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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Global Persecution | Allen Jackson Now | December 22, 2025
- Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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- I'm alan jackson.
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- I want to begin tonight
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- With a tale of two very different countries.
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- Now, in our country
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- This december, the supposedly important news
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- Is that some christmas decorations are running low.
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- The media is citing the tariffs as they run sound
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- Bites of unhappy shoppers,
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- With reporters insisting that it must be trump's fault.
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- We'll spin the globe around and there are other families
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- Who aren't thinking about decorations.
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- They're simply hoping to be able
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- To go to church on christmas and maybe read their bible
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- Without being taken hostage or perhaps shot.
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- You know, it's quite a stark contrast,
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- And it's not something many people here
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- Want to talk about as they walk through the mall.
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- And it's been said
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- That perhaps the suffering among christians is so vast
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- That some people can't get their heads around it,
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- And they don't want to see what's happening
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- Because they don't want to know what to do about it.
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- Well,
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- Some people try to wish it away by putting blinders on,
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- Except that once we actually do see the evidence and sometimes
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- That's just one picture, we can't unsee it.
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- Such as this photograph
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- Where dozens of nigerian children were suddenly
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- Cleared out of the room and taken hostage
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- Because they're christians.
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- You don't need to see their faces or hear their fear.
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- It's written all over that room where the life they knew
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- Suddenly stopped.
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- Well, by contrast,
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- This is what it's like for children in our country.
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- At the marines toys for tots event with the first lady,
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- Where everyone gets a present
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- And they get all read from their bible out loud
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- About the ultimate gift.
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- For god so loved the world that he gave his one and only son.
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- With that, i want to bring in our guest tonight.
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- He's the president of wallbuilders.
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- Tim barton, welcome back to our program, tim.
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- Thank you. good to be with you,
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- Tim. i know you're an expert on our country's
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- History, and we'll discuss that a bit more in a moment.
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- But i want to start with any thoughts
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- That you might have on what we can do
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- For our christian brothers and sisters around the globe.
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- You know,
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- I think we take our freedom for granted here far too often.
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- But for people in nigeria, north korea, syria
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- And so many other countries, they have to hide their faith.
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- They can't ever sleep without fearing
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- Who might come through their front door.
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- Can you help me put that into context for those listening?
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- Yeah, it's one of the things that we have.
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- We have been so blessed in america
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- That we don't recognize how special our system is.
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- And what's happening in nigeria is a really good contrast
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- For how unfortunately, christians throughout really
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- Since jesus's time, have had to navigate so much life.
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- It's one of the things to connect the dots for america.
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- And then i'll go to some of the nigerian thought in america.
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- We have recognized that we have rights
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- Given to us by our creator,
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- And that government's job is to protect those rights.
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- One of the things i would want to point out for anybody
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- Listening or watching us, though, is that
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- If you look for the world, we believe that everybody in
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- The world has the same god given rights
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- Life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.
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- Everybody has those rights.
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- But what is
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- Different is in america, those rights
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- Are politically protected.
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- When we look at places like nigeria
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- And you see the
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- Corruption of the government, you see an ideology.
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- And for many cases there's islamic nations,
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- There's all kinds of other beliefs and nations
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- That actually at times encouraged
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- Some of this persecution,
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- Some of this targeting the murder, the human trafficking.
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- It's actually promoted in different worldviews
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- And ideologies.
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- And i think we lose sight of the fact that even though god
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- Has given the same rights that he wants, all of his kids
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- Have the freedom of religion to have the freedom of speech.
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- If you don't have a government
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- That protects those rights, you don't get to freely enjoy
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- Those rights.
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- And i think this is a really good
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- Depiction of what can happen
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- If as christians, we don't pay attention to who
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- Our government officials are, our elected officials,
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- And the idea that ideas have consequences.
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- One of the things we've heard as christians for a long time
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- Is that there's lots of roads to heaven and lots of roads
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- To god, and all religions are basically the same.
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- Now, of course, pastor,
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- You and i know that is incorrect on all kinds of levels,
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- But this is where we see again
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- That ideas have consequences, and different beliefs
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- And religions and worldviews have very drastic consequences.
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- And so i would say, first of all, the things
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- That you have already said many times,
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- We need to pray for our brothers and sisters around the world
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- For all that's going on.
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- Fortunately, we do have right now
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- Some political leaders in our nation
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- That that are aware of some of what's going on,
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- And they're putting
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- Some economic pressure on some of these nations to do things.
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- If you go back to previous presidential administrations,
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- We didn't always have elected officials
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- That paid attention and tried to help defend
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- The christian ideology and people
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- That were persecuted because of their christian beliefs.
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- We didn't always have political leaders
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- That helped in those times.
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- Right now we do, which is a major praise god moment for us.
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- We should thank god for the trump administration
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- And the leaders that he has around them.
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- But certainly it's it's a wake up call.
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- It should be a wake up call for us
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- That the rest of the world
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- Does not enjoy the blessings and benefits that we do.
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- And so we should be very attentive and very prayerful
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- For our brothers
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- And sisters around the world and then find organizations,
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- Non-profits, ngos, groups that are working to bring aid,
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- Effort, assistance, relief and help where we can.
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- Amen.
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- Well, you've spoken for years about how christianity helped
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- Shape america's freedoms.
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- I'm quite sure
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- A lot of young people
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- Here have never been taught that in our schools.
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- How did the young people you speak with respond
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- When you begin to show them the real truth of our history?
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- Well, it's really encouraging.
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- Pastor jackson,
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- We've had a chance
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- To talk many times,
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- And i believe that we are
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- In the middle of a revival in our nation.
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- I think it's super encouraging. right.
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- And we've seen a lot of data
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- Even over the last couple of months
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- With bible cells increasing and in church attendance,
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- And especially coming from young men.
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- I am very optimistic for what god is doing in this nation.
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- And so when i talk to young people, most most of the people
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- That i deal with,
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- Even though they can be very passionate,
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- They're usually pretty ignorant
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- Of the true history of the nation.
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- And so when you can just walk in through things
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- That are well documented,
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- Not even historically disputed things,
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- Just things they've never heard of,
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- They're usually very receptive and open to it.
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- And especially because we live in an era now
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- Where so many people know that the media has been so dishonest
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- To them, and really, even the medical field,
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- The academic world, it's been dishonest
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- When you can show them original source
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- Documentation that affirms the biblical foundation of a nation.
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- They are usually very open and receptive to it
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- Because they're seeing something that is really undisputable
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- In many ways.
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- And it's again, it's
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- One of the encouraging things for me
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- Because we're seeing god move
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- In incredible ways in this nation.
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- There's a reason during this season,
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- We should be encouraged, obviously, that jesus came
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- And that's what we celebrate, but that god is
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- Still on the move in the world and in this nation.
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- And that's a lot of what i see when i get to talk
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- To young people about the true foundation of this nation.
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- That is awesome.
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- You know, our awareness is important,
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- And we all see the disturbing pictures
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- Of the worldwide migration that's taking place.
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- It's not just a 20 million
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- Who were allowed in here by the biden administration,
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- But throughout europe and elsewhere.
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- I'm sure there are some
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- That are looking for opportunity,
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- But i also think there's an intentional
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- Clash of worldviews unfolding around our earth.
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- Am i seeing that correctly?
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- I think you're exactly right.
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- One of the things that we know, just as an example,
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- In in the muslim ideology in the islamic world,
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- One of the things that is taught
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- And promoted is that you need to go to
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- Just like we have a great commission,
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- The muslims have their version of the great commission
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- Looks very different
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- Than the christian one, but their idea is going to a nation
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- And they want to take over that nation for islam
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- And ultimately that means removing the constitution
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- And changing the structure and system of government.
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- But they want to be very peaceful when they go there.
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- And then once they reach a certain percentage threshold,
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- Then they begin expressively trying to assert more dominance
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- And will an opinion.
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- And this is what we're seeing happen in europe right now,
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- Where the european world largely was a world
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- Shaped western civilization, was shaped by christianity.
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- And that's why
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- There's been so much freedom and
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- There's been so much tolerance, there's been so much stability.
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- But when you look at where some of these islamic
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- Organizations have come in and really altered and changed
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- The structure of the fabric
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- Of these other nations, and now, especially in europe,
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- You're seeing the removal of the idea of the freedom of speech,
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- Of the freedom of religion.
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- And we can go down a very long list of those things.
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- This is something that is happening
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- Real world time around us.
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- And it's something, as christians,
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- That we should be very attentive of the founding fathers.
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- They definitely believe that we should have
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- An immigration policy where there were laws in place.
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- In fact, in 1790 they did the naturalization act,
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- Which was the first explanation in in law, legally speaking,
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- Of what immigration
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- Should look like, of what the process was,
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- Of how long it took to become a citizen.
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- And so they laid out there should be immigration
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- Laws in place.
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- And part of the founding fathers views of immigration laws is
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- They wanted to make sure that we were bringing in people
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- That were going to assimilate
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- To the american ideals, our values, our structure.
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- And the founding fathers were very clear
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- That our nation was built on
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- Religious and moral principles shaped by the bible
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- And christianity,
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- And that of our nation was to succeed going forward.
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- That's the kind of nation we had to continue
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- To promote and build and right now,
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- When we are opening up our immigration doors
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- And not even vetting the people that are coming through in,
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- These people that are coming in have a very different ideology,
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- And their goal
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- Is to fundamentally transform and change america.
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- It's a very dangerous thought for us
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- Because just like we mentioned, if you look over nigeria,
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- The people of nigeria,
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- They have the exact same inalienable rights
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- We have in america.
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- The difference is in america,
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- Those rights are politically protected,
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- But they're protected
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- Based off a christian ideology and worldview.
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- You don't see the same protections in muslim nations.
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- And so if we change
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- The foundation of our nation and we become an islamic nation,
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- We can expect to see those same
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- And animal rights removed, restricted,
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- Because that's not what islam teaches.
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- And it's why,
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- As christians, we should be very aware
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- And attentive
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- To our immigration policy
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- And learn some lessons
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- That europe is learning the hard way right now.
- 00:10:45.928 --> 00:10:48.330
- Amen. well, tim, we need to take a short break.
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- Can you stay for another segment?
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- Absolutely. we'll be right back.
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- Absolutely. we'll be right back.
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- We're back now with the president of wallbuilders,
- 00:11:05.221 --> 00:11:07.656
- Tim barton.
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- You said something when you were speaking at a church recently,
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- And i quote, it's
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- Been historically documented
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- That the most influential voice of the founding fathers
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- Was their pastors,
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- And the most influential source was the bible.
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- I'm concerned that not enough people here either
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- Remember or understand that.
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- What are you seeing when you make statements like that?
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- Yeah, you're exactly right.
- 00:11:28.744 --> 00:11:30.513
- Most people have never been taught this,
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- So it's usually new for them.
- 00:11:33.048 --> 00:11:34.416
- But i can walk through the historic documentation for this.
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- There's a couple of books i will point people to that.
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- That way you don't take my word for this.
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- You can go look this up. this is historically documented.
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- There's a book, number one called the origins
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- Of american constitutionalism.
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- And it was a professor
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- From the university of houston who led the study.
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- His name was donald butts.
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- He worked with other professors,
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- With grad students, and they wanted to see
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- What was the most quoted source by the founding fathers.
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- And as they do this research project, it took them years
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- To go through.
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- They found thousands of quotes, and then they started tracking
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- Those quotes back to the original source.
- 00:12:08.150 --> 00:12:10.085
- What they discovered was that the bible
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- Was the most quoted source by the founding fathers
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- In their writings,
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- That the founding fathers quote the bible
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- More than anything else, and the bible was quoted
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- Four times more than the second most quoted source.
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- And so what they identified is that the document,
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- The source that shaped the founding fathers
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- Thinking more than anything else was the bible.
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- And this wasn't a study done
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- By a christian professor at a christian university.
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- No, this was a secular professor at a secular university
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- Who was just intellectually
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- Honest enough to tell what he found.
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- And then another book i would point people to
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- Is one by alice baldwin.
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- She was a professor at duke university.
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- She actually started the woman's program there.
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- She was there in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s.
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- But she wrote a book
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- Called the new england clergy and the american revolution.
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- And in her book,
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- She identified that if you look back
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- At the most significant voice
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- In the founding fathers, what she said is as an example,
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- When the founding fathers
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- Came together to do the declaration,
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- She said, every single issue in the declaration,
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- Every right asserted in the declaration,
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- Had been preached from american pulpits prior to 1763,
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- So much so that the claim she makes
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- Is when the founding fathers came together.
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- They didn't come up with a single unique idea.
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- Instead, they just repeated all the things they had been
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- Learning from their pastors.
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- But what's great about her book
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- Is that in the back of the book, there's an appendix section,
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- And in the appendix section, it actually goes to
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- A listing of sermons where she documents
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- This pastor gave this sermon. and here's this right
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- That appeared in the declaration.
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- So she literally is laying out the declaration via
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- The sermons from these early pastors,
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- So that she's saying, you don't need to take my word for it.
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- Here's the actual sermons.
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- But part of why this matters is
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- When people look at america, most people have no idea
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- The reason that america has been the most stable, free,
- 00:14:01.063 --> 00:14:03.599
- Prosperous, successful nation in the history of the world
- 00:14:03.599 --> 00:14:07.369
- Is because god's ways work.
- 00:14:07.369 --> 00:14:09.305
- When you base your life on the bible,
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- When you are listening
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- To your pastor more than you listen to the world,
- 00:14:12.274 --> 00:14:14.677
- Your life is going to go better. well guess what?
- 00:14:14.677 --> 00:14:16.879
- So does your nation.
- 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:18.380
- And when we can show that this is documented, in fact,
- 00:14:18.380 --> 00:14:21.483
- We can take you to hundreds of founding father letters
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- Where you can read as they're giving an exhortation
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- Based on some bible passage, based on
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- What they have been learning from their own bible study.
- 00:14:31.593 --> 00:14:34.430
- This is a normal thing for the founding fathers,
- 00:14:34.430 --> 00:14:36.732
- But most people have never read their letters,
- 00:14:36.732 --> 00:14:38.767
- And so they don't know how prevalent it is.
- 00:14:38.767 --> 00:14:40.569
- And what we love to do is bring out the old documents
- 00:14:40.569 --> 00:14:43.372
- And some of these old letters and say,
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- Guys, here's this letter that george washington wrote.
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- Here's this letter that john adams
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- Or thomas jefferson or benjamin franklin wrote.
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- And look what they're arguing based on this bible verse.
- 00:14:50.446 --> 00:14:53.615
- And when people see that, it's quite impactful.
- 00:14:53.615 --> 00:14:55.985
- But again, i would say what's important for
- 00:14:55.985 --> 00:14:57.653
- Americans to know, the reason we've enjoyed so much stability,
- 00:14:57.653 --> 00:15:01.824
- Prosperity and success is because god's ways work.
- 00:15:01.824 --> 00:15:05.294
- And the more secular we've become
- 00:15:05.294 --> 00:15:07.196
- In the last several decades, the more struggles we've had,
- 00:15:07.196 --> 00:15:10.899
- Which means what we need to do to hopefully once again enjoy
- 00:15:10.899 --> 00:15:14.870
- That prosperity, stability, success, the blessings of god,
- 00:15:14.870 --> 00:15:18.674
- Or go back to doing it god's way.
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- Which means
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- We need to get back
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- To knowing god's
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- Word and listening
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- More to the voice
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- Of our pastors, then the voice of culture around us.
- 00:15:24.747 --> 00:15:28.350
- I mean, you have out preached the preacher did a good job.
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- You know,
- 00:15:31.620 --> 00:15:32.554
- Even as we head into the christmas season,
- 00:15:32.554 --> 00:15:33.756
- There doesn't seem to be any slowing
- 00:15:33.756 --> 00:15:34.923
- Down of the political turmoil.
- 00:15:34.923 --> 00:15:36.725
- The socialist who's about to become
- 00:15:36.725 --> 00:15:38.193
- Mayor of new york city is already coaching
- 00:15:38.193 --> 00:15:40.462
- People on how to continue to break the law,
- 00:15:40.462 --> 00:15:43.098
- Using his guidance to push back on ice.
- 00:15:43.098 --> 00:15:46.001
- Governor of minnesota is trying to defend the somalis
- 00:15:46.001 --> 00:15:48.470
- Who stole from america's taxpayers
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- And sent what they took back home to their rebel friends.
- 00:15:50.839 --> 00:15:53.942
- We've also
- 00:15:54.243 --> 00:15:55.511
- Now learned from a recent guest that a consortium of wealthy,
- 00:15:55.511 --> 00:15:57.880
- Very progressive investors is fueling the anti-isis
- 00:15:57.880 --> 00:16:01.216
- Efforts, and the list goes on and on.
- 00:16:01.216 --> 00:16:04.019
- Do you agree that it's time for an awakening among believers?
- 00:16:04.019 --> 00:16:06.422
- Time for some real courage and a big dose of fresh faith
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- That's targeted at those evil forces?
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- Absolutely.
- 00:16:12.728 --> 00:16:13.328
- One of the biggest lies
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- That has been perpetrated in our culture,
- 00:16:14.963 --> 00:16:17.633
- Really, in christianity
- 00:16:17.633 --> 00:16:18.901
- The last several years, is don't talk about faith or politics.
- 00:16:18.901 --> 00:16:22.638
- Those are two things you stay away from.
- 00:16:22.638 --> 00:16:24.606
- That's the problem.
- 00:16:24.606 --> 00:16:26.175
- If we would have more honest conversations about faith,
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- Which is where truth come from
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- And about politics,
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- Which is how we enact the truth that we know to be
- 00:16:32.614 --> 00:16:35.617
- The foundation of our nation.
- 00:16:35.617 --> 00:16:37.052
- If we would have more honest conversations about faith
- 00:16:37.052 --> 00:16:39.988
- And about politics, we wouldn't be in the mess.
- 00:16:39.988 --> 00:16:42.024
- And as you're pointing out,
- 00:16:42.024 --> 00:16:43.392
- We're seeing lived out in states all over the nation right now.
- 00:16:43.392 --> 00:16:46.495
- As christians, we should have way more conversations.
- 00:16:46.495 --> 00:16:49.364
- What does the bible say in general?
- 00:16:49.364 --> 00:16:51.100
- What is our faith built on?
- 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.301
- And then how does that apply to politics?
- 00:16:52.301 --> 00:16:54.603
- And if we'd have more
- 00:16:54.603 --> 00:16:55.537
- Of those conversations at the dinner table,
- 00:16:55.537 --> 00:16:57.306
- America would be better off.
- 00:16:57.306 --> 00:16:59.007
- Tim, you're using your knowledge of history
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- To open a big door of faith.
- 00:17:01.477 --> 00:17:03.245
- We need to take another break.
- 00:17:03.245 --> 00:17:04.346
- But could you stay for one more segment?
- 00:17:04.346 --> 00:17:06.348
- I would love to.
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- Thank you.
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- We'll be right back.
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- We'll be right back.
- 00:17:16.000 --> 00:17:19.396
- We're back now learning a bit of our history
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- From the president of wallbuilders, tim barton.
- 00:17:22.900 --> 00:17:25.703
- What a go back to what i mentioned
- 00:17:25.703 --> 00:17:26.937
- At the top of the show, president trump,
- 00:17:26.937 --> 00:17:28.706
- He told the president of nigeria
- 00:17:28.706 --> 00:17:30.307
- That unless he stops the terrorist
- 00:17:30.307 --> 00:17:32.443
- From attacking christians, president
- 00:17:32.443 --> 00:17:34.211
- Trump is going to send in troops to turn things around.
- 00:17:34.211 --> 00:17:37.248
- If that works, do you have any sense
- 00:17:37.248 --> 00:17:38.849
- Of whether he'll do that elsewhere?
- 00:17:38.849 --> 00:17:40.651
- We're christians are prime targets these days.
- 00:17:40.651 --> 00:17:43.921
- Yeah.
- 00:17:44.155 --> 00:17:45.222
- I think the encouraging thing is it shows president
- 00:17:45.222 --> 00:17:46.524
- Trump's motivation that he wants to help
- 00:17:46.524 --> 00:17:48.559
- Christians around the world now.
- 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:50.394
- I think a lot of people have been triggered because
- 00:17:50.394 --> 00:17:53.764
- Some of us have caught on to president trump's
- 00:17:53.764 --> 00:17:55.966
- Eye game a little bit more that, you know, when he
- 00:17:55.966 --> 00:17:58.736
- When the israel-gaza conflict was happening
- 00:17:58.736 --> 00:18:00.838
- And he said, hey, maybe we'll just go
- 00:18:00.838 --> 00:18:02.106
- Build a golf course in gaza. and people's
- 00:18:02.106 --> 00:18:04.475
- Heads were exploding, going, you can't do that.
- 00:18:04.475 --> 00:18:07.344
- President trump at times
- 00:18:07.344 --> 00:18:08.779
- States very strongly things that he might not actually do.
- 00:18:08.779 --> 00:18:12.750
- But just to let you know, he has some initiative behind this.
- 00:18:12.750 --> 00:18:15.686
- He cares about it.
- 00:18:15.686 --> 00:18:16.620
- And sometimes it's a negotiating tactic.
- 00:18:16.620 --> 00:18:18.989
- I don't
- 00:18:18.989 --> 00:18:19.790
- I don't know that president trump
- 00:18:19.790 --> 00:18:20.925
- Would actually be sending christians to nigeria or,
- 00:18:20.925 --> 00:18:21.926
- Excuse me, send a troops to nigeria
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- To protect those christians.
- 00:18:23.627 --> 00:18:24.495
- But it does indicate he is concerned
- 00:18:24.495 --> 00:18:26.230
- And wants and protected,
- 00:18:26.230 --> 00:18:27.198
- And he might do some economic
- 00:18:27.198 --> 00:18:28.899
- Sanctions, things that actually
- 00:18:28.899 --> 00:18:30.000
- Would be very impactful for the nation.
- 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:32.002
- And i think, again, this is overall good news.
- 00:18:32.002 --> 00:18:34.438
- And i think it indicates that if this kind of stuff
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- Becomes evident
- 00:18:37.942 --> 00:18:39.176
- That other nations are allowing these these evils to happen
- 00:18:39.176 --> 00:18:42.613
- As christians in their nations,
- 00:18:42.613 --> 00:18:43.614
- That president trump will be motivated
- 00:18:43.614 --> 00:18:45.416
- To help protect and defend christians around the world.
- 00:18:45.416 --> 00:18:47.785
- And this is such a praise god moment
- 00:18:47.785 --> 00:18:51.155
- That we have a president who actually,
- 00:18:51.155 --> 00:18:53.190
- Instead of saying that christianity is bad
- 00:18:53.190 --> 00:18:55.526
- And we should apologize for it, is saying no, we should defend
- 00:18:55.526 --> 00:18:58.329
- Christians around the world.
- 00:18:58.329 --> 00:19:00.231
- It is such a relief.
- 00:19:00.231 --> 00:19:01.332
- And obviously president trump is not a perfect man,
- 00:19:01.332 --> 00:19:03.634
- But look how god is using him.
- 00:19:03.634 --> 00:19:05.703
- And i'm so grateful for how god is using him.
- 00:19:05.703 --> 00:19:07.972
- And again, the way he's exerting leverage to try
- 00:19:07.972 --> 00:19:10.841
- To protect christians around the world is really encouraging.
- 00:19:10.841 --> 00:19:14.178
- Tim barton, i
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- Thank you for reminding us of our heritage of faith.
- 00:19:15.679 --> 00:19:18.749
- I pray we've got the courage to live it out.
- 00:19:18.749 --> 00:19:20.684
- Hope you come back and be with us again.
- 00:19:20.684 --> 00:19:22.853
- I would love to.
- 00:19:22.853 --> 00:19:24.221
- I'll be right back in just a moment. but.
- 00:19:24.221 --> 00:19:33.002
- I'll be right back in just a moment. but.
- 00:19:33.002 --> 00:19:35.902
- Thank you for spending a few minutes of your day with us.
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- You never missed a live broadcast.
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- Just a reminder, you can always go to aj now.
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- Dot com.
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- There's a full archive there of all the programs.
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- You can watch them at your leisure,
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- Share them with a friend.
- 00:19:48.482 --> 00:19:49.783
- It's a good way to start a conversation.
- 00:19:49.783 --> 00:19:52.319
- We're in the midst of the christmas season.
- 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:54.254
- Reasons for joy and celebration and sometimes things
- 00:19:54.254 --> 00:19:57.124
- To be overcome.
- 00:19:57.124 --> 00:19:58.458
- We've been reminded of our heritage of faith today.
- 00:19:58.458 --> 00:20:00.861
- If you and i
- 00:20:00.861 --> 00:20:01.995
- Will live that faith out into the midst of our world,
- 00:20:01.995 --> 00:20:04.865
- In this culture,
- 00:20:04.865 --> 00:20:05.799
- In this season,
- 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:07.034
- I'm quite confident that our lord is still in the throne
- 00:20:07.034 --> 00:20:09.870
- And we have reasons for hope and to celebrate.
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- I'm alan jackson, i pray you have a wonderful evening.
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