Brandon Tatum joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.
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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Election Integrity | Allen Jackson Now | June 15, 2026
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- One of the most basic responsibilities of government
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- Is protecting the rights and safety of its citizens.
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- We expect law enforcement to keep order, prosecutors
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- To uphold the law, and elected officials to ensure
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- That every person is treated equally under the law,
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- Regardless of their politics, beliefs or background.
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- Well, those expectations,
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- They form the foundation of a functioning society.
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- But events in saint paul, minnesota, well,
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- They're causing many americans to question
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- Whether those principles are being applied equally.
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- Earlier this year, dozens of anti-police protesters
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- That entered city's church
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- During a sunday worship service and disrupted the gathering.
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- These agitators interrupted prayer.
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- They shouted political slogans.
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- Confronted members of the congregation.
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- They frightened the children, transformed
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- What should have been a peaceful gathering of worship
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- Into a scene of confrontation and intimidation.
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- Former cnn host don lemon well, he was among those present,
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- And he gleefully livestreamed portions of the disruption.
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- The city attorney announced that her office would not pursue
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- Charges against the protesters.
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- So let me get this straight.
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- In minnesota, paid agitators could enter a church service,
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- Interrupted worship, frightened
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- Children and intimidate families without facing
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- Any consequences from local authorities.
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- If a group of protesters entered a mosque during prayer,
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- What city officials have responded differently?
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- And if local governments are unwilling to defend
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- The rights of christians gathered peacefully for worship,
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- Just who will?
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- Well, the hard truth is our politics are reflecting
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- The heart of the people of faith.
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- As a culture, we've made peace with the disdain
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- For authority and truth.
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- We have a culture that wants to tell us
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- That we determine what's true.
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- Yet no one can define my truth.
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- Folks, that's an irrational statement.
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- This subjective truth is manifested
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- When violence is carried out on the streets of major cities
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- Against law enforcement by those who support
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- Criminal actors who are here illegally.
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- We have elected officials.
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- We have city mayors
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- Escalating lawlessness in their own communities.
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- They push to defund the police, to completely eradicate ice.
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- As a culture, we have truly cast off restraint.
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- And sadly, the church shares in some of the responsibility.
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- We have tolerated some things that i do not believe
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- Should be tolerated.
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- Fact i would submit to you the church must stand up
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- And champion law and order.
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- We must make a distinction between legal and illegal
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- And stop accommodating a secular culture.
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- The evidence of false expressions of truth.
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- It's present all around us.
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- It's not always easy to process what we hear and what we see.
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- It can be very disorienting.
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- New york democrats recently passed a bill
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- That would remove the words mother and father
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- From parts of state law.
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- Under the new bill that targets
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- Child custody and parental laws.
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- The word mother now becomes gestating parent
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- And the word father now becomes non gestating parent.
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- Democrats who drafted the legislation claimed the wording.
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- The wording shift would promote inclusivity.
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- I think it promotes confusion.
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- Meanwhile, in california, officials at the pomona
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- Unified school district, they handed $300,000
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- In taxpayer money to the pomona pride center.
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- It's an organization that pushes lgbtq programing on children.
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- Schools in the district are using gender support plans,
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- Funneling children into secret counseling services.
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- These plans treat parents as obstacles,
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- With sections in the plan
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- Specifically targeting so-called unsupportive parents.
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- I think it's important that we maintain in our imagination
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- That on both a global and local scale, good and evil exist.
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- Well, the good news is god's moving in the earth.
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- People will come up to me frequently
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- When i make that statement, say, how can you say that?
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- I don't see god moving.
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- Well, here are a few recent items
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- That we should be grateful about.
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- While many states are celebrating june as pride month,
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- There are other states choosing instead
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- To designate the month as a time
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- To focus on traditional families
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- Rather than on the lgbtq agenda.
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- Alabama's governor, mark june, is a month to celebrate homes
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- With stable parents.
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- He dubbed it strong families month, adding
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- That strong families led by a father and mother
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- Give children
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- The structure and discipline necessary for success.
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- The governors of indiana and my home state of tennessee,
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- They declare june as nuclear family month to celebrate units
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- Made up of one husband, one wife,
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- And then the biological children
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- Or any adopted or foster children in that home.
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- Arkansas governor sarah huckabee sanders
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- Well, she's formally declared june as fidelity month,
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- Declaring that fostering fidelity to god, family,
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- And community supports a healthy and stable society.
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- God is moving in the earth, and we must remember that
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- It's important
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- Because if you don't remember those expressions
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- Of the power, grace, and mercy of god,
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- Then when you bump into a fresh challenge,
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- You're ill prepared to have the confidence to say,
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- God can deliver me.
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- My advice to
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- You is start keeping a good news list.
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- If you're not keeping a good news list, you're missing out.
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- You can start at your own personal arena with the things
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- You see and work out from there to state, local, national,
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- Global issues.
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- Every time you acknowledge
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- The goodness of god in your life,
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- You recalibrate one notch more fully towards the lord.
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- And among all the chaos and confusion
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- Of the busy news cycle,
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- With the media framing mainstream narrative
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- On what we as viewers should focus on,
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- I think it's important that we take a step back
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- And appreciate the season we're in.
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- There are opportunities ahead.
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- God, opportunities.
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- In a moment, we'll be joined by the host
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- Of the officer tatum show, brandon tatum.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- Well, tonight
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- We're joined by former police officer brandon tatum.
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- Welcome back to the show, brandon.
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- Thanks for having me back.
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- Brandon, we have all been watching
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- The recent california elections.
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- I think with some curiosity and then a good dose
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- Of healthy skepticism.
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- You know, after the election
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- This year, rahman was so far behind,
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- I thought she was going to concede.
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- But they decided to keep counting votes.
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- And mysteriously,
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- They found enough to put her in the lead,
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- Or at least to keep her in the election.
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- How do we watch that and maintain any credibility?
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- Well, i think it's pretty obvious to the person
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- That's open minded best that believes in fairness.
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- And it has two eyes to see what's going on.
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- I mean, i think that the biggest issue
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- Wasn't necessarily spencer pratt, because, you know,
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- I thought that karen bass
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- Would lead, obviously, because that's a heavily democrat city.
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- But to watch nithya rahman surge
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- After the election is insane to me.
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- And it's interesting because if you look at the curve
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- Of the voting that came in on the day of the election, plus
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- The million votes, everybody had an equal curve going across.
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- Karen bass was a little higher.
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- Spencer pratt was a little lower,
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- But the curve was equal except nithya rahman.
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- It seems two three days after the election,
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- She jumped tremendously.
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- And then her natural curve continued, which?
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- Which alludes to the fact
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- That if all of them were fair, in my opinion,
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- If they were all fair,
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- We would see a natural curve for all three candidates,
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- And therefore nithya rahman would have not overcome
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- Enough votes to take spencer pratt out.
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- But because of that jump, which i think is complete fraud,
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- That allowed her to barely skate through and knock
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- Spencer pratt out of the race by just a few thousand votes.
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- And we've seen videos and i posted on my social media.
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- We've seen videos where they're signing up
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- Homeless people,
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- Giving them a name and an address and everything in
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- Order to be a particular voter that exists on a voter roll.
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- And these things are clear.
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- There's evidence of them, and we know this to be
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- A fact that they cheat and manipulate these elections.
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- And so i think the public should be frustrated.
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- But also there is a lot of people
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- That voted for karen bass and the arraignment.
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- There's a lot of people that don't want change in l.a.
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- There's a lot of people
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- That want to continue the status quo and and let these people
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- Who i think are devils run their city into the ground.
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- Yeah, i think you're right.
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- Well, in minnesota, there have been dozens of anti
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- Ice protesters
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- That have avoided state criminal charges
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- After they stormed a minnesota church.
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- We watched the videos of it.
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- They intruded in a church, disrupted a worship service.
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- And now the local officials say
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- They're not going to press any charges.
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- You're a former police officer.
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- How do you respond to something like that?
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- Well, pastor jackson is very hurt, is very harmful
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- To law enforcement as a profession.
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- When you go out every day, you have laws
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- That are on the books, you enforce those laws,
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- And then the prosecutors do nothing about it.
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- And it's a two tier system, because i can almost bet
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- Everything i own did if they went into a mosque
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- And did this very same thing,
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- We would not see people getting off.
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- They would be going to jail.
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- They would be plastered all over the media,
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- Shamed in front of the world.
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- And so i think it's a two tier system,
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- But it is frustrating as law enforcement officers
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- That they hold you accountable to enforcing these laws.
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- But then when you enforce these,
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- If it's if it's not beneficial politically,
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- Then they act as if they don't exist.
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- So i really wish that we would just adhere to the law
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- Going into a, church facility which is trespassing,
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- Disrupting the service, which is disorderly conduct
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- And, and a myriad of other things
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- They may have done while they were inside.
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- They should be held accountable.
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- And because it's on the law, why can't we do that?
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- And that's the thing that frustrate me
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- The most, is that
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- It's on the books that the law enforcement
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- Officers spend that time enforcement
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- And the prosecutors uphold their end of it
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- Law. headlines this week have
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- Been largely dominated by the events
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- Surrounding the trial of carmelo anthony.
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- He was convicted of murdering another
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- Young man in a stabbing incident.
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- Again, you're a native texan.
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- Maybe add your perspective
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- To what we've been watching in that it's confusing.
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- Yeah, it's confusing and it's very sad.
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- The state
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- That we're in in this country, especially from members
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- Of the black community,
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- And i'm not saying
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- It's all people in the black community,
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- But the ones that you see on television
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- And the ones you see online, celebrities lying
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- About this situation, all because of race.
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- The biggest perpetuating
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- Of racism in this situation seems to be on the carmelo
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- Anthony side.
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- There is no way a person with a connected brain stem
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- And believe in fairness,
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- Will listen to that trial and witness testimony.
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- Mind you, witnesses were also black
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- And come to the conclusion that this is about race
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- Or come to the conclusion
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- That this was unfair justice under the law.
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- And it's, you know, these things that frustrate me.
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- You know, i grew up in texas. i ran track.
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- I know what track culture is.
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- And everybody who lived there know what it is.
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- You don't go underneath another team's tent.
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- And then once the team asked you to leave,
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- You refused to leave.
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- You know, you become aggressive.
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- You take a knife and stabbed somebody
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- In the heart and kill them at a track meet.
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- That's not normal, is not acceptable.
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- And i would wish that the people
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- That were at that protest and for,
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- Carmelo anthony would have been supportive of him
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- Before he committed a murder.
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- But many of us have seen the videotape of a mother
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- Who was clearly distraught,
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- Talking about the messaging she would give her sons.
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- I know you have two sons.
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- What's your messaging to them?
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- I suspect it's different than what she was saying.
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- Oh, 1,000%, you know, don't commit crimes.
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- Be a good person.
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- Walk away.
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- There's, you know, live to fight another day.
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- I guess if you if somebody is going to,
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- You know, attack
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- You or something like that, you can defend yourself, but
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- Don't put yourself in situations that are avoidable.
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- That's going to cause you to get into a confrontation
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- With somebody, be the bigger person.
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- I mean, but the simple, the simplicity of it
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- Is that do not commit crimes and do not be in
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- Someone's tent that don't belong to you.
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- And when somebody asks you to move,
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- You know that you're wrong.
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- Then just move out of the way.
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- Go tell somebody else in authority
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- To handle the situation.
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- If you feel like is going to get out of control.
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- You know, the biggest thing is just don't stab a kid
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- In a, in a heart
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- Because you guys get into a verbal confrontation.
- 00:12:47.726 --> 00:12:50.863
- You know, at the end of the day, to live peacefully,
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- We have to find a way to respect one another.
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- Work together with one another.
- 00:12:55.234 --> 00:12:56.768
- Cooperate with one another.
- 00:12:56.768 --> 00:12:58.637
- Where are the voices for that going to come from?
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- Because i don't see him coming from the media.
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- They're not putting those clips up.
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- How do we build those bridges
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- That we need to actually flourish together?
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- Well, pastor jackson, i'm hoping that there is going
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- To come from the church, the people that believe in god,
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- The people that read the bible and that have a moral standard
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- To say, look, let's come together on truth.
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- Let's not come together on race.
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- Let's not come together on biases.
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- Let's come together on
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- What is true, what is good, and what is acceptable to god.
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- And when we do that,
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- I think we can all come together and grieve.
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- To a certain degree, the life of the young man
- 00:13:32.704 --> 00:13:35.007
- Who had who had been stabbed to death.
- 00:13:35.007 --> 00:13:36.942
- And then also the young man who ruined his life.
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- Hopefully he can find christ and rebuild
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- Whatever's left of what he has. you know, he's not.
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- He still have a life.
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- You know,
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- He may have to spend 30 plus years in prison,
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- But he still is going to have an opportunity to get out.
- 00:13:49.121 --> 00:13:51.023
- He still can communicate and be useful and, you know,
- 00:13:51.023 --> 00:13:54.159
- Be be, you know, preach the gospel even in incarcerated.
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- So, you know, i wish that we could come together.
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- Unfortunately, pastor jackson,
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- I think there's a lot of people that don't.
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- And i feel like that we have to be able to separate
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- The wheat from the tear, for lack of better terms,
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- And work with those who genuinely want to work together
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- And not let polarization split us apart.
- 00:14:12.477 --> 00:14:14.546
- But there's a group, a remnant of people
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- Who want to work together,
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- Who want to see the brighter side,
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- Who want to do better for society.
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- And i'd say drown out the noise.
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- Let's focus on the ones who really want something,
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- Something positive to happen in this. work towards that.
- 00:14:25.257 --> 00:14:27.592
- Amen.
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- Well, brandon, we need to take a short break
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- And stand by for another segment.
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- Yes, sir.
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- We're back
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- Now with the host of the officer tatum show, brandon tatum.
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- Brandon, jesus told us that as we approach
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- The end of the age, that lawlessness would increase.
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- Seems to me we see expressions of that
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- From coast to coast and border to border.
- 00:15:04.864 --> 00:15:07.266
- It's been with us a long time.
- 00:15:07.266 --> 00:15:08.334
- We had sanctuary cities that ignored federal laws.
- 00:15:08.334 --> 00:15:10.937
- We saw the protest to defund the police.
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- We don't want we didn't want any borders or border security.
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- We don't like ice.
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- We have to come back to a place where we're willing to submit
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- To the rule of law and to celebrate those men
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- And women that walk or run towards danger on our behalf.
- 00:15:24.450 --> 00:15:28.254
- What can the people watching do in their communities
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- To let the people
- 00:15:31.491 --> 00:15:32.625
- Working in law enforcement to know they're not alone,
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- That there are people who support them?
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- I think we have to use our voices, don't we?
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- 1,000%.
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- I think one of the most prominent things
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- That, affected me
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- In a positive way
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- In the community or from the community
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- Was every time
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- That i was on a traffic stop or i was in a store,
- 00:15:47.774 --> 00:15:51.477
- You know, taking a short break
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- When people would come up to me
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- And say thank you for your service.
- 00:15:54.781 --> 00:15:57.383
- Although i couldn't express how much it meant to me
- 00:15:57.383 --> 00:15:59.752
- At the time to them.
- 00:15:59.752 --> 00:16:00.987
- Obviously i want to be a tough guy and i got to be on guard.
- 00:16:00.987 --> 00:16:03.489
- But it really changed my heart because you deal
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- With a lot of people who are dealing with
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- The worst day of their lives.
- 00:16:10.630 --> 00:16:11.631
- Some of them are evil
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- And some of them just are in unfortunate situations.
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- And you see a lot of traumatic things and you wonder,
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- Is there anybody left in society to have dignity or care
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- About things that are good?
- 00:16:21.407 --> 00:16:23.342
- And when someone would come up
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- To you and say thank you for your service,
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- It reestablished, you know, kind of my faith in humanity.
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- And so i think that when you have an opportunity
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- To talk to a police officer, someone you know,
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- Even if they're
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- On duty, off duty, and you tell them how much
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- You appreciate their service, it means a lot.
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- Also, when you have an opportunity
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- To stand up for police officers that are doing right.
- 00:16:42.295 --> 00:16:45.198
- Obviously there are some that do not do the right thing.
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- You got to call them out.
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- But when you have an opportunity to stand up for ones
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- Who are doing right, then do that. use your voice.
- 00:16:49.802 --> 00:16:52.672
- The other people can come in and bash and belittle
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- And say negative things
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- About people who are in law enforcement.
- 00:16:57.910 --> 00:16:59.946
- Why can't you say positive things?
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- So be bold enough to stand up for what's right
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- While these other people are standing up for what's wrong.
- 00:17:05.718 --> 00:17:08.187
- So some of those things can be contributing factors.
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- And i say also,
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- If you are a young person and you feel like god
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- Is calling you to serve, please join a law enforcement agency
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- Because law enforcement needs really good people.
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- Who and i my opinion, who have faith
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- And who are willing to treat people
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- With dignity and fairness.
- 00:17:25.238 --> 00:17:26.606
- We need influx of those people
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- Because we got a lot of good people
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- That have been police officers for years, or people
- 00:17:30.543 --> 00:17:32.311
- That are in law enforcement for years.
- 00:17:32.311 --> 00:17:33.679
- They're leaving a profession because it's gone downhill.
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- There's a new generation that i believe
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- God is wanting to bring up.
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- That's going to be service members that can really help us.
- 00:17:39.819 --> 00:17:42.722
- You know,
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- Maintain
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- Laws and, and be fruitful in the streets of our cities.
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- And so if you that's another part,
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- You could be a contributing factors
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- That you can join and be a part of the difference maker.
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- Amen.
- 00:17:55.635 --> 00:17:56.869
- Well, a judge ruled recently.
- 00:17:56.869 --> 00:17:58.504
- Something to me seems so bizarre.
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- It's the dicarlo's brown case.
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- He's the man some of you remember.
- 00:18:02.175 --> 00:18:03.376
- He stabbed a young woman on a train in charlotte.
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- He's taken to court.
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- He has a rant directed at the judge,
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- And the judge declares him incompetent to stand trial.
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- He's going into treatment.
- 00:18:12.351 --> 00:18:15.021
- Something about that seems inadequate for the crime
- 00:18:15.021 --> 00:18:17.523
- That was committed. what do you think?
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- Well, there's two aspects to it, pastor jackson, that, like,
- 00:18:20.493 --> 00:18:23.496
- There's an incompetent to stand trial,
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- Which is where you can go and get a person
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- Evaluated and get them on meds, and they still have to face
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- Trial.
- 00:18:32.371 --> 00:18:33.406
- The difference between incompetency to face trial
- 00:18:33.406 --> 00:18:35.975
- And a person that pleads insanity is,
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- I think people need to know the difference,
- 00:18:39.178 --> 00:18:40.546
- Because pleading insanity means that you're not.
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- You won't be held accountable
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- Because you're mentally incapable.
- 00:18:43.816 --> 00:18:46.085
- Not being able to stand trial just means
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- That you're in a period of time
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- Where you cannot adequately defend yourself,
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- But there will be a time where you can
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- Which they will get you to a facility.
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- They will,
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- Get you on medication,
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- Get you to a place where you are adequate to stand trial.
- 00:18:58.297 --> 00:19:01.367
- So it's
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- Not an inevitable, situation
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- Where he's never going to be held accountable.
- 00:19:03.803 --> 00:19:05.771
- I'm glad that it was articulated in this fashion
- 00:19:05.771 --> 00:19:08.074
- Because he will be held accountable at some point.
- 00:19:08.074 --> 00:19:10.743
- And and i'll say this, too, because i think the,
- 00:19:10.743 --> 00:19:12.845
- The natural reflex is for us to feel very upset about this.
- 00:19:12.845 --> 00:19:16.649
- But i respect a judge that will make the call,
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- Because what you don't want to do
- 00:19:19.952 --> 00:19:21.320
- Is go through a trial and then he ends up
- 00:19:21.320 --> 00:19:23.456
- Getting off completely
- 00:19:23.456 --> 00:19:25.057
- Because the jury feels sympathy for what he did, or they later
- 00:19:25.057 --> 00:19:28.728
- Determined that he wasn't fit and they went through the trial.
- 00:19:28.728 --> 00:19:31.330
- And anyway,
- 00:19:31.330 --> 00:19:32.498
- So i like for a judge to establish that up front,
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- Make sure that they've done
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- Everything that they can to make sure
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- He's qualified and ready and proven to be ready,
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- And then make him face the music.
- 00:19:40.973 --> 00:19:43.009
- Therefore, there's no question
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- That when he's found guilty of his crimes
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- And they have sentencing that he was adequately there,
- 00:19:47.113 --> 00:19:50.883
- He was functional.
- 00:19:50.883 --> 00:19:52.084
- He knew what was going on, and his counsel represented him,
- 00:19:52.084 --> 00:19:54.687
- And he was held accountable according to the law.
- 00:19:54.687 --> 00:19:57.123
- That's a great way to frame it.
- 00:19:57.757 --> 00:19:59.225
- We can be grateful for judges doing the right thing.
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- One last quick question, brandon.
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- A few days we're celebrating our 250th anniversary as a nation.
- 00:20:03.496 --> 00:20:07.266
- A lot of people critical,
- 00:20:07.266 --> 00:20:08.200
- But i think we live in a remarkable place
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- And have much to be grateful for.
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- What are you thankful for as we approach july 4th?
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- Well, i'm thankful that we have an opportunity
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- To openly worship god, have an opportunity
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- To believe in jesus,
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- To have an opportunity to go to church and fellowship
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- With the saints for lack of better terms,
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- Speaking in biblical form.
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- But i'm grateful for that,
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- Because without that access and availability,
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- We would have nothing in this country.
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- We wouldn't have the morals that we have,
- 00:20:34.393 --> 00:20:36.062
- Even though people are crazy.
- 00:20:36.062 --> 00:20:37.330
- But overall, i think we have a very decent,
- 00:20:37.330 --> 00:20:40.266
- More society in comparison to the rest of the world.
- 00:20:40.266 --> 00:20:42.835
- So being able to openly worship,
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- Being able to openly have faith
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- Opens up the doors for all these other things.
- 00:20:46.439 --> 00:20:48.274
- And i'm also excited for freedom.
- 00:20:48.274 --> 00:20:51.544
- Capitalism and the ability to live the american dream.
- 00:20:51.544 --> 00:20:54.947
- And in the country where it is rewarded.
- 00:20:54.947 --> 00:20:57.783
- When you work hard and you do things to serve other people.
- 00:20:57.783 --> 00:21:01.420
- And so i'm grateful for all those things.
- 00:21:01.420 --> 00:21:03.622
- I could go on for 15 minutes to tell you,
- 00:21:03.622 --> 00:21:06.225
- You know, stories and examples of why
- 00:21:06.225 --> 00:21:08.094
- This country is so great and incredible.
- 00:21:08.094 --> 00:21:09.962
- I just wish if i had one prayer that could be answered
- 00:21:09.962 --> 00:21:13.199
- Is, i wish that everybody
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- That lived here in the united states of america
- 00:21:14.600 --> 00:21:16.802
- Could understand and see what a beautiful country we have, and
- 00:21:16.802 --> 00:21:20.473
- To be grateful for it.
- 00:21:20.473 --> 00:21:22.141
- Well, brandon, i thank you for your time today.
- 00:21:23.042 --> 00:21:25.111
- I always appreciate your insights
- 00:21:25.111 --> 00:21:26.545
- When i have a bad day.
- 00:21:26.545 --> 00:21:27.980
- I'll come listen to your content.
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- It puts a smile on my face and hope in my heart.
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- Thanks for what you do.
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- Well, i appreciate that.
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- Thank you for having me on, pastor jackson.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
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- Thank you for spending
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- A few minutes of your day with us, folks.
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- God is moving in the earth.
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- There are many good things to celebrate.
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- Start your good news list.
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- It will help you walk through those seasons when the darkness
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- Seems closer than the light.
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- God will bring us through.
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- Thank you for your time. god bless you.
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- A good night.
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