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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Energy Supply | Allen Jackson Now | May 7, 2026
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- The currency of war is measured by whoever has the best weapons
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- And the best trained men and women
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- To execute the military plans from aircraft carriers
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- And jet fighters to the generals and the supply line troops.
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- The united states has a force like no other.
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- But there's a new currency in the fight with iran
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- That all the world uses.
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- Its oil, the black gold that sold 42 gallons at a time
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- And carried by tanker ships that hold
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- 25 million gallons on each trip.
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- And now that iran's stock of traditional weapons is running
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- Low, they're trying to use oil to have their way.
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- It's been done before, in the 1970s,
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- When opec put an embargo on the u.s.
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- For its support of israel.
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- And again,
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- When iran's revolution brought the ayatollah into power,
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- Oil was weaponized to attack our economy,
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- Just like they're trying to do it now.
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- Now we live in a turbulent world.
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- Any place
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- You put your finger on the globe,
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- It seems there's been a conflict.
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- It's not an easy time to be peaceful.
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- The news cycle is shifting almost minute by minute
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- In a 48 hour time period.
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- We went from the first direct u.s.
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- Iran talks since 1979
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- To a 21 hour marathon negotiation, to a breakdown over
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- Iran's nuclear program,
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- To president trump announcing an immediate u.s.
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- Naval blockade of the strait of hormuz.
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- There are all sorts of dire predictions in the media.
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- There are loud voices saying the economy is going to crater.
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- Here's just a few predictions the media have made.
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- Rising energy costs will push up prices for food goods
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- And daily essentials, straining household budgets.
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- Disruptions to fuel supply could lead to food shortages.
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- The united nations warns more than 32 million
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- People worldwide could be plunged into poverty.
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- But the economic fallout from the iran war,
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- The media and the media are no longer
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- Calling it the iran war.
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- But trump swore, hoping that every negative occurrence
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- Will be blamed on him.
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- Just because we see fearful headlines.
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- Does it mean that we have to lead our lives
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- Dominated by fear?
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- Fear will paralyze you.
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- Fear will freeze you. it'll make you immobile.
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- Now we use the expression about a deer caught
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- In the headlights.
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- It freezes them for a moment.
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- We'll fear that we'll do that to you.
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- Some of us are world class worriers.
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- We have allowed our personalities
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- To be formed around worry.
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- It quite literally defines us.
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- Here's the reality.
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- Worrying doesn't help.
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- I suggest we think about fear as a person without a body.
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- It's a spirit. a spirit of fear.
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- But that spirit unleashed in your thoughts,
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- It can immobilize
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- You. it will
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- Rob you of your strength, your voice, and your courage.
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- Learn to address fear as if it were a person.
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- You know, jeremiah was a prophet in jerusalem
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- Before the babylonians invaded the ministry.
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- God gave jeremiah to preside over.
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- It was during a very difficult season.
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- Jerusalem was being targeted by its enemies
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- And there was no resolution coming from god.
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- Yet even in the midst of the destruction of jerusalem,
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- God took care of jeremiah.
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- God delivered him from enemy after enemy amid horror,
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- Death, destruction, and outright terror.
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- God made a pathway for jeremiah.
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- Well, i believe god's intention for his people
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- Is to flourish during any and every circumstance.
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- Doesn't mean it's always going to be easy or even comfortable.
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- But god has made a way for us.
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- We don't have to be afraid.
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- Don't get caught up in the doom
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- Loop with the voices in the media that monetize fear.
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- I assure you, god is moving and wonderful
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- Things are happening in the earth.
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- There's been a growing church in iran now,
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- Not in the way we would know it,
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- But i believe it's the prayers
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- Of those new believers that has brought
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- The breath of freedom into that land.
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- And my prayer is
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- That god will continue that that it will become a gale.
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- I don't know what the leadership there will look like.
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- It's a muslim nation.
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- But i do believe that it's possible that christians
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- Will have freedom to stand in the public square.
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- Here's some news the mainstream media won't talk about.
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- Christian churches and ministries are gearing up.
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- They're convinced
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- That god is about to do something significant in iran.
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- Bible teams are gathering in armenia
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- Right now, just a stone's throw from the iranian border.
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- They're stocking up on bibles, children's
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- And teens bibles, plus other christian books in farsi,
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- Ready for the moment to blitz the border
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- And distribute them to iranian people.
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- I've got personal friends
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- That have disrupted their lives at home,
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- Armenians that have gone to armenia
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- To set up the way stations, recovery stations
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- For believers that can slip out of iran to be encouraged,
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- Motivated trade and sit back in
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- For the growing church that is emerging in that nation.
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- They're believing that god is going to change
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- Iran, and it's going to affect the entire islamic world.
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- Let's do our part.
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- Let's pray fervently and ask god
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- That freedom come to the people of iran.
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- Let liberty come.
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- Let spiritual freedom come.
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- See, i believe we're in a season of shaking,
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- And the shaking may feel uncomfortable at the moment,
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- But after the shaking, things become visible
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- That simply weren't clear before.
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- It's vital in this season of change, where
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- Competing voices exist, that we as christ followers
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- Watch, listen, think and be prepared to act.
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- God is moving in the earth.
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- Listen, engage and be a part of it.
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- With that, we'll be joined by a man who knows a great deal
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- About the importance of oil
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- And the global supply system infrastructure.
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- He knows a great deal about how to win.
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- Brigham mccown is the senior fellow
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- And the director of initiative on american energy
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- Security at the hudson institute in washington, d.c..
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- He'll join us in just a moment.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- Well, the united states and israel have a weakened iran
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- In ways few people thought could be done so quickly.
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- But that said, iran still has two weapons
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- That need to be addressed
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- Their oil and their enriched uranium.
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- With gas at the pump between 4 and $6 a gallon.
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- All eyes are on the oil right now.
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- Well, the us has begun making safe
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- Pads for the oil that ship through the strait of hormuz.
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- But the supply lines have been disrupted for weeks.
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- Brigham mccown is the expert on this.
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- And he's joining us from the hudson institute tonight.
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- Welcome back to the show sir.
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- Thank you alan i'm so pleasure.
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- I'm so pleased to be back on here with you tonight.
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- Well, i'd like to begin
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- By hearing your thoughts on iran using oil as a weapon.
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- There had been an oversupply of oil
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- Leading into the attack, and oil producers
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- Were even getting anxious about the price
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- Per barrel dropping to perhaps as low as $40 a barrel.
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- Well, now, production is not keeping up
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- With the global demand.
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- But iran has plenty of oil and its massive oil
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- Storage tanks
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- That because they don't get it moving,
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- The corrosion could destroy the tanks.
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- They need the money from that oil sale, don't they?
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- They do need that money from the oil sell.
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- And their biggest backer, china, needs that oil.
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- Iran's number one exporter is china.
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- And if we look at the 20 million barrels a day, the transit
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- Through that strait, 35% of it goes to china alone.
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- When you look at the websites that follow global shipping,
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- You can see more than 100 oil tankers
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- Heading to the us to buy our oil.
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- You know, the president's drill, baby drill.
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- It worked.
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- And now we're getting some of venezuela's oil as well.
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- Does the us have enough of a supply to make up for
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- What's not getting through the strait of hormuz?
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- Yeah, that's a great question.
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- And certainly we're moving 20 million barrels
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- A day from circulation is a big deal.
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- But if we look at ways to bypass the strait
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- And then we remove china's oil from them,
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- We're down less than 4 million net barrels a day
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- To western democracies, to the rest of the world.
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- That's something that can be made up between
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- Venezuela reopening and between additional us production.
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- And we say oil is fungible and it's a global benchmark.
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- And alan, it is.
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- And it's not because oil viscosities and composition
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- Does vary.
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- And that's something important to keep in mind too.
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- But those tankers,
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- Many of them have done u-turns in the middle of the ocean,
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- Now headed to the us.
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- Well, even with our blockade of the strait,
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- China reportedly sent an oil tanker through today.
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- They already buy oil from the us.
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- But how dependent are they on
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- Iran's oil and venezuela's to keep their economy growing?
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- Yes. they're very dependent.
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- And china has sourced, oil at below market prices,
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- Capitalizing on russian oil that's under sanction
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- By purchasing iranian oil, because they don't
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- Recognize the sanctions that the west has put on iran,
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- The world's leading state sponsor of terrorism.
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- 47 years and running, they're out to get oil
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- Wherever they can, as cheaply as they can.
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- And by removing venezuela
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- And now removing iran, it's a huge debt.
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- Like us.
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- They have supplies in bulk storage.
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- This goes on much longer than 90 days.
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- There's a chance the chinese economy could
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- Take a serious tumble, and that wouldn't be bad for us. but,
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- Time is going to tell.
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- Yes. you mentioned the chinese freighter that went through.
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- We'll see if it comes back out and where it's going.
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- Trump has announced the blockade of the strait of hormuz, but
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- In other posts,
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- He said that depending on where the tankers are going,
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- He would be okay with some getting through.
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- So time will tell whether or not this blockade
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- Is actually effective.
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- Well, president trump has been very clear
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- About the need for countries other than the us
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- That are more dependent on oil from iran
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- To put their time, effort
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- And resources toward keeping the strait open.
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- Listen to his comment.
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- And i'm very disappointed in nato.
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- They didn't do this. they weren't there for us.
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- We pay trillions of dollars for data
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- And they weren't there for us.
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- We spent trillions of dollars doing it.
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- And i think that's going to be under very serious examine.
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- Well, it finally looks like
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- France and great britain are going to take
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- Some small steps to keep the strait open.
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- Do you think that will be enough
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- To get the tankers sailing again?
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- Yeah.
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- I think if you put a concerted effort together,
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- The strait can be reopened.
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- It's not a matter of physically
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- Preventing ships through the strait.
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- The issue is the war risk insurance that has to be placed
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- On the ships transiting through iran is is seriously wounded.
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- But they're still dangerous, especially in this day and age
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- Where drones and small rockets can be fired
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- From virtually anywhere.
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- That said, you know,
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- None of the gulf
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- Countries are happy with what iran is doing to attacking
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- Their own infrastructure
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- In these gulf states for no reason at all, other than
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- To try to put pressure on the united states to end this.
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- It's a little bit disappointing that nato has moved too
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- Slowly yet.
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- Frankly, that's not the first time
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- We've seen europe unable
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- To make a decision and move pretty quickly.
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- The president has also said to the europeans,
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- Is your oil coming to get it?
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- You didn't really mean take it.
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- What he meant was you were more dependent
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- On this oil than the united states is.
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- Thank goodness
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- We're not seeing
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- A repeat of the 1970s or even the first gulf war.
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- But europe has to get serious and step up.
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- It's a combination of taking advantage of american goodwill
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- Over a generation and honestly,
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- America's own priorities, which is has led europe
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- To sort of be in this, the state of learned helplessness.
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- We know there are a lot of products
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- That are
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- Dependent on the global supply chain,
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- But nothing is more important than oil
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- For our planes, cars, trucks,
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- And a lot of manufactured products.
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- From what you know about the strait of hormuz,
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- Would we be putting american troops in danger
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- If we tried to control the shipping
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- By taking over car island or some other parts of the coast?
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- I think the risk is, and i've been
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- To the gulf more times, and i would like to
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- Not including during operation desert storm.
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- It's a pretty confined place.
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- And, you know, when you put troops on the ground,
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- Even if you're seizing
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- Car island, which is where iran exports
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- Almost all of their crude oil from
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- The defensive position there is is pretty tough.
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- We say island, it's an island.
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- It's only a couple feet above sea level.
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- It's difficult to protect.
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- If iran wanted to do it
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- And destroy their own infrastructure.
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- They can certainly attack our troops there.
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- I think the better issue is getting a coalition together
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- And making it known to iran that they're not the ones that
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- Can keep an international strait open or shut.
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- But at the same time, that comes with risks.
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- Are we going to put a half $1 billion destroyer
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- In the middle of a strait that is less than 20 miles wide,
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- When iran could throw hundreds of drones at it?
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- This isn't a blue water navy where you can
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- Protect your assets for hundreds of miles.
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- This is a pretty narrow strait.
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- And so there are some tactical and strategic considerations.
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- It'd be great if we could avoid this,
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- But if we had to, we could do what we did in the late
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- 1980s in operation earnest will.
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- And that's forced the strait open
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- Through the reef flagged american ships and u.s.
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- Naval assets and aircraft flying overhead 24 over seven.
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- We'll bring them.
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- We need to take a short break.
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- Can you stay for another segment?
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- I sure can.
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- Send in your thoughts on our conversation
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- We're back now with the hudson institute's director
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- Of initiative on american energy security, brigham mccown.
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- I'm sure you remember the first oil shortage back in the 70s.
- 00:14:23.289 --> 00:14:26.793
- We were importing a third of the oil that we used.
- 00:14:26.793 --> 00:14:28.995
- It left us in a position
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- Of being downstream of anyone who wanted to choke our supply.
- 00:14:30.296 --> 00:14:33.366
- That's exactly what opec did.
- 00:14:33.366 --> 00:14:35.535
- Listen to what president nixon did to try to get the country
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- Through those tough times.
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- I am also asking governors
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- To take steps to reduce highway speed limits to 50mph.
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- This action alone, if it is adopted on a nationwide
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- Basis, could save over 200,000 barrels of oil a day.
- 00:14:52.552 --> 00:14:58.358
- As a second step, i am asking tonight
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- That all gasoline filling stations
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- Closed down their pumps between 9 p.m.
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- Saturday night and midnight sunday every weekend.
- 00:15:07.433 --> 00:15:11.304
- You know, back then, the average car had a v-8 engine
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- And they got 10 to 15 miles per gallon.
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- Today, the average is 27 to 28 miles per gallon.
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- And we're the number one oil producer in the world.
- 00:15:20.513 --> 00:15:23.349
- Well, we have oil security.
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- We can't control the world's
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- Oil traders and the global price per barrel.
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- No one can really control that, can they?
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- No, they really can't because it is a global commodity.
- 00:15:33.226 --> 00:15:36.129
- But two things that i mentioned earlier in the first segment.
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- Oil viscosity, the thickness of it is different.
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- And the sulfur content of it,
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- What we call sweet or sour is different.
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- So american refineries, european refineries,
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- They're set up for different types of crude oil.
- 00:15:51.077 --> 00:15:53.913
- The good news is we're in pretty good shape
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- To take advantage of not only american crude oil,
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- Canadian crude oil and venezuelan crude oil.
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- And that means that we're more resilient and more insulated
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- Than other countries are.
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- And you're right.
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- This isn't 1973, when we can only purchase 8 or 10 gallons.
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- And depending on
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- Whether your license plate ended, an odd or even,
- 00:16:15.435 --> 00:16:18.204
- We are so much better insulated today.
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- But there's more we could do.
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- Or what i call the north american energy powerhouse or
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- Fortress north america to completely say thanks,
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- But no thanks to the rest of the world.
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- You know, as for the safety of the oil
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- Tankers, the average ship carries 2 million barrels.
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- That's enough to supply 40,000 cars for an entire year.
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- But one drone, one missile or torpedo could sink a ship.
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- Do you think the supply lines will need
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- To be guarded from here on out?
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- Whether it's nato or other arab countries?
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- Well, i think if we're continuing
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- To use the strait of hormuz, as long as the middle east remains
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- A tinderbox, we're always going to have those questions.
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- We have many freighters, many tankers.
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- Thousands of them.
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- So that's a little less of a long term concern.
- 00:17:08.754 --> 00:17:12.158
- But what you're already seeing is the saudis and the folks
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- Over at the uae bypassing the strait,
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- East-west pipeline through saudi.
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- That's 7.5 million barrels a day of the 20 that used
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- To go through the strait and a, another pipeline
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- From inside the gulf to fujairah, the united arab
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- Emirates is another million and a half barrels.
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- So we've got eight
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- And a half of that 20 already bypassing strait.
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- We can also ramp up production in alaska.
- 00:17:42.522 --> 00:17:45.825
- The pipeline i used to run up there could produce
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- Four times what it's currently producing.
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- So we have some bandwidth and we have some opportunities.
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- The bottom line is avoiding fragile
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- Areas of the world is a key to energy security.
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- And we are a lot better off today than we were.
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- And even though gasoline.
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- Sorry, i get it. it's too high.
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- Adjusted for inflation,
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- It's actually
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- Lower than it was in 2022.
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- Well, the jerusalem post published a story this week
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- About the gulf states
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- Considering a new pipeline network
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- That would connect the persian gulf
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- To the mediterranean via haifa and israel.
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- I would obviously take some time to build,
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- But what do you think of that as a solution,
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- Or at least a backup for what we do now?
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- Yeah, i think if we look at the gulf states
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- And the area surrounding israel, and we look at the militias
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- That have been attacking israel,
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- If we look at the instability in the middle east for the last
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- Half a century, it all comes back to one country,
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- And that's the rock.
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- If we look at the who, these hezbollah, hamas,
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- They are all backed by iran.
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- This is the common denominator.
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- And isn't it amazing
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- When you have arab states saying,
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- We're willing to build a pipeline
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- And run it through israel in our common interest
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- In order to get oil directly to the mediterranean?
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- I think it's fantastic, and it just shows how far we've come.
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- Well, brilliant.
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- Thank you for your time today.
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- Oil is the only thing i hear people
- 00:19:21.254 --> 00:19:22.688
- Talking about more than the weather.
- 00:19:22.688 --> 00:19:24.857
- Gas prices and whether they're under $4 a gallon.
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- I hope we can have you back later this year.
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- Thank you. i look forward to it.
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- Well, in a moment. your emails.
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- There's a lot to talk about.
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- I'll be right back.
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- I'll be right back.
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- Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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- Just a reminder, if you ever missed
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- A live program, you could always go to aj.
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- Now, dot com. there's a full archive there.
- 00:19:56.890 --> 00:19:58.959
- You can watch them at your leisure.
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- Easy to share with a friend.
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- Thanks for your emails.
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- Libby from virginia wrote my sister and brother in law
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- Just flew home from up north.
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- They didn't have the real id driver's license
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- And they didn't bother taking their passports.
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- They'd driven up, but flew back.
- 00:20:12.839 --> 00:20:14.641
- Well, to get on the plane,
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- They had to jump through hoops, pay a penalty fee
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- Before they were allowed to board the plane.
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- They both immediately got their real ids, which will be mailed.
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- That required a passport, a birth certificate, voter id,
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- Or a utility bill.
- 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:28.655
- Yeah, democrats don't want to require id for voting.
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- Excuse me while i scratch my head.
- 00:20:31.758 --> 00:20:34.895
- Well, i was scratching our head would change it.
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- I think we've got to acknowledge the reality.
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- They are clearly doing everything
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- In their power to promote, encourage and continue
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- Fraudulent voting by people who are not citizens.
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- We cannot accept that is just the price of doing business.
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- It's immoral. let's use our voices.
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- Al from texas ask on an upcoming episode.
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- Could you and or an expert guest
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- Help the rest of us understand the impact of the conflict
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- In the strait of hormuz on u.s.
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- Gas prices?
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- We hear 20% of world oil supply moves through the strait,
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- And our current administration has been moving
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- Towards energy independence.
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- We've heard drill baby drill for almost a decade,
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- But prices at the pump seem far above a 20% increase.
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- How can we get this fixed?
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- Well, based on the show we just had,
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- I think we've done a great deal to fix it.
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- I think the root beneath all of that and the price spikes
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- We see, has a lot more to do with greed
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- And the weakness of human character.
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- And profiteering.
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- I'm not sure that's a government issue.
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- We need a hard change.
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- We need the church to expand our influence
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- So we behave with more character.
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- Barry from tennessee made a suggestion.
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- For a long time
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- We've had bumper stickers that read god bless america.
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- Well, it's time that we turn it around
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- And have a sticker that reads america, bless god.
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- I'd buy a dozen of them and give them
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- To my christian friends.
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- Barry, i think you're on to something.
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- If we would recognize that god is the one who watches over us
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- And secures our future.
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- It would change our attitude.
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- We've been worshiping at the wrong altars.
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- Thanks for the reminder.
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- Well, it's been a privilege to share a few minutes with you.
- 00:22:13.860 --> 00:22:15.796
- God's moving in the earth. we want to be a part of that.
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- God bless you.
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- Good night.
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