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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Economic Optimism | Allen Jackson Now | August 6, 2025
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- When president trump took office this year,
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- Some of his sharpest advisors were saying that
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- There might be some very strong economic growth this year,
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- Perhaps even as much as 3% by the end of the year.
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- But when the new figures on the gross
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- Domestic product came out, the 3% had already been hit.
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- Six months into the new administration.
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- One of those very wise presidential economic
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- Advisers is with us again tonight.
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- Steve moore, welcome back to our show.
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- Thanks, alan, for having me.
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- You know, i'm all for positive thinking,
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- But when you said 3% by the end of the year,
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- Was that something you were hoping for,
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- Or did you actually think we'd get to 3%
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- By the end of the year, or even this much earlier?
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- Oh, i believe you can do it if you deregulate the economy,
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- If you cut taxes
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- And get better trade deals, if you promote american energy,
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- All the kinds of things trump is talking about doing.
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- Absolutely. 3 to 3.5% growth.
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- You know, that's our historical average.
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- So, certainly we can at least do as well
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- As we've done in the past.
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- It is it is not a moonshot to get to 3% growth.
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- And once you do,
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- You start bending the debt and deficit curve down.
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- Well, the white house says we might even get to 4%
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- By the end of the year.
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- Is that possible?
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- And what would have to happen to get there?
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- It's possible, given how, lousy the economy was under biden.
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- We've got a lot of catching up to do.
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- So i think it's, it's, you know, a
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- Bit of a stretch, but i think we can do it.
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- And by the way,
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- If that happens, we're going to see huge
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- Increases in jobs,
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- Huge increases in tax revenues and huge increases
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- In the productivity of the american economy.
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- And i'd love to see it.
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- You know,
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- We're moving into a new era of robotic,
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- Our official intelligence, things
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- That are going to supercharge
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- The economy with productivity and, and, wage gains.
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- So i think it is possible.
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- Well, there's a widespread belief
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- That the high interest rates
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- Are holding this country back, especially the housing industry.
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- You know, i realize that the fed is a sort of secret society,
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- But what can they possibly cite
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- To keep our rates so much higher than the rest of the world?
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- Well, the most important thing the fed has to do is maintain,
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- Low inflation and, create a stable and strong dollar.
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- That's why you have a monetary system.
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- That's why you have a currency
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- Is said it has to retain its value
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- And has to be a means of exchange.
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- And so, i don't want to see any more runaway
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- Inflation like we had under biden.
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- I think we could probably do 1 or 2 rate cuts right now.
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- I wouldn't go too far.
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- Because remember when, the fed lowered,
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- The federal funds rate back,
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- Before the election, the mortgage rate went up
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- Because of inflationary expectations.
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- So i think we've got to be very careful about this.
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- We want to make sure we don't see
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- We want to keep inflation that 1 to 2% range, not five
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- Six 7 or 8 9% as we had under joe biden.
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- I mean, my wife is still complaining
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- Every time i come home about the cost of groceries.
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- So we want to make sure that prices remain stable.
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- And, you know, hopefully
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- Gas prices and grocery prices will fall.
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- The prices seem to go up with inflation,
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- But they don't ever seem to come down when it cools off.
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- Yeah that's true.
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- That's why you get this permanent
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- Ratcheting up effect of inflation.
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- Because, you know, once the is you said it very well.
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- Once you hit a high inflation rate like we did under biden.
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- And you're starting at a new plateau.
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- And that's why, you know, things.
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- You know, when i was growing up in
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- The 70s, things are 8 to 10 times
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- More expensive than they were back then.
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- But you've moved from tariff
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- Skeptic to tariff believer and you're in good company.
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- Now listen to the ceo of jp morgan's comments.
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- We started tariffs.
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- We didn't know what they're going to be.
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- And now we kind of know.
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- And they're
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- They're more moderate and thoughtful and you know
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- More carefully done.
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- And hopefully they'll help some companies export,
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- You know, maybe some people move manufacturing back here.
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- So, you know, so far so good.
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- With the tariffs being implemented
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- Now, shouldn't that begin to help the u.s.
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- Job market, especially after the latest unemployment report?
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- It was more weak than anybody thought it would be.
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- Well, here's my view of this, that, you know, we had a lot of,
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- You know, tariff turmoil back in the first
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- 3 or 4 months of the trump presidency.
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- And that did that did hurt the economy, no question.
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- Remember, tariffs, our taxes.
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- And they, money out of the economy.
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- And so,
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- I talked to a lot of manufacturers
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- And so on who said,
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- You know, because of the supply chain
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- Problems of not being able to get,
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- You know, the, the imports and that they needed
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- To, you know, for their production processes.
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- There was there were layoffs and things of that nature.
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- But what so the tariffs i don't like what i do like
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- Is the trade deals because once you get those trade deals,
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- Signed into law,
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- Then you've got these countries that are actually going to
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- Open up their markets to u.s.
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- Goods, and that means more jobs
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- For americans, more profits for american companies,
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- More capital flowing into the united states.
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- So it's one of the reasons i'm so bullish on the u.s.
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- Economy right now.
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- Trump is getting very good trade deals
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- That are forcing other countries to stop,
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- Discriminating against american products.
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- Well, most of the world has cut trade deals with the president,
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- But china is predictably dragging things out.
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- Do you think we should play hardball with them this time,
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- Or just to make a deal to get it behind us?
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- Oh, i definitely think we should play hardball with china.
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- China's the new soviet union.
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- They're the new evil empire.
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- They are, they don't play by the rules.
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- They are incredibly aggressive and dangerous. and their
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- Military buildup.
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- I think we
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- Have to recognize that this is, this is a real adversary.
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- And so i think trump strategy is to try to trade
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- With other countries and then isolate china,
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- Because we don't want to see the united states lose.
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- We're not going to but i, i don't want, china to
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- Overtake our status as the world economic superpower.
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- You know, that's what china wants.
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- They want to replace the united states.
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- They want to replace the dollar,
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- As the world's reserve currency.
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- We cannot allow that to happen.
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- Do you have any concern about the us debt that china holds?
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- Well, we have too much debt, that's for sure.
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- You know what?
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- You were borrowing $35 trillion.
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- That's, that's a big problem.
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- Foreigners buy up some of that, that they buy a lot of it up.
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- The best way to foil china right now.
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- You know, you asked me about cutting interest rates.
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- I, you know, i think cutting interest rates might help.
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- But, you know, what would help even more
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- To improve the american economy is cut.
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- Unnecessary government spending,
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- Which is in the trillions of dollars.
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- And every time we reduce that,
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- Those government outlays and expenditures, it's less money.
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- We have to borrow from countries like china.
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- Well, one more tariff question before we take a break.
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- The president floated the idea of giving everyone
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- A tariff rebate check.
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- Is that still in the works?
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- I hope not.
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- I think it's a terrible idea.
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- The worst thing to do is have the government
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- Pass out free money to people.
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- It becomes like a welfare payment.
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- And that's not a
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- That's a terrible way to get the economy moving.
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- Much better to cut tax rates, reduce the taxes on our
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- Businesses and our workers so they don't have incentive tax
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- Or about incentives.
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- If you cut people's taxes,
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- You're going to give them more incentives
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- To work, more incentives to start businesses,
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- More invent, incentives to invest, giving people money.
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- I mean,
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- It'd be a wonderful thing
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- If we could just write checks to people
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- And the economy would be improved.
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- But we know that doesn't work.
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- Well, steve moore, please stay with us for another segment.
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- There's a lot more to discuss.
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- And if you want to get
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- In on this with your thoughts you can go to aj now.com.
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- Send me an email and we'll try to answer in our next show.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- We're back now with steve moore, an economist at the heritage
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- Foundation and former advisor to the president.
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- You're working on a project called vote with your feet.
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- Well, living here in nashville,
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- We've seen the evidence of that already.
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- Can you explain what it's about on a national level?
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- Yeah.
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- So i run
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- A group called unleash prosperity
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- With arthur laffer and steve forbes and other prominent,
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- Free market economists.
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- And so people can go to our website
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- At unleash prosperity and see the work
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- We do, trying to spread, good economic policy.
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- But one of our new projects is called vote with your feet
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- Dot net. that's vote with your feet, not.
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- And what we've done is we've compiled all the data on
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- Where americans are moving to and where they're moving from,
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- And also how much money they're taking with them
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- When they, you know, in terms of their income
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- And their assets, when they leave,
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- You know, let's say in new york and go to a state like texas.
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- And so what we find in this report, and by the way,
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- Go to vote with your feet.
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- Not and it's fun to play with you
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- Can you can click on two states and show you a big map.
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- You could click on say illinois.
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- And then you can click on florida
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- And i'll show you the moving bands
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- That are which direction the moving vans are moving into.
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- And you,
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- Probably know that when,
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- When it comes to a blue state like illinois
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- And a red state like florida,
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- Those moving vans are going south.
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- They're going,
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- The most of them are going into florida, not out of florida.
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- And so you can click on any combination of states
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- And see which states are winning the sweepstakes
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- And which states are losing them.
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- The two big winner states, are florida and texas,
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- Because they have no income tax in those states.
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- And the loser states are illinois and california
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- And new york and new jersey and massachusetts
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- That have raised taxes through the roof
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- And have a very progressive governing philosophy.
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- So, and incidentally, the southeast is just booming
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- Now. it's not just texas and florida.
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- It's also states like alabama, states like the carolinas.
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- It states like,
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- You know,
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- Even states like arkansas and,
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- Georgia are growing very quickly.
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- And they're
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- Sucking the capital, out and sort of
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- Almost sucking the blood out of the,
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- Out of the old northeastern states that have have really
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- Lost their greatest asset, which is their people.
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- Well, congressman mike lawler, a new york
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- Native, is genuinely worried that voting with your feet,
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- Combined
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- With the
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- Possible election of a socialist,
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- Will mean the end of the big apple.
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- Listen to what he said.
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- We've had enough.
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- And these policies that we saw under bill de blasio,
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- And andrew cuomo and kathy hochul
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- That have really destroyed the state.
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- They've run the state into the ground.
- 00:10:32.795 --> 00:10:36.165
- New york leads the nation in outmigration.
- 00:10:36.165 --> 00:10:38.434
- We have the highest tax burden, the worst business climate.
- 00:10:38.434 --> 00:10:41.771
- And now you add an avowed socialist into the mix.
- 00:10:41.771 --> 00:10:44.874
- Who's talking about seizing the means of production?
- 00:10:44.874 --> 00:10:47.677
- That is against capitalism.
- 00:10:47.677 --> 00:10:49.712
- What do you think might happen?
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- So that place and that that is losing
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- The most people in the united states?
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- The state is that's losing
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- The most people, has lost 2.5 million people
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- On that over the last ten years has been new york.
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- And it's, the it's the sad, rapid decline of
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- What was once our empire state.
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- And, of course, new york city was the empire city for america.
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- And yet,
- 00:11:13.236 --> 00:11:14.470
- What you're seeing is, you know, millions of people
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- Move out there taking their money with them.
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- They're taking their businesses with them.
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- And, in new york city, by the way,
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- Which is supposed to be the financial capital
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- Of the world with wall
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- Street has the highest taxes on financial investment.
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- It makes no sense.
- 00:11:29.552 --> 00:11:30.787
- It would be like if tim braska put a big tax on growing corn.
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- That doesn't make any sense at all.
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- And so i do believe that if new york were to,
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- Elect this socialist mayor,
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- I think that wall street will be gone from,
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- From new york all together, and the new wall street
- 00:11:46.068 --> 00:11:48.604
- Will be in dallas, or it will be in tampa, or will
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- Be in miami or some other city that's much more conducive
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- To economic growth and friendly to capital.
- 00:11:55.344 --> 00:11:58.614
- But la laffer is a tennessee.
- 00:11:58.614 --> 00:12:00.049
- And now the next time you visit,
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- You're both invited to be on set.
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- Well, you know that
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- I mentioned the top two states, which were,
- 00:12:06.155 --> 00:12:08.925
- You know,
- 00:12:08.925 --> 00:12:10.126
- Florida and texas in terms of getting people to come in.
- 00:12:10.126 --> 00:12:11.994
- And by the way, florida's imported $200
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- Billion of capital,
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- Mostly from states like new york and california.
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- But, tennessee is in the top four.
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- Tennessee, of course, has no income tax
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- Either, as you know, and that that is a magnet.
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- And so instead of raising taxes,
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- New york should be talking about cutting that.
- 00:12:28.244 --> 00:12:31.314
- We had a guest on recently who made the point
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- That eventually we're going to have to do something
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- About the entitlement programs,
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- But almost everyone in congress is afraid to say so.
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- Can any party
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- Address the entitlement bloat and still get reelected?
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- Oh, i think so.
- 00:12:45.027 --> 00:12:46.195
- I think americans are fed up
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- With the amount of borrowing that we're doing.
- 00:12:47.363 --> 00:12:50.132
- And, you know, social security needs to be completely revamped.
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- It is a rip off for young workers.
- 00:12:52.935 --> 00:12:55.271
- I, by the way, i'm not a young worker anymore.
- 00:12:55.271 --> 00:12:57.139
- I'm an old worker. but, you know, i'm 65.
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- And what i favor
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- Is letting young people be able to take 10% of their paycheck.
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- And instead of sending that 10%
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- Into the social security system,
- 00:13:05.615 --> 00:13:07.450
- They would be able to put that money into a 401 k plan.
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- And in the index fund of all the stocks,
- 00:13:10.987 --> 00:13:13.422
- And really build up real wealth over time.
- 00:13:13.422 --> 00:13:16.092
- If i had been able to do that
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- When i was young and over the last 40 years,
- 00:13:17.593 --> 00:13:21.864
- But i my social security benefit will be $3,200 a month,
- 00:13:21.864 --> 00:13:25.501
- I just looked up the numbers, but if i had put it into a,
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- Into an ira account and, and let the money grow,
- 00:13:29.405 --> 00:13:33.709
- I'd be able to get a benefit of about $13,000 a month.
- 00:13:33.709 --> 00:13:37.413
- So social security is a terrible deal.
- 00:13:37.413 --> 00:13:39.782
- We're really punishing our kids by forcing them
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- To put their money into this ponzi scheme of social security.
- 00:13:42.818 --> 00:13:45.755
- And if we could do that, just think we're not in 1
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- Or 2 generations, we'd eliminate the entire social security,
- 00:13:48.024 --> 00:13:51.928
- And it would be a fully funded program. wow.
- 00:13:51.928 --> 00:13:54.764
- Well, when even the legitimate cuts were made in
- 00:13:55.698 --> 00:13:57.633
- Medicare and the recent budget bill was a good start.
- 00:13:57.633 --> 00:14:01.404
- But is that nearly enough?
- 00:14:01.404 --> 00:14:03.673
- No, no, it's not it's not nearly enough.
- 00:14:03.673 --> 00:14:06.575
- And you know that there's a, you know, a cartoon
- 00:14:06.575 --> 00:14:10.079
- That's going around with a big, big, huge oak tree,
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- You know, with giant branches and huge, you know,
- 00:14:12.448 --> 00:14:16.686
- Base of the tree.
- 00:14:17.119 --> 00:14:18.220
- And, and somebody comes, you know, it's a republican.
- 00:14:18.220 --> 00:14:21.090
- He cuts off a little twig from the tree
- 00:14:21.090 --> 00:14:23.526
- And all the liberals say, oh, my god, it's going to die.
- 00:14:23.526 --> 00:14:25.828
- It's going to die. no.
- 00:14:25.828 --> 00:14:27.496
- And that's
- 00:14:27.496 --> 00:14:28.698
- What republicans have done, you know, with the medicaid,
- 00:14:28.698 --> 00:14:30.533
- They've cut a little bit of the program.
- 00:14:30.533 --> 00:14:32.201
- And and the democrats are running around
- 00:14:32.201 --> 00:14:33.769
- Saying that everybody's going to die.
- 00:14:33.769 --> 00:14:35.471
- Of course, we have to make very significant
- 00:14:35.471 --> 00:14:37.340
- Reforms in those programs.
- 00:14:37.340 --> 00:14:38.908
- And that should start by getting people who aren't
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- Eligible for the program to stop getting the benefits.
- 00:14:40.710 --> 00:14:43.346
- How about work requirements so that someone who
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- Is capable of working
- 00:14:45.648 --> 00:14:47.083
- And they want to go on the government dol
- 00:14:47.083 --> 00:14:49.452
- They should have to work in exchange for those benefits.
- 00:14:49.452 --> 00:14:52.722
- I think about 80 to 90% of americans agree with that.
- 00:14:52.722 --> 00:14:56.559
- Well, just one more question.
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- These mega deals
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- That the president is making with japan and the eu
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- And some of the middle eastern countries.
- 00:15:01.630 --> 00:15:03.532
- When will we see the benefit of those?
- 00:15:03.532 --> 00:15:05.267
- And it will be in time
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- To keep the republican party in the majority going forward.
- 00:15:06.469 --> 00:15:09.605
- Are you talking about the trade deals?
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- Yes, sir.
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- Yeah.
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- I think,
- 00:15:12.575 --> 00:15:13.776
- You know, we'll see how quickly those can be implemented.
- 00:15:13.776 --> 00:15:16.345
- Just a week or two ago, we got the europe
- 00:15:16.345 --> 00:15:18.714
- A deal with the european union.
- 00:15:18.714 --> 00:15:20.616
- That's an excellent deal.
- 00:15:20.616 --> 00:15:22.585
- It brings hundreds of billions of dollars
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- Of new investment into the united states.
- 00:15:24.453 --> 00:15:26.622
- It forces the europeans to stop discriminating
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- Against american products, our dairy products,
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- Our agricultural products,
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- Our technology services, and our,
- 00:15:33.129 --> 00:15:36.432
- Great manufacturing in this country.
- 00:15:36.432 --> 00:15:38.167
- So that's going to, i think, pay big dividends.
- 00:15:38.167 --> 00:15:41.237
- I think you'll start to see those dividends being paid by
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- The end of the year.
- 00:15:43.939 --> 00:15:44.874
- Well, steve moore, thank you for your time again today.
- 00:15:45.941 --> 00:15:48.277
- It's always great to see you.
- 00:15:48.277 --> 00:15:50.012
- Let the president know we'd like to have him on our show.
- 00:15:50.012 --> 00:15:52.381
- When you see him next. i'll get. him.
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- I'll get him, my friend. thank you very much.
- 00:15:54.150 --> 00:15:56.118
- Thank you.
- 00:15:56.118 --> 00:15:57.520
- In a moment, a good dose of hope.
- 00:15:57.520 --> 00:15:59.789
- I'll be right back.
- 00:15:59.789 --> 00:16:08.005
- I'll be right back.
- 00:16:08.005 --> 00:16:11.235
- You know, we are living in a turbulent world.
- 00:16:12.170 --> 00:16:14.439
- Just about any place to put your finger on the globe.
- 00:16:14.439 --> 00:16:16.707
- There's a conflict.
- 00:16:16.707 --> 00:16:18.209
- We've been just a hair's breath
- 00:16:18.209 --> 00:16:19.510
- Away from being engaged in multiple conflicts recently.
- 00:16:19.510 --> 00:16:22.814
- It's not an easy time to be peaceful.
- 00:16:22.814 --> 00:16:24.982
- There are loud voices saying the economy is going to crater.
- 00:16:24.982 --> 00:16:28.219
- All sorts of dire predictions.
- 00:16:28.219 --> 00:16:30.288
- Fear broadcasted over the airwaves.
- 00:16:30.288 --> 00:16:32.223
- And too often
- 00:16:32.223 --> 00:16:34.025
- Preachers ministers are adding to the clutter of the noise.
- 00:16:34.025 --> 00:16:37.728
- When president trump first
- 00:16:37.728 --> 00:16:38.796
- Unveiled a reciprocal tariff plan back in april,
- 00:16:38.796 --> 00:16:41.432
- The ceo of the largest financial institution in the us
- 00:16:41.432 --> 00:16:44.569
- Said on fox the recession was the likely outcome.
- 00:16:44.569 --> 00:16:48.206
- Famous commentators on cnbc were saying the market
- 00:16:48.206 --> 00:16:51.109
- Would crash, retirement savings would significant diminish.
- 00:16:51.109 --> 00:16:55.046
- Now fast forward a few months and those same experts
- 00:16:55.046 --> 00:16:57.715
- Are singing a different tune.
- 00:16:57.715 --> 00:16:59.217
- The messages are conflicting.
- 00:16:59.217 --> 00:17:01.486
- Now. just because we see fearful headlines doesn't
- 00:17:01.486 --> 00:17:04.055
- Mean we have to lead our lives dominated by fear.
- 00:17:04.055 --> 00:17:07.892
- Some of us are world class worriers.
- 00:17:07.892 --> 00:17:10.761
- Some of us have actually allowed our personalities
- 00:17:10.761 --> 00:17:12.930
- To be formed around the habit of worry.
- 00:17:12.930 --> 00:17:15.399
- It quite literally defines us.
- 00:17:15.399 --> 00:17:17.702
- But here's the reality.
- 00:17:17.702 --> 00:17:18.836
- Worrying doesn't help.
- 00:17:18.836 --> 00:17:20.638
- In matthew six, jesus had a comment.
- 00:17:20.638 --> 00:17:22.540
- He said, don't worry about tomorrow.
- 00:17:22.540 --> 00:17:24.575
- Tomorrow worry about itself.
- 00:17:24.575 --> 00:17:26.544
- The old english word for worry literally means to choke
- 00:17:26.544 --> 00:17:29.847
- In the way a wolf would worry a lamb
- 00:17:29.847 --> 00:17:31.616
- When he'd grabbed the lamb by the throat.
- 00:17:31.616 --> 00:17:33.818
- Worry will choke you.
- 00:17:33.818 --> 00:17:35.653
- And jesus said, worrying about tomorrow is unfruitful.
- 00:17:35.653 --> 00:17:38.189
- We forfeit our peace. here's the good news.
- 00:17:38.189 --> 00:17:40.858
- If jesus said, we don't have to do it, we can stop.
- 00:17:40.858 --> 00:17:43.861
- Let's make that our determination if we'll do it.
- 00:17:43.861 --> 00:17:46.030
- Let's focus on the hopeful.
- 00:17:46.030 --> 00:17:47.632
- It'll bring better things to our lives.
- 00:17:47.632 --> 00:17:50.067
- I'll be back in just a moment with your emails.
- 00:17:50.067 --> 00:18:00.005
- I'll be back in just a moment with your emails.
- 00:18:00.005 --> 00:18:04.642
- Thank you for spending a few minutes with us today.
- 00:18:05.643 --> 00:18:08.078
- Just a reminder, if you ever miss
- 00:18:08.078 --> 00:18:09.413
- An episode live, you can always go to aj now.com.
- 00:18:09.413 --> 00:18:12.416
- They're all archived there.
- 00:18:12.416 --> 00:18:13.951
- Makes it easy to see them even share them with a friend.
- 00:18:13.951 --> 00:18:16.887
- Thanks for taking the time to send your emails.
- 00:18:16.887 --> 00:18:19.423
- Mark from crossville, tennessee wrote thank you
- 00:18:19.423 --> 00:18:22.026
- For being a beacon of truth and light in this fallen world.
- 00:18:22.026 --> 00:18:25.362
- I think it's amazing how the lord is exposing
- 00:18:25.362 --> 00:18:27.431
- The deception of the enemy,
- 00:18:27.431 --> 00:18:28.899
- The lies against president trump, and bringing vindication.
- 00:18:28.899 --> 00:18:32.303
- I thought of ecclesiastes ten eight,
- 00:18:32.303 --> 00:18:34.071
- The pit, the enemy's dog has fallen into it.
- 00:18:34.071 --> 00:18:36.941
- And galatians six eight.
- 00:18:36.941 --> 00:18:38.309
- Be very sure whatsoever a man sows, he will also reap.
- 00:18:38.309 --> 00:18:42.079
- Keep up the great fight.
- 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:44.048
- Well, mark,
- 00:18:44.048 --> 00:18:44.982
- I think it is remarkable to see the truth
- 00:18:44.982 --> 00:18:46.350
- That's being told in the public square.
- 00:18:46.350 --> 00:18:48.352
- You know, i complain frequently, sometimes, about god's timing.
- 00:18:48.352 --> 00:18:52.289
- He doesn't bring the truth in the timeline, i imagine.
- 00:18:52.289 --> 00:18:55.593
- But there's truth being told.
- 00:18:55.593 --> 00:18:56.961
- It holds the potential to bring new freedom to all of us.
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- Keep praying.
- 00:19:00.331 --> 00:19:02.266
- Then rick emailed.
- 00:19:02.700 --> 00:19:03.701
- God is moving.
- 00:19:03.701 --> 00:19:04.735
- How about a segment
- 00:19:04.735 --> 00:19:05.970
- On how three states louisiana, arkansas, and texas have passed
- 00:19:05.970 --> 00:19:09.740
- Laws in the last year that if someone supplies them,
- 00:19:09.740 --> 00:19:12.409
- The ten commandments are to be posted in classrooms.
- 00:19:12.409 --> 00:19:15.446
- Your friend mr.
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- Barton is spearheading
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- It is spearheading a project to supply them.
- 00:19:17.147 --> 00:19:19.650
- Other states have bills in their legislative bodies.
- 00:19:19.650 --> 00:19:22.453
- A few good news stories would be worth the time.
- 00:19:22.453 --> 00:19:25.856
- Amen to that, rick. and that is good news.
- 00:19:25.856 --> 00:19:28.225
- Free speech is being restored, one brick at a time.
- 00:19:28.225 --> 00:19:32.229
- We've been a bit like the frog in the kettle.
- 00:19:32.229 --> 00:19:34.098
- They've been limiting our free speech
- 00:19:34.098 --> 00:19:35.666
- And our free expression of our faith for far too long.
- 00:19:35.666 --> 00:19:39.536
- And there are some permissions being restored now.
- 00:19:39.536 --> 00:19:42.139
- It's going to take a courageous church
- 00:19:42.139 --> 00:19:44.141
- To walk into this new future.
- 00:19:44.141 --> 00:19:46.310
- Finally, timothy commented on youtube.
- 00:19:47.144 --> 00:19:49.446
- The body of christ hasn't done a good job in standing firm
- 00:19:49.446 --> 00:19:52.016
- On god's truth, and satan is plotting our demise.
- 00:19:52.016 --> 00:19:55.753
- We argue with one another.
- 00:19:55.753 --> 00:19:56.854
- Is there being a light in this dark world?
- 00:19:56.854 --> 00:19:59.089
- But like you say,
- 00:19:59.089 --> 00:20:00.257
- I think god is waking us up and moving the frauds out.
- 00:20:00.257 --> 00:20:04.061
- Well, timothy, i agree.
- 00:20:04.561 --> 00:20:05.896
- There's no question god is moving in the earth.
- 00:20:05.896 --> 00:20:08.265
- It's unfortunate that we have argued about secondary issues,
- 00:20:08.265 --> 00:20:11.835
- The style of worship music,
- 00:20:11.835 --> 00:20:13.470
- Or the color of the fabric on the pews in our churches.
- 00:20:13.470 --> 00:20:17.207
- And we've failed to stand up
- 00:20:17.207 --> 00:20:18.609
- For those fundamental biblical principles
- 00:20:18.609 --> 00:20:20.411
- That principles that come to us from scripture.
- 00:20:20.411 --> 00:20:22.946
- Fortunately, we're changing, and that is a reason for hope.
- 00:20:22.946 --> 00:20:26.650
- I'm alan jackson, and you have a wonderful evening.
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