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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Deep Fakes | Allen Jackson Now | September 23, 2025
- Good evening, and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- You don't have to look far to see the further away we drift
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- From the truth of scripture, the easier it is to be deceived.
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- It makes me think of bank tellers
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- When they're trained to recognize
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- What's an actual dollar bill and what's a fake.
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- They don't spend time examining counterfeit money.
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- They study the real dollar
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- So they can recognize what it looks like.
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- Then it's easy to spot what's fake.
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- When we spend our time focusing on god's word and his truth,
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- It's much easier to notice when something is off.
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- Well, it's the same thing when it comes to technology.
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- There's ai and there are deep fakes.
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- There are gaming sites that pop up, pop up out of nowhere,
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- Many of them looking for traffic and the money
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- That comes with that.
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- And they're launched with no sense of social responsibility
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- As they capture our kids for hours at a time.
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- So tonight, we brought in a guest who's an expert
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- On this rising digital world and how to face it safely.
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- He was a top executive at the new york stock exchange
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- When the index fell, a record 22% in 1987.
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- People were panicking.
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- Rich dawns on him.
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- Welcome to our show.
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- Thank you for having me.
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- I'm very pleased to be with you today.
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- There's a lot to discuss.
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- The tiktok deal,
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- The good and the bad of ai,
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- The growing number of what are called deep fakes.
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- Let me. let's start with the tiktok deal.
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- It's been a long time in the making, but the u.s.
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- Investors have the majority share
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- Now, and china has a minority stake.
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- Listen to the president's reaction
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- After he concluded the deal with china's leader.
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- I had a great call with president xi
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- And as you know, he approved the tiktok deal
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- And we're in the process.
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- We have some great investors, big as some of the biggest,
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- In the world,
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- American investors, great people.
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- And we look forward to getting that deal closed.
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- So i'm curious, can we now stop worrying about china
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- Trying to control the minds of our children, that
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- Now that the americans control the algorithm.
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- A little bit?
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- I think there's a really good first step forward, i think.
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- But we always, always have to be
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- Very conscious of what china is trying to do to our children.
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- And our nation.
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- They have not been,
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- A good partner for many, many years.
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- And, well, i think this is a great step
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- Forward for the president, who have american control
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- Of the technology and the algorithm and the data.
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- There's still much more to do.
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- Well, you came from the business world originally, and tiktok
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- Has been vital to helping grow businesses, big and small.
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- Do you expect this new tiktok ownership
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- To provide the tools for better u.s.
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- Business growth?
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- I really do think so.
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- Tiktok is a terrific
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- Tool, particularly, attracting younger audiences.
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- The president has said several times
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- It helped him with the youth vote across america.
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- And i think with americans now
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- On the board and americans control the technology,
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- I think this can grow into a vital force
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- Like some of the other platforms that we're very familiar with,
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- Like facebook and instagram and linkedin and others.
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- But let's move to the deepfakes.
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- Start by telling us what a deepfake is
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- And how we can recognize one.
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- Well, a deepfake is a fake, and it comes in three versions.
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- It comes in audio,
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- It comes in video, and it comes in photographs.
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- This kind of started out a few years ago when it was,
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- A picture of the pope in a puffy jacket that was a, a
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- Photographic deepfake.
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- But just a few weeks ago, you may recall that susie
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- Wiles, the president's chief of staff,
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- Had an audio deepfake where she was caught supposedly
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- Calling, different executives and different senators.
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- And it wasn't her voice.
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- And a video deepfake is probably the most devastating,
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- Where it's an actual video of what you think.
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- Is somebody,
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- Saying something, requesting something, doing something.
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- This could have dramatic effects on financial markets.
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- It can have dramatic effects upon reputation.
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- It can have dramatic effects upon the company's morale.
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- If the ceo or cfo or director
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- Is seen, and what is considered a compromising position.
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- These things happen very quickly today.
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- They're driven by a.i..
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- They have been a matter of minutes, not hours and days.
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- And it's you have to really be trained to spot them.
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- And and to see what's wrong and how you can address it
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- Very, very quickly.
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- Well, should we be concerned
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- That deepfakes can try to steal my money
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- Or be a problem for me or my family?
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- Well, yeah, i think there.
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- For individuals, deepfakes are important,
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- But i think some of the more,
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- Obvious things
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- That we see coming across our email, for example,
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- We should not be
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- Clicking on things when we don't know the sender
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- Or when the sender is coming from a suspicious,
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- Url or an account.
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- So we have to be mindful of our digital home today.
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- We all live in a house or an apartment,
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- And we do the things that are necessary to protect that.
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- We have a burglar alarm.
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- We have locks in our doors and windows.
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- We have a dog who we may have a, a technical dog
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- At the door that barks when someone approaches it.
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- We may have leave lights on, from time to time to go
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- On and off.
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- We may even tell a neighbor or the local police
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- When we're traveling.
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- Those are all the things we do to protect our home.
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- We need to do things today to protect our digital home.
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- We should have our passwords.
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- And i believe
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- My personal view is you should have
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- A different password for every, every, platform.
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- And i know that's very hard for some people.
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- I keep a book, of all my passwords for my company
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- And for myself.
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- I do not keep passwords on my computer.
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- That's the most silly thing to do.
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- So i know passwords needs to change, particularly for banks
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- And financial institutions, about every six months.
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- Some of the less obvious things are you have a password
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- On your, entranceway for your wi-fi,
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- Regardless of what company you use, that password
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- Needs to be changed from time to time.
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- Where possible, you
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- Should put two passwords there because that protects your home,
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- Your digital home from people coming in from the outside.
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- I think that's such an important point.
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- I want to take just a second with that.
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- You know,
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- Historically, i'm more familiar
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- With having digital security
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- In the workplace, you know, with firewalls
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- And all the things that happen there.
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- But i hear you saying it
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- Is of paramount importance that now we take the time
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- And effort to do digital security
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- In our private lives, in our homes.
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- You know, there's another dimension of this, too,
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- If i may.
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- We just had a situation a few months ago
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- Where a major securities firm came to us because
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- A ceo was being attacked.
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- They knew where he was traveling and they knew where he was.
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- His new car with his license plate number and his new home
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- In the hamptons.
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- And the security firm couldn't figure out
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- Where all this information was coming from.
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- So the head of the firm who i know called me.
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- He said, rich, we're baffled by this.
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- Could you have your team look at it?
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- And we did.
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- And we studied it for a couple of days.
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- And what we found was that all the information
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- Was coming from his wife and his teenage daughters
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- On the internet, on facebook, on twitter, on instagram,
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- Their new house, their new car, where they were
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- Heading on vacation,
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- Which created enormous security risk for him and his family.
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- So it's not only the numbers that we have to be
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- Careful about,
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- But it's what we post on our someone very serious
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- And we don't take them seriously enough.
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- Various social media platforms.
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- So it's going to take a heightened consciousness
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- Of everybody in our orbits for us to stay safe.
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- That's correct.
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- Well, if we happen to come across
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- A deepfake or something that we think is,
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- What do we do with that?
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- Well, first of all, they're not hard to fake.
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- Not hard to, identify, but they're getting harder
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- To identify.
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- You'll see a mouth, not necessarily, on a video
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- Matching the words.
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- You may see a background which is off.
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- You may see a face movement, which is off.
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- Most people will not and come
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- And encounter deep fakes in the next year.
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- But most corporations, well, most business organizations
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- Will.
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- And i think this is one of the biggest threats
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- Facing business organizations in the coming year
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- That most of them are not aware of.
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- It is a legal issue.
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- It is an i.t issue.
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- But these things happen in minutes and hours,
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- Not days and weeks and months.
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- So i.t and legal can address them.
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- So defection are the biggest problem
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- Yet for people individuals.
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- But they are an enormous problem
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- Coming at business organizations in the next 12 months.
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- Rich, can you stay with us for another segment?
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- Absolutely. good.
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- Thank you.
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- I'd like to discuss
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- The potential and dangers of ai when we come back.
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- And if those of you watching would like to jump in
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- With your thoughts on the discussion,
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- I'll be right back.
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- We're back now with rich zeno,
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- The author of command the conversation how to engage,
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- Influence, and inspire people in these days of ai.
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- Well, i saw some disturbing and yet predictable online
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- Postings in the wake of the shooting of charlie kirk,
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- A simulator of assassinations
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- That showed up on the children's gaming side, roblox.
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- The company pulled it down when parents began to complain.
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- But this is what our children are being fed every day.
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- Are we solely dependent on the companies to police these sites?
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- Well, first of all, that was disgusting
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- At what happened, as well as some of the other commentary
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- That we've seen on the internet these past days.
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- But yeah, we are,
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- We really have to have a set of ethics
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- That and a set of standards, that, that companies follow.
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- Unfortunately, the bigger companies
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- Try to follow these things.
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- The smaller companies are just trying to make a fast buck.
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- And i think
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- As anything with the internet or on screen or online,
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- We have to be very mindful of what our children
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- Are doing at all time and what content they're seeing.
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- That doesn't change in a crisis, or in normal times.
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- We have to be very mindful of that.
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- And when these things do happen, we have to be loud
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- And vigorous
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- Against these companies and have them,
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- Change their direction and pull these things down.
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- Do you have some examples of where
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- Ai is making life better for us,
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- Or easier for those of us who aren't so tech savvy?
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- Well, there's there's a number of examples of better and worse,
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- Some of the better examples.
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- Clearly, in the health care area,
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- We're going to see surgeries more active.
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- We're going to see our various scans
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- And x-rays read in a much more proficient way.
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- We're going to see our records and data,
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- Much, much more effective in our doctor's office
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- And letting them interface with hospitals and many,
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- Many more things in health care.
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- In manufacturing,
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- We're seeing lowering the cost of manufacturing
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- And more accurate manufacturing, better use of tools.
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- In our personal life,
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- We're going to see better use of data,
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- Particularly in the financial arena.
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- We're going to see financial analysts using data
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- And using market data and financial data to better
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- Analyze companies and provide that analysis
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- To institutions and individuals who invest in the market.
- 00:11:27.484 --> 00:11:31.388
- Well,
- 00:11:31.622 --> 00:11:32.689
- They say that i is going to replace working people,
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- But i wonder if i will
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- Eventually create new jobs, especially for those
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- Who know how to integrate it into their work.
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- What do you think?
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- I think you're right on both counts, alan.
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- There's no question that ai is a disruptor
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- And it is going to disrupt a lot of jobs.
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- So if you think your job is going to be disrupted,
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- What should you do?
- 00:11:52.810 --> 00:11:53.777
- And what you should do
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- Is look to it to an area where you can become an expert in ai
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- And where there's a need for ai.
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- Analysis and ai.
- 00:12:01.752 --> 00:12:03.320
- People to look at all sorts of different things.
- 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.589
- As i just said,
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- In some of those industries as well as other industries.
- 00:12:06.790 --> 00:12:09.893
- But our lives, our jobs,
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- Our personal lives, our workplace, our families,
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- All of us
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- Are going to be
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- Dramatically affected with ai in the next couple of years,
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- Much more than we can even imagine right now.
- 00:12:21.572 --> 00:12:24.474
- Well, you came out of the
- 00:12:25.042 --> 00:12:26.310
- Financial world as an executive at the new york stock exchange.
- 00:12:26.310 --> 00:12:30.047
- Where are the markets heading as president trump puts
- 00:12:30.047 --> 00:12:32.683
- More of his imprint on all sorts of financial issues?
- 00:12:32.683 --> 00:12:35.953
- Well, there's usually three things i don't comment on.
- 00:12:35.953 --> 00:12:39.957
- The best italian restaurant in new york, whether the yankees
- 00:12:39.957 --> 00:12:43.727
- Will be in the series or where the markets might or not go.
- 00:12:43.727 --> 00:12:46.964
- However, in saying that, let me say the following.
- 00:12:46.964 --> 00:12:50.400
- Never sell america short.
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- If you go back over the last 50 years, 25 years, ten years,
- 00:12:52.603 --> 00:12:56.807
- And you see the disruptions we've had in the markets
- 00:12:56.807 --> 00:12:59.509
- From the crash of 87 to the tech bubble
- 00:12:59.509 --> 00:13:02.212
- To what we saw at the beginning of this year.
- 00:13:02.212 --> 00:13:04.314
- Markets have always gone up.
- 00:13:04.314 --> 00:13:06.383
- So if you're a long term investor
- 00:13:06.383 --> 00:13:08.685
- And you're seeking professional advisors, you should.
- 00:13:08.685 --> 00:13:11.655
- I think you'll do very well,
- 00:13:11.655 --> 00:13:13.457
- Particularly as a young person right now.
- 00:13:13.457 --> 00:13:15.726
- I think you should invest in u.s.
- 00:13:15.726 --> 00:13:17.327
- Markets because they will be higher
- 00:13:17.327 --> 00:13:19.229
- And bolder than they have ever been when you reach my age.
- 00:13:19.229 --> 00:13:23.166
- But, you know, i'm in tennessee.
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- I don't know much about italian
- 00:13:24.835 --> 00:13:26.103
- Restaurants in new york and the yankees.
- 00:13:26.103 --> 00:13:28.038
- I can read in the papers, but the giants are. oh and three.
- 00:13:28.038 --> 00:13:30.974
- Are you holding out any hope there? no.
- 00:13:30.974 --> 00:13:34.344
- Oh, they're doing much better.
- 00:13:34.945 --> 00:13:36.947
- But, but, you know, i'm more of a yankees fan, so,
- 00:13:36.947 --> 00:13:40.684
- I'll stick with that.
- 00:13:41.184 --> 00:13:42.686
- Well, what.
- 00:13:42.686 --> 00:13:43.887
- What? holding out hope they're going to be in this series.
- 00:13:43.887 --> 00:13:45.255
- No, i've got time. i think, for one quick question.
- 00:13:45.255 --> 00:13:48.191
- The debt, that $37 trillion that's sitting there,
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- And i know that only represents a real portion of it.
- 00:13:51.762 --> 00:13:54.998
- How urgent is that?
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- And if you got any
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- Ideas on what they can do to help us with that.
- 00:13:57.334 --> 00:14:00.737
- Well, this is a huge problem for america.
- 00:14:00.737 --> 00:14:03.707
- It's not a
- 00:14:03.707 --> 00:14:05.375
- It's not a problem that's going to
- 00:14:05.375 --> 00:14:06.543
- Bring america down right now, but it has to be addressed,
- 00:14:06.543 --> 00:14:10.347
- In many different ways.
- 00:14:10.847 --> 00:14:12.716
- I think some of the tariffs that we're getting into,
- 00:14:12.716 --> 00:14:15.652
- The payments on the tariffs,
- 00:14:15.652 --> 00:14:17.187
- Some of that should go and get against the debt.
- 00:14:17.187 --> 00:14:20.157
- Just spending has to come down dramatically.
- 00:14:20.157 --> 00:14:23.026
- I know there's going to be a lot of yelling
- 00:14:23.026 --> 00:14:24.294
- And screaming about that, but you can't you know,
- 00:14:24.294 --> 00:14:27.564
- We all as people have a checkbook.
- 00:14:27.564 --> 00:14:30.067
- And when there's no money
- 00:14:30.067 --> 00:14:31.268
- In the checkbook, you can't write a check.
- 00:14:31.268 --> 00:14:33.203
- Unfortunately, the government has never function that way.
- 00:14:33.203 --> 00:14:36.173
- They just print more money.
- 00:14:36.173 --> 00:14:38.041
- And when they print more money, it creates inflation.
- 00:14:38.041 --> 00:14:40.644
- Chaos creates disruption through everything that we do.
- 00:14:40.644 --> 00:14:43.447
- So the debt is important.
- 00:14:43.447 --> 00:14:45.082
- I think, the president and, the secretary of the treasury
- 00:14:45.082 --> 00:14:48.585
- Are doing things to bring it down.
- 00:14:48.585 --> 00:14:50.220
- More has to be done, and it has to be done fairly quickly.
- 00:14:50.220 --> 00:14:54.358
- Otherwise we're going to have continuous problems on the debt.
- 00:14:54.358 --> 00:14:56.693
- We're going to have continuous problems,
- 00:14:56.693 --> 00:14:58.628
- And social security,
- 00:14:58.628 --> 00:14:59.596
- And we're going to have continuous problems
- 00:14:59.596 --> 00:15:01.331
- Throughout the nation.
- 00:15:01.331 --> 00:15:02.232
- But i believe in the next
- 00:15:02.232 --> 00:15:03.700
- Couple of years in the trump administration,
- 00:15:03.700 --> 00:15:06.403
- We're going to see some focus on that.
- 00:15:06.403 --> 00:15:08.505
- He has had to focus on some of the other issues
- 00:15:08.505 --> 00:15:11.808
- That were more urgent, like the border and crime and so forth.
- 00:15:11.808 --> 00:15:15.145
- But i think that the debt and and our economy is
- 00:15:15.145 --> 00:15:18.115
- It is a real part of the focus going forward.
- 00:15:18.115 --> 00:15:21.118
- Well, rich on oh, thank you for your time today.
- 00:15:22.085 --> 00:15:24.588
- Stay in touch so we can have you back on.
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- Thank you, alan, very much.
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- Very good to be with you and good luck. thank you.
- 00:15:28.191 --> 00:15:30.060
- Thank you. in a moment.
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- Signs of hope.
- 00:15:31.762 --> 00:15:32.696
- We can all see.
- 00:15:32.696 --> 00:15:40.012
- We can all see.
- 00:15:40.012 --> 00:15:44.113
- The digital world, with its emerging technologies
- 00:15:45.081 --> 00:15:47.517
- Like i can be daunting, even frightening.
- 00:15:47.517 --> 00:15:50.586
- Depending on the intent of the user,
- 00:15:50.586 --> 00:15:52.188
- It can be harnessed for good or for evil.
- 00:15:52.188 --> 00:15:55.024
- Yes, we should be concerned with the digital threats
- 00:15:55.024 --> 00:15:57.326
- Targeting our loved ones.
- 00:15:57.326 --> 00:15:59.128
- But i would suggest to you that a bigger threat
- 00:15:59.128 --> 00:16:01.697
- Is an attempt by evil forces to influence our minds
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- And our hearts with a worldview that's contrary to george,
- 00:16:04.700 --> 00:16:08.004
- Judeo-christian values.
- 00:16:08.004 --> 00:16:10.073
- You know, we can't afford to retreat.
- 00:16:10.073 --> 00:16:11.641
- If we retreat, we make our children
- 00:16:11.641 --> 00:16:13.176
- And our grandchildren less safe.
- 00:16:13.176 --> 00:16:15.278
- We've got to be courageous enough
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- To speak the truth that we know
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- And to not be manipulated by fear.
- 00:16:18.614 --> 00:16:21.451
- You know,
- 00:16:21.451 --> 00:16:22.385
- I mean, people all the time who say to me,
- 00:16:22.385 --> 00:16:23.419
- They don't agree with me, you know,
- 00:16:23.419 --> 00:16:25.154
- They'll tell you to say to me, you know, they're agnostic.
- 00:16:25.154 --> 00:16:27.857
- Something like, you know, i don't believe the bible is
- 00:16:27.857 --> 00:16:29.926
- God's word, and i don't even believe there is a god.
- 00:16:29.926 --> 00:16:32.161
- And i think churches are frauds.
- 00:16:32.161 --> 00:16:33.596
- And you're a charlatan.
- 00:16:33.596 --> 00:16:35.498
- It's not an unusual conversation for me.
- 00:16:35.498 --> 00:16:38.134
- And i'll respond, well, you know. good.
- 00:16:38.134 --> 00:16:39.502
- I'm happy for your opinion. my name is alan.
- 00:16:39.502 --> 00:16:42.238
- We're entitled to have those opinions,
- 00:16:42.238 --> 00:16:43.906
- And that individual should be safe and expressing that.
- 00:16:43.906 --> 00:16:47.210
- Well, in the same way, we should be safe
- 00:16:47.210 --> 00:16:49.378
- In expressing that we believe that there is a god.
- 00:16:49.378 --> 00:16:52.615
- We shouldn't
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- Be surprised
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- That people don't like our worldview or intolerant,
- 00:16:54.083 --> 00:16:56.853
- But that shouldn't make us afraid.
- 00:16:56.853 --> 00:16:58.921
- It should make us more determined.
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- Not angry, not hateful, not belligerent,
- 00:17:00.623 --> 00:17:03.126
- And certainly not violent, but determined.
- 00:17:03.126 --> 00:17:06.295
- When people treat us unfairly.
- 00:17:06.295 --> 00:17:08.297
- Choose to forgive, choose to be kind.
- 00:17:08.297 --> 00:17:11.534
- Perhaps the most touching moment during charlie kirk's memorial
- 00:17:11.534 --> 00:17:14.704
- Was when charlie's wife,
- 00:17:14.704 --> 00:17:16.005
- Erica, was speaking of the man who murdered her husband.
- 00:17:16.005 --> 00:17:19.375
- She said, i forgive him
- 00:17:19.375 --> 00:17:20.810
- Because it was what christ did and is what charlie would do.
- 00:17:20.810 --> 00:17:24.347
- What a godly example that is for all of us,
- 00:17:24.347 --> 00:17:26.949
- Even in the midst of unimaginable pain.
- 00:17:26.949 --> 00:17:28.951
- She chose to respond with the love of christ.
- 00:17:28.951 --> 00:17:31.387
- She chose light over darkness.
- 00:17:31.387 --> 00:17:33.890
- Folks, we're not called to look
- 00:17:33.890 --> 00:17:35.191
- Sophisticated as christ followers.
- 00:17:35.191 --> 00:17:37.126
- We're called
- 00:17:37.126 --> 00:17:38.027
- To be salt and light for him every time
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- We have an opportunity to do so.
- 00:17:39.695 --> 00:17:41.764
- If we'll do that, there's more reasons for hope than despair.
- 00:17:41.764 --> 00:17:44.667
- I promise
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- We'll be right back
- 00:17:46.469 --> 00:17:47.470
- With your emails.
- 00:17:47.470 --> 00:17:55.013
- With your emails.
- 00:17:55.013 --> 00:17:58.856
- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us.
- 00:17:59.723 --> 00:18:01.625
- Just a reminder,
- 00:18:01.625 --> 00:18:02.826
- If you ever miss a live episode, you can go to aj now.com.
- 00:18:02.826 --> 00:18:05.963
- There's a full archive there.
- 00:18:05.963 --> 00:18:08.032
- It's easy to watch any program you want to do
- 00:18:08.032 --> 00:18:09.833
- And even to share with the friend.
- 00:18:09.833 --> 00:18:11.435
- The more the merrier.
- 00:18:11.435 --> 00:18:12.903
- And thank you for your emails.
- 00:18:12.903 --> 00:18:14.238
- They're always a highlight.
- 00:18:14.238 --> 00:18:16.140
- Jane from michigan wrote i've heard
- 00:18:16.140 --> 00:18:18.742
- You say that we need to go beyond the walls of the church.
- 00:18:18.742 --> 00:18:21.812
- I love this idea.
- 00:18:21.812 --> 00:18:22.813
- I used to think when i said
- 00:18:22.813 --> 00:18:23.914
- In churches, why are we in four walls?
- 00:18:23.914 --> 00:18:26.283
- Why don't we roll up one of the walls
- 00:18:26.283 --> 00:18:27.651
- So that the neighborhoods and the people walking by
- 00:18:27.651 --> 00:18:29.753
- Can hear the singing and the message?
- 00:18:29.753 --> 00:18:31.755
- I appreciate your calm christian political viewpoints.
- 00:18:31.755 --> 00:18:35.492
- Well, thank you, jim.
- 00:18:35.492 --> 00:18:36.493
- I try to keep
- 00:18:36.493 --> 00:18:37.561
- The politics out of it and talk about our culture.
- 00:18:37.561 --> 00:18:40.231
- Not so much about parties or candidates,
- 00:18:40.231 --> 00:18:42.266
- But i believe
- 00:18:42.266 --> 00:18:43.400
- We have to use our voices as christians and churches
- 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:46.537
- To talk about what's happening in our culture.
- 00:18:46.537 --> 00:18:49.740
- And speaking of rolling up the walls
- 00:18:49.740 --> 00:18:51.342
- Every spring and every fall here
- 00:18:51.342 --> 00:18:53.143
- In murfreesboro, we take church outside.
- 00:18:53.143 --> 00:18:55.312
- We put up an outside stage, we do concerts.
- 00:18:55.312 --> 00:18:58.015
- We have church outdoors with food trucks and activities
- 00:18:58.015 --> 00:19:01.118
- For children.
- 00:19:01.118 --> 00:19:02.253
- The neighbors can hear,
- 00:19:02.253 --> 00:19:03.754
- Some of them are happy and some not so much.
- 00:19:03.754 --> 00:19:07.057
- But we're going back outside in a couple of weeks,
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- Dixie from texas wrote in.
- 00:19:10.494 --> 00:19:12.162
- She said pastor allen, i've been shocked at news
- 00:19:12.162 --> 00:19:14.365
- Reports from people, teachers and politicians
- 00:19:14.365 --> 00:19:17.368
- Celebrating the death of charlie kirk.
- 00:19:17.368 --> 00:19:19.870
- Some teachers in
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- Some states have been fired or put on leave
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- For their comments on social media.
- 00:19:22.406 --> 00:19:24.708
- Then they claim their first amendment
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- Rights from the constitution.
- 00:19:26.010 --> 00:19:27.611
- They seem to forget these were charlie
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- Kirk's rights as well as all american citizens.
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- Dixie, i have been surprised right along with you.
- 00:19:33.083 --> 00:19:37.054
- It has been unfortunate.
- 00:19:37.054 --> 00:19:38.956
- The attitude that has been taken by many people in celebrating
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- Charlie's death is assassination.
- 00:19:43.027 --> 00:19:46.764
- The loss of a life of someone in that way is horrific.
- 00:19:46.764 --> 00:19:50.100
- We should be praying for that family,
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- Praying for turning point usa, and praying for our nation.
- 00:19:51.835 --> 00:19:54.838
- We've got to be able to have a conversation
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- With one another, even if we don't always agree
- 00:19:56.540 --> 00:19:58.475
- On the topic or the scene,
- 00:19:58.475 --> 00:20:00.544
- We've got to have the right to have the conversation.
- 00:20:00.544 --> 00:20:02.846
- We can't surrender that. we shou
- 00:20:02.846 --> 00:20:05.816
- David a from washington wrote am i wrong?
- 00:20:06.684 --> 00:20:09.820
- Daily, i pray what a i pray before i sleep,
- 00:20:09.820 --> 00:20:12.790
- I give blessings before every meal.
- 00:20:12.790 --> 00:20:14.425
- I diligently read the bible.
- 00:20:14.425 --> 00:20:16.327
- I watch numerous tbn broadcast, but i don't attend any church
- 00:20:16.327 --> 00:20:19.963
- Services or assemble with religious organizations.
- 00:20:19.963 --> 00:20:23.133
- My deep religious feelings are private, am i wrong?
- 00:20:23.133 --> 00:20:26.937
- Well, david, in a word, yes, jesus ministry was public.
- 00:20:26.937 --> 00:20:31.575
- He came to minister to people.
- 00:20:31.575 --> 00:20:32.910
- He didn't come on a secret mission to die on the cross.
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- The bible tells us not to forsake
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- The assembling together of one another.
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- I think we need community,
- 00:20:39.149 --> 00:20:40.818
- Not so much a church, but we need a community
- 00:20:40.818 --> 00:20:42.619
- Of like minded believers in order to finish the race.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes with me today.
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- I'm alan jackson and i pray you have a wonderful evening.
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