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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Founding Fathers | Allen Jackson Now | July 3, 2026

Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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I'm alan jackson.
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I know it's quite a privilege to live in this great country
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Despite the challenges we sometimes face.
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Well, this evening, we'd like to suggest
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That you take a moment to appreciate the wisdom that it
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Took to put the following down on paper 250 years ago.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident,
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That all men are created equal,
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That they are endowed
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By their creator with certain unalienable rights, that among
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These are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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Nothing like this in the history of the world
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That ever been codified into law before that was written.
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People lived only by allegiance to kings, dictators, emperors,
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Or tribal chieftains.
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America is the oldest constitutional
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Republic on earth.
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That's not to say we're perfect.
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We're far from that.
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Our founding fathers were not perfect.
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Our current leaders, they're not perfect.
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Our systems.
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They're not perfect either.
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But if we as a people continue to stand for god's truth,
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If we will choose honor, dignity, and duty
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Over selfishness and invite his holy spirit into our midst,
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As generations of men and women before us have done,
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I believe god will heal our land.
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He will bless us once again with liberty and prosperity.
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Now, some may think being patriotic is out of fashion,
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But i am unapologetically grateful to god for the nation
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In which i was born.
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I'm grateful for the freedoms
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We have, and i will continue to pray for our nation
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To turn towards righteousness, godliness, and purity
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So we might experience that freedom for many years to come.
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Well, joining me now is a good friend, tim barton.
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He's the president of wallbuilders,
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A national, pro-family organization dedicated
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To educating the nation
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About america's true history and our biblical foundations.
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He's also the coauthor of a new book.
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We're going to talk about it a good bit
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Lives, fortunes and sacred.
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Honor the signers of the declaration.
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Damn, it is always good to have you on the program.
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Back in tennessee, a pastor. it's always good to be with you.
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Thanks for having me.
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Every time we're together, i wish i had to pay
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More attention in history class.
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But thank you. for what? your work.
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Tell us about your new book.
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It's a pretty exciting.
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I've taken a walk to the capitol in d.c.
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With you.
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Yeah, and learned a bit of some of this.
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But tell us what you wrote and why.
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It's very timely. as we're getting ready
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To celebrate the 4th of july, 250 years.
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This is a book about our 56 minute sign, the declaration.
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Most americans,
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We know their names, at least some of their names.
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We don't know their stories.
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If we were to go
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Ask an average person on the street,
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Tell me a story about john hancock or sam adams.
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They might know a detail
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Or fact about him, but we don't know their story.
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And part of why it matters is
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Because we don't know their story.
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We've come to believe
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A lot of things about our past that just isn't so.
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And the way you overcome error,
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The way you overcome a lie is with the truth.
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You know the truth, and it sets you free
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When you don't know the truth, it's really hard
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To identify the lie or walk in freedom.
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And so we said,
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We being my dad and i,
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We said, let's
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Go back and reintroduce people to who these men were
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When they pledged their lives, fortunes and sacred honor.
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When they signed the declaration,
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Which also was a side note,
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Tomorrow, as we celebrate the 4th of july, it's huge.
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That's not when they actually signed the declaration.
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This is a history trivia for people
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That maybe didn't learn this or don't remember.
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They signed on august 2nd,
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And when they signed on august 2nd,
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They ultimately knew they were signing their death warrant.
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They knew that
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When when they're literally putting their name on the page,
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We're the ones defying the king, the most powerful nation,
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The most powerful military and navy in the world.
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They knew that ultimately we're going to die for this,
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Most likely.
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But we believe that there's a cause greater
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That demands our sacrifice for our kids or grandkids are
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Rising generations.
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So they pledge their lives, their fortunes and sacred honor.
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And every one of them
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Sacrificed something for the cause of liberty.
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Let me interrupt you, because a lot of us, i wasn't.
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But i know a lot of folks have been taught
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That they signed the declaration because they were greedy,
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Land grabbing,
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Highly self-interested people.
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And you're suggesting something very different, right? so.
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So that they they were very eclectic group.
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Some of them were wealthy.
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Some of them were incredibly poor.
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And the question is not if they had money.
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It's also what did you do with the money you had?
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Because we know some people
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That are incredibly prosperous, but they're also
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The most generous people we've ever known.
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And then we know some people that have money
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That are not generous at all, and they want more money.
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It's more of what you're motivated, how you're motivated
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With what you have, what how you are responsible
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Of what god gave you.
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And so,
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For example, you have a contrast of like a
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John hancock versus sam adams, both boston men, john hancock,
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An incredibly wealthy guy,
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But he actually funds all of the early efforts
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Throughout boston. if it's not for his money.
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Things like the sons of liberty,
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Which ultimately
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You get to the boston tea party, you can back
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Up to the boston massacre.
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If it's not for john hancock helping
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Fund so much of this movement, it doesn't happen.
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So john hancock was incredibly wealthy,
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But he spent his wealth for the cause of liberty
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With no guarantee that he would ever be repaid.
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He was literally risking his business,
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Which he made great trade
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And profit from our endeavors with the king.
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But he, as a principle driven person, said,
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I am willing to risk it because i believe the king
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Is violating those inalienable rights are god given principles.
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But you can contrast that with a guy like sam adams.
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Sam adams, one of the most known and yet unknown
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Founding fathers, most people know his name.
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They know there's a beer named after him.
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They don't know much else.
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He was the father of the revolution.
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He's the one that started the sons of liberty.
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But he also
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Was one of the greatest business
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Failures of any founding father.
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When he went to harvard when he was 14 years old.
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Back then, it was a bible college.
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Sam was a devout christian.
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His, dad was a deacon at their church.
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He was very proud of his lineage,
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Going all the way back to
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The puritans, john winthrop, and he was very proud
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Of being a puritan in that descendant line.
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But he went to harvard, which was a bible college at 14
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Graduates.
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At 18, when he graduated,
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His dad says, son, you have a brilliant mind.
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You should become a lawyer.
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Mom says, no, sam, you should go into business.
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You'd be great.
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And he decides, i'm going to follow mom's advice,
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Which maybe wasn't the best thing for him.
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But, dad says, let me give you a loan to get you started.
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He took the money from his dad.
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That business went belly up in, like, a year.
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Did not do well in business.
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Well, his father ends up dying.
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His father leaves him the malt brewery business.
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And this is an established business.
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But it's also the time
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When he's getting fired up with the british to stand back.
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Taxes happening.
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And so he says, i gotta oppose this.
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He neglects the family business so bad that the family business
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Goes bankrupt, goes into foreclosure.
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He has to fight it to try to resolve.
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It, ends up losing the family business.
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He has to now find another job.
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So in the town there's a job opening
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And he applies and gets hired as the tax collector
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For the town.
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The levels of irony.
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And this is a great, you know, the guy protesting the tax.
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Well, what's great about the story
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Is he actually ends up getting fired as a tax collector
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Because as he was going around collecting taxes, he's like, oh,
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So, pastor allen, how much do you owe?
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Oh, that's way too much.
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Give me like, half of that.
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So he neglected to bring it enough taxes for the town.
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The town is going millions of dollars into debt
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And like today's funds and they're like, we can't do this.
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He gets fired as a tax collector.
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But he is such an outspoken patriot.
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When the founding fathers meet,
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For the first time
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And the first continental congress,
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Sam adams was chosen to be one of the leaders from boston.
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But they were embarrassed to send a guy who had
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Honestly not been successful in any business ever so life
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Because he only had one suit and add holes in it.
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He had one pair of stockings
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And holes in it and they said, well,
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He's the best voice we have, but we want him to look better.
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So one of the local guys said, i'm going to hire a tailor.
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He's going to come by, he's going to fix you.
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So one man, a bottom, a new suit.
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Another guy said, i bought you six
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Pairs of stockings, gave him as a gift.
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There was another guy
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Who bought him a new wig, so he would look very official
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And professional with this new wig.
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Somebody else wrote john adams
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To see if john would loan him a horse.
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So sam wouldn't have to walk all the way there.
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And the reason i say this, sam adams and john hancock,
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They're really good friends and running buddies.
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You have a very wealthy guy and a very poor guy.
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And when you know the story of the founding fathers,
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What you realize is this is a very diverse group
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That unified around common principles.
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And those common principles
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Largely were biblical, foundational principles.
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But they came from very different
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Stages and walks of life, but they unified around common
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Core principles.
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Well, i'm going to make a contribution to this discussion.
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I read last week
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That our world cup visitors that were in america,
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They loved sam adams.
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In fact,
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They drank all of the sam adams that was available in boston.
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So with that contribution to the history
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We're going to take a quick break.
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We'll be back with more from tim barton in just a moment.
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We'll be back with more from tim barton in just a moment.
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Well,
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I'm back now with tim barton and the president of wallbuilders.
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Tim has a new book, lives, fortunes and sacred honor.
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It's the signers of the declaration.
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It's a fascinating book. tim.
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I know you've got a favorite.
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Did you is there a story or a character in there that
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There are several that i really like to highlight.
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And honestly, the more we studied them,
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The more we realized
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Most of them
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Have really awesome things that some part of their story.
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So the couple i would tell real quick,
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One of them is a signer of the declaration from virginia.
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He's thomas nelson jr.
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After he signed the declaration, he joins the continental army.
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His friend george washington is the commander.
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So this is almost illogical.
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I'm gonna go hang out with my buddy
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Who's leading the military.
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But they had this major uphill battle.
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He stays involved in the military.
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He becomes a general under george washington,
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And he's there at the last major battle of yorktown,
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Which is actually where he's from.
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And so as they are that the americans
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Have surrounded yorktown, there's that.
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Yorktown is under siege where the british army,
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It's this the stronghold of cornwallis is.
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And so general thomas nelson
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Is there with this artillery group.
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And as they begin the bombardment,
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Trying to drive the british out,
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Ultimately working for the surrender.
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What's also worth noting, we mentioned in the first segment,
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Thomas nelson jr was another wealthy guy,
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And at the time of the american revolution, congress
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Did not have the power to tax.
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Now, we might appreciate that on some level today.
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But the problem is,
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If you're in a war,
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If you don't have the power to tax,
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You don't have money to pay your troops.
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So one of the things
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That was not uncommon is there were many founding fathers
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That had money that actually paid
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Their local troops, their their regiment, their state militias.
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And so thomas nelson had been funding
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So much of the guys that were working for him.
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And often that meant even taking out loans
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In your name against your business,
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Leveraging everything you had.
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And this wasn't just extra money in his savings account,
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So he's leveraging himself.
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But i say that
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Because in yorktown, as a wealthy guy,
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He had the nicest house in yorktown.
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Well, now yorktown is under siege.
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They're they're firing cannons
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And trying to drive the british back.
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And he notices as they're firing on yorktown
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That they've hit like every building in the town except one.
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And it's his house.
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And because it was the nicest building in house,
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That's where all the officers want to be.
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So he goes to the men on the cannons like, guys,
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Why are you letting the officers stay where they are?
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And they said, sir, we know whose house it is.
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We we know who pays our bills.
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We would never.
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And so what
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The story goes,
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One of the guys who told the story says
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That he reached in his pocket, pulled out his wallet,
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And he pulled out this 5 pound note
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And says, the first cannonball in my house,
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You get a 5 pound note, and then i will give a 5 pound
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Note for every cannonball after that.
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To this day, his house still stands,
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But in his house, literally in the bricks of his house.
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People can actually look this up online.
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Now, we might actually have some b-roll.
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We can show there are cannonballs lodged in his house
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That when people go to yorktown,
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They can literally see where he was paying his men
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To fire on his own house.
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So you start to read these stories
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And you realize, okay, so not only did
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This guy leverage his business, his wealth,
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His fortune to pay his troops,
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He was literally willing to destroy his own house.
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The nicest house in yorktown, to try to drive the british out
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To effect the surrender, to hopefully end the war.
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And you begin to realize that these were incredibly
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Courageous, strong men that pledged so much.
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But also,
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I love the fact
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That when you learn more of their stories,
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You learn about the scottish revivalist preacher named john
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Witherspoon, who is recruited
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To come to america to be the president of.
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At the time, it was the college of new jersey.
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We now know this princeton
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Because princeton was a presbyterian school.
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And back then you had to have a pastor
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To to lead your university,
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Because back then,
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Every university was largely a christian university.
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He was a revivalist preacher.
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Two other founding fathers went to scotland
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Trying to find a presbyterian minister.
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They find this guy. they're like, he's incredible.
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John witherspoon comes to america
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Before the revolution begins.
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But, maybe as a true scotsman, he already had some issues with
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Some of what the crown was doing.
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So as the movement begins, he's fully on board.
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But also at princeton, he trained more founding fathers
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And any other single individual, his university.
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He personally mentored them and so
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When you start looking at all these guys that are rallying,
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These are guys
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Who've been mentored
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By a scottish revivalist preacher
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Who also when he was in scotland,
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He was part of the scottish, revivals of scottish awakening.
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Kind of like the great awakening in scotland.
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But i say this because one of the most noted pastors
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At that time,
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And he was still a pastor in america
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At the time he signed the declaration.
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He was a pastor up in new jersey,
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One of the most noted pastors in america at that time.
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Signs of declaration.
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One of the guys who also signed with them
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Was a guy named francis hopkinson,
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Who's the most noted musician at the time.
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And he's also the worship leader.
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He's the organist, the choir director at his home
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Church and in 19 assuming in 1767,
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He came out with one of my favorite works
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That he did, and it was a hymn book.
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The hymn book was called the psalms of david,
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And it was a 150 psalms set to music.
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And again, the reason i love, like
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The scottish revivalist pastor john witherspoon
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Or the most famous musician in america,
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Francis hopkinson,
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Is because a lot of times we have this notion
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That they weren't really religious.
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And then you go, wait a second.
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So you're telling me,
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Like the most famous revivalist
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At the time,
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It would be like a billy graham today
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Or the famous most famous musician.
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And whether you know someone who's like, well,
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Like chris tomlin.
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So you're telling me they have billy graham
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And chris tomlin, yet somehow we think they're not religious.
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It's just it's so silly when you know their story.
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So being able to go back and dig in and then tell their story
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Where you get to connect on some level.
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And each time
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We try to show some of the personality,
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Some of their accomplishments, maybe their faith story
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Along the way,
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But there's honestly, there's 56 stories
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We could tell, but those are some of my favorites.
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Was it hopkinson? i'm not sure.
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I remember correctly,
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That stood up in the pulpit of his church,
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And we took off his choir robes.
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He had his uniform on and john peter gabriel muhlenberg,
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Thank you.
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But he also they there's a recruiting cadets.
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He recruited 300 men from his church that that signed up.
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They became the eighth virgin brigade.
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But right by the white house, there's freedom plaza,
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Which the president has now opened up.
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There are 12 statues
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There of heroes of the american revolution.
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He's one of the 12 statues there.
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There's actually a biography on the national park service.
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People can go and read about john peter gabriel muhlenberg.
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Wonderful story.
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That's one we should, because he went on to be a major general.
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So this is a significant military commander
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Who got his start as a pastor.
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And the reason he got involved was because of his faith.
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And i think if more people knew the stories of the people
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Who were there, we would realize
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How central faith was to the story.
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Absolutely.
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We need to take a short break.
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I hope you'll stay with us for another segment.
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We haven't got the whole story yet. it's a wonderful book.
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Lives, fortunes, and a sacred honor.
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It's a wonderful gift to give somebody share.
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This year, while we're celebrating
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Our 250th anniversary, we'll be right back.
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Our 250th anniversary, we'll be right back.
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We're back now with the president of wallbuilders, tim
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Barton.
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Tim, we're getting ready to celebrate
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July the 4th, our 250th anniversary as a nation.
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I'm a bit older than you.
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I remember our bicentennial celebration.
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I was very young, but i remember
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And the tone was much different than today.
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You know, i don't remember the division.
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I remember the tall ships in boston harbor
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And the fireworks and the red, white and blue
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Water at the water cannons and the whole thing.
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But, you know, today we're a nation divided.
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Yeah.
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We have a great nation with a remarkable history
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Tell i mean, you know, history as well as anybody
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I know to sit down with.
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We have something to celebrate, right? we really do.
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We we have more to celebrate than most americans realize,
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Because most americans over
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The last many decades have gone through an educational system
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That has told them more bad about america than good.
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And that's the reason that for some people, even as christians,
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Maybe there's hesitancy. and i'm not.
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I'm like, should we really celebrate?
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And the only reason that we have that hesitation
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Is because we don't know enough of the story.
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The fact is that no nation has been more stable,
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Has been more free.
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There's never been a more strong military might power nation
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That's actually used it for good.
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And on top of it, we've been more benevolent
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Than any nation in the history of the world.
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And i know people want to look and go, wait a second, but
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But we had slavery in america
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And this is not to say that there weren't bad things
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You acknowledged at the very beginning.
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America is not a perfect nation.
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But the reality is
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We have been taught
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To look at history through
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Only one lens in one bubble, that america stands independent.
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And if you look and i challenge people
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All the time, you pick any issue you want.
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And if you measure it in context, what you will discover
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Is not only was america not a leader in that issue,
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America actually was at the forefront
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Of opposition to those evils when they happened.
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And this is also where there's a great faith connection
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That we should celebrate in america.
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Because whether you talk about,
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You, you go back to the witch trials,
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All the way in boston, whether you talk about the
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Indian land
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Removal, slavery, whatever people think
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Are the biggest atrocities, the biggest stains on america's
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Past, i would challenge people with two questions.
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How did that come to an end and who led the opposition?
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And consistently, the reason it came to an end
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And the people leading the opposition.
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It was always pastors, christians in the church.
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Every time our nation has gone the wrong direction,
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It's always been christians
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Who got involved and helped correct and redirect the ship.
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And by the way, the reason that even america
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Has been so special because we can take the issue,
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For example, of slavery.
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We actually were the first
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Nation in the world
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To begin a political movement against slavery
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That every single northern colony
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We separate from great britain began passing laws
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For the abolition of slavery.
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England didn't do that to 1833.
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By 1804,
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Every one of our northern colonies had already done it.
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We signed the law to abolish the slave trade.
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On march 2nd, 1807.
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England. at a march 25th, 1807.
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We were leading the way on all of these issues.
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In fact,
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When people talk about the civil war
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And this is overly simplifying it,
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But the reality is that you had white people
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Fighting white people until the end of the war.
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They freed all the black people.
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To this day, there's 193 member nations, part of the un,
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94 nations have still not passed laws to criminalize slavery.
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So when people look at america and we go, we're so bad.
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My bigger question is compared to who?
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Right.
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Because it's not that we didn't do bad things,
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But it's it's that we're we're mis understanding the scale
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That we're heavily weighing on one side
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When if you have a more honest perspective of the world,
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You realize that the whole world
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Is broken and in need of a savior.
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So it's not just unique in america,
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But the fact that america had christians who were leaders,
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Who got involved, and every time there was an evil,
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It was always who led the abolition movement.
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It was christians.
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It was always christians
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Who were correcting and redirecting the ship.
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And i would say,
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Not only do we have a lot to celebrate,
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That we've been the most free, the most stable,
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Most prosperous, the strongest, most benevolent.
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But we have a lot to celebrate.
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Looking at how god used christians in this nation
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To be a beacon and lead the way for the rest of the world.
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I want to ask a quick question. we got to go.
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I just got a minute.
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But there's a notion that's thrived
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Amongst christians that we should be passive.
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The founders put a great deal at risk.
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And they weren't the majority.
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No, they were a tiny directorate.
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And yet they stood up.
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And we've gotten freedom because of their courage. correct.
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We have god given rights.
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And everybody thinks, well, we always have god given rights.
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You only have god given rights that you can freely enjoy
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If they're politically protected.
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And if christians don't get involved
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Like the founding fathers did,
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We don't continue to enjoy those.
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And to your point, there was only about seven,
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Eight, or 9% of americans that actively partook
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In fighting for independence.
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It was a minority
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That was dedicated, that was motivated
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By their faith, their belief in their worldview.
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And god used them not just for the
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Good of this nation, but for the whole world.
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If they want to know more about wallbuilders working, they go
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Wallbuilders.com is the best place to go.
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Okay, thank you for your time today.
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Thank you for the work.
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You go to wallbuilders.com and get your copy of this book.
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It'll help you have the conversation
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With your family and your friends.
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Folks, god is moving in the earth.
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We want to be a part of that.
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A little bit of study. it will help you have a voice.
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Thanks for your time. my pleasure.
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Thank you for spending a few moments of your day with us.
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Just a reminder,
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Every generation has to choose freedom.
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We can't ride on the coattails
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Of the courage of those who've preceded us.
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We have to choose liberty
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And freedom for ourselves if we'll do that.
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It's the best future for everybody.
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Thank you.
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God bless you and good night.
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Allen Jackson: Founding Fathers | Allen Jackson Now

July 3, 2026 | 22:20

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