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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Deal Breakthrough | Allen Jackson Now | October 9, 2025

Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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It is a good evening indeed.
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After two long years, there is peace in israel and gaza.
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And the hostages are coming home to their loved ones.
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There were plenty of people who thought it might never happen.
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But even as hamas was withering, president trump never gave up.
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The tenacity of
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He and his negotiating team was a force to behold.
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Well, joining us tonight to discuss is the senior fellow
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At the heritage foundation, brant sadler.
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Welcome, sir. hi.
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Thank you for having me on, allen.
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This is such great news for the people of israel
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And especially for the families of the hostages.
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So please begin by just giving us
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A sense of how this got done, despite all the odds against it.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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It actually goes back, about a year for israel's
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Successful operations against, hezbollah, of course, hamas.
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It continued to grind down.
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And then more recently, in the summer,
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The attacks against iran
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And their nuclear regime that included
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No, some very precise attacks from u.s.
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Military forces.
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Altogether, the forces that benefited
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From sowing this kind of violence,
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Iranian regime, principally, had been set back and unable
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To resupply or provide any meaningful support to hamas.
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And then with the success of the abraham accords,
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Which goes back to president trump's
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First term, you had a context of willing partners
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That wanted to work with israel in a host of issues, economic,
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And now are engaging in that same level of trust
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To try to rebuild better for the palestinians in gaza,
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Absent any future with hamas.
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And that's how we got to where we are.
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Force the threat from force has always been necessary
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To compel a group, a terrorist group like hamas, of course.
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And that danger that
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That sort of damocles is still hanging over their head.
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Brit, i think that's such an important point.
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You know,
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I read where doctor scott peck once said that
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The only thing
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Evil will yield to is a power greater than itself.
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And so this hostage
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Release isn't just the result of a clever negotiation,
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But an expression of power and authority in the region over
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Many months. did i understand that correctly?
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Absolutely, absolutely.
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I think it's the embodiment of president trump.
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Austin talks about the art of the deal.
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It's not just what happens on the paper
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Or what's written in the paper,
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Or what happens in the boardroom in the negotiation,
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But what happens in the lead up and what happens in the
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In the room next to.
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So setting the right context is, i think, more important
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In getting this piece, which could be regional piece set.
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Well, i want our viewers to see and hear
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How the people of israel responded
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When they heard the news in israel's hostage square.
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It's just outside the museum of art in tel aviv.
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I know i see on.
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Here.
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Thank you. john.
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Thank you.
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You were right.
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Know, brant,
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From what you've seen across the past
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Few months,
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How are the hostages who were released earlier this year?
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Doing now?
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Well, what we've seen is they are recovering quickly once
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They've gotten out
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Of the clutches of hamas and their depraved conditions.
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They were kept under
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Their health and last point seems to be recovering.
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There's going to be some, as you know,
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The only people i've run into, like senator mccain,
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Who was a prisoner of war in hanoi hilton for many years.
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There are going to be scars
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And physical damage to to many of these folks
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That they're going to be living with
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For the rest of their lives.
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But for the most part, it appears the families are happy.
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Very much so.
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And the people
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That the prisoners that they have released,
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The hostages are pretty much all on the up and up.
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By all accounts.
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You know, i realize that some
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Of the details are still being worked out,
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But tell us what you can about the larger peace plan.
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Yeah, the larger peace plan.
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It really begins
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With the positive vision that president trump laid out
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With his very successful abraham accords.
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It was a deal that was to basically acknowledge
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What is already existing.
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Many of these countries in the middle east,
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While outwardly
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Saying some pretty reprehensible things
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And being very negative or anti-israel.
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Privately, they were more than willing
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To do business and to grow that business
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And even to exchange, like, have cultural exchanges.
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So building on that, the abraham accords kind of codified it.
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And one of the theories is that saudi arabia's joining of
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That is one of the triggers for iran to agitate its proxies
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To attack on october 6th and or seventh in 2023.
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So the possibility is because there's an appetite
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Across the region for something new and something positive.
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And all they needed was something to center
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Around some gravitational or positive image.
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And that seems to be the abraham accords.
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You know,
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I've been told that lebanon and maybe even
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Syria could be brought into those abraham accords.
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Have you heard any of that?
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I've heard that.
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I think lebanon
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Is a very distinct possibility, especially as they deal
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With making sure that hezbollah remains disarmed
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And only a political body inside lebanon that respects
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The national government, that becomes very likely.
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Syria is still in the throes of coming out of a decade
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Long civil war.
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But clearly,
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If the leadership there continues
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Signaling their willingness to join into it,
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That's a good sign that perhaps the worst in the region
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Can actually come over
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And become one of the partners for peace.
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One of the tougher
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Aspects of this negotiation is getting hamas to disarm.
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I can't think of any terrorist
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Group that has ever done that, at least for any length of time.
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Do you have any reference for that?
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Well, some of the terrorist organizations
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That have been disarmed have been done
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Through the force of arms or being incarcerated.
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I think many of the communist inspired ones, marxist
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Inspired ones in europe at the height of the cold war.
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But i think in this case, i think it's a critical
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To mention the success of this 21 point peace plan that
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President trump unveiled doesn't rely it's not conditioned
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On hamas's acquiescence or putting down its weapons.
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They can do it the hard way,
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Which means they continue to fight on until they're extinct.
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Or they can do the easy way.
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They lay down their weapons
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And they're allowed to go somewhere else to host them.
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Well, i know a part of this deal involves releasing
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Hundreds of palestinian prisoners.
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You know, that's exactly how it's been done before.
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Do you think they'll have to be
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Returned to somewhere other than the gaza strip this time?
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This is a good question.
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It's a detail that i think is extremely important.
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No real insight.
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Exactly how
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This is going to play out, i would assume is past is prolog
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That these folks
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Are going to be let back to their families in gaza,
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But also as long as hamas exists.
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Also back to their former bosses.
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And again, the key part of this, this peace plan is that
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Hamas has no future in gaza or the palestinian territories,
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And instead a new provisional technocratic,
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But certainly with, oversight from the united states,
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Israel and other trusted middle eastern countries,
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A government type governance body.
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So hopefully, we don't see the past repeat,
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Even though we're giving back quite a lot of very bad actors.
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Well, you've alluded to it already,
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But the wider peace plan involves several arab countries.
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It's not just about hamas in gaza.
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It's got the makings of another abraham accords.
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What can you tell us about who worked
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With the president's team to get this deal?
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Not too much insight on that.
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It's been done very well to keep it, to keep it under wraps.
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What other players were engaged?
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You saw some of the pictures in there
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That have been
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That have been made public since the announcement of this
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Agreement by hamas in turkey.
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Egypt certainly stand out in that.
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Guterres role has been long acknowledged.
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But there are
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Probably other players as well that are also involved,
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But we just haven't heard what the role has been.
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Well, brian, we need to take a short break.
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But if you'll stay with us for another segment,
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There's a lot more to discuss.
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We'll be right back.
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We'll be right back.
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We're back now with a senior fellow at the heritage
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Foundation and former navy captain brant sadler.
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You know, the nobel peace prize is typically awarded
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In early december.
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They've been giving it out every year
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Since 1901, and there's never been anyone who's created
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More peace than president trump in such a short period of time.
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Less than a year.
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Am i right in that assessment?
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Absolutely.
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I think the very strong case
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And i would say an overdue one, quite frankly, for
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President trump being awarded the nobel peace prize.
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What do you suppose those people that have trump
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Derangement syndrome will do
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If he is actually awarded the nobel prize?
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We'll need a new budget for mental health care,
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Probably.
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And probably cleaning up the mess when they
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When they lose the control,
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Their bodily control for a few moments after it.
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But the vast majority of folks, even those
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That don't like politically what trump is doing,
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I think can all come around
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The point that the world is a better place
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Thanks to his leadership, and would acknowledge that
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An award like the nobel peace prize is definitely earned
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When this peace plan is settled.
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Do you have any idea what's next for benjamin netanyahu?
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Given any clues?
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I think there
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Is a political question in israel elections.
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Those will probably be foremost on his mind,
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You know, after things kind of get settled.
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That's assuming that there isn't any any,
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Speed bumps in the next 3 or 4 days and the
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The arrival of the living hostages back into israel.
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That's the key milestone.
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I think once you get past that, things become a lot more easy
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Into a new and better future for the israelis
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And also for the palestinians after this war is over.
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But, politics is politics.
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It never sleeps, and it's always competitive.
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And netanyahu's going to deal with that.
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Well, i'm no expert in israeli politics, but from a distance,
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It seems like they're
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Every bit as polarized as we are here in america.
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You know, in the last two years with bibi in charge, they've
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Decimated hezbollah.
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They've taken iran off the global stage
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As a nuclear threat.
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I mean, clearly, with u.s.
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Help, hamas is being whittled down.
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The hostages looks like will be returned.
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That should make you a national hero.
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But there's still a strong segment of the israeli public
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That is very angered with his leadership.
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What do you think it would take for him to be recognized
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As someone who's contributed in a positive way?
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Yeah, i think politics, it's each each place is different.
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Even the united states, each community,
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Each state's different.
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What motivates people to vote? certain ways.
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I think, there's a tendency outside of israel for the media,
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And certainly with left leaning media
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To try to play up the dissent.
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And a lot of the dissent
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Was just reminding and agitating for release
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And to get a ceasefire, to get the hostages back.
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But when you look at the polls of the israelis,
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They were not entertaining a future that had hamas in it
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Or ending the fighting without dealing with hamas.
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So the war execution, sometimes there's criticisms
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Of it, of getting the hostages back.
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But i think israelis support that.
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They supported the prime minister,
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The prime minister's direction.
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But there are other there's financial scandals in the past,
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That might get brought back up soon as the fighting dies.
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Everyone will then focus back on to kitchen table type issues.
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It's just inevitable nature of democracies.
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And while the war record is, you know, commendable,
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It's not necessarily enough to get reelected.
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Look at winston churchill after world war two.
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Well, there was a great loss of life
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In gaza, and israel lost many soldiers as well.
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Everyone in israel serves in the military.
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So it's got to take some time for the country to heal.
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How do you see things going forward on the ground?
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There?
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Yeah, it's so there's there's actually
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A couple of fronts on this.
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I mean, there was the damage even in israel proper.
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From the many a missile attacks from iran,
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Hezbollah, the houthis, which still hasn't stopped.
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It's still episodically is going on.
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Maybe now will stop because hamas is
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Laying down their weapons.
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And of course, hamas
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Missile attacks and rocket attacks in israel.
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So there's that,
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There's the human toll, which you kind of alluded to as well.
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And again, i think israel is very used
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To living in a very dangerous neighborhood
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And having to fight
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For its survival and its history in its short history.
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I think they will be fine and they'll be moving on, in true
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Israeli fashion, very quickly to get to the next big challenge.
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Absolutely.
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Turkey seems to be trying to fill
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Some of the void that iran has created
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With what they have endured.
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Do you think turkey
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Is going to take a larger,
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Outfront role in the future of the middle east?
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I think it's no secret that erdogan, the current leader
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And, turkey does aspire to some sort of
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Greater turkish influence across the middle east,
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Almost reminiscent of the old ottoman empire,
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Even with its islamic trappings.
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So there is that, whether or not he is able to deliver on it,
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It's a different thing.
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Clearly, the turks are very concerned
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And very engaged in northern syria.
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I don't see that changing any time soon
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As they continue to worry about their own domestic
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Kurdish population.
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You know, it will take the
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Prince of peace to restore order to the middle east.
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Well, while we're celebrating this tremendous victory
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With the hostages, i want to be greedy for just a moment.
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Let's pivot a little different direction.
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If trump's team can make this
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Bring this about in the middle east,
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Do you have hope they're going to bring a resolution
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To the ukraine russia conflict in the near future?
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Yes. i think the conditions like we saw with hamas
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Being set for putin, where
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If he doesn't go to the negotiating table,
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There's going to be a heavy price to pay.
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And i think the weather is also
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Going to intervene at the end of this month.
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The rainy season kicks in
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And the fighting will naturally subside.
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It's a great time also for negotiations to start up.
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And again, there's new weapons heading to ukraine.
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Ukraine has new weapons of its own.
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There's a reason compelling putin
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To see an end to the war as well.
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That would be a remarkable conclusion to this year
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If we could see that conflict resolved as well.
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We would have to say god is moving in the earth.
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Prince edward, thank you for carving out some time
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For us on this very important and historic day.
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We very much appreciate your insight.
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Thank you for having me on your show.
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Well, i'll be back with signs of hope
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In just a moment.
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In just a moment.
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You know, as a matter of objective
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Fact, hamas is a group of murderous thugs.
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So they're arriving at a deal that would be honored.
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It's tenuous at best.
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But for the sake of those hostages,
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I pray that this deal holds together.
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You know, we recently had the two year
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Anniversary of the october 7th hamas attack on israel.
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And since that happened, hamas has been
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Dramatically reduced in their influence.
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Hezbollah was the terror proxy on the northern border
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Of israel.
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At that time, they had hundreds
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Of thousands of rockets, iranian and russian, made.
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Since then, hezbollah has been almost completely neutralized.
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At the time of the october 7th attack, iran was threatening
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Nuclear annihilation on a regular basis
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And working to develop the bomb as quickly as possible.
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Their nuclear capabilities have now been sidelined.
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There have been tremendous expressions of mercy
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That bring up the possibility of peace to the whole region.
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But it's come at a very high price.
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You know, as christians,
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We need an awareness to what's happening
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And recognize that israel does matter.
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I don't believe that you can understand the bible
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If you don't have some insight and understanding
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Into the role of israel and the jewish people.
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I think the most significant principle
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Is that the jewish people are a chosen people, chosen by god.
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I believe we have a debt to the jewish people.
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Without them, we would have no story.
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We would have no faith. we would have no prophets.
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We would have no scripture. we would have no law.
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We would have no messiah.
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Our heroes in the new testament,
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Almost without exception, are jewish.
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Well, it gives us some sense of the significance god attaches
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To the people in the nation of israel.
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There's just no one else
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Like the people of israel in history, in god's economy,
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And in god's relationship with adam and his descendants.
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So when we pray for the peace of jerusalem,
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We want to pray in alignment with scripture.
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They're not like all the other nations.
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If we'll do that, i promise there's reasons
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For hope in our future.
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We'll be right back with your emails.
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They are always a highlight for all of us.
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G sanchez wrote in with great respect.
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I was hoping to gain your thoughts on a particular matter
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That has been the subject of much public discussion,
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Given the highly unusual political climate
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And the unprecedented events we've witnessed in recent years.
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I've heard various discussions regarding the hypothetical
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Possibility of a current president potentially seeking,
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Or perhaps somehow attaining, a third term in office.
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I understand the established constitutional frameworks, but
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I would be immensely grateful for your unique insight.
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Perhaps from a historical, prophetic,
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Or even spiritual viewpoint.
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Well, i don't think a third term
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For president trump is probably the solution to our problems.
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I don't think it's legal, but beyond that,
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If he has pointed us in a direction
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Of biblical values of biblical worldview
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Now, it's up to those of us
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Who are citizens to hold those values.
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We have a representative form of government,
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And we need a change in the hearts of people
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Who live on main street of america
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To be reflected in washington, dc.
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I think god has used president trump
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To give us momentum in that direction.
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Now it's up to us to hold that line.
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Angela in colorado wrote how do we combat
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All the hypocrisy that exists now in so many
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Christian churches, especially amongst the congregants?
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Well, angela, i don't mean to be snarky,
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But hypocrisy is not new to the church.
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It takes the people in the churches choosing the truth.
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There have always been that struggle in our midst,
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And we follow it
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All the way through the hebrew bible
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And right into the new testament.
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The 21st century is no different.
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It takes courage on all of our parts to choose the truth
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And to live it out every day.
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Then 80 from tennessee wrote in
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Why are we hearing about the genocide
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Of christians in nigeria for freedom
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From proclaimed atheist bill marr?
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But no one else in the public arena or church is speaking up
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On the topic.
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Well, i'm glad you brought it up.
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There is a systematic genocide of christians being committed
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In nigeria.
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Thousands and thousands of people systematically murdered.
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And you're right.
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There's been too much silence.
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In fact, i think we're desperately trying
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Not to notice.
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Thank you for the reminder.
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At the very least, let's begin to pray.
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Well, i thank you for the time you spent with us today.
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I'm alan jackson, and you have a wonderful evening.
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