Allen Jackson: Healthcare Fraud | Allen Jackson Now

January 21, 2026 | 20:35

Douglas Holtz-Eakin joins Allen Jackson to discuss current events.

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Allen Jackson NOW | Allen Jackson: Healthcare Fraud | Allen Jackson Now | January 21, 2026
  • Well, good evening and welcome to nashville.
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  • I'm alan jackson.
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  • You know, most of us have heard the phrase government fraud
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  • So much over the years that it doesn't really register
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  • With us anymore.
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  • President reagan went after food
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  • Stamp fraud when people were using their stamps to buy
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  • Alcohol, and cigarets made a lot of headlines.
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  • The pentagon fraud that we heard about
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  • So many years ago, you know, those were headlines
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  • About a $700 hammer or the $640 toilet seat.
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  • Well, then they started
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  • Ordering coffeemakers that cost more than $7,000.
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  • Well, roll forward to 2026.
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  • And fraud and what they call improper payments.
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  • Well, now they're a full 10% of the federal budget.
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  • That means that $10 of every $100
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  • That you pay in taxes, it just goes out the door
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  • And there's nothing to show for it.
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  • What if that got fixed
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  • And the irs told you
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  • That you could shave 10% off
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  • The taxes
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  • That you're going to pay this year
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  • So that instead of paying $10,000, you could send $9,000
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  • To the treasury department and you could keep the difference.
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  • No programs would suffer and everyone would be happy
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  • Except for the fraudsters, like the ones in minnesota
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  • Who have already taken somewhere
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  • In the neighborhood of $9 billion of our money.
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  • Billions of dollars.
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  • That's billions with a b of our dollars being
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  • Fraudulently taken from the american people.
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  • You know, fraud is just a fancy word for stealing.
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  • They are stealing.
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  • They're stealing billions of our dollars.
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  • And for the most part, there's not much outrage.
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  • You know, i don't hear any significant amount of angst
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  • Coming from our leaders about this.
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  • I would expect the governors and the mayors of the state,
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  • Where billions of dollars are being stolen from taxpayers,
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  • To be outraged at that, regardless
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  • Of the political party they're from.
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  • But that's not the response we've seen.
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  • I'd love to hear our
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  • Leaders say, we're going to stop collecting income taxes
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  • Until we can reduce fraud by 50% or more.
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  • Well, unfortunately, the fraud that's happening in minnesota
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  • Seems to be just the tip of the iceberg.
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  • Now, some media outlets are reporting 500 to $600
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  • Billion a year, are being taken, stolen from our government.
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  • That's not a sustainable pattern, folks.
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  • Let's just say it's half that.
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  • Maybe it's only $300 billion.
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  • That means there's hundreds of thousands of people benefiting
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  • From stolen funds, directly or indirectly.
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  • This is a widespread problem.
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  • This isn't something just in minnesota.
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  • This isn't some small government over expenditure.
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  • If we're going to see the fraud, stop the lawlessness, stop.
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  • We're going to have to have the courage to say,
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  • That's not a good thing,
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  • Even if we've been benefiting from it.
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  • You see,
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  • We can't continue to steal and imagine
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  • That we can live in the blessings of god.
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  • It just doesn't work.
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  • We've been so deeply impacted by the lawlessness,
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  • And it really shouldn't be a partizan issue.
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  • This isn't about what political party you endorse.
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  • I think we can all agree that stealing isn't good.
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  • You can't flourish
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  • In a home, in a relationship where someone is constantly,
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  • Consistently, unapologetically stealing.
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  • And not just.
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  • By the way, in case you've forgotten,
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  • Stealing is addressed in the ten commandments.
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  • This is not a new idea.
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  • You know, there's another idea that's broken into the public
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  • Debate lately from our change agent, president trump.
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  • Greenland is in the news.
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  • Greenland.
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  • This is at the heart of the emerging arctic battleground.
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  • Melting ice is opening new shipping lanes and resource
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  • Routes, or routes
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  • That are filled with russian and chinese ships.
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  • Those ships have to pass by greenland
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  • In order to reach the atlantic.
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  • We have adversaries like china and russia who are aggressively
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  • Trying to encroach on our homeland.
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  • If greenland isn't secure, then america, the eu and nato,
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  • They're all vulnerable.
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  • If the people in the e.u.
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  • That we are paying with our dollars,
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  • That we're defending with our young men and women's lives,
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  • If the eu is fighting
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  • Those things that are in their own best interest,
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  • That i believe the u.s.
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  • Has to discipline them,
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  • Denmark and greenland, they'll prosper with whatever
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  • Emerges out of this discussion, in this debate.
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  • Yet they make trump out to be some crazed dictator
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  • That's trying to take over the world.
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  • There are clear indications that we're living through
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  • A time of almost unprecedented manipulation and deception.
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  • I'm going to suggest to you that lies
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  • And a refusal to acknowledge the truth
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  • Is more about spiritual conflict than it is political conflict.
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  • The reality is god's
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  • Moving in the earth, and we as christ followers,
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  • We have to track with him,
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  • Find the courage
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  • To tell the truth, and let our own voices
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  • Be heard in our own spheres of influence.
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  • Well, our goal for this program, it's to serve you
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  • By presenting you with the truth,
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  • Providing a biblical worldview to try to interpret
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  • All the craziness this craziness is unfolding around us.
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  • In a moment,
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  • We're going to discuss all of this with the guest
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  • Who knows the ins and outs of government spending.
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  • He was the director of the congressional budget office.
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  • It is now the head of the american action forum.
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  • Doug holtz-eakin joins us in just a moment.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • We're joined now by doug holtz-eakin.
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  • He's the former
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  • Director of the cbo during george bush's time in office.
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  • He's also the founder of the american action forum.
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  • Welcome back. doug.
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  • Thank you for having me.
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  • You've had a close eye on government
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  • Budget issues, including the fraud for a long time,
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  • Not just in minnesota, but nationwide.
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  • Were you surprised by the extent of how much of it.
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  • It's already been uncovered in minnesota,
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  • And that went on for so long?
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  • I was surprised at the scale and organization.
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  • You know,
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  • We've seen things like this before
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  • In medicare or across the country.
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  • Organized crime has systemically set up,
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  • False doctors offices, sent in fake invoices,
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  • Gotten paid, and then disappeared.
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  • But this was, on a scale at a local level
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  • That i haven't seen before.
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  • So i was a little surprised by that.
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  • But the existence of it. no.
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  • It's it's really hard when you start putting taxpayer
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  • Money out there
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  • To keep, the nefarious from his reaction to it.
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  • That's that's just plain and simple.
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  • Well, it certainly looks suspicious
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  • Of the governor of minnesota and the mayor of minneapolis
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  • Have come down on the side of the people
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  • Who are here illegally,
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  • Including those who have been stealing from the government.
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  • Should we assume that this is how it's grown nationally?
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  • One hand taking care of the other
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  • With taxpayer money as the currency?
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  • I don't think we're going to see this in 50
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  • States in the columbia, but we did see it in minnesota.
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  • We'll we'll probably see it somewhere else as well.
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  • You know, if you stake your political career on the,
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  • Those who are here illegally,
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  • You then have to defend the things that they do.
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  • And that's a bad bet
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  • Because they came here illegally to start with.
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  • And the rest is is history.
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  • So, i don't understand it.
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  • I won't pretend to, it's not a winning political strategy.
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  • The governor's had to,
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  • You know, suspends his race for another term.
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  • And they, you know, the voters now understand what's going on,
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  • And that's not going to be helpful.
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  • Isn't it true that the biggest part
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  • Of stealing from government is in the improper
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  • Payments made through medicare and medicaid?
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  • Is it fixable to worry about medicare, medicaid?
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  • Yeah.
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  • Does congress need to do something
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  • While they're looking at some options for the health care?
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  • Yes. i think this should be at the top of their list.
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  • You know, in the one big, beautiful bill
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  • That you heard so much about last year,
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  • You know, one of the key provisions was in medicaid,
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  • And this got labeled
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  • Somehow as taking health insurance
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  • Away from low income individuals was anything but that.
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  • It was essentially a scheme by which states were pumping
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  • Money from the federal taxpayer into their states.
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  • And, you know, they just put put a,
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  • A lid
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  • They didn't even eliminate they put a lid on
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  • How much you let a state game, the system
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  • That it was just getting it pure and simple.
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  • So it's going on in medicaid.
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  • In medicare, it's been a problem for a long, long time.
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  • As i mentioned earlier, we've seen, you know,
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  • They call it an improper payments.
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  • And sometimes this are just salad fraud.
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  • So, those are big programs.
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  • Medicare and social security are one of the one half
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  • Of all federal non-interest spending in the next ten years.
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  • Making sure those checks are legitimate is important.
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  • Well, some people think it's possible
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  • To grow the country out of debt by eliminating all fraud,
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  • Though most people think that would save about 30%.
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  • It's still a pretty big number.
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  • Was president trump on the right track
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  • When he brought in elon musk and put together the doj's office?
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  • I think he had the right idea.
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  • I think if you're going
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  • To do the things necessary to control the federal debt,
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  • And that means
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  • Really slowing the growth of these entitlement programs,
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  • Really, cutting back on some of the transfer programs
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  • To, to farmers and low income individuals on food stamps
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  • And the like.
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  • You know, these are steps that,
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  • Some people are going to be, you know, unhappy with.
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  • Well, before you start getting into that business,
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  • You better be sure that
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  • Every dollar spent is legitimate
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  • So that you don't have widespread fraud.
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  • And that was exactly what those was invented to, to find.
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  • I'm not sure they went about it the best way,
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  • I'll be honest about that.
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  • And i and i think the effort got shortcut was supposed to go on
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  • For two years. it's been suspended.
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  • I think the search for more efficient government,
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  • Less fraud, more technological advance should be a 24 over
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  • Seven, 360 days a year for the for the future kind of effort.
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  • And it should be built into the way we think about,
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  • Running the government.
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  • Well, house speaker mike
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  • Johnson says that republicans have done
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  • What they promised on the economy.
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  • Listen to how he put it.
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  • We did exactly what we said we were going to do
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  • Bring down inflation, cut taxes and grow the economy.
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  • And that's what all the indicators are saying.
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  • Now inflation is going down.
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  • Gas prices are at a five year low.
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  • The growth rate over 5%.
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  • That would have been unimaginable.
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  • Even the economist,
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  • Even conservative economists, didn't think that was possible.
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  • Now that we're seeing the gdp growth, inflation
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  • At least stable and hiring holding up, are you feeling
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  • Any better about the trajectory for the economy this year?
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  • I am i really didn't think we'd have this strong,
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  • Top line growth, 4.2% in the third quarter.
  • 00:10:23.226 --> 00:10:26.496
  • Certainly there were times when the labor market
  • 00:10:26.496 --> 00:10:28.164
  • Looked like it was faltering.
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  • But, you know,
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  • I really do think we can do even better than we are.
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  • You know, we've created,
  • 00:10:34.104 --> 00:10:35.572
  • Most, most of the jobs in the healthcare sector.
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  • I'd like to see broad based job creation.
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  • I'd like to see inflation back to two.
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  • There's no reason why we can't do those things.
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  • And i think certainly the congress has done
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  • The things they came to do.
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  • Unless a fan of the tariffs than than some are
  • 00:10:46.916 --> 00:10:49.352
  • That's that's my background.
  • 00:10:49.352 --> 00:10:50.620
  • But i think other than that, this record is really,
  • 00:10:50.620 --> 00:10:53.790
  • Really, really strong.
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  • We had art laffer on recently.
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  • And he thinks outside of any fraud clawback,
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  • We could turn the deficit around considerably
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  • By putting everything into economic growth.
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  • What's your feeling on that?
  • 00:11:06.536 --> 00:11:08.738
  • You're going to need every ounce of growth you can get.
  • 00:11:08.738 --> 00:11:11.341
  • But it's not the only solution.
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  • Like you can't just get better growth
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  • And have have that solve the problem.
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  • And the reason is that medicare and social security
  • 00:11:16.880 --> 00:11:19.449
  • Grow really fast, 7 to 7 and half percent
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  • For medicare, 5 to 5 and a half for social security.
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  • And we're not going to get sustained growth of 7%.
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  • So you can get all the growth you can get,
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  • And then you start getting serious about the fraud,
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  • The growth rate of the program
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  • And making sure that we're getting, quality
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  • Healthcare for our dollars out of those programs.
  • 00:11:35.765 --> 00:11:37.967
  • Doug, we need to take a short break.
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  • Can you stay with us for another segment?
  • 00:11:40.003 --> 00:11:42.071
  • We love it.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • I'll be right back.
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  • We're back now with the president
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  • Of the american action forum, doug holtz-eakin.
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  • I saw a disturbing picture recently.
  • 00:12:00.225 --> 00:12:02.460
  • Was the canadian prime minister and the chinese leader,
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  • Xi jinping,
  • 00:12:05.697 --> 00:12:06.898
  • Standing together announcing a new strategic partnership.
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  • This is how the canadian prime minister explained it.
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  • And this is a relationship
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  • That has been distant and uncertain for nearly a decade
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  • That is held back investment.
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  • It's stalled business growth and cost canadian workers
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  • Good opportunities.
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  • And it has had the consequence of leaving us
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  • Even more dependent on our largest trading partner.
  • 00:12:32.624 --> 00:12:35.861
  • And that's why, immediately after the election, canada's
  • 00:12:36.995 --> 00:12:39.564
  • New government began
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  • To recalibrate our relationship with china strategically,
  • 00:12:40.765 --> 00:12:45.370
  • Pragmatically
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  • And decisively.
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  • China is going to lower tariffs in exchange for canada
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  • Importing thousands of chinese electric vehicles.
  • 00:12:53.144 --> 00:12:56.281
  • Maybe it's good for them, but is it bad for the united states?
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  • Look, we just saw the president,
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  • Make a really, really notable effort to take the chinese
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  • Foothold in venezuela and sweep it away.
  • 00:13:07.259 --> 00:13:10.395
  • To have that foothold be north of our border.
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  • It's not a great prospect, in my view.
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  • Something that i hope they can take care of
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  • In the process of renegotiating the united states mexico
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  • Canadian trade agreement.
  • 00:13:21.239 --> 00:13:22.207
  • That's due to be renegotiated this year,
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  • Something i'm sure is on high on the president's checklist.
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  • And and having those conversations
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  • With the canadians,
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  • A united front toward china, i think, will be a really,
  • 00:13:30.348 --> 00:13:33.518
  • Really valuable outcome.
  • 00:13:33.518 --> 00:13:34.719
  • Well, as you just mentioned to the south, president
  • 00:13:35.754 --> 00:13:37.589
  • Trump has made clear that he wanted to break the link
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  • Between china and venezuela.
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  • And he's begun to do that by capturing maduro
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  • And cutting off many of the oil shipments.
  • 00:13:44.596 --> 00:13:46.731
  • But he did say that once venezuela starts up
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  • Drilling again, much of the income
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  • Will have to be spent on american products.
  • 00:13:50.335 --> 00:13:52.737
  • Is there any way to measure
  • 00:13:52.737 --> 00:13:53.838
  • How that trade off will benefit our own economy?
  • 00:13:53.838 --> 00:13:57.142
  • Every time we talk about trade agreements with,
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  • This the southern hemisphere, what you end up with
  • 00:14:01.179 --> 00:14:04.082
  • Is a situation where they benefit greatly.
  • 00:14:04.082 --> 00:14:06.584
  • This is a very large, strong economy, the best in the world.
  • 00:14:06.584 --> 00:14:09.854
  • And we benefit a little.
  • 00:14:09.854 --> 00:14:11.423
  • And that's how it's going to be with venezuela.
  • 00:14:11.423 --> 00:14:12.958
  • That's essentially how it was with mexico.
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  • So the benefits for the united states
  • 00:14:15.927 --> 00:14:18.196
  • Have to be in other areas, strategic locations,
  • 00:14:18.196 --> 00:14:21.800
  • National security,
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  • Being able to to influence the future
  • 00:14:23.969 --> 00:14:26.905
  • Path of those countries, it's not going to be the dollars
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  • And cents to come out of economic relationships.
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  • We're told that the white house
  • 00:14:32.410 --> 00:14:33.745
  • Has plans for more affordability this year.
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  • Some moves have been made to loosen up the housing market.
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  • The president's made no secret of his desire for the federal
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  • Reserve to lower rates at least one more time.
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  • Are you comfortable with government
  • 00:14:46.091 --> 00:14:47.359
  • Incentives to strengthen the housing market,
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  • Or would you rather let
  • 00:14:49.794 --> 00:14:50.895
  • Things just play out through the market forces alone?
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  • I'm a big believer in market forces.
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  • Government centers have in place,
  • 00:14:56.167 --> 00:14:57.535
  • But as long as those incentives are on the supply side,
  • 00:14:57.535 --> 00:15:00.372
  • I'm a little happier
  • 00:15:00.372 --> 00:15:01.473
  • If they're just more throwing cash at the problem.
  • 00:15:01.473 --> 00:15:04.576
  • All that will do is give the current,
  • 00:15:04.576 --> 00:15:07.078
  • Beneficiaries a little more money
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  • To buy a house and drive up the price of the house.
  • 00:15:08.747 --> 00:15:10.915
  • It doesn't solve the problem in any permanent way,
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  • But we need our more houses.
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  • We need more houses that are affordable
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  • And that those are supply side, incentives.
  • 00:15:17.055 --> 00:15:19.591
  • So if we come up with some clever supply side incentives,
  • 00:15:19.591 --> 00:15:22.827
  • Sign me up. that's what the housing market really needs.
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  • Well, i've got one last question.
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  • Taxes are going down for some people this year.
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  • But at the same time, personal credit card
  • 00:15:31.436 --> 00:15:33.371
  • Debt has reached a record $1.2 trillion.
  • 00:15:33.371 --> 00:15:37.709
  • That translates into around $6,500 for each card holder.
  • 00:15:37.709 --> 00:15:41.379
  • Plus interest of over 20%
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  • Is just just part of the american dream,
  • 00:15:44.082 --> 00:15:46.317
  • Or is that going to eventually backfire?
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  • I'm worried about this.
  • 00:15:49.788 --> 00:15:50.855
  • There's some, weak points in the economy.
  • 00:15:50.855 --> 00:15:52.757
  • Nothing's ever perfect.
  • 00:15:52.757 --> 00:15:53.958
  • And and this is one of them.
  • 00:15:53.958 --> 00:15:56.361
  • As 2025 progressed, we saw inflation
  • 00:15:56.361 --> 00:16:00.165
  • Come down somewhat to 2.7%, start of the year at at three.
  • 00:16:00.165 --> 00:16:04.836
  • And then, wage growth, also started to falter.
  • 00:16:04.836 --> 00:16:09.174
  • It's now still faster than prices.
  • 00:16:09.174 --> 00:16:11.142
  • So people's real wages are going up.
  • 00:16:11.142 --> 00:16:13.511
  • But it wasn't the same as it was at the beginning of the year.
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  • And i think that's been
  • 00:16:15.447 --> 00:16:16.414
  • The source of discontent and affordability
  • 00:16:16.414 --> 00:16:19.250
  • In some of the polling.
  • 00:16:19.250 --> 00:16:20.518
  • And that's what drives the use of credit cards.
  • 00:16:20.518 --> 00:16:22.587
  • So i think, let's get the labor market wrapped up,
  • 00:16:22.587 --> 00:16:25.857
  • Get some more hiring, some faster wage growth.
  • 00:16:25.857 --> 00:16:28.359
  • This problem will solve itself.
  • 00:16:28.359 --> 00:16:30.128
  • Well, doug, you know,
  • 00:16:30.128 --> 00:16:31.329
  • I know for some people, credit cards are an emergency fund.
  • 00:16:31.329 --> 00:16:33.765
  • You know, in case of emergency, break the glass.
  • 00:16:33.765 --> 00:16:36.534
  • But for others of us, i think they're indicative of,
  • 00:16:36.534 --> 00:16:39.370
  • We're addicted to spending.
  • 00:16:39.370 --> 00:16:41.406
  • So i'm not sure if it's a policy
  • 00:16:41.406 --> 00:16:42.807
  • Problem or a personal behavior problem.
  • 00:16:42.807 --> 00:16:44.876
  • You're the policy expert. do you have an opinion?
  • 00:16:44.876 --> 00:16:47.645
  • Well, i
  • 00:16:47.879 --> 00:16:48.980
  • Don't see any reason why we should subsidize that.
  • 00:16:48.980 --> 00:16:51.316
  • That credit.
  • 00:16:51.316 --> 00:16:52.317
  • And so it's not tax deductible anymore.
  • 00:16:52.317 --> 00:16:54.119
  • I think that's good.
  • 00:16:54.119 --> 00:16:55.520
  • Because, you know,
  • 00:16:55.520 --> 00:16:56.788
  • It is true that americans, by and large, don't save enough.
  • 00:16:56.788 --> 00:16:59.324
  • I think that's been true for decades.
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  • More incentives to save, are
  • 00:17:01.793 --> 00:17:04.329
  • Clearly, in order, incentives to spend.
  • 00:17:04.329 --> 00:17:07.765
  • We don't need to worry about that.
  • 00:17:07.765 --> 00:17:08.833
  • The american household has always been able to spend.
  • 00:17:08.833 --> 00:17:11.970
  • Well, i'm in nashville with dave ramsey.
  • 00:17:11.970 --> 00:17:13.638
  • When credit cards come up, i know his answer.
  • 00:17:13.638 --> 00:17:16.941
  • Yeah, i bet you do.
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  • Thank you for your time today, doug.
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  • I hope you stay in touch so we can have you back.
  • 00:17:20.845 --> 00:17:23.214
  • My pleasure.
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  • There's lots of fresh ideas in the inbox.
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  • To send us your thoughts and your questions.
  • 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:43.235
  • And your emails are always, highlight of the program.
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  • Mary on youtube asks why isn't there a federal law
  • 00:17:46.972 --> 00:17:50.209
  • Against sanctuary cities?
  • 00:17:50.209 --> 00:17:52.077
  • Why are these mayors being arrested for aiding
  • 00:17:52.077 --> 00:17:54.380
  • And abetting criminals, as well as obstruction and related?
  • 00:17:54.380 --> 00:17:57.850
  • Dixie, from salem, oregon, responded,
  • 00:17:57.850 --> 00:17:59.985
  • I live in a sanctuary state.
  • 00:17:59.985 --> 00:18:01.787
  • Portland is full of crime and illegal alien criminals, yet
  • 00:18:01.787 --> 00:18:04.723
  • Our governor is fighting to keep them in our state.
  • 00:18:04.723 --> 00:18:07.193
  • What kind of world am i living in?
  • 00:18:07.193 --> 00:18:09.895
  • I think technically, dixie, we call it a lawless one.
  • 00:18:09.895 --> 00:18:13.465
  • We have laws on the books.
  • 00:18:13.465 --> 00:18:14.567
  • They're ignoring them,
  • 00:18:14.567 --> 00:18:16.368
  • And there is no will at any level of our system
  • 00:18:16.368 --> 00:18:20.206
  • To hold them accountable for that.
  • 00:18:20.206 --> 00:18:21.440
  • And in fact, we've been celebrating
  • 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:23.008
  • Those sanctuary cities as bastions
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  • Of hospitality, of mercy, of grace.
  • 00:18:26.078 --> 00:18:29.481
  • And tragically, christian leaders
  • 00:18:29.481 --> 00:18:31.750
  • Have been encouraging illegal activity.
  • 00:18:31.750 --> 00:18:34.954
  • I pray we're beginning to wake up.
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  • Lawlessness will bring destruction to all of us,
  • 00:18:36.855 --> 00:18:39.892
  • Debbie from tennessee wrote in i think president trump
  • 00:18:40.926 --> 00:18:44.129
  • Should put herminia rodriguez below on his staff.
  • 00:18:44.129 --> 00:18:47.666
  • Thank you for all you and your team are doing.
  • 00:18:47.666 --> 00:18:50.135
  • God is doing a new thing.
  • 00:18:50.135 --> 00:18:51.837
  • Well,
  • 00:18:51.837 --> 00:18:52.404
  • She certainly brought a
  • 00:18:52.404 --> 00:18:53.973
  • Clear perspective and a lot of passion
  • 00:18:53.973 --> 00:18:56.508
  • To what's happening in venezuela.
  • 00:18:56.508 --> 00:18:58.477
  • I hope you're praying that the process will be completed,
  • 00:18:58.477 --> 00:19:02.047
  • That we won't stop with the half measure
  • 00:19:02.047 --> 00:19:03.716
  • And leave the communists
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  • In charge threatening and intimidating the people.
  • 00:19:04.984 --> 00:19:09.121
  • We're ron from booneville, mississippi, commented in 1966,
  • 00:19:09.121 --> 00:19:13.826
  • I was at thule air base in greenland.
  • 00:19:13.826 --> 00:19:15.661
  • It's now known as space base.
  • 00:19:15.661 --> 00:19:18.864
  • It was not unusual
  • 00:19:18.864 --> 00:19:19.999
  • To look up to the sky and see jet aircraft contrails.
  • 00:19:19.999 --> 00:19:23.736
  • They weren't american, but from the old ussr spying
  • 00:19:23.736 --> 00:19:26.805
  • That on the united states air force operations.
  • 00:19:26.805 --> 00:19:30.075
  • Greenland was crucial to our defenses then,
  • 00:19:30.075 --> 00:19:32.378
  • And it's even more crucial to our defenses now
  • 00:19:32.378 --> 00:19:35.414
  • With the certifiable nutcase putin heading up russia.
  • 00:19:35.414 --> 00:19:38.784
  • Link him to china, north korea and iran.
  • 00:19:38.784 --> 00:19:41.320
  • That's why greenland.
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  • Ryan, you're making a good case.
  • 00:19:43.155 --> 00:19:45.024
  • I'm amazed, honestly, at the courage of president trump.
  • 00:19:45.024 --> 00:19:48.294
  • You could ignore greenland, not mention it,
  • 00:19:48.294 --> 00:19:50.296
  • And there wouldn't be much criticism.
  • 00:19:50.296 --> 00:19:52.264
  • But he is engage the discussion for
  • 00:19:52.264 --> 00:19:54.500
  • What's the in the best interest of the united states
  • 00:19:54.500 --> 00:19:57.536
  • And our allies, both nato and the eu.
  • 00:19:57.536 --> 00:20:01.040
  • I pray that they have the courage
  • 00:20:01.040 --> 00:20:02.908
  • To come to the table and negotiate.
  • 00:20:02.908 --> 00:20:04.943
  • And i thank god for president trump and his determination.
  • 00:20:04.943 --> 00:20:07.980
  • Finally, jay bars in california.
  • 00:20:08.614 --> 00:20:10.149
  • What's your opinion regarding the pro-palestinian people
  • 00:20:10.149 --> 00:20:13.585
  • Who are absolutely silent about what's going on in iran?
  • 00:20:13.585 --> 00:20:17.022
  • In short, they're hypocrites.
  • 00:20:17.022 --> 00:20:20.159
  • It's awkward to say, but it's our truth.
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  • Thank you for spending a few minutes with us.
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  • I'm alan jackson, and you have a wonderful evening.
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