Lt. Col. Keith Isaacson joins Allen Jackson.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Day of Horror | Allen Jackson Now | January 2, 2026
- I'm really excited.
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- Introduced to you,
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- Colonel keith isaacson.
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- He's israeli,
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- And he was responsible for a big part of the defense
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- In the communities along the gaza border that suffered
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- So grievously on october the 7th, a couple of years ago.
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- So that horrendous terrorist attack is not theoretical
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- To him.
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- Most of the men he led lost their lives that day.
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- I think, his story will be a blessing to you.
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- You know, i know
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- Israel is in and the jewish
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- People are an increasingly controversial topic.
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- That's unfortunate.
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- It's especially unfortunate that much of the hatred is coming,
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- Or at least being supported from within the church.
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- It's not a new thing.
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- The christian church has been the primary sponsor of
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- Jew hatred through all the centuries.
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- That's probably the subject of another podcast.
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- I would just remind you
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- That our messiah is an observant jewish rabbi,
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- And that apart from the jewish people,
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- We would have no salvation.
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- We would have no covenants, we would have no scripture.
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- We would have no prophets.
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- We wouldn't have a messiah.
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- Biblically speaking, we are deeply indebted
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- To the jewish people.
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- That's not to say everything
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- That the state of israel does is correct
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- By any stretch of the imagination,
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- But those of us who are christ
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- Followers are indebted to the jewish people.
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- I think you'll enjoy colonel isaacson.
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- He has a
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- Remarkable story of triumph over tragedy.
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- I think what you'll note, i know it's
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- Not something that was so apparent to me
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- Was that in spite of the great loss of life, in the horrible
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- Suffering and heinous behavior,
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- He's not captured by hate.
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- There's a remarkable,
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- Freedom in his heart.
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- And i would extend that to you.
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- You know, evil touches all of our lives,
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- And we don't want to be consumed with hate.
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- And unforgiveness and resentment.
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- The kernel certainly isn't.
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- And i pray as you listen to his story,
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- That it will bring freedom to you
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- In the midst of your circumstances.
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- Well, this is colonel keith isaacson,
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- And i don't know your formal title. forgive me.
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- You're the director of security for ash coal,
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- Which is this region?
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- The region primarily, we would call it a county
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- Bordering the gaza area.
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- Too many americans get their news from unreliable
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- Sources, places of great integrity, like tiktok.
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- Although i'm not sure that has less integrity
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- Than some of the more celebrated formats these days.
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- So my apologies to tiktok,
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- But october
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- The 7th was personal to you.
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- It was your assignment and you were in the midst of that.
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- Can you give us just briefly
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- What happened to the impact of that?
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- I mean, i have the numbers 216 killed
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- There were under you,
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- But i mean, can you give us a bit of an overview?
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- So my region is,
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- 104 regions that, are around the cores,
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- Border.
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- It's the biggest one, 32 communities out of 66.
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- So, i mean, i'm in charge of 32 communities.
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- The communities are small, between 500
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- And 1200 people living in the community.
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- But it's very different to, you know, when i flew,
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- When i came in to nashville, i said, well,
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- Everything's open trees, lakes with ice, everything's closed.
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- Every community that i talk, i'm talking about is
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- Has got a fence, electric fence,
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- A road security, guards, cameras and everything.
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- And, we knew what was happening on the other side.
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- We knew that they're not our friends,
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- But, we didn't realize
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- That for 12 years, since
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- 2012, they've been organizing this attack.
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- And they surprised us.
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- They surprised us in four different ways. one,
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- The amount we are talking between five and a half to six,
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- 6000 terrorists that,
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- Penetrated the border. two,
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- A group that hit all the our,
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- Radar systems,
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- Cameras, radars and everything.
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- They did it in a very,
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- Professional way.
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- Three
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- At the same time, attacking 28 communities, 16
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- Of my communities, and the rest in the other,
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- Region all together, 28, communities simultaneously.
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- And the fourth thing,
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- Well, third thing, attacking all the bases.
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- We have many bases.
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- Small bases, like,
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- Companies, platoons, battalions, brigades, divisions.
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- They attacked all these,
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- Units simultaneously.
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- And the fourth thing that they did was very clever
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- Is they did ambushes in every,
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- Entrance to the 65 kilometer area.
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- So anyone that tried to come and help us,
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- Was attacked.
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- So these four things simultaneously,
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- By 6500 terrorists,
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- For the first 12 hours,
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- There's a lot of, chaos.
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- No one knew what was happening.
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- And, it was, a surprise. and,
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- Hopefully it won't happen again.
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- But we said that after the yom kippur war,
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- And we said that after the
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- Second world war.
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- So don't say never.
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- Just make sure that you already.
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- October 7th was the greatest loss of jewish life in the day.
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- Single day since the holocaust.
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- Exactly.
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- And there was personal use.
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- I heard you tell your story in another setting,
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- And your daughter was in another one of the communities,
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- And she was calling you for help,
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- While at the same time,
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- On friday the 6th of october,
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- We had dinner together at,
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- I think very similar to you guys.
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- We get or we get together.
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- So i have, two sets of twins.
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- They all came, for the,
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- For the dinner on friday.
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- One daughter went back to her
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- Small village, which is about ten minutes away.
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- My other daughter
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- Lives in tel-aviv, so she went back to tel aviv.
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- A third daughter lives about five minutes away,
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- Was in another community, and my son
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- Lives also in another community, also five minutes away.
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- So after dinner, they all, went to the,
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- Houses.
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- And my colonel,
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- Who has been a colonel for a year and a half,
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- Brought for the first time his young son to the base,
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- Six years old, and he asked me for a tv.
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- I said, no problem.
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- I wake up early on saturday and give you the tv.
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- Anyway, to cut things short,
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- I wake up very early at 629.
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- The tech starts.
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- My kids are all in different,
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- Communities.
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- I leave the house
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- Very quickly.
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- My colonel,
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- Who was killed,
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- At 7:00 in the morning already,
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- But at 629,
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- Sent me a message and said, get everyone into shelter.
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- Everyone means the 17,000 people living in my community.
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- So within three minutes, i sent a message
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- To 17,000 people getting to shelter.
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- I went home because i was outside, already got dressed
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- Into a uniform because i belong to the unit
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- And i'm automatically, recruited into the israeli army.
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- As i'm getting dressed at 640, he sends another message.
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- We have been attacked in multiple places,
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- So i said to wait.
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- Just tell me where, because we knew
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- We're going to be attacked one day. just tell me where.
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- Which community.
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- He said, know every day.
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- So at 643 in the morning,
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- I sent a message to all my officers.
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- I have 33 officers.
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- I said, get all your first responders out.
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- We had to warm.
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- 15 minutes later, he was already killed
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- And i was on my way to the base.
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- How many of your officers survived the day?
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- First of all, i didn't tell you about my family.
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- I wasn't gonna let you forget we were going back there.
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- Okay, so we'll go back to my family.
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- I lost 32 of my officers that day.
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- And everyone has a story behind them.
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- Everyone is a hero.
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- Because big.
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- Because losing those 32 officers,
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- We saved thousands.
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- They saved not me.
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- They saved
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- Thousands of their own people, their own communities.
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- Thousands of their own people, their own communities.
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- So in the midst of the chaos that morning,
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- Your daughter calls.
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- She calls?
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- I don't answer her.
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- She says, i hear
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- There's there's a lot of shooting in the community.
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- I had no communication because i said the communication was,
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- There was a problem.
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- So she phones.
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- I'm already in the field, so she phones my, operation room.
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- She says i hear a lot of shooting.
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- I didn't really know what was happening there.
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- I first said, go to your grandmother's house,
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- Going to the shelter and wait there.
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- And that's what she did.
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- At the end of the day,
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- 17 terrorists entered that community.
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- A lot of fighting.
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- Five of my officers were killed, two injured,
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- But no civilian.
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- The fighting was so severe,
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- And the most, probably
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- A lot were killed and injured from the enemy.
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- They just decided to steal two other cars,
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- And all 17, with the injured and with the dead.
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- Went back to gaza.
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- She stayed for ten hours in the safe room until my brother,
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- Who before since the morning was fighting,
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- At the junction, not letting any terrorists into
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- The seven particular communities where i live,
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- Killed many terrorists that day.
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- Only after ten hours went to him.
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- The other daughter with my grandchild.
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- She also tried to get hold of me
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- And, wanted to get permission for me to leave the community
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- And go towards a lot far away, but unfortunately, i,
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- I couldn't give her approval, and,
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- The reason was everyone talks about the 7th of october,
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- But the last terrorists that were killed
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- Were the 21st of october.
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- We were fighting for two weeks.
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- No one talks about it.
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- Yes, 95% of the fighting was the 7th of october,
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- But there were many, many pockets of terrorists.
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- They came very well,
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- Equipped.
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- They wanted to do much, much more what they did.
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- And, there was a lot, a lot of fighting for two weeks.
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- But we were we managed after two days by monday.
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- This happened on saturday, by monday,
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- To get all the 17,000 people out of the communities
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- To a lot to the hotels in a lot,
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- And to the dead sea and to tel-aviv,
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- And only a small group of security officers.
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- And of course, the army, took over this area.
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- After a year,
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- 22 communities came back
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- After two years.
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- About a month ago, another six communities came back.
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- And we are still full communities
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- That will take between a year to two years to rebuild
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- The communities because the they will hit the most.
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- So we still have full communities
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- That we are waiting for them to come back within a year
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- To two years.
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- You mentioned the
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- Shelters where everybody you directed everyone to go.
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- I think that's probably a little unknown to us.
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- We have shelters for tornadoes
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- In israel.
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- They build shelters from attacks.
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- Many homes have them, apartment buildings will have them,
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- And in communities will have larger shelters.
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- So when you said you sent all the people to the shelters,
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- It was to protect them
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- Because the attack started with rocket fire.
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- For many years,
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- Especially since 2001, we've been attacked
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- Sometimes once a month, sometimes,
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- Every couple of weeks, every couple of months.
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- Escalation.
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- We interrupt those communities along
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- Gaza have lived under consistent rocket fire. yes.
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- For many, many, many years.
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- Yes, 24 years.
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- So in my in,
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- We didn't expect the ground attack.
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- We we no, rocket attacks.
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- We used to rocket attacks every house.
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- First of all,
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- There's a law in israel since 1994
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- That you build a house, you have to have a bomb shelter.
- 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.502
- One of the rooms is a, certified bomb shelter.
- 00:14:13.502 --> 00:14:19.074
- And who didn't have in our area after 2014,
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- The government actually paid and built shelters.
- 00:14:24.646 --> 00:14:28.517
- So we were very used to these escalations,
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- These rockets falling on us,
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- For many times tens of thousands.
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- I would like to
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- Put a question mark, what would happen
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- If mexico will shoot one rocket
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- Into arizona, into texas?
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- What will happen to mexico?
- 00:14:49.805 --> 00:14:52.140
- So these, escalations have been going on for 21 years,
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- 24 years in our area.
- 00:14:57.746 --> 00:14:59.781
- So the instant of the 7th of october.
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- Okay, another,
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- Escalation,
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- A lot of rockets getting to the bomb shelters.
- 00:15:09.424 --> 00:15:12.694
- But unfortunately, sometimes
- 00:15:13.295 --> 00:15:15.731
- This was very different because of the ground attack.
- 00:15:15.731 --> 00:15:19.234
- And a
- 00:15:19.468 --> 00:15:20.535
- Lot of people also were killed in the bomb shelters
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- Because the terrorists came into the houses.
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- These houses, these bomb shelters are not,
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- Equipped, against,
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- Shooting into the doors.
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- It's not bulletproof doors.
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- It's bulletproof.
- 00:15:39.121 --> 00:15:40.789
- It's like a bulletproof building.
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- Concrete and everything.
- 00:15:42.758 --> 00:15:43.925
- But the doors are not bulletproof.
- 00:15:43.925 --> 00:15:46.228
- And it also it's not against smoke.
- 00:15:46.228 --> 00:15:48.263
- So what happened?
- 00:15:48.263 --> 00:15:50.532
- They shut the doors and people, actually, many, many families
- 00:15:50.532 --> 00:15:55.270
- Were holding the handle, because it doesn't really lock.
- 00:15:55.270 --> 00:15:58.840
- You don't really need to lock it because of bombs falling.
- 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.444
- So a lot of people were killed
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- From the bullets from the other side.
- 00:16:05.514 --> 00:16:08.216
- And where the terrorists couldn't get into
- 00:16:08.216 --> 00:16:11.453
- What they did, they just burnt the houses.
- 00:16:11.453 --> 00:16:13.655
- There are hundreds of houses,
- 00:16:13.655 --> 00:16:16.758
- That were burnt and most of the victims,
- 00:16:17.592 --> 00:16:21.563
- Were found
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- Found afterwards dead or the remains of the victims.
- 00:16:23.198 --> 00:16:33.997
- Found afterwards dead or the remains of the victims.
- 00:16:33.997 --> 00:16:38.182
- I know you want to be respectful
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- Of where you are, but the truth is important on this.
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- I went to to dc, to the embassy to see
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- Some of the security video and such.
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- And the attack began with train terrorist.
- 00:16:50.594 --> 00:16:53.964
- But it wasn't limited to that.
- 00:16:54.565 --> 00:16:56.700
- The citizens of gaza on their bicycles,
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- In their pickup trucks.
- 00:16:59.203 --> 00:17:01.605
- I mean, it lasted for several hours
- 00:17:01.605 --> 00:17:03.207
- And they came in waves.
- 00:17:03.207 --> 00:17:05.342
- And when they arrived at the treatment,
- 00:17:05.342 --> 00:17:07.211
- It wasn't like you would expect from combatants.
- 00:17:07.211 --> 00:17:10.881
- I don't have language to describe it.
- 00:17:10.881 --> 00:17:12.549
- It wasn't.
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- There was nothing about it.
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- Humane.
- 00:17:14.384 --> 00:17:17.354
- You know, one thing i learned?
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- We have a new mayor.
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- It's, lady,
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- And i heard it said, you know, we say they're not.
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- They're not human beings.
- 00:17:25.429 --> 00:17:26.964
- They're animals, they're monsters. and she said, no,
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- The human beings
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- That have learned to hate kill.
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- Destroy.
- 00:17:38.842 --> 00:17:40.577
- Now, you write a few waves.
- 00:17:40.577 --> 00:17:44.248
- For instance, kibbutz near us.
- 00:17:44.848 --> 00:17:47.718
- That's the kibbutz that was hit, the most in my area.
- 00:17:47.718 --> 00:17:52.156
- Most severe 76 hostages from that community.
- 00:17:52.156 --> 00:17:56.493
- There's only 400 people living in there.
- 00:17:56.493 --> 00:17:58.662
- 39 were killed that day.
- 00:17:58.662 --> 00:18:01.165
- First wave was 120.
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- What we call the number.
- 00:18:03.233 --> 00:18:04.568
- The elite of the hamas.
- 00:18:04.568 --> 00:18:07.671
- But they were not the worst.
- 00:18:08.272 --> 00:18:10.941
- The second and third wave.
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- What we say civilians.
- 00:18:12.976 --> 00:18:17.080
- They did the worst atrocities, the civilians.
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- They did not have the weapons, the never trained
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- To kill.
- 00:18:25.422 --> 00:18:26.890
- They came whatever they can get
- 00:18:26.890 --> 00:18:29.560
- Slaughtered, raped,
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- Amputated and whatever you can think of,
- 00:18:31.762 --> 00:18:35.265
- It's the civilians that did
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- The worst atrocities to our communities.
- 00:18:37.668 --> 00:18:40.804
- Some of you remember right after october 7th,
- 00:18:40.804 --> 00:18:42.973
- There was a number of people saying it was all a fabrication.
- 00:18:42.973 --> 00:18:51.999
- There was a number of people saying it was all a fabrication.
- 00:18:51.999 --> 00:18:56.152
- Well, i've heard you say that one of the goals of hamas
- 00:18:57.220 --> 00:18:59.822
- Was to drive the israelis out, particularly so
- 00:18:59.822 --> 00:19:02.758
- The young families would never come back.
- 00:19:02.758 --> 00:19:06.095
- One of the hostages was a very good friend of mine,
- 00:19:06.095 --> 00:19:09.398
- And she phoned me up at 8:00 asking for help,
- 00:19:09.398 --> 00:19:13.035
- And then 10:00 asking again for help.
- 00:19:13.035 --> 00:19:16.172
- At 12, she herself her husband to to her twins who,
- 00:19:16.172 --> 00:19:22.011
- Kidnaped she came back after a month
- 00:19:22.812 --> 00:19:25.982
- And a month and 50, 50 something days with her two kids.
- 00:19:25.982 --> 00:19:31.153
- And when she came back.
- 00:19:31.153 --> 00:19:34.190
- I didn't call her.
- 00:19:34.624 --> 00:19:35.825
- I was it wasn't for me.
- 00:19:35.825 --> 00:19:37.827
- But she phoned me and she said she wants to talk to me.
- 00:19:37.827 --> 00:19:41.030
- And she said they kept
- 00:19:41.497 --> 00:19:43.699
- Asking her all the time, are you going back?
- 00:19:43.699 --> 00:19:48.004
- She's from niros, from that community that was suffered.
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- Are you going to go back?
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- Of course she's not stupid.
- 00:19:53.042 --> 00:19:54.410
- She says, no, i'm not going back.
- 00:19:54.410 --> 00:19:58.247
- But they asked
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- Many, many times the hamas,
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- There were a few groups, groups to kill,
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- Groups to,
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- The main thing is to kidnap and capture.
- 00:20:09.458 --> 00:20:13.062
- That was the main goal.
- 00:20:13.062 --> 00:20:15.865
- And the third group was to destroy.
- 00:20:15.865 --> 00:20:19.735
- And that idea to destroy doesn't also matter
- 00:20:19.735 --> 00:20:22.371
- If they killed the about 40,
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- Or maybe a bit more time workers at work in our area
- 00:20:27.176 --> 00:20:30.046
- That were killed.
- 00:20:30.046 --> 00:20:30.913
- It didn't really matter to them
- 00:20:30.913 --> 00:20:32.915
- In the idea was to destroy and kill and make sure
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- That we won't want to come and live in that area again.
- 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.558
- But, they don't know who they dealing with.
- 00:20:43.459 --> 00:20:47.063
- Not only that, we not coming back.
- 00:20:47.797 --> 00:20:50.900
- We are rebuilding.
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- We are going to expand,
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- And we are going to be better and better and better.
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