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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Debating Bill's Impact | Allen Jackson Now | July 1, 2025

Well.
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Good evening.
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I'm alan jackson, and welcome to nashville.
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How many of you find the mail you get at home?
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Buried within the latest credit card offers?
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They make it sound so tempting.
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Enjoy now, pay later.
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No interest for a year.
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Well, the well meaning men and women
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We send to washington get these sorts of offers too.
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But they're not from the banks.
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They're from the lobbyist.
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Spin now and pay it off later, or don't pay it off at all.
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One wants a new highway, the other wants a new firehouse.
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The others
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Trying to get state officials into new electric cars.
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The list. it's endless.
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And the bait is tempting.
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Give me what i want and i'll vote for you later.
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Well, state by state, one project at a time.
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It may not seem like a lot, but after decades of this, we're
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Now sitting on a national debt that's close to $37 trillion.
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But today, the line was drawn.
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The republican party
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Managed to put together a bill that both fires up the economy
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And begins to address what has been an out-of-control debt.
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The president named it the big beautiful bill,
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And it took the vote of vice president
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Jd vance to break the tie and approve the senate version.
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What was that?
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I want to bring in our guest for today.
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He's the executive vice president
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Of the national taxpayers union.
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Brandon arnold, it's
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Great to have you here on this historic day.
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Welcome to the show.
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Thanks so much for having.
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Well, let's start with the target,
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Because i believe that what the president
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And his party are doing is quite admirable.
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They want to keep taxes down, reduce spending,
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Take care of those in need, and keep our military strong.
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Goodness knows
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We've got several other countries
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Trying to
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Knock us out of first place, and not just economically
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In the most general terms.
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Do you find the overarching bill an effective start?
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I do, i think it's a good start, but i think there's
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A lot more work that needs to be done.
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And i think what you've laid out there is really important.
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And that is, first of all, starting with your goals.
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You shouldn't just cobble this thing together willy nilly.
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And i don't think congress did.
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I think you need to prioritize certain functions
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That you want america to succeed in.
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And that, of course, starts with the military.
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It starts.
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It continues with economic growth,
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And then it continues as well to fiscal responsibility.
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And i think the bill touches on all all of those.
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And of course, it's not perfect
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By any stretch of the imagination.
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We can get into those imperfections.
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But i think i do think they did a good job
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Of keeping their eye on the prize.
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In that is, you know, crafting good tax policy
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That's going to grow the economy as they did
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Back in 2017 and re re-up a lot of those provisions,
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Make them permanent,
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And then starting to chip away
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At the largesse of the federal government,
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The $37 trillion in debt that you allude to here
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That continues to grow.
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We have to take a lot of bites at this apple before
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We're going to be, be in a better spot,
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Be in a healthier spot, fiscally speaking.
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But i think this begins that process
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That's going to be a long slog.
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Well, i want to go through each of the big issues on the table.
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So let's start
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With the one that the opposition is constantly misrepresenting.
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It's medicaid.
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Listen to the sound bite.
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Of course, americans hate this bill.
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It steals their medicaid.
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It jacks up their premiums.
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It takes away their jobs and gives
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Trillions away to billionaires.
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If you actually believe what the democrats are pushing,
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You think that the republicans are trying to kill people
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By taking away their government health benefits.
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But that's not even close to the truth, is it?
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No, not at all.
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You know, the fact of the matter is,
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If you cut a nickel from medicaid,
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They would be screaming bloody murder.
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Murder, telling you that people
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Are going to be dying in the streets.
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What they're doing here in this republican package is reducing
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The growth of medicaid from 5% down to 3%.
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So the program is still growing.
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It's just growing at a slower rate.
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And on top of that, i think a lot of the provisions
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That we're talking about are pretty popular.
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When you start to break them down
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And explain them to the american people.
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For instance, do we think on a fundamental
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Level that illegal immigrants, people
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Who are in this country illegally
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Should be receiving government benefits like medicaid,
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Let alone food stamps and other government programs?
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The answer is no.
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I mean, that's an 8020 issue, and average americans get that.
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Also, if you're able to work but choose not to,
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If you were healthy and able to work,
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You should be participating in the workforce
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Or you should be applying for a job
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In your parents basement playing video games,
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Collecting checks from the federal government.
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That's not fair.
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And that's why
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This bill addresses that very problem
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That is unfortunately all too real.
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So you see those numbers of people
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Being kicked off of medicaid?
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A lot of them shouldn't be on medicaid in the first place.
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They should be in the private sector,
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Or they shouldn't even be in this country in the first place.
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Well, a big part of the doj's effort
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Was to cut the overall size of many of the departments,
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Including the state department, the department of education,
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And the voice of america.
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Well,
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Now that the supreme court has ruled in favor
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Of the president
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Versus the hundreds of liberal local judges,
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Do you think these cuts will continue?
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And should they continue?
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Yeah, they are they should absolutely continue.
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But i don't think those should
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Be the end of the process, because any cuts that are done
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By the executive branch can be undone by future
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Executive branches,
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Or even worse, as you allude to the court system.
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And even though the supreme
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Court put an end to, local or two to up to
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To to smaller courts striking down these cuts,
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The supreme court could still do so.
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So for these cuts to be locked in 100% constitutional
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And without question,
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Made permanent, i think the congress should act.
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And they've already taken some steps in that direction.
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You know, you talked about the rescissions package,
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Which was very much informed by the doj's process
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That was created
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By the office of management and budget,
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Which is an arm of the white house, sent
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To the house of representatives. they passed it.
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Now the senate needs to follow suit and pass it as well, which
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I think they will do so after the 4th of july recess.
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That is how we have to lock in those spending reductions
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And make sure that the work of doj's is made permanent.
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And we're starting to realize some of those savings.
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Well, one of the unfinished arguments is about the estimates
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That are done to try
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And to project how these bills will play out over time.
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The part that would seem to matter most is how much revenue
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The government can collect by helping businesses, large
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And small, pay lower taxes and face fewer regulations.
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And that's on top of letting
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Working people keep more of their income as well.
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The new tariffs seem to be bringing in a lot more money.
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So do any of the outside estimates account
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For other growth that will help address this federal debt?
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They do, but not probably as much as they ought
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To, particularly on the economic growth front.
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I think they underestimate some of the economic growth
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As the economy grows, as people make more money,
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They pay more taxes.
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And, you know, usually tax increases are a bad thing.
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But when you're making more money
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And paying more to the federal government,
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That's usually a pretty good thing.
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The tariff revenue.
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Yeah, there is certainly going to be
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Some tariff revenue in place, but it's very unpredictable.
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So that's really hard to build in the budgetary models
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Because of course, the trump administration is working
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To improve our trade deals around the globe,
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Hopefully striking better deals at lower tariffs.
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But if that does indeed materialize,
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If we were able to zero out tariffs,
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That will create economic growth,
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But we'll create less in the way of tariff revenue.
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So it's really hard
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Because there's
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So many moving pieces in that international trade space
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For the
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The bean counters in washington to know exactly how much money
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Is going to come to the federal treasury.
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So our best
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I think our best approach
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There is just a cut
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As much as we possibly can from the spending side of the ledger
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To make sure
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We have as minimal amount of red ink as we possibly can.
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Common sense.
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Brandon, please stay with us for another segment.
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Absolutely.
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And for those of you
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Watching, we'd love for you to use this time
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To write us your thoughts on the tax and budget debate.
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We need your feedback on these big issues,
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And it's easy to do when you go to aj now.com.
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I'll be right back.
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I'll be right back.
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We're back now with brandon arnold,
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The executive vice president of the national taxpayers union.
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Looking back at the president's first 100 days,
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I remember the panic that set in
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When he brought up the idea of tariffs.
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I think the initial messaging was a little unclear,
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But once people began to figure out
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What this was about helping them
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And leveling the global playing field, the noise slowed down.
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Last week, the white house said that our receipts for tariffs
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Have gone up 87% already this year,
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And they've brought in $76 billion.
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Seems like a pretty good start toward addressing the debt.
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And that's before other negotiations
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Have even concluded, including canada.
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Are you an optimist about the tariffs?
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Well, cautiously so.
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You know,
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I think the negotiating strategy ought to be to drive down
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The barriers to trade.
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Full stop.
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You know, i think we ought to have access
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To foreign markets across the globe
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Because we produce really, really good stuff here.
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We produce agricultural products,
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Manufactured goods,
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And we need to get into those markets to sell those products.
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The trade war, you know, if it's if it's done properly,
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We can see big successes.
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And we just did see a big success in canada.
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You mentioned,
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With the digital services tax,
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Having them eliminate that absolutely critical.
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That's a really, really positive thing.
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We see similar taxes have popped up, particularly in western
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Europe, italy, spain other countries.
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We need to flex our muscle,
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Make them get rid of those taxes
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As well as their trade barriers,
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Which are blocking out a lot of our agricultural goods
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And our automobiles and so forth.
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So if we can score victories there,
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I think that's going to be a net positive.
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But if we do end up with high tariffs across the board,
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Then that could really hurt our economic growth.
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Well an area where your organization has been pushing
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For change is the phasing out of the green energy tax credits.
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It seemed like a good way to kickstart
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Some of the original environmental experiments.
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But isn't it time that these green projects
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Stand on their own rather than just
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Getting subsidies with the taxes that we're paying?
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Oh, absolutely.
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Listen,
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I have no bone to pick with solar and wind and geothermal.
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I think all these technologies
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Have their place in certain applications,
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But we shouldn't be subsidizing the heck out of them.
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These are not new technologies.
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These are decades old
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Technologies that, of course, are evolving and improving,
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But they should stand on their own
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If people want to utilize them,
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If they want to put solar panels on their roof.
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God bless them. that is their right to do so.
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But we shouldn't be sending them
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A check from the federal government
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At any time, but particularly at a time
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When we're running a nearly a $37 trillion national debt,
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That just simply does not make sense.
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And these provisions need to be ripped out
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As quickly as they can from our u.s.
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Tax code and eliminate it.
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And i'm hoping that this tax
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Bill is larger than just a tax bill,
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Because one big, beautiful bill
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Does just that, because it's really critical
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To restoring fiscal balance
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And also just being neutral with regard
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To what types of energy sources
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We are utilizing and residential
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Well, one argument that i've never seen settled
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Is whether we can grow our way out of debt as president
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Reagan pushed forward during his time in office.
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You know, some senators are all for it.
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Listen to senator banks.
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It's the biggest tax cut
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In american history for working class families, for mechanics,
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For factory workers, teachers, beauticians,
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Working the working class men and women of this country
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Who just gave president trump a historic election victory.
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So what are your thoughts on this?
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Can we grow our way out of debt and.
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I don't think so.
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I think growth
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Is part of the solution, but it's not a solution in itself.
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We need also spending restraint
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If we don't start cutting spending.
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Guess what?
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The cake is baked when it comes to spending increases.
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We see medicaid, medicare, social security.
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Those programs are scheduled to go bankrupt
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Because they're structurally unsound.
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If we don't look at reforming those programs,
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As well as all of the other programs
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Where doj's doing a fantastic job of scouring all of these,
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The government entities finding that waste, fraud and abuse,
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If we don't combine those reductions
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In spending with the growth that comes from good pro-growth
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Tax policy that we're implementing,
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The senate obviously took a big step in that direction
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This afternoon.
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If we don't have all of those things happening simultaneously,
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I think we're looking at red ink as far as the eye can see.
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And that's really unfortunate.
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Well, one target you've suggested
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Putting some guardrails on are the no tax on tips,
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The no tax on overtime and the no tax on social security plans.
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Can you explain why guardrails will be needed?
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Yeah.
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And that makes me kind of unpopular.
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These are some
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Of the most popular, provisions in the one big beautiful bill.
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And i get that.
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And i get that we need to help working class america.
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But one of the frustrations that i have, first of all,
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Is you talk about
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Helping the server, the waitress, the bartender,
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Which i'm all about,
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But you're not necessarily helping the dishwasher here.
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Or the hostess who's also working at that restaurant,
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Working their tail off and struggling to make ends meet.
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So my my point is here is that we should be provided
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Or crossed aboard relief.
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And i think that we should do so in a way
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That doesn't complicate the tax code.
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And those guardrails, i think, are really important
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To make sure that people aren't gaming the system,
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Aren't re categories
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Using normal income as overtime income or tipped income.
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That's unfortunately going to fall to the irs, to police.
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And we all know the irs is
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One of the most incompetent and corrupt agencies in
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The entire federal government.
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So that's why i've proposed
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A solution that would would provide more across the board
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Relief to everyone that's working in an overtime job.
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Everyone that's working in a tipped job
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Provide that across the board relief.
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So you don't have people gaming the system.
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And we're not tasking the irs
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From preventing people from cheating on the tax code,
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Which i think, unfortunately, is going to be way too common
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Under the current policies that we're implementing here.
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Well, brandon, one last question.
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If you could add
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Something to this bill
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Before it reaches its final form,
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What would you slip into this big, beautiful bill?
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That's a tough question.
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Is i there's a lot of stuff that comes to mind.
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The first thing is a lower corporate rate.
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When you look at the bill that was passed in 2017.
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The reason why we saw so much economic growth,
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The reason why average workers were getting bonuses
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From the companies they worked for, were small businesses
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Were able to provide more to their customers
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And more to their, to their employees.
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I think what really with
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The corporate rate was the dropping that from 21,
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I'm sorry, from 35% down to 21%.
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That just stimulates so much economic growth.
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We're now at 21% that was made permanent.
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That's about global average.
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And if we want to,
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Not just compete with but really, outcompete
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China and europe and japan and all of our other
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International competitors,
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Having a lower corporate rate is a great way to do so.
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Well, branden arnold,
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We're just a few days now from our independence day. no
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Taxation without representation was the drive behind it.
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Happy 4th of july to you,
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And thank you for sharing your expertise
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With our viewers on this big day.
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In a moment, i'll have some thoughts of my own on the issue.
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Remember, prior to 1861, there was no federal income tax
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In this country. can you imagine that?
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I'll be right back.
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I'll be right back.
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You know, it's 4th of july week.
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We're celebrating our nation
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And the values that have brought so many good things to us.
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If those are to be extended,
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We're going to have to maintain some of those values.
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You know, one of them that has shaped our nation
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From the beginning until now was the idea.
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The puritans got some of those
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First european settlers that came to our shores.
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They were celebrated for a work ethic that was second to none.
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You may have you heard the phrase the puritanical work
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Ethic.
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That's a value derived from scripture.
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Unfortunately, it's kind of fallen into disrepute.
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Work is no longer celebrated.
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We talk more about a work life balance,
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And we don't want to get out of balance.
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We certainly don't want to work too much.
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Well, i would remind you that we're introduced
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To god in the opening pages of the bible.
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He's working, and he happened to work a six day week.
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Now, i'm not advocating for you to be a workaholic,
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But i think we have to
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Understand that our willingness to make an effort
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Is connected to the outcomes that shape our future.
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And as we learn that we have to teach our children
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And invite our grandchildren to it, those values,
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The high value of work and productivity, have helped
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Make our nation strong and bring god's blessings to us.
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We don't want to lose those values as we move forward.
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We'll do that.
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I assure you, there's more reasons for hope than despair.
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We'll be back with your emails in just a moment.
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We'll be back with your emails in just a moment.
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Thank you for taking
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The time to send us your emails, your thoughts and opinions.
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They really matter to us.
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The former mayor, jack lewis of haltom city, texas.
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So may god
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Continue your ministry here in north texas on a large church
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Marquee is the message lifestyle christianity.
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Well, i'm afraid that pretty well describes
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Many of our churches in america.
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We're preaching and practicing lifestyle christianity.
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We need to remember there are more reasons
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For hope than despair.
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Well, mayor, i agree with you.
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We need to practice more of a god style christianity.
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We didn't join a social club or a civic club.
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When we come to church.
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We come to become disciples of jesus christ, to yield
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Our lives to the authority of a living god
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That brings good things to our lives.
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But it's not always easy.
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It means a change of lifestyle.
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Then ron from mississippi wrote,
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You often comment on america's liberal legacy news media.
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Perhaps the most accurate description
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Of their so-called reporting came
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From the israeli ambassador to the united states.
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Yes. a leader who said in a recent interview,
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There are many journalists who don't report the news.
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They rather create a narrative than offer their commentary
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On the narrative. they create.
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I think his quote pretty much sums it up.
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The good news is there are emerging new forms of media.
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This program represents one of those.
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This would have been unimaginable
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Just a few short years ago.
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But today, there's a lot of voices
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And a lot of platforms that give you alternatives.
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It takes a bit more effort to find the truth,
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But it's available and it's growing.
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You can help us if you'll share the message of this program
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With your friends.
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Alicia emailed.
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I'm grateful for your daily show, alan jackson.
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Now, i love how you give your guests time to explore
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And inform us
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Of how ideology can infiltrate our brains, spirits, and hearts.
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Well, alicia, thank you for noticing.
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Our goal is to give our guests
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Two times to unpack their thoughts and ideas
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With more than a 15 or 20 second sound bite.
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I pray that is helpful to you.
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That is certainly our objective.
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And finally, fern in california wrote.
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Thank you for your inspiring ministry
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And for your program on current events, delivering the news
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And messages in god's truth and from his word.
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Well, fern, what you should know is i'm simply the clown
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They push out on stage.
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There are dozens of people
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Who work to make this program possible.
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Really smart people, talented people.
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Aware people
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That help to make this message available to you
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And others across our nation.
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Together, and with god's help, i believe we will see
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Truth celebrated in the public square again.
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I thank you for spending a few minutes with us
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This evening. if you miss an episode.
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You can always go to aj now. dot com.
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They're all archived there.
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I'm alan jackson and you have a wonderful evening.
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