Eric Eggers joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Election Integrity | Allen Jackson Now | June 9, 2026
- Good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- You know,
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- What are the most basic expectations in a democracy?
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- Is that when election day arrives, people vote.
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- The ballots are counted, and the public learns the results.
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- It shouldn't be a complicated process.
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- Once again, california is showing the rest of the country
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- Just how far we've drifted from what most americans
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- Would just consider common sense.
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- In los angeles, spencer pratt appeared to have a clear path
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- To the november runoff on election day.
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- He was ahead of nithya raman,
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- Who looked like she was out of the race
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- Because of her distant third place results.
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- Then, as additional mail in ballots continued to arrive,
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- Pratt's lead began shrinking day after day.
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- And a week later, everything's changed.
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- Pratt now finds himself out of the race.
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- Voters are left wondering what happened and why.
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- Election results change long after election day is past.
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- Well, americans, no elections do not have to work this way.
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- Florida counts
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- Millions of ballots and reports results quickly.
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- Texas? they do the same.
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- They're large states with large populations.
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- Yet somehow they managed to conduct elections
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- In a way that allows citizens
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- To have confidence in the outcome.
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- Well, california, on the other hand, they built
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- An election system around mass mail in voting.
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- California also allows ballot harvesting.
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- Ballot harvesting occurs when someone other
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- Than the voter returns a mail ballot.
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- In california, the rules allow third parties,
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- Political operatives, campaign workers, and activists
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- To collect and return ballots.
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- That leaves a lot more room for coercion, bribery, and fraud.
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- California has moved
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- Toward fewer safeguards and longer counting periods.
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- But if florida and texas can count millions of ballots
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- And provide timely results within hours of polls closing.
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- Why can't california
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- If election officials insist that the system is secure?
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- Why does it take weeks to determine the outcome?
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- It just stands to reason
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- That if voters lose faith in elections,
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- They're going to stop participating.
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- You know, it seems to me that the waves of deception
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- Just continue to crash over our lives.
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- When you see what's taking place
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- In our society, it's confusing.
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- It's disorienting because there's talking heads
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- Telling us not to notice, but we have to pay attention.
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- In fact,
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- I'm going to suggest that we're going to have
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- To become more astute consumers of information.
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- Pay attention to the world we're living in.
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- You know, just recently in los angeles,
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- A woman pled guilty to running a voter registration scheme.
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- It exploited homeless people living on los angeles skid row.
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- She roamed skid row, offering as little as $2 along
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- With cigarets or maybe a phone charging cord to persuade
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- Homeless people to complete voter registration forms.
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- Federal prosecutors say the woman directed
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- Homeless registrants to use her former los angeles address
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- On all the registration paperwork.
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- Because california automatically sends
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- Ballots to registered voters.
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- The registrations created the possibility that ballots
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- Could be routed to the woman's home address,
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- Or her scheme stretched back years and focused heavily
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- On skid row because of its large homeless population.
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- You know, once upon a time, if you were physically disabled,
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- Not able to travel or to stand in line,
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- The family member could help you return your ballot.
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- People looked at that and felt it was reasonable.
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- But then the rules drastically changed
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- In california and in ten other states.
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- Anyone can collect ballots and return them.
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- Not your spouse, not your son or your daughter.
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- Not somebody you know and trust.
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- Just any random third party can turn in a ballot for you,
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- And we're supposed to believe that that's a secure system.
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- You know, recently, the u.s.
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- Attorney's office said
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- That california was blocking an audit of its voter rolls.
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- And they noted that the state even allows first
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- Time voters to use surprising forms of i.d.
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- To register to vote.
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- Surprising things like a gym membership card
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- Or a credit card, or even a prescription label
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- That's been peeled off a drug bottle.
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- In this day and age, when astronauts can fly
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- Around the moon and back and online
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- Orders can be delivered within hours.
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- Surely americans don't have to settle
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- For a voting system that is slow, less transparent,
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- And increasingly difficult for voters to trust.
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- It just feels foolish to me that there are people
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- That don't want to have voter i.d..
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- You know, decades ago, we used to not have any security
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- At the airport.
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- You go straight to your gate, straight to your plane,
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- And you could meet your friends
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- And your loved ones when they were arriving.
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- But the world changed.
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- And because of the threats emerging
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- From all over the world, we had to put security at the airport.
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- Well, once upon a time, voter
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- Id might not have been considered a necessary thing.
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- But our world has changed.
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- We had 20 million people come across our border
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- Illegally during the biden administration.
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- And in order to maintain secure elections today,
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- We have to adapt in a way
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- That makes sense to the world that we are currently living in.
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- Voter id is not an intrusion.
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- It's a necessary tool.
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- It will help ensure our liberties
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- And our freedoms by making sure our citizens
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- Are the ones who are doing the voting.
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- This voter fraud discussion should also be looked
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- At through the lens
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- Of the larger conversation on fraud and lawlessness.
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- Stealing money, stealing votes, ignoring laws.
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- They're all symptoms
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- Of a culture with a diminished christian influence.
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- Unfortunately, we as the church have witnessed
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- Murky messages of compassion messages laced
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- With inclusivity from pulpits in christian circles.
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- And absent the truth of scripture.
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- Many have fallen under the spell of this cultural good
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- Whatever became of sin.
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- I know it's inconvenient to discuss.
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- It's as
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- If we're not sure how to respond or what the message should be.
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- Because at the end of the day, we don't want to be offensive.
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- We don't want to be labeled.
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- We certainly don't want to get canceled.
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- We don't want our friends to step away,
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- Or our family members at our kitchen
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- Tables to be upset with us.
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- I think most of the time we'd much prefer to be labeled
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- As a person of grace and a person of mercy.
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- Well, i believe in the mercy and the grace of god.
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- But that's not the entire character of god.
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- When we ignore god's laws and our personal conduct,
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- And we suspend god's principles
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- For the goal of maintaining family unity, we surrender
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- The broader culture to a brazen expressions of ungodliness.
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- We must determine to be champions of the truth.
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- If we'll do that,
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- There are certainly more reasons for hope than despair.
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- Well, in a moment, joining us will be eric eggers.
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- He's the vice president of the government
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- Accountability institute.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- Well, tonight we're joined by the vice president
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- Of the government accountability institute, erik eggers.
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- Welcome back to the show, eric.
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- Allan, it's great to be with you and your audience.
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- How are you?
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- We are.
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- Well, you know, it is primary season
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- In many states, and they're working diligently
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- To try to fill the candidates for the midterm elections,
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- See if trump can have a historic victory
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- And maintain the house of the senate.
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- All eyes have been on california for the last few days.
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- I'm not sure we can call it election fraud yet,
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- But it certainly seems to be a bizarre story unfolding.
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- What's your sense
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- Of the fairness of california's elections?
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- Allan, i think you are being characteristically overly
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- Charitable by calling california's
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- Amount of time that they've commanded the national attention
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- Only a few days.
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- Sadly, what's happened
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- In california has been going on now for over a week.
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- And the reality is, is by the time we actually know
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- Who won,
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- You may have been able to conduct
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- Literally a biblical flood, let alone an election.
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- In this state, the amount of delays
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- That you're going to have because of the ways
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- They've intentionally drawn the rules in california.
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- We may still have another week or two
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- Because of the amount of time they give you to
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- Take our ballots after they've been postmarked.
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- You know,
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- This is why they're having a supreme court case, a decision
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- We expect to have later this summer
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- That maybe puts an end to this.
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- But the reality is between,
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- Automatic voter registration, between mailing everybody
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- A ballot, between the lengthy and unnecessary curing process
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- And a number of other laws they put into place.
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- California's, elections this week, unfortunately,
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- In the national spotlight. not for good reason.
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- Well, steve hilton, candidate for governor there,
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- He has an opinion about their election process.
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- Listen to his comments.
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- Everywhere you look, crime, chaos, homelessness,
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- The high speed rail they can't finish.
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- And now they can't even count votes properly.
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- And that's what's so laughable about it.
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- This election shambles,
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- This fiasco where they're saying it's
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- Going to be like another month before we know the result fully.
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- It's just an example of how these people can't run anything.
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- Well, we're we're all watching california's train
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- Wreck of an election.
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- But what about other states or other states
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- That do an exemplary job with election integrity?
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- Oh, absolutely.
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- You know, it's funny that steve hilton clip, by the way,
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- Reminds me of the phrase, how you do
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- One thing is how you do anything.
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- And just to kind of finish the point
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- On california and the fraud specifically,
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- You've seen in the news recently how much frauds
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- Have been identified in that state,
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- Whether it's the welfare system, hospice,
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- Any number of kind of housing programs
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- Or actually homelessness,
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- Which a lot of the fraud that's happening in california
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- Elections actually comes from the homeless populations.
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- But, states like florida,
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- Which obviously was in the national spotlight,
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- Similar to california 26 years ago in the 2000 recount.
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- You know, this is what has to happen.
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- You have the floors be held up on a national scale.
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- I think you're embarrassed as florida was correctly.
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- And then they put in laws and,
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- Protocols in place to correct it. right.
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- So, the florida counts
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- All their ballots on the same night of election.
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- We don't allow these late arriving ballots
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- Unless they're from the military.
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- We have, you know, kind of voter id laws,
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- Which california has the opposite.
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- They actually have a law
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- Banning cities from requiring voter i.d..
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- So, yeah, it's like there's
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- The whole phrase laboratories of democracy.
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- And people can see what happens in one laboratory
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- In california versus what happens in states like florida.
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- I think there's some wisdom in connecting all the fraud points.
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- You know,
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- Fraud is just a bit more of a dressed up word for stealing.
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- So we're talking about election fraud.
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- We're talking about stealing elections.
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- What is the biggest concern in election fraud
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- And how do we make them more secure?
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- So it's interesting, right?
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- Because i think, you know, fraud.
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- And the word for fraud is crime, right?
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- Like when you commit fraud, you are committing a crime.
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- And i thought it was really telling that
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- When they had a press conference in ohio about fraud,
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- Not in elections, but in welfare systems,
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- In addition
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- To having a lot of federal agency
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- Heads there, you also had the governor
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- And you had the attorney general,
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- Who's the top law enforcement official in that state.
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- And the state officials said a really interesting thing.
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- They said, look, we welcome the participation
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- And support of the federal authorities
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- In helping us to stamp out this crime.
- 00:11:11.596 --> 00:11:13.631
- The reality is, states like california states
- 00:11:13.631 --> 00:11:15.933
- Unfortunately run by democrats, have done the opposite.
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- They've not welcomed federal authorities
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- In trying to stop fraud,
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- Whether it's from
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- A human services standpoint or election standpoint.
- 00:11:23.341 --> 00:11:25.643
- They've actively fought them, and that's what sadly
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- Happened in california.
- 00:11:27.912 --> 00:11:29.080
- The department of justice
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- Has tried to look at these voter rolls and said,
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- We want to do an audit
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- Of every name that's on it, because we know that's actually
- 00:11:33.518 --> 00:11:36.120
- Where the breeding ground for the fraud is.
- 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.089
- When you get names on voter rolls registered,
- 00:11:38.089 --> 00:11:40.291
- That shouldn't be allowed to participate in elections,
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- And then you mail all of them a ballot.
- 00:11:42.527 --> 00:11:44.295
- Of course, fraud is going to occur.
- 00:11:44.295 --> 00:11:45.663
- And that's exactly what's happened.
- 00:11:45.663 --> 00:11:46.798
- You've got assistant u.s.
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- Attorney saying on the record, we know fraud has happened.
- 00:11:47.999 --> 00:11:50.401
- We know we'll be bringing charges in california.
- 00:11:50.401 --> 00:11:52.236
- So states should stop fighting the federal authorities
- 00:11:52.236 --> 00:11:55.006
- Stop trying to prevent them from auditing the voter rolls.
- 00:11:55.006 --> 00:11:57.675
- I think that's the biggest step that has to happen.
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- You mentioned the midterms and donald trump,
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- If they can actually get audits on these voter rolls
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- And clean them up before the midterms,
- 00:12:04.148 --> 00:12:05.983
- I think that's going to give them a real chance
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- Of keeping the house and possibly the senate.
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- We know you and the
- 00:12:10.488 --> 00:12:11.322
- Team at the gao are research experts
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- In these states,
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- Where the fraud is so widespread
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- And there are billions of dollars involved,
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- And yet the voters don't seem to express any concern.
- 00:12:18.629 --> 00:12:22.533
- Is there anything in the data that suggest
- 00:12:22.533 --> 00:12:24.001
- How the voters can be that numb to crime at that level?
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- It's hard to understand.
- 00:12:27.905 --> 00:12:29.340
- For those of us that are just watching.
- 00:12:29.340 --> 00:12:31.809
- So that's a great question, alan.
- 00:12:31.809 --> 00:12:33.544
- And what's interesting is that when measures that would address
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- And prevent some of this fraud from occurring,
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- Like voter id, are introduced,
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- Then actually what the polling suggested,
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- There is widespread support for it.
- 00:12:42.587 --> 00:12:44.322
- California, to their credit, is actually
- 00:12:44.322 --> 00:12:46.023
- Going to have against the will
- 00:12:46.023 --> 00:12:47.491
- And wishes and efforts of the governor. gavin newsom.
- 00:12:47.491 --> 00:12:49.927
- It's actually going to have an amendment
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- On the ballot in november that would require voter id
- 00:12:51.362 --> 00:12:54.065
- That's polling at above 70% of leave washington state,
- 00:12:54.065 --> 00:12:57.435
- Which actually has, like california,
- 00:12:57.435 --> 00:12:59.136
- Among the worst election laws in the country.
- 00:12:59.136 --> 00:13:01.272
- They have an initiative that would require,
- 00:13:01.272 --> 00:13:03.774
- Proof of citizenship when you register to vote.
- 00:13:03.774 --> 00:13:05.610
- What a novel idea.
- 00:13:05.610 --> 00:13:06.677
- That's polling about 80%,
- 00:13:06.677 --> 00:13:08.479
- But they're still trying to collect signatures there.
- 00:13:08.479 --> 00:13:10.081
- So you're watching
- 00:13:10.081 --> 00:13:11.349
- Washington state, like, look for the ability to support that.
- 00:13:11.349 --> 00:13:13.985
- So i think when common sense reforms are introduced
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- Or suggested, support is there for them.
- 00:13:16.954 --> 00:13:18.956
- But the reality is, is that why people aren't more outraged
- 00:13:18.956 --> 00:13:22.193
- By the fraud is so many different populations
- 00:13:22.193 --> 00:13:23.995
- Are actually on the receiving end of the fraud.
- 00:13:23.995 --> 00:13:26.764
- And, you know, so,
- 00:13:26.764 --> 00:13:29.033
- And democrat party
- 00:13:29.033 --> 00:13:30.234
- Officials, unfortunately,
- 00:13:30.234 --> 00:13:31.168
- Are supported by those populations
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- That are on the receiving end of the fraud.
- 00:13:32.637 --> 00:13:34.205
- So, there's not a significant amount of public
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- Will in these blue states to stop it. wow.
- 00:13:36.574 --> 00:13:39.410
- Well, eric, we need to take a short break.
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- Can you stand by for another segment?
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- Anything for you, alan?
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- Well, if you're watching, i got your phone in your hand.
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- Try logging on to aj now.
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- Dot com. send me an email.
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- We'll be right back.
- 00:13:50.688 --> 00:13:58.001
- We'll be right back.
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- We're back now with the vice president
- 00:14:03.367 --> 00:14:05.169
- Of the government accountability institute, eric eggers.
- 00:14:05.169 --> 00:14:08.873
- And your research with peter schweitzer.
- 00:14:08.873 --> 00:14:10.541
- You've uncovered that the two countries
- 00:14:10.541 --> 00:14:12.343
- Most linked to drug cartel trade
- 00:14:12.343 --> 00:14:14.111
- That's coming into the us or mexico and china.
- 00:14:14.111 --> 00:14:17.848
- President trump seems to have had a focus on venezuela
- 00:14:17.848 --> 00:14:21.319
- In spite of that business relationship
- 00:14:21.319 --> 00:14:22.853
- That's pumping the drugs into our country.
- 00:14:22.853 --> 00:14:25.356
- Why do you think that focus is?
- 00:14:25.356 --> 00:14:28.759
- Well, look, it's a it's a complicated
- 00:14:28.759 --> 00:14:30.394
- Geopolitical landscape, right?
- 00:14:30.394 --> 00:14:31.896
- I mean, as you noted,
- 00:14:31.896 --> 00:14:32.797
- China and mexico are the two countries
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- That we've linked the most in the fentanyl trade
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- In this country.
- 00:14:37.301 --> 00:14:38.102
- And obviously,
- 00:14:38.102 --> 00:14:39.303
- You know, in the research that we've done
- 00:14:39.303 --> 00:14:41.005
- With peter schweizer, just last book,
- 00:14:41.005 --> 00:14:42.707
- Expose the activities of these mexican consulates and,
- 00:14:42.707 --> 00:14:46.510
- The department of justice has actually indicted,
- 00:14:46.510 --> 00:14:49.213
- You, a mexican official, for being linked to,
- 00:14:49.213 --> 00:14:52.616
- The drug cartels there,
- 00:14:52.616 --> 00:14:53.617
- And they'd like mexican mexico to turn them over.
- 00:14:53.617 --> 00:14:56.120
- Mexico has thus far resisted in doing so.
- 00:14:56.120 --> 00:14:58.422
- So that's why the trump administration
- 00:14:58.422 --> 00:14:59.991
- Has opened an investigation into these mexican consulates.
- 00:14:59.991 --> 00:15:03.060
- And so some people said, well,
- 00:15:03.060 --> 00:15:04.028
- Why would we continue to have anything to do
- 00:15:04.028 --> 00:15:06.130
- With these countries if we know they're
- 00:15:06.130 --> 00:15:07.531
- Pumping drugs into this country, as they clearly are?
- 00:15:07.531 --> 00:15:10.334
- And the reality is we have business relationships
- 00:15:10.334 --> 00:15:12.470
- With mexico, business relationship with china.
- 00:15:12.470 --> 00:15:15.573
- With everything that's going on in iran right now, access
- 00:15:15.573 --> 00:15:18.676
- To oil from venezuela is also a strategic, kind of priority.
- 00:15:18.676 --> 00:15:22.780
- So, yeah, i think things are complicated,
- 00:15:22.780 --> 00:15:24.415
- But i do think kind of
- 00:15:24.415 --> 00:15:25.583
- Looks like the fraud is refreshing
- 00:15:25.583 --> 00:15:27.451
- To see the administration
- 00:15:27.451 --> 00:15:28.552
- Take stopping the drug trade, enforcing the border
- 00:15:28.552 --> 00:15:31.122
- Where a lot of the drugs
- 00:15:31.122 --> 00:15:31.922
- Come from and make it a priority.
- 00:15:31.922 --> 00:15:33.324
- And do you think the numbers reflect
- 00:15:33.324 --> 00:15:34.592
- It's making a positive difference?
- 00:15:34.592 --> 00:15:36.527
- I'm curious.
- 00:15:36.861 --> 00:15:38.095
- The dnc recently conducted their post 2024 election autopsy.
- 00:15:38.095 --> 00:15:42.400
- The report was, fascinating to look at,
- 00:15:42.400 --> 00:15:46.003
- But then we watch what's unfolding in the news,
- 00:15:46.003 --> 00:15:47.905
- Like in maine with their senate candidate, plattner.
- 00:15:47.905 --> 00:15:50.708
- It seems like they're incapable
- 00:15:50.708 --> 00:15:52.309
- Of learning from their past mistakes,
- 00:15:52.309 --> 00:15:55.413
- Or they just think they're powerful enough
- 00:15:55.413 --> 00:15:57.314
- With their control of the media to drive their opinions.
- 00:15:57.314 --> 00:15:59.550
- I'm not sure what.
- 00:15:59.550 --> 00:16:00.818
- How do you read that?
- 00:16:00.818 --> 00:16:01.886
- Stubborn determination?
- 00:16:01.886 --> 00:16:04.288
- Allen, this is why i love you.
- 00:16:04.288 --> 00:16:05.756
- Because you're like, so kind.
- 00:16:05.756 --> 00:16:07.191
- Like, basically,
- 00:16:07.191 --> 00:16:07.758
- You just did
- 00:16:07.758 --> 00:16:08.125
- The whole
- 00:16:08.125 --> 00:16:08.926
- Bless your heart to the democrats
- 00:16:08.926 --> 00:16:10.494
- By saying their audit is fascinating to look like.
- 00:16:10.494 --> 00:16:12.897
- Look at.
- 00:16:12.897 --> 00:16:13.964
- That's like saying my seventh grade son's abandoned
- 00:16:13.964 --> 00:16:16.333
- Science project is fascinating.
- 00:16:16.333 --> 00:16:17.868
- Look like like it's interesting, even tells us nothing
- 00:16:17.868 --> 00:16:20.604
- Other than the person who conducted it and authored it.
- 00:16:20.604 --> 00:16:23.774
- Is bad at their job, put in zero effort,
- 00:16:23.774 --> 00:16:25.843
- And still somehow want to get credit for it.
- 00:16:25.843 --> 00:16:27.711
- That audit is a disgrace and it tells you something.
- 00:16:27.711 --> 00:16:30.281
- When the head of the dnc, ken martin,
- 00:16:30.281 --> 00:16:32.550
- I didn't even want to release it and said
- 00:16:32.550 --> 00:16:34.318
- Publicly on the number of podcast is
- 00:16:34.318 --> 00:16:36.087
- Or as recently as april
- 00:16:36.087 --> 00:16:37.321
- That he wouldn't be releasing it because it was shoddy,
- 00:16:37.321 --> 00:16:40.424
- It wasn't fact checked, it was incomplete.
- 00:16:40.424 --> 00:16:42.560
- And it now has disclaimers all over it,
- 00:16:42.560 --> 00:16:44.495
- Because the democrats can't do anything more than try
- 00:16:44.495 --> 00:16:47.498
- To distance themselves from its findings. ridiculous.
- 00:16:47.498 --> 00:16:49.834
- But to that point,
- 00:16:49.834 --> 00:16:51.102
- You know, one of the findings that was included is they
- 00:16:51.102 --> 00:16:53.404
- They need to do better at attracting,
- 00:16:53.404 --> 00:16:55.606
- Rural, you know, residents and attracting men.
- 00:16:55.606 --> 00:16:58.209
- So here's the grand plattner,
- 00:16:58.209 --> 00:17:00.044
- You know, so i guess he's allegedly
- 00:17:00.044 --> 00:17:01.712
- This kind of masculine figure up in maine.
- 00:17:01.712 --> 00:17:04.448
- He's got an oyster farm and a number of tattoos.
- 00:17:04.448 --> 00:17:07.284
- But then if you kind of look beneath the,
- 00:17:07.284 --> 00:17:09.353
- The surface, a little bit, you find out that his, agrarian
- 00:17:09.353 --> 00:17:12.823
- Or kind of in,
- 00:17:12.823 --> 00:17:14.592
- Industrial background has been supported by his parents.
- 00:17:14.592 --> 00:17:17.261
- He actually comes from money,
- 00:17:17.261 --> 00:17:18.462
- And he's got a number of very questionable decisions,
- 00:17:18.462 --> 00:17:21.532
- Not just in terms of the tattoo he's got on his body,
- 00:17:21.532 --> 00:17:23.701
- But the comments he made online is a lot of really weird stuff.
- 00:17:23.701 --> 00:17:27.204
- But this is what happens when the democrats
- 00:17:27.204 --> 00:17:28.939
- Kind of embrace the bernie sanders aoc wing of the party.
- 00:17:28.939 --> 00:17:32.276
- His ideology is apparently enough
- 00:17:32.276 --> 00:17:33.911
- To overlook a number of very troubling personal, decisions.
- 00:17:33.911 --> 00:17:38.382
- And so we'll kind of see how it shakes out.
- 00:17:38.382 --> 00:17:40.017
- But the democrats are going to
- 00:17:40.017 --> 00:17:40.951
- Want to own that brand in november.
- 00:17:40.951 --> 00:17:42.753
- I think the republicans are comfortable with that.
- 00:17:42.753 --> 00:17:46.690
- Well, we've
- 00:17:47.024 --> 00:17:47.958
- Mentioned fraud stealing illegal already,
- 00:17:47.958 --> 00:17:50.594
- But it continues to dominate headlines.
- 00:17:50.594 --> 00:17:52.463
- Trump has assigned jd vance some responsibilities.
- 00:17:52.463 --> 00:17:55.366
- If he can clean it up, there is some headway.
- 00:17:55.366 --> 00:17:58.302
- You know, at least in minnesota, the health care fraud schemes
- 00:17:58.302 --> 00:18:01.005
- Have been exposed and maybe even some hint of prosecution.
- 00:18:01.005 --> 00:18:04.642
- Are we really going to make a dent in this,
- 00:18:04.642 --> 00:18:06.110
- Or does it just drive headlines for a little bit
- 00:18:06.110 --> 00:18:07.845
- And everybody's snouts going to stay in the trough.
- 00:18:07.845 --> 00:18:09.914
- And we're going to keep hemorrhaging money.
- 00:18:09.914 --> 00:18:13.417
- I think it is going to make a dent.
- 00:18:13.417 --> 00:18:15.052
- I think when you look at the last
- 00:18:15.052 --> 00:18:16.253
- Cabinet meeting,
- 00:18:16.253 --> 00:18:17.288
- Literally every agency was talking
- 00:18:17.288 --> 00:18:19.690
- About their efforts to prosecute fraud.
- 00:18:19.690 --> 00:18:22.092
- It was almost like playing
- 00:18:22.092 --> 00:18:23.160
- The price is right, like they just kept bidding
- 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:24.895
- A higher number of how much fraud
- 00:18:24.895 --> 00:18:26.297
- They've been able to identify.
- 00:18:26.297 --> 00:18:27.464
- Kelly loeffler with the small business administration.
- 00:18:27.464 --> 00:18:30.000
- So they turned over 22 billion in terms of fraudulent loans
- 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.437
- Back to the treasury.
- 00:18:33.437 --> 00:18:34.638
- But she said that was actually just part of a 200 billion,
- 00:18:34.638 --> 00:18:37.374
- Amount that they've discovered.
- 00:18:37.374 --> 00:18:38.475
- And she kind of detailed
- 00:18:38.475 --> 00:18:39.510
- The lack of integrity in those processes.
- 00:18:39.510 --> 00:18:41.545
- So it's all kind of just common ground
- 00:18:41.545 --> 00:18:43.113
- And just out on the show
- 00:18:43.113 --> 00:18:44.148
- You what a difference a year and a half makes.
- 00:18:44.148 --> 00:18:47.284
- In december of 2024.
- 00:18:47.284 --> 00:18:48.752
- So after the election in which donald trump had been,
- 00:18:48.752 --> 00:18:51.488
- You know, i know what to to be the next president.
- 00:18:51.488 --> 00:18:53.023
- But before he took office, the guy
- 00:18:53.023 --> 00:18:54.692
- That was the head of medicaid services
- 00:18:54.692 --> 00:18:56.260
- For the biden administration wrote a letter to all 50 states.
- 00:18:56.260 --> 00:18:59.363
- This is december of 2024.
- 00:18:59.363 --> 00:19:00.631
- He said, hey, states,
- 00:19:00.631 --> 00:19:01.732
- We don't care
- 00:19:01.732 --> 00:19:02.666
- If you think the people on your medicaid
- 00:19:02.666 --> 00:19:03.734
- Rolls have committed fraud or are committing fraud,
- 00:19:03.734 --> 00:19:06.203
- You're not allowed to remove them from the rolls.
- 00:19:06.203 --> 00:19:08.572
- This is official document from the federal government.
- 00:19:08.572 --> 00:19:11.375
- So consider that you had the biden
- 00:19:11.375 --> 00:19:13.344
- Officials saying, don't take anybody out the rolls.
- 00:19:13.344 --> 00:19:15.246
- No matter if they're fraudulent.
- 00:19:15.246 --> 00:19:16.347
- So now you have at eight at cabinet meetings,
- 00:19:16.347 --> 00:19:18.849
- Every agency had, let's say, and listen, here's
- 00:19:18.849 --> 00:19:20.784
- Everything we're doing to stop the fraud.
- 00:19:20.784 --> 00:19:22.686
- I do think it's making a very positive difference.
- 00:19:22.686 --> 00:19:25.155
- You know, it's one of the things the trump
- 00:19:25.155 --> 00:19:26.390
- Administration is trying to do to help get this,
- 00:19:26.390 --> 00:19:28.492
- Balanced budget in place, try to get, you know, kind of a
- 00:19:28.492 --> 00:19:31.428
- So, stranglehold on fiscal sovereignty and responsibility.
- 00:19:31.428 --> 00:19:34.932
- And i think it's something
- 00:19:34.932 --> 00:19:36.000
- That quite honestly polled well for republicans.
- 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:37.501
- So i think you're going to continue
- 00:19:37.501 --> 00:19:38.602
- To hear them talk about it.
- 00:19:38.602 --> 00:19:39.737
- And it's obviously something
- 00:19:39.737 --> 00:19:40.671
- The democrats don't want anything to do.
- 00:19:40.671 --> 00:19:41.772
- It's one of the reasons
- 00:19:41.772 --> 00:19:42.573
- Why republicans were doing fairly
- 00:19:42.573 --> 00:19:43.674
- Well in the poll
- 00:19:43.674 --> 00:19:44.808
- In the california gubernatorial primary,
- 00:19:44.808 --> 00:19:46.577
- Because they said, look, we're going to stop the fraud.
- 00:19:46.577 --> 00:19:48.512
- And people even in california said,
- 00:19:48.512 --> 00:19:49.913
- We agree with that. and democrats are, frankly,
- 00:19:49.913 --> 00:19:51.782
- Don't have the courage to say that.
- 00:19:51.782 --> 00:19:53.817
- Well, i've got an idea.
- 00:19:53.817 --> 00:19:54.752
- I want to
- 00:19:54.752 --> 00:19:55.452
- Turn all the irs auditors around
- 00:19:55.452 --> 00:19:57.054
- And point them at the fraudsters,
- 00:19:57.054 --> 00:19:58.856
- And we pay no
- 00:19:58.856 --> 00:19:59.990
- Income tax until they've cut that fraud level by 50%.
- 00:19:59.990 --> 00:20:03.594
- Then they can reengage.
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- They can get any support for that.
- 00:20:05.362 --> 00:20:06.864
- Well, i just want to be very clear.
- 00:20:07.665 --> 00:20:09.233
- If you work for the irs, what you heard is alan jackson
- 00:20:09.233 --> 00:20:11.502
- Saying he didn't plan on pay any taxes anytime soon.
- 00:20:11.502 --> 00:20:13.570
- You did not hear eric egger saying that.
- 00:20:13.570 --> 00:20:15.639
- And, you know, listen.
- 00:20:15.639 --> 00:20:17.041
- But, alan jackson, i wish you the best of luck
- 00:20:17.041 --> 00:20:19.610
- With that initiative. and again, that is an alan jackson thing.
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- If you're working for the irs, appreciate the support.
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- Eric, thanks for your time today.
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- Ali. you're the best. thank you. great to see you.
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- It's always good.
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- We'll be right back in just a moment.
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- Thank you for taking the time to send your emails.
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- Your thoughts and opinions are always a highlight.
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- Martha from durham, north carolina, wrote
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- I've been thinking that the reason people
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- Aren't speaking up about sin is because we have all sinned,
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- And we don't want to be the one to cast the first stone,
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- As we don't want the stones cast against us.
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- Where does one start?
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- Well,
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- I don't disagree with your premise,
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- But i think it's a bit more fundamental to that.
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- It isn't that we stand up against sinners.
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- I think we start out by saying there is such a thing as sin,
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- Identifying those boundaries that god has presented to us,
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- And then we begin to work with our own behavior modification.
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- But we've had for far too long.
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- Even within the church is a reluctance to say that sin
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- Exists.
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- It's as if god has lost his mind and all of his boundaries
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- Have evaporated.
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- We've created some false god in the new testament
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- That doesn't reflect the god of the hebrew bible.
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- We've got to change.
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- Joyce from michigan said, i have a question that i would
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- Like your perspective on because i can't figure this out.
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- Detroit had its motor city pride celebration,
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- And the whole month of june is gay pride month.
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- It's perfectly acceptable for the gays to celebrate
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- And no one bats an eye.
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- Why can't a group of christians celebrate christian pride?
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- Well, joyce, i have good news.
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- The tennessee legislature and the governor of tennessee
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- Have made june nuclear family month in tennessee.
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- We're celebrating the nuclear family
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- Of of a father and a mother or their biological children,
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- Or if their family includes adoptive children
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- Or foster children.
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- We're celebrating in tennessee and not just here.
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- They're doing the same thing in arkansas, alabama, indiana.
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- There is momentum growing.
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- There is good news.
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- Let's celebrate.
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- Folks, god's moving in the earth.
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- Let's go with it. good night. god bless.
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