Allen Jackson: Fraud Crackdown | Allen Jackson Now

April 8, 2026 | 22:39

Pete Peterson joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Fraud Crackdown | Allen Jackson Now | April 8, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson with april 15th bearing down on taxpayers.
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  • Government fraud and stealing has become
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  • A conversation piece at the watercooler this week.
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  • Translation the money we're paying in taxes
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  • Is being stolen by others, and it's a massive amount.
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  • Somewhere between a quarter and a half $1 trillion each year.
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  • Imagine how
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  • Much bigger your refund would be if there was no fraud,
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  • Or how much lower the $39 trillion
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  • Federal deficit would be if the thieves weren't
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  • Reaching into your pocket and taking your money.
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  • Defrauding the government is hardly new,
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  • But the amount being stolen is record breaking.
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  • When an independent reporter
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  • Shot video of this sign the learing center.
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  • Well, it triggered a national movement
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  • To look more deeply at the extent of the fraud,
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  • Not just in minnesota, but every other state
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  • Where it's been clear the stealing is rampant.
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  • Investigators just busted a massive california fraud ring
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  • Where a fake hospice office was set up
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  • And stole $50 million from the government.
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  • That was just one office, one group of people doing it.
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  • California's
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  • Fraud could easily total hundreds of millions of dollars.
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  • Well, president trump says that the numbers are so large
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  • That if successful,
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  • We would literally be able to balance the american budget.
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  • Listen to his comment.
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  • This is the kind of corruption that shreds the fabric of a
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  • Nation, and we are working on it like you wouldn't believe.
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  • So tonight, orville started four months ago.
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  • I am officially announcing the war on fraud to be
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  • Led by our great vice president, j.d.
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  • Vance.
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  • So instead of the constant
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  • Arguing about spending in washington,
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  • The focus should be on recovering
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  • And saving the money that we all pay in our taxes.
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  • You know, fraud is happening in several states,
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  • But we can't be at peace with hundreds
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  • Of billions of dollars being stolen.
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  • We have to make a change.
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  • We need to reframe our expectations.
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  • And it isn't just about making america great again.
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  • It's about restoring integrity again.
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  • You see, integrity matters.
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  • Character still matters.
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  • Statesmanship should matter to all of us.
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  • Our elected officials must be able to make decisions
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  • For the good of the state ahead of themselves.
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  • Accountability has been lacking across the board
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  • With our elected officials.
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  • Many of them,
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  • When they got those appointments,
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  • Spent decades in washington
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  • Without any other jobs or means of employment.
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  • It's somehow they find themselves
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  • To have accumulated tremendous resources and personal wealth.
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  • If we have a member of congress whose net worth increase is $30
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  • Million per year,
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  • That should not be all right with us,
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  • Especially if their state is at
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  • The center of multiple high profile cases of fraud.
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  • And i'm so grateful
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  • That this administration is boldly saying fraud is not okay,
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  • And they're taking some real action
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  • To stop our taxpayer dollars from being stolen.
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  • I'm also grateful that president trump is working
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  • Hard to reestablish and rent re-orient us to our heroes.
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  • Are we saw this exemplified over the weekend,
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  • A massive undertaking
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  • To rescue a weapon system officer, a highly respected
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  • Airman who had crashed deep behind enemy lines in iran.
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  • In total, the u.s.
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  • Sent in more than 150 aircraft and several different teams.
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  • Navy seals, air force special operations, army
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  • Special operations, aviation search,
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  • Search and rescue, combat medics.
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  • They all took in the rescue operation,
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  • Taking on heavy enemy fire to save one life.
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  • Well, that airman showed the kind of courage you can't fake.
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  • He was wounded, isolated, deep inside enemy territory.
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  • He reportedly hiked up a 7000ft mountain ridgeline,
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  • Hid in a crevice while waiting for rescue.
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  • Well, during that time, he used emergency communications
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  • Equipment to help direct u.s.
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  • Airstrikes against advancing iranian forces.
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  • I felt like a script that even hollywood
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  • Would have a difficult time coming up with
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  • Was the rescue unfolded over easter weekend.
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  • The pilot radioed a brief message to help u.s.
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  • Forces identify him.
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  • God is good, was his message.
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  • That man is a hero.
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  • The rescue forces showed
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  • America still produces men who run towards danger.
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  • Trump's response projected a commander in chief mindset
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  • To stay at his command post, even over a holiday weekend.
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  • He treated it
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  • Like it was his national duty to rescue this one life.
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  • You know, once upon a time,
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  • Hollywood cranked out movies
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  • That made heroes of military victories.
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  • There's a whole genre of movies.
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  • We call them westerns,
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  • And the typical pattern in those
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  • Movies was the bad guy loses and the good guy wins.
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  • Entertainment has changed dramatically
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  • In the last 30 years. a lot of things have changed.
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  • Now, hollywood wants to portray heroes as superheroes.
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  • They wear spandex clothes, and if you put a dark streak
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  • In their character, it's even better.
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  • Well, real heroes, they don't have superpowers.
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  • They're real people doing real things.
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  • They're in homes, neighborhoods,
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  • Hospitals, churches and fire stations.
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  • A parent waking up early, working hard
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  • And raising children with love and discipline.
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  • Showing love and respect to their spouse.
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  • That's a hero.
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  • The father staying present, protecting,
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  • Providing, and leading his family is heroic.
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  • A police officer running towards danger.
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  • That's heroic.
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  • A soldier willing to lay down his life for others is heroic.
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  • The backbone of america is ordinary people
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  • Doing extraordinary things when it matters most.
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  • I like the navy seals motto.
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  • The only easy day.
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  • That was yesterday.
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  • We're going to have to get over easy if we want to go from
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  • Where we are as a culture to excellence.
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  • Let's ask god to grow us, to mold us and to train us.
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  • So we're ready for what's ahead.
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  • Well, in a moment, we'll talk about the california fraud
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  • And other current issues
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  • With the dean of pepperdine school of public policy,
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  • Pete peterson.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • Well.
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  • Welcome back.
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  • You know, i hope that by now, a large percentage of you
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  • Have received your refund from the treasury department.
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  • Some of the tax rules were changed
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  • Last year,
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  • And a lot of people are supposed to be getting a bigger refund,
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  • Or at least writing a smaller check
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  • If more is due by the 15th.
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  • Imagine how much more would remain in your wallet
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  • If the national debt was not so high.
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  • Interest alone on the debt will total $1 trillion this year.
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  • No, trying to pay it down is like running in place
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  • As the total debt approaches $39 trillion.
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  • Well, joining us to help bring clarity to
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  • This is our good friend
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  • From malibu, pepperdine, dean of the school of public policy.
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  • Pete peterson, welcome back.
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  • Great to be with you out for a lot of years now.
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  • The government just look the other way.
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  • When the issue of fraud came up, just like a store
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  • That has to write off what they lose was shoplifting.
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  • But president trump was a businessman
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  • Before he went into politics.
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  • And he's been shocked to see the extent of the fraud.
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  • J.d. vance is now the fraud czar, looking for savings
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  • That could now be spent on, among other things,
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  • Rebuilding our military after the war with iran.
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  • It's a good idea to have this going on
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  • At the highest level now.
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  • Am i correct in that assessment?
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  • Absolutely, alan.
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  • I think it's worth pointing out, and we're certainly seeing
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  • Some of this in california, that
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  • We really experienced a sea change in federal
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  • Spending with covid.
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  • Obviously, it drove us
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  • Through the biden administration
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  • Into record high inflation rates.
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  • But one of the things we haven't really accounted for
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  • Were the trillions of dollars put through,
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  • Public programs that have obviously now
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  • We're now discovering
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  • How much fraud, there has been in those programs.
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  • And so much of the fraud
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  • That we're seeing, whether it's minnesota
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  • Or certainly here in california now or around the country,
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  • Really results from the trillions of dollars,
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  • We spent
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  • During the biden administration that in many instances,
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  • Went unaccounted for.
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  • You know, the early look in the fraud in minnesota and now
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  • California has already shown some pretty massive stealing.
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  • Just today,
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  • The acting attorney general, todd blanch, said
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  • That there
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  • Are currently 8000 cases of stealing being investigated
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  • And prosecuted,
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  • Just a fraction of what's going to be uncovered.
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  • Do you have any idea if the departments involved,
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  • The ones that approved and hand out money,
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  • Just didn't know
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  • About the scale of this, or did they just look the other way?
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  • You know that that remains to be seen.
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  • What we do know,
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  • At least here in california, is that this is a story,
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  • That goes back
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  • A few years again, and you can kind of peg it to,
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  • All the trillions that were spent
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  • During the biden administration,
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  • In response
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  • To what they thought was, necessary for covid.
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  • The biggest story
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  • That we saw a few years ago, and this was certainly,
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  • Under, governor gavin newsom's watch, was,
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  • The employment department that issued
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  • Checks for unemployment here in the state.
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  • And we learned very quickly,
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  • About, 3 or 4 years ago that we have lost
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  • Track of between 25 and $30 billion in public funds.
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  • That was really just the first story.
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  • And obviously now
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  • We're seeing it bleed into other federal programs,
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  • Like medi-cal,
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  • And, a number of others related to hospice care
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  • And food stamps, the snap program and the list goes on.
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  • And on.
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  • Well, i have a question about iran and the us.
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  • A fox news poll show that most people support
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  • What the president
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  • Is doing to shut down iran's nuclear ambitions
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  • And the terrorism that they've been spreading.
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  • But it also showed that
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  • A lot of people aren't
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  • Even paying attention to the wars play by play.
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  • Why do you think that is?
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  • Well, i think it's a mixture of factors.
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  • One is that,
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  • As it stands today, we have not put boots on the ground.
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  • And i think for a lot of americans, that's a
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  • That's a hinge point in focusing on
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  • American engagement around the world as it stands.
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  • Many of the videos that we're all watching are videos
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  • Of american drop bombs being dropped or, certainly,
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  • Israeli forces also engaged in that fight.
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  • If it did become the case that american,
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  • Forces, went on the ground and actually invaded.
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  • I think you would definitely see an increased
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  • Interest level on the part of most americans.
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  • I think there's also a feeling that, a certain sense
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  • Of of trust and appreciation for american military leadership
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  • That we frankly, have not seen, for a number of years.
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  • When you see what saw
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  • What happened in venezuela with the operation, with maduro,
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  • When you see the beginnings of this operation in taking out,
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  • Iranian leadership, these are,
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  • Incredible,
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  • Examples of both american courage,
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  • Technology and firepower, on display.
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  • And i think there's, there's, frankly, increased trust,
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  • That we're seeing there on the part of many americans.
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  • Well, let's shift to the job market.
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  • The latest jobs report showed a lot of people found work.
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  • In the most recent month, 170,000 plus jobs were added.
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  • What are you seeing among your graduating students?
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  • Well, it's an interesting time at the policy school.
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  • You know, washington, d.
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  • Even though we're based out here in malibu,
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  • We do have,
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  • Operations and classes that we offer
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  • In washington, d.c., and we certainly send
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  • A number of our students
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  • Are currently working in the administration.
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  • But one of the
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  • Interesting elements that came out of the jobs report
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  • Is that one of the one of the sectors
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  • Not driving job growth was federal employment.
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  • There's a lot of public sector or private
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  • Sector business employment that's that's really driving
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  • These numbers.
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  • And i think that's that's really encouraging.
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  • I think in many ways,
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  • Through the efforts of the trump administration,
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  • Especially in the first year with doge and,
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  • Making government more efficient and effective,
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  • We've seen a reduction overall in the federal workforce.
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  • So when you see the numbers that we're seeing,
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  • Which, again, are very positive, certainly beyond what
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  • Many economists estimated to know
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  • That that is not being driven by government hiring,
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  • But by private
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  • Sector hiring, that, that that's a real encouragement.
  • 00:12:45.923 --> 00:12:48.893
  • Well, there's some other good news
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  • For the students and others.
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  • It's a report from mit has found that the early signs are that
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  • I it won't replace as many workers as feared.
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  • The biggest reason
  • 00:12:58.803 --> 00:13:00.071
  • It's still less expensive to pay a human being
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  • Than to install and maintain what it costs to use ai.
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  • That's even more true for small businesses.
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  • That said, is the ai corporate adoption had an effect on
  • 00:13:08.546 --> 00:13:11.282
  • What students are majoring in now.
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  • Well, certainly here at the policy school,
  • 00:13:14.485 --> 00:13:16.654
  • We've been considering the impact of
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  • Ai across a variety of different factors.
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  • We've created new coursework that is looking at the use of ai
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  • In local and state government,
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  • As well as the federal government.
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  • And i think in that we are going to see maybe not necessarily
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  • A reduction in workforce, but an increase in efficiency.
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  • And back to the earlier point about the,
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  • The reduction in federal
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  • Workforce numbers, i think we're going to continue to see,
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  • Improved efficiency in government, at all levels.
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  • Largely due to technology.
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  • And certainly ai is going to be a major, driver of that.
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  • Well, i think we could all celebrate
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  • More efficient government.
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  • We need to take a short break.
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  • We're back now with pete peterson.
  • 00:14:28.093 --> 00:14:29.861
  • He's the dean of pepperdine school of public policy
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  • Because of the squeeze on oil through the strait of hormuz.
  • 00:14:33.832 --> 00:14:36.535
  • Gas prices are averaging over $4 now
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  • And even higher in california since governor newsom issued
  • 00:14:39.638 --> 00:14:42.541
  • The executive order to phase out all oil drilling by 2045.
  • 00:14:42.541 --> 00:14:47.079
  • Here's how he put it. a couple of years ago,
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  • When we lay out markers, we achieved them.
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  • And so we have laid out ambitious markers 20, 45,
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  • Not just 100% renewables, as it relates to our electricity
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  • Grid, but carbon free future in the state of california.
  • 00:15:00.726 --> 00:15:04.997
  • Does he have much support for this?
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  • With budgets so tight?
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  • Allen.
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  • It doesn't appear so.
  • 00:15:11.703 --> 00:15:13.505
  • We're seeing gas prices well over $6 a gallon.
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  • I just filled up yesterday and it was about 650 a gallon.
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  • And, this as as california likes
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  • To think of itself as really the state
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  • That supports the middle class.
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  • And and those aspiring to rise into the middle class.
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  • But really, what we're seeing
  • 00:15:31.523 --> 00:15:32.924
  • With these energy prices that are really only do,
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  • To california policy and the policies of this governor
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  • Is that it's driving the middle
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  • Class and lower middle class out of this state
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  • At all levels and including the energy sector,
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  • Whether it's gas or home heating or electricity.
  • 00:15:48.340 --> 00:15:51.476
  • California is unnecessarily more expensive
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  • Than just about any other state.
  • 00:15:54.946 --> 00:15:57.449
  • And when you think about where
  • 00:15:57.449 --> 00:15:58.583
  • People are leaving, they're coming
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  • To you, allen in nashville, they're coming out to,
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  • Texas and florida and arizona.
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  • These are states that are have, frankly, much more
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  • Rational policies around energy and environmental policy,
  • 00:16:09.261 --> 00:16:13.899
  • That can sustain and support a thriving middle class.
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  • We just do not have that here in california right now.
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  • Well, i'd like to get your thoughts on another
  • 00:16:21.940 --> 00:16:23.742
  • Simmering issue.
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  • It's the voter id debate.
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  • You know, all the polls show it's
  • 00:16:26.812 --> 00:16:28.080
  • Even more than an 8020 issue throughout the country.
  • 00:16:28.080 --> 00:16:31.349
  • They want their vote to count
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  • And not the votes of people who are here illegally.
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  • Do you think most people understand
  • 00:16:35.554 --> 00:16:37.055
  • That this was part of the open border strategy
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  • That the democrats designed to grow their ranks?
  • 00:16:39.191 --> 00:16:42.861
  • Well, one of the, classes that we had here
  • 00:16:43.762 --> 00:16:46.698
  • The other day is we we laid out a bunch of, voter integrity
  • 00:16:46.698 --> 00:16:51.436
  • Measures and asked them, where they thought
  • 00:16:51.436 --> 00:16:55.674
  • These measures came from, whether it's voter id or,
  • 00:16:55.674 --> 00:16:58.910
  • Reducing or at least,
  • 00:16:59.411 --> 00:17:01.413
  • Making it more difficult to vote absentee or vote by mail.
  • 00:17:01.413 --> 00:17:05.217
  • And frankly, all of these measures are in
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  • European countries.
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  • And many of our students were shocked that countries like
  • 00:17:10.522 --> 00:17:14.493
  • That, they think as being so, they think are being so
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  • Progressive, like, you know, france or italy or, the uk.
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  • I mean, we could go on.
  • 00:17:22.834 --> 00:17:24.736
  • We are in america, truly the outlier
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  • When it comes to issues that that can open themselves
  • 00:17:27.772 --> 00:17:31.710
  • Up to true voter integrity,
  • 00:17:31.710 --> 00:17:34.746
  • Vote integrity, questions.
  • 00:17:34.746 --> 00:17:37.482
  • And in that, i think what the administration is doing.
  • 00:17:37.482 --> 00:17:40.886
  • And again, this goes back to a point we were discussing
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  • Before, allen, is just how incredibly powerful,
  • 00:17:43.088 --> 00:17:47.859
  • That covid era was on a variety of policies.
  • 00:17:47.859 --> 00:17:51.029
  • We were talking about the federal spending
  • 00:17:51.029 --> 00:17:52.764
  • That went out of control.
  • 00:17:52.764 --> 00:17:54.499
  • But a lot of these voter integrity policies, like moving
  • 00:17:54.499 --> 00:17:57.802
  • Towards all vote by mail, a lot of these things,
  • 00:17:57.802 --> 00:18:01.406
  • Came online in various states because of covid.
  • 00:18:01.406 --> 00:18:04.643
  • And as with so many policies that were put in place
  • 00:18:04.643 --> 00:18:07.579
  • That are so hyper
  • 00:18:07.579 --> 00:18:08.780
  • Progressive during covid, we've never truly unwound them.
  • 00:18:08.780 --> 00:18:12.684
  • We've never gone back to the status quo before covid.
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  • And i think what this president
  • 00:18:16.188 --> 00:18:18.056
  • Is trying to do across
  • 00:18:18.056 --> 00:18:19.391
  • An array of measures, whether it's spending
  • 00:18:19.391 --> 00:18:21.660
  • Or ballot integrity measures, is just to understand,
  • 00:18:21.660 --> 00:18:25.030
  • Yeah, we may have done these things
  • 00:18:25.030 --> 00:18:26.598
  • During a time of global crisis with covid,
  • 00:18:26.598 --> 00:18:29.801
  • But we need to return to a time,
  • 00:18:29.801 --> 00:18:33.405
  • That that understands that we're no longer under that threat.
  • 00:18:33.405 --> 00:18:37.375
  • It's ironic to me that in that covid
  • 00:18:38.176 --> 00:18:40.111
  • Season, while they shouted at us, follow the science,
  • 00:18:40.111 --> 00:18:43.381
  • We really ignored science and we practice lawlessness.
  • 00:18:43.381 --> 00:18:46.751
  • But do you think it takes
  • 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:48.286
  • To bring a reset back to us in a broad way?
  • 00:18:48.286 --> 00:18:51.590
  • Well, i really think that the trump
  • 00:18:52.390 --> 00:18:53.892
  • Administration is in some ways a response
  • 00:18:53.892 --> 00:18:57.028
  • To the overregulation, overspending of,
  • 00:18:57.028 --> 00:19:02.000
  • The biden administration and certainly more broadly,
  • 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:05.270
  • The, the democrat,
  • 00:19:05.270 --> 00:19:07.639
  • The democratic party in the country.
  • 00:19:07.639 --> 00:19:10.508
  • You know, we did see a time here during covid
  • 00:19:10.508 --> 00:19:12.844
  • When even our own governor newsom was,
  • 00:19:12.844 --> 00:19:16.448
  • Put forward to be recalled, how he managed to survive that.
  • 00:19:16.448 --> 00:19:20.318
  • But it showed that even in a blue state like california,
  • 00:19:20.318 --> 00:19:23.922
  • That if the government goes
  • 00:19:23.922 --> 00:19:25.223
  • Too far on an array of measures, whether it's shutdowns
  • 00:19:25.223 --> 00:19:28.526
  • Or overspending or these ballot measure issues,
  • 00:19:28.526 --> 00:19:32.163
  • Voters will respond.
  • 00:19:32.631 --> 00:19:34.432
  • And i think in in many ways, when we look back at the history
  • 00:19:34.432 --> 00:19:38.336
  • Of that 2024
  • 00:19:38.670 --> 00:19:39.971
  • Election, in a lot of ways, i think it was a response to,
  • 00:19:39.971 --> 00:19:44.175
  • The biden administration's dramatic oversteps during covid.
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  • Yeah.
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  • Well, one last question before we run out of time.
  • 00:19:49.314 --> 00:19:51.383
  • The four astronauts have now officially traveled farther
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  • From earth than anyone before them.
  • 00:19:54.219 --> 00:19:56.087
  • It's the first step towards getting back on the moon.
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  • A lot of people believe that we never should have
  • 00:19:58.823 --> 00:20:00.825
  • Stopped the space program. but now that it's back.
  • 00:20:00.825 --> 00:20:03.595
  • What's the reaction out west?
  • 00:20:03.595 --> 00:20:05.397
  • Well, we're so excited that they're going to be landing,
  • 00:20:06.531 --> 00:20:09.534
  • The end of this week just off the coast of san diego.
  • 00:20:09.534 --> 00:20:12.737
  • I hope we're not going to
  • 00:20:13.305 --> 00:20:14.406
  • Force them to pay any taxes after they land here.
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  • On our shores.
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  • I'm sure they're going to want
  • 00:20:18.576 --> 00:20:19.477
  • To get back to their home state very soon.
  • 00:20:19.477 --> 00:20:22.047
  • But that being said, you know, just up
  • 00:20:22.047 --> 00:20:24.816
  • The street here, we have vandenberg air force base.
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  • Elon musk and and, the work that he's doing in
  • 00:20:27.852 --> 00:20:31.589
  • Launching rockets and satellites.
  • 00:20:31.589 --> 00:20:33.124
  • We just had some liftoff just last night.
  • 00:20:33.124 --> 00:20:36.294
  • Spacex is doing incredible work here in the state.
  • 00:20:36.294 --> 00:20:40.265
  • I just wish that the the kind of entrepreneurial spirit
  • 00:20:40.265 --> 00:20:44.502
  • That created some of these companies could be brought into,
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  • Our public policies, especially to make it easier
  • 00:20:48.473 --> 00:20:51.242
  • For future space companies, to grow here.
  • 00:20:51.242 --> 00:20:54.646
  • Because, frankly, what we're seeing
  • 00:20:54.646 --> 00:20:56.581
  • Over and over and over again
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  • Are great companies that are starting here.
  • 00:20:58.049 --> 00:21:00.685
  • And they get to a certain part, and they just can't
  • 00:21:00.685 --> 00:21:02.520
  • Take the overregulation and the cost of living anymore,
  • 00:21:02.520 --> 00:21:05.590
  • And then they move out of state.
  • 00:21:05.590 --> 00:21:08.326
  • So if we could just bring that ingenuity back to our public
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  • Policies here in the state, we'd be a lot better off.
  • 00:21:11.062 --> 00:21:14.833
  • Well, pete peterson, thank
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  • You for sharing your insights with us today.
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  • We very much enjoy having you on.
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  • So good to be with you all.
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  • In a moment, the feedback part of the show, it's your emails.
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  • Thank you for taking the time to send us your emails
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  • There always a highlight on the program.
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  • Wanda from florida wrote,
  • 00:21:45.631 --> 00:21:47.032
  • I was under the impression that you had to have an id
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  • On your person when you left your property.
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  • It's a federal law.
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  • Well, if that's the case, then what's the big deal
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  • About presenting an id to vote?
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  • You have to prove who you are when you're in public.
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  • Why not? when you go to vote?
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  • Wanda, i don't know about having to have an id on your person
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  • As federal law. i live in tennessee.
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  • We're just happy to have shoes when we leave the property.
  • 00:22:05.951 --> 00:22:09.188
  • In all seriousness,
  • 00:22:09.655 --> 00:22:11.357
  • It's just common sense that you need id to vote.
  • 00:22:11.357 --> 00:22:13.959
  • And trying to suspend that makes us understand
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  • That the people that don't want
  • 00:22:16.662 --> 00:22:17.897
  • Voter id are up to something that's not for the common good.
  • 00:22:17.897 --> 00:22:21.167
  • This is a complicated.
  • 00:22:21.634 --> 00:22:23.002
  • Our elected leaders need to do what's best for the nation
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  • And stop pandering to their personal agendas.
  • 00:22:25.371 --> 00:22:27.907
  • Keep using your voice. it makes a difference.
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  • Thank you for spending a few minutes with us today.
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  • God's moving in the earth and we get to be a part.
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  • God bless you.
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