Allen Jackson: Day of Horror | Allen Jackson Now

January 2, 2026 | 22:32

Lt. Col. Keith Isaacson joins Allen Jackson.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Day of Horror | Allen Jackson Now | January 2, 2026
  • I'm really excited.
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  • Introduced to you,
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  • Colonel keith isaacson.
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  • He's israeli,
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  • And he was responsible for a big part of the defense
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  • In the communities along the gaza border that suffered
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  • So grievously on october the 7th, a couple of years ago.
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  • So that horrendous terrorist attack is not theoretical
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  • To him.
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  • Most of the men he led lost their lives that day.
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  • I think, his story will be a blessing to you.
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  • You know, i know
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  • Israel is in and the jewish
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  • People are an increasingly controversial topic.
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  • That's unfortunate.
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  • It's especially unfortunate that much of the hatred is coming,
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  • Or at least being supported from within the church.
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  • It's not a new thing.
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  • The christian church has been the primary sponsor of
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  • Jew hatred through all the centuries.
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  • That's probably the subject of another podcast.
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  • I would just remind you
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  • That our messiah is an observant jewish rabbi,
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  • And that apart from the jewish people,
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  • We would have no salvation.
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  • We would have no covenants, we would have no scripture.
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  • We would have no prophets.
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  • We wouldn't have a messiah.
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  • Biblically speaking, we are deeply indebted
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  • To the jewish people.
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  • That's not to say everything
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  • That the state of israel does is correct
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  • By any stretch of the imagination,
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  • But those of us who are christ
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  • Followers are indebted to the jewish people.
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  • I think you'll enjoy colonel isaacson.
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  • He has a
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  • Remarkable story of triumph over tragedy.
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  • I think what you'll note, i know it's
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  • Not something that was so apparent to me
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  • Was that in spite of the great loss of life, in the horrible
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  • Suffering and heinous behavior,
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  • He's not captured by hate.
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  • There's a remarkable,
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  • Freedom in his heart.
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  • And i would extend that to you.
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  • You know, evil touches all of our lives,
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  • And we don't want to be consumed with hate.
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  • And unforgiveness and resentment.
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  • The kernel certainly isn't.
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  • And i pray as you listen to his story,
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  • That it will bring freedom to you
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  • In the midst of your circumstances.
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  • Well, this is colonel keith isaacson,
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  • And i don't know your formal title. forgive me.
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  • You're the director of security for ash coal,
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  • Which is this region?
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  • The region primarily, we would call it a county
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  • Bordering the gaza area.
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  • Too many americans get their news from unreliable
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  • Sources, places of great integrity, like tiktok.
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  • Although i'm not sure that has less integrity
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  • Than some of the more celebrated formats these days.
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  • So my apologies to tiktok,
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  • But october
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  • The 7th was personal to you.
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  • It was your assignment and you were in the midst of that.
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  • Can you give us just briefly
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  • What happened to the impact of that?
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  • I mean, i have the numbers 216 killed
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  • There were under you,
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  • But i mean, can you give us a bit of an overview?
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  • So my region is,
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  • 104 regions that, are around the cores,
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  • Border.
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  • It's the biggest one, 32 communities out of 66.
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  • So, i mean, i'm in charge of 32 communities.
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  • The communities are small, between 500
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  • And 1200 people living in the community.
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  • But it's very different to, you know, when i flew,
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  • When i came in to nashville, i said, well,
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  • Everything's open trees, lakes with ice, everything's closed.
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  • Every community that i talk, i'm talking about is
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  • Has got a fence, electric fence,
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  • A road security, guards, cameras and everything.
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  • And, we knew what was happening on the other side.
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  • We knew that they're not our friends,
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  • But, we didn't realize
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  • That for 12 years, since
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  • 2012, they've been organizing this attack.
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  • And they surprised us.
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  • They surprised us in four different ways. one,
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  • The amount we are talking between five and a half to six,
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  • 6000 terrorists that,
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  • Penetrated the border. two,
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  • A group that hit all the our,
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  • Radar systems,
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  • Cameras, radars and everything.
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  • They did it in a very,
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  • Professional way.
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  • Three
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  • At the same time, attacking 28 communities, 16
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  • Of my communities, and the rest in the other,
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  • Region all together, 28, communities simultaneously.
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  • And the fourth thing,
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  • Well, third thing, attacking all the bases.
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  • We have many bases.
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  • Small bases, like,
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  • Companies, platoons, battalions, brigades, divisions.
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  • They attacked all these,
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  • Units simultaneously.
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  • And the fourth thing that they did was very clever
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  • Is they did ambushes in every,
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  • Entrance to the 65 kilometer area.
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  • So anyone that tried to come and help us,
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  • Was attacked.
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  • So these four things simultaneously,
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  • By 6500 terrorists,
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  • For the first 12 hours,
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  • There's a lot of, chaos.
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  • No one knew what was happening.
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  • And, it was, a surprise. and,
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  • Hopefully it won't happen again.
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  • But we said that after the yom kippur war,
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  • And we said that after the
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  • Second world war.
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  • So don't say never.
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  • Just make sure that you already.
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  • October 7th was the greatest loss of jewish life in the day.
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  • Single day since the holocaust.
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  • Exactly.
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  • And there was personal use.
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  • I heard you tell your story in another setting,
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  • And your daughter was in another one of the communities,
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  • And she was calling you for help,
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  • While at the same time,
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  • On friday the 6th of october,
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  • We had dinner together at,
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  • I think very similar to you guys.
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  • We get or we get together.
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  • So i have, two sets of twins.
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  • They all came, for the,
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  • For the dinner on friday.
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  • One daughter went back to her
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  • Small village, which is about ten minutes away.
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  • My other daughter
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  • Lives in tel-aviv, so she went back to tel aviv.
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  • A third daughter lives about five minutes away,
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  • Was in another community, and my son
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  • Lives also in another community, also five minutes away.
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  • So after dinner, they all, went to the,
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  • Houses.
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  • And my colonel,
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  • Who has been a colonel for a year and a half,
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  • Brought for the first time his young son to the base,
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  • Six years old, and he asked me for a tv.
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  • I said, no problem.
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  • I wake up early on saturday and give you the tv.
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  • Anyway, to cut things short,
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  • I wake up very early at 629.
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  • The tech starts.
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  • My kids are all in different,
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  • Communities.
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  • I leave the house
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  • Very quickly.
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  • My colonel,
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  • Who was killed,
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  • At 7:00 in the morning already,
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  • But at 629,
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  • Sent me a message and said, get everyone into shelter.
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  • Everyone means the 17,000 people living in my community.
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  • So within three minutes, i sent a message
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  • To 17,000 people getting to shelter.
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  • I went home because i was outside, already got dressed
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  • Into a uniform because i belong to the unit
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  • And i'm automatically, recruited into the israeli army.
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  • As i'm getting dressed at 640, he sends another message.
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  • We have been attacked in multiple places,
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  • So i said to wait.
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  • Just tell me where, because we knew
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  • We're going to be attacked one day. just tell me where.
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  • Which community.
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  • He said, know every day.
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  • So at 643 in the morning,
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  • I sent a message to all my officers.
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  • I have 33 officers.
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  • I said, get all your first responders out.
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  • We had to warm.
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  • 15 minutes later, he was already killed
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  • And i was on my way to the base.
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  • How many of your officers survived the day?
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  • First of all, i didn't tell you about my family.
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  • I wasn't gonna let you forget we were going back there.
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  • Okay, so we'll go back to my family.
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  • I lost 32 of my officers that day.
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  • And everyone has a story behind them.
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  • Everyone is a hero.
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  • Because big.
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  • Because losing those 32 officers,
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  • We saved thousands.
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  • They saved not me.
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  • They saved
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  • Thousands of their own people, their own communities.
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  • Thousands of their own people, their own communities.
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  • So in the midst of the chaos that morning,
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  • Your daughter calls.
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  • She calls?
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  • I don't answer her.
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  • She says, i hear
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  • There's there's a lot of shooting in the community.
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  • I had no communication because i said the communication was,
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  • There was a problem.
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  • So she phones.
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  • I'm already in the field, so she phones my, operation room.
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  • She says i hear a lot of shooting.
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  • I didn't really know what was happening there.
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  • I first said, go to your grandmother's house,
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  • Going to the shelter and wait there.
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  • And that's what she did.
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  • At the end of the day,
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  • 17 terrorists entered that community.
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  • A lot of fighting.
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  • Five of my officers were killed, two injured,
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  • But no civilian.
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  • The fighting was so severe,
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  • And the most, probably
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  • A lot were killed and injured from the enemy.
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  • They just decided to steal two other cars,
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  • And all 17, with the injured and with the dead.
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  • Went back to gaza.
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  • She stayed for ten hours in the safe room until my brother,
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  • Who before since the morning was fighting,
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  • At the junction, not letting any terrorists into
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  • The seven particular communities where i live,
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  • Killed many terrorists that day.
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  • Only after ten hours went to him.
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  • The other daughter with my grandchild.
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  • She also tried to get hold of me
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  • And, wanted to get permission for me to leave the community
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  • And go towards a lot far away, but unfortunately, i,
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  • I couldn't give her approval, and,
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  • The reason was everyone talks about the 7th of october,
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  • But the last terrorists that were killed
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  • Were the 21st of october.
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  • We were fighting for two weeks.
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  • No one talks about it.
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  • Yes, 95% of the fighting was the 7th of october,
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  • But there were many, many pockets of terrorists.
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  • They came very well,
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  • Equipped.
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  • They wanted to do much, much more what they did.
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  • And, there was a lot, a lot of fighting for two weeks.
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  • But we were we managed after two days by monday.
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  • This happened on saturday, by monday,
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  • To get all the 17,000 people out of the communities
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  • To a lot to the hotels in a lot,
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  • And to the dead sea and to tel-aviv,
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  • And only a small group of security officers.
  • 00:12:27.830 --> 00:12:31.099
  • And of course, the army, took over this area.
  • 00:12:31.099 --> 00:12:35.671
  • After a year,
  • 00:12:36.038 --> 00:12:37.706
  • 22 communities came back
  • 00:12:37.706 --> 00:12:40.776
  • After two years.
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  • About a month ago, another six communities came back.
  • 00:12:42.678 --> 00:12:46.081
  • And we are still full communities
  • 00:12:46.849 --> 00:12:49.484
  • That will take between a year to two years to rebuild
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  • The communities because the they will hit the most.
  • 00:12:53.922 --> 00:12:56.959
  • So we still have full communities
  • 00:12:56.959 --> 00:12:59.494
  • That we are waiting for them to come back within a year
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  • To two years.
  • 00:13:02.364 --> 00:13:04.700
  • You mentioned the
  • 00:13:05.133 --> 00:13:06.268
  • Shelters where everybody you directed everyone to go.
  • 00:13:06.268 --> 00:13:09.037
  • I think that's probably a little unknown to us.
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  • We have shelters for tornadoes
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  • In israel.
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  • They build shelters from attacks.
  • 00:13:15.110 --> 00:13:18.146
  • Many homes have them, apartment buildings will have them,
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  • And in communities will have larger shelters.
  • 00:13:20.816 --> 00:13:24.219
  • So when you said you sent all the people to the shelters,
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  • It was to protect them
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  • Because the attack started with rocket fire.
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  • For many years,
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  • Especially since 2001, we've been attacked
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  • Sometimes once a month, sometimes,
  • 00:13:38.500 --> 00:13:41.970
  • Every couple of weeks, every couple of months.
  • 00:13:41.970 --> 00:13:44.373
  • Escalation.
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  • We interrupt those communities along
  • 00:13:45.207 --> 00:13:46.742
  • Gaza have lived under consistent rocket fire. yes.
  • 00:13:46.742 --> 00:13:49.945
  • For many, many, many years.
  • 00:13:49.945 --> 00:13:51.847
  • Yes, 24 years.
  • 00:13:51.847 --> 00:13:54.549
  • So in my in,
  • 00:13:54.549 --> 00:13:57.019
  • We didn't expect the ground attack.
  • 00:13:57.019 --> 00:13:59.554
  • We we no, rocket attacks.
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  • We used to rocket attacks every house.
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  • First of all,
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  • There's a law in israel since 1994
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  • That you build a house, you have to have a bomb shelter.
  • 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.502
  • One of the rooms is a, certified bomb shelter.
  • 00:14:13.502 --> 00:14:19.074
  • And who didn't have in our area after 2014,
  • 00:14:19.975 --> 00:14:24.646
  • The government actually paid and built shelters.
  • 00:14:24.646 --> 00:14:28.517
  • So we were very used to these escalations,
  • 00:14:28.517 --> 00:14:32.020
  • These rockets falling on us,
  • 00:14:32.020 --> 00:14:34.957
  • For many times tens of thousands.
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  • I would like to
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  • Put a question mark, what would happen
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  • If mexico will shoot one rocket
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  • Into arizona, into texas?
  • 00:14:46.735 --> 00:14:49.805
  • What will happen to mexico?
  • 00:14:49.805 --> 00:14:52.140
  • So these, escalations have been going on for 21 years,
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  • 24 years in our area.
  • 00:14:57.746 --> 00:14:59.781
  • So the instant of the 7th of october.
  • 00:14:59.781 --> 00:15:03.552
  • Okay, another,
  • 00:15:03.885 --> 00:15:07.522
  • Escalation,
  • 00:15:07.856 --> 00:15:09.424
  • A lot of rockets getting to the bomb shelters.
  • 00:15:09.424 --> 00:15:12.694
  • But unfortunately, sometimes
  • 00:15:13.295 --> 00:15:15.731
  • This was very different because of the ground attack.
  • 00:15:15.731 --> 00:15:19.234
  • And a
  • 00:15:19.468 --> 00:15:20.535
  • Lot of people also were killed in the bomb shelters
  • 00:15:20.535 --> 00:15:23.505
  • Because the terrorists came into the houses.
  • 00:15:23.505 --> 00:15:26.675
  • These houses, these bomb shelters are not,
  • 00:15:27.576 --> 00:15:30.779
  • Equipped, against,
  • 00:15:30.779 --> 00:15:34.816
  • Shooting into the doors.
  • 00:15:35.350 --> 00:15:36.985
  • It's not bulletproof doors.
  • 00:15:36.985 --> 00:15:39.121
  • It's bulletproof.
  • 00:15:39.121 --> 00:15:40.789
  • It's like a bulletproof building.
  • 00:15:40.789 --> 00:15:42.758
  • Concrete and everything.
  • 00:15:42.758 --> 00:15:43.925
  • But the doors are not bulletproof.
  • 00:15:43.925 --> 00:15:46.228
  • And it also it's not against smoke.
  • 00:15:46.228 --> 00:15:48.263
  • So what happened?
  • 00:15:48.263 --> 00:15:50.532
  • They shut the doors and people, actually, many, many families
  • 00:15:50.532 --> 00:15:55.270
  • Were holding the handle, because it doesn't really lock.
  • 00:15:55.270 --> 00:15:58.840
  • You don't really need to lock it because of bombs falling.
  • 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.444
  • So a lot of people were killed
  • 00:16:02.444 --> 00:16:05.514
  • From the bullets from the other side.
  • 00:16:05.514 --> 00:16:08.216
  • And where the terrorists couldn't get into
  • 00:16:08.216 --> 00:16:11.453
  • What they did, they just burnt the houses.
  • 00:16:11.453 --> 00:16:13.655
  • There are hundreds of houses,
  • 00:16:13.655 --> 00:16:16.758
  • That were burnt and most of the victims,
  • 00:16:17.592 --> 00:16:21.563
  • Were found
  • 00:16:21.863 --> 00:16:23.198
  • Found afterwards dead or the remains of the victims.
  • 00:16:23.198 --> 00:16:33.997
  • Found afterwards dead or the remains of the victims.
  • 00:16:33.997 --> 00:16:38.182
  • I know you want to be respectful
  • 00:16:38.816 --> 00:16:40.117
  • Of where you are, but the truth is important on this.
  • 00:16:40.117 --> 00:16:43.821
  • I went to to dc, to the embassy to see
  • 00:16:43.821 --> 00:16:46.323
  • Some of the security video and such.
  • 00:16:46.323 --> 00:16:49.726
  • And the attack began with train terrorist.
  • 00:16:50.594 --> 00:16:53.964
  • But it wasn't limited to that.
  • 00:16:54.565 --> 00:16:56.700
  • The citizens of gaza on their bicycles,
  • 00:16:56.700 --> 00:16:59.203
  • In their pickup trucks.
  • 00:16:59.203 --> 00:17:01.605
  • I mean, it lasted for several hours
  • 00:17:01.605 --> 00:17:03.207
  • And they came in waves.
  • 00:17:03.207 --> 00:17:05.342
  • And when they arrived at the treatment,
  • 00:17:05.342 --> 00:17:07.211
  • It wasn't like you would expect from combatants.
  • 00:17:07.211 --> 00:17:10.881
  • I don't have language to describe it.
  • 00:17:10.881 --> 00:17:12.549
  • It wasn't.
  • 00:17:12.549 --> 00:17:13.550
  • There was nothing about it.
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  • Humane.
  • 00:17:14.384 --> 00:17:17.354
  • You know, one thing i learned?
  • 00:17:17.354 --> 00:17:19.490
  • We have a new mayor.
  • 00:17:19.490 --> 00:17:20.624
  • It's, lady,
  • 00:17:20.624 --> 00:17:23.227
  • And i heard it said, you know, we say they're not.
  • 00:17:23.227 --> 00:17:25.429
  • They're not human beings.
  • 00:17:25.429 --> 00:17:26.964
  • They're animals, they're monsters. and she said, no,
  • 00:17:26.964 --> 00:17:31.101
  • The human beings
  • 00:17:31.502 --> 00:17:32.970
  • That have learned to hate kill.
  • 00:17:32.970 --> 00:17:38.575
  • Destroy.
  • 00:17:38.842 --> 00:17:40.577
  • Now, you write a few waves.
  • 00:17:40.577 --> 00:17:44.248
  • For instance, kibbutz near us.
  • 00:17:44.848 --> 00:17:47.718
  • That's the kibbutz that was hit, the most in my area.
  • 00:17:47.718 --> 00:17:52.156
  • Most severe 76 hostages from that community.
  • 00:17:52.156 --> 00:17:56.493
  • There's only 400 people living in there.
  • 00:17:56.493 --> 00:17:58.662
  • 39 were killed that day.
  • 00:17:58.662 --> 00:18:01.165
  • First wave was 120.
  • 00:18:01.165 --> 00:18:03.233
  • What we call the number.
  • 00:18:03.233 --> 00:18:04.568
  • The elite of the hamas.
  • 00:18:04.568 --> 00:18:07.671
  • But they were not the worst.
  • 00:18:08.272 --> 00:18:10.941
  • The second and third wave.
  • 00:18:10.941 --> 00:18:12.976
  • What we say civilians.
  • 00:18:12.976 --> 00:18:17.080
  • They did the worst atrocities, the civilians.
  • 00:18:17.948 --> 00:18:20.751
  • They did not have the weapons, the never trained
  • 00:18:20.751 --> 00:18:25.155
  • To kill.
  • 00:18:25.422 --> 00:18:26.890
  • They came whatever they can get
  • 00:18:26.890 --> 00:18:29.560
  • Slaughtered, raped,
  • 00:18:29.560 --> 00:18:31.762
  • Amputated and whatever you can think of,
  • 00:18:31.762 --> 00:18:35.265
  • It's the civilians that did
  • 00:18:35.265 --> 00:18:37.668
  • The worst atrocities to our communities.
  • 00:18:37.668 --> 00:18:40.804
  • Some of you remember right after october 7th,
  • 00:18:40.804 --> 00:18:42.973
  • There was a number of people saying it was all a fabrication.
  • 00:18:42.973 --> 00:18:51.999
  • There was a number of people saying it was all a fabrication.
  • 00:18:51.999 --> 00:18:56.152
  • Well, i've heard you say that one of the goals of hamas
  • 00:18:57.220 --> 00:18:59.822
  • Was to drive the israelis out, particularly so
  • 00:18:59.822 --> 00:19:02.758
  • The young families would never come back.
  • 00:19:02.758 --> 00:19:06.095
  • One of the hostages was a very good friend of mine,
  • 00:19:06.095 --> 00:19:09.398
  • And she phoned me up at 8:00 asking for help,
  • 00:19:09.398 --> 00:19:13.035
  • And then 10:00 asking again for help.
  • 00:19:13.035 --> 00:19:16.172
  • At 12, she herself her husband to to her twins who,
  • 00:19:16.172 --> 00:19:22.011
  • Kidnaped she came back after a month
  • 00:19:22.812 --> 00:19:25.982
  • And a month and 50, 50 something days with her two kids.
  • 00:19:25.982 --> 00:19:31.153
  • And when she came back.
  • 00:19:31.153 --> 00:19:34.190
  • I didn't call her.
  • 00:19:34.624 --> 00:19:35.825
  • I was it wasn't for me.
  • 00:19:35.825 --> 00:19:37.827
  • But she phoned me and she said she wants to talk to me.
  • 00:19:37.827 --> 00:19:41.030
  • And she said they kept
  • 00:19:41.497 --> 00:19:43.699
  • Asking her all the time, are you going back?
  • 00:19:43.699 --> 00:19:48.004
  • She's from niros, from that community that was suffered.
  • 00:19:48.004 --> 00:19:51.340
  • Are you going to go back?
  • 00:19:51.340 --> 00:19:53.042
  • Of course she's not stupid.
  • 00:19:53.042 --> 00:19:54.410
  • She says, no, i'm not going back.
  • 00:19:54.410 --> 00:19:58.247
  • But they asked
  • 00:19:58.581 --> 00:19:59.415
  • Many, many times the hamas,
  • 00:19:59.415 --> 00:20:02.752
  • There were a few groups, groups to kill,
  • 00:20:02.752 --> 00:20:06.522
  • Groups to,
  • 00:20:06.822 --> 00:20:09.458
  • The main thing is to kidnap and capture.
  • 00:20:09.458 --> 00:20:13.062
  • That was the main goal.
  • 00:20:13.062 --> 00:20:15.865
  • And the third group was to destroy.
  • 00:20:15.865 --> 00:20:19.735
  • And that idea to destroy doesn't also matter
  • 00:20:19.735 --> 00:20:22.371
  • If they killed the about 40,
  • 00:20:22.371 --> 00:20:26.108
  • Or maybe a bit more time workers at work in our area
  • 00:20:27.176 --> 00:20:30.046
  • That were killed.
  • 00:20:30.046 --> 00:20:30.913
  • It didn't really matter to them
  • 00:20:30.913 --> 00:20:32.915
  • In the idea was to destroy and kill and make sure
  • 00:20:32.915 --> 00:20:37.920
  • That we won't want to come and live in that area again.
  • 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:42.558
  • But, they don't know who they dealing with.
  • 00:20:43.459 --> 00:20:47.063
  • Not only that, we not coming back.
  • 00:20:47.797 --> 00:20:50.900
  • We are rebuilding.
  • 00:20:50.900 --> 00:20:52.568
  • We are going to expand,
  • 00:20:52.568 --> 00:20:54.904
  • And we are going to be better and better and better.
  • 00:20:54.904 --> 00:20:54.904