39.340
  • We agree that this is a privilege
  • 00:19:39.340 --> 00:19:40.975
  • Because of the danger our vehicles pose.
  • 00:19:40.975 --> 00:19:43.678
  • Every minute
  • 00:19:43.678 --> 00:19:44.746
  • Someone in america is killed by a motor vehicle.
  • 00:19:44.746 --> 00:19:47.115
  • They're not toys to express public opinion
  • 00:19:47.115 --> 00:19:49.384
  • Or political views.
  • 00:19:49.384 --> 00:19:51.452
  • I couldn't agree more.
  • 00:19:51.452 --> 00:19:52.687
  • While we were watching in minnesota is absurd.
  • 00:19:52.687 --> 00:19:55.990
  • The police have been withdrawn.
  • 00:19:55.990 --> 00:19:57.659
  • The mayor, the governor,
  • 00:19:57.659 --> 00:19:58.893
  • The political leaders are not providing protection
  • 00:19:58.893 --> 00:20:02.096
  • For our federal law enforcement officers.
  • 00:20:02.096 --> 00:20:04.465
  • It is shameful. what's happening. it has to change.
  • 00:20:04.465 --> 00:20:07.902
  • Johnny t in south carolina asks,
  • 00:20:08.536 --> 00:20:10.705
  • What can we do as christians
  • 00:20:10.705 --> 00:20:11.906
  • When we are in a church that never mentions
  • 00:20:11.906 --> 00:20:13.775
  • What is happening in our country?
  • 00:20:13.775 --> 00:20:16.511
  • Well, johnny, my simplest answer is very short.
  • 00:20:16.511 --> 00:20:19.213
  • Find a new church.
  • 00:20:19.213 --> 00:20:21.182
  • Jesus said, if you follow a blind guide,
  • 00:20:21.182 --> 00:20:23.551
  • You will fall into a ditch.
  • 00:20:23.551 --> 00:20:25.653
  • You know, i think if we have a faith
  • 00:20:25.653 --> 00:20:27.622
  • That is only historical, we have a theoretical faith
  • 00:20:27.622 --> 00:20:31.225
  • And we won't flourish in this current season
  • 00:20:31.225 --> 00:20:34.095
  • If we don't have a faith that is living and vital,
  • 00:20:34.095 --> 00:20:36.631
  • That requires
  • 00:20:36.631 --> 00:20:37.765
  • Situational awareness of the world we are living in.
  • 00:20:37.765 --> 00:20:40.335
  • We've got to tell the truth in terms of today.
  • 00:20:40.335 --> 00:20:43.771
  • Thank you for spending a few minutes with us.
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  • It's always an honor.
  • 00:20:45.673 --> 00:20:47.575
  • I'm alan jackson, and you have a wonderful evening.
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