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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: December 2, 2024 | Allen Jackson Now | December 2, 2024
- Good evening.
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- I'm alan jackson and welcome to nashville.
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- A year ago joe biden and kamala harris.
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- And the democratic leadership
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- Was going to ride the post-roe
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- Supreme court decision on abortion into the white house.
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- They were convinced
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- That the court's decision
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- In the dobbs case
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- Had pushed voters to the point
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- Where they would throw republicans out of office.
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- What a difference a year makes.
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- Our guest tonight has had his eye on this full time
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- Ever since then.
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- He's the chief legal officer and general counsel of americans
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- United for life.
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- Steve aden, welcome back to our show.
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- Thank you.
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- And it's always a pleasure.
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- Well, from all the post-election facts and figures,
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- It looks as though voters on both sides of the abortion
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- Debate figured out that the rhetoric in the public
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- Debate didn't match the reality in front of them.
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- Donald trump wasn't running on a total abortion ban,
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- As they had argued,
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- And he was running on what the supreme court
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- Had already decided that the laws
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- Had been turned back to the states.
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- How are the pro-life organizations
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- Able to convince voters
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- That trump's position was being misrepresented?
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- Well, he said it loud and clear to his credit.
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- It's a position that he has been firm on.
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- It's not the position that we, think
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- That a lot of people see it as, we think there are
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- There are, sub issues to it and different parts of it.
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- For example,
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- Let me start with the role of the federal government
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- When the president elect said there's no federal
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- Role for abortion.
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- What he means is that he's not going to sign
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- A ban out of congress.
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- But there's a lot the government does do
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- With respect to abortion, for example, the hyde amendment,
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- Which, keeps
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- Taxpayer dollars out of the pockets
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- Of abortionists and has been there for 50 years.
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- There's an important federal role
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- For the government to protect and defend the hyde amendment
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- Amendment, especially since the biden administration
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- Has been trying to recreate a federal right to abortion.
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- And many different agencies.
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- So when we hear the president elect say that, he is,
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- Not going all in for federal,
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- Action on abortion.
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- What we think he means is that, he's going
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- To defend the healthcare rights of conscience and federal law.
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- He's going to defend the hyde amendment.
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- He's going to keep
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- Taxpayer dollars out of the pockets
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- Of abortionists, both here and abroad.
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- And that's all very important.
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- And i think that's why,
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- You see, he's chosen, some very good picks,
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- For his cabinet members and for his medical,
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- Institutional staff.
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- We're looking forward to seeing what comes next.
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- Well, in terms of your efforts at americans united for life,
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- Tell us where you had success
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- On the ballot choices at the state level.
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- Well, the highlight, of course, was florida, which came in at
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- Just under what was needed to change
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- Florida's constitution to a pro-abortion constitution.
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- They would have needed 60% of voters voting for,
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- Abortion on demand, and they got somewhere around 58%.
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- That's a good sign.
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- They will be back, when they come back.
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- We need to be ready.
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- The key in florida is principally the hispanic,
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- Christian population and especially, the,
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- The fast growing, hispanic evangelicals.
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- We need to be ready when they come back.
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- And, we need to get the word out
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- That this is abortion on demand.
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- All, all the time,
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- Every day, with taxpayer money paying for it.
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- I hope and pray that if they come back,
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- They get something less than 58%.
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- Then they'll go away.
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- But we'll have to hit them at least a second time.
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- Unfortunate losses in arizona and missouri.
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- And, encouraging wins in south dakota, nebraska.
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- And as i said, florida.
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- So we continue to fight
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- In all these states that have a ballot initiative,
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- And not all of them do.
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- But every time they come up, we're there,
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- Trying to marshal people, trying to get them to the polls,
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- Trying to get understand that these, pro-abortion initiatives
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- Really mean abortion on demand, and they have to be stopped.
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- Well, there are battles ahead because seven
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- Of the ten pro abortion measures on state ballots passed.
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- And now the groups that back them are gearing up to fight
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- With the pro-life teams that want to keep
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- The existing abortion bans in place.
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- Listen to what
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- New york's democratic governor is saying about her agenda.
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- I can also have my counsel who's
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- Been working on this intensely, explain that that
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- These are rights are now enshrined in the constitution,
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- But i'm also. and i'll let them answer.
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- But i'm also concerned about federal regulatory action,
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- Like donald trump putting someone who's,
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- Anti reproductive freedom in the department of health
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- And human services or those agencies
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- That would determine whether or not, medication
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- Assisted abortion is legal
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- Can you tell us how you're prepa
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- Well, first of all, we make it loud and clear
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- That there is no constitutional right to abortion
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- In the us constitution.
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- And that's what the dobbs case said.
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- It reversed roe versus wade and 50 years
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- Of finding a federal right in the constitution to abortion.
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- And now it depends on the states,
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- As president elect trump said,
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- Unfortunately, in new york, they just passed that out and
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- They just passed the about ballot initiative in new york.
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- And, kathy hochul is probably referring
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- To some state created in new york, right to abortion.
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- But there are currently 14 states that protect life
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- Almost to conception.
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- Another four states protect life at some gestational age,
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- And those, protections are enforceable.
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- Unlike before dobbs, when they weren't enforceable
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- Because of the road case.
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- So we've got
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- A lot of good ground to build on, and we're moving forward.
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- The important thing is we have to marshal
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- A pro-life army
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- In every state
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- Where these ballot initiatives come up,
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- And in every other state in the country.
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- And that's why americans united for life is focused
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- Front and center
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- On getting people out to the polls, getting them to,
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- Their pregnancy centers to support women, in crisis,
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- Getting them, in front of abortion centers
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- So that women who go seeking abortion, not knowing
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- That they have options here from our side,
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- And our minister to, those are the keys.
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- So the, the way that we win, that's how we've been winning,
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- For 50 years.
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- That's how row is overturned,
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- Because we have a culture of life in the grassroots.
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- Most folks don't like abortion.
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- They, they're opposed to it.
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- And you saw that with, mr.
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- Trump's victory.
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- You know, even the new york times
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- Sounded a retreat shortly after the election and said,
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- Look, the abortion issue isn't the
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- What isn't what we thought it should be at the polls,
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- And we're going to have to find another one.
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- That's a huge statement for the new york times,
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- But it's a recognition
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- That, folks are not voting based on the abortion issue.
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- And that's a very good thing for the pro-life movement.
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- Amen.
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- Well, you alluded to it, but i've always felt it's
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- Unfortunate that more people aren't
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- Aware of all the great options
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- That exist other than an abortion.
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- There are so many successful
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- Parenting centers, adoption agencies
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- There, church groups, benefactors
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- Who step up to help avoid abortions.
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- Why is it there more discussion or advertising
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- Or success just in general on that end of this issue?
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- Well, alan, word of mouth gets out
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- And that's the main thing, right?
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- Because there are 5 to 1 pro-life pregnancy centers
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- To every abortion center.
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- And those pro-life centers are staffed
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- By loving volunteers,
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- Whereas of course, the planned parenthood's are staffed
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- By, career people who think abortion is a right
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- And don't really care about women
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- Or about the consequences of abortion.
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- So we are getting our message out.
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- And that's clear in that respect, that,
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- The pregnancy center movement is strong and growing.
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- And, that includes in states that have, pro abortion laws,
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- Too, as much as, leaders like kathy hochul in new york,
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- Want to harass and block pregnancy centers.
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- Our side has met that threat,
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- With lawyers, in court, and we're winning everywhere.
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- And so,
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- The future is right, for the right to life.
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- And,
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- We believe that going forward, god's people will be marshaled.
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- They will come together as they did in florida,
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- As they did in south dakota, as they did in nebraska.
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- And they'll push back on these, and as the abortion issue dies
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- Down, as the new york times said, it is, even those states
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- Like arizona and missouri, that regrettably
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- Made the wrong choice will reconsider it.
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- And, they also have a court fight ahead.
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- Look, it didn't solve things
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- For the entire united states when roe versus wade,
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- Came on the books in 1973, it was a 50 year battle
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- To get it off the books
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- And to restore the right to protect life.
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- And that's what states like arizona and missouri have ahead.
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- All they've done is bought, battle in court
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- As long as it takes a battle at the ballot box,
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- A battle for hearts and minds in those states.
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- And folks in those states aren't giving up.
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- We can't give up for the babies.
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- And we won't.
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- Amen.
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- Well, stay with us.
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- And in a moment, we'll be back with more from steve.
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- Aiden, the chief legal officer of americans united for life.
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- Aiden, the chief legal officer of americans united for life.
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- We're back now with steve.
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- Aiden, the general counsel of americans united for life.
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- You know, steve, when this abortion discussion begins,
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- It's been common for a long season
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- Now, for decades now, that it begins with legal perspectives.
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- But it seems to me that that approach misses
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- The fundamental issue.
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- This is really a worldview discussion that is rooted
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- In the sanctity of human life, and how we understand that
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- If we get that piece right, the legal discussion
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- Gets really simple.
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- In my understanding that correctly.
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- Oh, absolutely.
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- Ireland depends on whether you believe in know
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- That were created in the image of a loving heavenly father.
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- Or if you think that,
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- Were the product of evolutionary change over time
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- And that life is inherently meaningless.
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- That's the great divide.
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- And, persons of faith like us understand that.
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- I, am proud to acknowledge my creator and my savior.
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- And that's why i do what i do.
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- And i know that's why you do what you do to.
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- You know, it's not as complicated as we've made it.
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- I think the root of this
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- Is it acceptable to in the life of a child?
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- I mean, that's what we're really grappling with.
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- And if we follow the science, which seems to be the position
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- That is championed, it gets really clear right now.
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- There's all sorts of very talented
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- Physicians across our nation that do surgical procedures
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- On babies prior to their delivery.
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- So it's clear that it's not just a mass
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- Of protoplasm or a clump of cells.
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- It's a living human being.
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- How do we help get that message more broadly
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- Into the general public?
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- You proclaim it from the house, tops, allen.
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- Loud and clear until the other side gets the message.
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- Like even the supreme court has come around to this slowly.
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- Not not fast enough, but they've recognized,
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- For example, in the case in 2007, the the,
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- Carhart case, they said it seems self-evident
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- That women come to regret their abortion.
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- They regret that they paid
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- A doctor to dismember the baby in their womb, limb from limb.
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- We have to speak the truth and say what abortion really is
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- And does.
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- And so when i'm interviewed on, media
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- Outlets like new york times or washington post,
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- I always make a point of saying what abortion really is
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- And does, you are either chemically burning
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- An embryo or a fetus to death,
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- Or you are dismembering a baby limb from limb.
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- And the more we do that, and say it with love and compassion.
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- But the truth has to come with love and compassion.
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- I think the more ground that we gain,
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- Because you're right, half the country
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- That would prefer to think abortion has some kind of
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- Constitutional right are forgetting,
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- The other human being in this equation, the baby.
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- Not just the mothers.
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- So when you support, as it turns out, mothers
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- And families who are making these difficult decisions,
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- They end up deciding to keep the baby.
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- More often than not, because a woman only needs,
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- In her mind, an abortion
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- If she feels like she has no choice.
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- It's trumpeted as, the ultimate choice.
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- But really, it's when a woman feels like she has no choice.
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- And when you bring home to her the choices that she has
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- And the support
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- That she has from many people, including those in the church,
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- That, you know, they have financial support,
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- They have, support for the baby.
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- They have, emotional and moral support.
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- Then usually, she'll end up deciding for life.
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- And that's why the pregnancy care center
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- Is so very important, because they're making the case
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- One by one to women who need that.
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- The choice for life is more powerful and more empowering
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- Than the choice for death.
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- Well, you know, one of my privileges as a pastor is
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- I get to visit the hospitals when there's new arrivals.
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- And so i've gotten to see lots
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- Of parents and grandparents holding those new babies.
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- And it's impossible to me to see a newborn child
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- And not believe in almighty god.
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- And to look at that child and think of it
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- Simply is a choice that can be discarded
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- Is a position that we just can't stand it.
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- It darkens our hearts too deeply to tolerate that.
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- So i am very grateful for the work you're doing.
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- Don't grow weary.
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- Oh, we won't believe me.
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- We won't.
- 00:14:34.398 --> 00:14:35.499
- You know, i think we've got to hold up something else.
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- The best practice on
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- This is sexual activity in the context of marriage.
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- If families will pick that up,
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- Wouldn't that help all of us in this debate?
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- I hope and pray
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- We head in the right direction on that many other issues.
- 00:14:47.244 --> 00:14:49.714
- Helen, the election has given me a lot of encouragement
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- More because i see that people are rejecting
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- The radical leftist agenda,
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- Which is really a product, of course, of the
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- Sexual revolution of the 60s.
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- And they're coming to realize that
- 00:15:03.394 --> 00:15:05.863
- Strong support of families are the way to go.
- 00:15:05.863 --> 00:15:09.066
- And, the more that we can build up
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- The family, encourage strength and support it,
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- The more we're going to win this fight.
- 00:15:15.439 --> 00:15:18.576
- Well, i pray you have a season of effectiveness
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- In impacting the hearts and souls and minds of americans.
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- And i pray the church wakes up with the courage
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- To tell the truth
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- To this generation in ways we haven't heard yet.
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- Steve aden, god bless you for all the work you've done
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- Already. we're here to help.
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- It's my privilege.
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- Thank you so much.
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- Well, in a moment i'll have some thoughts on
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- How we can go forward from here.
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- How we can go forward from here.
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- You know, our guest today talked about abortion
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- And his efforts on behalf of our children.
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- That's a part of a larger conversation.
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- The attack that's taking place
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- In our children across our nation.
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- It's not just unfortunate.
- 00:16:00.685 --> 00:16:02.187
- It's abhorrent.
- 00:16:02.187 --> 00:16:03.755
- It's almost impossible to believe what's happening.
- 00:16:03.755 --> 00:16:07.759
- There's layers to this.
- 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:09.027
- You can find it almost anyplace you look in our public school
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- Systems, in the libraries, for our young children.
- 00:16:12.197 --> 00:16:14.933
- They have books that are completely age inappropriate.
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- The material in them is not just pornography.
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- It gets obscene.
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- It's a grooming of our children, and we're having difficulty
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- In our communities.
- 00:16:25.510 --> 00:16:26.244
- Even the community where i live,
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- Finding the moral courage to say that's inappropriate.
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- It's not the banning of books.
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- It's about age appropriate learning.
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- We don't sell cigarets
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- To our elementary children, or we don't put
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- We don't put beer in their lunchroom.
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- They shouldn't be looking at illicit material
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- And being groomed for activity outside the purview
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- Of their parents. it's just wrong.
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- And we should have the moral courage to say so.
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- We have medical
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- Care systems that have imagined that our children are profit.
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- Center for gender reassignment activities.
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- Folks, if we create confusion in our children
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- About something as fundamental is their biological sex,
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- We are violating our responsibilities as adults
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- In the care and training
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- And oversight of the children as they grow in mature.
- 00:17:08.820 --> 00:17:11.990
- You know,
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- For all of the language we have around children
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- And the value we attach to them and and all the energy
- 00:17:14.726 --> 00:17:17.362
- That's invested, the truth is the children
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- In our homes, on our streets, in our schools are less safe
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- And mean that long ago when our kids
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- Could walk to school or they could play outside
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- Without immediate parent supervision and without fear.
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- We've lost those days, and it's going to
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- Take the courage to acknowledge that
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- And begin to bring a biblical worldview
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- Back into our homes, our families,
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- Our attitudes towards children.
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- We'll all be safe for our future will be better
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- If we'll do that.
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- I can promise you
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- There will be more reasons for hope than despair.
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- We'll be back with your emails in just a moment.
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- We'll be back with your emails in just a moment.
- 00:17:58.002 --> 00:17:59.505
- Thank you for taking the time to share your emails with us.
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- Your thoughts and perspectives.
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- They're valuable as we plan the shows ahead.
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- Alexandria, from mississippi writes
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- I'm a cna for miss dorothy and i learned of you through her.
- 00:18:10.883 --> 00:18:14.187
- Whenever i'm on shift with her and your programs on tv.
- 00:18:14.187 --> 00:18:17.490
- I know that it's not the time
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- To have any conversations or any inner
- 00:18:18.758 --> 00:18:20.626
- Interruptions from his day.
- 00:18:20.626 --> 00:18:22.528
- She enjoys your messages and how you deliver them.
- 00:18:22.528 --> 00:18:25.298
- At 88 years old with cerebral palsy herself,
- 00:18:25.298 --> 00:18:27.900
- She has brought joy to so many.
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- As a retired teacher of 35 years to special needs students.
- 00:18:29.435 --> 00:18:34.040
- I'm sure she would love a shout out to make her day
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- Just a little bit happier and brighter.
- 00:18:36.342 --> 00:18:38.945
- Well, miss dorothy, happy birthday and more than that.
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- Bless you.
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- Thank you for serving the children
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- For whom an expression of love and kindness.
- 00:18:45.218 --> 00:18:47.753
- I'm quite certain, changed their futures.
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- Your your sacrifices have been a strength
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- In those children's lives.
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- To their families and to our nation. god bless you.
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- Stephanie from missouri wrote,
- 00:18:59.198 --> 00:19:01.167
- My friend's daughter in saint louis was at a concert earlier
- 00:19:01.167 --> 00:19:03.669
- This year where the artist gave
- 00:19:03.669 --> 00:19:05.104
- Emergency contraceptive pills to the guest.
- 00:19:05.104 --> 00:19:08.407
- Her daughter wasn't old enough
- 00:19:08.407 --> 00:19:09.375
- To be making that kind of a choice
- 00:19:09.375 --> 00:19:10.810
- Or the action required to even need that.
- 00:19:10.810 --> 00:19:13.579
- The only good thing from that action is the great conversation
- 00:19:13.579 --> 00:19:16.249
- They got to have about their beliefs around pro-life.
- 00:19:16.249 --> 00:19:20.119
- You know,
- 00:19:20.419 --> 00:19:20.920
- I think it's time
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- For us to choose a whole new generation of heroes.
- 00:19:22.021 --> 00:19:24.490
- I've decided to start to celebrate the people
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- Who make choices that bring a biblical worldview forward,
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- And stop giving my time
- 00:19:30.696 --> 00:19:32.265
- And attention, energy, and my ticket prices
- 00:19:32.265 --> 00:19:35.468
- To people who encourage ungodliness and immorality.
- 00:19:35.468 --> 00:19:38.371
- They're not the heroes that i want to emulate.
- 00:19:38.371 --> 00:19:40.973
- I want to try to find people
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- That will encourage me to do the right thing.
- 00:19:42.208 --> 00:19:44.543
- Lord knows i can create enough momentum
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- On my own, going in the wrong direction.
- 00:19:46.045 --> 00:19:48.247
- Well, gina from florida says thank you
- 00:19:49.048 --> 00:19:50.616
- For the informative programing.
- 00:19:50.616 --> 00:19:52.084
- Your guest are very interesting and i certainly learned a lot.
- 00:19:52.084 --> 00:19:55.388
- I begin my evenings with huckabee,
- 00:19:55.388 --> 00:19:57.189
- Alan jackson now, and stackelberg,
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- So my evenings are packed with blessings. wow.
- 00:19:59.659 --> 00:20:02.762
- It's like the three musketeers on tbn.
- 00:20:02.762 --> 00:20:05.798
- It's an important time to find the truth.
- 00:20:05.798 --> 00:20:08.768
- Don't spend hours every day watching an endless news loop.
- 00:20:08.768 --> 00:20:12.672
- A few minutes every day with the truth will prepare you
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- For the responses
- 00:20:15.908 --> 00:20:16.976
- You need to make in a very rapidly changing world.
- 00:20:16.976 --> 00:20:20.246
- And as long as we anchor that in a biblical worldview,
- 00:20:20.246 --> 00:20:23.049
- I believe we'll be prepared for what god has for us next.
- 00:20:23.049 --> 00:20:26.585
- A lot of fear in the world.
- 00:20:26.585 --> 00:20:28.287
- A lot of reasons that people think we should be intimidated.
- 00:20:28.287 --> 00:20:31.390
- I'm quite confident.
- 00:20:31.390 --> 00:20:32.391
- The one that who called us out of darkness
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- Into the kingdom of his son is watching over our future.
- 00:20:34.593 --> 00:20:37.630
- And if we will honor him with our lives,
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- We can trust him for good things ahead.
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- Thanks for your comments.
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